#Kirby RtDL Deluxe Leaks/Datamines
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The only one that had sequels is Dark Matter trilogy
and the rest are... very vague that we don't know lol
They have been so far, even before Kirby became a more lore oriented franchise MK and dedede would consistently improve from their last appearance, either becoming stronger with new/strengthened moves or becoming a better person (in dededes case)
But at least since the reboot with RTDL
A timeline does not exist
there are implied events because they don't wanna reintroduce everything every time
I donāt see them ever using a past character and reverting them to their old ways unless itās SA making dedede pull an old dedede move bc heās corrupted
but the implied events are usually just "the main 4 characters are friends"
Ermmmm technically bobobot follows up triple be luxe 
does it
In non canon Meta Knightmare Returns?
meta knightmare is a confirmed what if scenario so the clone exists we just never see it in the main timeline
itās really not
they told use itās a what-if so it couldāve happened it just didnāt
Oh wait the dedede clone mentions him being scared of a certain insect (spiders)
I mean, that's an easy answer
what if are just easy to say
Itās the same reason Galacta knight is technically ācanonā but has yet to make a canonical debut
that said if Dedede Clone is scared of spiders
yeah I forgot abt the dedede clone thing lol
then I guess it is implied it is happening after Triple Deluxe
Is the Dedede Clone info a pause menu thing?
or a Miiverse thing?
ok so if it's pause menu then I'll say there's a bit of hint in there
...for once.
miiverse shit sometimes gets on my nerves bc itās usually cool info but itās so fucking hard to find nowadays
because I think Planet Robobot has one of the worst storytelling lol
especially after Miiverse
True
Some games can't be before others that's true
but the thing is
each game are handled differently with different directors
I like planet robobots story but yeah they did rely on miiverse for lore way too much
that was a little annoying
Genuinely don't even know where to place Flagship era ina hypothetical timeline
āEvery game chronologically takes place after the last oneā my beloved
all lore since RTDL are mostly sprinkles
Squeak Squads story is out of place
most of the additional lore given by other games
It feels out of place anyway
are just sprinkles adding more context
how so? Iām curious bc squeak squad is the game I know the least about in general
some of it were Miiverse story content
The Halberd under the sea
If we're going gradual why does Kirby suddenly not trust Dedede?
because the director considered Dedede as a bad person by default
Squeak Squad Could honestly be anywhere imo
Squeak Squad's story is... not great
The only thing directly there after previous games is halberd
I GUESS you could try and say SS and SSU are the only games that are a little weird with where they take place, SSU could take place right before squeak squad (except for spring breeze) so that would explain why the ship is in orange ocean, and maybe why Kirby is salty towards dedede cuz revenge of the king just happened
But admittedly thatās a stretch and makes things a little annoying
I feel like ROTK would be after
Since it's the finale to any animosity between the two
thatās true
so SSU except spring breeze (which happens way before) and ROTK (which happens after) takes place before squeak squad
SSU is certainly the one game where the Kirby and Dedede rivalry sorta came to a conclusion
The main story modes and mkr could just be spread in random places
and then Kirby Fighters exists lol
at least we know definitively fighters isnāt canon
Ngl I like the idea of Mass Attack being right before Rtdl
they do def care if things make sense
and Kirby Mass Attack exists
they care but not THAT much to make a timeline
omg thatās cute
Kirby grabs the cake and Dedede gives chase
they just follow the flow that they have
yeah but its also because kirby kinda doesnt need one
they might just be waiting, the zelda series definitely cares but took super long to actually make a coherent timeline
tell that to the people here lol
kirby games are great cuz they pretty much follow each other in chronological order of release
I'm not one to take a timeline seriously lol
thats the timeline
The only thing Kirby needs a timeline for...is ROMK...because there's no way ROMK occurs before Adventure logically
thas what I been saying 
well, fine
But what is Meta Knight getting revenge for?
super star is only exception but i think it makes sense that its the first game chronologically (or well, around dream land 1)
because of spring breeze
That name is badass but makes little sense
Revenge is made up.
I guess it is pretty much release order
also its from when franchise was still developing
I just kinda don't care that much about it lol
and like, star allies in itself confirmed "timeline" kinda. every other game that came before it, happened before star allies so
Super stars specific games are all over the place but besides that I think everything else is chronological
FL can't just barge in before RTDL
Isn't it wild that they had non canon modes as early as super star? They took a really bold direction with romk 
I kinda like the lore but that's about it
oh definitely
its just a lot simpler this way
timeline discussions with kirby exist at all cuz of remakes
which is why HAL is very careful about this sort of thing usually
Chronological over who cares how many years works
Meta knight mode existed in nightmare in dreamland but it was so basic it even had MK fighting MKā¦so yeah the actual canonicity of these modes didnāt become a thing until SSU, I love the Kirby franchise and itās unique storytelling
RTDX will def just act as definitive replacement to og RTDL in the """timeline"""
so you can play it instead if you were to play in chronological order and you wouldn't be weirded out
Aw man they uncanonised the lack of fish in Onion Ocean
It was such a cool detail in the original!
in a few weeks RTDX will probably be my go-to first kirby game recommendation lowkey
Iāll probably stick with SSU but yeah RTDX is definitely another good one, especially since its easier for people to get a hold of compared to SSU
thing with ssu
is that unless you emulate it theres no freaking way to get it legally in a way that is not absurdly expensive
yeah lol
and most nintendo fans are adamantly against emulation for some reason
so its just easier to say "go play rtdl dx"
luckily itās easy to emulate but a lot of people (including this servers rules) donāt like emulation, so RTDX is a good legal alternative for first kirby game
The dickest of riders
oh ok good
Emulation is fine to discuss you just cannot talk about where to get roms
Bc that's against discord tos
It doesn't really matter if you emulate ds games
I donāt think itās aged that much
rtdx will give better idea and better first impression of the franchise
its not that much but its still janky
not AS janky as snes version but snes version is just peak jank
Consider the alternative is giving absurd amounts of money to some shmuck who wasn't involved in making the game and just sells retro games for absurd amounts of money
id say ssu is solid second game recommendation
I like SSU because itās a good introduction to what makes kirby unique compared to other franchises, what with its sub-game and it being the first game to have what-if scenario extra modes
you get into the 2d side of things via rtdl and then ssu is like "origin" story for the gang
cuz you see how kirby met everyone for the first time and their personalities first developed
yeah thats just sucks
i hate that culture
both games also having lying piece of shit round guys
its scummy as hell
Oh that's a good point
rtdl is also better introduction in a way is that it more clearly establishes current status quo
ssu might give wrong expectations with how certain characters act (especially meta knight)
āScrunkly with floating arms is introduced but then your perception of them is flipped at the end of the gameā
"Wtf why is meta knight and dedede with us aren't they the bad g-"
I remember being baffled when I first heard in 2011 that Kirby was teaming up with Dedede and some Waddle Dee
I love how Sakurai made sure no one playing smash bros brawl thought dedede was a bad guy by making him the savior of the whole run in subspace
Rbay did irreversible damage to society
its so funny to go back to some of the replies around that time
irreversible awesome
Honestly if I was some super chess master mind and I got bested by a penguin and a hedgehog I'd rage quit
Nah
we got texas dedede
Did the gang even have that many friendly interactions when RtDL first came out
honestly cant entirely blame rbay cause 3 ds games had him as a major boss
(it was better than 64.)
sqsq, ssu, and massive attack
Sakurai has a totally different voice approach comapred to kuma...at least he eventually did
The demon dedede voice
BASED
Nsmb wii lmao
Most of Dedede's were neutral (adventure was positive), and meta knight actually WAS friendly in the anime (presumably because he was playable in NIDL) but was again neutral
MK was pretty friendly in EY too
Meta Knight was probably playable because of the anime
i meant before the anime
He gives you invincible candy
then again he also sics the meta-knights at you multiple times
Not in NiDL btw
Every other appearances was Adventure where he fights you or throws his friends at yku, romk and 2 puzzle stack games
Just adventure
Soulless
smh people flooded from after rtdx first announcement and distract me from funny 11 year old comments >:((((
that's how the law works
Click newest first and scroll mindlessly until you hit the bottom
gonna be honest the smash interpretation of all the kirby characters voices has always been my fave, Iām a bit of a sucker for MKs accent
Itās insane imagining MKās smash voice without the mask though
Brawl Dedede is my favourite Dedede voice overall
Imagine Kirby having a deep voice like that
Kinda wish subspace had dialogue
he cant be cute and also have a deep voice? 
now this is a based dude
I don't think pantomiming works as well when half the cast can actually talk
me when i saw the waddle dee and said "oh hey hes from revenge of the king"
nah he's cringe (half joking)
adeleine could've been used instead of BWD in the 3ds duology
Ahead of his time that Simon guy
i dont think i questioned why dedede and kirby were friends i dont think kid me cared
how do we tell him
i only cared about DARK MATTER
But you can!
If anyone replaced Ado it was Meta Knight
In the arena
They just calling him waddle dee thatās funny
thats how he was called
he was called "waddle dee" in both rtdl and ssu
"bandana waddle dee" started with triple deluxe
Whoah wait really
He is the original
Waddle Dee
yea
noone wants to say bandana waddle dee
Yup
Bandee for the win
Bandana Waddle Dee was never in RtDL???
Correct. It's a mouthful
It took me a while to truly appreciate bdee if I'm being honest
now these are funny comments i came for
I didn't think much of him at first
i think its so funny how even kumazaki came up with the name Bandee like the fandom and just decided not to use it for imo a dumb reason LMAO
Lmao
Literally me
"ermmm hes supposed to represent the waddle dees HE IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL" ok kumazaki
Honestly playing as bowser or ganon in a mainline mario/zelda game sounds great
that just shows you are weak, i for one have no issues foreseeing dark blue Kirby speaking with a deep Spanish accent
Also btw this should probably be posted in the main chat
oh yeah
oh yeah
Yeah lets talk about rtdx leaks ans rumors
Side discussion can be relevant sometimes but this should still be used primarily for spoiler talk š
this is the worst edit I've ever made within 5 minutes
My food is spoiled
i LOVE LEAKS qwhen my pipes are leaky i DO NOT call the plumber
magolor beyond the magoverse
I hope that HAL has the localisation team by the throat again so we can get mostly accurate translations of all the text
i wish we had at least one screenshot of us speaking to magolor so we could get an idea if script will be updated or not
Technically, If weāre strictly speaking, today we technically got an overview trailer that featured RtDL dx
me when they completely change his personality (he is now cardboard)
jesus christ cereza and the lost demon i forgot abou that
Youāre not wrong
after bayonetta 3 i fear for my mental stability
that game better be good
all this crazy kirby hype made me forget another bayonetta is also coming out
Im not into bayo but that game has banger art style so im kinda interested
it looks great but EUGTH 3's story WAAAAAUGH
I heard ending sucked
and this one seems to be following up on it so i can only hope it makes it feel a little better
honestly the whole plot sucked but the ending being so crazy didnt help
it could have been a GREAT ending but the rest of the plot did not do the heavy lifting lmao
Still never taking back my canon that the forgor portal only sucked up dreamland and the rest of Popstar was left untouched
kinda share that sentiment
mostly cause the idea that Elfilis knew about dreamland and the workaholic waddle dees from the ancients fits in super well and answers the few questions i had
this new rtdx trailer was sick
And as for āoh but why are enemies from like the other side of the planet like iceberg thereā these guys likely exist in dreamland too, Popstar is a planet of limitless possibilities
I expected Dream Land to be the postgame, where some evil force would have taken power while kirby was away
But Forgo Dreams was way better
corori when the people from the new world brought it over to their world because it is cute
Triple deluxe moment
TRUE
This but Magolor when you beat ||magolor epilogue||
Im honestly glad they didn't do dream land in FL
Dream land deserves banger transition to 3d with full attention being given to it
The backgrounds of RtDX make me wanna just jump into the 3rd dimension so baaad
i don't really care about fps but do we know that if RTDLDX runs at 60fps
this is how i feel but with the possibility ||hades|| for this mode lol
like ||magolor post game that takes place back during RTDL would be pretty cool for it and id be happy but i cant help but want it to get its own fleshed out world in a full game||
||what is hades in this context||
looks like it's clearly 60 fps from currently all available footage
nice
||place where el funny red butterfly comes from||
ahhhh ok
common theory is that ||magolor epilouge takes place there|| but im a CONTRARIAN!!!!!!!!
and by that i mean with the current information we have about ||magolor being lost|| from way before this and the funny morpho novel im leaning on it not taking place there
only thing shaking my belief is literally ||demon fatty puffer||
thats the one thing and its pretty funny all things considered
hmmmā¦
it would be him and it should be i wouldnt have it any other way
||Tbh I'm also a bit concerned how ppl are gonna react if it turns out it's not hades lmao||
IMO that could just be retconned ||like they retconned his fate||
beast virus 
Itād be cool if itās ||hades||, but amp has a good point. Iād rather an area as impactful as that be explored in its own title
||retconned Magolors fate? Whar||
||mf never died||
id be mildly annoyed
||Eh, I don't think 'exploring Hades' is the kind of thing that would make for a good main story event||
cause then whats the point of what they told us before
i would be ANGRY at kumazaki i would burn my cartridge and my 4 kibley plushes
I would call him smelly
||Like if you asked me a month ago what I thought about seeing hades in a game instead of just spinoff I would've said I'd never expect it to happen b/c the way Kirby games work doesn't really lend well to the context of exploring a location like that but an extra mode exploring it works||
nothing but ash left behind in my retcon induced fury
||YES, HE DID||
||I mean Hades is lightly implied to be connected with AD though so
||
its the postgame tho
way i see it they could just make it like the new world where it has a bunch of varied locations and its just gloomy grass field
||Aināt no way bludd died it was obvious even when RTDL released mf survived the encounter||
||Yea that's what I was saying, that I don't think exploring Hades would make for a good main story mode, in response to the statement "I'd rather explore hades in its own game than in an extra mode"||
no it wasnt
||the starcutter was sentient + he was NOWHERE to be seen||
||as of now i just interpret this as its as connected with AD as every other dimension (they all use it for traveling between eachother)||
since basically everything we know about it is from a guy who needs to travel
and that dude has to take the same road as everyone else no vip treatment
||I mean there's also the fact that SA calls the HiAD Dimensions ē°ē ig||
||this + the dedede drum dash minigame in TD was confirmed in a miiverse posts to be the work of magolor, so yeah youāre right it wasnāt obvious in RTDL but itās clear they always intended him to have survived, since heās confirmed to be alive in literally the next game, so nothing was retconned as far as Iām aware. Thereās even another miiverse post thatās unrelated to dream collection heavily implying magolor had survived if you wanna try and say dream collection isnāt canon||
it just wasnāt clear, but nothing was retconned
same deal for marx as far as Iām aware(?)
||I mean no one's arguing that Magolor's being rewritten to be dead in the series, the only claim being made here is that having a mode where he has to fight his way out of the underworld to have survived RtDL would be a retcon||
||If it was shown or implied that they died but then revealed in a LATER WORK they survived it seems like a retcon.|||
yeah fair point
||SSU showed him as dying and Marx Soul was a zombie form.||
whooooooo knoowsss (maybe they should put it here just the clarify)
ill take that honestly
||It was left ambiguous in RTDL it was never confirmed or denied š thus it wasnāt retconned, it was just made clear||
since i mean if this is the case, it could still work without retconning his death
dammit said i mean
plus the wrecked AD in the ending looks NOTHING like this new place
||since crown connected to Void, Jamba heart connected to Void, heart made those dimensions, crown makes this one||
good enough for me
Crown might've been used AGAINST void not by it
||similarly to magalor weāre never actually told if marx survived or not since the true arena fight against marx soul is completely non-canonical, just like magolor souls fight. Some of Magolors dialogue in RTDL seems to hint at marx surviving, but thatās never been confirmed. And him being a dream friend could be confirmation but we still donāt know the canonicity of dream friends||
big shrug
it does share some properties with him so i think it probably was made using his power
like how it changes effects and appearance based on the will of the user
||The marx soul battle being non canon doesn't mean marx dying wasn't canon.||
That development art of Morpho knights sword having a hilt that looks a lot like the crown still fucks me up bruh
too bad the SA thing is region locked info lmaoooooooooo
language locked is a better term
yeah it doesnāt but again weāre never given confirmation, currently thereās more pointing at marx surviving then him dying so thatās the one I go with
also yeah the crown sword this is weird
but it didnt make it soooo i guess we'll have to see whatever that was supposed to be for in another way
since the design was unused Iām guessing whatever concept they had related to it was scrapped but I rlly wanna know what that concept was
ehh the eye reminded me of ||Dharkon|| from smash ultimate more than the crown
whyād you spoiler dharkons name lol
WOL spoiler SMHHH

Dharkon definitely has Kirby final boss energy
so yeah actually i can see an argument for ||hades|| with the japanese name for the SA dimensions and the Void connections between the crown and the jamba heart
just wish that wasn't japanese exclusive info if thats what they go with
At least it was info you couldāve inferred from one language and not information youād only know from miiverse posts lol
tbh they'd probably change it over here no matter what lmfao
mfs who never got to read the miiverse posts pondering why the mirror randomly shows up in dedede tour for no reason
miiiiverrssee
I hope stuff like the figures (aka collectibles with descriptions) come back in later titles cuz thatās a way better way of putting in lore then miiverse/social media posting
me when i have to pause in the middle of a boss fight
im used to pause screens but ill admit figures were way better
pause screens are cool but yeah figures make it way easier to have all the lore at once
more info in a better place
also the figures look cool
Idc if theyāre ākeychainsā or āstickersā or āfigurinesā just whatever callback collectible they decide to have should have descriptions
next one is gonna be crayon drawings based off of the ones from robobot but even more
Figures are way better but one thing I question is why they didn't make the boss's figure an award for beating the respective boss
Instead of having them also be random pulls
yeah collecting them couldāve been handled way better
Cause like one big thing I noticed was like
People like
Playing the postgame and finally getting tropic woods' figure and not giving a shit at that point
the one thing I do like is that they give you an option to buy them instead of having to scour every stage for them
Its like one step progression with being able to look at the description at your leisure without having to go find the boss again to see it or having to interrupt the action the first time you experience a boss and then one step back in that you literally can't see the description when it's relevant now
Give me the tropic woods figure as a reward for beating tropic woods
Come on
thatās a stoopid oversight and I hate it
I hope they'll have a bestiary of some kind in Dx
There's no way they'll remove pause descriptions in the remake even if they did add it probably so that would automatically solve the problem if they did add a way to look back on boss pause descs somewhere else
magolors tome tracker grinding!!!!!!!!
i would find it so funny if thats just some unrevealed feature for tome trackers
if tome tracker is where all the lore is relocated to I will eat a shoe
It's not expensive lol
Like it USED to be expensive before
congratulations you got your eighth lor star cutter book!!!!!!!!!
im sure we'll get mask descriptions at least so thats nice
we definitely still live in pause screen world
The 180 is completely factory sealed btw thats why its like tha
I believe I got my copy used at a GameStop
||I cry and piss||
||maybe Iām coping but it definitely feels like Morpho will appear in some capacity in the magolor mode, theyāve kinda been going hard on him the past few games||
||even if itās not magolor exploring hades heāll probably rear his butterfly ass into the end game boss slot||
||Ill be IRRATIONALLY ANGRY if he shows up and not galacta||
||hes already in the original PLEASE let him finally do something cool man š ||
||it would be funny if Morpho shows up and not Galacta lmao||
||Morpho cucking poor Galacta every chance he gets||
it will be really fun but i will cry
||i love the guy but pleaaaaaaase he just got a canon appearance throw galacta a bone||
||imagine Galacta shows up, the butterfly flutters down and Galacta slices it in two||
||ānot againā Galacta softly whispers||
I still think gk is bound to show up if only bc he was in the base game anyways
The question is whether they do more with him, and if so how
yeah good point, why would ||Galacta fight magolor?||
No way wtf they gave hololive RtDL DX 2 months ago?
whar
[Another Dimension]
my thought is because ||Mags is trapped in AD and trying to escape with his regained powers, and Galacta wants to seize the opportunity to escape AD as well||
||Why would Galacta not show up if Morpho does lol||
||Like Galacta is like 34% of Morpho's entire identity||
but maybe the reason he fights Mags ||is cause he feels the scary master crown residue on him and it reminds him of Termina||
||Galacta is a funny battle junkie he doesn't need a reason to fight anyone tbh||
||Meanwhile we literally did not receive an explanation for why Morpho Knight fights the player in guest star nor forgo dreams so like||
||who are we kidding? If Galacta shows up heāll just throw hands with no explanation like he always does||
true
yeah good point
at the very least he gets to show up canonically lol
Morpho has even less of a reason to throw hands then Galacta
hopefully they like, actually do a little something with him
oh yeah and morpho has noone to eat. well galacta, again. but in canon. which will make me destroy hal labs
The lore is that kirby keeps touching the pop flowers morpho wants to rest on so he's settling his beef with kirby by absorbing powerful dudes to beat the shit out of him
true as fuck
heās beating up the dream friends too, cuz why not?
||I kinda hope Galacta is the one that gets a new fight and not Morpho for the singular fact thatā¦||
||galactas theme is way better||
||im sorry but Morphos battle theme kinda sucks lol itās one of the more disappointing kirby boss themes||
||GK's theme has been over-remixed for me
And I'm not even tired of CROWNED||
||id rather have something over-remixed then the boring theme that is Morphos||
||galactas first appearance since they hinted him being a hero of yore and his first appearance in canon he better get a bombastic fight||
||mfs when gk uses time border Great slash flash and morpho appears in the laser||

That's your morpho appearance
||I pray to the heavens Galacta gets a playable mode someday and he gets to beat the fuck out of Morpho, sweet sweet revenge for getting blue balled by a fucking butterfly||
||Morpho when he summons his hell beasts and one of them is GK who cuts him in half for summoning him
Galacta when he screams after you defeat him and a butterfly comes to eat him
(You are trapped in an infinite loop of knight fights)||
so true
||we should make a kirby rpg maker game about Morpho and Galacta knight meeting eachother at a bar and inevitably embarking on a quirky quest after a series of strange circumstances||
also are we going to talk about how GK did not make a peep when he showed up in sa
mf just accepted fate
internal screaming
blud had nothing to say
Galacta knight therapy session
the butterfly was actually galactas therapy animal, they were having a nice chat while the helpers fought Morpho
Same goes for forgo btw
Sequel to my shitpost rpg maker game already !???
you know what i should commend Star Allies for giving Galacta the slightest bit of characterization in that he is suffering from having to fight an endless battle in his imprisonment
well i would if it was in the game.
interview moment
still something
rtdx make it all worth it please
makes me wonder if Galacta is evil or not
What would he do if he wasnāt imprisoned anymore
Who knows. clearly somethings wrong cause he was once a hero but now hes known for destroying planets lmao
Top 10 questions for rtdx to tackle
What went wrong
Yeah, GK seems to be not well in the head, given how he lashes out and destroys everything in sight
You know
||I wonder if this mode will have a Bad Ending like in HiAD||
maybe, ||if they tie it to how much power Magolor has regained||
|| https://youtu.be/kRK-xj8Rhxs || welp wrap it up gg its over we've been duped
can't believe our Canadian friends lied to us
fucking canada
its probably a meme video
opens with liking magolor makes you a furry
i doubt they are serious
š¤
or is the guy just being a dick
well actually
but seriously what did he say
is it anything of substance
or no
hos argument for the render is that its clearly using the colors from his alt in fighters 2
and wait
erm what the deuce
It's nothing of substance. We know it's real.
didnt people go to stores and find LITERALLY the box irl
yes
Yes. Yes they did.
||I still wonder if the skill screen could mean a new take on non-linear progression
ala Amazing Mirror
I mean it's probably not that correlated but it would be a nice contrast from the past few modes just being Meta Knightmare Ultra-like speedruns||
that would be dope
actually all canadians are conspiring against us
to trick us into thinking this exists
I bet Frytoes is in on it tooā¦
I knew there was something sussy about him 
btw the video didnt account for irl verifications so its real
Don't scare me like that again
We really are on some smash shit
i posted it as a joke there is a 0.1% chance its fake
Reminds me when people thought Shulks leaked icon in the smash 4 menu was photoshopped little mac
listen im playing my cards so im only 99.99% an idiot if its fake
the reverse of the grinch leak
Tbf with that smash 3ds leak it was pretty in line with what could be faked
plus wario had a bad eye
Game and watch leaking into his box lmao
I don't remember how I felt about that one I think I was on the fence
I love that we just have eye witness proof now lmfao
more than we had for the grinch leak
Unless the Canadian government is trying to get back at everyone for calling them the leaf country it's real
Grinch leak was literally one Grinch render but we still don't even know how they had that render LMAO
I guess that was like the one real thing they had. Really random but hilarious in hindsight
It was using that to pass off fake renders
Sparkles and Champagne
You know this game is probably gonna break street date
leak that has been posted independently in multiple different qualities and uses completely unique and believable models: exists
Color blind YouTube content creators: CLEARLY fakeā¦
Not saying it is since I HEAVILY doubt it at this point but if the leak ends up being fake Iād cry lol
FL was only 3 days
Was it really only 3 days?
i feel like it was like, a week
i left the server when the game leaked
Like Brody said, it was several days before release
well, not exactly left but like
deleted any way i could access discord apps
and i was gone for at least an agonizing week until the game released and i could beat it
It was still not a full week lol
nvm it was like 3 days beforehand
i mean i still came back like 5 days later so i guess its like
a full weekday?
i remember i caved and looked at the leaks when i didn't plan on it
~~which didn't end up mattering because i never finished the game
~~
The games release date was March 25
Did you still talk to them after kindergarten
he moved away in 2nd grade and i never saw him again :(

I gotta tell myself not to look at this chat when the game breaks street date
I could mute it
i had no idea FL leaked
Fortunate
I remember seeing a leak just a few days before the game dropped, but i couldn't access the image itself so all i could do was read the comments
and it was all "like i know kirby is dark sometimes but what the actual heck is that" and "I suddenly see why this game got the fear rating"
so i was just sitting here wondering what the heck they saw
looking back it was probably fecto forgo
for me i read "WHAT IS THAT" "it's an alien parasite that ravaged the forgotten land years ago" but never saw the image as it was spoilered which somehow made the buildup to fecto blind ten times more unsettling with that vague knowledge i had
honestly thats what i love about this series
just how off the walls insane and dark the descriptions of characters can be
without context
also the first real image I saw for the game spoiler wise was fecto elfilis, so i though "dang elfilin rlly was a dubious little creature"
okay how the heck are they going to advertise magolor dying
"play as a corpse only in rtdl dx"
prob just gonna word it vaguely like the box art did
is kinda funny though lol
very dark
thats possible but imagine the direct announcer guy saying it
"Magolor is dead and he needs YOUR help!!"
reminds me of "You have 24 hours until the universe explodes" or whatever
in that chippy direct man voice
I LOVED THAT CLIP LMAO
TRUE
Shouldāve been called ||Magolor egg-pilogue||
"Attention all gamers! Magolor is trapped in the underworld, and he needs YOUR help to escape! In order to return to the living world, he needs a Master Crown and the keys to the Lor Starcutter. To help him, all you need to do is send him your credit card number, the three magic numbers on the back, and the expiration month and year. But you have to be quick, before Morpho Knight appears and morphs all over everyone!"
Underworld-Area hitting differemnt
kirby if we had sonic colors tier writing
the jp account teases the opening cutscene of the mode a day before release and the rest of the nintendo twitter accounts show the same video two days later
yeah thats fair
i think its going to be funny if somehow that back boxart blurb was somehow only on the canadian box
none of the other boxes spoil anything
That would be hilarious but improbable considering I don't think there's difference in cover layout between regions since SA at least
sometimes there is for other games
i mean i don't remember any in particular right now but i'm sure when i can back up my argument with evidence its gonna look way more convincing
well i was talking about kirby mainly
i think the last game that had major regional difference with the box cover is rtdl but its also the last game that had major alteration outside of japan to begin with
i am happy ||that he wont be silent||
but i wonder if he will like. monologue to himself sometimes or he will have someone to talk to
||still 10 years ago
dream collection||
actually , i wonder that in this way, this mode is like an experiment for HAL
to make a game mode where characters actually speak through out lol
ehhh
and not just in designated hub areas
well Forgo Dreams had them actively acknowledge the Isles happened
and Elfilin, even if little, did speak to point out whats the vibe
forgotten land did have mild dialogue on the world maps yeah
im talking about like. straight up during levels
huh
romk style
i straight up doubt that
i dont think thats happening either
maybe not
||kinda feels like a pace killer when its by the protagonist and you have to read it out in the middle of everything||
even if its just gonna be cutscenes still gonna be a major change though
||the shop on the other hand is basically a straight up uhh just a pause screen||
yeah ig
they can definitely do RoMK style nowadays, like Elfilin talking during world map is an example, and is an aspect i t hink more games should do imo tbqh
||at the very least its like
i could see him do some exposition during the start of the journey i guess||
Me when i want to make a game where the bastard protagonist has thoughts displayed on the bottom corner while they move around for their thoughts on the vibes of what/where they are
||i just have a hard time imagining a good justification of having him interupt the adventure to say something and doing that frequently||
yeah i hope they will lean into it more as time goes on
like RoMK works because its dialogue between multiple people
well this is why i was wondering if he were to have theoretically someone to talk to or he is completely alone
people were throwing around the idea of someone like ||papi acting as his guide|| so
So basically, pause screen lore 
||is papi like an inside joke on this server?||
no theyre a character from the novels
||Who are they?||
butterfly, blue, sort of contrast to Morpho Knight
OH ok
||Btw how many confirmed cases have there been of Magolorās Epilogue being on the back of the box art? Just out of curiousity||
||I think 2 right?||
||3||
||Oh where was the 3rd confirmation?||
||i think it was frytoes who confirmed it||
pretty hard to print out different fake covers to 3 diff boxes with some in different locations when the only public version of the cover is a photo
||true, thatās why Iām thinking itās real as well (unless HAL decides to flip the coin and get rid of the mode, final judgement
)||
||Tbh magolor epilogue would be too random of a thing to fake let alone the blood sweat and tears into making it as good as itād look if it were fake||
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||What really gets me thinking itās real are the renders and fonts, I mean I know they look a bit crusty but thatās just because of cameras not being able to capture all of the small text and images properly and thatās ok||
||so is the back cover fake or not?||
If the whole thing ended up being fake it'd be like
The most elaborate fake leak in history
The fake leaker putting fake boxes in specific GameStops to fool us:
ok but lets be real for a second
i love kirby. you love kirby
but who the fuck cares this much to make a leak this elaborate
its no smash bros
also this is a very weirdly specific thing to fake too, if it was a fake leak id rather expect something either less outrageous or more outrageous (like idfk, galacta knight mode)
who is the shit is making KIRBY leaks lmao
Box art is definitely real. Weāve seen more than one of them
Guys you WON'T believe what I found in my GameStop today. Susie Prologue in Robobot Deluxe is REAL
if only
i swear why do people keep asking if its real š©
Is it real?
The whole concept of ||Magolor goes to hell|| is really crazy it feels like a fanmade thing
ok but who cares about Kirby for anyone to come up withthe idea
why not go "NEW 3D MODE"
"NEW MODE: EXPLORE FORGOTTEN LAND IN 2D"
Magolor fans:
tbh tho its sounds like a kumazaki thing
exactly
he made fecto forgo cutscene
who else but HAL themselves
no one but Kirby fans or Kirby's devs really care about prompts like "oh he comes from hell"
and twiter/tumblr/dA kirby fans dont really count theyre like vocal minority
also this game confirms that is a hell in the kirby world
which means there is a heaven somewhere
Magolor meets Baldi, Doomslayer and Isabelle from Animal Crossing in the depths of hell 
and Sephiroth
like magolor fans would draw magolor with curly hair and fluffy locks and i honestly cant see them make something ||like a very good 3D render of Magolor with outlines with a unique model/design of having the ear popping out and the scarf replaced and used 4 times on back the cover||
end cutscene shows Magolor doing satanic rituals with Hyness

I wonder why the ||A in Magolor Epilogue's logo looks like D, is it to references Another Dimension||
||Oh yeah itās does a bit||
||well we don't know if it's actually a hell, could just be general afterlife||
thats just teh font
unfortunately unlike japanese, english dont really care about what a letter resembles like unless its stylistic not symbolic
||Lord Hyness begs to differ
||
||I don't think Hyness ever went to Yomi (or wherever it is)||
||Honestly, to tell you the truth, I just want to see Magolor and Hyness dancing to the āHyness: Unhoodedā theme
||
||that would be hilarious||
||goofy ahh dancing||

||MAGOLOR goes to hell for his crimes of fiendish proportions: the game, the extra mode, the movie||
sonic colors fans ignorring the Eggman PA announcements when making this assertion
The eggman PA announcement definitely do not save colors from having garbage tier writing
they are good though
my point was that the game is more mixed in terms of comedy than some give it credit for
and eggman on the PA is the reason for that
they're a really awesome environmental detail. very charming lol
If only they were louderā¦
i would give them more credit if i could actually hear them during gameplay
otherwise they might as well not exist with how bad audio mixing on those parts are
imo its a bit of a dammed if you do or dont thing because if the music was quieter then people would want to hear the music
and sonic games almost always have banger osts
that is not my point
im saying that even if this is a good part of that game's writing, it's all null because there is no proper way to experience it during game itself
so its not something that will actually leave an impression on me
based chuggaaconroy for playing them in the outro of his videos so you can hear them better
true
i remember sonic colors ultimate also added ending quips that sonic makes after defeating bosses
but again, audio mixing issues
sound effects are too loud
Welcome one and all to your out-of-this-world destination, Merry Magoland! Here youāll find a bevy of subgame-based attractions that up to four players can enjoy. So come on down and have a grand olā time in Kirbyās Return to Dream Land Deluxe, available February 24th only on Nintendo Switch!
logo confirmed
merry magoland logo cojnfiremd
leak real
leak real
NEW TRAILER AND STILL NO FUCKING LEAKED MODE LMFAO
OH MY GOD
but hey the logos there so yeah if SOMEHOW after all of this you still had doubts here we are
oh wait thats cool
wait i should go to the normal channel
||Magolor Epilogue|| fans looking at the Merry Magoland on the table
RIGHT?
what are they cooking.
what is missions
what is this remake cooking.
so like what are we getting another trailer next week LMFAO
option in Magoland
actually might even just be a ||magolor epilogue|| trailer sheeeesh
I can't believe they made a new trailer and didn't mention any of the things we wanted to know more about.
i mean they did explain how stamp rally works
and not gonna lie
i think i will spend a lot of time on this lol
hey at least this way we have pure proof the leak is real officially lol
true
i think it might be either overview trailer or overall post-game content trailer
Hmmmm now Iām wondering if the extra mode in the original RTDL will be in rtdld or if itāll be replaced by magoland and ||epilogue||
would be too spoilery regarding epilogue to dedicate wholeass trailer to it
true
i think it stays but will be heavily changed
itd be so weird for them not to announce it when its on the box
so i guess we're getting another trailer soon
it will be announced but for obvious reasons they cant get into much detail
so they probably will talk about other post-game content to boot
If it stays I feel like weāre gonna get three arenas, one for base game bosses, one for EX bosses, and one for ||demonic bosses, if that epilogue image is anything to go by||
maybe this is where they will finally address missions
yeah def
seems like at this point three arenas seems to become a standard lol
Not that I mind I love me some arenas
especially since FL made its arenas canon, I adored that
yeah i dont mind it either
I canāt wait to see the name theyāre gonna give the ||third arena lol||
I was already caring since I was wanting to replay the game to begin with lol
Mfw I go into a leak channel expecting everything to be stuff I already knew but finding out about a whole new game mode
but yeah this leak gave me some of the info I really wanted beforehand
honestly this trailer just confirms a few things
first of all
missions are not related to subgames
otherwise they would be mentioned in this trailer
Im not counting this as a spoiler tho
second of all
MAGOLOR BACKSTORY
sussy that those collectibles are still not discussed
Thats so hype
third of all, probably getting post-game content trailer next week
in time for the Direct
but finally some communication
they dont need to waste time on magoland now
god
what collectables again?
finally marketing is stepping up
weird tickets
that are on some of the levels
we caught the glimpse of them on jp footage of hi jump ability on the site
they are not even remotely addressed
me patiently awaiting the no damage boss missions
those will be very fun
Any confirmed info about the magolor's epilogue mode?
nope x3
nothing yet still no announcement
Sad
They will most likely release it soon lol
im guessing theyre saving that reveal for a direct
working theory is magolor gets sent to hell for his crimes against blorb-kind
I think so
Have to buy this game for that mode probably lol
my prediction on how presumed direct trailer will work
it will reveal stuff in gradual order of being exciting
Tears of the Kingdom probably being close at the end
direct opens up with magalor talking about his carnival bussines going down the sales
missions > whatever revamp of extra mode they got > magolor epilogue
in this order
probs
Imma preorder with the voucher
Such convenient timing
But do they really want to spoil the story?
they wont spoil anything
they need to open with TOTK just rip the bandaid off eveeryone is watching it for that probably
they will be as vague as hell
also
its literally on the back of the box so its 100% being revealed in the next trailer
i think for the epilogue they'll probably mention how it works but not what is happening. like lean into the "why is he here??? whats going on???"
yeah, they have to reveal it before release at least lol
Direct opens with magolor about to die to the god of reality: dooter supreme before the scene pauses and magolor says āyup, thatās me. I bet youāre wondering how it all came to this. Well, let me tell youā¦it all started when my carnival business started to go southā¦I tried escaping to the dream kingdom, but the IRS still found me.ā
yeah they will probably like
show it
give a few words about how gameplay works
but otherwise give no story context whatsoever
Just imagine if Nintendo didn't put the epilogue in the back box cover...
tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they did spoil stuff about main story lol
Like they still do have the epilogue but it is hidden
me when the 'Magician of Falsehoods'
I mean, they did show Kirby riding on Landia in the reveal trailer.
The game is like, what, almost 10 years old at this point??
true they might be a little loose about it
Discourse would've been dead until 10 minutes ago
true, though that was without context
iirc metaknightmare ultra was mentioned prior to SSUās release
id say its odd they put post-game spoilers in back of the cover considering FL had an post game extra mode and it wasnt even shown in trailers
idk about English one
Japanese one yeah though
it was in the English press release at least
Canāt remember about the box, but again small DS box
i think they will definitely go over all post-game content game has. the question is in just how much detail
but most stuff about postgame was vague if they were mentioned at all
Itās also new content
Gotta make it a selling point for those that have already played the original
No reason to make it secret
im praying for just a silhouette of galacta pretty please
i feel like this is gonna be an SA situation where if you beat magalor epilogue you get the
er arena
they have to be very particular when advertising the mode so it doesn't spoil the ending of the campaign (even if we all know it, they wanna appeal to people who haven't played the og lol)
probably not gonna reveal True Arena Deluxe or whatever lol
i wonder if itll be canon though
cause they'd probably have to replace magolor in magoland if they want story mode to be concurrent with truer arena and the new mode
true arena but magalor soul has a slight green shader and like 300x more health
and keeps makig attacks in the backgroubd
yeah some things will def remain secret
im assuming story mode is just going to be separate from ||magolor epilouge so they dont have to do any silly stuff with repalcing magolor||
Weenie hut jr (arena)
Super weenie hut jr (true arena)
Salty spittoon (hell arena)
i think revamp of ex mode, missions and ||magolor epilogue|| are locked in things what will be 100% discussed in the next trailer
anything else is something that is completely out of the box that we have no power of predicting lol
me when lor starcutter soul is revealed
actually magalor epilogue will kind of be heroes AD, like an mode you complete after the main game in which also has its own arena cause of the harder bosses
||actually yeah I wonder if theyāll try and make some way for magolor to fight the lor/landia bosses or if theyāll just replace them with something completely different. Iād imagine replacing landia with Galacta is how GL will show up?||
magolor is rather eccentric and dapper in his new getup
Salute the Flag
||Magolor in Magolor Epilogue when Galacta Knight/Aeon Hero's soul starts chasing him in Hadeshttps://youtu.be/fTzN7gkdRrk||
holy shit lmao
has anyone made a mod where GK just spawns in every room
||you know a mode where Magolor is weakened seems like the perfect place for a chase sequence. especially since he has that air dash move||
funny dream collection reference!!!!!!!!
Chase sequence... Would be raw
Especially if they bring back that gcn final boss guy
magolor wii is such a funny mod
||what if new challenge stages is like after the epilogue lol||
||Butterfly chase sequence||
GALACTA KNIGHT DELUXE
I try to not entertain that idea because it seems like too good to ve true at this point
Like it would be so much content we would be drowning in it
Oops meant to quote msp
You get the idea lol
if its like swarm itd be cool
just one id spam the spongebob gif every time someone mentions how cool it is
msp like mspaint!!!
Galacta knight will be revealed to BE Magolor; let me explain
Magolor is an egg
Galacta knight is a bird
At the end of the ||epilogue|| magolor will hatch and reveal Galacta knight inside
as in the gif where the town is chased by a singular butterfly not the rollercoaster
True!..
If they do add new challenge stages then this game can lowkey be best value out of any Kirby game on switch
Maybe ever
It's already getting close to that status but it will just make it definitive
I really want New Challenge Stages man
like u added everything
but u dont add Challenge Stages
And PAL fans lose again

Realistically i only really expect guest star 2 (or some other mode allowing co op characters to be p1) outside of ||epilogue||
They didn't add Scope Shot. 
We will always remember you, Scope Shot...
correct they removed it 
Mainly because they would have to update extra mode SOMEHOW so
everything else is perfectly cooked the extra mode is like a no bake cookie
no cooking simply couldnt cook it. its no bake after all
Original rtdl be like:
its pretty good but i could just have a real cookie
It wont even be the first time a remake added two extra modes, one of which continued the story while other was a speedrun mode of entire campaign
Super Star Ultra moment
Andā¦NiDL
Extra Game and Meta Knightmare lmaoooo
I would say that extra game is technically not new
But then i remembered that they added save feature
....so it kinda is lol
god if extra mode gets condensed and you can use any character its going to be peak peak peak peak peak remake
Yeah
FNaF lookin ass
Meta Knight jumpscare
Persona 5
You can't save!
so bent on practicing his swordplay he even shadow clone jitsuād a clone of himself so they could fight
"Meta Knight has set out to practice his swordplay"
Star Allies foreshadowing
they also did with MKU (though that one's far more reasonable) lol
overflowing with banger content im going to explode from content overload
Oh wait i didnt realize MKU had any synopsis lol
Pro literally destroyed his own ship
im not ready for new crazy lore FL came out less than a year ago
#kirby-kingdom message
(https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ykwj/games/index_h.html)
Go with Meta Knight DX [Meta Knightmare Ultra]
The protagonist is Meta Knight!
After being defeated by Kirby in "Meta Knight Strikes Back" ["Revenge of Meta Knight"],
Meta Knight is going on a journey of training to discipline himself again.
Nevertheless, it will be a wondrous journey, following Kirby's
previous adventures, one by one. What is waiting for Meta Knight
at the end of his journey...
on the website
your getting mago lore
Well Milky Way Wishes part having a story is also clear in-game ig
nova momemt ->
Wait guys........... Do you think hal is crazy enough to
If theoretical guest star 2 mode exists
Give each character separate pre rendered intro and ending cutscenes like they did with MKU lol
meta knight got bored so he beat up two birds, went into a cave and then destroyed his own ship
Wait hold up Meta Knightmare Ultra canon real??????

galacta knight please become canon
I mean it doesn't directly contradict anything
i love you
Yeah, the only really weird moment is the Halberd level lol
Galacta knight canonical appearance incoming
What do you mean Galacta Knight was in the main canon all along
But otherwise it works fine with the rest
Especially with Nova specifically being rebuilt
The Trailer was š
That said it means that he fucking died in his first appearance tho
lmfaooo
I guess that video trying to debunk the leak aged perfectly
mku when the canon is suspicious
Galacta knight just hot glued his body parts back together so he wouldnāt die
gamestop was the friends we made along the way
i just dont consider it canon cause its too much work
the fact i have to argue anything over it being canon is too much to make me want to
I mean it literally was unironically (because funny Nova explosion)
gamestop really gave the magolor lovers the food
Why is bro beating up his own soldiers in Halberd
"we just lowkey didn't expect that this Kumazaki guy will ever direct another Kirby game again after the first time he did it"
Meta Knight when he explains to Vul that he needs to destroy the newly rebuilt Halberd just to prove his discipline
Halberd Mondays be like
HELLO
Galacta knight Tuesday
the funny
Oh yeah what if Marx Soul Mask implies Marx Soul's canon too 
mfs seriously made this scene and then said nah marx survived
itās just Magolors fan character donāt worry
I mean same game does show a method of him resurrecting tbf
Why do you think Magolor Soul appears in the novel over normal magolor phase 2
Meta Knight stuck in the loop of having to fix NOVA everytime Marx destroys them as punishment for his sins
Star Allies went with normal Phase 2 for both celebration pics so 
I mean thing is

Magolor 2 & Magolor Soul are basically the same, it's just one's technically using more of the Master Crown's power (at least applying Magolor EX lore) and has a different design
While Marx Soul fight is a sequel to Milky Way Wishes
me when two coos exist in the world (there are two of them (there are two coos (why are there two coos)))
The original died when Zero appeared
Coo just had depression era during dl3
Wait guys i just realized
They deadass made 3d models of pick and mine for this
I feel like magoland cameos might just happen cuz why would they do it just for masks lmfao
emo coo
The grey Coo the real one the purple is not Coo it's Cody do not fall for his lies
Grey coo is cody you mixed things up
He got you all fooled
me when marx soul shows up in the skies of magoland
Me when Spider Sectonia (or Joronia) is back from the dead
Me when ||Marx Soul is seen escaping Hades with Magolor and turns back to the normal form||
ill go crazy if they call the spider mask Joronia

See, with her it's fine actually because she already had 3d model
Yo fr ||meeting the Soul bosses in Hades kinda makes sense lmao||
||Like having a Marx Soul "rematch" (for player not for Magolor) would be dope lmfao||
||Finally Soul Forgo will have a boss battle||
||Same as Dark Matter Clone & Sectonia Clone in KPR||
||They technically already have assets for a Marx fight from Star Allies' HiAD credits...||
Wait wait
They 100% wont go that route cuz sounds too crazy but what if
If they ever remake Forgotten Land in like 20 years or something the twist should be that Fecto Forgo closes the window and Morpho doesn't gets to interrupt the fight
i guess if Magolor is beyond space and time rn he could fight these guys 
||magolor and marx team up to escape hades but as they go through, Magolor starts to change for real and Marx starts to dislike that and turns on him||
Kumazaki did specify in Miiverse he's in Another Dimension beyond time and space 
Boom, Marx Soul fight
Raw af...but it implies extensive character interaction which...lmao
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