Kirby RtDL Deluxe Leaks/Datamines

[languid dragon]

New Damaged Magolor plushie

[ocean magnet]

dude didnt you see the intro cutscene of dreamland 1, evidently even sakurai was in on it

[broken abyss]

i bet someone at hal was like "hey y'know that cool butterfly knight design we have"
and then everyone stared at them

[ocean magnet]

/s if i really need to say it

[mighty breach]

Morpho was supposed to be in the Kirby GameCube thingy, right? Which later became return to dreamland

[compact mica]

Pretty much

[ocean magnet]

his design was, its unknown if he would have had a similar role

kirby gcn got most of its assets/ideas spread out across return and star allies, with some other elements elsewhere

[dull geode]

Distant Traveler remix or riot

[cloud pasture]

GCK and RTDL are different projects

[ocean magnet]

there better be multiple

[cloud pasture]

RTDL is a game that uses assets from GCK and other scrapped games

but it is not GCK

[dull geode]

Imagine a sad distant traveler remix and it's called like "Traveler's Requiem" or something

[ocean magnet]

yea, gcn itself is a canceled game, its just that many elements have been repurposed

[dull geode]

For like results screens

[errant perch]

I’m honestly completely torn on who we’re gonna see out of the post game knight duo

[ocean magnet]

im betting dmk
/s

[languid dragon]

Magolor casually talking to Morpho at the end of the mode:

[dull geode]

I think it has to be Galacta. It'd be criminal to replace him with morpho when he did nothing in the original game lmao

Also both knights would have canon appearances

[compact mica]

Have both

[dull geode]

Alternatively that

[errant perch]

Yea, and maybe Morpho or the butterflies could appear outside of a boss fight

[compact mica]

I hope for the gcn devil guy most

[languid dragon]

Morpho “So uh Magolor wanna get out of Hades. Yeah fight Galacta Knight”

[bleak geyser]

galaga knight my belovee

[quaint osprey]

i mean tbh

while i love galacta he has no places here lmfao

its a "magolor escapes hell" mode after all

[scarlet ether]

I think he could be fit in, but ||Morpho is almost guaranteed||

[quaint osprey]

or at the very least "escapes death" mode

[compact mica]

Keep Galacta for a potential guest star

[quaint osprey]

yeah

this

ACTUALLY WAIT THIS IS BRILLIANT CUZ

[ocean magnet]

concept: during the normal modes, you fight galacta knight as normal, but then when he is defeated, you hear the forbidden tune and judgement descends upon him. AND THEN HE STABS THE BUTTERFLY, and a fight against light/dark commences

[cloud pasture]

SKC Channel post

[quaint osprey]

they might theme the mod around each kirby friend trying to prove themselves as strongest

or something

[compact mica]

Yeah

[errant perch]

Maybe gk tries to stop mag from escaping because he still thinks he’s evil, not knowing he’s reformed

[quaint osprey]

and the final challenge is galacta cuz you know

[compact mica]

Galacta doesn't care about good or evil I don't think

[dull geode]

I will destroy hal if the delegate him to sad non canon extra guy again

[quaint osprey]

i mean it means that galacta wont be in either

[quaint osprey]

prepare dem nukes

[cloud pasture]

wdym

[sweet lagoon]

galacta is just bloodthirsty I think

[ocean magnet]

actually how about retirement arc galacta knight
let him enjoy death as an npc

[quaint osprey]

potential guest star or epilogue

because magoland has no relation to epilogue (at least from what we know)

[cloud pasture]

Well Kuma said there he's wandering Hades there so y'know

[dull geode]

I mean this only applies if this is Hades which the best evidence for that is Hell Puffer

[compact mica]

MagoLand is the gateway to hell

[scarlet ether]

was it yomi or something else

either way, what if tag team fight

[cloud pasture]

Meikai

[scarlet ether]

oh

lame

[quaint osprey]

i was moreso talking about "other world" connection

[fierce valve]

||if this guy shows up at the end of the mode ||

[cloud pasture]

oh I didn't mean that one haha

I meant the meikai wandering one

Which is still interesting

[quaint osprey]

the best evidence is magolor himself

why else would he be monochrome

[quaint osprey]

yknoooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[compact mica]

He got shoved in a Gameboy

[dull geode]

Because drain him power he no power

[quaint osprey]

maybe they can make galacta knight a through line for entire post-game

[hoary oar]

I wonder if theres any actual significance between kuma using yomi vs meikai

[quaint osprey]

where he shows up everywhere but it leads into an arc

[fierce valve]

||honestly if what we are speculating is true then this guy not appearing would be miss potential||

[quaint osprey]

with climax being in the truest canon arena

[spark forge]

im just happy ||we'll get more boss music lol||

[quaint osprey]

true!

[scarlet ether]

||yomi specifically seemed to be what novel was based on at least (eating traps you there), we'll see if this game shares any connections to it or not||

[cloud pasture]

||Spirit of Halcandra's old king no way||

[dull geode]

Who would Morpho eat to gain his form

[ocean magnet]

Wait I just realized there could be a well founded reason for gn to attack magolor on sight if ||gn is just chilling in hades:||

||Magolor is kin to those who sealed him||

[dull geode]

Since Magolor is already very busy (I'm playing as him)

[scarlet ether]

well really Galacta just likes to fight lol
so I don't think it would matter either way

[languid dragon]

That’s his entire gimmick though

[ocean magnet]

The last remnant of the crown

Or maybe like a grand doomer

[dull geode]

If it's Galacta that gets eated somehow I'll once again destroy HAL

[quaint osprey]

this gimmick works only in non plot driven modes

[dull geode]

CANONICALLY eating him is fucked up

[quaint osprey]

even then, his only true out of place appearance was in original rtdl

[dull geode]

Which is why Magolors fun road trip through dimensional purgatory is the perfect place for him

[languid dragon]

I wonder how Magolor would overpower Galacta Knight

[bleak geyser]

how did he loose his belt buckle

[cloud pasture]

I mean, I think he has a place in Hades if he's specifically still wandering it post-SKC/KSA/whatever time shit he's going through

[dull geode]

Actually if this was Hades it would be pretty inconsistent with the novel considering Meta had to return to his body and wasn't powerless. If anything it was the opposite cause he didn't need to sleep or eat iirc

[scarlet ether]

and where did he go when he seemingly died in SSU?

[dull geode]

Which would be a little weird since Morpho has stayed consistent with the novel

[bleak geyser]

does magolor eat with his eye mouth

[ocean magnet]

Hmm, galacta knight is starting to lose his cool factor since whenever he shows up, we beat him

I wonder if there's any way he could show up not as a boss, so that we could see him do something cool/resparking respect for him

[languid dragon]

At this point he’s still in his seal

Also we gotta remember this is between RTDL and TDX but I’m not sure how much that matters lmao

[vivid niche]

we don't know if Galacta Knight is even alive in the main timeline

[dull geode]

Why would he be deaded

[bleak geyser]

i love magolors pointy ears

[dull geode]

Who done kilt galacta

[fierce valve]

is a cta creture

[cloud pasture]

Kumazaki has established that we don't really have an established timeline for Galacta Knight's time travels tho

[vivid niche]

also I hope it's not ||Hades|| but that's just me

[bleak geyser]

galactas funny crystal

[cloud pasture]

Plus his random appearance in RTDL True Arena can easily be retconned with more context or whatever

[vivid niche]

||I'd much prefer exploring Magolor's homeworld or just random places in Another Dimension like in HiAD||

[bleak geyser]

halcandra

[languid dragon]

Hmm true

That would give a reason for calling him a time traveling warrior

[scarlet ether]

||I mean I doubt it's 'Hades', probably Yomi||

[dull geode]

I feel like they'll save Hades for a starring role. Even with just the little bit of information we have it's not really lining up that well with novel Hades

[vivid niche]

probably former because the ||Fatty Puffer looks akin to Magolor||

[languid dragon]

||Fatty Puffer with the beelzebub drip||

[ocean magnet]

I wouldn't be surprised if kumazaki is taking this chance to redraw some of canon, I think he doesn't really like how vague it got

[vivid niche]

guys tag your spoilers

[bleak geyser]

oh yeab

[vivid niche]

||gear thing on his belly, the horns, and Halcandran/Void/Whatever-that-is alphabet on his bottom||

[scarlet ether]

||we already explored what seemed to be Magolor's homeworld (Halcandra) and Yomi is likely in Another Dimension, so you know||

[bleak geyser]

||fatty puffer has the halcandran text on him||

[errant perch]

I just want to face off against my boi in a mainline switch game

[vivid niche]

yeah

it's either something like a ||personal purgatory or AD/Halcandra||

||unless Magolor literally came from hell and everyone looks like him in there||

not everything needs to be tied to the novels

[languid dragon]

||It would be so underwhelming if it was AD/Halcandra lmao||

[scarlet ether]

who said it was?

[bleak geyser]

||he doesnt have horns||

[vivid niche]

it wasn't directed to anyone?

[dull geode]

||yeah Puffer having some of his motifs makes me think it's a strange dimensional rift made by the crown||

[vivid niche]

just saying that mangas were never canon to this day and there's no reason for them to be

[bleak geyser]

||the powered mags has horns normal mags doesnt||

[vivid niche]

novels*

[scarlet ether]

||Yomi's in game too you know lol||

[languid dragon]

We already know the games can take inspiration from the novels

Like wasn’t point stars being currency introduced in the novels and put into FL?

Albiet star coins

[dull geode]

I only said it cause the Morpho Novel had info that was accurate to Morphos appearance to FL

[vivid niche]

that's a stretch

[dull geode]

they don't have to stick to it but the fact that they have so far is interesting

[bleak geyser]

||goth fatty puffer||

[vivid niche]

||fatty puffer if he was evil||

[dull geode]

||Evil 2||

[uncut oxide]

electric boogaloo

[languid dragon]

This is coming from someone who believes the games and light novels don’t even exist in the same multiverse

[vivid niche]

you're right but both arguments are completely different

point stars being used as currency =/= ||a very specific location from the novels being introduced for the first time in a game||

[scarlet ether]

||even if they don't take inspiration from each other, I think they could use similar elements if it is Yomi (though that is partially due to the fact that it is, well, Yomi)||

[dull geode]

The fact they changed the AD levels to not be monochrome is mad suspicious

||But the shot we have of wherever Magolor doesn't look monochrome so oh well||

Morpho novel about to be completely disregarded after being consistent lmfao

[quaint osprey]

I think its less games take inspiration from novels

And more Mie Takase just getting insider info

[scarlet ether]

yeah

[languid dragon]

[toxic crown]

This design is bleh

[spark forge]

the more love is given to RTDL

[hallow laurel]

Mie Takase the true insider

[quaint osprey]

Because there's no way Kuma name dropped hades without having ANY idea how that location works

[spark forge]

the more im worried about when it'll be TDX's turn

not for the content that could exist, no

but for my health

lol

[languid dragon]

||The ground is monochrome and Magolor’s clothes are faded||

[dull geode]

That's COLORFUL GRAAAH I HATE COLOR

[tawdry cairn]

This is a really good image

There's so much to unpack just from this random shot of ||hell puffer|| lol

[languid dragon]

||The idea of Magolor busting his way out of Hades sounds metal af||

[vivid niche]

||green part says Magic Spheres||

[hoary oar]

Magic Balls

[vivid niche]

||again, the weirdest thing to me here is how Fatty Puffer looks like Magolor||

[mighty breach]

I'm still trying to understand if we can talk about the leaks outside of spoiler brackets or not

[dull geode]

Really want to know what the white part says lol

[compact mica]

There better be some badass rock ass music here

[mighty breach]

Doom

[vivid niche]

tag the spoilers

unless they're super subtle like "Really want to know what the white part says lol"

[mighty breach]

I really want to know what all parts say

[dull geode]

TRUE

[compact mica]

||https://youtu.be/WPZ7n7zVJOU would love if some tracks sounded like this intro for hell||

[scarlet ether]

||that is the attack Magolor uses in his boss fight, the standard B attack in Star Allies, and the move he uses in the screenshot with Puffer||

[tawdry cairn]

If it's actually tailored to ||magolor I feel like that would make more sense for why the bosses in hades or wherever this is are specifically based on the rtdl guys ||

[vivid niche]

yeah I know

[hoary oar]

||Magolor's hell is just a bunch of people cosplaying as him||

[scarlet ether]

saying incase people don't lol

[vivid niche]

yeah fair lmao

I hope we see more on the Direct

[remote jasper]

Considering he built a whole amusement park with his face on it I'd say that he would like that

[ocean magnet]

You know, this takes place in a weird spot, like this is literally right after the betrayal. Just think about that...

[remote jasper]

Also hi

Like good ending

[vivid niche]

tag your spoilers

[remote jasper]

😐

[vivid niche]

deleted then

[remote jasper]

Ups

Sorry

[mint oxide]

||so is extra mode basically confirmed dead?||

[vivid niche]

not yet

[languid dragon]

||No||

[ocean magnet]

There could be ||both||

[languid dragon]

||Man it’s hard not to jump to conclusions especially when it’s something you want lmao||

[mint oxide]

||i would honestly still love an improved version of the og extra mode||

[languid dragon]

True

||Just have difficulty options||

[vivid niche]

yeah we gotta stay objective no matter what we want/don't want in a game

[hoary oar]

||Monkey's paw: Magolor is indeed in hell but they will use yet another term that's not yomi or meikai or ikai||

[vivid niche]

90%

[bleak geyser]

magic balls

[vivid niche]

probably something like a ||personal hell||

though I'm still not sure why wouldn't they use a more ||hellish logo||

like this is anything but ||Hell|| to me

[uncut oxide]

||It fits Magolor that’s for sure||

[vivid niche]

||HiAD screams Another Dimension||

[broken smelt]

Oh true

[languid dragon]

Hmm

[vivid niche]

||Forgo Dreams is obviously night/dream themed||

and mind you

||HiAD has Another Dimension on it's title||

||Forgo Dreams has Dreams on it's title||

you know what ||Magolor ||has?

||Interdimensional Traveler||

[ocean magnet]

What if only ||part of it is Hades? Maybe there's like 4 parts, like HiAD. Going through Hades, then AD, then halcandra, then back to Dreamland?||

That would be|| an epilogue||

[vivid niche]

||also the halcandran sigil||

[tawdry cairn]

I mean if it actually is ||hades probably bc they don't want to put "hades," "hell," or "underworld" on the box for a toddlers video game||

[noble lynx]

is that even ||Halcandran||

[languid dragon]

What if ||Magolor immediately escapes Hades and they just chase after him||

[vivid niche]

it has the letters

||like the ones Evil Fatty Puffer has||

[spark forge]

hey

heyheyheyhey

just a quick question

[vivid niche]

but yeah I give a high chance that this might be ||Magolor's personal purgatory; but the only contradicting part is the logo and subtitle||

[spark forge]

what if

[vivid niche]

which, as we seen, ||the previous titles were more obvious with||

[spark forge]

||The interdimensional travller
isnt referring Magolor :^) ||

[dull geode]

I'm telling you it's totally ||dimensional prison for really bad people who wear evil crowns||

[tawdry cairn]

||galacta baybee||

[languid dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-quagmire-glen-jaw-gif-22600043

[vivid niche]

like Toadsworth?

[ocean magnet]

Magolor|| starts at Hades, then makes his way throughout the game in reverse, as a big ol' epilogue||

[dull geode]

Yes like toadstool

[vivid niche]

toadsworth*

made a typo

[dull geode]

Dammit

Anyways there is definitely some contextualization they gotta do here

[vivid niche]

but yeah ||no connection to Hades so far other than the one screenshot we've had being tinted red; and the fact that Magolor "dies" after the boss battle||

[dull geode]

||no cut scene like HIAD ain't gonna cut it lmao I need to know why Magolor doesn't have his powers||

[vivid niche]

I know you guys have been excited to see it but we can't really say anything concrete before we get more info

it could be ||Hades, a personal hell, deep Halcandra or just Another Dimension||

all of them would make sense on their own with the little amount of material we've got

[dull geode]

Certified ||Hades|| denier

As much as I want to see it eventually lol

[hallow laurel]

What if they just call it

[dull geode]

Triple dog dare all believers to go to ||Hades|| irl and see if it matches up

[hallow laurel]

||The Land of Judgement||

[dull geode]

Then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vivid niche]

||judgement hall||

[hallow laurel]

localized, that is

[dull geode]

Fandom explosion I think

[hallow laurel]

||That said if they use Hades that would instantly become badass||

[vivid niche]

||Underworld||

[hallow laurel]

oh yeah

that too

[ocean magnet]

||Undertale||

[hallow laurel]

no

[dull geode]

||Me when another medium plays||

[spark forge]

NoA localizers having to deal with Kumazaki putting ||hell, suicide, murder and inhuman experimentation|| into the baby games

[vivid niche]

is that the localized name of ||Another Dimension Mr Dooter||?

[dull geode]

I think about how funny it is that Kumazaki makes creepy art and has the power to just make Kirby utterly horrifying but doesnt do it

[vivid niche]

Kirby shouldn't go too metal

[dull geode]

Oh of course not but the fact that Kumazaki is just dialing it back is funny

[vivid niche]

even Robobot which is probably the darkest and most metal Kirby game no pun intended, has a balance

[mortal dock]

||mr doomer would be an easy english name||

[broken smelt]

yeah kumazaki's art is wild but its a bit too much for kirby imo

[hallow laurel]

Kirby needs to stay approachable

that's the point of Kirby lol

[broken smelt]

this is so on the nose they need to do it

[mortal dock]

the haltmann thing made me sick to my stomach when I was younger lol

[dull geode]

No Kirby should make me cry and shit

[broken smelt]

false i actually do want kirby to make me cry

[vivid niche]

keep in mind, they CAN make a Kirby game that only appeals to older fans but it wouldn't sell too many copies lmao

[quaint osprey]

tbh game really doesnt do much with its dark undertones imo

[mortal dock]

kirby fiber edition

[hallow laurel]

He'll do it in the movie

[dull geode]

Make the children suffer

[vivid niche]

HAL/Nintendo aren't THAT free to do anything they want

[broken smelt]

i wanna sob

[quaint osprey]

this invasion and take over should be horrific but game glosses over it almost completely

[vivid niche]

they're running a business at the end

[quaint osprey]

meta knight gets turned into cyborg against his will and kirby doesnt give a shit

he beats him up and dances lol

[broken smelt]

PR's main menu theme is pretty "sad" compared to the other ones though

[dull geode]

It's okay they give us the extra modes to keep us happy

[hallow laurel]

Kirby is just happy he did a good thing

[quaint osprey]

i think FL handled its tone the best despite tackling way less dark subject matter

[vivid niche]

I love Robobot's title theme

[quaint osprey]

its identical to tdx's tho?

[vivid niche]

when I first played the game, I just sat down for 10 minutes on the title

[mortal dock]

kirby's just numb to possession these days

[quaint osprey]

oh you mean title screen

[supple depot]

hey everybody what datamines are we talking about rn

[quaint osprey]

well if ENTIRE GAME had the vibe of title screen it would be true peak fiction

[hallow laurel]

none

[vivid niche]

the boxart has been leaked

[quaint osprey]

otherwise it just doesnt really push it enough

[broken smelt]

oh yeah i meant title screen

mb

[vivid niche]

should be pinned

[mortal dock]

pause screen is also trippy

[vivid niche]

but no datamines just yet

[hallow laurel]

the back of the box has leaked

[supple depot]

i know

[hallow laurel]

and revealed something very interesting about the game

[broken smelt]

||magolor in hell||

[dull geode]

||the tone of the magolor mode is gonna be sooooo good||

[ocean magnet]

The soul os disintegrates, taking with it the last evidence of haltmann's existence as his last scream echoes throughout the chamber

Two seconds later 🥳 🏆 🥳

[broken smelt]

LETS GOO

[sweet lagoon]

||magolor doom leaked||

[vivid niche]

Haltmann turned himself into a crystal heart

[supple depot]

me when im ||magolor and get sent to hell for my crimes against the universe:||

[hallow laurel]

it was a very unusual tone for Kirby right at the start

[sweet lagoon]

flip the heart over susie

[mortal dock]

the robobot crying in the end cutscene was cute

[errant perch]

Same thing with soul of sectonia

[broken smelt]

going from TDX's title screen to PR's is jarring lol

[quaint osprey]

tbh that was at least fitting because in true arena you lowkey not given any chance to breathe to take in the moment

you survived hell so you deserve to celebrate

(i hate true arena in robobot)

[broken smelt]

5 phases

[mortal dock]

haltmann I find really interesting because he's such a terrible person but I feel bad for him. I think he's an awesome villain from the little we get to see of him in the flesh

[vivid niche]

TDX True Arena was worse for me

[quaint osprey]

fuck star dream soul os all my homies hate star dream soul os

[vivid niche]

took me almost a year to beat it

[mortal dock]

I still never beat soul os

[broken smelt]

i dont think i ever beat pr's arena lol

[mortal dock]

I can't cheese it with wheel so what's the point

[supple depot]

i sadly only have experience in the kirby games accessable on the switch so im just going off of gameplay as a reference aaaaaknhfgfg

[ocean magnet]

Haltmann was a bad person, but his fate was much worse than needed

[errant burrow]

honestly it was worth cheating by using a kirby amiibo to full heal for being able to play the Soul OS section with UFO for a true Nova experience

[dull geode]

He's a capitalist. Getting his soul just erased is much better than he deserved tbh

[mortal dock]

all 3 "modern trilogy" villains have really gruesome fates

[broken smelt]

he's like super dead

[dull geode]

A SPACE CEO

[broken smelt]

more dead than everyone else

[dull geode]

That's insane

[mellow snow]

Did another sketch of ||Fallen Magolor|| cause I’m in love with this design

[dull geode]

Peak villainy

[vivid niche]

like ok Marx

[vivid niche]

I love

[broken smelt]

his new fit is SO GOOD

[dull geode]

When the papi is sus

[broken smelt]

YO based

[hoary oar]

Personally I never actually believed Haltmann was like
More dead than dead

[mellow snow]

God can we get a trailer now I’m dying

[vivid niche]

wait til 8th

[mellow snow]

[dull geode]

Tomorrow or I DIE

Give me a new trailer or I'll DIE

[broken smelt]

january 31st lol

[vivid niche]

if a direct doesn't happen in 8th I'll literally explode

all signs point to that date

[dull geode]

If it doesn't happen THIS WEEK I'll explode

[hoary oar]

If it doesn't happen in three minutes I explode

[vivid niche]

Advance Wars being back in pre order, RtDL websites being up, investors meeting, the annual February direct,

[errant perch]

I’m expecting the 3rd because that exactly 3 weeks before release, when demos usually drop

[broken smelt]

btw is the box canadian or something? im from canada and everything over here comes in french and english

[vivid niche]

also 8th is a Wednesday which is like the #1 direct day

[mortal dock]

by the by what will the spoiler threshold be. 2 months with the 2nd month being less strict?

[tawdry cairn]

Depends

[vivid niche]

yeah depends

2 months would be a bit too long

[tawdry cairn]

We'll decide that later when we have more details to work off of

[vivid niche]

but we'll see

[mortal dock]

makes sense

[spark forge]

kirbo games are pretty short

and this is a remake

[hoary oar]

I dunno where else they'd have a box with french and english on it so yea probably Canada

[broken smelt]

i wonder if i can find it then...

[dull geode]

Oi this box art she is beautiful no

[hoary oar]

Just become a gamestop employee

[vivid niche]

||ok let's say that we'll somehow get the original EX Mode back, and Magolor Mode will require Ex Mode to be beaten,||

[broken smelt]

i need community service hours anyway

[vivid niche]

that would make the spoiler policy last longer

[dull geode]

I will never play it

[vivid niche]

||no matter how long Magolor Mode would be||

[hoary oar]

To become a gamestop employee?????

[vague vector]

I did all of mine already

[broken smelt]

no lmao for school

[tawdry cairn]

I will say though 2 months is def too long

[hoary oar]

I don't think being a gamestop employee counts as community service hours

[broken smelt]

HOW

[tawdry cairn]

Even FL spoiler policy wasn't that long

[dull geode]

Please god difficult setting

[vague vector]

I'm gonna preorder my copy on amazon and hope that it comes in early so I can leak it 😎

[broken smelt]

probably not tbh

unless..

[mortal dock]

was only thinking this bc Pokemon - tho of course one is an open world rpg so the same def doesn't apply lol

[hoary oar]

I worked at a summer institute for community hours when I did that like a decade ago I basically just drank a lot of coke from the staff fridge

[supple depot]

id say make the spoiler policy about 2 weeks-1 month long
the story thats already there has been known for more than a decade but theres some extra story added plus there could be some people experiencing the game for the first time
and its pretty short so

[tawdry cairn]

Trust me there is no "community service" at gamestop

[mortal dock]

working at gamestop is a community detriment

[vivid niche]

again it all depends on the amount of non-story modes and how long they'll be

[supple depot]

so could somebody maybe give me a quick rundown of the magolor discussion before i hopped in here

[tawdry cairn]

Tbh pokemons was mostly just that long to cover Christmas too

[vivid niche]

tag it

[hallow laurel]

If Planet Robobot gets remade... please give us the full The Noble Haltmann with lyrics

[mortal dock]

ahh that makes sense

[broken smelt]

it used to be called EB games here

[tawdry cairn]

Although it also coincided with pokemon posting everything too so W

[vivid niche]

but it won't be more than 1.5 months me thinks

[dull geode]

Me when I get muted for 12 days for spoiling Brobos appearance in Egg Catcher

[sweet lagoon]

think 1 month is enough personally

[mortal dock]

the funny brief awkward period of Pokemon posting things that were still embargoed

[sweet lagoon]

but I dunno we’ll figure that out by release

[supple depot]

cool advice one question though what is tagging.
i am not a smart discord user,,

[vivid niche]

ok so

write something

[hoary oar]

How much do I need to bribe a gamestop employee right now to go find a RtDx display case and just read what Magolor says in the screenshot

[bleak geyser]

target gets games early sometimes

[supple depot]

something

[vivid niche]

and select it with your cursor like this

[hoary oar]

I don't need a picture just read it and memorize it and post it online pls

[vivid niche]

a mini-tab appears on top of your words

press the one with an eyeball

[bleak geyser]

i remember a tarvet having pokemon violet copies out early on accident

[errant burrow]

ow my eyeball

[hoary oar]

[vivid niche]

zero four

[supple depot]

ah you mean spoilering yeah i know how to do that,,
i frumpin,, thought it was a way to like. check different points of a channel in a flash or somethin idk.

[broken smelt]

what does F CONER MEAN

[bleak geyser]

conner f

[hoary oar]

I wanted an emote of coner

[vivid niche]

f coner

[bleak geyser]

cone

[hallow laurel]

that's the stuff on the chocolate egg

[broken abyss]

wait

[tawdry cairn]

It's an fcraig homage

[mortal dock]

fsteak?

[hoary oar]

fcraig

[broken abyss]

:fconer:

1984

[hoary oar]

What does this mean

[errant burrow]

when the nitro emote

[hoary oar]

Ah

[mortal dock]

[chilly ibex]

[broken smelt]

:fconer:

[tawdry cairn]

This is your nitro benefit

[broken smelt]

damn

[hoary oar]

This is also your nitro benefit

[spark forge]

:fconer:

[chilly ibex]

[spark forge]

:(

[mortal dock]

this is your brain on drugs

[tawdry cairn]

🍳

[broken smelt]

eggs on pan

[hoary oar]

eggs on pan when they meet eggs on ace

[chilly ibex]

rtdx ending??? 😟

[hallow laurel]

pan on egg

[tawdry cairn]

Make a pan magolor emote NOW

[mortal dock]

egg so hot you can fry a leg

[tawdry cairn]

⛈️

[hallow laurel]

[supple depot]

[errant perch]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-kirby-meme-gif-24950913

[vital seal]

||can't wait for Galacta Knight to come back with new raw as fuck hades design for no reason||

[hallow laurel]

maybe it's finally about time Under My Control gets remixed

[errant perch]

||This gif is now canon||

[mortal dock]

||spoiler tag that! you can't leak that yellow magolor is back ||

[bleak geyser]

PLEASEEEE

[broken smelt]

this is SICK

||also true i know they're gonna give him a really sick new form||

[bleak geyser]

H

[broken smelt]

||if fatty puffer got one he deserves one too||

[hallow laurel]

instead the remix we'll get is just

[sweet lagoon]

||Aeon Hero (Hell)||

[broken smelt]

this goes hard??

[hoary oar]

No way Pan-color magolor

[hallow laurel]

le pan egg

[broken smelt]

this is the eggs on pan

[toxic crown]

its canon now

[dull geode]

Wonder what the ||boss titles will be||

[hallow laurel]

depends if they'll even put them

[dull geode]

My money is on ||Paradise or Magoloran||

[toxic crown]

||or just inferno||

||infernal even||

[dull geode]

||paradise as a funny haha lor=paradise and Magoloran because uhhh uhhh idk can't think of any reason why bosses with Magolors motif would be called that||

[hoary oar]

||call them Ende bosses b/c funny void horns||

[broken smelt]

i hope they keep the splash screens

[supple depot]

putting my money on ||inferno because like. dantes 14th century fanfiction about hell and magolor is. probably in hell so||

[hallow laurel]

I wonder if they'll change the world names in french to actually say something similar to CROWNED

(in french it says PARFAIT, iirc)

[broken smelt]

||14th century fan fiction 💀 ||

[errant perch]

||Imagine if they just go with something boring like fiery ||

[supple depot]

||I MEAN AM I WRONG||

[hoary oar]

||NOA be like:||

[broken smelt]

||my bets are on infernal rn||

[languid dragon]

||That’s fairly hard going||

[tawdry cairn]

||infernal dooter||

[languid dragon]

||Infernal Puffer||

[errant perch]

||Infernal general sounds pretty raw ngl ||

[supple depot]

||watch there end up being an Infernal Crown or something idk
i mean a battle with a manifestation of the master crown would be raw as hell||

[placid vigil]

||hey guys i saw rhe new leak, is it just that btw? did only the cover of the game get leaked?||

||also wtffffff||

[broken smelt]

thats all we have rn yeah

[supple depot]

||yeah just the box so far||

[broken smelt]

crazy how much hype a little box has caused

[placid vigil]

I MEAN ||HAL IS BASED FOR MAKING AN MAGALOR EPILOGUE||

[hoary oar]

||No but if I don't see 50 funny references to religious afterlifes I'm going to piss and cry||

[placid vigil]

||literally think this concept is cool "we play as magalor i AD trying to get back home||

[placid vigil]

||magalor fights jesus and after the fight he realizes that lying is a sin||

[supple depot]

||we're playing hades but oppositely||

[broken smelt]

||i wonder if there's like a good after life in the kirby universe||

||assuming hades is strictly bad||

[hoary oar]

||I mean that's what sukhavati is||

||The word sukhavati literally means 'extreme bliss' in sanskrit||

||same for the Jp word gokuraku||

[broken smelt]

||and sukhavati is hades or||

[broken smelt]

talking about this in the context of kirby is fucking wild

[hoary oar]

||No the butterfly represents sukhavati normally but represents hades as Morpho Knight||

[broken smelt]

uh huh

[hoary oar]

||極楽の夢見鳥 = Dream Bird of Sukhavati/Butterfly of Paradise
黄泉からの騎士 = Knight from the Underworld/Hades||

[broken smelt]

what the hellll

[hoary oar]

||Wait also
I think I realized this before and forgot but
That last sentence in Morpho Knight's description is probably a reference to GK's RtDL description
||

[placid vigil]

||excited for the dark nebula king of the underworld reveal/j||

[hoary oar]

||Morpho: The curtains rise… on the showdown of dreams with That Being which could never be fought, buried in history’s darkness!
GK: The curtains rise on a transdimensional dream battle!||

||What a dream battle! moment||

[noble lynx]

dimensional

[placid vigil]

||i dreamt that battle.||

[hoary oar]

||Actually this is a more accurate translation of RtDL line:
ジゲンをこえて じつげんした、ゆめのバトルの まくあけだ!
The curtains rise on a battle of dreams, made possible by crossing dimensions!||

[placid vigil]

||do yall think galacta will appear or morpho?||

[broken smelt]

both

[hoary oar]

||There is no reality where it is a good decision to cut GK and imo it would be a very big missed opportunity for Morpho to not be in RtDL||

[errant perch]

||Gk just shows up for no reason, again…||

[hoary oar]

||He is literally already in the game||

[broken smelt]

||he was randomly put in RtDL's arena so i think this would be the perfect opportunity to elaborate on him||

[errant perch]

||It would be kinda hard to considering the context (if this is in hades) but maybe hal is cooking up a real spicy plot line, who knows||

[broken smelt]

||they could just say he died in SA, or maybe this is from when he died in SSU||

||idk he's a time traveller, point is most of his fights lead to him dying||

[tawdry cairn]

This

[spark forge]

agreed, ||it would be disappointing to see Galacta Knight starting to just disappear ||

[tawdry cairn]

||cutting gk is weird since he was in the base game to begin with, and the fact this is the first game that had the butterfly and the supposed look of the magolor epilogue support a morpho appearance too||

[broken smelt]

||his portal closing in SKC also spewed fire particles which is wild considering this||

[hoary oar]

||Most importantly though I want to see them make out||

[spark forge]

hit me up

[tawdry cairn]

||Mfw clash magolor was there for aeon hero Dark except clash magolor is the normal magolor except magolor is also in another dimension or whatever the fuck

And also there's a guy running an amusement park.||

[placid vigil]

same

[tawdry cairn]

||Multiverse of Magolor||

[hoary oar]

||I just had an aneurysm reading this
I can't wait for this game to confirm clash canon and I die||

[tawdry cairn]

Actually I wonder if they'll try to actually justify ||multiplayer in magolor epilogue at all. Like we know there's other magolor colors, but will it be purely for gameplay convenience or will they actually try to explain it||

[spark forge]

||uh yes clearly Magolor's soul splits up sometimes||

[austere yacht]

||So would that mean morpho can time travel||

[broken smelt]

Magolor into the magoverse

Magolor across the magoverse

[mighty breach]

Dark Meta Knight did it

[broken smelt]

Idk lmao

[placid vigil]

||its funny thinking about the fact magalor is escaping literal hell, like i mean does he just... make a portal to get out of there, sounds like super redundant if so cause any mage in the series could do that||

[spark forge]

||Morpho can already enter psychic pocket dimensions at will so this isn't that much of a leap||

[mighty breach]

||Maybe he's trying to either contact the lor or get in the lor somehow so he can escape to another dimension||

||Magolor prison break but it's hell||

[placid vigil]

||satan stealth level||

[austere yacht]

||He could also just be collecting a stone or something to make a portal||

[lone ridge]

||I still find it hilarious how this basically implies magolor literally escapes from hell||

[hoary oar]

||I mean we don't actually know if Magolor can open holes to AD||

[broken smelt]

||I wonder how escaping hell gives him the idea to become a carnival owner though||

[mighty breach]

||It'd be really funny now if the epilogue did not take place anywhere on hell and the screenshot was purely a coincidence because haha funny water area is now fire area||

[spark forge]

||he does with the Master Crown at least||

[vague vector]

lol

[mighty breach]

This will be magolor in 2023

[vague vector]

Magolor Epilogue if it was awesomer

[lone ridge]

||No it would be Hell life||

[austere yacht]

||I mean all we can really assume is that it’s in another dimension ||

[hoary oar]

MFW It's a super big deal that Elfilin/Elfilis can open holes to AD
And then Parallel Nightmare also just has that ability

[spark forge]

look

just

put clash games in the corner for now

[chilly ibex]

||i hope magolor uses super abilties just bc||

[mighty breach]

You guys don't have that ability? I thought it was normal

[vague vector]

[compact mica]

I do

[austere yacht]

||Maybe this is where the super enemies come from ||

[hoary oar]

||Magolor better have an Ultra Sword battle with Morpho or some shit||

[compact mica]

I may have doomed humanity while doing it but it works

[broken smelt]

||Doesn’t this basically confirm Manager Magolor and Magalor are two different people? I mean I assume you unlock this mode after you beat the main story, but magalor would be trapped in hell so you wouldn’t be able to play in magoland||

[chilly ibex]

TRUE

[hoary oar]

||Honestly I forgot it was even possible for Manager Magolor and the Magolor in the main story to be the same person still||

[vague vector]

||I think this just takes place in the future, at least I would assume so||

[spark forge]

oh my god the set up, the blueprint

[broken smelt]

This but real

[placid vigil]

||this mode could also explain why magalor has all his powers back in SA which is cool i like it||

[compact mica]

||Magolor having to face death itself in a giant sword battle would be badass||

Sounds familiar now that I say that

[placid vigil]

puss in boots wtf

[broken smelt]

No way??

[compact mica]

||Mago is a cat||

[vague vector]

||pick it up. PICK. IT. UP.||

[manic kite]

||Magolor Face Reveal When?||

[mighty breach]

this is gonna be so fucking metal

[manic kite]

||Just make sure to take a nap so the monsters don't spawn||

[broken smelt]

Place the bed down magolor

[vague vector]

||Magolor fighting the ender dragon (landia super ex hades form||

[placid vigil]

||if this is truly hell i am excited for hal to troll and put enemies that have not appeared since adventure, implying that they died and went to hell||

||phan phan boss fight||

[compact mica]

Mr Shine and Mr Die

[broken smelt]

[mighty breach]

||rolling turtle||

[manic kite]

Mr Sun and Mr Gun

[compact mica]

||Golem and Fire Phan Phan show up||

[broken smelt]

Mr Piss and Mr Shit

[broken abyss]

magolor after collecting ||hell currency or whatever gimmick they have|| and trying to make a portal out of it

[compact mica]

||Bukiset too idk||

[errant perch]

||Heavy mole||

[tawdry cairn]

I'm telling you, have a moment where ||magolor is locked in a struggle with an ultra sword where you have to mash/shake or whatever just like how kirby does at the end of magolor 1||

For the funny parallel

[compact mica]

I hope ||Magolor has randomised sword designs like Kirby||

[spark forge]

STOPPPPPPP YOU'RE MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE

IM GONNA BE MAD WHEN IT DOESNT HAPPEN

[broken smelt]

They both have giant swords so they need to have a clash it just makes sense

I’m pretty sure that was in the bible

[compact mica]

||Assuming Morphine even shows up||

[mighty breach]

Terminalmontage fans are gonna have a blast with this one

[placid vigil]

magalor should just use gem apple throw smh

[tawdry cairn]

Jedi when he sees King#4513 in the credits

[manic kite]

||Magolor will release Morpho Knight into the multiverse||

[broken smelt]

Morphine Knight

[compact mica]

Yeah

[hoary oar]

||Magolor after slashing Morpho a dozen times with his Ultra Sword, before the screen fades to white and he sees a black silhouette flashing on screen:||

[compact mica]

||He turns into Galacta||

[mighty breach]

||Morpho absorbs the phantom of the master crown and becomes the King of Hell||

[manic kite]

||SANS||

[spark forge]

🎻

[broken smelt]

||For Morpho and GK to be in the same place at the same time he’d need to absorb something else ||

[lofty slate]

https://youtu.be/W-_HJeaBraM
This will be a new Magolor song lol

[hoary oar]

||Nah fuck it just do some AD time shenanigans||

[ocean magnet]

Unless Morpho can just use the fecto bits by themselves

[mighty breach]

||Magolor wondering if the one eyed red face floating monster is somehow connected to dark matter||

[tawdry cairn]

The ||butterflies disperse and galacta is left behind (do not ask me what this implies)||

[spark forge]

||it could be that Magolor first goes up against some sort of projection representing his evil self

and then it gets 🦋'd lol and then it becomes morpho time||

[placid vigil]

||final boss should actually be frosty. just normal frosty, no changes at all.||

[compact mica]

If this remake doesn't have a remix of a song that sound alot worse than the original then is it truly a remake?

[broken smelt]

||The crown getting morphoed||

[spark forge]

||Finally. Magalacta(?? what)||

[broken smelt]

||which then creates Chaos Magolor 😱||

[hoary oar]

||The Master Crown shatters and a dark star bounces out of it||

[manic kite]

I found concept art of the new boss ||/J||

[ocean magnet]

"actually death is pretty lame"
-galacta knight

[manic kite]

God I need to re-do this at some point

[lofty slate]

Imagine if they really did make a Fly! Kirby of the Stars Super Star Ultra soundfont remix tho in Magolor’s Epilogue I wouldn’t mind it at all

[tawdry cairn]

||king of the underworld ||

[mighty breach]

||"Hello Magolor, my name is Papi from the novels. You died and went to Hell, but it's alright I will guide you on your quest to defeat Morpho Knight"
Papi then betrays magolor and takes the morpho powers and suddenly magolor understands that betraying people is kinda cringe||

[hoary oar]

||Shut UP DAMMIT||

[placid vigil]

||magalor has to chase dark nebula while hell is being destroyed||

[hoary oar]

||Morpho Knight comes but he makes you fight Galacta and Forgo||

[spark forge]

nice triple deluxe reference

[manic kite]

DUN dun DUUUUUUUUUUN,
dun DUN duuuuuuuuuuuuun,
DUN dun DUUUUUUUUUUUUN~

[mighty breach]

||Morpho Knight turns into 0³ because||

[placid vigil]

||kind d mind appears out of nowhere||

[supple depot]

||BLUD WAS NOT READY||

[mighty breach]

||"Alright, it's magolorin' time!" Said magolor as he held the dark star rod against Morpho after possessing King Hell-Mind||

[broken smelt]

||morpho when magolor pulls out the triple star and the master crown ||

[hoary oar]

||Morpho Knight when Magolor pulls out the magical paintbrush and removes his limbs||

[placid vigil]

||the dog from the hal logo will actually be the final boss||

[mighty breach]

||morpho when gryll shows up||

[ocean magnet]

It was so hype when ||galacta knight and Morpho knight put on the masks of dark bonds||

[supple depot]

||CREATOR OF AWAKENING
NIGHTMARE HATCHER||

[hoary oar]

||Tbh I think it was cooler when they swapped masks and said 'you cannot tell who is who!' and magolor just shot both of them||

[ocean magnet]

The embodiment of the ||spring breeze itself|| 🤯

[echo mesa]

Hey remember when ||Demon Pyribbit showed up and spent as much time in the background as Star Dream phase 1||

[placid vigil]

||morpho gets defeated and they have an 30 second animation of them turning into a ball of paint||

[mighty breach]

I need to be ready for the disappointment that will be ||the epilogue not being in hell||

[ocean magnet]

And then ||kid Kirby kid'ed all over everyone||

[echo mesa]

Beast Virus 2.0

[placid vigil]

||its slidin time||

[hoary oar]

||Oh man but remember when Infernal Grand Doomer called every Soul boss into the background to do Bound Pound at the same time||

[mighty breach]

||Escargoon pulling out the dragoon to one shot Morpho||

[placid vigil]

||fire dedede boss fight was so good||

[spark forge]

are we sharing our fanfics now

i mean

are you sharing your fanfics now

[mighty breach]

No those are all real leaks

[echo mesa]

OUR HERO!

[ocean magnet]

No jestin here

[broken smelt]

||Damn just realized we aren’t getting infernal dedede ||

[hoary oar]

||Jedi I gotta admit I cried a bit when Dedede pulled out the Dedede Star Rod Hammer Custom Deluxe and made 86555 tiny Dededes||

[mighty breach]

||Papi's final quote was so powerful... "Magolor... You really Mag...a lot..." I'm in tears||

[spark forge]

why are you telling me this i didn't write that

[ocean magnet]

AND THEN IN COMES ||SECTONIA WITH THE STEEL CHAIR||

[spark forge]

BY GOD

[errant perch]

||All the while roar of dededestroyer z was playing in the background, such a banger theme||

[mighty breach]

least insane Kirby chat

[lament herald]

||Are they finally redeeming Magolor canonically?||

[supple depot]

||cant wait for the final true bossfight against the nightmare hatcher in the lor arena||

[boreal spruce]

||nah, magolor won't regret a single thing he did at the end of the epilogue ||

[ocean magnet]

||kirby is the knight||

[boreal spruce]

||other than dying ||

[hoary oar]

||I was really surprised tbh when Magolor said that he made the Dream Fork to apologize to Kirby but then it all made sense when he said he wanted to turn Kirby tiny so he'd be easier to defeat||

[echo mesa]

We do a little trolling

[spark forge]

||"If I had any single regret for the countless, horrific events that have transpired in my wake...

It's that I'm dying."||

[placid quail]

Dude, deltarune spoilers

[lament herald]

||The final boss will be him escaping the other world and reuniting with Kirby to try and kill him again||

[echo mesa]

And that's when EX Mode starts

RTDL DX is a never ending loop

[placid vigil]

||i was so devasted when galacta said "im from a matter most dark" which prompted kirby to slide||

[lament herald]

||My heart cannot take Kirby immediately forgiving someone who's wronged him with open arms. My heart would melt that would be the most wholesome moment ever, assuming its shown||

[ocean magnet]

"But Morpho Knight, you wouldn't stab a gooey!"

"Y̸̒͒e̵̟̎a̵͋̏,̸͇́ ̸͌͝i̴̿͠n̴̓͝ ̷̩̐t̵͈̆h̴̽͜ë̵́̉ ̴̆͛f̸̆̾a̶̦̎c̵̈́͘e̴̽͝,̴̯͆ ̷̞̏w̵͇͋h̵̖̕y̷̹͑?̵͆͛"

[placid vigil]

hopefully the beggining cutscene of this mode is ||graveyard with magalor's gravestone||

[echo mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/spawn-hell-hurl-through-hell-fall-to-hell-fire-gif-17250068

Opening cutscene

[lament herald]

||you have to be loved by people to get a gravestone||

[compact mica]

Final boss

[lament herald]

||it'll probably just be him floating in space like a chad||

[mellow snow]

LMAOOOOO

[feral panther]

So basically, ||local cat ear Chocolate Egg went through purgatory and rebirth in the end||

[echo mesa]

||Magolor goes to hell for being Magolor||

[compact mica]

Yeah

[feral panther]

inb4, ||Magolor gets judged by Morpho Knight for attempt to be evil||

[mighty breach]

||"You've morphoed your last knight, Morpho Knight"||

[spark forge]

"You're gonna pay, Magolor!"
"Let me be clear. I. Will never pay."

[junior copper]

“You will pay me!”

[ocean magnet]

||Galacta: "Magolor! Don't leave me here! MAGOLOR!!!"||

[hallow laurel]

"I won't pay you a visit"

[compact mica]

I owe you no debt!

[sweet lagoon]

|| why don’t you hadeez nuts||

[lofty slate]

It’s a WAHgolor time!

Evil magolor

“Betrayal is bad!”

“Friendship is more important than money!”

“Man, I hate space travel! I prefer to go by foot!”

[mighty breach]

"I hate vigor systems in games!"

[magic plover]

If nobody's done so yet I'm gonna hop over @ gamestop after work & get a closeup on the Magolor Epilogue section

bc i know my local gamestop has the boxes on display rn

[lofty slate]

The moment of truth

[magic plover]

i wanna see what the right image actually says

[lofty slate]

🙏

[worn bridge]

Bless you

[lofty slate]

Elfilis blesses you too

[placid vigil]

hopefully rtdlx doesnt get leaked like 3 days before release just like fl did

[mighty breach]

is that even legal

[magic plover]

imagine if I ask "hey can I get this" and the unknowing employee goes "yeah here"

[mighty breach]

surely the Kirby server would not encourage ilegal contract breaking activities right

[placid vigil]

fl early acess

rtdlx*

[lofty slate]

The question that’s on every Kirby fan’s mind right now: “Is Magolor Epilogue real? Or is it a hoax just like his lies??”

[magic plover]

I don't have a capture card so if that does happen enjoy 30s screenshot button clips lmao

[mighty breach]

b-b-but the ninjas

[placid vigil]

gala leaks the final boss in which its actually just a jpeg of a banana floating in the air

[magic plover]

i super inhale the ninjas

I doubt gamestop will give me but if nothing else I'll take pics of the box

[lofty slate]

Me if Magolor Epilogue was fake (me speaking directly to Magolor himself): “Would you mind not lying FOR FIVE MINUTES!?!?”

[mighty breach]

hate to be that guy but are you sure that won't put you in trouble? lol

[lofty slate]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-stop-talking-five-minutes-be-yourself-please-gif-13730564

This is me at Magolor

[magic plover]

i doubt its fake i just want closeups on the smaller text lol

[vital seal]

i wonder, if the ||magolor epilogue|| is some kind of reuse idea from the Kirby GCN era of development because it seemed to have more darker theme and the fact ||Morpho Knight|| was originally going to appear in it and we have no context how he would have fitted in that game.

[compact mica]

Kirby ||goes to hell because he's in a mid 2000s game||

[ocean magnet]

i mean, ||morpho knight may have not even have been death related lol||

[magic plover]

it should be on the employees to know not to give ppl the game early methinks

[broken smelt]

HE’S COOKING

[vital seal]

true, we just don't know how many ideas originate from that development hell of an era

[languid dragon]

If Nate was still in this server he’d be having a seizure

[compact mica]

I miss Nate

[languid dragon]

Wait I think I’m in another server with him

[mortal dock]

wait a minute ||hades is mentioned in the novels? I was wondering why people kept saying hades specifically instead of hell omg||

[spark forge]

yea

[mortal dock]

clearly I have missed a lot by not having read them lol

[broken abyss]

it's part of the novel where ||meta knight dies and goes to hades, and morpho knight is there||

[mortal dock]

||wtf that sounds metal||

[broken abyss]

there's a lot of similarities between ||the novel's interpretation and what we know of the magolor epilogue, the most notable of which is that there's parts of it that are monochrome and magolor's design is completely monochrome now||

[broken abyss]

here's the link from #kirby-adaptations if you wanna get caught up on the deepest lore ||https://theultimateultimateweapon.tumblr.com/post/650219887022800896/kirby-meta-knight-and-the-knight-of-hades||

[mellow snow]

Oh yeah I said I was gonna reread this lol

[mighty breach]

||The hell world from the screenshot however is not monochrome, but then again, the monochrome another dimension sequences now have colour too, so I dunno if it means anything||

[worn bridge]

||The floor is though||

||At least it looks like it.||

[broken abyss]

i think it's not gonna be a 1:1 version

[mighty breach]

||I think that the grey part of the floor looks grey because of yellow magolor's shadow||

[broken abyss]

the more important thing is that ||magolor looks very very ghosty||

[mighty breach]

||More ghosty than how he looked while getting teleported away, at least in the Wii version||

[worn bridge]

Indeed.

[broken smelt]

i cannot wait to see what the backgrounds are gonna look like there

[mighty breach]

Hope they're not recolours of the main mode stages

[broken abyss]

magolor ||sees his own grave||

[broken smelt]

||i bet they'll feel like hellish versions of the main levels||

[vital seal]

recolours your stage

[mighty breach]

||EVIL cookie country||

[broken smelt]

||infernal whispy woods||

[worn bridge]

||Crumbling Country||

[wooden spruce]

wait i wonder if ||this new mode is gonna be a huge lore drop of how final bosses become Soul forms||

[compact mica]

They DIE

[mighty breach]

OH MAN I JUST REALISED
||EVERY NEW BOSS IS GONNA HAVE PAUSE SCREEN LORE||

[broken smelt]

||there's no proof of this but i assume some bosses get soul forms because they just really wanna live||

||like elfilis was too pissed to die||

[broken smelt]

||there's gonna be so much new pause screen stuff||

[iron helm]

||We don't know that, most bosses in RtDL Wii didn't have any.||

[broken smelt]

mr dooter lore im ready

[wooden spruce]

||i've always been under the impression that their hatred for kirby takes over their own soul which allows them to keep living and threw whatever old ambitions they had before||

[languid dragon]

Mfw Mr. Dooter dates back to the dawn of time or something

[mighty breach]

They didn't have descriptions???

[broken smelt]

||i'd hope they take this opportunity to give them new ones though||

[languid dragon]

They’re all “What a dream battle!”

[broken smelt]

based

[compact mica]

Only certain bosses had them

[iron helm]

A few did. Grand Doomer, Landia, Magolor, HR-D3 and Galacta Knight iirc.

[compact mica]

And the ex versions

Of those listed

Hrd3s only shows up in true arena and is like a copy paste of Galactas

Or the other way round

[vital seal]

i love that HAL has become more daring with Kirby

[compact mica]

Yeah

Having ||Magolor in hell of all things|| is one of those outta the pocket things I love about Kirby

[broken smelt]

yeah these concepts they're bringing in are crazy

[compact mica]

So hoping Hal or Nintendo try to get evidence of the leak deleted just to confirm

[broken smelt]

💀 imagine being kumazaki explaining all of this to your co workers

"so you guys know about Buddhism right"

[compact mica]

The modeller who has the design the abstract thoughts of Kumazakis brain

[broken smelt]

HAL employee number 67 listening to kumazaki ramble on about mahayana buddhism

[compact mica]

Character designers when they have to change Dedede yet again

But yeah the leaks are huge

Was totally not expecting super abilities to be here that's so awesome

[mighty breach]

one back cover truly can change the world

[broken smelt]

a small section on the back of a box sparks this much speculation

[compact mica]

I like how it takes one corner to change the course of Kirby talk forever

It also confirms us a trailer

There ain't no way that's gonna be unmentioned only to show up on the back of the box

[broken smelt]

yeah if its on the back of the box than they clearly dont wanna keep it a secret

[compact mica]

It would be like if Brawl never revealed Snake or Sonic and some shmuck only finds out because they looked at the back of the box

[dull geode]

It's a secret to the 90% of people that don't look at the back of video game boxes

[compact mica]

Or anyone who goes digital like me

I ain't waiting for the game to arrive via post

[broken smelt]

digital games are less of hassle but i like seeing physical games stack up

[dull geode]

This is the first game im getting physical in while but it's only cause my mom got it for me for christmas

[compact mica]

Good present

[dull geode]

I always get digital (my sd card is in pain)

They should make the ex mode a free copy of pizza tower instead

[broken smelt]

they should wtf

[compact mica]

What is pizza tower?

[mighty breach]

just the best game you've never played

[languid dragon]

NoA watching Kumazaki reference 50 real world religions in a single mode:

[mighty breach]

you're missing out on so much

[compact mica]

Man they really should include it then if I'm missing it so much

[broken smelt]

pain

they just say "i aint reading allat"

[dull geode]

Kumazaki explaining to NOA that the inclusion of evil religious institutions and hell actually makes sense

[broken smelt]

i wonder if they comprehend the lore anyway, or just go along with whatever he tells them

[languid dragon]

The age rating when there’s a single religious reference:

The angry christian mother complaining to HAL after her child started ranting about Sukhavati:

[compact mica]

Hal just not listening and adding more funni

[languid dragon]

What’s appropriate for kids between Japan and America is so funny to me

Actually between the rest of the world and America

[compact mica]

Is Europe not a bit more like America for what's appropriate?

More closer to the Christian standard

[languid dragon]

Europe is more relaxed from what I understand

Same for Australia

[compact mica]

I find it funny the difference between how they handle swear words

[languid dragon]

“Toasty marshmallows”

[compact mica]

One acts traunatised their child is exposed to such foul devilry while the other doesn't give a shit

[mortal dock]

the fucking manga with the kirboobs because it's not seen as an inappropriate joke in Japan

[compact mica]

What's special about this line?

[languid dragon]

Flamberge tells you the flames of hell will seem cold compared to the player

In Japanese

[compact mica]

They should have kept it

[mortal dock]

that's so raw

[compact mica]

That's as raw as Metas line from that one manga

"On this holy night you act without fear of god"

[broken smelt]

Can’t wait for him to say that in a game

[mortal dock]

this one is rly good

I was gonna say "that one wouldn't even have to be censored" but Western localization is very picky about religious references

mfw cupid kirby

[compact mica]

Yeah

Especially in kid's media

[languid dragon]

Remember “Please die for our god”

[broken smelt]

Does Hyness say that

[mortal dock]

I'm honestly surprised they got away with "dark lord"

[compact mica]

Probably

[languid dragon]

In Japanese yes

[compact mica]

Hyness is funny he reminds me of the Master from Manos

[mortal dock]

lord is allowed more in kids' media more than god but still sheesh

[languid dragon]

I love how they are not allowed to utter the word “god” at all

I’m a little surprised “deity” made it through

[compact mica]

The soccer mom who complains about snowflakes when little timmys video game mentions god

[languid dragon]

Imagine if they kept the “origin of all” thing in

[compact mica]

So void created alot of the Kirby world?

[languid dragon]

All of it

[compact mica]

Wish they kept that minor tidbit in

Slightly changes the couse of the canon

A wee bit

[mortal dock]

bit off topic but makes me surprised that Pokemon got to go as far as it did with gen 4

literal church you can walk in

[worn bridge]

We have no fucking idea what Origin of all is supposed to mean in the grand scheme of things.

[mortal dock]

I hope we see more void

[broken smelt]

Man

[mortal dock]

he's too damn important to be a one off villain

[compact mica]

The void was the first thing in our universe

[broken smelt]

Void is literally the creator of SOMETHING and we don’t know what

[compact mica]

From there planets and stars emerged

[languid dragon]

Actually it’s the creator of this thing called All

[compact mica]

Oh so Void made the fuel from cars 2?

[magic plover]

Creator of the Origin 😱😱😱😱

[compact mica]

I think it was called All

[broken smelt]

Didn’t Kumazaki say he didn’t want void to be the creator of all things because they couldn’t ever top that?

[compact mica]

So Void developed Sonic Origins?

[languid dragon]

He didn’t want Void to be a god

[mortal dock]

that makes sense

[compact mica]

Talk about an L

[mortal dock]

don't want villain power creep to jump too high

[magic plover]

the interview said that he "wasn't so sure" about it

[compact mica]

Power creep?

[mortal dock]

from my limited understanding of FL (i didn't finish it) they toned it back down a little bit with elfilis

[languid dragon]

Elfilis is just some asshole

[compact mica]

Elflis is an experiment right?

[broken smelt]

Villains getting really fucking strong really fast pretty much

[compact mica]

An artificial lifeform?

[languid dragon]

Wh

[magic plover]

elfilis was experimented on, not made by humans

[mortal dock]

Yea what fry said lol I can't type my own explanation

[compact mica]

Stuff like this is why Kirby has s reputation of being some omega god slayer

[magic plover]

assuming FL ppl were human

[compact mica]

I should probably read the figure descriptions again soon

[languid dragon]

From what I remember he said the Kirby series wasn’t ready for a true “god”

[mortal dock]

I like the mystery. whoever inhabited this world they're gone now

[compact mica]

They couldn't conjure dreams in this world

So they decided to leave

[languid dragon]

Reasonable

[magic plover]

he expressed that he wasn't sure if there should be a god, it was still fairly open ended

[broken smelt]

Everyone saying Kirby bosses are gods meanwhile it can’t be decided if void is a god or not 💀

[magic plover]

exactly

people stretch the word god a lot for kirby bosses

[languid dragon]

Tbh does it really matter who and who isn’t a god

[broken smelt]

Not really ig

[languid dragon]

Many of them are quite powerful

[mortal dock]

will be preaching to the choir here but god this really makes me crave a kirby rpg. I wanna see this storytelling pushed to its full potential

[magic plover]

not that much but people constantly call everything god and that gets annoying

[sweet lagoon]

“kirby bosses are gods” what about the trees and the clouds and the block pushers and

[languid dragon]

Kirby RPG is my dream

[languid dragon]

Imagine calling Dark Nebula a god lmao

[mortal dock]

"Kirby killed a god for his cake" might just make me die one day. Like I'll fall over dead upon hearing it again

[broken smelt]

YES story telling in kirby is underrated

A villain would be so good in an rpg formula

[mortal dock]

and in an rpg you can Explore the world more freely and talk to characters and god it'd feel so good

[compact mica]

Alot of Kirbys genuinely do struggle to convey the story imo

[languid dragon]

A Kirby RPG would be batshit insane

[compact mica]

Some of them had to rely on interviews or miiverse cause they didn't have time to implement it in the game

[mortal dock]

you are not gonna know Shit about void when you play the game without reading up on lore. I think the biggest thing you're gonna get out of it is "wait he looks like kirby"

[languid dragon]

How many Kirby final bosses could you call gods?

[compact mica]

If you never paused during Robobot you would know nothing about Susie's history

And specifically on ex mode too

[languid dragon]

Or read Miiverse

[mortal dock]

haltmann would just seem like an asshole. rather than what he is, an asshole who's sad

[compact mica]

Ah yeah hold on lemme resurrect a dead website

[languid dragon]

FL is so leaps and bounds better at storytelling than the other games lmao

[broken smelt]

Most of them just have god like capabilities

[mortal dock]

I really gotta finish fl then 💀

[compact mica]

Something like Super Star conveys story beats better

[languid dragon]

Really the only one I’d call a god without hesitation is Void

[compact mica]

Since it's more simple

[languid dragon]

You’d have no idea who Marx is if you started Milky Way Wishes before the cutscene started

[mortal dock]

revenge of meta knight might be one of my favorite parts of the series in terms of atmosphere

[compact mica]

Oh yeah no that part sucks

[mortal dock]

the buildup is so good

[compact mica]

SSU making it start with the cutscene is a good change

ROMK is what I had in mind while saying that

Struggling to get on the halberd, progressively destroying it while the crew of the ship are desperate lends itself well

[mortal dock]

meta knight making a last ditch effort to take you down is just so fucking cool

kumazaki gets a lot of credit for his storytelling and rightfully so - but man sakurai cooked hard with that

[compact mica]

The reveal of Meta Knights wings is also a highlight

He never shows them before then

Also Sakurai is really good at conveying story elements

The ending of Adventure is one instance

[dull geode]

Ur a God tbh

[compact mica]

Seeing Magolor or Marx get called gods is definitely an ick

They are just some guys

[quaint osprey]

imo i think this was the biggest mistake

[hallow laurel]

you mean that the story part was only at the end

[quaint osprey]

i think what especially baffles me are haltmann pause screens in the main story

they are literally just noble haltmann lyrics?.... for some reason?...

like in tdx ex mode also had more info in their pause screens. but it was MORE INFO. not like in robobot where story mode had barely any info and ex mode had everything

[uncut oxide]

Robobot just was so messy when it came to the story

[mortal dock]

I will say noble haltmann being a recurring leitmotif as well as an actual melody that exists in universe (there's a word for specifically this that I forgot) is really cool

[uncut oxide]

it’s a really great story and one of the series’ best but it is told horribly

[quaint osprey]

i think noble haltmann lyrics worked a bit better in japanese because they had actual foreshadowing in their lyrics

but english lyrics threw all foreshadowing away because treehouse is full of Geniuses

[dull geode]

Me when I have to go to miiverse to learn why he forgot about sussy

[compact mica]

Relying on pause screens is generally why I prefer simpler stories like RTDL or dark matter games

[broken smelt]

That was actually such a story telling L lol I won’t lie

[mortal dock]

DIEGETIC that's the word

[compact mica]

Forgotten Land is a good sign for storytelling

[dull geode]

It's really bad lmfao

[quaint osprey]

i lowkey think robobot and star allies suffered so much because on one hand they crafted all of this cool story beats that they didnt want to sacrifice but on other hand they didnt have time to execute them all properly

[dull geode]

But hopefully they finally found their footing lol

[quaint osprey]

on other hand, when they CAN execute them properly