Sonic Leak Thread

[astral spear]

||Tails' fucking nerd ass powerscaling||

[long lion]

||So maybe there's meant to be subtitles? Im not gonna try and get them though lol||

[lapis tiger]

||Did you load JP version voices somehow?||

[long lion]

||Doesn't sound Japanese to me||

[lapis tiger]

ah okay

just making sure lol

[long lion]

||Could be german or something but I think they probably just have a made up language that's subtitled||

[lapis tiger]

I've had weird stuff happen with fileswaps before

[lapis tiger]

yeah that's what I would assume

[long lion]

||But it's still using the subtitles from the cutscene I replaced since you can see Eggman's line subtitled near the end||

[astral spear]

yes

[long lion]

Well if it's not gonna use the right subtitled anyway I'll try and remember to turn them off next time

Oh there's actually a cutscene here I think I'm not gonna spoil

[lapis tiger]

which one

I already seen most if not all so

[south rover]

Which one

[long lion]

post credit my guess

[lapis tiger]

oh that lol

[astral spear]

Post credit?

[lapis tiger]

||well there's inbetween scenes too iirc||

[south rover]

||https://twitter.com/frontiersleaks/status/1588303888025026560?s=46&t=mE4e8IIC-imnDOrZQnNBuA||

[long lion]

That's not the one I don't want to share

In fact I was recording it just now

[lapis tiger]

why don't you want to share it anyway

and uh what's the filename for it again I forgot

[astral spear]

I guess to preserve the novelty?

[lapis tiger]

I mean it'd be posted tomorrow anyway lol

[astral spear]

Well...yeah.

[lapis tiger]

so there's not much point really

[humble prism]

||Oh cool, Sticks is canon now, bout time lmao||

[lapis tiger]

plus I could just ask the other dataminer which one it is lol

[long lion]

True lol

[long lion]

ev6030

The actual final cutscene (tweet is cringe and wrong)

[lapis tiger]

oh this one?

[trail hamlet]

||They just fucking namedropped Sticks holy shit I love this game||

[serene pike]

show it fam

[long lion]

||Yea the one with Eggman at a gaming setup||

[south rover]

post it 👀

[astral spear]

She doesnt want to

[south rover]

dang

oh well

[lapis tiger]

||okay nevermind it's nothing special lol||

[long lion]

Yuzu stop crashing challenge

[lapis tiger]

Emulators stop crashing in general challenge

(really I wish they didn't break so much)

[long lion]

The cutscene u were asking bout earlier

[lapis tiger]

||oh Sage MVP (also rip)||

[astral spear]

||If anyone makes a pissing on the moon joke I will escort you out of this server||

[earnest quail]

||I'M PISSI-||

[long lion]

All in-game ig so no visuals?

[astral spear]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-stay-out-dont-throw-gif-19621200

[lapis tiger]

oh you can get ingame cutscenes too (well the audio)? nice

[long lion]

Well that's my guess as to why some scenes are just black in these

Oh this also got cut off. I guess I'm lucky the opening cutscene is so long that it covers most cutscenes

||Also this is that funny leaked cutscene from earlier where sonic is dying||

anywa im done for today

[lapis tiger]

okay, good night

thanks for the cutscenes

[trail hamlet]

||"Please, look after father."||

[long lion]

||Eggman calling her daughter as well 😭 ||

[serene pike]

eyo can anyone find what the other two islands are

like ik the names, just dont know like what they are

[south rover]

I’ll dm you photos

[lapis tiger]

||supposedly last two islands are just grassy plains||

[lapis tiger]

also since I didn't say earlier, if anyone is wondering ||Eggman preserves a bit of Sage supposedly, that's it, nothing much at all (we already basically knew/could assume this, but thanks for confirmation)||

||either way probably just an excuse to bring back Sage whenever they want||

[autumn drift]

||Holy shit, this slaps as hard as an hispanic mom with the chancla||

[pallid bolt]

||Fake language||

[copper flame]

||Knuckles protecting Sonic from Sage cutscene is so raw||

[tulip ingot]

just woke up and i have a lot to catch up to

[copper flame]

||It seems like they are genuinely getting into chaos emeralds lore
Wonder where they are going with this||

Also, I love that characters here actually discuss and theorize about their surroundings

[humble prism]

||Tried it on Ryujinx for about an hour, loved playing it but I’m gonna wait till Tuesday to play anymore because Switch emulation just isn’t there yet lmao||

[copper flame]

Yeah i heard switch emulation for this game is really rough rn

[humble prism]

||I basically got 2 chaos emeralds and fought Asura, so nothing special to report. Although I was extremely lucky with finding spare vault keys in the open zone, I only had to play Cyberspace 1-1 and 1-2 and those were for the tutorial||

Love how the game lets you play your own way

I wanted to ||find Big and maybe take down Squid but the emulator crashed the second I entered 1-3 and I gave up cause it’s 5 am lol||

Tuesday can’t get here soon enough

Or really Monday since I could probably play it a day early on Xbox like I did with Origins

[copper flame]

I'm sure you'll have a lot fun, I know i do

[red shell]

Ayo wtf

||sticks is canon now||

Apparently

[copper flame]

Heard of that

Good

[red shell]

||is there any pic of the final boss thing||

[copper flame]

it just hit me

||sage is basically canon version of omelette||

[astral spear]

SO TRUE

[copper flame]

||i will strangle sega if they wont bring her back after this game||

||she's already popular, once fanbase learns about her dynamic with eggman, her popularity will SKYROCKET||

also the fact that ||she considers orbot and cubot her brothers 🥹 ||

why this is so adorable

[astral spear]

||She should meet Belle||

[copper flame]

oh my god...

||if she will does end up becoming recurring, she will inevitably be added to idw||

||ian definitely had that in mind didnt he||

[copper flame]

WAIT

WAIT

||maybe this is what he had in mind with belle arc at all. maybe this is how they will insert events of frontiers. they will happen after current surge arc||

[astral spear]

I figured they were going to do this...

[copper flame]

also ngl ||i assume it's not literally what happens, but kocos dying after certain plot events makes me sad. sega are evil for marketing them as purely cutesy mascot characters lol||

that ||cutscene where amy is just sitting in the field of flowers and sad about it hits different||

[red shell]

||this will be a major parallel with shadow (both were brought back due to popularity)||

[copper flame]

||at least with sage it will feel less contrived since Sega actually put foreshadowing for that||

[red shell]

||where is the foreshadowing||

||probably didnt see that yet||

||also if sage comes back i wonder if eggman would find a way to give her the memories from this one||

||probably not||

[copper flame]

Ultrby shared that there's apparently a scene where ||it's stated that Eggman managed to recover a bit of Sage||

[astral spear]

||https://youtu.be/DEOg29eP9jA || Video showcasing some of the ||Eggman memos...the guy doesn't let the full voice line play out though argh I could listen to this voice all day||

[trail hamlet]

||Oh damn these are voiced too?||

[copper flame]

yes

most of the dialogue in the game is voiced... weirdly enough conversations with koco elders aren't, though.

[trail hamlet]

||Oh hey GUN got a mention too. I wonder if the organization is still fucked lol||

[copper flame]

||considering eggman is surprised that he sees their tech here, i assume they are||

ngl the combination of it being an actually good game with good writing and having direct callbacks to previous games in the series is a beyond surreal experience

and those callbacks actually serve a purpose and not are like chaos 0 in forces

[trail hamlet]

||You can REALLY tell this is written by Ian cause he knows his shit like||
||They even referenced Team Sonic Racing too my god||

[astral spear]

Imagine the whiplash for those who haven't read the comics, cause lowkey they prepped me for this. It's so good.

[copper flame]

tbh even reading comics didnt prepare me for this

because ive been reading ian's comics for almost a decade now

and my mind already separates them from the games (comics have good writing, games don't)

[trail hamlet]

||🚩||

[copper flame]

planet robobot vibes

[trail hamlet]

||I wonder if the Ancients here created Clockwork Stars too||

[copper flame]

top 10 anime crossovers

[trail hamlet]

||Jesus this is Eggman asmr I love how chill he sounds here lol||

[astral spear]

||Eggman Geeks out and recites lore ASMR||

[copper flame]

||entire cast sounds so much more natural and relaxed in this game||

||its especially weird with sonic and amy to me||

||knuckles actually sounds better like that lol||

[red shell]

||https://twitter.com/Return0fTheMari/status/1588527211677904897?s=20&t=V8JIxyc6M7cyndO-diUSuA|| well damn

[trail hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-loop-3d-edit-gif-24518425

[copper flame]

I sorta expected that but i don't think it's this huge of an issue. They did the best they could under the crunch of Sega's executives.

[narrow tangle]

I think we all knew that the game would still be kind of rushed

[copper flame]

Yeah

It's just more of Sonic adventure 1 rushed and less of 06/Forces rushed

[narrow tangle]

I'm just taking the best that I can from modern sega at this point 😭

Yeah

Which is still kind of unfortunate but definitely expected

[red shell]

||At least there is technically a new island for the final one!!! (I am drowning in copium)||

[narrow tangle]

||ngl. I don't mind reused level layouts I just wish the level textures were more accurate to the levels that they were reusing||

[copper flame]

Sometimes it does get creative

I finally got to play sky rails stage earlier today

It was pretty enjoyable recreation

[red shell]

||imagine if instead of 5 islands they went with the 3 islands idea but the first 2 had 2 titans each||

[narrow tangle]

||THAT WOULD BE SO COOL||

[copper flame]

||that would be raw ngl||

[red shell]

This is funny now (ending)

[copper flame]

what i think is very good is that in spite of aspects of this game being clearly rushed, they intend to follow up on this direction... and this direction is banger, so, next game already has gameplay loop more or less figured out, they just need to focus on adding new stuff and improvements

[red shell]

Maybe next time make the linear stages more unique in both visuals and level design

||and not split one area into 3||

[copper flame]

they will probably figure out pacing better yea

but this only reassures my belief that this game would be another failure if not for iizuka

iizuka is the true MVP of this story

[astral spear]

Right...

We finally have a game
That's NOT nostalgia bait centric
That's good

[copper flame]

that but i was mainly talking about how he was literally fighting the execs to give devs more time

imagine if he didn't win that battle

[earnest quail]

I dunno if I'd say that when Cyberspace exists

[astral spear]

Wheres that Sonic frontiers but with goofy meme sound effects video

[copper flame]

it's more of a fail safe than actual nostalgia bait

tbh

[astral spear]

I mean that
It's not centered on nostalgia like Mania and Generations

I didn't say it had NO nostalgia bait

[copper flame]

nostalgia bait is chaos 0 from forces

[earnest quail]

I suppose that's true

But it still feels rushed

That applies to the game as a whole

Especially with the realization that ||the final 2 islands are just portions of the first island||

[copper flame]

that is unfortunate but i understand why this happened, devs really just worked the best they could within crunch

[earnest quail]

Ik, but it's a shame how this still applies to Sonic Team

[copper flame]

sega of japan is just full of shitheads

[astral spear]

||Now the final boss being apparently rushed makes a lot more sense||

[earnest quail]

||Pretty sure it's literally just a f*cking QTE||

[astral spear]

Unfortunately so

[earnest quail]

Damn

[astral spear]

Well

[earnest quail]

||At least the other bosses seem cool||

[astral spear]

||Not that I know I've only heard but it's apparently true||

[earnest quail]

||Y'know, they finally made actually fun looking Super Sonic fights||

[copper flame]

i only fought the first one so far

it is really good

i would say a lot of bosses in the game are actually good

||which only makes final boss being rushed only logical conclusion||

i think my favorite bosses so far outside of the first titan were ||sand shark one and sumo||

just very fun fights that don't outstay their welcome once you figure out how to beat them

[trail hamlet]

||Look on the bright side, no Nega Wisp 4.0!||

[copper flame]

i was actually worried for that

[astral spear]

||Squid ||

[trail hamlet]

||Games||

[red shell]

||kronos split into 5 islands instead||

[copper flame]

oh wow they actually namedropped the islands

WHAT

[spiral grove]

how

[astral spear]

BASED????

[acoustic gale]

||guys i think sonic's gonna be in this game||

[copper flame]

so i ||beat the second titan||

||it also has a vocal theme. it also slaps. also you really have to master parry otherwise boss fight will be a pain||

||still raw as hell though||

[red shell]

||yoo, actual difficulty???||

Btw klu ||do the titans deal actual damage that takes away your rings or not||

[copper flame]

||the trick with fights is that while sonic doesn't take damage, his rings drain and titans' attacks, if you fail to dodge or parry them, will knock him off far enough that getting back to them will drain a lot of rings||

||so unless you upgraded your ring capacity or defense, these fights can get really painful really quick||

[astral spear]

Ooh

[red shell]

||oh huh||

||so kinda like the average super sonic fight it seems||

[copper flame]

||yeah but more involved because super sonic actually has attacks now lol||

[trail hamlet]

How does the movement feel so far, Klu?

[copper flame]

oh its great

when you get used to it it feels very nice

you can do very cool things while traversing

[trail hamlet]

Nice

[copper flame]

combining boost, double jump and drop dash is just mmmmm

[long lion]

Me as I continue to upload cutscenes

[spiral grove]

||"careful? where's the fun in that hahaha ()"||

[trail hamlet]

||You can see the pain in his eyes lmao||

[long lion]

:uncanny:

[trail hamlet]

||Literally the Metal Virus but arguably more painful||

[long lion]

Funny words

[trail hamlet]

||Oh boy another fictional language to learn, awesome||

[long lion]

Audio only

[spiral grove]

||are these chaos'||

[frosty wraith]

GOD DAMN IT-

[chilly gorge]

ow

[frosty wraith]

finally

[narrow tangle]

||Oddworld Character looking ahh||

[chilly gorge]

||on the subject of the ending, sadly it looks like the game is gonna go through the grinder HARD||
||which is gonna suck hard, on both the online warzone and personal enjoyment of the game||

||predicting a lot of "i told you sega was gonna fuck this up, stupid bootlicker" down the road||

[red shell]

||yo imagine if the classic sonic ufps are actually ancient uf-||

[pallid bolt]

So Sonic fans

How ready are you for the new gamer sentiment

“Sonic is finally good again”

[long lion]

At the very least it seems like the first good story since Adventure days

Dunno about gameplay yet though

[earnest quail]

IMO it seems like the first good Sonic game story... ever

Again, barring Unleashed

And the gameplay foundation does seem solid, I just hope they refine it in the next game

[long lion]

Can't say the story seems as well put together as the Adventure ones from what I've seen of it so far but obviously what I've seen is fragmented

[spiral grove]

now that people have their hands on the game does anyone know what this meant

[long lion]

||It's Sage||

[spiral grove]

i guess i can see that

thought it said zap before

[copper flame]

gameplay is fun, general writing is probably best series have seen up until this point

can't judge entire story yet though, but it's not hard to be the best since unleashed lmfao

[copper flame]

||ehh i dont think it will be that bad. people who were always intended to hate the game would do that no matter what anyway||

||even if end portion is rushed i don't think it diminishes everything else it does well||

||if anything i feel like that ending where sonic supposedly switches bodies with eggman would be the one to cause shitfire everywhere lol||

[chilly gorge]

||i think it will probably elicit a ton of "why did they drop the ball so hard that's embarrassing", which i feel could really harm the game because it seems the start went off hard and awesome, especially because it seems that's it, no 100% reward or anything else||
||realizing that there's only three fleshed out islands is gonna be a HUGE slap in the face for everyone unspoiled||

[copper flame]

||well reviewers seem to be pretty positive so far (even if no full review been released so far) so i dont think its going to be as much of an issue||

ill judge for myself when i get there

[chilly gorge]

||yeah, i do have a hunch people are blowing it out of proportion a little too much||
||still stings to learn that out||

[copper flame]

i definitely feel like its exaggerated

not the first time that happened for "controversial" series game to be leaked

[chilly gorge]

||i also feel it's just a natural backlash of the supposed content we thought the game would have, like the supposed 45+ cyberspace levels when there's only 30 (i believe)||

[copper flame]

||honestly im glad theres not any more than that lol||

[copper flame]

||just noticed that the more of that cyber corruption sonic absorbs, his idle animation changes and it looks like he's more and more in pain... goddamn lmao ||

[long lion]

https://www.youtube.com/@PissingNymph
I tried to upload the cutscenes but daily upload limit 😭

[astral spear]

Lol the channel name

[copper flame]

oh shit oh fuck

||sonic called tails "little bro" in-game 😭 ||

[long lion]

!!!!

[pallid bolt]

Fae your names are in a league of their own

[copper flame]

this and that scene where ||knuckles actively discusses that he wants to change his life-style to be more proactive after all of this is done make me feel warm and fuzzy||

[spiral grove]

||why does this game feel like its apologizing for the past few years lol||

[copper flame]

sonic be like ||bro dont worry you dont have to be alone, you have us||

i was WAITING FOR THIS FOR AGES

[spiral grove]

i really like the characterization

[copper flame]

this is basically what it is

i mean

look at this

if this is not making fun of past decade of sonic games idk what this is

[spiral grove]

whoah i never thought they'd mention that, like ever

[astral spear]

"THATS NOT FUNNY! ITS NEVER BEEN FUNNY! ITS NEVER GOING TO BE FUNNY!"

[copper flame]

i do enjoy that even though they are clearly scoffing at "meta era" they don't pretend those games never happened

they reference lost world and all

||as far as i know zavok doesn't appear thankfully||

[spiral grove]

||also what a banger name, Egg Meme 21 🤌||

[astral spear]

||Its Memo||

[pallid bolt]

||Thats what YOU think!||

[copper flame]

[pallid bolt]

||Just wait until they reveal that Zavok was Sage’s OTHER father!!!! The colorscheme matches!!!||

[spiral grove]

i cant read apparently

[copper flame]

||zavok the ancient who created chaos emeralds confirmed||

[south rover]

||Sonic mentions Zavok in passing ||

||one of his idle lines||

[copper flame]

i am ok with that

[pallid bolt]

||WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL HIM __EGG__MAN??||

[pallid bolt]

||NEVAAAAAAH||

ok fine i have to be a good boy/example

[spiral grove]

||i thought zavok was pretty good in idw||

[trail hamlet]

Same

||Probably because "you know who" wrote it lol||

[spiral grove]

#knowingsmile

[long lion]

[long lion]

So like how does this work in Japanese

[astral spear]

Does ||Eggman not go by Robotnik in JP?||

[pallid bolt]

isnt it ||エッグマン and ロボトニック||

[tulip ingot]

he does?

[long lion]

I've never heard if he took the name robotnik in Jp

[astral spear]

プロフェッサー・ジェラルド・ロボトニック

[long lion]

Ah cool

[astral spear]

Gerald is called Robotnik

So I am assuming the surname is canon in JP

[lapis tiger]

btw someone got into the PAC files 👀
if anyone wants to get into them you need HedgeArcPack supposedly (and supposedly it uses the same PAC version used in Sakura Wars from what I've been told)

[frosty wraith]

ight got to the titan boss

[red shell]

Yall

[trail hamlet]

Yall?

[red shell]

||apparently the final boss aint a qte||

[trail hamlet]

||LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[red shell]

Kinda weird though

[trail hamlet]

||Well that’s a fucking name lmao||

[red shell]

||cant believe the main villain is a purple moon||

||it all comes full cycle||

[astral spear]

||WE'RE PISSING ON THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!||

||You see I can say it now because it's actually a boss ||

[trail hamlet]

||God this is gonna be wild||

[red shell]

||i hope they at least handle this apparent shoot em up final boss well||

[trail hamlet]

||WAIT WE DIDN’T GET A NEGA WISP FINAL BOSS EITHER, WE WON BITCHES||

[red shell]

Why do i have the feeling this might become a meme eventually

[trail hamlet]

||The fact that we’re fighting a boss called The End which is literally an evil moon there are a lot of memes to make out of this||

[chilly gorge]

||wtf minecraft and mgs4 crossover???!?!?||

[chilly gorge]

||yeah the issue that this brings up is if it has the spectacle and some challenge||
||or if it's so easy to beat it's basically a qte "hold the button and it dies"||

[spiral grove]

||is its name really the end||

|| ||

||that looks sick though two planets approach the roche limit||

[narrow tangle]

|| Daroach limit ||

[red shell]

||wonder if this the end fellow has some actual character or if its just a representation of... well, the end||

[spiral grove]

||is it like an astroid thats falling towards earth the planet or is it just a malicious moon||

[red shell]

||idk either honestly||

||the only cutscene it appeared that i am aware of is the one where the end is destroyed||

||if i had to guess its an asteroid but no common asteroid would be a final boss||

[south rover]

||we’ll know in a bit somebody’s planning to stream 100% completion of the final island||

[astral spear]

Also do we know what ||the final boss music is?||

[red shell]

Not yet i believe

[south rover]

||it’s the combat trailer music||

[red shell]

Huh?

[lapis tiger]

||I would assume the boss version of I'm Here and the other 'last boss' track(s)||

[south rover]

||uh it leaked a while back, the file’s too big to upload here though||

||try checking yt ‘final boss theme’||

[astral spear]

||People were unsure if this was it...and it doesn't sound like final boss music to me||

[lapis tiger]

||the videos of the last boss track (and the variations) was taken down it seems oof||

[astral spear]

Goddammit

[lapis tiger]

||nevermind found another upload, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQFpXB4iB-Y, doesn't label the parts but good enough||

||and here's boss version of I'm Here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBppmjBTdx8, also doesn't have parts labelled unfortunately||

[frosty wraith]

ight im showing my full fight against the titan i tried to use all the skills i unlocked

[long lion]

||I thought The End was like some evil entity that possesses the moon and has power over dimensions or some stupid shit||

[astral spear]

Zmwjfnqjgbbqbgw the ending

[red shell]

||did you find that out while checking out the cutscenes||

[long lion]

Yea ig mostly from this cutscene ||which is right before The End from what I understand||

Wait no not that one

uhhhhhhh

[chilly gorge]

i choked

[trail hamlet]

LMAO

[long lion]

This one I think

[astral spear]

From the music I've heard so far ||the first Titan boss so far has been my favorite, they really popped off on this one. I hope the other Titan battle themes hold up||

[astral spear]

||https://youtu.be/mrn_Bebg3-A || ||Knight Titan|| boss footage with commentary

||THIS BOSS IS KINDA NUTS||

||Holy fuck super sonic does not fuck around in this game||

[long lion]

||Wait huh I thought sonic just collected hearts for everyone but he collects wrenches for tails?||

[astral spear]

||Yeah||

[chilly gorge]

raw

[long lion]

||MFW "Ok wrenches represent tails being a mechanic uhhhh what represents amy and sage"
"Hearts b/c gorl"||

[astral spear]

||https://youtu.be/IPYPeXl1B5w || ||Wyvern|| boss with Commentary

||DANG HE JUST THREW THE THING||

[chilly gorge]

||HE'S JUST THAT GUY||

||god those qtes are sick||

[astral spear]

||I'm so glad we get to see super sonic do more than just rush at the enemy for damage||

||He is so fucking badass here||

[earnest quail]

Mid-game minigame spoilers

||PINBALL LESGOOOOOOOO||

[astral spear]

||Yooooo sonic spinball||

[chilly gorge]

||i fucking pogged at the missile ball||
||how is he so cool||

[long lion]

||Lol the concept of the game being "All the bosses are final boss-likes" is still funny||

[frosty wraith]

now im gonna show what happens ||if you fail giganto both quick time events||

[trail hamlet]

Christ lol

[trail hamlet]

||Oh they really namedropped Super Knuckles after the Wyvern fight. Nice||

Oh yeah, so do we know ||what the deal is with that AI voice yet?||

[lapis tiger]

||from someone playing the game in another server lol||

[trail hamlet]

[copper flame]

Actually ||Sage is compatible with every type of collectible, it just depends whether or not you will find her on the island, I found her on the Ares Island and not Kronos, so I gave her Knuckles' medals instead of hearts||

[long lion]

ooh nice

[lapis tiger]

||https://www.twitch.tv/troyfutv|| oof I missed this
guy beat the game already, check VODs if you want to see stuff (assuming it doesn't get taken down)

||some credits||

||final boss/really lategame stuff, I'm Here plays||

||part of final boss is a shooter||
||some of the final boss dialogue: "Mortal, you have served your purpose. Now, face your end. I am the all-consuming void." Also "The end comes for you all."||
||btw the voice changes as the fight goes on||

||also the very small quick time event section||

||the small post credits scene||

[copper flame]

Reached cyberspace level on chaos island that is a ||recreation of green forest from sa2 with new vocal track, probably one of my favorites lol||

[rich knoll]

||required 2hu comment every time something has bullet patterns here||

[pallid bolt]

||Okay so the final boss is God from One Punch Man||

[copper flame]

||They weren't kidding when they were talking about taking inspiration from anime /hj||

[copper flame]

Chaos Island is probably the hardest island so far
Traversal is far trickier and demands you to think outside of the box sometimes

It is rewarding when you figure it out though

||I can see how this was supposed to be final island at one point||

[astral spear]

Holy shit ||Touhou||

[astral spear]

||I'm so, so glad they didn't kill her off completely. I'm all in for more Eggdad moments||

[copper flame]

||Also this would mix up dynamics in general. We didn't get new long lasting characters for a while now||

||Counting that, Frontiers has quite a bit of status quo changes actually?||

[red shell]

||i like how eggman went "thats my girl" i think its cute||

[trail hamlet]

||Same||

[red shell]

||tfw eggman cares more about his recently made ai than orbot and cubot apparently||

[trail hamlet]

||I’m watching a few clips of the final boss, this is some goofy Kirby-ass shit||

[red shell]

||oo is it on youtube yet||

[astral spear]

||I mean came you blame him, they're...not too competent||

[red shell]

||i want to see the end in action||

[trail hamlet]

||It’s on Twitch, here’s the link||

[astral spear]

||He cares a lot about metal sonic too||

[red shell]

||eggman seems to care more about his competent creations it seems||

[trail hamlet]

||https://m.twitch.tv/troyfutv/clip/FaithfulSavageSkirretDatBoi-ZsK8AgYrMT380lKN|| (Final Boss spoilers)

[astral spear]

Bro deadass said ||"What is this, Kirby?"||

[trail hamlet]

YEAH

[astral spear]

||Oh so that IS the final boss music||

||Cool||

[trail hamlet]

||The End is literally just a normal ass eldritch moon I can’t||

[copper flame]

Tbh ||Sonic had Kirby finales before Kirby had Kirby finales||

I welcome them back with open arms

[astral spear]

True

[red shell]

Wtf

||cant believe that was the final boss theme||

||oh the end seems to have the voice from the ai that was guiding sonic||

[astral spear]

||YEP, we got Magolor'd||

||Except if Magolor was a fucking lean moon||

[red shell]

||honestly i like this||

[trail hamlet]

||Damn, I knew it was sussy!!!!||

[red shell]

||i was worried that the end would only appear for the final boss||

||if this is the ai then it has more screentime than i expected||

||ngl i find the boss title card for the end kinda goofy||

||close up of the moon||

[trail hamlet]

||Remake this with the Star Allies splash screen style ||

[astral spear]

Okay I'm watching the VOD of that stream

||The boss version of I'm here is for the Supreme Titan boss fight||

||COMEDICALLY OVERSIZED GUN||

[pallid bolt]

||"I'LL SHOW YOU 'SUPREME'"||

[red shell]

Listening to ||knight||'s theme

At one point the lyrics go ||this is the end of the show||

Wonder if thats foreshadow or a stretch

[trail hamlet]

||Lmao there’s a scene where Sage is telling Eggman how the Titan kicked Sonic’s ass and he’s just losing it||

[copper flame]

Yeah that cutscene is great

Never thought that ||Eggman essentially having a daughter would feel so natural||

[astral spear]

Omg I need to see this

[copper flame]

WAIT
||SAGE IS EGGMAN'S BOWSER JR||

[astral spear]

||Wait...holy SHIT you're right||

[pallid bolt]

||they saw Omelette and said "yeah we can do that"||

[trail hamlet]

||I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT LMAO||

[red shell]

||now we wait for classic sage||

||also ngl how tf does one see a completly different character in that sprite because i cant see it||

[copper flame]

i can see it if i squint

[red shell]

Oh btw klu how far did you get in frontiers

[copper flame]

still on chaos island

its harder to traverse so im making less progress

but i reached stuff i havent seen in any previews at least

there's ||another chase sequence caused by sage, where you have to use squid's path to run away from instakill enemy||

[chilly gorge]

so for the final boss i guess the reason people are calling it an||anti climax is because it's just the static shooter and the qte finisher (only based on the images above)||
||which I understand since after the other bosses this would feel like a major downgrade||

[red shell]

I hate how ||the end is just a purple moon how will i be able to make cool art of it that way||

[pallid bolt]

||big moon||

[pallid bolt]

||you could remake this manga cover||

[red shell]

||wtf the iris from gemini home entertaiment||

[copper flame]

https://twitter.com/LittlePlanetCD/status/1588794069102505985?t=mzZOK_DU6PqrtIOGmzbFTQ&s=19

🌟 ᴄᴏꜱᴍɪᴄ ᴇᴛᴇʀɴɪᴛʏ 🌟 (@LittlePlanetCD)

people cancelling their preorders of Frontiers because someone beat it in 19 hours

You guys do realize that the 20-30 estimate to beat the game was for casual players, right?

Also, Sonic Forces can be beaten in less than 4 hours. Frontiers is longer.

Y'all need to stfu LOL

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I hate Sonic fans!!!

How is 19 hours is an unacceptable length for Sonic game lmao

[astral spear]

Sonic fandom do not be insufferable challenge

[spiral grove]

idk if my standards are low but i thought acceptable game lengths were like 5 or 6 hours

[tulip ingot]

but like

isnt the game twice as long when trying to go for a 100%

which would make it around 40-60 hours lol

thats pretty fuckin lengthy for sonic and just games in general

[trail hamlet]

Okay I’m watching the final boss stream and ||it’s just Touhou what the fuck||

[earnest quail]

||WAIT WHAT||

||LMAOOOOOOOOO||

[astral spear]

It is literally ||Touhou||

[tulip ingot]

incredible

[red shell]

Sonic fans when someone beats frontiers in 19 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds (its not 20-30 hours like promised)

[red shell]

||dark gaia mention||

[copper flame]

it's not that out of the blue

a lot of the bosses in the game have bullet hell elements surprisingly enough lol

[astral spear]

You're right

[red shell]

Also

||there's a minigame in chaos island with the same gameplay kinda||

[lapis tiger]

supposedly game got an update (but I have no idea what it has)

[red shell]

Retextured the fourth island!!!!! (Lol as if)

[lapis tiger]

oh also idk if this was ever mentioned here ||(answer to the question "do tails and knuckles ever interact" btw)||

[red shell]

I dont think that part was shown just yet

Also ||does anything major story related happens in the fourth island aside from that cutscene||

[copper flame]

probably day 1 patch things

[lapis tiger]

yeah, wonder what they changed/fixed though

[copper flame]

ill probably install it now, i wonder if i will be able to tell any differences

its 96 mb

[red shell]

||i'm curious to see the full lore of the end||

||despite the goofy ass moon design it seems like a menacing entity||

[lapis tiger]

||btw no commentary video of final boss, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5TqXH5ABo, hopefully it doesn't get taken down||

[red shell]

||i cant understand jackshit of what its saying when the voice gets distorted||

||wish there were captions||

[lapis tiger]

||I can understand most of it but yeah lol||

[red shell]

||i think its saying stuff like its motivations, maybe backstory||

||but i cant understand shit||

||watching this makes me wish this was more like previous super sonic fights||

||like damn even a titan isnt as big as the end||

[lapis tiger]

||I tried to transcribe it, but there's some parts I'm a bit unsure about (marked with a (?)). Don't think last line is in the no commentary video, not sure if there's anything after||

[trail hamlet]

||Damn what a salty-ass planet||

[astral spear]

HOW (This meme is getting old fast)

[lapis tiger]

||lol I've seen people actually think that||

[earnest quail]

||WAIT||

||Stupid theory time||

||What if the Phantom Ruby originated from it?||

[red shell]

||the end is one petty mf goddamn||

[lapis tiger]

||okay line that gets cutoff in no commentary video by the laser seems to be "I saw your life, what courage you have abrade(?) you." Have no idea what that one word is supposed to be though, I doubt it's supposed to be abrade||

[copper flame]

||https://youtu.be/0_R-d48ZPMQ|| finally got to this song

this minigame is actually pretty darn fun

[lapis tiger]

||also idk how I forgot the "I am nothing." part after "I am infinite. " lol||

[red shell]

https://vxtwitter.com/Memey_PW/status/1588755194011332609

Lmfao

[lapis tiger]

expected people to do stuff like that lol

[copper flame]

i think this is cool ngl

[lapis tiger]

yeah, shortcuts/skips like that are cool

[pallid bolt]

||"What can one mote of golden light illuminate what" something something||

||its very difficult to make out, you're right||

||"Brought to order. To neutrality. To nothing"||

||"I saw your mind as you ran through my prison."||

[red shell]

||wonder if by that it means starfall islands became some sort of prison from the end||

[pallid bolt]

||"I am infinite. I am nothing."||

||"You will struggle as so many have done before."||

[red shell]

||i am so glad that the end actually has some sort of personality and isnt just a big ass rock wandering around||

[pallid bolt]

||"My captors burned their souls into me to fuel their engines"||

[lapis tiger]

||yeah some of that makes more/just as much sense||

[pallid bolt]

||kinda sounds like Frontiers is setting up a bigger bad for the series going forward, thats cool ||

[lapis tiger]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bXkk2GzwZk|| also more footage of Frontiers with Japanese voices

[red shell]

||the end finna become sonic's new nemesis||

[trail hamlet]

||PETTY ASS SPACE ROCK||

[lapis tiger]

||maybe, makes you wonder why they locked this fight (and all the dialogue) behind hard mode if it's so important lol||

||supposedly post-credits scene is locked behind hard mode as well, idk why they did it in this kind of game||

[long lion]

THIS IS

NOT WHAT I THOUGHT YOU GUYS MEANT

||WHEN YOU SAID THE FINAL BOSS WAS TOUHOU||

[lapis tiger]

lmao

[red shell]

||wonder if you can switch between difficulties during the game||

[lapis tiger]

||you can||

[red shell]

||oh good||

[earnest quail]

||Oh sh*t, I'm gonna suck ass in the final boss if it's really just Touhou||

[red shell]

||imagine wanting to fight the true final boss then you realize "damn i'm on normal mode"||

[earnest quail]

||Never played it before in my life||

||And the few other vertical shooters I have played, I sucked ass at||

[red shell]

||have you played undertale||

[earnest quail]

||Yea||

[lapis tiger]

||I mean most people won't even know of it on first playthrough unless they were spoiled beforehand||

[red shell]

||close enough then||

[trail hamlet]

||Very Hard mode has an extra phase where The End turns into a cute girl with crazy-ass music playing and insane attack patterns||

[earnest quail]

||But save for the Genocide bosses, that felt pathetically easy||

[astral spear]

Lmfaoooo

[earnest quail]

||Like, really tame for a bullet hell||

[lapis tiger]

||don't think the hard mode thing to get extra final boss phase and different ending stuff is mentioned ingame at all lol||

[earnest quail]

||So I'm not sure that'll be good enough experience||

[long lion]

||What can one ??? of golden light illuminate within your ????|| is what I'm hearing as well

[red shell]

||nightmare mode where there's an extra phase where girl the end becomes a fumo||

[long lion]

I'm hearing ||all fell to me rather than all found to be||

[lapis tiger]

||that probably makes more sense, why didn't they give us subtitles for this lmao||

[long lion]

I'm hearing ||all the teaming chaos and creation, brought to order, to eternity, to nothing.||

[red shell]

||i hope there's a patch eventually that adds subtitles||

[trail hamlet]

||The sheer presence of it deletes your save file||

[long lion]

Also think it says ||I saw your mind rather than I saw your live||

[red shell]

||then hyperrealistuc blood comes out of your tv||

[long lion]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-clownpiece-touhou-project-danmaku-bullet-hell-gif-23327916

[copper flame]

||there are subtitles actually, they are toggable in the options||

[long lion]

Pretty sure it's ||you will be consumed like all those before you||

[lapis tiger]

||this fight doesn't have them though||

[copper flame]

oh

that's weird

[chilly gorge]

I guess the big thing is everyone getting mad because it was said that ||it was gonna be a like a 60 hour game and stuff, like the idea of five full islands and more cyberspace levels||
||so they feel like sega lied to them||

[copper flame]

they said to begin with that it's going to be around 20 hours though

[long lion]

||WAIT IT LITERALLY DOES THE CLOWNPIECE LASERS YOU'RE JOKING||

[trail hamlet]

Bruh lmao

[copper flame]

oh my god lmao

[trail hamlet]

||The Egg Nega Wisp format will now be replaced by Touhou in the following games lol||

[long lion]

||aw hell nah next sonic final boss is a door||

[lapis tiger]

lmao
||they really looked at Kirby final bosses and Touhou and thought 'hmm we should do something like this'||

[pallid bolt]

||Ofc the robobot fan would enjoy a sudden drastic shift to a space shooter for only the final boss /j||

[lapis tiger]

||there's even a quick time event section at the end (though it's really small) lol||

[long lion]

||You imply I like robobot and I think this looks good neither of which are the case ||

[pallid bolt]

[red shell]

||hello, actual robobot fan here||

||i quite do not enjoy the sudden shift||

[earnest quail]

||Another fellow robobot fan here||

||I don't know if I like this or not||

||It's the same thing as Robobot, on the one hand it's hype AF||

[long lion]

||Kirby is (was) a 2D game switching to a genre with more dimensions. This is a cinematic 3D game turning into a STG that literally looks like ZUN could've made the graphics look 90% as good as this 🤡||

[earnest quail]

||On the other hand I wouldn't say it has as much weight to it as it could have as a result||

[lapis tiger]

||I just wish there was more to final boss (especially on easy/normal)||

[earnest quail]

||Quick question tho: is this fight really hard mode exclusive?||

[copper flame]

||i will say this, it seems like it's literally an expansion on minigame where you hacked into eggman's computer||

[earnest quail]

||It is LOL||

[lapis tiger]

||yes, credits themes change too I believe||

[copper flame]

i can commend them evolving the mechanic instead of just introducing it randomly at the last moment

[lapis tiger]

||supposedly easy/normal only gets the quick time events||

[copper flame]

oh that explains why ||some people talked about how final boss felt underwhelming||

only one difficulty includes the whole deal

good to know, ill just switch right near climax lol

[lapis tiger]

yeah and nothing indicates it lol

[pallid bolt]

||I think this final battle could be a question of budget. It's likely Flynn wrote the draft like "And then Sonic and Sage take to space to combat The End, a massive sentient moon." and then the game designers had to figure out how to make that battle plausible and playable.||

[copper flame]

||yeah i wouldnt doubt that its combination of budget and crunch cuz sega is funny like that||

[long lion]

||I mean clearly the fight with the titan that Sage is piloting is the actual final boss game-wise and The End is just a story thing and is more like a bonus minigame for hard difficulty but uh. It's a bad look.||

[pallid bolt]

||i actually do like it from a design perspective ||

||a massive god moon that hints at the future is pretty cool ||

[long lion]

||You do fight the bot sage is piloting before The End don't you||

[pallid bolt]

||oh my god its Void Termina done right 💀 ||

[copper flame]

eh

a bad look is reusing the same final boss 3 games in a row

[lapis tiger]

||even that fight's pretty short from what I've seen lol||

[long lion]

||How does that have anything to do with what I'm saying||

[pallid bolt]

||think its a dig towards previous games?||

[copper flame]

nvm actually i just misread the message

[long lion]

||The problem here is that people are perceiving The End as the final boss. Instead of just an ending sequence. It'd be like if people played FL and the game made people feel 'wow why was the final boss me just driving a truck and then mashing buttons'||

[copper flame]

but yeah they did reuse sonic colors final boss a bunch lol

[long lion]

||The way they framed things makes it feel like the game has an underwhelming final boss||

[copper flame]

yeah i get your point now

[astral spear]

Yes

||Comedically large pistola||

[long lion]

Lmao

[lapis tiger]

||okay Supreme fight only takes about 3:10 (note that this is on hard though)||

[chilly gorge]

||i guess it's more because sonic hasn't really done that||
||and i feel the issue is that sonic has had that reputation of at least having grandiose and/or hype ending battles, easy or not||
||having a more "victory lap mini game" would be pretty polarizing to many||

[copper flame]

titan fights so far actually were pretty difficult for me to beat quickly but it might just be my skill issue lol

unless ||supreme|| is significantly harder

er i mean easier

[long lion]

||That's an oof. Does look like Supreme is not any more special than any other boss fight in the game and then The End is more like an ending sequence (Or a bonus minigame in Hard mode) that they glorify as a boss (Which makes it very underwhelming)||

[chilly gorge]

yep

[astral spear]

||Can you even die VS The End||

[long lion]

||So either way they kinda tripped at making a finale for the game imo but still it's not as bad as 'final boss is a cheap looking 2D shooter' or 'final boss is just QTE', more like 'final boss isn't any more special than regular boss and then The End is also there'||

[lapis tiger]

||in the shooting phase, yes (you have to restart whole fight), idk about in the quick time events though||

[astral spear]

||Unfortunate that the game had to buckle somewhere but the final boss isn't the worst place to do so||

[lapis tiger]

||yeah, I just wish easy/normal had more stuff at least||

[red shell]

WAIT

||RIFLE!!||

||THATS RIFLE||

[copper flame]

||here's hoping now that they have new direction figured out the sequel will improve upon that in particular =)||

[lapis tiger]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1giwHCYqCJU oh finally the gameplay of fourth island (Rhea) was uploaded to Youtube||

[copper flame]

||especially since its clear they know how to make banger bosses its just. money time crunch issue probably||

like this game probably has biggest quantity of bosses in a while and a lot of them were fun

[lapis tiger]

||yeah there was definitely issues with time/budget||

[astral spear]

I am sad about one thing in particular. ||The End is literally just the moon but shaded purple.... they could've made it interesting like giving it clouds or seas of corrupion or make it look volcanic but no, its literally the moon but ourple||

[chilly gorge]

||discussion is gonna be a warzone||
||even more now||

[copper flame]

it was going to be either way

its a new sonic game. Lmao

not really worthwhile thing to worry about if you ask me

[red shell]

Huh

So ||rhea is a story centered island||

||no titan apparently||

[lapis tiger]

yeah

[chilly gorge]

im just a little more sad because I know that ||these reveals are gonna make a lot of excited people unhappy, or at the very least confused||

[copper flame]

||basically last story of adventure games||

[copper flame]

||probably due to having my expectations tempered because with sonic team you expect some sort of fuck up, i don't see it as this much of a dealbreaker. it's an issue but it doesn't really diminish other aspects game does well. and it wouldn't really make discussion any less toxic than it will end up being because sonic fans||

[pallid bolt]

||i prefer thinking of Sage as the "final boss" of the game and The End as the overarching, true antagonist||

[lapis tiger]

||well there's still 5th island, so not really 'last' of course, but yeah||

[chilly gorge]

you're right, but man these people are gonna be more vocal than ever of how ||sega messed up and stuff||
and even then with the ||mindset of knowing something is going to go bad, I feel fans would think more of the physics or cyberspace levels being screwy and unpolished than the content and flow of the islands or the final battle||

[red shell]

||except there's a 5th island||

||that is gameplay based apparently||

[copper flame]

interesting

perfect screenshot to summarize the game ngl lmao

[chilly gorge]

yea

[copper flame]

god one aspect i was actually worried about is amount of story cutscenes

but theres a lot of them and i love em

also uhhh if anyone cares at this point

sonic indeed has m||omentum||

physics can get janky sometimes but basics of him getting slower and faster depending on the terrain are there

[chilly gorge]

sonic fans when ||sonic frontiers has momentum but they dont like it because sonic looks weird when flying (it's not momentum it's just buggy physics)||/j

[astral spear]

Reminder that this game could've been WAY worse.

I.e. Releasing in 2021

[copper flame]

if it was released in 2021 i doubt it would be any good lol

literally godbless iizuka he saved the damn game

i think my favorite interaction between sage and sonic at the moment

also ||proud father moment||

[long lion]

||I am regurgitating this opinion I heard but I completely agree, from what I can tell no one actually acknowledges Sage dying at all besides Eggman and like.
Literally why. What is the point of a noble sacrifice in a story if no one acknowledges it||

[red shell]

||why would there be no point i wonder||

[red shell]

||sage looks so happy from that acknowledgement||

[pallid bolt]

||ok so what in the world was with that bodyswap leak then lol - what a meme||

[astral spear]

||That is the most sinister kind of leak I've ever seen||

[red shell]

||me when i purposefully spread misinformation on the internet||

[pallid bolt]

||>leaks everything correctly

makes up something batshit insane for the finale
refuses to elaborate
drifts into the online aether||

[astral spear]

||Either it deliberately made the ending seem super controversial so when the game leaks, dread would build up as you played the game, or it was straight up an unused concept||

[red shell]

||aether??? Like the metroid prime 2 planet????||

[pallid bolt]

||no like fire emblem ||

[nocturne quarry]

|| Like Minecraft Aether ||

[copper flame]

man... i love them

[trail hamlet]

||Good character interactions you love to see it||

[copper flame]

this game just makes me smile as sonic fan, yknow

i feel heard, acknowledged, even

[red shell]

||the character interactions are awesome but i'm a bit worried about the actual main story. Ive seen a bunch of people say the story stays in the background for a good chunk of the game||

[copper flame]

||i don't agree with this take, it slowly builds up pretty naturally so far. story is also more primarily character-driven which helps||

[red shell]

||>primarily character-driven||
||maybe thats why people say the story is in the background||

[copper flame]

maybe lol

||but i dont think its a bad thing in the least, since sonic's strength in stories were always characters, imo. they have cool lore too for those who like lore||

[trail hamlet]

||I’m watching the Tails cutscene where he laments on how he’s been a burden the past few adventures, and when Sonic tells him how he’s stop the missile in Station Square, broke him out of Prison Island, or saved him from the Deadly Six he just says "I’m widely inconsistent" lmao||

[lapis tiger]

This is what someone told me (doubt I need to tag this, but tagging anyway)

[copper flame]

So I finished Chaos Island, two things:

||1) Finisher of the third titan, Knight, is raw as hell, Super Sonic grabs it's giant sword and slices him in half||

||2) Fourth Island indeed looks the same as Kronos aesthetically, but, gameplay and story goal so far make it stand out, and it does have different music track||

||Also it has the most demanding 3D platforming sections thus far||

[copper flame]

WHAT

HUGE LORE SPOILERS I GUESS IF SOMEONE HERE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW

||CHAOS EMERALDS CAME FROM FUCKING SPACE||

||THEY ARE ALIEN||

[pallid bolt]

||Honestly it checks out||

||inb4 they’ll make the chaos emeralds/master emerald landing on Earth the catalyst for the evolution of anthropomorphic animals in the sonic universe||

[copper flame]

Funny thing is ||master emerald was always on earth, it seems like it's connection to chaos emeralds is a mystery for now. Master emerald is the whole reason why kocos crashed on Earth in the first place huh||

||Because it's energy gravitated them to Earth||

[pallid bolt]

||Saw a video of Knight in action

Wtf is that movement||

[astral spear]

||Bro is doing the cha cha slide||

[copper flame]

notable egg memos. both in lore and in funnies

[astral spear]

||Damn that Ian wasn't lying, he do humanize the eggman||

[copper flame]

Also I'm so happy that ||visual similarity with Chaos was acknowledged||

For the first time in a long time we get actual Sonic lore that actually enhances previous games

[trail hamlet]

||It’s so weird seeing Eggman himself acknowledge Maria lol||

[copper flame]

||game with no shadow but with maria acknowledgement? truly insane||

[trail hamlet]

||I still wonder how Eggman feels about his Grandfather nearly killing him and the entire planet||

[astral spear]

||> Eggman: As a child, I looked up to my grandfather because of all the great things he accomplished in his life. He was my hero, and I wanted to be a great scientist like him. But... did he really mean to destroy us?||

||He was probably betrayed by that||

[trail hamlet]

||Jesus, I forgot about that line lol||

[red shell]

||eggman seems to have some issues due to maria apparently being more loved than he was||

||or maybe i'm understanding that log wrong||

[astral spear]

Huh...

[copper flame]

yeah most likely

||maybe this is the root of his egocentric tendencies||

[red shell]

||finally, motivations||

[copper flame]

this game gave more dimensions to every character than anything since sa2

[astral spear]

||Memo 19 is also super interesting too||

[copper flame]

||Eggman wants to be a parent hehehehe||

god i ||sense so much Eggdad and Sage content in the future||

[red shell]

This actually brings a question

||is nega an organic lifeform...?||

[copper flame]

🤯

||imagine if all eggman lineage afterwards are just AIs that keep building their offspring||

[red shell]

||unless eggman got some bitches later down the line that may actually be likely||

[astral spear]

||Nah Eggman has no time for bitches||

[pallid bolt]

||"And i shit you not, Sage told me a joke about Sonic being an instant loser, funniest shit ive ever heard"||

[copper flame]

AISODAISJDASD

[astral spear]

||Oh yeah its sonic reading these btw||

||I wonder how he would react to that joke||

[copper flame]

okay but this is hilarious

||sonic reading eggman's diary lmfao||

||eggman's diary he bought off big no less||

once eggman learns that ||big will become one of his arch enemies||

[trail hamlet]

||I am afraid to know how Big got his hands on those||

[astral spear]

||"WHO POSTED MY DIARIES ON TWITTER DOT COM?!"||

[red shell]

Shit where's that ms puff pic

[trail hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-ask-questions-you-arent-prepared-to-handle-the-answers-to-mrs-puff-sponge-bob-battle-for-bikini-bottom-gif-24579077

[astral spear]

||"Oh no! They made it all the way to the fucking islands!"||

[astral spear]

SHE LOOKS HORRIFIED IN THE GIF

[trail hamlet]

What was even the context for this gif lol

[copper flame]

spongebob asks why he has to collect game's main collectible and mrs puff reacts like that

[trail hamlet]

Huh.

[red shell]

No i think it was asking why ms puff needed spongebob to collect smth she wants

[copper flame]

yeah thats basically what i said

i just didnt remember if it was general or puff specifically

[copper flame]

||tbh i cant say that last two islands are disappointing in terms of content. visually they could've been more interesting but in terms of story and stuff they actually are about as enjoyable as the rest of the game. ||

[chilly gorge]

that's good to hear

[copper flame]

one thing that is actually very good is that every island introduces new enemies that keep you on your toes

||so yeah including last one obviously, there are some enemies and mini bosses that i didnt know about at all||

[chilly gorge]

nice

||people were making it seem like the last two were glorified cutscenes||

[copper flame]

nah

||4th one is actually very cool because its focused on one specific goal, to turn off 6 towers and the way to each tower is a long challenging obstacle course that tests every skill you learned over the course of the game||

like its genuinely some of the hardest 3d platforming in any sonic game imo but its not unforgiving or cheap

probably hardest game in the series since unleashed

[red shell]

I never got that impression
The impression i got was that ||they were way too similar to the first island||

||which may be true for the 4th||

[copper flame]

||they visually are similar but like, while you play the game it didn't bother me in the least||

||considering both of them combined are like climax of the game it feels like its bookending entire experience basically||

[red shell]

||wish they at least had unique aesthetics||

[copper flame]

yeah tbh... thanks sega execs

[astral spear]

||Imagine a swamp or forest with giant trees||

[copper flame]

that would rule ngl

[copper flame]

https://twitter.com/iulian2043/status/1589044633996492803?s=20&t=HdJ0mb4yYKFo3pCeKYxC3Q

iulian204 (@iulian2043)

What do we have here? 👀
#SonicFrontiers #Sonic #SonicTheHedgehog

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people are insane lmao

[chilly gorge]

||okay so watching the first 3 bosses, I think Wyvern is my favorite of both fight and theme||

[copper flame]

||yeah wyvern is raw||

||though knight has the best finisher no doubt||

like man. ||sonic taking giant sword and slicing him? this is fucking peak fiction||

[astral spear]

||Sonic also literally does this||

[copper flame]

YEAH

god i missed raw sonic moments so much

[chilly gorge]

they are definitely gonna be amazing to watch

||another thing that I like about Wyvern is that it feels like a proper modernization of the chaser super sonic bosses, ala Doomsday and True Area 53||

[copper flame]

its also pretty challenging

id say its the hardest out of all titan bosses i fought

you either ||master parry or you die lol||

[chilly gorge]

||i wonder how many people are gonna get the parry into the Giant Swing animation||

||since what i've seen, the attack isn't really clear to be parried||

[copper flame]

||from what i noticed almost every attack in the game can be parried so if player already figured that out they should get clued in||

[long lion]

||Ohhh right Sage isn't just Shadow 2 on a meta-level huh.||

||I am hyperventilating at the thought of Sage and Shadow interacting in the future||

||Like I seriously had a thought like 'well Eggman was kind of like the father figure to Shadow except not really guess that was Gerald and now Eggman is developed as a father again that's funny' and never connected the dots I feel stupid||

[pallid bolt]

||INTRODUCING

MARIA.... 2!||

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703

[copper flame]

||in hindsight it now makes sense why this game has no shadow at all LMAO||

[long lion]

||Yea but the thing I'm getting at is like
What relationship will Shadow and Sage have if any||

[copper flame]

||100% hook for a sequel in terms of character interactions||

[long lion]

||Like yea Shadow doesn't really have any familial relationship to Eggman past SA2 or Shadow the Hedgehog at most but like
What if Sage and Shadow end up like siblings or some shit||

[long lion]

||Ok but like what excuse will we use for her to keep her red/black color scheme instead of the blue one||

[copper flame]

||the most obvious is to make her change color schemes depending on her mood or something||

[long lion]

||Rebellious teen Sage that chooses to be red and black on purpose||
||Eggman who actually can't remember why he even made sage blue when everything he makes is red||

[copper flame]

TRUE

[astral spear]

Wait a minute

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fishman-gif-22969203

So
Uh
||What was the deal with her?||

||She ain't in the game||

[long lion]

||Who the fuck is that beside her what is this||

[copper flame]

mr pickles

from sonic unleashed

i think that was his name

[astral spear]

Mr Pickle

[copper flame]

ah

[red shell]

||Greatest fatherly mind i ever knew||

[astral spear]

Wait no his name is PROFESSOR Pickle

[copper flame]

his name is PROFESSOR pickle

insert screaming cosmo image here

[trail hamlet]

Professor Pickles is a real mvp tho

[copper flame]

https://twitter.com/VersaDile/status/1589346886330322947?s=20&t=ofhBj94MbPwamLWWxN9e3Q

🐊𝕍ersaĐile🐊 (@VersaDile)

✅[NO SPOILERS FOOTAGE]✅

Please Like and RT to show people the TRUE potential. There's been too much bad gameplay lol.

THIS GAME IS AMAZING BRO 🔥

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Twitter · Nov 6, 2022, 8:00 PM

people showing off real potential of gameplay

nah fr sega nailed sonic's movement for the first time in decades

[lapis tiger]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3Tx_WBtWY final boss on easy/normal (just to show there is no shooting phase there), also in French||

[red shell]

||i'm interested in seeing what the 5th island is like as a whole||

||seems like there might be some eggman and sonic interactions there||

||i want to see their relationship more fleshed out here||

[astral spear]

Oh my god
Oh my fucking God
||Is Sage's hair supposed to resemble an Eggshell||

||More specifically, a cracked eggshell||

[earnest quail]

Final boss music spoilers
||https://youtu.be/j8jTOFRZtps||

||THIS GOES SO F*CKING HARD||

[red shell]

||https://youtu.be/OCcYQhQC484|| ayo

[pallid bolt]

||No way Sage is made of Elden Ring||

[copper flame]

i commend them at least not showing any real spoilers in the thumbnail

[red shell]

||family born of love???? As in the ending theme????? Yooooo!!!!!||

[red shell]

(Final titan) holy shit

[copper flame]

So I finished Sonic Frontiers

I think I'm definitely settled on 8/10 score. Climax on hard difficulty actually feels more or less satisfying and complete

||Ending shots contrast of Sonic returning to his friends with them all being happy while Eggman is all alone is pretty powerful||

[red shell]

||there's also the post credit scene for hard mode only right||

[copper flame]

Yeah

||Where it's suggested that Eggman can bring back Sage basically||

[red shell]

||i'm glad that eggman could end up reasonably happy instead of depressed||

[copper flame]

||And I am glad that Sage will probably return||

She's the best new Sonic character in... Forever idk

I don't know what's the last new game character I genuinely liked

[red shell]

The last one for me was probably heavy king or heavy magician
But if we talking about modern sonic only

Idk either

I'd say chip but i havent seen much of him to say that

[copper flame]

Chip is alright but I'm not sure if i liked him as much as Sage

But he's certainly last character that felt developed at least

Lol it's surreal hearing Vandalize in-game after i listened so much to it while waiting for frontiers

[red shell]

By the by

Whats even the context for ||the final titan||

I didnt understand that bit

[copper flame]

||The End was inhabiting it, but defeating it only led it to breaking out||

||Btw while final titan isn't the hardest it was still a really fun fight and that shot where it grows angel wings is raw||

[red shell]

||Oh so it really is a final boss phase 1||

[copper flame]

Yup

[red shell]

||its nice to know that there is some sort of normal super sonic fight against the end||

[copper flame]

So Arcade Mode as everyone thought is just a convenient menu where you can play every cyberspace level in the game

[red shell]

Are there a lot of original cyberspace layouts

[copper flame]

There were few levels i didn't recognize

Mostly with the city theming

Very very last level has ||Sonic riding a skateboard|| and this is not a thing I remember from any prior game lmao

Like he had ||a snowboard a few times|| but that's different

[red shell]

||city escape classic||

[copper flame]

Ahhhhhh

Been a while

[red shell]

Is it 2d tho

[copper flame]

Nope it's fully 3d level

[red shell]

Ah

||so its not a recreation||

[lapis tiger]

||video I saw seemed like it had that on normal/easy too||

[pulsar cedar]

Spoilers for late game (when I have no clue but definite beyond the halfway point) ||The ancient civilization brought the chaos emeralds to Earth/Moebius (at this point I have no idea what they want for this world) and seem to be liquid beings with big eyes... are they the ancestors of the chao?||

[long lion]

||No eggman says they're relatives of Chaos that have mutated due to being exposed to some energy, so they'd be descendants right||

[copper flame]

Yup

[pulsar cedar]

I still don't get how chao go from fairies to water creatures to freaking water dragons

[long lion]

I mean have you seen the stupid things chao turn into that are still considered chao

[pulsar cedar]

like I get the process, chaos energy, but chao don't have a water theme on (beyond hanging out at chao gardens with water fountains)

(spoilers to the late game reveal) but hey its cool that they are finally ||building upon old game lore|| finally

[earnest quail]

Cyberspace spoilers

||So as it turns out, they saved all the original stages for the final island||

[lapis tiger]

||isn't there only one original stage?||

[earnest quail]

||Nope, 6||

[lapis tiger]

||oh which ones||

[earnest quail]

||From what I can remember, 3 of them were City stages, 2 were Chemical Plant stages, and 1 was a Green Hill stage||

||And save for one of the stages only being 40 seconds long, they're actually really good||

||Like, genuinely good stages with multiple unique pathways||

||...SO WHY AREN'T THEY ALL ORIGINAL?!!||

||This proves Sonic Team can still make good linear stages, why not make all of them original?||

[copper flame]

||probably due to focus on the open zone||

||but yeah i also noticed that final island had the best cyberspace levels and i couldn't tell if they were new or not||

[earnest quail]

||6 were, 2 weren't||

[copper flame]

but like this genuinely makes me happy because one part of me was afraid that they fell back on reusing layouts cuz they couldnt do better than forces

thankfully it means that they can

[earnest quail]

I mean, Forces also had some good stages

Just not enough, and unlike Frontiers where it was only a portion of the game, there it was the entire game

So the linear stages being overall mediocre means the entire game is just kinda mediocre

[copper flame]

yeah i suppose

its just i think i genuinely prefer all stages i deemed as entirely new even over ones that were reused

tho reused ones from sa2 go hard

i think narrative justification is that

||eggman and sonic's friends are technically "out" of cyberspace by that point so they aren't based on anyone's memories anymore||

[earnest quail]

Maybe it has to do with the fact SA2 controls like ass and Frontiers doesn't

[copper flame]

maybe lol

i genuinely adored how they recreated sky rail especially

[earnest quail]

But FR, "ass" may be an exaggeration

But I still think SA2 just doesn't control well, especially not compared to SA1

Frontiers, however, does seem to control well

Maybe not as well in Cyberspace as in the open world, but hey, at least the homing attack works in it

Seriously, the homing attack never f*cking worked in SA2

[pulsar cedar]

question with spoilers click and answer only if you know the full game and would like to answer ||what is the meaning of the mysterious symbol seen in the marketing ||

[copper flame]

||it's sage||

[earnest quail]

||Death||

||I think||

||I think it symbolizes the Koco's acceptance of their fate||

[copper flame]

oh wait i didnt think of it this way but ||this symbol showing up in the post-post-credits scene means eggman saved her from death huh||

but yeah one thing i didnt expect from story of this game ||is tackling death and grief||

[earnest quail]

||And somehow pulling it off||

[copper flame]

ngl

||mike pollock's delivery when he is about send out sage with sonic almost got me chocked up||

i will die for them

[earnest quail]

||"Go... fulfil your destiny..."||

||The emotion in that line genuinely shocked me||

||I cri erry tim||

[pulsar cedar]

(Spoilers about Sage) ||so Sage is like the combination of all the AIs that worked alongside the "Ancestors" after they died off and then adopted by Eggman, correct?||

[red shell]

||sage is eggman's ai||

||and she found out about ancient stuff when eggman used her to find out about ancient tech||

[pulsar cedar]

Ditto here ||Oh I guess she is just fashioned off of what the "Ancestors" had, I got confused because the "Ancestors" have what looks like Sage's face on their chest that seemed to represent a partner AI they had||

[pulsar cedar]

also (Final boss spoiler) ||I don't get why the End is just a big moon, seems very boring ||

[long lion]

||No Sage has nothing to do with this place Eggman just set her here to try and hack the machines||

[red shell]

||shame, i wanted a cool villain design to make art of but its just a purple moon. The character itself seems cool enough though||

[pulsar cedar]

continued spoilers ||On closer inspection I was wrong, the things on their chest are the rock creatures and not Sage's face||

[astral spear]

Yeah...

[pulsar cedar]

continued final boss spoilers ||now I think about it is The End based on Nibiru||

[astral spear]

That is...not a name I have heard in a long time

But it does make sense

[red shell]

||i wonder if the end is some sort of spirit inhabiting the purple moon or if it is the purple moon||

[copper flame]

||honestly all i could think of was fucking analog horror like local 58||

[red shell]

||the end||

[copper flame]

EXACTLY

[red shell]

||it is with us now||

[chilly gorge]

||super sonic:||

[red shell]

So i'm thinking about the final boss cutscene

||sonic speaks to the titan as if it was one of the ancients despite sage being the one controlling it||

||thats a bit weird ngl||

[copper flame]

wdym

||superior is not controlled by sage, except for the space portion by the end||

[red shell]

||"He took your homeworld! He took your lives!"||

[copper flame]

||i think he was talking about it generally, since he did meet a lot of kocos along the way||

[astral spear]

||Wouldn't he say then, "He took their homeworld! He took their lives!"||

[pulsar cedar]

||maybe translation error||

[copper flame]

nah ||english script came first||

[copper flame]

||idk. maybe he was talking to the titan's "body" rather than one who controlled ig||

i feel like they might've been some visual thing missing

[pulsar cedar]

||or maybe it still contained the data of its controller||

[astral spear]

||He was definitely talking to the Titan itself||

[red shell]

||the titan has no mind of its own though||

||or does it||

[trail hamlet]

||Dun dun duuuuuuuuun||

[astral spear]

||I can't believe how metal the Titan boss themes are||

[copper flame]

||I can't believe how metal The Titan bosses are||

[astral spear]

||True||

[trail hamlet]

||https://youtu.be/qPqPNzMuxDI|| ||This boss’ theme and fight is Metal as shit yet I can’t find the track that plays lmao||

[copper flame]

WTF I NEVER FOUND THAT BOSS

Man how much content i actually missed i wonder, lmao

[trail hamlet]

||https://youtu.be/eEVWd5GJuqw||

||This interaction is so fucking funny||

[copper flame]

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1589663974911791104?s=20&t=e72JKLoUhIe_AYW-akdzgA ok but like

Sonic the Hedgehog (@sonic_hedgehog)

One day left until #SonicFrontiers!

Are you ready?

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Twitter · Nov 7, 2022, 5:00 PM

||did this tweet deadass spoils the end lmaoooooooooooooo||

[long lion]

Lmfao

[copper flame]

people are like two moons in sonic canon confirmed

yall naive summer children

[long lion]

|| https://twitter.com/FranDarkstar/status/1589664626987651073?s=20&t=cDLR352NVeT52Ri0NsilQw ||
This is so funny

Fran (@FranDarkstar)

@sonic_hedgehog I WAS BORN REA- why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons why are there two moons

Twitter · Nov 7, 2022, 5:02 PM

[astral spear]

They don't know

[copper flame]

they are not ready

||those on the top are very young kocos, you see them in the very beginning of the game||

[red shell]

Oh

[long lion]

||Stanning void||

[astral spear]

||mfw, Dead kid souls trapped in otherwise inanimate objects||

||This is fnaf||

[long lion]

||The child rn||

[trail hamlet]

||https://twitter.com/blu3s_doodles/status/1589410638019063809?s=46&t=vxVjvIiMWOGucrc2n4VgIA||

[astral spear]

.....heh

[trail hamlet]

||I’m crying at the replies lmao||

[copper flame]

crying