#Leaks for Pokémon

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shell sand
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i guess so

rose junco
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also see PMD anime special stuff in here, but seems to just be credits

quaint rune
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was there any confirmation on whether or not gen 10 will be on switch or only on the next nintendo console

shell sand
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we have no info to confirm your question with

grand crown
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so dont get your hopes up

marble sand
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it's so fucked that the only thing stopping an entire game from getting dumped and spoiled early is one leaker's goodwill. Like I'm grateful they're not doing that don't get me wrong. But it's just a weird feeling

rose junco
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got to the card stuff (note: it's not just TCG) btw

quaint rune
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how are there cards thats not just tcg

shell sand
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whats the card stuff...

rose junco
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that's how

shell sand
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SPIIICY

quaint rune
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are mega pokemon cards coming back

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that has to be guarenteed right

rose junco
rose junco
quaint rune
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oh

rose junco
quaint rune
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delta pokemon cards

tropic pollen
quaint rune
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that's for sure

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or who knows

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maybe they will change their mind in a week

dusty temple
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ima bet that if they actually got ahold of the source codes

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it will probably get leaked sooner or later

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but fact check me on this

shell sand
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they do have the source codes of basicaly every other game

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i dont really doubt that they have it

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its just that we dont know if they want to risk jailtime and 2 million dollars fine

dusty temple
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i wonder how did past source code leaks go? did they get leaked to the internet or nah

shell sand
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theyre being scoured through rn

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we have a ton of info how everything was done

dusty temple
shell sand
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they havent done that yet

quaint rune
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its crazy that gen 10 is already like only a year away

shell sand
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as far as we know theyve been workign their way up chronologically

dusty temple
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as a comp player i wanna know how screwed is competitive pokemon for the future

shell sand
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its always screwed if its vgc

dusty temple
quaint rune
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mega zygarde

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😁

shell sand
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😄

dusty temple
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either its gonna be trash or instantly banned from ubers

quaint rune
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with the possibility of mega yveltal and xerneas too

dusty temple
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no in between

shell sand
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if its mega zygarde ontop of complete form its going to banned to ubers and VGC is gonna just have to deal with it

quaint rune
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im most excited if there will be mega yveltal

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xerneas is mid

dusty temple
shell sand
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mega xerneas being in a freakily funny way more balanced than regular xerneas

dusty temple
shell sand
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True!

quaint rune
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wait

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what if hoopa could come back

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and be catchable

dusty temple
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wdym its already in sv

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o

quaint rune
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they made arceus catchable for the first time in like 15 years

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so anything is possible

shell sand
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do u mean making an event mon catchable?

quaint rune
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yes

shell sand
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they did do that with Deoxys for Gen 3...

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and then Arceus for Gen 4

quaint rune
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victini for gen 5

rose junco
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went back to go look at more RS docs, there's another one about Pokemon ideas

quaint rune
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but we get there

dusty temple
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ill wait for them to leak the stats and abilities of the mons

quaint rune
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when we get there

shell sand
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EYES EMOJI

quaint rune
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and hoopa for gen 6

dusty temple
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these are the number 1 things i care for

shell sand
shell sand
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did you hear about mega jynx being real

quaint rune
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also a gen 5 remake is 100% guarenteed

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in 2026 or 2027

shell sand
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105 speed 145 spa magic guard

dusty temple
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spdef

shell sand
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oh is it spdef?

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damn

quaint rune
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pokemon games with even number generations have always had a remake of the half number generation since gen 4

rose junco
dusty temple
quaint rune
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gen 4 had a remake of gen 2

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gen 6 had a remake of gen 3

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gen 8 had a remake of gen 4

marble sand
quaint rune
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and gen 10 will have a remake of gen 5

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there is 0 question about i

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t

shell sand
# dusty temple erm its acshully spdef

internally the game lists the stats with speed before the special stats if thats what u mean unless u mean i the 135/145 mixup which yeah thas me being silly

rose junco
shell sand
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I'd love if you'd list them 🥺 ?

quaint rune
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i wonder if the leakers have any info about genj 5 remakes

dusty temple
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but the real question is

quaint rune
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since that should have started development recently

dusty temple
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if the plot for gen 10 ever did get leaked

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would you be able to resist the temptation?

quaint rune
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but thats like the only info

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and also the code name

dusty temple
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gaia

tropic pollen
quaint rune
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yes

tropic pollen
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It’ll be far more than 2 million btw

dusty temple
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gaia is the goddess of creation in greek mythology

quaint rune
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i think someone made a theory about it

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Pokemon Winds and Pokemon Waves or something

dusty temple
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basically earth

shell sand
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idc about spoilers personally if a game good a game will be good

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  • idrc about pokemon emotionally so
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i would read gen 10 spoilers

quaint rune
rose junco
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there was a ||peacock Pokemon found right, it's mentioned in here|| (still talking early RS stuff)

shell sand
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Ooohhh

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I dont think there were any dex entries linked to it

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would be fun to see what their ideas with it was

quaint rune
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didnt we get a peacock pokemon anyways

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esparathra

dusty temple
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anyways gtg, lemme know if they change their minds

shell sand
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thats an ostritch

quaint rune
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oh

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im dumb

shell sand
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or was it an emu

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idk. its a big bird

dusty temple
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we did get a peacock

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quaquaval

shell sand
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close enough

rose junco
quaint rune
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we had a cat starter where the first 2 forms were 4 legged and the last form was 2 legged

shell sand
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this description is confusing to me

quaint rune
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then we had one where the first form was 4 legged and the second 2 forms were 4 legged

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now get ready

shell sand
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how is it a semicircle...

quaint rune
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we will have a cat starter where all forms are 2 legged

tropic pollen
quaint rune
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truly innovative

tropic pollen
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But this is far more than video games

rose junco
tropic pollen
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This is company secrets

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personal information

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an entire terabyte of data

rose junco
tropic pollen
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This would be hammered down on harder

quaint rune
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i wonder if they made a server where all the data was downloadable

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the entire terabyte

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i wonder if nintendo would DDoS it

shell sand
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thats what theyre currently doing

quaint rune
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wdym that's what theyre doing

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like all the data is downloadable?

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or did they exclude the super important stuff

shell sand
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theyre uploading the stuff slowly

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but yeah the data is downloadable actually

quaint rune
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and we dont konw if theyre gonna have the super super important stuff

shell sand
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thats how were getting so much info

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we already have the super super important stuff

quaint rune
quaint rune
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and z-a source code

shell sand
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they have it

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not we

quaint rune
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so we dont have the super super important stuff

shell sand
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ugh

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youre underestimating the fact that we have such important shit like XY's betas and source codes for basically every game in the series

spice remnant
shell sand
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its not even counting the gen 7 or gen 8 stuff

marble sand
shell sand
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or gen 9

quaint rune
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wait

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are they adding the gen 9 stuff soon

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im really curious

shell sand
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no

quaint rune
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what their plan was for that greyed out area

shell sand
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we're still at gen 6

quaint rune
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in paldea

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on one corner of the map

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theres just this giant ass wall

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that blocks you

shell sand
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we arrived at XY and we still havent gotten to OR/AS

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its going to be a while

spice remnant
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I almost tried to post hololive stuff in this channel I think I have too much pokeleak brainrot right now

quaint rune
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so maybe we will have gen 9 stuff in a few weeks

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since the later the gen

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the harder itll be to upload

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for obvious reasons

marble sand
quaint rune
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does anyone got a link

rose junco
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anyway, ||a 'plastic Pokemon' was proposed for gen 3, gives similar vibes in concept to Muk and later Trubbish; name was ピクス ('Pix') lol||

shell sand
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each gen will be password protected and bigger than the last so probably yeah

spice remnant
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I have heard zilch of them having switch stuff besides ZA but who knows ig

quaint rune
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to where all this stuff is downloadable

rose junco
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not allowed to link

spice remnant
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No lmfao don’t ask

quaint rune
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oh ok

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mb

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ill just look on google like a idiot

marble sand
quaint rune
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wait

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what does source code mean for game modding

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👀

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this opens up so much possibilities i bet

rose junco
spice remnant
quaint rune
shell sand
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the people online currently have basically seen everythin i think

quaint rune
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||pokemon gaia will be similar to sun/moon apparently||

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||you go from one island to the next to the next but probably in any order this time||

shell sand
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maybe

quaint rune
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||SPLATOON POKEMON||

shell sand
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i dont really think they should keep going with open world if theyre not gonna level scale the game with your team or what you accomplished

marble sand
quaint rune
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||SPLATOOOON POKEMONNNNNNNNN||

quaint rune
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pokemon ketamine and nicotine coming 2025

shell sand
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uhm

quaint rune
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||it's called K and N||

shell sand
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please dont spoiler tag things that arent real

quaint rune
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its literally called that tho

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in japanese

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not literally ||K and N||

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||but the names start with K and N||

rose junco
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||Sea Slug Pokemon is mentioned in here 👀||

shell sand
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ah there it is

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the rumor about Shellos being from gen 3

quaint rune
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||the main theory is that K and N refer to Kaze and Nami which translates to Winds and Waves so gen 10 is called Pokemon Winds and Pokemon Waves||

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||or pokemon ketamine and nicotine 😁||

shell sand
rose junco
quaint rune
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||woulda been cool to see shellos in gen 3 and gastrodon in gen 4||

shell sand
quaint rune
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bro can we MOVE ON ALREADY

quaint rune
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my god

rose junco
quaint rune
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||gen 1 just literally wont be making them any money at some point they gotta stop||

shell sand
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between this and other junichi masuda "hey there was this concept we didnt get to put in" it feels like this interviews never have the same actual mon concept in mind

quaint rune
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||apparently a new pokemon is confirmed for something||

shell sand
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yep

quaint rune
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||maybe gen 10 movie||

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||this pokemon looks like nothing special so i would bet maybe that this movie is set to come out after gen 10 comes out so this pokemon will not be unexpected because its a gen 10 pokemon||

shell sand
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we have no more information to go on with on those ends

quaint rune
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||but apparently the movie is set to come out in 2024 so maybe its a Z-A pokemon that they're making an easter egg early or something||

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very confusing

shell sand
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i dont think gamefreak actually does anything in conjunction with the media side anymore

quaint rune
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well the media side cant just ||make a new pokemon and not elaborate||

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||so i am sure itll make sense at some point relatively soon||

shell sand
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i mean sure but all that means is Gamefreak can add it and not elaborate either

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like yknow

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every other movie tie-in event mon

quaint rune
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||i mean we still havent gotten a pecharunt movie so its probably devolved into a mess when it comes to pokemon media production at this point||

shell sand
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pretty sure the media side just came up with that youtube anim short and basically that was it

rose junco
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||oh original concept for Relicanth was originally proposed in this doc too||
||basically "Deep-Sea Pokémon. A Pokémon that lives in the deep sea. Its eyes have degenerated, giving it a fuzzy look. It moves slowly and is rumored to be an ancient fish." (still again, no name)|| (still RS)

shell sand
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that and Pecharunt is literally part of the plot in the game, so its not really the Media's side

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Pecharunt was GF"s idea so they put it in their game

rose junco
shell sand
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yeah i dont think centroleaks is a good source

quaint rune
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uhh this is nightmare fuel!

shell sand
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they just kind of repeat what other people say and then they put their own thoughts on what they Think is going on in other people's posts

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its a really bad way of finding things out

quaint rune
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||this shit would have raised the age rating of pokemon RSE||

shell sand
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it really wouldnt

quaint rune
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i know thats an exadgeration

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but still

rose junco
shell sand
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my friend had an idea who the concept artist of the freaky gen 3 cocnept art was but we cuoldnt find any visuals of their work online whatsoever

quaint rune
shell sand
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just the fact tat they worked on a bunch of pokemon movies

quaint rune
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im SCARED

shell sand
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its all concept art, which can require a vague design to get the idea across

quaint rune
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ummm who the hell is this

shell sand
rose junco
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anyway back to RS stuff, ||there's something very Frosslass-like proposed in here too, how many gen 4 stuff was proposed for gen 3???||

shell sand
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lit. psycho dog

quaint rune
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uhh no thank you.

rose junco
shell sand
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oh you have it with you?

rose junco
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though in JP obviously

quaint rune
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gamefreak was cooking up some creepy shit

shell sand
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not really

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they just asked a guy for a bunch of concepts that they were going to change anyway

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"give us some ideas"

quaint rune
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he gave them very creepy ideas

shell sand
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and i mean the Cacturne concept art should show you how their process was

rose junco
shell sand
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inu can be a single character?

quaint rune
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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hes just a lil guy

rose junco
quaint rune
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this has to be the pokemon with the worst beta designs right

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it has like 3 shitty ones

shell sand
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uhm

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idk how to tell you this but there's a reason this stuff is called "in-development"

quaint rune
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yes but

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hes so goofy

shell sand
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then appreciate the goofiness

quaint rune
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does anyone got a picture of the other ||manectric|| beta design

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i think that one was even goofier

shell sand
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you can go to tcrf and you'll find a lot of better sources that are actually documented with names and descriptions

marble sand
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It must be a lot of fun to be an artist on these games (barring all the crunch that's bound to happen)

shell sand
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i would not like to be a gamefreak employee

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i would love to be a HAL laboratory employee

marble sand
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That's real as hell. dream job

quaint rune
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what even is this

shell sand
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you can see for yourself on gen 3 tcrf page

quaint rune
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freaky nosepass

spice remnant
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Sir

shell sand
rose junco
spice remnant
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Why in the world do you think that’s a nosepass

quaint rune
quaint rune
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which nosepass also has on his head

quaint rune
spice remnant
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First thats a probopass

shell sand
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again i think if u wanted to see stuff that isnt fake you should visit the tcrf page

spice remnant
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Second

quaint rune
quaint rune
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its like

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shellstronaut or something right

shell sand
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no

spice remnant
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Its my mom

quaint rune
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what is his nam e

urban hound
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Shelmet

quaint rune
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freaky shelmet is not real

urban hound
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Yee

quaint rune
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i honestly wonder what kind of modding opportunities this source code can open up

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for all pokemon gmes

shell sand
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probably a lot

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we're not modders though so i can't really tell you

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well we are but for Kirby i think

urban hound
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I do recommend the cutting room floor since it's all genuine stuff and organized wayyy nicer- I've been seeing stuff as it comes out and watching stuff get confirmed fake so I'm all caught up but

spice remnant
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Having the source code means you can recreate the game from scratch

shell sand
spice remnant
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Ignoring legalities it means someone can feasibly use it to create a native pc version of the game in question, for example

urban hound
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But yeah, modding in this regard would start to get way illegal, right?

quaint rune
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yeah sadly distributing these highly capable mods would not be legal

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not to say that it wouldnt happen anyways

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the internet archive is right there

shell sand
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i think the modding scene is already doing a lot without the source code stuff

urban hound
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I dunno if it's worse than like emulators or only as bad

shell sand
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but this will give them basically documentation for everything

quaint rune
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emulators are not bad

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there is nothing illegal or wrong with emulators

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common misconception ofc

urban hound
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Not wrong I can agree with but I've never heard of it being Legal exactly?

quaint rune
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lmao

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emulators are legal

shell sand
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emulators are legal as long as the game you got is something you got yourself out of the physical product you bought

quaint rune
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only the roms you put into emulators are often ilelgal

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but not un-ethical ofc

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anyone who is super stuck up over piracy needs to mind their business

shell sand
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thats not really how it works

rose junco
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there's a txt document with ||names or descriptors of every 'new' Pokemon; has numbers tied to graphics|| (RS still)

spice remnant
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The thing about having the source code is that you can’t use it but you can absolutely We Didn’t Look At It while being able to write original code that does the exact same thing

shell sand
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||finalized new pokemon or every new pokemon tehy came up with in gen 3||

quaint rune
urban hound
quaint rune
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i wonder when oras will start

shell sand
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they arent even done with XY so

quaint rune
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so in like 2 days probably lol

rose junco
shell sand
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👀

rose junco
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||ah definitely, with stuff like Elhawk to 'missing number' (and points to its Blaziken's ID number, not named still at this point)||

shell sand
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ahhh so this is the finalization process

rose junco
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||okay so this guy was originally ビィ('By'), and had its name changed to (or was replaced by something named) カモメール ('Kamomale')||

shell sand
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F for the bee

spice remnant
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Oh btw ultrby there’s like a file that explains what the names of the gen III pokemon mean

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Like a developer file

rose junco
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forget if I saw that one yet

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don't think I did?

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does it mention early ones or just final (guessing the latter)

spice remnant
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||

Ubausagi: 乳母 + うさぎ (Nursing + Rabbit) -> Had other potential names with no etymology: Tilnny and Ousagi.
Elhawk: El (Spanish for he) + Hawk
Biskyal: ハイビスカス +  ギャル (Hisbiscus + Gyaru)
Kanbok: corruption of 灌木 (かんぼく -> Viburnum opulus)
Kodomin: 子供 + モスミー (Child + Mosumii) -> Either Mosumii was Kodomin's pre-evolution, and Kodomin was supposed to evolve, or Mosumii, Kodomin and a scrapped Pokémon were supposed to be a trio.
Mossmy: corruption of 苔 (Moss)
Flane: フラワー + 寝る (Flower + Sleep)
Otoma: 音 + オタマジャクシ (Sound + Tadpole) -> Supposed to evolve into Keromeero (ケロメーロ)
Plapass: プレーン + コンパス (Plane + Compass)
Piper: corruption of 種 (Pip)
Lighli: Light + Line
Archaeon: corruption of Archaeoptery
Ryllidy: アマリリス + レヂイ (Amaryllis + Lady)
Kurobosshi: 黒 + 起き上がり小坊師 (Black + Roly-poly Toy)```||
shell sand
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I KNEW IT

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ITS A FREAKIN WRESTLER BIRD

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THAT DAMN DESIGN IS CONNECTED TO 3 SPIRITUAL SUCCESSORS

next compass
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||elhawk||

marble sand
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||it's cool how they gave pieces of elhawk to a bunch of different designs||

rose junco
spice remnant
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To be specific its not one file rather every proto pokemon has like their own file that lists a bunch of info about them

shell sand
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Ohhhhhh

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OOOOOO

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spicyyyy

rose junco
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ah, don't have the tool to look in those unfortunately

spice remnant
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Yea they’re uhhh .fmj or something

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Program is ‘filemaker’

rose junco
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yeah, don't know of anything that can view them besides Filemaker itself

spice remnant
shell sand
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Route 119 (hoenn) didnt use to have a river

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thats so cool seeing what they added and stuff

rose junco
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||doc says Kaen got replaced by Glalie preevolution (Snorunt) ||

shell sand
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which one is ||Kaen||

rose junco
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||one that was leaked few years ago in Nintendo Gigaleak stuff that we still don't have a design for pretty sure; it was Fire-type and had an evolution||

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||a ボイスポケモン ('Voice Pokemon') with two evolutions (slots 473, 474, 475) is listed in here||

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||oh guess that would be Whismur line right||

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||Raltz line is described here as ミツル君使用のエスパー ('Psychic Pokemon used by Wally'), those Pokemon were made specifically for him?!||

shell sand
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I KNEW IT

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that makes the whole spiderlily thing from OR/AS imply Ryllidy as Gardevoir even more

rose junco
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||oh yeah also, if anyone's wondering about the 391 slot, it was Poochyena at this point||

marble sand
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pulled this off Twitter - I'm sure it's been shared before but can someone verify it's all real

marble sand
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Swag ty

shell sand
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Originally ||Flygon line|| used to be like actual Dragonflies

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but then someone was like hey we have an antlion mon

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lets change it

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also it was originally Bug/Flying

marble sand
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someone said it was aquatic as well?

shell sand
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thats part of its dex entries

shell sand
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and is also based on real dragonflies

marble sand
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||on one hand I kinda like the design we got better and the typing is certainly stronger. But I wish the big bug got to be a big bug||

proven bay
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Is it true that ||Lady Gaga music was used as placeholder for X&Y's development||

shell sand
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Yes

proven bay
shell sand
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Born This Way, by the way

marble sand
next compass
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||vibrava has actually always been my favorite of the flygon line im a bit upset it was actually initially planned to be a big bug all the way||

proven bay
next compass
proven bay
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I'm fucking wheezing lmao I need to hear footage

next compass
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||he looks traumatized||

rose junco
proven bay
next compass
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XY ost was fucking robbed

marble sand
next compass
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i wonder if these placeholder songs were meant to be references for the composers

shell sand
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nah

next compass
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i like to think that tho lol. why else would it be there

shell sand
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considering XY leaning into eurobeat and edm, its very different id say

next compass
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i mean this is edm

shell sand
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also theres other placeholder songs in previous games

next compass
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now that im curious about

shell sand
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theres uh

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what did faye link again

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firesomething

next compass
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oh wait ive see nthat one hold on

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||oh so it WAS firestarter||

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#1028079151091027978 message

rose junco
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(RS) ||oh there's doc on ingame Braille stuff, is sort of like a guide (though I can't view the file properly, partially because don't know original filetype; can just see the text in it)||

shell sand
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Firestarter is mroe similar to XY's music than Born This Way

shell sand
rose junco
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iirc yeah

next compass
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God you can just tell how old these games are lmao

shell sand
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yes

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honestly im more reminded of how old i am than how old the games are

next compass
shell sand
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It waht

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did it??

next compass
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some songs do feel that way for me

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not saying its just that

shell sand
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i dont really want to go through it but my opinion is that i disagree

shell sand
next compass
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i mean were you just thinking of like the fight battles?

shell sand
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I am thinking of all of the tracks

next compass
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then yeah it generally feels more pop for me (from what i remember), but nevermind all that then

shell sand
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I remember more orchestra and synth tracks

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pop to me is like making sure you have a catchy hook as your main melody and i dont really think of XY as having many catchy hooks

next compass
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not in that sense tho, more like, pop from like the 2010's, it reminds me of that a lot. also it may be because of my general nostalgia and childhood obsession with XY but i think it has a lot of catchy hooks especially in the routes

shell sand
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Born This Way has catchy hook

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the most catchiest hook to me in all of XY is the trainer theme

shell sand
next compass
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no it isnt

shell sand
#

What

next compass
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some of it is orchestral but i think its more pop/edm iirc

shell sand
#

What

next compass
#

what?? surely my memory isnt wrong lol. i mostly remember the orchestra being reserved for like... the towns and victory road???

shell sand
#

No.

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XY was mainly orchestral routes

rose junco
#

(RS still) ||oh there's early ability doc in here, first thing I see that's interesting is that トッター (Tottaa) got Insomnia (is the only one listed for it in here too)||

shell sand
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I dont think any game has had edm as its route music motif since Gen 4

rose junco
#

this guy

shell sand
#

yea

next compass
#

i guess i may have mistaken one of the cities themes for that. ill relisten later just to jog my memory then, cus i was sure i can recall all the songs well

shell sand
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the most interesting/different city track from the orchestral stuff is Anistar City and its very atmospheric and has a slow pace, even having ticking clock as part of its instruments

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unless youre in a technological area or in battle, XY almost always has an orchestra playing in your ear

rose junco
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||oh Wooper and Quagsire are listed as having Oblivious in this (and again, only ones to do so in here)||

shell sand
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Oh yeah game that introduced abilities

shell sand
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which actually does sound like pop yeah

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but for the most part XY is orchestral in the overworld and more edm/synthy in battles

next compass
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ya thats the one iw as thinking of! its the catchiest theme for me so it never leaves my mind wheneve ri think of XY lol.

rose junco
shell sand
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its unfortunate that its the main outlier and not the vibe

shell sand
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they were gonna give starters good abilities?!

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impossible.

north fjord
#

Aliens

shell sand
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well it was only possible gen 5 onwards

next compass
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its crazy cus i did remember XY ost mroe for its EDM tracks than the orchestral tracks. i guess i gaslit myself in a way>

north fjord
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Alien bros will still believe though we will survive

shell sand
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the more i see xy betas the more i doubt that entire post

north fjord
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Alien bros will survive

shell sand
#

it describes Viola as a ghost type gym leader and yet they seem to have been bug type from the start

next compass
#

even if the alien thing was fake, id imagine itd be an idea that was considered very early in development and just. none of it made it becuase they wanted an easier project to develop in a quicker time

north fjord
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I want to believe

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Alien bros…

next compass
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so it was a complete rehash with no mercy for the older concepts

shell sand
#

also space as a concept wasn't relaly unique to XY and XY is actually the outlier for not having something from space

rose junco
shell sand
#

wait

next compass
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and the mega stones as well as the crystal poke may be the last traces of it repurposed into an entirely new concept

shell sand
#

Kyurem is from space

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B2W2 was made WHILE Xy was made

north fjord
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Clay ngl you’re sounding like the type to tell a child that Santa isn’t real

shell sand
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Sure

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i dont really mind

marble sand
rose junco
north fjord
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Yeah there he is

marble sand
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Oh thanks heavens. was worried for a moment there

north fjord
#

Merry Christmas everyone

rose junco
shell sand
#

Yeah it has a lamer ability

north fjord
#

Limber do be kinda lame

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Iron Fist is better

shell sand
#

Iron Fist was gen 4

north fjord
#

What does it have now

shell sand
#

it had Keen Eye in gen 3

north fjord
#

Ah gross

rose junco
#

||Hitmontop had an ability called かそくそうち (idk what exactly later part of this means, 'Aceleration' something?), which raised speed by one stage every turn, can guess why that was cut||

shell sand
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isnt that

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they simplified the ability name to just かそく

rose junco
#

ah

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I forgot about that

shell sand
#

also hitmontop with that ability sounds insane

rose junco
shell sand
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yeah looking at hitmontop's stats it wouldve loved that ability

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just the riiight stat spread to start abusing it after a turn

rose junco
#

||Vaporeon originally got Drizzle||

shell sand
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Oh shit

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You'd think it would be ||Kyogre|| exclusive

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but I guess even before gen 5, they thought of giving that ability to mons

rose junco
#

||yeah, it was originally meant for Vaporeon too, this was very early||

shell sand
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freaky alternate timeline where tyranitar meta in gen 3 was trumped by the fishcat

rose junco
#

||also Butterfree originally got Shield Dust (listed alongside Venomoth, which did get it)||

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||Flash Fire was originally for Charizard line||

shell sand
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w.. what did Venusaur get

tropic pollen
#

These beta abilities are fire

rose junco
shell sand
#

thats wild

harsh lion
shell sand
#

||Blastoise gets Water Absorb, Charizard Flash Fire, and Venusaur gets ?????????||

rose junco
#

||tbf this was very early, like 'only 20 abilities listed' early||

shell sand
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i think Venusaur is when they realized "wait this doesnt make sense"

rose junco
#

||Shuckle got Immunity; Slowpoke line got Cloud Nine (originally のうてんき here); Compact Eyes is listed for Venomoth line (Venomoth is only one with two abilities in here)||

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I think I listed all of them that got changed?

surreal vault
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||Immunity Shuckle 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥||

shell sand
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Interesting

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its funny that Psyduck line got ||Cloud Nine|| instead

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Oh its a pun

rose junco
#

ah did someone go and translate it already

shell sand
#

huh

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||Camerupt did not get insomnia||

rose junco
#

also see a ||mail doc, did not realize the Dream Mail was supposed to represent Jirachi lol||

spice remnant
#

Looks like camerupt is the only gen III mon listed here

shell sand
rose junco
shell sand
#

Ohhhh

rose junco
#

||whoever looked at it probably got confused because Camerupt's early name was ドンキィ||

shell sand
#

weird

spice remnant
#

Ah yea || トッター is tottaa||

shell sand
#

giving it to ||Tottaa|| is really weird because the presumed mon that succeeded its existence didnt get it

rose junco
#

||oh found Elite Four doc, forget if it was mentioned here yet||

shell sand
#

eyes emoji

rose junco
shell sand
#

Oh i think she references this in OR/AS

#

oh both games actualy nvermind

rose junco
#

||tbh I didn't know actual English definition of Pyre (or know about equivalent used in JP name) before translating this lol||

#

||for Sidney, basically "He tries to genuinely enjoy Pokémon battles. He does not care about his rank in the Elite Four. Rather, he thinks it is better to be ranked fourth in the Elite Four so that he can fight with various trainers at their best. His style seems to be to stand slanting."||

north fjord
rose junco
#

||for Steven Stone, basically "He is the son of the Devon President and a Pokémon League Champion. However, his father does not know that he is the champion. When he was 19 years old, he left home and started his Pokemon training. Although he is unaware of it, his behavioral style is heroic. He has excellent looks and is somewhat of a narcissist. His hobby is collecting rare stones. He meets the protagonist at places related to stones, such as the place where a meteorite fell."||

rose junco
#

#1028079151091027978 message

shrewd pulsarBOT
# rose junco https://discord.com/channels/132720341058453504/1028079151091027978/129557706245...
ultrby7457#0 - #Leaks for Pokémon

more look at internally used tools I guess (for gen 3)
not sure if any of the sprites are new

next compass
#

Bro that is SUCH an old music player

rose junco
#

||oh my god there's yet another doc for Pokemon concepts||

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||mosquito was considered for gen 3?||

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||really this lists like a ton of animals and things lmao||

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||"Pixel Pokemon (pre-Porygon)"||

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||oh pre-evo of Snorlax is mentioned in here; "Pre-evolution of Snorlax (to find out why it eats and sleeps all the time)"||

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||there's Poke Ball doc, but everything in it is in the final||

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||oh right, there's also earlier version of the Gym Leader doc||

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||there's a doc that talks about Cities and what Badges their Gyms give, think this matches final||

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think I'm done with this for now

west bramble
#

HOLY SHIT (Z-A spoilers)

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THIS IS HUGE NEWS

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this is actually fucking incredible

plucky ibex
#

game of the year

proven bay
tropic pollen
#

||god i havent gotten that beta south kalos map out of my mind||

west bramble
tropic pollen
#

i wonder if|| Zygarde was initially supposed to be put there, like how you can only get Giratina and Kyurem in the postgames of DP/BW, but was moved when those areas never became real and the map was downsized||

shell sand
#

a lot of the dots were moved to the northern side

tropic pollen
#

oh huh interesting

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how many

tropic pollen
#

Oh yeah this just ||confirms my theory about zygarde and terminus cave||

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pretty sure one of them is uhhh the Kalos power plant ?

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doubt that was moved, think that one was just added

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the lost hotel too

harsh lion
#

azure bay

shell sand
#

power plant has been shown to be given a big placeholder graphic during the really early XY builds

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i had to crop it because the vp thread was beefin with some guy

tropic pollen
#

Sea Spirits Den is one i can see being moved from south

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as in, it was going to be in the south, but couldn't be, ofc

surreal vault
tropic pollen
#

ya

rose junco
tropic pollen
#

always had a weird name

surreal vault
shell sand
#

isnt it straight up XY post game anyway or

tropic pollen
#

you can go there before

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it just doesnt have anything

spare hare
tropic pollen
#

most of those I just feel are "lets add a map spot for this thing that was always going to be here", but some I feel were moved

rose junco
spare hare
#

||also the connecting cave dot is further to the east than in the final game||

tropic pollen
#

also Azure Bay is the name of the route, not the cave itself 🤓 ☝️

spare hare
#

ah mixed it up

#

was thinking of the area before yea

#

well actually that area was also added anyways 🤓

rose junco
spare hare
#

||chamber of emptiness 🤝 scorched slab || having basically nothing

harsh lion
tropic pollen
spare hare
#

||until oras added heatran anyways||

surreal vault
runic prawn
#

finally caught up ||omg southern kalos real||

tropic pollen
#

its called Watatsumi's Den in JP, that being the name of a Japanese dragon and tutelary water deity in Japanese mythology.

spare hare
runic prawn
#

TRUE

rose junco
#

compared to area being 海神の穴

tropic pollen
#

Ah i did not know that

rose junco
#

and obviously JP version of movie calls it that as well

wanton trail
#

Why are there so many leaks

#

Jeez dude

spare hare
#

it's a terabyte's worth of information

tropic pollen
#

one terabyte bro

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LMAO

wanton trail
#

1 terabye

#

Knw

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Its like

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Jeez

rose junco
#

yeah, and a bit of GBs have been released already

echo bone
#

MA GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

wanton trail
#

An entre fucking terabyte got leaked

spare hare
#

think about how much gets leaked from like a 10gb game

wanton trail
#

Its hard to believe

spare hare
#

and that's not even a directly accurate comparison

wanton trail
#

Ill

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I’ll probably have to catch up with videos onlke

#

…apart from a specific leak that i know is becoming a huge meme and is also very bad

next compass
#

oh the bunny one yeah that ones very cute

echo bone
#

the top looks like a dragon......

rose junco
#

to me it looks like a bird lol

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but close enough

next compass
#

it was probably meant to capture a rough silhouette of a dragon

#

what with the pigtails as the wings and the bow as the horns

wanton trail
#

Anyone uh

#

Anyone have a good suggestion for a recap of everything that was leaked

spare hare
#

i mean

shell sand
#

how are we supposed to do that

spare hare
#

beyond just telling you in vague terms it's hard

rose junco
#

like today or in general lmao

spare hare
#

you could go look at the cutting room floor for the beta designs

#

that's an easy place to go look that has them compiled and with some nice documentation

#

otherwise we can only tell you in very broad terms

next compass
#

...ace?

#

is that the right word?

next compass
#

i always associated her with that more than the ||haxorus||

echo bone
#

it's the unused mons from gen 3

spare hare
#

there's beta sprites, concept art, internal conversations, early builds, early music, and more for basically all of game freak at least from gen 3 and onwards

echo bone
#

tcrf wiki is slowly updating with everything

spare hare
#

and also some non pokemon stuff

rose junco
rose junco
# spare hare and also some non pokemon stuff

yeah, Drill Dozer stuff, unreleased SFC version of Quinty, little bit of HarmoKnight stuff, 2 unreleased DS games, and an unreleased Yoshi SFC remake (partially ported over and used as test for BW)

echo bone
#

this one beta volbeat artwork i like
it's the same as the final one but has the much nicer gen 2 anime colors

wanton trail
#

Im just gonna check tyranitarTube’s yt

#

He has four vids on this leak

shell sand
#

just ask if you needa nything specific i guess

runic prawn
#

it's hard to compile everything that has leaked because it's just So Much

spice timber
#

it's also like

#

still going

runic prawn
#

yup

#

plus some people are throwing fake stuff in the middle to complicate even further

echo bone
#

like gaturro.

spare hare
echo bone
shell sand
#

heres a clearer look at that Aroma Lady from gen 4 beta

#

they look so. Not gen 4

echo bone
#

anyways it's been funny putting emotes on top of the thread to relate to the leak lol

shell sand
#

???

next compass
#

oh she doe look liek one

echo bone
#

what no eyes does to a mfer

shell sand
#

im pretty sure theres eyes if wecan just an even clearer look

#

also apparently the reason the ||Fairy Badge appears|| behind Viola is just the fact that its the only badge they have done and all the other Gym leaders use Calem's art as a placeholder and the badge as a placeholder

echo bone
#

gay icon

shell sand
#

(it is)

arctic bobcat
#

||ngl even with that alien encounter theme there's really nothing that suggests it's like the rest of the rumor
like for all we know it was just tied to a funny sidequest like they did for that o-power guy in sun/moon||

shell sand
#

alien encounter theme was confrmed fake

arctic bobcat
#

It figures

spice remnant
shell sand
#

tbh I love viewing attack animations so this is a treat for me too

next compass
#

||GIANT FUCKING FOOT FROM ABOVE||

shell sand
#

that. foot model. is unfortunately shaded.

wanton trail
shell sand
runic prawn
#

nice

stoic kindle
#

Only the toughest challenge for the e4

shell sand
#

CHARIZARD Y HAD ||GALE WINGS??????????||

north fjord
#

God forbid

shell sand
#

apparently Talonflame was in the process of being tested with a higher attack stat too

surreal vault
surreal vault
tropic pollen
surreal vault
#

I agree

shell sand
#

wait

#

yea

tropic pollen
#

YEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

harsh lion
#

insane

surreal vault
#

||126 attack????||

harsh lion
#

||103||

#

||126 is speed||

surreal vault
#

Oh right

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||103 attack is dayummm||

harsh lion
#

||order is hp, attack, defense, speed, special attack, special defense||

terse agate
#

wheres the yoshi remake

spice remnant
tropic pollen
#

not in earlier gens

#

not that it'd need it either, its 50% in the sun

#

i think it first got hurricane in gen 8?

surreal vault
#

^

spice remnant
#

||Well it doesnt get sun on its own if it gets gale wings instead of drought, but damn that would've been useless
Gale Wings Air Slash lol||

surreal vault
#

Thats it's gen 6 flying learnset

spice remnant
#

||Imagine the gale wings rain hurricane Mega Charizard Y Kapar ||

tropic pollen
#

HP Water Hurricane Bug Buzz Quiver Volcarona in rain 💧💧💧💧💧💧

spice remnant
echo bone
#

||shadow maractus?????????||

shell sand
#

that loks so scuffed 😭

tropic pollen
grizzled turret
spice remnant
spare hare
#

this has to be one of the funniest tcg arts

#

meowth is so dumbfounded

shell sand
#

that reminds me

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I have 0 idea whats like

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the in-universe public perception of mew

#

like do people know about it enough that its like a rare mon that people can catch or is it like

#

juts a really well known roaming pokemon that is never caught

#

but documented enough for people to have opinions on it

#

because the anime like Journeys theres literally a kid just "I WANT TO CATHC MEW"

spare hare
#

i think people know of it but very very few people have ever actually seen it

shell sand
#

and then theres this tcg art

#

Hmm

#

interesting

surreal vault
velvet bobcat
grizzled turret
shell sand
#

@spice remnant if i can ask, is this guy in the filemaker files, and what is it described as?

echo bone
shell sand
#

beta stats for XY

harsh lion
#

||> Clawitzer: -29 special attack||

shell sand
#

LOL i just saw a fucking text post that could be true but i havent found a real source for it

#

an idea from Gen 5 or something apparently but i havent verified if its real

spare hare
#

I think they're just making fun of the aliens

shell sand
#

No

#

there's more items

shell sand
#

theres a few aliens in Unova itself than Kalos

echo bone
#

only elgyem line right

shell sand
#

Gothita line has some references to space but also

#

Elgyem line is so obviously Western Alien

spare hare
#

Yea it's only them

tropic pollen
#

i can see why these were scrapped

tropic pollen
spare hare
#

So these are supposed to be for xy or what?

tropic pollen
shell sand
#

Gen 5

spare hare
#

Or gen 5?

harsh lion
spare hare
#

Well ||bw2 has Yancy and curtis||

echo bone
echo bone
shell sand
#

I havent verified if these are real or not but theres enough written here that I wanted to share it + i find the first idea hilarious

#

its something theyd do

echo bone
#

maybe area 51 was gonna be for the desert resort

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would have made more sense than there being an ancient egyptian sand castle in america

spare hare
#

I'm fairly sure there's s9me dialogue at ||anville town similar to that train platform dialogue, or maybe in battle subway||

shell sand
#

oh i forgot to send this one

shell sand
#

Flirting: pokemon style

spare hare
#

||I don't remember anything about getting more familiar with a shopkeeper though. Maybe join avenue at a stretch||

spare hare
# shell sand

||if this is true, they might have combined this and the idol one||

shell sand
#

why was it so MEAN

spare hare
#

||in the final game, you meet an idol going incognito in public, and then you stumble into a relationship with them where you keep trading pokemon||

echo bone
harsh lion
# shell sand

||this one reminded me of the little applin sidequest in swsh||

shell sand
harsh lion
#

||that just reads like you'd be giving the guy the same pokémon that the girl has so it's pretty much like the applin sidequest just I guess less absurd lol||

shell sand
#

i cant verify this myself because i dont know what an xls file is

#

but if someone wants to check

spare hare
#

I mean it'd pretty much just be faye

shell sand
#

or ultrby

#

Ok the files in there

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i wonder if i can open it with anything

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oh i can

#

get ready for some deepl translations because I can't read japanese!

#

three ideas for gen 5/bw

tropic pollen
#

Cute ideas tbh

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I reallt like them

shell sand
#

3 more ideas + i found where that Older Sister Shop Regular Discount one is

harsh lion
#

^oh those first two are really cool

shell sand
#

More BW ideas

#

i love the last idea a lot actually

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another set of 4

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help theres like

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300 lines

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im only at 70

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we take a break from whatever im doing for beta mega stats

spice timber
#

oh

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apparently gen 7 storyboards leaked?

shell sand
#

i havent seen any yet

spice timber
harsh lion
#

WHEN YOU SEE IT

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oh well I guess its the first line I didnt read the first line

spice timber
#

wait a goddamn minute

spare hare
#

Lmao

spice timber
#

they ||nerfed mega garchomp last minute||

#

what the hell

tropic pollen
shell sand
#

a lot of these bw ideas are crazy

#

like im going through the tame ones

harsh lion
#

||165 base attack mega gyarados with strong jaw crunch is unhinged. pic unrelated||

shell sand
#

but theres the other spreadsheets with the uh

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questionable shit

harsh lion
#

||MEGA BLAZIKEN SHOULDVE HAD MOXIE||

spare hare
#

||mold breaker isn't too bad at least. Not like losing 20 speed||

tropic pollen
#

||Speed boost into moxie is VILE||

warped ferry
harsh lion
#

||also holy shit mega houndoom couldve been so bad. and. mega scizor couldve had 170 base attack??????||

harsh lion
spare hare
#

No ik

harsh lion
#

||but LOL strong jaw stab crunch with 165 base attack would've been insane||

tropic pollen
#

The eon duo sob

harsh lion
#

eon duo is hilarious

#

||130 base speed on both||

tropic pollen
#

||w.e. bro, Mega Chomp will have scale shot in gen 10||

harsh lion
#

oh my god

#

if

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||if mega houndoom had kept these stats||

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||it would've been the Cacturne of megas.||

tropic pollen
#

LMAOOOO

harsh lion
#

||75/110/90/140/90/95. yeah thats a 600 bst cacturne||

#

||also that's insane why did they give it 110 base attack originally but the ability was solar power anyway||

warped ferry
#

||i think it'd be funny if game freak actually took notice of blaziken getting banned from singles ou solely because it has speed boost and realized "oh shit maybe giving its mega moxie isn't the brightest idea"||

harsh lion
#

||I wish it had moxie so bad tho 😭||

tropic pollen
#

Lowkey i think chainchomp is a cool ass set anyway so idm the distribution it has

harsh lion
#

is that what ppl call scale shot garchomp

tropic pollen
#

Nono chain Chomp is an old gen 4 set

#

Mixed

shell sand
#

WAIT

tropic pollen
#

It was Draco, EQ, stone edge, fire blast

shell sand
#

THERES BETA DRILL DOZER MuSIC

#

@rose junco THIS WAS FOUND IN ONE OF THE EMAILS?

tropic pollen
#

this was also usable on mega Chomp

harsh lion
#

ahhh

#

yeah im pretty sure Mega chomp was mostly used as a mixed attacker

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or at least thats how i remember it

royal flint
shell sand
#

what the FUCK does this mean

shell sand
#

and then theres uhm

harsh lion
#

||maybe they had an NPC called Jom Bravolta for that location which. lmao||

shell sand
#

a lot of questionably worded stuff

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ive seen them posted and i havent checked translations/jisho/doublechecking but it was definitely a concept

shell sand
#

and its just . Why

harsh lion
#

||yeah I mean they would've had that bc its a dance club and he shows up every saturday night i think it's a funny reference||

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||IDK if there's anything like that in pokémon games that i recall though||

shell sand
#

i think Gen 2-7 has a lot events that are weekday-based

harsh lion
#

ok so i went looking for anything remotely similar on bulbapedia and found this. This is cringe

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oh no I meant like

shell sand
#

so i dont think the concept in of itself is crazy

#

pop culture references you mean

harsh lion
#

a blatant reference to a real life celebrity like that

#

yeah

shell sand
#

wait

harsh lion
#

there's a lot of quotes but i don't know if there's a character who's just named after a celebrity

shell sand
#

kind of silly

harsh lion
#

In Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!, two Master Scientists that use Zubat and Golbat are named West and Keaton, who share their names with Adam West and Michael Keaton, respectively, actors who have played the superhero Batman.

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I guess??????????????????????

tropic pollen
harsh lion
#

In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity, after the player's first meeting with Swanna, she says "You can call me Swanna if you want. Just don't call me maybe.", referencing the Carly Rae Jepsen song "Call Me Maybe."
alright

tropic pollen
#

LMAO i remember that one

#

Dont forget the game Grumps reference in LGPE

shell sand
#

this one happened with Looker and one of the uhhh

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"plasma sages" guys

harsh lion
#

all of them actually

#

^you don't get hints for them though

shell sand
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no im talking about a specific one

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specifically the trait about the "being chased into a cul-de-sac"

tropic pollen
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Yesterday i came up with a fakemon idea/in the event there was a Pokemon contest and i somehow won it

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Elephunk. Its a dancing bipedal elephant. He got a disco ball that he throws in the air and makes it hover cuz its part psychic.

shell sand
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sounds fun

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i would vote Yes for it, especially if it was Gen 3 era and we're all the gen 3 devs

north fjord
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Has there been anything neat in the past couple of hours besides ||old stats and abilities||

shell sand
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thoughts on this (bw idea)

shell sand
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so im going through the idea stuff

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wait i can just ctrl f 51

north fjord
harsh lion
north fjord
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I don’t even have it in me anymore

harsh lion
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||no aliens in gen 6 but there's aliens in gen 5||

shell sand
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ITS REAL

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ITS REAL

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iTS A REAL JOKE

harsh lion
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||well. there's specifically a lack of aliens in gen 5||

spice remnant
# shell sand <@1136114768042799175> if i can ask, is this guy in the filemaker files, and wha...

Oh yea this guy is pretty interesting
||Basically it's name is Piper, as a corruption of the word Pip meaning seed, though its later renamed Evolotto as in Evolution + Lottery
"When it evolves, it transforms into a variety of Pokemon"
So the gimmick around it seems to be like Wurmple where it just evolves based on RNG, except instead of just two possibilities it probably had many
I've seen some people think that it actually evolves into random existing pokemon but there's no real proof of that besides the fact that there's no slots in the data to place evolutions of it||

shell sand
spice remnant
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Oh wait the image you linked says all that

north fjord
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Oh wow dang

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They are really dangling the carrot huh

shell sand
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IERTEKDSJFHKJDGHKJSDHKJHSDG

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THEY DIDNT KNOW HOW CRUEL THIS WAS GOING TO BE

spice remnant
quartz nacelle
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Reminds me to bills garden
Except that after a lot of time, if you enter... Theres nothing