#Leaks for Pokémon
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also see PMD anime special stuff in here, but seems to just be credits
was there any confirmation on whether or not gen 10 will be on switch or only on the next nintendo console
we have no info to confirm your question with
leaker is mostly withholding gen 10 and ZA info
so dont get your hopes up
it's so fucked that the only thing stopping an entire game from getting dumped and spoiled early is one leaker's goodwill. Like I'm grateful they're not doing that don't get me wrong. But it's just a weird feeling
got to the card stuff (note: it's not just TCG) btw
how are there cards thats not just tcg
whats the card stuff...
SPIIICY
there's some high quality art (the ones on cards GF helped with)
this is old, not new
oh
also bit of promo stuff
delta pokemon cards
Tbh its probably less good will and more avoiding 17 years in prison and an astronomical bill
this did not fall into the wrong hands
that's for sure
or who knows
maybe they will change their mind in a week
ima bet that if they actually got ahold of the source codes
it will probably get leaked sooner or later
but fact check me on this
they do have the source codes of basicaly every other game
i dont really doubt that they have it
its just that we dont know if they want to risk jailtime and 2 million dollars fine
i wonder how did past source code leaks go? did they get leaked to the internet or nah
ok maybe they wont leak the source code but they will leak the plot and new mons for sure
they havent done that yet
its crazy that gen 10 is already like only a year away
as far as we know theyve been workign their way up chronologically
as a comp player i wanna know how screwed is competitive pokemon for the future
its always screwed if its vgc
i wanna know if the legendaries will be the unholy abomination that is pre nerf zacian-crowned
😄
either its gonna be trash or instantly banned from ubers
with the possibility of mega yveltal and xerneas too
no in between
if its mega zygarde ontop of complete form its going to banned to ubers and VGC is gonna just have to deal with it
mega xerneas will be unable to use power herb unless they pull a mega rayquaza
mega xerneas being in a freakily funny way more balanced than regular xerneas
i believe you meant banned FROM ubers
True!
they made arceus catchable for the first time in like 15 years
so anything is possible
do u mean making an event mon catchable?
yes
victini for gen 5
went back to go look at more RS docs, there's another one about Pokemon ideas
but we get there
ill wait for them to leak the stats and abilities of the mons
when we get there
EYES EMOJI
and hoopa for gen 6
these are the number 1 things i care for
what kiiiiind of ideas? 'w'
oh yeah
did you hear about mega jynx being real
105 speed 145 spa magic guard
pokemon games with even number generations have always had a remake of the half number generation since gen 4
first one is basically ||"A chipmunk+bear Pokémon. It has a large tail, and when it sleeps, it uses its tail as a pillow." (no name btw)||
erm its acshully spdef
gen 4 had a remake of gen 2
gen 6 had a remake of gen 3
gen 8 had a remake of gen 4
real lmao. They're prob fucked either way tho atp
internally the game lists the stats with speed before the special stats if thats what u mean unless u mean i the 135/145 mixup which yeah thas me being silly
(and yes, some do have names)
there's 15 entries
I'd love if you'd list them 🥺 ?
i wonder if the leakers have any info about genj 5 remakes
but the real question is
since that should have started development recently
if the plot for gen 10 ever did get leaked
would you be able to resist the temptation?
im pretty sure its most commonly thought to be set in greece so far
but thats like the only info
and also the code name
gaia
Prolly
yes
It’ll be far more than 2 million btw
gaia is the goddess of creation in greek mythology
basically earth
idc about spoilers personally if a game good a game will be good
- idrc about pokemon emotionally so
i would read gen 10 spoilers
earth-normal type mythical pokemon!
there was a ||peacock Pokemon found right, it's mentioned in here|| (still talking early RS stuff)
Ooohhh
I dont think there were any dex entries linked to it
would be fun to see what their ideas with it was
anyways gtg, lemme know if they change their minds
thats an ostritch
close enough
something like ||"A peacock Pokémon. From the front, it looks like a peacock spreading its wings, but from the side, its wings are round with multiple layers. This Pokémon is like a semicircle. By the way, it cannot fly." (no name again)||
we had a cat starter where the first 2 forms were 4 legged and the last form was 2 legged
this description is confusing to me
then we had one where the first form was 4 legged and the second 2 forms were 4 legged
now get ready
how is it a semicircle...
we will have a cat starter where all forms are 2 legged
The dude that was a middle man for piracy for Nintendo game, bowser, was ordered to pay 14.5 million dollars for the pirated video games over ~20 years
truly innovative
But this is far more than video games
same, but there's probably something I mistranslated somewhere
someone else will probably do better one eventually
This would be hammered down on harder
i wonder if they made a server where all the data was downloadable
the entire terabyte
i wonder if nintendo would DDoS it
thats what theyre currently doing
wdym that's what theyre doing
like all the data is downloadable?
or did they exclude the super important stuff
and we dont konw if theyre gonna have the super super important stuff
can u send a link or is that not allowed
so we have the gen 10 source code
and z-a source code
so we dont have the super super important stuff
ugh
youre underestimating the fact that we have such important shit like XY's betas and source codes for basically every game in the series
Bro thinks nintendo is a dude in their mother’s basement
its not even counting the gen 7 or gen 8 stuff
The only thing weird to me is I don't think we ever heard of anything happening to the gigaleak leaker right? though this teraleak definitely goes further and would warrant more action
or gen 9
no
what their plan was for that greyed out area
we're still at gen 6
in paldea
on one corner of the map
theres just this giant ass wall
that blocks you
I almost tried to post hololive stuff in this channel I think I have too much pokeleak brainrot right now
so maybe we will have gen 9 stuff in a few weeks
since the later the gen
the harder itll be to upload
for obvious reasons
the hololive gigaleak is going crazy
does anyone got a link
anyway, ||a 'plastic Pokemon' was proposed for gen 3, gives similar vibes in concept to Muk and later Trubbish; name was ピクス ('Pix') lol||
each gen will be password protected and bigger than the last so probably yeah
I have heard zilch of them having switch stuff besides ZA but who knows ig
to where all this stuff is downloadable
not allowed to link
No lmfao don’t ask
||Oh what?? this sounds so cool. do you think it was replaced by swalot line?||
wait
what does source code mean for game modding
👀
this opens up so much possibilities i bet
||could have been yeah||
||"Plastic Pokemon. It was born in a chemical factory. When plastic is thrown away in the forest or on the road, it will come to haunt you with terrifying force. Be careful!"||
It means really talented people can learn how to recreate the game from scratch but won’t so they don’t go to superjail
not sure if yall have seen this but its super promising ||https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1845560379428024713?s=46&t=4g89ZWXAZFqMgMQiOc5T6A||
the people online currently have basically seen everythin i think
||pokemon gaia will be similar to sun/moon apparently||
||you go from one island to the next to the next but probably in any order this time||
maybe
||SPLATOON POKEMON||
i dont really think they should keep going with open world if theyre not gonna level scale the game with your team or what you accomplished
||That concept reminds me of what the old man on the beach by slateport says - about how littering will come back to haunt you eventually. interesting||
||SPLATOOOON POKEMONNNNNNNNN||
reminds me of banette
pokemon ketamine and nicotine coming 2025
uhm
||it's called K and N||
please dont spoiler tag things that arent real
its literally called that tho
in japanese
not literally ||K and N||
||but the names start with K and N||
||Sea Slug Pokemon is mentioned in here 👀||
||the main theory is that K and N refer to Kaze and Nami which translates to Winds and Waves so gen 10 is called Pokemon Winds and Pokemon Waves||
||or pokemon ketamine and nicotine 😁||
||"A sea slug Pokémon with a beautiful tail. When something frightening happens, it drops its flower-like tail and runs away while its enemies are distracted by it." (again, no name)||
||woulda been cool to see shellos in gen 3 and gastrodon in gen 4||
oh ok thats just really different from what was in the final
bro can we MOVE ON ALREADY
my god
but guess this is where the start of the idea came from
||gen 1 just literally wont be making them any money at some point they gotta stop||
between this and other junichi masuda "hey there was this concept we didnt get to put in" it feels like this interviews never have the same actual mon concept in mind
yep
||maybe gen 10 movie||
||this pokemon looks like nothing special so i would bet maybe that this movie is set to come out after gen 10 comes out so this pokemon will not be unexpected because its a gen 10 pokemon||
we have no more information to go on with on those ends
||but apparently the movie is set to come out in 2024 so maybe its a Z-A pokemon that they're making an easter egg early or something||
very confusing
i dont think gamefreak actually does anything in conjunction with the media side anymore
well the media side cant just ||make a new pokemon and not elaborate||
||so i am sure itll make sense at some point relatively soon||
i mean sure but all that means is Gamefreak can add it and not elaborate either
like yknow
every other movie tie-in event mon
||i mean we still havent gotten a pecharunt movie so its probably devolved into a mess when it comes to pokemon media production at this point||
pretty sure the media side just came up with that youtube anim short and basically that was it
||oh original concept for Relicanth was originally proposed in this doc too||
||basically "Deep-Sea Pokémon. A Pokémon that lives in the deep sea. Its eyes have degenerated, giving it a fuzzy look. It moves slowly and is rumored to be an ancient fish." (still again, no name)|| (still RS)
that and Pecharunt is literally part of the plot in the game, so its not really the Media's side
Pecharunt was GF"s idea so they put it in their game
HOORAY IT LIVES ON
||this is from before SV even iirc, so doubt|| (about future stuff)
yeah i dont think centroleaks is a good source
uhh this is nightmare fuel!
they just kind of repeat what other people say and then they put their own thoughts on what they Think is going on in other people's posts
its a really bad way of finding things out
||this shit would have raised the age rating of pokemon RSE||
it really wouldnt
||okay yeah, thing that's from was June 30th, 2022||
my friend had an idea who the concept artist of the freaky gen 3 cocnept art was but we cuoldnt find any visuals of their work online whatsoever
||maybe its a scrapped pokemon. then||
just the fact tat they worked on a bunch of pokemon movies
im SCARED
not everything depicted means that it was gonna be a thing in the games
its all concept art, which can require a vague design to get the idea across
ummm who the hell is this
file titled "saiko inu"
anyway back to RS stuff, ||there's something very Frosslass-like proposed in here too, how many gen 4 stuff was proposed for gen 3???||
lit. psycho dog
uhh no thank you.
can confirm
oh you have it with you?
though in JP obviously
gamefreak was cooking up some creepy shit
not really
they just asked a guy for a bunch of concepts that they were going to change anyway
"give us some ideas"
he gave them very creepy ideas
and i mean the Cacturne concept art should show you how their process was
yeah
btw is specifically written as サイコ犬
inu can be a single character?
it's kanji yes
this has to be the pokemon with the worst beta designs right
it has like 3 shitty ones
uhm
idk how to tell you this but there's a reason this stuff is called "in-development"
then appreciate the goofiness
does anyone got a picture of the other ||manectric|| beta design
i think that one was even goofier
you can go to tcrf and you'll find a lot of better sources that are actually documented with names and descriptions
It must be a lot of fun to be an artist on these games (barring all the crunch that's bound to happen)
i would not like to be a gamefreak employee
i would love to be a HAL laboratory employee
That's real as hell. dream job
you can see for yourself on gen 3 tcrf page
freaky nosepass
Sir
i think this was confirmed fake iirc
||"Chilly Pokemon. If you find a place that's chilly while walking, this Pokémon is said to be there. A ghost Pokémon that looks like a pale female ghost."||
Why in the world do you think that’s a nosepass
ok good freakypass isnt real 😭
cuz of the red thingy
which nosepass also has on his head
oh ok hi froslass
First thats a probopass
again i think if u wanted to see stuff that isnt fake you should visit the tcrf page
Second
same difference
no
Its my mom
what is his nam e
Shelmet
freaky shelmet is not real
Yee
i honestly wonder what kind of modding opportunities this source code can open up
for all pokemon gmes
probably a lot
we're not modders though so i can't really tell you
well we are but for Kirby i think
I do recommend the cutting room floor since it's all genuine stuff and organized wayyy nicer- I've been seeing stuff as it comes out and watching stuff get confirmed fake so I'm all caught up but
Having the source code means you can recreate the game from scratch
i like the gen 3 beta maps page
Ignoring legalities it means someone can feasibly use it to create a native pc version of the game in question, for example
But yeah, modding in this regard would start to get way illegal, right?
yeah sadly distributing these highly capable mods would not be legal
not to say that it wouldnt happen anyways
the internet archive is right there
i think the modding scene is already doing a lot without the source code stuff
I dunno if it's worse than like emulators or only as bad
but this will give them basically documentation for everything
emulators are not bad
there is nothing illegal or wrong with emulators
common misconception ofc
Not wrong I can agree with but I've never heard of it being Legal exactly?
emulators are legal as long as the game you got is something you got yourself out of the physical product you bought
only the roms you put into emulators are often ilelgal
but not un-ethical ofc
anyone who is super stuck up over piracy needs to mind their business
thats not really how it works
there's a txt document with ||names or descriptors of every 'new' Pokemon; has numbers tied to graphics|| (RS still)
The thing about having the source code is that you can’t use it but you can absolutely We Didn’t Look At It while being able to write original code that does the exact same thing
||finalized new pokemon or every new pokemon tehy came up with in gen 3||
its just the sort of principle of defending a game that was made (sometimes lazily) by a multi billion dollar company from piracy, something is really odd about that
Ah right, so I meant emulating specifically
The bit about if you own it definitely makes sense, cool
i wonder when oras will start
they arent even done with XY so
so in like 2 days probably lol
||moreso the latter, definitely not final; also doesn't seem to be documented yet?||
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||guessing the '→' stuff in here is for name changes||
||ah definitely, with stuff like Elhawk to 'missing number' (and points to its Blaziken's ID number, not named still at this point)||
ahhh so this is the finalization process
||okay so this guy was originally ビィ('By'), and had its name changed to (or was replaced by something named) カモメール ('Kamomale')||
F for the bee
Oh btw ultrby there’s like a file that explains what the names of the gen III pokemon mean
Like a developer file
forget if I saw that one yet
don't think I did?
does it mention early ones or just final (guessing the latter)
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Ubausagi: 乳母 + うさぎ (Nursing + Rabbit) -> Had other potential names with no etymology: Tilnny and Ousagi.
Elhawk: El (Spanish for he) + Hawk
Biskyal: ハイビスカス + ギャル (Hisbiscus + Gyaru)
Kanbok: corruption of 灌木 (かんぼく -> Viburnum opulus)
Kodomin: 子供 + モスミー (Child + Mosumii) -> Either Mosumii was Kodomin's pre-evolution, and Kodomin was supposed to evolve, or Mosumii, Kodomin and a scrapped Pokémon were supposed to be a trio.
Mossmy: corruption of 苔 (Moss)
Flane: フラワー + 寝る (Flower + Sleep)
Otoma: 音 + オタマジャクシ (Sound + Tadpole) -> Supposed to evolve into Keromeero (ケロメーロ)
Plapass: プレーン + コンパス (Plane + Compass)
Piper: corruption of 種 (Pip)
Lighli: Light + Line
Archaeon: corruption of Archaeoptery
Ryllidy: アマリリス + レヂイ (Amaryllis + Lady)
Kurobosshi: 黒 + 起き上がり小坊師 (Black + Roly-poly Toy)```||
I KNEW IT
ITS A FREAKIN WRESTLER BIRD
THAT DAMN DESIGN IS CONNECTED TO 3 SPIRITUAL SUCCESSORS
||elhawk||
interesting
||it's cool how they gave pieces of elhawk to a bunch of different designs||
||Claydol (or whatever was there), was called シャコウド (Shakohdo) at this point||
To be specific its not one file rather every proto pokemon has like their own file that lists a bunch of info about them
ah, don't have the tool to look in those unfortunately
yeah, don't know of anything that can view them besides Filemaker itself
This do be dated exactly 20 years before fl release
Kirby brainrot moment
Route 119 (hoenn) didnt use to have a river
thats so cool seeing what they added and stuff
||doc says Kaen got replaced by Glalie preevolution (Snorunt) ||
which one is ||Kaen||
||one that was leaked few years ago in Nintendo Gigaleak stuff that we still don't have a design for pretty sure; it was Fire-type and had an evolution||
||a ボイスポケモン ('Voice Pokemon') with two evolutions (slots 473, 474, 475) is listed in here||
||oh guess that would be Whismur line right||
||Raltz line is described here as ミツル君使用のエスパー ('Psychic Pokemon used by Wally'), those Pokemon were made specifically for him?!||
I KNEW IT
that makes the whole spiderlily thing from OR/AS imply Ryllidy as Gardevoir even more
||btw, the slots are seperate from ユーウー ('Yuu'uu', the spider lily Pokemon) and stuff, so they were considered separate (though possibly inspired), at least at this point (unlike stuff like Elhawk to Blaziken)||
||oh yeah also, if anyone's wondering about the 391 slot, it was Poochyena at this point||
thats me
also || https://tcrf.net/images/d/d5/PKMNRS-Sootopolis_City_xls.png || beta sootopolis is so different
pulled this off Twitter - I'm sure it's been shared before but can someone verify it's all real
Swag ty
Originally ||Flygon line|| used to be like actual Dragonflies
but then someone was like hey we have an antlion mon
lets change it
also it was originally Bug/Flying
someone said it was aquatic as well?
thats part of its dex entries
||what we have lost...||
and is also based on real dragonflies
||on one hand I kinda like the design we got better and the typing is certainly stronger. But I wish the big bug got to be a big bug||
Is it true that ||Lady Gaga music was used as placeholder for X&Y's development||
Yes
what the fuck lmao
Born This Way, by the way
||wonder if they'd have given it aqua tail in later gens||
||vibrava has actually always been my favorite of the flygon line im a bit upset it was actually initially planned to be a big bug all the way||
LMFAOOO that's a good song
AYOOOOOOOO
I'm fucking wheezing lmao I need to hear footage
yeah it is
||he looks traumatized||
||yeah supposedly there was lot of placeholders like that for other games too||
||https://fixupx.com/octaspla2n/status/1846059292454953197?s=46 ||
IM FUCKING WHEEZING WHAT THE FUCK SJEKFLGLELFORLGODOFK
what the fuck gamefreak... this is in the early xy builds 😭😭😭 "STRM_BGM_TEST_03" im pissing myself
XY ost was fucking robbed
Can't believe espathra got its own boss theme
i wonder if these placeholder songs were meant to be references for the composers
nah
i like to think that tho lol. why else would it be there
considering XY leaning into eurobeat and edm, its very different id say
i mean this is edm
also theres other placeholder songs in previous games
now that im curious about
oh wait ive see nthat one hold on
||oh so it WAS firestarter||
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(RS) ||oh there's doc on ingame Braille stuff, is sort of like a guide (though I can't view the file properly, partially because don't know original filetype; can just see the text in it)||
Firestarter is mroe similar to XY's music than Born This Way
oh yeah wasnt there a whole team that worked on braille and they were noted in the credits of the og
iirc yeah
God you can just tell how old these games are lmao
it can be broader than just that tbh. XY feels like it took a lot more from pop music in general
i dont really want to go through it but my opinion is that i disagree
like when i think of an old game i think of old people making them so i dont really get surprised if something an old person would like is in the files
i mean were you just thinking of like the fight battles?
I am thinking of all of the tracks
then yeah it generally feels more pop for me (from what i remember), but nevermind all that then
I remember more orchestra and synth tracks
pop to me is like making sure you have a catchy hook as your main melody and i dont really think of XY as having many catchy hooks
not in that sense tho, more like, pop from like the 2010's, it reminds me of that a lot. also it may be because of my general nostalgia and childhood obsession with XY but i think it has a lot of catchy hooks especially in the routes
Born This Way has catchy hook
the most catchiest hook to me in all of XY is the trainer theme
the route music is orchestral though
no it isnt
What
some of it is orchestral but i think its more pop/edm iirc
What
what?? surely my memory isnt wrong lol. i mostly remember the orchestra being reserved for like... the towns and victory road???
(RS still) ||oh there's early ability doc in here, first thing I see that's interesting is that トッター (Tottaa) got Insomnia (is the only one listed for it in here too)||
I dont think any game has had edm as its route music motif since Gen 4
is that the totem-like thing
this guy
yea
i guess i may have mistaken one of the cities themes for that. ill relisten later just to jog my memory then, cus i was sure i can recall all the songs well
the most interesting/different city track from the orchestral stuff is Anistar City and its very atmospheric and has a slow pace, even having ticking clock as part of its instruments
unless youre in a technological area or in battle, XY almost always has an orchestra playing in your ear
||oh Wooper and Quagsire are listed as having Oblivious in this (and again, only ones to do so in here)||
Oh yeah game that introduced abilities
went through the ost and the other city that would be is Cyllage City
which actually does sound like pop yeah
but for the most part XY is orchestral in the overworld and more edm/synthy in battles
ya thats the one iw as thinking of! its the catchiest theme for me so it never leaves my mind wheneve ri think of XY lol.
||Blastoise was listed as having Water Absorb||
its unfortunate that its the main outlier and not the vibe
LOL
they were gonna give starters good abilities?!
impossible.
Aliens
well it was only possible gen 5 onwards
its crazy cus i did remember XY ost mroe for its EDM tracks than the orchestral tracks. i guess i gaslit myself in a way>
Alien bros will still believe though we will survive
the more i see xy betas the more i doubt that entire post
Alien bros will survive
it describes Viola as a ghost type gym leader and yet they seem to have been bug type from the start
even if the alien thing was fake, id imagine itd be an idea that was considered very early in development and just. none of it made it becuase they wanted an easier project to develop in a quicker time
so it was a complete rehash with no mercy for the older concepts
also space as a concept wasn't relaly unique to XY and XY is actually the outlier for not having something from space
||Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are listed as having Limber, good god how many abilities were originally conceived for one line of Pokemon and then just ended up not getting it||
wait
and the mega stones as well as the crystal poke may be the last traces of it repurposed into an entirely new concept
Clay ngl you’re sounding like the type to tell a child that Santa isn’t real
which would be weird to say since he is real, right
who could say Santa's not real, he's right here!
Yeah there he is
Oh thanks heavens. was worried for a moment there
Hitmonlee does have limber
Merry Christmas everyone
||ah, Hitmonchan doesn't though in final||
Yeah it has a lamer ability
Iron Fist was gen 4
What does it have now
it had Keen Eye in gen 3
Ah gross
||Hitmontop had an ability called かそくそうち (idk what exactly later part of this means, 'Aceleration' something?), which raised speed by one stage every turn, can guess why that was cut||
isnt that
they simplified the ability name to just かそく
also hitmontop with that ability sounds insane
yeah order matches up too
yeah looking at hitmontop's stats it wouldve loved that ability
just the riiight stat spread to start abusing it after a turn
||Vaporeon originally got Drizzle||
Oh shit
You'd think it would be ||Kyogre|| exclusive
but I guess even before gen 5, they thought of giving that ability to mons
||yeah, it was originally meant for Vaporeon too, this was very early||
freaky alternate timeline where tyranitar meta in gen 3 was trumped by the fishcat
||also Butterfree originally got Shield Dust (listed alongside Venomoth, which did get it)||
||Flash Fire was originally for Charizard line||
@harsh lion lol
w.. what did Venusaur get
These beta abilities are fire
not even listed in here lol
thats wild
insane?
||Blastoise gets Water Absorb, Charizard Flash Fire, and Venusaur gets ?????????||
||tbf this was very early, like 'only 20 abilities listed' early||
i think Venusaur is when they realized "wait this doesnt make sense"
||Shuckle got Immunity; Slowpoke line got Cloud Nine (originally のうてんき here); Compact Eyes is listed for Venomoth line (Venomoth is only one with two abilities in here)||
I think I listed all of them that got changed?
||Immunity Shuckle 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥||
ah did someone go and translate it already
also see a ||mail doc, did not realize the Dream Mail was supposed to represent Jirachi lol||
Looks like camerupt is the only gen III mon listed here
i guess its vaguely space related
||well I already listed what that was, it wasn't Camerupt, it's トッター||
Ohhhh
||whoever looked at it probably got confused because Camerupt's early name was ドンキィ||
weird
just to show
Ah yea || トッター is tottaa||
giving it to ||Tottaa|| is really weird because the presumed mon that succeeded its existence didnt get it
||oh found Elite Four doc, forget if it was mentioned here yet||
eyes emoji
||just looking at Phoebe's section rn, basically like "She is related to an old woman on Mt Pyre. While playing on Mt. Pyre, she became able to communicate with Ghost-type Pokémon. She is aware that she still needs more training as a Pokémon Trainer, but she is proud of her "ability to communicate"."||
||tbh I didn't know actual English definition of Pyre (or know about equivalent used in JP name) before translating this lol||
||for Sidney, basically "He tries to genuinely enjoy Pokémon battles. He does not care about his rank in the Elite Four. Rather, he thinks it is better to be ranked fourth in the Elite Four so that he can fight with various trainers at their best. His style seems to be to stand slanting."||
||for Steven Stone, basically "He is the son of the Devon President and a Pokémon League Champion. However, his father does not know that he is the champion. When he was 19 years old, he left home and started his Pokemon training. Although he is unaware of it, his behavioral style is heroic. He has excellent looks and is somewhat of a narcissist. His hobby is collecting rare stones. He meets the protagonist at places related to stones, such as the place where a meteorite fell."||
ah, that's what that song's from? btw, posted the pic earlier (not in best quality though)
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more look at internally used tools I guess (for gen 3)
not sure if any of the sprites are new
Bro that is SUCH an old music player
||not sure I'll do the other two for now||
||oh my god there's yet another doc for Pokemon concepts||
||mosquito was considered for gen 3?||
||really this lists like a ton of animals and things lmao||
||"Pixel Pokemon (pre-Porygon)"||
||oh pre-evo of Snorlax is mentioned in here; "Pre-evolution of Snorlax (to find out why it eats and sleeps all the time)"||
||there's Poke Ball doc, but everything in it is in the final||
||oh right, there's also earlier version of the Gym Leader doc||
||there's a doc that talks about Cities and what Badges their Gyms give, think this matches final||
think I'm done with this for now
game of the year
||I need a Kalosian Stunfisk||
||god i havent gotten that beta south kalos map out of my mind||
||Stunfisk was hidden in south Kalos||
i wonder if|| Zygarde was initially supposed to be put there, like how you can only get Giratina and Kyurem in the postgames of DP/BW, but was moved when those areas never became real and the map was downsized||
did you see the gif flashing the final kalos against the one iwth the old one
a lot of the dots were moved to the northern side
Oh yeah this just ||confirms my theory about zygarde and terminus cave||
pretty sure one of them is uhhh the Kalos power plant ?
doubt that was moved, think that one was just added
the lost hotel too
azure bay
power plant has been shown to be given a big placeholder graphic during the really early XY builds
i had to crop it because the vp thread was beefin with some guy
Sea Spirits Den is one i can see being moved from south
as in, it was going to be in the south, but couldn't be, ofc
Where you fight the Kanto bird right?
ya
tbf, doesn't mean stuff wasn't ever in consideration
always had a weird name
Which is also postgame material 🔥
isnt it straight up XY post game anyway or
the list of ||things that were added onto the final version from this one are reflection cave, azure bay, kalos power plant, lost hotel, terminus cave, and chamber of emptiness||
most of those I just feel are "lets add a map spot for this thing that was always going to be here", but some I feel were moved
if you mean Sea Spirit's Den, it's named that because Lugia
||also the connecting cave dot is further to the east than in the final game||
also Azure Bay is the name of the route, not the cave itself 🤓 ☝️
ah mixed it up
was thinking of the area before yea
well actually that area was also added anyways 🤓
though obviously English name feels weird with how they localized it
||chamber of emptiness 🤝 scorched slab || having basically nothing
||Z-A kalosian lugia and ho-oh||
that was never confirmed but its probably the most likely candidate outside of a new pokemon
||until oras added heatran anyways||
They were not lying
That chamber is emptiness
finally caught up ||omg southern kalos real||
its called Watatsumi's Den in JP, that being the name of a Japanese dragon and tutelary water deity in Japanese mythology.
trying to catch up to pokemon leak thread while people are still posting
TRUE
of course, but also Lugia was straight up called 海の神 in JP before lol
compared to area being 海神の穴
Ah i did not know that
too lazy to go get pic in games themselves, but here it is on a card (entry originally from Silver, and in bunch of later games)
and obviously JP version of movie calls it that as well
it's a terabyte's worth of information
yeah, and a bit of GBs have been released already
MA GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
An entre fucking terabyte got leaked
think about how much gets leaked from like a 10gb game
Its hard to believe
and that's not even a directly accurate comparison
Ill
I’ll probably have to catch up with videos onlke
…apart from a specific leak that i know is becoming a huge meme and is also very bad
oh the bunny one yeah that ones very cute
the top looks like a dragon......
it was probably meant to capture a rough silhouette of a dragon
what with the pigtails as the wings and the bow as the horns
i mean
how are we supposed to do that
beyond just telling you in vague terms it's hard
like today or in general lmao
you could go look at the cutting room floor for the beta designs
that's an easy place to go look that has them compiled and with some nice documentation
otherwise we can only tell you in very broad terms
||which, especially with her champion design, DOES tie her more to the hydreigon being her main pokemon||
...ace?
is that the right word?
||https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Ruby_and_Sapphire/Pokémon_Data ||
this isn't a recap of everything but it's a staerting place
i always associated her with that more than the ||haxorus||
it's the unused mons from gen 3
there's beta sprites, concept art, internal conversations, early builds, early music, and more for basically all of game freak at least from gen 3 and onwards
tcrf wiki is slowly updating with everything
and also some non pokemon stuff
yeah, and even those aren't fully documented yet lmao
yeah, Drill Dozer stuff, unreleased SFC version of Quinty, little bit of HarmoKnight stuff, 2 unreleased DS games, and an unreleased Yoshi SFC remake (partially ported over and used as test for BW)
this one beta volbeat artwork i like
it's the same as the final one but has the much nicer gen 2 anime colors
and lot of docs
just ask if you needa nything specific i guess
it's hard to compile everything that has leaked because it's just So Much
yup
plus some people are throwing fake stuff in the middle to complicate even further
like gaturro.
Alien bros stay losing
this is the only real leak that's come out so far
factual everything else was fabricated
anyways it's been funny putting emotes on top of the thread to relate to the leak lol
mannequin
???
oh she doe look liek one
what no eyes does to a mfer
im pretty sure theres eyes if wecan just an even clearer look
also apparently the reason the ||Fairy Badge appears|| behind Viola is just the fact that its the only badge they have done and all the other Gym leaders use Calem's art as a placeholder and the badge as a placeholder
gay icon
|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728997126216242.webm|| another video of people checking if southern kalos was real
(it is)
||ngl even with that alien encounter theme there's really nothing that suggests it's like the rest of the rumor
like for all we know it was just tied to a funny sidequest like they did for that o-power guy in sun/moon||
alien encounter theme was confrmed fake
It figures
REMEMBER HOW I SAID I USED TO OBSESS OVER MODELS THAT APPEAR DURING ATTACKS
||https://streamable.com/ulxyuv
https://streamable.com/wwuk3h ||
Past me would go crazy at this
tbh I love viewing attack animations so this is a treat for me too
||GIANT FUCKING FOOT FROM ABOVE||
that. foot model. is unfortunately shaded.

idk what this means
|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728998657163069.png || apparently the e4 use a single rattata as a placeholder
nice
Only the toughest challenge for the e4
||F.E.A.R. flashbacks||
God forbid
apparently Talonflame was in the process of being tested with a higher attack stat too
Interesting
how high.
That would mean priority to ||these moves||
drought is better, glad they went with that
I agree
YEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
insane
||126 attack????||
||order is hp, attack, defense, speed, special attack, special defense||
wheres the yoshi remake
wait zard doesnt learn hurricane??
not in earlier gens
not that it'd need it either, its 50% in the sun
i think it first got hurricane in gen 8?
^
||Well it doesnt get sun on its own if it gets gale wings instead of drought, but damn that would've been useless
Gale Wings Air Slash lol||
Thats it's gen 6 flying learnset
||Gale wings tailwind 🔥||
||Imagine the gale wings rain hurricane Mega Charizard Y
||
||With Politoed 💀||
HP Water Hurricane Bug Buzz Quiver Volcarona in rain 💧💧💧💧💧💧
||https://streamable.com/wfhrke
https://streamable.com/gac95d ||
even earlier suepr training than the one I showed ig
||shadow maractus?????????||
what the fuck was that
that loks so scuffed 😭
cute gen 5 wild pokemon remix tho
Even unreleased Volcorona is a problem
#1028079151091027978 message
Yep, audio here
||Unova|| Wild pokemon
that reminds me
I have 0 idea whats like
the in-universe public perception of mew
like do people know about it enough that its like a rare mon that people can catch or is it like
juts a really well known roaming pokemon that is never caught
but documented enough for people to have opinions on it
because the anime like Journeys theres literally a kid just "I WANT TO CATHC MEW"
i think people know of it but very very few people have ever actually seen it
Mew truck myth in universe
in-universe twitterlong thread debunking mew:
these women clearly have their priories in the right place
@spice remnant if i can ask, is this guy in the filemaker files, and what is it described as?
koffing straight up
beta stats for XY
||> Clawitzer: -29 special attack||
LOL i just saw a fucking text post that could be true but i havent found a real source for it
an idea from Gen 5 or something apparently but i havent verified if its real
I think they're just making fun of the aliens
the real elgyem spawn place
yeah exactly lol
theres a few aliens in Unova itself than Kalos
only elgyem line right
Gothita line has some references to space but also
Elgyem line is so obviously Western Alien
Yea it's only them
So an adultery event and a little weird event
i can see why these were scrapped
This is insane
So these are supposed to be for xy or what?
||TYRANTRUM WITH 141 ATTACK CMONNNNNN||
Gen 5
Or gen 5?
and then b2w2 had that other one anyway
Well ||bw2 has Yancy and curtis||
NaTuRal harmonia gropius plotline
oh wtf crazy strong
I havent verified if these are real or not but theres enough written here that I wanted to share it + i find the first idea hilarious
its something theyd do
maybe area 51 was gonna be for the desert resort
would have made more sense than there being an ancient egyptian sand castle in america
I'm fairly sure there's s9me dialogue at ||anville town similar to that train platform dialogue, or maybe in battle subway||
oh i forgot to send this one
wait a minute...
||I don't remember anything about getting more familiar with a shopkeeper though. Maybe join avenue at a stretch||
||if this is true, they might have combined this and the idol one||
why was it so MEAN
||in the final game, you meet an idol going incognito in public, and then you stumble into a relationship with them where you keep trading pokemon||
sassy menu
||this one reminded me of the little applin sidequest in swsh||
ok theres a filepath
||that just reads like you'd be giving the guy the same pokémon that the girl has so it's pretty much like the applin sidequest just I guess less absurd lol||
i cant verify this myself because i dont know what an xls file is
but if someone wants to check
I mean it'd pretty much just be faye
or ultrby
Ok the files in there
i wonder if i can open it with anything
oh i can
get ready for some deepl translations because I can't read japanese!
three ideas for gen 5/bw
3 more ideas + i found where that Older Sister Shop Regular Discount one is
^oh those first two are really cool
More BW ideas
i love the last idea a lot actually
another set of 4
help theres like
300 lines
im only at 70
we take a break from whatever im doing for beta mega stats
i havent seen any yet
@tropic pollen
WHEN YOU SEE IT
oh well I guess its the first line I didnt read the first line
wait a goddamn minute
Lmao
Ohhhh myyyy gooooddddd
||165 base attack mega gyarados with strong jaw crunch is unhinged. pic unrelated||
||MEGA BLAZIKEN SHOULDVE HAD MOXIE||
||mold breaker isn't too bad at least. Not like losing 20 speed||
||Speed boost into moxie is VILE||
||blaziken struck a deal with masuda to keep speed boost in exchange for garchomp getting fucked over||
||also holy shit mega houndoom couldve been so bad. and. mega scizor couldve had 170 base attack??????||
||na mold breaker is actually rly good youd be surprised at how much use that has in comp||
No ik
||but LOL strong jaw stab crunch with 165 base attack would've been insane||
The eon duo sob
||w.e. bro, Mega Chomp will have scale shot in gen 10||
oh my god
if
||if mega houndoom had kept these stats||
||it would've been the Cacturne of megas.||
LMAOOOO
||75/110/90/140/90/95. yeah thats a 600 bst cacturne||
||also that's insane why did they give it 110 base attack originally but the ability was solar power anyway||
||i think it'd be funny if game freak actually took notice of blaziken getting banned from singles ou solely because it has speed boost and realized "oh shit maybe giving its mega moxie isn't the brightest idea"||
||I wish it had moxie so bad tho 😭||
Lowkey i think chainchomp is a cool ass set anyway so idm the distribution it has
is that what ppl call scale shot garchomp
WAIT
It was Draco, EQ, stone edge, fire blast
THERES BETA DRILL DOZER MuSIC
Vocaroo is a quick and easy way to share voice messages over the interwebs.
@rose junco THIS WAS FOUND IN ONE OF THE EMAILS?
this was also usable on mega Chomp
ahhh
yeah im pretty sure Mega chomp was mostly used as a mixed attacker
or at least thats how i remember it
so much interesting stuff
they really tried to go all out in bw
what the FUCK does this mean
i think its more like they were spitballing professionally and frequently and it was a lot of good ideas
and then theres uhm
||maybe they had an NPC called Jom Bravolta for that location which. lmao||
a lot of questionably worded stuff
ive seen them posted and i havent checked translations/jisho/doublechecking but it was definitely a concept
its referencing John Travolta
and its just . Why
||yeah I mean they would've had that bc its a dance club and he shows up every saturday night i think it's a funny reference||
||IDK if there's anything like that in pokémon games that i recall though||
i think Gen 2-7 has a lot events that are weekday-based
ok so i went looking for anything remotely similar on bulbapedia and found this. This is cringe
oh no I meant like
wait
there's a lot of quotes but i don't know if there's a character who's just named after a celebrity
kind of silly
In Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!, two Master Scientists that use Zubat and Golbat are named West and Keaton, who share their names with Adam West and Michael Keaton, respectively, actors who have played the superhero Batman.
I guess??????????????????????
NOOOOOOO I WANT THISSSS
In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity, after the player's first meeting with Swanna, she says "You can call me Swanna if you want. Just don't call me maybe.", referencing the Carly Rae Jepsen song "Call Me Maybe."
alright
no im talking about a specific one
specifically the trait about the "being chased into a cul-de-sac"
Badly want like a discotek or something
Yesterday i came up with a fakemon idea/in the event there was a Pokemon contest and i somehow won it
Elephunk. Its a dancing bipedal elephant. He got a disco ball that he throws in the air and makes it hover cuz its part psychic.
sounds fun
i would vote Yes for it, especially if it was Gen 3 era and we're all the gen 3 devs
Has there been anything neat in the past couple of hours besides ||old stats and abilities||
i found a program that can open some of the files
so im going through the idea stuff
wait i can just ctrl f 51
Man
would've been cute
I don’t even have it in me anymore
||no aliens in gen 6 but there's aliens in gen 5||
||well. there's specifically a lack of aliens in gen 5||
Oh yea this guy is pretty interesting
||Basically it's name is Piper, as a corruption of the word Pip meaning seed, though its later renamed Evolotto as in Evolution + Lottery
"When it evolves, it transforms into a variety of Pokemon"
So the gimmick around it seems to be like Wurmple where it just evolves based on RNG, except instead of just two possibilities it probably had many
I've seen some people think that it actually evolves into random existing pokemon but there's no real proof of that besides the fact that there's no slots in the data to place evolutions of it||
Oh wait the image you linked says all that
The image you linked is in fact just the text from the filemaker files translated
Reminds me to bills garden
Except that after a lot of time, if you enter... Theres nothing