Leaks for Pokémon

[spare hare]

it is a VERY fanservicey concept

[marble sand]

||THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW EGGS ARE MADE omg||

[marble sand]

lmao yeah it is

And it works well for what the game is but I overthink it too much lmao

[spice timber]

ngl i hope that in dlc2 ||some of the characters are related to others, but not in super obvious ways like that||

[ivory prawn]

||Nah it's now a trap remix||

[spare hare]

||looker not appearing in bdsp or pla but appearing in paradox unova|| 🔥

[spice timber]

||like the thing people were saying with lacey being related to clay without looking 90% like him||

[ivory prawn]

||Me when Arceus generating AI art is the first and only time the creation of an egg has been witnessed in canon||

[marble sand]

||pokemon are just very cognizant of when people are watching||

[spare hare]

get that shit out of my picnic basket

[marble sand]

FR

[rough kelp]

or their ||genes is like, VERY VERY strong||

so strong it ||overrides their partners's||

[marble sand]

||pokemon genetics are fucked up||

[rough kelp]

tbf sometimes ||their genes are also mega weak. roark looks nothing like byron. his hair is not even red||

[marble sand]

||i just assume Byron has lighter hair bc of age||

[rough kelp]

and if we assume that leak is true ||drayden's gene weak ahh hell||

[marble sand]

||Or byron's wife wasn't being 100% honest||

[rough kelp]

actually I guess ||the white hair stayed||

[spare hare]

||he's got yellow eyes too||

[spice timber]

||oh||

[spice timber]

necrolipe thing ||https://vxtwitter.com/necrolipe/status/1710904945774375157 ||

i'm pretty sure he's saying ||that it's paradoxical how detective pikachu has a lot of johto references, while the chinese leakers are saying unova||

i'm also pretty sure he has insider info

[runic prawn]

yes

||the paradox of the future of the pokémon franchise, where detective pikachu has many references to johto, and the chinese insiders point towards unova||

[spice timber]

there's somethin weird here, because i think this is the first time someone major like this has mentioned ||johto||

[tropic pollen]

||i mean Kitakami has a lot of references to Johto too||

[spice timber]

||yeah, kitakami is basically equivalent to johto in everything but name and location||

[rough kelp]

so ||kalos bros how we feelin||

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-springtrap-vhs-squimpus-mcgrimpus-nonexistent-video-gif-22146534

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-spongebob-flrtren-mr-krabs-biting-hospital-gif-20978435

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/origin-palkia-gif-25664771

[rough kelp]

you know i never realize it did the horse head movement too

[split swan]

I kind wonder if we ||may get a johto game based on the original vision back when Tajiri was heading the project||

[shell sand]

girl

no

[candid nebula]

||My prediction of Johto games before Unova coming true? ||

[shell sand]

also ||Detective Pikachu having references for johto could simply just be "detective pikachu is set on a western area and johto is ltierally just based on japan the most"||

[spice timber]

oh

that's ||tera ghost||

||there is a tera ghost milotic in the crystal pool in kitakami||

[spare hare]

insane detail

for something that you would never know outside of datamining

[tropic pollen]

||GIRL IS DEAD?????||

[harsh lion]

||u say this but just u wait until it comes back in indigo disk... and evolves 😈||

[spice timber]

clearly ||the dipplin evo evolves from milotic||

[hot zenith]

||Applin --> Dipplin --> Milotic --> ???||

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[harsh lion]

||choose ur fighter||

[spare hare]

Good drawings

[spice timber]

hooooly fuck

||right one easily||

[wanton trail]

||that is… alarming.||

[spice timber]

i think khu just debunked the ||stuff from the leaker he was posting||

he posted a gigantic tweet to that extent, and also called them "safe guesses" in the replies

[spare hare]

That doesn't mean what they're saying is false at all

In fact that literally implies they're right

Also I checked and it's literally just khu going on a massive manbaby rant about them being the only real source of information or whatever

[tropic pollen]

Awesome

[marble sand]

We love khu

[vestal arch]

information leakers be normal challenge

[runic prawn]

lol

honestly would be funny if pyoro actually did pokémon leaks

[surreal vault]

I mean...he DID disprove the 'Crawdaunt leak'

[runic prawn]

oh yeah

[wanton trail]

What was the crawdaunt leak again?

[spice timber]

it was a rumor that the mon getting a special form in teal mask would be crawdaunt

the thought was that it was between crawdaunt and mightyena, until a khu hint was deciphered to say that its type was normal/ground

[wanton trail]

Welp

We all know what happened there lol

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/legends-arceus-ursaluna-gif-24896840

[wanton trail]

I think we all know where ||the Zombie names found in datamining are gonna come from now||

||Indigo disk is turning into something crazy||

[tropic pollen]

New Khu tweet, ||people are saying it could be a hint to Dokutaro’s ability||

||its an illustration of a poisoned poochyana with three icons underneath. Khu is asking which one is right. Seems like Dokutaro’s ability either traps, flinches or confuses poisoned targets||

[torn ore]

||Or if we're looking at it from Khu fashion, probably all three||

[ivory prawn]

Well ||flinch makes no sense and traps makes the most sense so…||

[spare hare]

||i don't see why flinch makes no sense tbh, they could just give it increased flinch chance on poisoned pokemon or something||

||trapping would be interesting||

||it's kind of funny that the loyal three have already been taken out of the story though bc their ability would work well with this for a plot battle||

[tropic pollen]

||im surprised it doesn’t have merciless||

||maybe it points to it being more of a defensive mon?||

[spare hare]

||going towards it being more manipulative ig||

||classic annoying bitch Poison type that statuses the hell out of you||

[wanton trail]

||indeed||

[rough kelp]

gamefreak give ||merciless to other pokemon challenge (impossible)||

[hot zenith]

Really? ||Nothing else has Merciless? That's just..................... brutal!||

[spice timber]

kinda just mentioning this here as a talking point

||tf, bug dipplin maybe?||

[rough kelp]

judging by the previous cases ||none of these||

[spare hare]

||bro is actually gonna get ripped from dokutaro? just like okidogi? lol||

[harsh lion]

||and for his 6th team slot, he has a gun||

[spare hare]

||>dipplin

archaludon
sinistea convergent
gun

swsh remakes are coming||

[vestal arch]

||yooo unovan remoraid||

[harsh lion]

||>legends unova with galar postgame. kalos who||

[spice timber]

(story spoilers) bro ||this fucker's about to snag terapagos from under our noses||

||that or he takes our raidon||

[wanton trail]

HUH

[tropic pollen]

||NO KLINK....||

[spare hare]

game sucks ass

||good thing we're getting unova games 🔥 ||

[harsh lion]

||klinklang will NEVER have an 80 power 100 accuracy physical steel-type move||

[tropic pollen]

this is how discussion is going to be for the rest of eternity

||"oh this game wont have Lanturn? ass"||

[spare hare]

and in that case? they'd be right.

but yea pokemon discourse moment

[spice timber]

swsh are the best games in the series because someone made a conscious effort to put maractus in them

[harsh lion]

how much time do u guys think I have to get a switch until pokemon bank dies

[spare hare]

at least until april 2024

[harsh lion]

asking here only bc

[spare hare]

and probably a bit after

[harsh lion]

WHAT isn't that when 3ds goes boom im sure theyll give me like another year 💔

[spare hare]

yea i mean like, since they specified bank wasn't going down it'll presumably last longer than april 2024

since everything else is going down then

[harsh lion]

im gonna try to rip someone off for a new switch + pokemon home by my birthday 2024 😁

[spare hare]

🙏

[harsh lion]

(Or like, preferably, get a job

[spare hare]

although tbh with all the rumors of a new switch coming next year maybe you should wait lol

especially if it's gonna be backwards compatible

[harsh lion]

Fairrrrr I hope it is i just want to have all my mons together after 3+ years of this not being a possibility ;(

[tropic pollen]

im gonna say either september 2024 or march 2025

[spare hare]

yea i get you

i don't think it would be too soon after april 2024

[spice timber]

i have to imagine bank is gonna go on at least for 6 or so months after the 3ds wifi dies

[spare hare]

if they're bothering to extend it at all with no concrete date as of now

[harsh lion]

"September 2024" CRAZY hating

[tropic pollen]

im not hating. im being pessimistic.

[harsh lion]

My birthday is this month you cannot manifest september 💔

having a deadline to get like 280 bucks is kinda funny I will say

(I found a switch for 220 at a store like two weeks ago)

[spare hare]

if they do cancel it i think they'll give plenty of notice

[spare hare]

||the 4 paradoxes are gonna get the paradox abilities, so those are out||

||we've seen both of archaludon's normal abilities, it could have a new ha but i doubt it||

||considering the pokemon we have left, it seems appropriate for dokutaro and terapagos to be the 2 mons that get the 4 new abilities? ||

||my guess is that this is probably bc of tera forms, since ogerpon also has unique abilities in its tera form||

either ||3 terapagos and 1 for the other mon, or 2 for terapagos and 2 for the other mon||

[tropic pollen]

||I could see terapagos’ ability changing when terastalizing||

||like ogerpon||

[spare hare]

||about to be the new most broken shit||

[tropic pollen]

||Speaking of Tera do you think were still gonna see those “Tera forms” Khu talked about months ago||

[spare hare]

||i just assumed that was what ogerpon got||

[torn ore]

||3 abilities for all three Terapagos forms||

[tropic pollen]

||right but there was something with the starters too||

[torn ore]

||Wasn't that an April Fools tweet though. Like half of it is real, half of it is fake||

[rough kelp]

I think ||2-2, one for normal terapagos one for tera terapagos, 2 for dokutaro, to match with loyal three I guess?||

||actually it could just have 1 new HA and toxic chain||

[tropic pollen]

||i remember Khu saying something about the raids and the typings being important or somth||

[spice timber]

one of these ||might also be for dipplin evo, depending on what they do with it?||

[wanton trail]

(Joking) ||Guys I figured out what Khu meant by Kieran being physically armed||
||Kieran collects the 7 chaos mochi and becomes Super Kieran||

In all seriousness ||We got the 7 heads clue, and now 7 mochi. I wonder what significance 7 has for DLC2||

[spice timber]

khu did also explicitly say that (spoilers?) ||the lady that runs the stall the dokutaro plushie is at is sus||

[wanton trail]

Good point

(Spoilers/Theory) ||TyranitarTube also just dropped a new theory about the clues that maybe Dokutaro can only control a specific number of beings at a time, that being 7. So my theory that the 7 Dokutaro controls are Kieran, the loyal 3, the two rivals you don’t save, and Terapagos (formerly the version exclusive professor)||

[spice timber]

oh hey cool ||they might expand on how the ai professors used master balls to catch the paradoxes they used against you||

[harsh lion]

||>Purple and pink
God bless||

||The peach mon fuses with a master ball||

[spare hare]

||warios underwear will be canon||

[spice timber]

||dokutaro breaking the protagonist's spirit by turning a master ball upside down so it looks like wario underwear and then laughing maniacally||

[wanton trail]

||the most evil thing ever||

[tropic pollen]

||Oh no the possessed will have the majin M on them||

[spice timber]

(khu) ||dokutaro taking inspiration from peak (minior)||

[silver shore]

||Which mon is khu talking about here?||
|| https://fxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1714548419124244812?s=20 ||

[tropic pollen]

||mewtwo or charizard im thinking||

[torn ore]

||Charizard would be my guess. I wonder if this means Tera forms for other mons are still a thing or they were scrapped||

[spice timber]

i think ||it's probably mewtwo? what i'm getting from this is that they just cut one of the tera forms, and zard had an entire tcg set about it already||

[surreal vault]

(Khu) Uh...what the fuck is this supposed to mean

[spice timber]

according to the comments ||that's a digimon that kinda bears a resemblance to the terapagos we saw in the scarlet/violet book||

[spare hare]

||he's been talking a lot about stuff with 7 heads and he posted the image of the 7 mochis before too||

||here you can also see something similar with the 7 colored circles, apparently those represent the 7 deadly sins or something||

idk wtf gf is doing lol

[spice timber]

i think i get it

(speculation) ||the 7 heads thing refers to dipplin's evo being a hydra of sorts with many heads, and the stuff with the master ball/kieran stealing something/this digimon is pointing towards kieran yoinking terapagos from us and then going around wrecking shit with it||

[vestal arch]

probably thinking too hard but ||19th tera icon's all rainbow-y iirc and rainbows have 7 colors, no i don't know where i'm going with this||

[spice timber]

so it'd be something like ||kieran goes to area zero with dokutaro, dokutaro gives him a chain or other way to evolve dipplin and then gives him the means to snag terapagos for revenge against the protag, which then simultaneously gives dokutaro control over terapagos itself||

idfk what the stuff about ||dokutaro opening up and having a second form|| is about though

[spare hare]

||this might just mean terapagos gets a unique tera form on its form that's actually called terastal form||

[spice timber]

i think he means that ||"terastal form" is just a specific form for one mon, while "terastallized state" is an actual tera form like what we've thought||

[spare hare]

this is what i mean

[split swan]

clues based on this digimon (spoilers for potential Indigo Disk story) ||A combination of 7 things since the Digimon (Lucemon Satan Mode) has the 7 crowns of the 7 demon lord digimons. A Dragon holding a sphere, which is kinda like the version of Terapogos in the book where the creature is circling around a sphere. A sphere containing something, since Satan Mode's sphere conceals Lucemon Larva.||

[spice timber]

i guess in this case that'd symbolize everything khu's been talking about

||the 7 heads schtick that's been attributed to dipplin (and kieran by extension?), terapagos being stolen or having its power abused by kieran, and dokutaro's supposed inner form||

[spice timber]

oh well this makes it obvious lmao

[rough kelp]

ah I love the current state of pokemon leaks

I wish every future leaks from now a very not come from a weirdo sources 👏

[torn ore]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1714812071416885758?t=CODNTjmbp3vfW1DfR6zfEg&s=19 UBbros.... not like this....||

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-crying-gary-come-home-spunchbop-gif-22461413

||man, that insanely sucks||

[torn ore]

||So you telling me they gave UBs their own subcategory in the code like Paradox mons instead if being grouped with the sub legends in this gen, only for them to possibly not return lmao||

||https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1714815114724163819?s=20 maybe his next reply gives a lil bit of hope.... please... my Naganadel....||

[spare hare]

yea i was gonna say

his next reply literally says the opposite

[spice timber]

perhaps it's like ||how they were handled in swsh, being unlocked separately from all the other legendaries||

[spice timber]

(khu responding to fanart)

||peakutaro incoming?||

[marble sand]

that art is sick I gotta agree

Maybe he's like ||"no this isn't it at all but damn cool art" ||

[surreal vault]

This is peak as hell what

[spice timber]

honestly like

[north fjord]

||Tapu Koko Echo fighter||

[spice timber]

if ||dokutaro is anything like that art it's gonna be the coolest mf in paldea||

||especially if they got the person who did armarouge and ceruledge to do it||

[rough kelp]

yo ||tapu momo||

[wanton trail]

WOAH

THAT IS PEAK

[torn ore]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1715161332314771462?t=uDiqTjY4h0WI6G1A0UiRoQ&s=19 so does this mean no Dokutaro in the main story at all and is either just a sidequest or mythical||

[spice timber]

huh

i doubt ||it's a mythical||

[torn ore]

||Wait probably a sidequest since I vaguely remember a Dokutaro Titan battle datamine||

[spice timber]

i think it might be ||dokutaro is involved in the backstory with kieran (because it's kind of implied to be egging him on?), but it's just chilling in kitakami for the whole story with the other members of the loyal three and you go kick its ass in the postgame after you've defused kieran||

[torn ore]

||Maybe this is where Perrin's sidequest data comes into play lol||

[spice timber]

it's also interesting that this implies that ||it isn't actually a major part of the main plot, it being in a sidequest at all is kind of news to me because i always considered it to be the overarching villain||

[torn ore]

||I was hoping for some conflict between Terapagos and Dokutaro lol||

||Battle of the wishmakers||

||Speaking of Terapagos, I've been thinking about that "Terastal Form vs Terastallised State" tweet and how they can stack||

[spice timber]

my thought was that ||dokutaro getting kieran under its control with a chain and then coercing him to catch terapagos would be its big plan to harness a shitload of tera energy for itself||

[spice timber]

we actually know exactly what it means

both of those are official terms

[torn ore]

||Yeah with Terastal Form being just a normal form change, and Terastallized State being the actual Tera being used||

[spice timber]

||"Terastal Form" is what the official website calls the big terapagos form on the box art, and "Terastallized State" is what they call ogerpon's tera forms||

oh ok

[torn ore]

||But it leaves me wondering, where does Terapagos' 3rd form fit into this||

[spice timber]

||i imagine terastallizing big boy terapagos is gonna be how you access its big super form||

[spare hare]

||it probably is just the terastallized state||

[torn ore]

||Thing is, terastallized states don't have their own form ID if we're looking at Ogerpon as reference||

[spice timber]

i wonder if ||terapagos will be able to switch its tera type or not||

||it'd make sense for its form to occur when you terastallize it into omnitype||

[torn ore]

||So I'm thinking this 3rd Terapagos form is either a mid battle/ability transformation like Zygarde, or it's "Terastallized State" is a more proper form change like Ultra Necrozma||

[spare hare]

||maybe its terastallized state does not take up a tera slot like primal groudon or kyogre lol||

||also i could see it just being different enough to qualify bc ogerpon's tera states are just the mask growing bigger and they don't have unique names as far as we know||

[spice timber]

||it'd be kinda raw if it forcibly terastallized every other mon on the field||

[torn ore]

||Also very likely. Enough difference with the hexagonal shell plates instead of pentagons. Longer tail, and huge ass orb if we're going by the book||

||Actually, what if the 3rd form is the one on the book, but just without the 19 type Tera Crown. And we just stack em both ingame to recreate that lmao||

[spare hare]

||there's definitely gotta be something with the 19th tera type in there||

[spice timber]

||i honestly feel like terapagos is gonna have the 19th tera type naturally||

||which means it'd be the only pokemon to be able to double up into the 19th type||

[torn ore]

||Hoping it has a BST total that surpasses Arceus just like the Primals, Ultra Necrozma, Mega Rayquaza, and Mega Mewtwo lmao||

[spice timber]

||this mf better be as strong as legend plate arceus, it literally has every type on its design||

[spare hare]

||i was thinking terastal form might have some gimmick with changing types but it could also still use tera blast which gives it variable coverage||

||and then the ultimate form would either have 19th tera type or some souped up version of 19th tera type, depending on how 19th type actually works||

[torn ore]

||This has been the most hyperfixated I've been on a single Pokemon's lore and design since Necrozma lmao||

||Maybe we'll get our next trailer next week to go along with the start of the Terapagos arc of the anime||

[spice timber]

||it's kind of insane how much this stupid turtle ties into the lore of the entire region, i wanna know what they're cookin with the 19th tera type||

[spice timber]

y'know

||we've had 4 dlc mons revealed for disk, three of which were revealed in one trailer||

||it went terapagos in the first trailer, and then archaludon/bolt/crown in the second||

[torn ore]

||That tweet still confuses me lol||

[spice timber]

||he says it's related to counting and also "availability" whatever the fuck that means||

[torn ore]

||Availability eh?||

||3/8 mons are only caught once and are shiny locked /s||

[spice timber]

i'm talkin about this with other people in a different server and we came to an awkward conclusion

this might mean that ||only 3 out of the 8 indigo disk mons are gonna be actually obtainable without events, meaning that dokutaro is a mythical ala gen 4 darkrai and the paradox swords/beasts are events somehow||

||the latter part completely defies logic, so i don't fully believe it at face value yet||

[sacred minnow]

||I would like to go back to the good old days of mythical events but not with regular Pokémon, they should do it when the gen9 mythical eventually drops||

[tropic pollen]

||that doesn’t check out because there’s at least 4 paradox legendaries||

||then there’s Terapagos, and then there’s Archuladon||

||thats already six||

[rough kelp]

I will say this tank

[spice timber]

i think the implication is that ||dipplin evo, archaludon and terapagos are the only 3 properly obtainable ones||

and yeah it's like actually fucked if true

[torn ore]

||iirc 25 static counters were also datamined?||

[rough kelp]

||if they lock 5/8 of mons in a DLC behind limited distribution, there will be a crowd. it's such a bad move||

that I can't see gamefreak do

[spice timber]

especially considering ||they've advertised bolt and crown heavily as mons that aren't tied to events||

[torn ore]

||How many legendaries can fit in those 25 encounters||

[spice timber]

i think those ||are just starters||

||we have 24 non-paldea first form starters, which would leave one final reward encounter||

[spice timber]

i guess it could mean ||they're patched in after the fact? but like why||

[spare hare]

How did you even come to that conclusion

[spice timber]

khu liked ||a tweet after the fact that explicitly stated that most of the dlc2 mons were event only/unobtainable||

[spare hare]

Then why tf did you not lead with that lmao

[spice timber]

we talked a lot more about the other stuff that khu specifically said, that kinda slipped from my mind

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/657694410145923092/1164932636926550026/IMG_6214.png?ex=65450310&is=65328e10&hm=024ee276e6d280e133cd7e58f8481c1ec1539ae1870ef83be0d7fe2c023204c7& ||

here it is

[spare hare]

This still seems strange to me bc ||why would they even advertise the paradox legends this early as part of the dlc without stating they're events then||

[sacred minnow]

[spare hare]

||and walking wake and Iron leaves were in the deleted dex entries||

[spice timber]

yeah, it's baffling

i don't think we should take it at face value yet

i could see ||dokutaro being our mythical for the gen, but i absolutely cannot see the paradox swords and beasts all being event only||

[surreal vault]

What the fuck

[tropic pollen]

||long shot, we sure Khu isnt just trolling and is talking about shiny availability||

||four static paradoxes and one Terapagos would make for 5 mons that i expect are shiny locked||

[spare hare]

big brained approach ||but what about dokutaro||

||doesn't seem like they would make that shiny huntable given their trend||

[spice timber]

||that'd imply dokutaro is huntable||

[tropic pollen]

||then its Terapagos, Dokutaro and +1 that are locked idk||

[spare hare]

i agree this seems to make no sense if taken at face value

||i don't think any official material implies the paradox legendaries wouldn't be obtainable normally in the dlc||

||like why would they word it this way without saying it would only be events or through some other similar limited means||

[tropic pollen]

||encountered is the same wording used on a Pokemon’s ID page so||

||Event only also doesn’t make sense if you have an actual fight with these dudes, unless its a fight where you cant catch them like the first Scream Tail/Iron Bunde fight during the last story||

[spare hare]

||maybe it just means you can only get more than 1 of the 3/8? lol||

||maybe you get 2 terapagos or something, a normal one and a terastal one???||

[spice timber]

could be ||only being able to catch 3 of the 8 before postgame||

[spare hare]

||but this is postgame||

||unless you just mean before you beat indigo disk||

[wanton trail]

FUCK

WHY

[spice timber]

yeah, that's what i mean

[wanton trail]

I hope this is the case

[tropic pollen]

||I genuinely do not think they would put unobtainable things in a trailer||

[spare hare]

||it does seem deceptive if those do end up being unobtainable normally||

||it seems to imply they're part of the dlc anyways, if they're actual events they can't actually make those dlc exclusive can they||

[wanton trail]

||tbf its probably for marketing that they advertise the paradox beasts/swords as obtainable||

[spare hare]

||well ig more accurately they haven't before ||

[wanton trail]

How would that even work

||you can only enter in the code if you pay for dlc?||

[spare hare]

They haven't ever done anything like that and I'm not sure if there's even anything set up for that

Which is why it seems weird to me

||if they hadn't shown them off in the dlc trailer and hadn't explicitly stated you could encounter them in the dlc I would be more inclined to believe this||

[wanton trail]

||maybe by event, they mean a sidequest||

[spice timber]

khu's known to misdirect shit

could be him trolling and it actually means something else

[runic prawn]

pls no

[candid nebula]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1715533109071081626?s=19
https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1715551751712260342?s=19||

||I'm guessing as expected, only Terastallized State Terapagos is 19th Type||

Let's go, homosexuals won

[tropic pollen]

Epic but maybe tag it

[candid nebula]

I don't think it has any leaks? It's just Khu saying that MC/Kieran is best duo

[tropic pollen]

ye fair enough we just tag everything here as a precaution

[candid nebula]

As we should of course, I just thought it was fine since it didn't include any leaks

[torn ore]

||I'm thinking Normal, Normal/Dragon, 19th Type||

[tropic pollen]

||I could see normal/rock||

[torn ore]

||Also possible with all them Glimmoras and Crystals. I only say Dragon because of 3rd legend tradition lmao||

||Rock/Dragon||

[split swan]

I am curious what the ||19th type will be called.||

[torn ore]

||inb4 Tera Type||

[spare hare]

||>no scolipede in indigo disk||

why bother playing the game !

[spare hare]

||>no aggron in indigo disk||
why bother playing the game !

[sacred minnow]

||>no patch notes||

why bother playing the game!

[hot zenith]

||>no game||
why bother playing the game !

[rough kelp]

||>no golisopod||
why bother

[tropic pollen]

Can we get some sort of list of Still Unavailable Pokémon post-DLC

[spare hare]

in sv specifically?

[tropic pollen]

yea

[spare hare]

||Kanto: Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill, Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeot, Rattata, Raticate, Spearow, Fearow, Nidoran-F, Nidorina, Nidoqueen, Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Zubat, Golbat, Paras, Parasect, Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam, Machop, Machoke, Machamp, Ponyta, Rapidash, Farfetch'd, Onix, Krabby, Kingler, Cubone, Marowak, Lickitung, Tangela, Kangaskhan, Goldeen, Seaking, Staryu, Starmie, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Pinsir, Omanyte, Omastar, Kabuto, Kabutops, Aerodactyl
Johto: Ledyba, Ledian, Crobat, Togepi, Togetic, Natu, Xatu, Unown, Wobbuffet, Steelix, Shuckle, Corsola, Remoraid, Octillery, Mantine, Smoochum, Miltank, Celebi
Hoenn: Zigzagoon, Linoone, Wurmple, Silcoon, Beautifly, Cascoon, Dustox, Taillow, Swellow, Nincada, Ninjask, Shedinja, Whismur, Loudred, Exploud, Skitty, Delcatty, Mawile, Aron, Lairon, Aggron, Electrike, Manectric, Roselia, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Wailmer, Wailord, Spinda, Lunatone, Solrock, Baltoy, Claydol, Lileep, Cradily, Anorith, Armaldo, Castform, Kecleon, Absol, Wynaut, Spheal, Sealeo, Walrein, Clamperl, Huntail, Gorebyss, Relicanth
Sinnoh: Bidoof, Bibarel, Budew, Roserade, Burmy, Wormadam, Mothim, Cherubi, Cherrim, Buneary, Lopunny, Glameow, Purugly, Mime Jr., Chatot, Skorupi, Drapion, Carnivine, Mantyke, Lickilicky, Tangrowth, Togekiss
Unova: Victini, Patrat, Watchog, Lillipup, Herdier, Stoutland, Purrloin, Liepard, Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, Simisear, Panpour, Simipour, Munna, Musharna, Pidove, Tranquill, Unfezant, Roggenrola, Boldore, Gigalith, Woobat, Swoobat, Audino, Tympole, Palpitoad, Seismitoad, Throh, Sawk, Venipede, Whirlipede, Scolipede, Darumaka, Darmanitan, Maractus, Dwebble, Crustle, Sigilyph, Yamask, Cofagrigus, Tirtouga, Carracosta, Archen, Archeops, Trubbish, Garbodor, Vanillite, Vanillish, Vanilluxe, Emolga, Karrablast, Escavalier, Frillish, Jellicent||
CONTINUED

||Unova (continued): Ferroseed, Ferrothorn, Klink, Klang, Klinklang, Elgyem, Beheeyem, Shelmet, Accelgor, Stunfisk, Druddigon, Bouffalant, Heatmor, Durant, Genesect
Kalos: Bunnelby, Diggersby, Pancham, Pangoro, Furfrou, Honedge, Doublade, Aegislash, Spritzee, Aromatisse, Swirlix, Slurpuff, Binacle, Barbaracle, Helioptile, Heliolisk, Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, Amaura, Aurorus, Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde
Alola: Wishiwashi, Morelull, Shiinotic, Stufful, Bewear, Wimpod, Golisopod, Pyukumuku, Type: Null, Silvally, Turtonator, Togedemaru, Drampa, Dhelmise, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Nihilego, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Xurkitree, Celesteela, Kartana, Guzzlord, Marshadow, Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, Zeraora
Unknown technically lol: Meltan, Melmetal
Galar: Blipbug, Dottler, Orbeetle, Nickit, Thievul, Gossifleur, Eldegoss, Wooloo, Dubwool, Yamper, Boltund, Sizzlipede, Centiskorch, Clobbopus, Grapploct, Obstagoon, Cursola, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime, Runerigus, Dracozolt, Arctozolt, Dracovish, Arctovish||

||i put any legends/mythicals/ubs in parentheses bc they're not in the leaked dex crew but you never know if they'll be included either through some legendary catching feature or transfers||

this took longer than i expected :SCtired:

[rough kelp]

nice pin

[north fjord]

SCP article

[tropic pollen]

||counted, that's 315 mons||

||(counting the mons in parentheses) ||

[spare hare]

||if they keep including similar amounts of pokemon in each game then ig this count will only grow with each new gen||

[tropic pollen]

||if all mons in parentheses get in, it's 265||

||also per region its 52, 23, 54, 23, 76, 25, 36, 2 (meltan) and 24||

[wanton trail]

||the dlc arrivals have me mixed||
||on the one hand, we have the absolute units Gliscor, Ribombee, and Furret returning along with all the starters. On the other, No emolga||

[spare hare]

||gen 5 remakes confirmed.||

[wanton trail]

||Emolga evolution where u at||

[tropic pollen]

||this does remind me of back when there weren't that many sinnoh mons in swsh lol||

[wanton trail]

||They better introduce that in the remakes||

[spare hare]

||furfrou about to be the only pokemon to never be on switch|| 🔥

[wanton trail]

Been thinking about this

||what if its Mewtwo||

||Its the only pokemon dubbed the “Mightiest Mark” that wasnt a starter, plus Mewtwo is super popular||

||giving this… new form or whatever to just charizard makes absolutely no sense and is literally favortism, but Mewtwo? It makes some sense lore-wise.||

[tropic pollen]

||wait fr ☠️ ||

[spare hare]

||I think after the dlc the only mons left who have never been on switch are patrat, the monkeys, and furfrou||

[tropic pollen]

this is insane, folks

[wanton trail]

Ill bet ||In the gen 10 reveal trailer they reveal the elemental monkeys and patrat||

[hot zenith]

||Seems the Pokemon Company has forgotten about Simisear too...||

[spare hare]

||Pokemon has FORGOTTEN about the monkeys...||

[torn ore]

||It's over UBbros... https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1716609458984698052?t=CPEn5zWkf4LLmie7hOa0kA&s=19 ||

[torn ore]

||New reply. Looks like he confirmed that other legends are returning though||

[silver shore]

||Neat!||

[torn ore]

||>no Poipole and Naganadel in indigo disk||
why bother playing the game !

[spare hare]

True...

||no sv ubs||

[torn ore]

||With Khu confirming legendaries and deconfirming UBs, Poipole line is the only favorite mon of mine that's missing. I could've had it all...||

||WHY MUST HE BE STUCK IN SWSH||

[spare hare]

What are the rest of yours

[spice timber]

FUUUUUUCK

||AT LEAST REGIROCK GETS TO COME BACK BUT FUUUCK||

[spare hare]

Game confirmed a 2/10 now

[vestal arch]

||god damnit I wanted to see how celesteela's textures would end up||

[spare hare]

||no peak to scale kartana and celesteela with sv textures...||

[spice timber]

||no 40 foot tall stakataka||

it's actually over

||shiny poipole stuck in usum hell||

[torn ore]

||With Naganadel being part of my top 10, the others are Rayquaza, Greninja, Zoroark, Necrozma, Zygarde, Toxtricity, Tyranitar, Garchomp, and Sceptile. Yeah pretty common picks I know lmao||

[spare hare]

It's a good list

[torn ore]

||Can Necrozma go Ultra this time at least lmao||

[spare hare]

||at least we'll be able to see peakcrozma ||

[torn ore]

||Yeah guess I'll settle with Necrozma as my fave Alola rep. And then Decidueye to sub for Peaknagadel||

[spice timber]

we also probably get ||huntable gen 8 legendaries, so huntable g-zapdos and zacian||

[torn ore]

||If I were Game Freak, I'd have a rule where All Starters, and Legendaries + related subcategories (Ultra Beast and Paradox) must return by the end of a game's lifespan lmao||

[white garden]

||Poor Light Trio getting seperated from their kind||

[spare hare]

i wonder if ||legendaries returning means anything for type: null line||

||since they weren't in ct bc they were already in base game swsh||

[torn ore]

||My boy is stuck in hell||

[spare hare]

and they're kind of unique

[torn ore]

Wait did this mark

[spare hare]

yea

like spoiler you mean?

[torn ore]

Yeah lol

[torn ore]

||God I hope they don't butcher Zygarde Complete's transform animation||

[spice timber]

||i think it'll be fine, considering they gave morpeko a unique animation||

[torn ore]

||Does the camera shift when it transforms on overworld battles?||

[spice timber]

i don't actually know, i've only seen it in ||the titan loyal three battles with carmine's morpeko||

[rough kelp]

I just realized sth really funny.

if someone has this thread enabled and searched for one of the mon in this they will get giant black square jumpscare

[velvet bobcat]

such a shame no one will ever search for this pokemon

[rough kelp]

wait nvm

[dry shell]

So what does ||0 false|| mean on this

[tropic pollen]

||it means its not in the data||

||0 means form, false means not present
you'll notice that Charizard 1 and Charizard 2 are also "false"||

[dry shell]

||So solgaleo is probably not making it?||

[tropic pollen]

||we dont know yet, because this is just for base game and dlc 1, we dont have the data for dlc 2 yet ofc||

[dry shell]

Ok

||Also, sorry if I’m persistent about solgaleo ||

[lethal iris]

Day 74 of me|| once again waiting on information for the whereabouts for when my reshiram can get it, if at all||

[torn ore]

||With Khu seemingly confirming all legendaries returing, your Reshirams and Solgaleos are safe||

||Me with my Ultra Beasts though||

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[spice timber]

||it's nihilegover...||

[lethal iris]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-19754912

Idk

I can’t really trust khu until I get actual evidence

[torn ore]

||Still hoping for that final copium where GF decides to add the Ultra Beasts very late into development lmao||

[spice timber]

wasn't the arrokuda line last minute in teal mask

[torn ore]

Arrokuda was already in the base game though

[spice timber]

wait

it was basegame

tf

[hot zenith]

Predators: ...birds

[dry shell]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[white garden]

||Glad my Solgaleo and Lunala in HOME will probably be safe, alongside that Yveltal and Zekrom that are still imprisoned||

[lethal iris]

Like please, I need something that’s actually feasible and factual

[rough kelp]

||wattrel has 70 speed arrokuda has 66... it's joever kudabros||

[spare hare]

mfw this is where they all went

[spice timber]

||kieran sends out armarouge + indeedee||

[rough kelp]

finally 👏

[rough kelp]

just wait till the ||kieran carmine double battle where they use supersweet syrup to boost matcha gotcha 🔥 ||

[white garden]

||Just got a Necrozma into home, now I have the entire Light Trio ready to be put into Paldea when Indigo Disk comes out (hopefully if they get in there)||

[lethal iris]

Where on earth is this next trailer

[tropic pollen]

might be one on the 14th

[lethal iris]

Day 83, give it all for day 83

[sacred minnow]

no

[rough kelp]

hmm

physical copies of the DLC is out in the wild

what does this mean idk, there maybe leaks though so beware

although I guess as "physical" as it is, you still have to download the DLC update

[spare hare]

It only has base game and teal mask

You still have to wait for indigo disk lol

[rough kelp]

yeah figured

"physical"

[plucky ibex]

i never look at leaks but is it known if porygon will be in the dlc

[tropic pollen]

||It is known||

[plucky ibex]

||lets fucking go||

thank you time to never look in here again thats all i wanted to know

[tropic pollen]

||i never said whether or not its in ||

[plucky ibex]

||oh||

|| ||

[tropic pollen]

||but it is in||

|| ||

[plucky ibex]

||lets fucking go (again)||

[spare hare]

[lethal iris]

Day 84

[vestal arch]

||the hell does it mean then because my only other idea is something about the date of march 8th/august 3rd||

[spice timber]

could just be ||3/8 mons available before postgame||

[vestal arch]

oh ||yeah that makes sense||

[spice timber]

||archaludon would obviously be available before postgame, and i presume you'd catch terapagos during the finale||

||maybe you get dipplin evo there too||?

[rough kelp]

||3/8 of them unobtainable 👍 ||

[wanton trail]

||the good ending||

[wanton trail]

OH WAIT

||what if we’re all thinking the worst, but in reality 3/8 are shiny locked||

[white garden]

That’s def the case

||Archaludon, Dipplin Evo, and another mon are huntable hence Terapagos, Dokutaro, and Paradox Beasts/Swords are locked||

[spare hare]

i wonder how much khu actually knows about internal politics in tpc

||this is pretty funny though, no ilca bw?||

||although if we're actually getting gen 5 remakes next year it's probably too late to take them off bw remakes by now, if they are working on them||

[spice timber]

y'know

if ||they delay paradox unova or whatever it is to 2025, maybe next year is gonna be johto||

[vestal arch]

||johto with fairy and exp share would be nice||

[spice timber]

the thing i've heard being thrown around is something to the effect of ||johto remakes styled like lgpe (minus the pogo part i think?), followed by bw game that uses the original region layout like oras||

nothing about ||bw remakes, which is weird but i can't blame em||

[spare hare]

what's the source

[spice timber]

it's literally like

lemme grab it but then crop out the person

"||BW3 is the title. There was no word on paradox stuff but thats not a de-confirmation, there was just no mention of it for now (so dont lose hope). Game is set in a decent time skip from the events of 2, reconfirming the part about the layout being traditional design as I mentioned before. new pokemon and forms (was told a few, i cannot say because holy shit way too early and my ass is NOT that dumb to post em)

GS remake, ILCA-faithful but with new stuff. Not new stuff as in how HGSS added new stuff(like no sinjoh or platinum BF) but, and I dont entirely know what they meant by this, like how FRLG added onto the original RG.||"

i'm doing it like this because i really really don't want to accidentally fuck something up

[spare hare]

ok but like

[spice timber]

it's kind of a dude trust me type situation

[spare hare]

that's not answering what the source is

lol

[spice timber]

there is no source

[spare hare]

why would you trust something without a source then 😭

[spice timber]

they called stuff before khu or pyoro confirmed things

that's mostly why

[vestal arch]

source or not it's more interesting to think about then annoying riddle number whatever

[spice timber]

yeah

i trust the person, even if it's fake it's something nice to chew on

[spare hare]

then what did they get right

[spice timber]

they hard called ||khu trolling about ilca unova, after he made that sus tweet about it||

[spare hare]

i mean

that's not much of something to leak is it lol

you got a 50/50 chance of being right/wrong and it's not a new fact

[surreal vault]

||Not a fan if they remake GS again. Not looking forward to the discourse around it||

[spare hare]

when did this person say ||gs remakes|| were happening then?

like when did they say that, not when are they coming out

[spice timber]

the coming out part is iffy, that was speculation on my end

they said it was kind of like concurrent with other stuff, like ||bdsp/pla style||

[spare hare]

i meant when did they say ||gs remakes|| were a thing

like when did they themselves say that

not ||when would the games come out||

[spice timber]

oh ok

they mentioned it about this time last month

[spare hare]

so is this bc ||kitakami is johto-esque and indigo disk is literally in unova||

||i mean it's kind of interesting to think about but this is the first i'm hearing of having both "faithful gs remake but still with new stuff" and "bw3"||

[spice timber]

they never mentioned anything like that but i guess that logic checks out?

tbf ||"faithful johto remake with new stuff" could literally mean "ramanas park 2"||

[spare hare]

||seems like a weird set of games to pair though||

||not only bc bdsp and pla were both sinnoh games but also bc pla was a fundamentally different game from the usual pokemon stuff||

||whereas this seems to imply they're both like normal pokemon games, if i'm reading the bw3 part correctly||

||so if they're actually intended to release relatively close to each other it seems really weird to release two pokemon games that play about the same less than a few months apart when they could easily just space them out||

||i actually would not personally mind this happening bc i really want bw3 but just seems strange to me||

[spice timber]

i think it's like

weird and fucked up when it comes to ||release schedule stuff||

[lethal iris]

Day 86 of me asking for my reshiram to || return||

|| seriously, where is the confirmation for the past legends||

[white garden]

||So I made this photoshop of how I imagine we’ll find returning legendaries in Indigo Disk

So basically after catching Terapagos and beating the DLC, you’re able to do these minigames with Briar to get research in Area Zero, and every time you complete this minigame, a hidden area will open up where you can encounter a Legendary from a past Gen||

||This is just a photoshop I made to imagine how encountering them would be like||

||Assuming we do get returning legends, I imagine these will be exclusives||

||Scarlet:
Ho-oh
Groudon
Latios
Dialga
Heatran
Tornadus
Landorus
Reshiram
Xerneas
Solgaleo
Zamazenta
Glastrier

Violet:
Lugia
Kyogre
Latias
Palkia
Cresselia
Thundurus
Zekrom
Yveltal
Lunala
Zacian
Spectrier
Enamorus||

[white garden]

||Made another photoshop this time with Giratina||

[shell sand]

whyd you put him in water.

[tropic pollen]

Bath

[white garden]

Well I couldn’t find another proper place without mons spawning

[spice timber]

ayo (anime preview/spoilers) ||there's supposedly like 5 new ball types in the preview for the next episode||

[surreal vault]

Wtf

[lethal iris]

Huh

[rough kelp]

doesn't anime introduce wacky new balls all the time anyways

I feel like this is insignificant ||unless some of these are confirmed or sth?||

[spare hare]

They did it much more in earlier gens ||but yea anime does introduce exclusive balls that never come over to the games||

||idk what the context of these are but unless we get more info that would suggest otherwise it doesn't necessarily mean anything for main series||

It's pretty neat though ||since there are multiple new designs here, I'm curious what the context is||

I also see ||the hisui balls here which is kind of weird||

[lethal iris]

Day 89 of me waiting in the garden

[shell sand]

ok spinel.

[torn ore]

If ILCA messes up again (which I'm hoping they do), we should have all the new mons and forms leaked by Home around the end of November or first week of December

[tropic pollen]

||hold on i just noticed there are exactly Two Fucking Fossil Lines in this game, in total.||

[harsh lion]

yeah .

[tropic pollen]

||and they're arguably the worst ones||

[harsh lion]

||SHEER FORCE TERA FIRE FIRE BLAST VAMOS||

[harsh lion]

this is insane to me im sorry

||like it sounds reasonable but also I wasnt ever expecting tpci to care at all LOL||

[tropic pollen]

btw i have a theory

[harsh lion]

a game theory?

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/matpat-matthew-patrick-weird-strange-wide-eye-gif-5685083

||this thing here from area zero||

||i think its a map || (thing Khu has talked about before)

[surreal vault]

Oh shit

[harsh lion]

what about these

[harsh lion]

Real

[spare hare]

left

[tropic pollen]

what

[harsh lion]

IDK

[ivory prawn]

a cha

[runic prawn]

e to the

[candid nebula]

||People probably noticed this way back when SV came out but I just noticed it ||

||Wonder what the stuff above and below it mean, if they have any meaning that is||

[candid nebula]

I just noticed I didn't spoiler tag the image

Ehh it's from the game anyways

[spare hare]

terapagos ability

||it's not super protean||

||maybe takes neutral from everything? it's either that or "takes neutral from everything but also there are situations where it may resist"||

[rough kelp]

||its ability become a type absorbing ability when attacked ||

[spare hare]

||gotta wonder how broken this shit will be||

[wanton trail]

||who’s ready for anything goes ubers||

[spice timber]

||thank the lord it isn't "i get a free boost to my offensive stats" ability 4||

[shell sand]

inb4 it is

[torn ore]

||Hope Terapagos continues the trend of at least one Pokemon per Gen since Gen 6 that surpasses Arceus in BST lmao||

[wanton trail]

||Arceus is no longer the god of pokemon||

[torn ore]

||Come on join the club you silly turtle||

[wanton trail]

That ||1125 bst still goes crazy||

[torn ore]

||The catch is that we can't use that form lol||

[wanton trail]

||yes we can||

||have you heard of rom hacks||

[tropic pollen]

||remember that the Arceus we can obtain is only a shard of the true being ||

[wanton trail]

||Oh-||

[spice timber]

||arceus is basically the embodiment of "i'm only using a fraction of my full power"||

[tropic pollen]

basically

[wanton trail]

Yep

We still need to see those ||1,000 hands||

[wanton trail]

[lethal iris]

Day 95 of me still waiting on ||news for my reshiram returning ||

[torn ore]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1724486090411958557?s=20 ||

||Looks like we're getting that trailer this week if he's talking about it now||

||Are they really gonna reveal 7/8 of them in the next trailer lmao||

||Or if they ain't counting Terapagos, the rest of the 7 mons||

[spare hare]

||if they're gonna not reveal a mon, dokutaro makes sense to me||

||besides that it would have to be dipplin evo||

||if it's 7/8 that means they're showing the remaining two paradoxes||

[torn ore]

||Either Dokutaro or Dipplin's Evo. Plus we still have Terapagos' ultimate form that they'll probably save||

||I'm guess trailer's either tomorrow or Thursday||

[spare hare]

Maybe we'll get a trailer tomorrow then

If he's already seeing it

Lmao

[torn ore]

Wednesday's the usual Pokemon trailer day so here's hoping

[spice timber]

wtf

||"7 new pokemon in the teal mask" why teal mask||?

[torn ore]

||Oh wait||

||Damn guess it's just an official reveal for the rest of the Teal Mask mons||

||I can't read for shit||

[spare hare]

Oh lmao

I didn't even pay attention to that

Official art incoming lfg

Please

[torn ore]

Well there's that at least

Damn a Teal Mask trailer a month before Indigo Disk tho lmfao

[spare hare]

||sinistcha, blood moon ursaluna, and unmasked/other masks ogerpon art hopefully ||

[torn ore]

||Please please please artwork for Terastallised State Ogerpon Masks||

[velvet bobcat]

ogerpon
poltchageist
soup
doge
kazooie
munkidori
dipplin

Yeah that checks out

I guess they're lifting the spoiler embargo

[surreal vault]

Hm

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[torn ore]

We'd be lucky if it's both the Teal Mask Spoiler ban trailer, and a new Indigo Disk trailer

[spare hare]

[spare hare]

given pyoro's recent post saying he doesn't work for yt i think that teal mask comment was actually just a joke, not an actual leak for anything tomorrow

bc he quoted his past tweet, so he's basically sarcastically saying "look i said there would be 7 pokemon bc there was a video that said there would be 7 new pokemon in teal mask"

[spice timber]

ah

good news: the trailer won't be a recap
bad news: there might not be a trailer

[spare hare]

Even worse news: we may not get unmasked ogerpon art tomorrow

[spice timber]

mfw no official terastal state ogerpon art

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-drop-gif-23165505

[rough kelp]

yoooooo

||yo pyoro can you start leaking pokemon while still keeping this kind of tweets 🙏 I need those pokeleakers out of job ASAP||

[rough kelp]

oh... its a joke...

it's ||pyorover||...

[silver shore]

|| https://vxtwitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1724581229469843634?s=20 ||

[spare hare]

Idk bro you tell me

[surreal vault]

||Oh...thats Omni man...||

[rough kelp]

finally ||Man-type||

[north fjord]

||Invincible type||

[velvet bobcat]

I don't see it

[vestal arch]

still hoping for somebody else to get leaks other then khu so we can stop doing this

[surreal vault]

Let's not forget that brave soldier Kaka

What a wild turn of events they turned out to be

[vestal arch]

was that the early screenshots of stuff like crocolor 'n the like

nevermind i completely forgot about them

[spare hare]

Kaka was the other leaker who just straight up said shit

They leaked some of those early pics of the leaders and farigiraf

And then transitioned almost exclusively into text leaks

[vestal arch]

ah yeah that strikes a bell

[spice timber]

kaka...

what a god

[surreal vault]

Huh

[tropic pollen]

Then tag that, thats the customary rule for this channel

[wanton trail]

Okay so I’ve been reading up on Khu’s recent leaks. My thoughts will be in spoilers as is customary

||So, I seriously hope they’re lying about DLC2 being complete without Dokutaro, and that the dlc2 storyline is complete with Dokutaro. It would be the best plot twist in history if TPCi figured out who Khu was and was making sure that their source was telling Khu false information so we’re all expecting the complete opposite for DLC2. If Khu is right, I hope that we get something like PLA’s Daybreak as an event for a story surrounding Dokutaro.||

[torn ore]

||I hope they figured out who he is and lied to him about the Ultra Beasts not returning lmfao||

[wanton trail]

||SAME||

||Khu needs to ditch his manbaby act of “Im the only reliable source of info” thing, too. It makes him less reliable, in a sense, and makes it seem more like he wants attention.||

[surreal vault]

||I'm so sick of the Ego, my man once your source is gone your relevance goes bye bye faster than a speeding train||

[wanton trail]

||Centro hype train ||

[wanton trail]

||I do feel like the Ultra Beasts have to return. If we’re gonna get the beast ball in main game via pokedex rewards, surely its supposed to be relevant for ultra beasts returning||

||Is Khu’s reign of being the only “reliable” source finished?||

[spice timber]

||he could also just be fucking with people as per usual||

||like in a "oh the ubs aren't part of the collectathon" kind of way||

[shell sand]

copium fr

[lethal iris]

It’s now been 100 days since the direct.

Where is my next trailer.

[dry shell]

I ate it

[shell sand]

give them the little precious time they have to finish and polish it or lack therof

[spice timber]

apparently, tomorrow some kind of media embargo lifts for the dlc?

[lethal iris]

Wdym

[spice timber]

an embargo is basically something that prevents outlets from talking about a topic

in this case, it basically translates to "news soon"

idfk if it'll result in anything though

[torn ore]

What's le source for this

[spice timber]

the same guy in that other server i mentioned earlier

i don't think there's any articles about it, i'm only posting it here cuz it's something to chew on

[torn ore]

Is that guy reliable by any chance lol

[spice timber]

no clue yet

i'm honestly just waiting for january/february for stuff to be revealed, because that'll be when i'll know for sure

either way, it's literally just a fancy way of saying "this will be the trailer for real this time :)"

[dry shell]

DLC 2 is coming out in December right?

[spice timber]

yeah

14th i believe

[dry shell]

So what’s being revealed in February?

[spare hare]

bc that person made other leaks about upcoming games

and february is when they have pokemon day and thus announce the new games for the year

[dry shell]

Oh ok

[spice timber]

^

they made a bunch of predictions

[spice timber]

y'know

teal mask leaked through pokemon home around 2 weeks before it launched

we could be getting home leaks in a little over 10 days if they do the same thing

[torn ore]

Yes please ILCA mess up again lmao

Wonder how the dataminers even got the version data early in the first place

[spice timber]

i think it was like

oh wait no idk

they probably just get access to some stuff as it's pushed to the servers

kinda like how meltan leaked in pogo with its model being pushed to the internal servers before it was added to the game

[soft lava]

That would be through the apk, iirc.

[wanton trail]

Okay so TyranitarTube uploaded another Khu video, Im gonna share my thoughts and theories (video btw) ||https://youtu.be/PBojxm2UgIk?si=LWhLp-3iwthTefc_||

||So at this point I’m really on that “Khu’s Downfall” copium, since I still hope he’s being fed false information. As Ttar said, we need to compare Terapagos to Ultra Necrozma, and they will probably bring back necrozma (by extension the ultra beasts), so like… its a golden opportunity too. Necrozma is crystals, Terapagos makes crystals??? Idk. Also the roaming legendaries thing should be real but I seriously hope they don’t count towards dex completion. However, the fact that a 7* raid could be coming out the weekend Indigo Disk drops lead me to believe that Khu is right about no Dokutaro, rather Dokutaro will be the mon in the 7* raid.||

Be warned, I bounce around a lot when trying to get my thoughts out

[ivory prawn]

||I can't wait for Ultra Necrozma to show up and eat Terapagos||

[torn ore]

Oh well the embargo lift was real

Joe Serebii uploaded his

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXi9gDc6bXk&ab_channel=Serebii

[wanton trail]

My full thoughts (be warned, spoilers!) ||ACTUALLY CHALLENGING BATTLES? HELLO????? I’m so incredibly hyped now, if the battles are actually challenging maybe building a new playthrough team for SV won’t be the best choice, but i still will anyway||

[surreal vault]

||Did we forget about BDSP already...||

[wanton trail]

Yes we did.

…mainly because I have not finished that game

[tropic pollen]

Returning move ||Meteor Beam returns :D
Still no Beheeyem :(||

[torn ore]

This preview just made me even more impatient for a new trailer lmfao

[spice timber]

wait wtf it actually happened

not a trailer but i still need to dissect this stuff

[shell sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0tIrttV-Mc

[velvet bobcat]

everyone played the indigo disk

[wanton trail]

[torn ore]

||I need one where they play the actual game audio in the background just to hear the wild battle theme||

[tropic pollen]

||Might not be allowed to||

[harsh lion]

Does this mean ||excadrill|| returns

Seems to be the case... Swagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Also ||idk how telling this list is of unova remakes coming when swsh was kinda obvious abt it for not having sinnohs fossils and ONLY those but. I mean its happening either way||

[spice timber]

tbh they've been building up the potential ||unova remakes/sequels/pla equivalent|| for YEARS now

||unova's been highlighted in a major way in every game since swsh, even in pla with a lot of the hisuian forms being for gen 5 mons||

[harsh lion]

||It would be funny if the unova remake had none of those cross gen mons or forms||

[tropic pollen]

||it wont||

[rough kelp]

would be funnier if it does

||grimsley's kingambit jumpscare||

[white garden]

||I’m still hoping that we’ll get a confirmation for returning legends before the DLC releases, I want my Light Trio back graaahhh||

[lethal iris]

I need my Reshiram back

[white garden]

I need Necrozma back or else I will die of dededepression

[lethal iris]

Day 103 of me Waiting for news for the past legends.

[white garden]

Genuinely starting to get worried we might not get returning legends

[torn ore]

If we do, can they please not put it in the shitstorm called Tera Raids

||Music preview https://vxtwitter.com/pokexperto/status/1727277946761773124?t=1Dlf89GnknAFK7CAjByHAA&s=19 ||

[tropic pollen]

||oh sick there's some Unova Route 6 in there||

[white garden]

That’s inevitably gonna happen but we can hope they don’t get barriers

[spice timber]

y'know

a lot of the people who previewed id said that amarys' team ||had unexpected mons||

looking back, this weird hint about lacey's team makes a lot more sense now

if ||the bb league's teams aren't monotype||

[spare hare]

It's probably ||monotype but not strictly so, much like raihan||

[ivory prawn]

||Won't they just pull the gimmick of terastalizing the ace into their type||

[spare hare]

||basically monotype but with mons that help support the team with whatever gimmick it has||

Some comment on reddit said ||she has a reuniclus and metagross (her ace) at least, so if that's true maybe she has a trick room theme with steel||

||which is much like raihan having mostly dragon types but also having other mons like torkoal and gigalith for weather setting and theming||

[velvet bobcat]

||do we know if they use tera?||

[ivory prawn]

||Oh right they might not have tera there uhhh||

[tropic pollen]

||they 100% do. We've seen Drayton do a terastalization animation, there's tera dens in the previews, and Serebii joe mentioned picking up 18 tera shards from one hidden item spot||

||my theory? Terapagos is up in that big dome at the top of the terrarium||

[rough kelp]

I am pretty sure joe merrick serebii.net mentioned this too, so it's confirmed pretty much

[spice timber]

(khu)
||https://vxtwitter.com/riddler_khu/status/1727835594380976239?s=46&t=tpfY4fNo_XHfG685QERkDA ||

what the fuck did he mean by this

[surreal vault]

What....

[vestal arch]

wtf

[spare hare]

||are we actually getting a johto and unova game||

[ivory prawn]

Whats with the weird clip art clouds

[rough kelp]

that's pokemon masters I think

it's the background when they use sync moves

[ivory prawn]

Ah

[velvet bobcat]

god please dont be multiple games

[harsh lion]

Ohhh yeahh baby ohh yeah

[wanton trail]

What

WHAT

||NO FUCKING WAY||

||LEGENDS CELEBI AND BW 3 HERE WE COME||

[spare hare]

||rby and gsc come to virtual console, unova games, and scarlet and violet uhhhhh idk get a mythical||

[lethal iris]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[spice timber]

some updates on that actually

i think he said that ||all of the games are named after colors||, and he also ||replied to someone asking about let's go johto (though i'm like 80% sure he's baiting)||

[dry shell]

||My favorite color||

||Sword||

[spice timber]

oh i mean

||all of the games in the tweet||

[torn ore]

So mon leaks through Home next week if we're lucky right lol

[tropic pollen]

idk maybe

[surreal vault]

Can't wait

[wanton trail]

Finally

[torn ore]

Me checking the menu sprite resource link of Home every other week just to see if they uploaded ones beyond Ogerpon

[tropic pollen]

||i hope dokutaro has 100 across the board||

been too long

[torn ore]

Finally ||Victini 2||

[spice timber]

||dokutaro peach form with 100 across the board, but when it opens up it gets 300 in spatk and speed and 1 in every other stat||

[torn ore]

||Fingers crossed that Terapagos 3 can actually be registered in the Home dex instead of not existing like Tera Ogerpon||

[tropic pollen]

||600 bst, 300 attack, 300 special attack, 300 special defense, 100 hp, -200 defense, -200 special defense||

[spare hare]

crumples to banded bullet punch

[tropic pollen]

crumbles to any bullet punch from a level 9 riolu

[surreal vault]

Wait ||Yeah so the peach is the mythical if theyre not releasing it immediately the DLC right?||

[spice timber]

also, there was a khu thing that backed that up

iirc this one came out to mean ||terapagos' dex number is 1024 (something about exponents of 2), which would mean dokutaro is 1025||

[spare hare]

It's ||"2 to the power of ten" (I guess the + is supposed to look like a t), and 2^10 = 1024||

Typical khu bullshit for something that barely matters 😭

[lethal iris]

Beby

[spice timber]

it's honestly literally just him saying "||hey dokutaro is a mythical||" in the five billionth obscure way this month

[lethal iris]

Terapagos is so cute

[spare hare]

||honestly it's really weird that they're doing something separate for dokutaro||

||imagine missing out on this pokemon bc you bought the game not immediately after the dlc and it's supposed to be part of the loyal three story||

[spice timber]

it honestly feels to me that ||they're gonna do something unique with it instead of locking it to an event like the last several mythicals||

[spare hare]

||is it supposed to be in the game but not obtainable until later or something||

||bc we know there's a big hp bar for it like the other big pokemon bosses||

[spice timber]

||i can't imagine that it'll be time-locked if it appears in the story||

||maybe it literally is just a mon that'll be patched in later on to keep it secret like wake and leaves||

[spare hare]

||idk if it's not in a story event or sidequest in the dlc I feel like it's kind of bad either way||

||Like either you include a quest later on that's completely missable if you don't get the pokemon or a pokemon important to another quest line has no story significance or extra scenes ||

||and just becomes another mythical||

[spice timber]

also, ||if it's something you can't get at all, why would it be explicitly teased in mask?||

[spare hare]

||well doesn't that imply they could totally just include it later then||

||bc they're not afraid to tease stuff that's added way later||

||like the paradox legendaries||

||also the way game freak played it in teal mask, most ppl playing the game normally wouldn't even know it existed||

||the only reason people know about it and think it's significant is bc of the datamined image and codename||

||it's not really teased in the game as a new pokemon unless you count the fact you can barely see the art for it at the edge of a cutscene||

[spice timber]

||yeah, it's something you really have to be looking at to notice||

[spice timber]

tbf it also ||shows up as a plushy in front of that one store||

[spare hare]

Yea but thats a completely after the fact observation

||no one was talking about the plushie until we saw the datamined image||

[spice timber]

yeah, defo

in fact, we literally had a teaser for teal mask in the base game

and no one caught it for several months despite it being at a mandatory place in the game

[spare hare]

Me looking at every low res texture in the game to see if they're teasing the next new batch of content

||https://vxtwitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1703252613129490454 ||

||https://vxtwitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1703579923397366110?t=AZhhXfkNy37SXq3I37t27A&s=19 ||

(this is in reference to ||boss hp||)

[lethal iris]

What does the Zombies mean

[spare hare]

||i guess it is possible they simply include the dokutaro event data in the game in advance without having it be playable at launch ||

[spice timber]

iirc the rumor is that that's in relation to ||the crystal pool in kitakami, which is said to let you meet the dead||

[spare hare]

||but it'd be so weird to include it this far in advance if they're just gonna wait to introduce it anyways||

[lethal iris]

What the wanya is this last one || futatsuna_su_1131_00 - Presumably "dokutaro"||

[spare hare]

||that's the poison peach pokemon that's hidden in the loyal three cutscene||

[lethal iris]

Where?

[lethal iris]

I didn’t see anything in that cutscene as suspicious

[spare hare]

the cutscene is shown ingame, this particular piece of art was datamined since you can't see the full thing ingame

[lethal iris]

It could just be a reuniclus

[spare hare]

it absolutely is not

[lethal iris]

That’s very depressed

[spare hare]

||there's also a plushie of it in front of the kitakami store||

[lethal iris]

That could just be a odd shape that she happens to have

There’s no way that’s actually a living being

[marble sand]

fainted amongus

[spare hare]

||well we don't know if that particular thing in the picture is the actual pokemon||

||it just looks like the thing that was datamined||

[lethal iris]

What ever this weird creature is, what was it doing in the files for some reason

[tropic pollen]

interesting

[spare hare]

||the popular theory was that it was the mastermind behind the loyal three gaining their powers in the first place, since it's implied they used to be wimps||

||which is also why all 3 of them have toxic chains that are the same shape as this thing||

||in addition all of them are called the "retainer pokemon" which implies there's a master out there||

[lethal iris]

||But the picture shows that it’s a floating orb with no limbs||

[tropic pollen]

you need to tag all these things

[spice timber]

the thought rn is that ||it opens up to reveal an inner form||

[lethal iris]

Oops, my bad Jedi

[spice timber]

also, it very heavily resembles ||glimmora||

[lethal iris]

Do we need a knife to open it up

[lethal iris]

But Glimmora is a chunk of Garlic, ||the pictured creature doesn’t look like one||

[spice timber]

it's a ||peach||

[split swan]

The ||cone piece could be where the head is, which would make it look like Glimmora and Gilmmlet||

[lethal iris]

||The flower like thing?||

[wanton trail]

|| https://youtu.be/vNpVaqDo1EA?si=Ord6kSuCAIRM7PkZ|| CHAT

[lethal iris]

….

[surreal vault]

Really?

Clickbait?

[wanton trail]

For the record I am taking this entire video with a grain of salt

||Especially since an attack stat of 168 sounds ludicrous and should not exist||

[lethal iris]

Avert your eyes from clickbait content Rail

[wanton trail]

Ye ik

Its still fun to watch

[lethal iris]

Good Rail

[wanton trail]

Oh thanks for reminding me jedi

[tropic pollen]

oh i can just post the pastebin here without the video lol https://pastebin.com/ksejrB1P <- supposed leak

[wanton trail]

Sorry i said that slightly Rudely

[wanton trail]

Jedi, could you spoil this

[spare hare]

Oh no I saw this yesterday

[wanton trail]

Or does it not need to be spoiled

[spare hare]

This sounds super fake

starts with "I work for tpc" and is an extremely in depth write up going over minute details

[lethal iris]

Otherwise the employee would have been fired

[wanton trail]

Yep

[lethal iris]

If he was one

[spare hare]

Including move distribution and specific stats

[wanton trail]

As I said, take it with a massive grain of salt

[spare hare]

It's fun to read tho ig

[lethal iris]

or report it to YouTube as spam

[wanton trail]

||The name Iron Tines sounds super fun though||

||Paradox Terrakion sounds like my favorite so far||

[tropic pollen]

it better fucking be, this shit is ass

[spare hare]

Guess that means it's real

[tropic pollen]

this is weird

||why the fuck would you make a ghost/poison type and then give it a signature move that's. Ghost. That's coded to be super effected against fairies. That's such a roundabout way to do it||

[spare hare]

||it is much more spammable ig than a poison move||

[tropic pollen]

??? lol

[tropic pollen]

||i guess it is a hard counter to Zacian||

sure okay

[spice timber]

oh my god is this the ||doku momo|| leak

[tropic pollen]

HUH?

[spice timber]

IT IS

i'm gonna call this fake just off of principle but i love reading through these

[vestal arch]

||bullshit because pursuit tm, i don't make the rules||

[spare hare]

It's pretty obviously fake but they did out quite a lot of effort into it

[spice timber]

ok i love the idea of ||dipplin evo getting the poison typing through an ability, that's clever||

||iron tines||, really clever

[wanton trail]

Yeah

Also what makes it fake is the ||bug dragon typing|| 😔

[spare hare]

||actually that part may be true||

||but in general these kind of leaks where they go over every single detail and explain everything are fake||

[wanton trail]

Yeah

||Most likely, a leak that covers something major and shows little to no detail is real||

||Like a super crunchy or poorly cropped image||

||think of the Paradox Jigglypuff leak||

[surreal vault]

||The problem with these fake leaks is that they're piggybacking off the real leaks, which makes the fakes difficult to weed out. Unless Khu pulls a Pyoro to disprove it||

Anyways ||what the fuck are those terrapagos stats||

[surreal vault]

||This goes super fucking hard
Slap on power herb and go to TOWN||

[wanton trail]

||unfortunately most of those Pyoros are just talking about how Khu is the “only reliable source of info”||

[surreal vault]

||RESHIRAM AND ZEKROM GETTING IT LMAO???||

[white garden]

||If this leak is real (it likely isn’t) power herb cell Reshiram is gonna go crazy||

[spare hare]

Also ||bug/dragon/poison is actually a really fucking weird typing||

||if you look at the defensive matchups||

[white garden]

||Solgaleo and Lunala are back but not Necrozma? 1000% fake||

[ivory prawn]

||When the Flying Dragon Fairy weakness||

Oh and ice

Wtf does bug only have two weaknesses

Oh rock

Me when I dont know type matchups

[tropic pollen]

||dont forget psychic||

[ivory prawn]

[tropic pollen]

||does bug resist ground?||

[ivory prawn]

Yes

[tropic pollen]

Gotcha

[ivory prawn]

||Bug isnt weak to psychic||

||Does Bug resist itself||

[spare hare]

No

[ivory prawn]

||So bug/dragon would be resistant to Water, Grass, Electric, Fighting, and Ground||

[spare hare]

||yeah but this post says it also gets an ability that basically gives it the Poison type||

If you consider that it gets funnier

[ivory prawn]

||Like in weakness and resistance in addition to stab?||

[spare hare]

Yes

[white garden]

This

[ivory prawn]

Lmao

[white garden]

||Again, why would you not bring back Necrozma if your bringing back Solgaleo and Lunala||

[ivory prawn]

||He would eated the terapagos||

[velvet bobcat]

||this cant be real. it simply cannot be so. no celebi.||

||impossible. heresy||

[surreal vault]

||What Legendaries and Mythicals are coming back according to this?||

[spare hare]

in terms of mythicals it's ||victini, keldeo, genesect, and meltan line||

||idk about legendaries but it looks like most of them||

[surreal vault]

||Is Necrozma actually missing||

[white garden]

||He’s not on there, this is fake because why would they leave him out if they’re bringing back Solgaleo and Lunala||

[surreal vault]

||An explanation that I have seen is that Necrozma is not included because none of the other UBs are...I dont exactly agree with it but its something||

[lethal iris]

Are you sure the source is legit? I ||heard legendary Pokémon||

[surreal vault]

||It looked shaky before but its fake||

[spice timber]

oftentimes, right before pokemon games come out, text leaks come out like this

[spare hare]

no in fact i think it's fake

[spice timber]

that are really highly detailed but pretty fake

[lethal iris]

|| do we know if past legends are coming back via indigo disk? ||

[spare hare]

||likely yea, i think even khu has hinted as much||

[spice timber]

all we know on that end is from khu

which is not a lot

[lethal iris]

I can’t trust Khu due to past comments that make me uncomfortable

So I would need someone like Matt to back it up

[spice timber]

khu is an asshole

[vestal arch]

mmhm

[spice timber]

the problem is that he's a correct asshole

[lethal iris]

He had previously made claims that Adult content would be in SV

[surreal vault]

What

[vestal arch]

wasn't that just him being a creepy mf

[spice timber]

yeah i don't think he ever said anything like that

[surreal vault]

Yeah probably

[spice timber]

besides being creepy about new content

[rough kelp]

I gonna sue gamefreak for this idea

[velvet bobcat]

"thats right guys project titan is going to include a brand new way of having sex"

• khu, teasing the picnic mechanic, probably

[north fjord]

About time

[white garden]

I mean, there’s Arven’s backstory

Anyways for the love of Gooey ||please tell me Necrozma will be back||

[spare hare]

||as long as the other legendaries come back i'm sure it will||

[dry shell]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[tropic pollen]

Hillariously thats the biggest red flag to me too