Leaks for Pokémon

[rose junco]

||well I was just searching for ones with ブレイク||

[ruby void]

||apparently the crystal, globe and core from arceus are in the game and it's how you change the creation trio to origin form now||

||sadly they are held items, which essentially means giratina origin got nerfed 😔 ||

[ivory prawn]

||Big L moment||

||MFW essentially a 580 mega evolution ||

[spare hare]

Yea it's pretty stupid

[rough kelp]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGhnqFLRSc ||

[restive silo]

||ARE REGIS IN THE GAME I FORGOR||

[rose junco]

||just the gen 8 ones||

[restive silo]

||well that’s good enough lol. My bfs fav mons are the regis and I needed to remember ty||

[rough kelp]

||yeah only the gen 8 ones. which is kinda funny because they put something with 200 speed and a tradeoff of no coverage in a game where you can give it any type you want with a move that becomes said type||

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/spunch-bop-spongebob-crying-cube-mr-krabs-gif-19973394

||ITS SO WEIRD, LET THE OTHER 4 IN||

[spare hare]

||gigas when it inevitably comes back with slow start||

:SCtired:

||it's incredibly funny they also finally gave slow start to another pokemon though (varoom ha)||

[rough kelp]

lol, lmao even

[spice timber]

||imagine trying to use a varoom with that 4x ground weakness before it evolves||

[hot zenith]

||"I knew I should've gotten the turbo..."||

[shell sand]

||Slow Start for Filter||

or you could just settle with ||Overcoat||

[rough kelp]

||me when no speed boost||

[spare hare]

||I think the idea of the base mon being attached to an unga bunga rock car is incredibly funny, for the idea of it being a natural creature||

||but I also wish they had gone the rotom route and let you use it with special vehicles||

[rough kelp]

||true, but can't we just buy a car for it to attach to?||

yeah like|| rotom||

[spice timber]

||i definitely feel like they designed revaroom with starmobiles in mind, so they just gave it a flintstones car for when it's actually used by the player||

||i ain't complaining though lmao||

[rough kelp]

||maybe when team star "admins" are in masters we will get starmobile revavroom||

[rose junco]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxH9bY2dCrM|| game's not even out and someone already figured out how to get out of bounds lmao

(slight area spoilers) lol amazing

[spice timber]

the speedrun tech in this game might be wild if event flags can be skipped this way

[rose junco]

supposedly stuff like this can be done from around the start of the game too

[spice timber]

i wanna see what happens if (endgame spoiler) ||you clip into the loading zone for area 1 before unlocking it||

[rose junco]

also ||you can get Kingambit from raids, if anyone for some reason thought otherwise||
||love this guy lol||

||I like how he spins around when he attacks||

[ivory prawn]

I wish there was a reality where this poke's silhouette leaked first and everybody had to guess what it was

[rose junco]

lmao true it is a funny silhouette

[surreal vault]

People would still make whitebeard jokes

[ivory prawn]

||I dunno kinda looks more like eyebrows||

[spare hare]

||you can kind of tell it has the same type of ribs as bisharp||

[rough kelp]

||idk, if I only see the sihoulette i would think it's an armadillo or anteater||

[surreal vault]

[arctic bobcat]

||i'd honestly guess a beetle with weird wings||

[spice timber]

||the immediate comparison i'd draw is some weird heracross form/evo||

[rough kelp]

me when the ||

[hot zenith]

when the || is ||sus!||

[hot zenith]

||Probably the first thing I'd think is wtf is up with that neck, don't we have enough giraffe Pokemon now?||

[marble sand]

having to resist answering people's ponderings like ||"i wonder if fidough evolves"|| is torture lol

[rough kelp]

does fuecoco evolve

[ruby void]

even before the leaks I assumed ||fidough would have some kind of evolution, considering the pattern of first stage dogs||

[surreal vault]

Also ||the fact that it's dough, something you bake||

[rose junco]

||...and someone just got the Elite 4 music bug in Violet, so it is not a specific game thing lmao (and yes still on version 1.0.1)||

[split swan]

I wonder what rumors and leaks were correct and what were not

story and gameplay spoiler ||like the claim there are multiple champions or EFs ||

[hot zenith]

||How far from the truth that was, instead we have Elite Fours you can only beat once!|| story/gameplay

[spare hare]

List of items you can buy from ||Chansey and delibird chains are 8 badges||
||https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/yx7toh/delibird_presents_chansey_supply_items/ ||

||thank god we can just farm money to buy this shit, now the real question is how difficult is it to farm money ||

[rose junco]

few more Violet Pokedex entries before release, surprised these still haven't been dumped lol

[spice timber]

||coin entity pokemon||
incredible (mon spoilers)

[spice timber]

videos that go hard (mon spoilers, ||gholdengo|| footage)
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722521136578953217/1042672851053985932/tXfQKPt8uZqlFBWY.mp4 ||

[ivory prawn]

Is it slowed down or

[spice timber]

i think the person was lagging pretty hard

but i'm not sure

[arctic bobcat]

seems like emulator lag

[shell sand]

||Porto Marinada? damn id lvoe a whole marinated port||

[velvet bobcat]

||Yoooo||

That town being named like that is pretty funky cause the real counterpart of the town is named ||Porto||

||And Porto is very well known for its marina||

||or whatever you call it in English||

[arctic bobcat]

||there's like twenty-something common words that use mari- as their beginning||

||could refer to the sea, Italian tomato sauce, soaking meat in seasonings, the Italian plumber, the granddaughter of Gerald Robotnik, among others||

[velvet bobcat]

||I feel like it's likely a pun on marinated and marina (a marina is a port area)||

||Marinada does directly translate to marinated||

[shell sand]

yeah i know my borrowed-spanish-from-hundred-years-ago-colonizers

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/MishimaKitan/status/1593104326410776576

箕島 綺譚(they/them) 💖 Support Black Trans Liberation (@MishimaKitan)

Meanwhile, in Japan...

The sentence 「ニャオハ立つな」 ("DON'T STAND UP, SPRIGATITO") has been nominated for the Most Trendy Social Media Buzzword Award 2022, signifying how many people just do not want Sprigatito to stand up in Japan 💀

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https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[tropic pollen]

i love new gens btw

some new kid is going to grow up with Paldean starters as their favorites

's the beauty of capitalism mons

[surreal vault]

So true!!!

[split swan]

Who is (story spoilers) ||the leader of team stars||

[runic prawn]

yeah I love that

[candid nebula]

Huge story spoilers ||penny, who goes by cassiopeia||

[wraith gulch]

same

actually i didn't start playing pokemon games until gen 8 because i never had a console that could play em

[split swan]

the leaks called it

[spice timber]

||https://twitter.com/Sibuna_Switch/status/1593266100627709957?t=X5KwvKrguwKD0wx2Fikh-g&s=19 ||

Anubis (@Sibuna_Switch)

Good morning! Here are your Pokémon Scarlet/Violet shiny rates for version 1.0.1.

Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 3:33 PM

shiny odds datamine

[surreal vault]

Goddamn

||https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1593267501168840707/photo/1 || THE APRIBALLS!

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

In Porto Marinada, there are three auctioneers that will put up a variety of items up for bid that cycle every real-life day. These items include standard items like Poké Balls and Potions, but can even include rare items like the Apricorn Balls, Dream Ball, and Gold Bottle Caps!

Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 3:39 PM

THE APRIBALLS ARE REAAAAL

[serene dagger]

i was gonna complain about outbreaks judging by the ones ive gotten but i forgot lets go is a thing so. nvm. maybe i shouldve tried for that new mon ||charcadet||

how to get sparkling powers (slight postgame spoilers)

[surreal vault]

||https://twitter.com/Sibuna_Switch/status/1593271809872363523?s=20&t=3G_nYGp9LpfcOD5QIZPVmw ||

Anubis (@Sibuna_Switch)

The Pioneer Ribbon has been localized to the "Hisui Ribbon"!

The description is "A Ribbon awarded to a Pokémon that posed for a photograph in Hisui in the distant past."

The title it grants is "of the Distant Past".

Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 3:56 PM

(Ribbon)

[ivory prawn]

||Pioneer Ribbon > Hisui Ribbon
Localizers why||

[spice timber]

ayo holy shit ||farmable dream balls||

[surreal vault]

(Visual glitch(

This is horrific

[spice timber]

mechanic spoilers

https://tenor.com/view/zane-ninjago-lego-ninjago-death-fail-gif-22975365

[surreal vault]

NOOOOOOOOO

||https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1593281862566174720?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1593281862566174720|twgr^9809611422d4d53cedd0d702b487cdcfa2a3d38e|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smogon.com%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Fdatamine-thread-pokemon-information-some-datamines.3710011%2Fpage-3 || HUGE item change

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

In Scarlet & Violet, the Ability Patch now works in reverse!

If you use the Ability Patch on a Pokémon with its HA, the game will assign the Pokémon its first standard Ability. This means if you want the second standard Ability, you'll need to use an Ability Patch AND Capsule.

Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 4:36 PM

LETS GOOOOO

[tropic pollen]

ITS HIS FAULT

[tropic pollen]

DLC WILL INCLUDE ||EGGMAN||

[surreal vault]

(Fake leak)

[tropic pollen]

||Ability: Splatoon 2 Let's Plays||

[spice timber]

||no guard fissure machamp:||

[surreal vault]

Not real

[marble sand]

Who made this and why

[arctic bobcat]

||i'm guessing this is either Lechonk, Dundunsparce, or Tandemaus||

[surreal vault]

It is ||Dundun and Tandemaus||

[tropic pollen]

wait isnt ||Bitter Blade a ghost type move|| (move spoiler)

[surreal vault]

I don't think it's a move spoiler iirc it was revealed

[spice timber]

iirc both armarouge and ceruledge's signatures were fire?

[arctic bobcat]

||ah, so its the difference between them having one more segment/child||

[split swan]

I wonder why they made (story and gameplay spoilers) ||EF only fightable once since they allowed you to refight the GLs if you want||

it feels like the ||EF get the shaft since G6||

(this is safe on its own but may spoil the above so censored in case) ||In gen 7 and 8 they just reuse other characters for the roles, heck the position doesn't even exist in g8 with the 4 refights being part of a tourney instead||

[open cedar]

I'm so damn happy.

[open cedar]

||as if I didn't have enough reason to be disappointed by dunsparce's evolution ||

[candid nebula]

I lived to see the word "slay" be used in pokemon, I can die happy

[tropic pollen]

@surreal vault got a dumb idea

[surreal vault]

Yes?

[tropic pollen]

||When Ceruledge was announced i got this image of it being a former Gallade dying to defend a Gardevoir

Except now with Iron Valiant i now also have the image of said Gardevoir taking up arms themselves, and now when they reunite they do the spiderman point and go “hey wtf i was supposed to be the one avenging you”||

[candid nebula]

This had me flabbergasted (image contains character spoiler)

[surreal vault]

OK this is funny

[candid steeple]

Is Farigiraf of ||Dundunsparce|| funnier?

[surreal vault]

||Dudunsparce is much much funnier||

||In terms of design and the hype around a dunsparce evo and then it's just

Lol||

[manic bane]

I’m glad I resisted looking at story spoilers lol

[candid nebula]

Character spoilers ||Why does he hide his face when he has a face like this? 😭||

[shell sand]

this looks like a xenoblade

[tropic pollen]

I dont see it

[manic bane]

Banger character designs in this game

[rough kelp]

^ reply to said character spoiler with another character spoiler ||tbf when you have to compete with another member of your team who literally looks like a kpop star you would hide your face too||

massive spoilers, like literally every spoilers
BOI.

[vestal arch]

oh boy prosafia 2

[spare hare]

a new prosafia has stepped up to the plate

[rough kelp]

I missed it when mixeli posts funny custom battle 😔

[ivory prawn]

Pokeli was always like this though

I guess before it was mostly with his music uploads

[rough kelp]

oh don't worry he's not the only one though, still massive spoilers

[marble sand]

the first one is excusable cuz it doesn't show any unrevealed mons but the ones after.... sheesh

[rough kelp]

youtubers not trying to fit in as many spoilers as possible in one thumbnail challenge (impossible)

[spice timber]

[ivory prawn]

||PARADOXES ARE NOT LEGENDARIES. JUST LIKE ULTRA BEASTS||

[spice timber]

but why though

[true basin]

||Is this pre or post day one patch? https://twitter.com/cherrim/status/1593292235222978560?s=46&t=CkkH57ChUjBrMAaWYyKl9w||

[wraith gulch]

BREASTS

[true basin]

||If it’s post, yeah that sucks
If it’s pre…please just wait||

||We already know this game is getting a day one patch, so people playing it before the patch and saying “OMG ITS SO BUGGY” feels kinda offputting||

[spice timber]

oh clarification on this clip

https://twitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593307754151772160?t=oJOzpD63YfANwkAWvJ8vLg&s=19

cherrim @ pkmn scarlet (@Cherrim)

@Jalume02 For the most part gameplay (in handheld) just has a lot of framerate dips. I'd estimate something like 25fps and then will suddenly dip to 15 for no reason. This was just... an extreme outlier (although also before the first town even, so not sure how common it'll be)

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[true basin]

I see

Sucks that I’m a handheld player

I might wait a week or two to see if the frame rate issues gets patched out

[spare hare]

technically the "day 1 patch" already happened a week ago

[true basin]

Oh

[tropic pollen]

but you'll never expect the day 2 patch!

[true basin]

Cant wait for the day 3 patch

Really worried for Scarlet/Violet’s reputation now

Keep in mind that Sword/Shield was hated even before release because of Dexit

The only saving grace is that it’ll likely sell a couple million copies anyway

[tropic pollen]

i mean yeah thats a guarantee

the other day i saw someone refer to pokemon as the junk food of gaming

and like

i love pokemon

its been with me since i was like

8

but

i kinda got where they were coming from nowadays

[ivory prawn]

I see no reality SV will have anywhere close to a bad reputation like SwSh's unless like the game does that shit in the tweet like every half hour

[true basin]

My first game was Pokémon Y, so my standards aren’t as high

But I do hate framerate issues

[runic prawn]

I can see that

[spice timber]

sv is already miles better than swsh ever was

[runic prawn]

but it's junk food I enjoy so

[spice timber]

so i don't think it'll be as bad

pokemon's like comfort food for me

[runic prawn]

same

[spice timber]

something i can always go back to and enjoy in some capacity

[true basin]

It’s probably why I actually really liked SwSh and didn’t start being more critical of it until way later

[ivory prawn]

I refuse to accept that label because Pokemon was glorious from ORAS to LGPE

[true basin]

Though it might also be because it’s where I got my first and only two shinies

[ivory prawn]

Could probably say HGSS instead of ORAS if not for people not liking XY

[marble sand]

simple, rushed, easy to enjoy, terrible working conditions for the people that make it

[spice timber]

even gen 7 had big handholding/railroading problems

[marble sand]

I kinda get it even if it sounded pretentious when that tweet said it

[true basin]

Why did people even hate XY? Is it because of the story?

[spice timber]

also it's not like they're ever being lazy about these games

look at the models in sv

[true basin]

Tbf a lackluster story is kinda expected after what we got out of B2W2’s story

[marble sand]

oh 100% agreed with this

there is so CLEARLY a lot of love out into these games. but they're also clearly rushed to hell and it breaks my heart

[runic prawn]

yeah, devs are not given enough resources

[ivory prawn]

I resent this
Gen VII was literally the best of Pokemon and this was tem actually putting effort into the fine details of the campaign

[runic prawn]

problem is the pokémon company

[tropic pollen]

i skipped gen 3 (I actually bought a used copy of emerald once, but it didnt work :[ ) but i started at Gold, got Platinum, then went thru all games so far except Lets GO P/E and Legends Arc

[true basin]

Which was a tad similar to Star Allies releasing after Robobot but I digress

[runic prawn]

curious why did you skip arceus

[true basin]

Hard agree. Pokémon games would be way more polished if they didn’t release once a year

[tropic pollen]

and if i were to pick a point where pokemon "fell off," it really would be Sword and Shield

[tropic pollen]

didnt feel like it!

[runic prawn]

fair

[true basin]

I could wait a year without a new Pokémon mainline game, or even two

[spice timber]

and then the dlcs/arceus/sv happened and helped

[tropic pollen]

i also didnt get the SwSh DLC

[runic prawn]

also fair

[shell sand]

i think SV will be fine considering no one who cares about Nintendo cares about frame dips

[marble sand]

so many people generalize the situation as "multi million dollar company can't make decent looking games lol" without realizing the giant profit they've made is the reason they crank them out like crazy. they don't wanna stop they wanna keep getting more money and the release schedule, while terrible, clearly nets this profit (look at the sales of swsh)

of course not to mention the push for merch and anime and what not to coincide with the release, ensuring that a delay for quality can NEVER happen

[runic prawn]

I just like pokémon so I have played all since gen 5

[tropic pollen]

actually my Sword playthrough (mono bug) was kinda funny
I got the game at launch and played like

8 hours?

then i played through it before Shining Pearl came out

[ivory prawn]

Me who still considers Gen V a 'Pokemon fell off' in terms of visual design that they recovered from only in Gen VII

[spice timber]

i started with gen 5 technically, but the first ones i remember were gen 6

[tropic pollen]

and i gotta say i cant remember jackshit about any of the SwSh dialogue, i just remember i was not into the story at all

[shell sand]

also the reputation of Pokemon kind of permeates because of everything theyve done up to this point i think its fair on them

[marble sand]

I can't say I agree because gen 5 is gorgeous other than the sprites getting pixelly when they zoom out the screen too much. but I respect your take haha

[spice timber]

then i played 7 and 8, and went and bought/revisited 2/3/4/5

[ivory prawn]

Gen V is technically gorgeous

[runic prawn]

don't blame you

[ivory prawn]

But I hate its use of colors

[marble sand]

that's an interesting take - I never really analyzed the color theory myself

[ivory prawn]

And I mean technically as in on a technical level, not 'well technically '

[tropic pollen]

honestly i think what started putting me off was gen 7? I just remember finishing Sun and not really feeling the need to transfer my guys from ORAS to Alola

[spice timber]

gen 5 when the blandest, most watered-down pokemon designs you've ever seen are the most common pokemon in the region

[runic prawn]

I like how gen 5 looks for a DS game personally

[shell sand]

like Pokemon's reputation fr being "a kids game" and being a technical lamer has been on TPCi's fault so like yeah people would still think its gamefreak's fault but i still think there's some agency for this reputation to exist

[true basin]

This will probably be a spicy hot take for everyone else but I can’t stand how the Pokémon sprites move in gen 5

[ivory prawn]

I do also think the monster designs in Gen V lean a bit too grotesque/monstrous compared to the series average

[tropic pollen]

i did enjoy S/US , but the postgame is comparatively not as enjoyable as it is in gen 6 for me

[true basin]

I preferred when they had shorter movements in previous games

[tropic pollen]

as a result, all my teams from gen 4, 5 and 6 are all chilling in ORAS

[shell sand]

gen 6 had a what

[tropic pollen]

not US

[runic prawn]

I like gen 5 designs

[tropic pollen]

ORAS' postgame is legit bro

[marble sand]

I understand - there are some beastly ones like Gigalith and whatnot - but I think it's kinda badass haha. gen 7 has great designs too tho so can't blame you for preferring it

[shell sand]

oh

[tropic pollen]

i also just like Kalos

[marble sand]

I love zinnia or whatever her name was

[tropic pollen]

in comparison, Alola just kinda has that last part of the last island to explore

which is a glorified route

[vague storm]

I piratedplayed Ult moon and dropped it and haven't touched a pokemon game since

[tropic pollen]

and then uh. not much else

[true basin]

I feel like there was a shift in how Pokémon designs looked between gen 3 and 4/5

Remember when that one guy complained about the designs looking softer, rounder, and more cartoonish?

[marble sand]

idk how popular of an opinion this is but gen 3 has some of the oddest designs to me (other than the current gen)

not in a BAD way but some look really strange

[shell sand]

ya Pokemon dropping off is basically just cuz like, they consistently want to keep making these games without putting enough time and people will keep saying so because its true

[true basin]

Which I hate because Pokémon like dreadnaw are right there

[spice timber]

also the increasing standards of the playerbase

[true basin]

…or however you spell that

[tropic pollen]

Honestly think the national dex helps gen 6 for me. It feels a little discomforting to see some pokemon not have a number to them in 7

[spice timber]

it worked in the ds era because you could just build the games on a grid

[true basin]

Me now remembering Gimmighoul’s evo

[marble sand]

the crunch was always bad it seems but I feel like they really started to crack by swsh. all of a sudden there were these huge flaws that people began noticing. I think developing for modern hardware with the same time allotted as before just didn't work out for them

[spice timber]

EXACTLY

[shell sand]

yes

[true basin]

I LOVE Gimmighoul ||but the evo is…erm||

[spice timber]

and now it's coming to a head

[tropic pollen]

Perhaps this was just inevitable

[shell sand]

and im just talking about this because of the whole reputation point/topic

cuz like. Such is Life if this is what they do

reap what they sow

[spice timber]

at least the mon designs consistently bop

so even if a new game sucks, you can like the mons in it

[runic prawn]

yeah 100%

shame because pokémon devs are very talented

[ivory prawn]

Consider: ORAS, Gen VII, LGPE all look beautiful
Locked camera like FL
SwSh, PLA, SV: Lol bargain bin graphics
Free camera
I blame breath of the wild stop trying to make open areas Pokemon pls

You fucking suck at it

[true basin]

Yeah, I loved the leaked SwSh mon designs so much that I almost didn’t notice Dexit ranters went into overdrive

[runic prawn]

what about BDSP

[marble sand]

they really are - it breaks my heart that conditions are getting like this

[ivory prawn]

BDSP was made by ILCA and has no rights

[marble sand]

I know 100% they would not have released a game with frame rate issues if they had the time to polish it lol. like that's a given but it just shows how absurd the release schedule is

[ivory prawn]

The company literally stands for I Love Computer Art

[true basin]

F for the fans that wanted an outsourced mainline Pokémon game and got BDSP

[tropic pollen]

shining pearl… man what a weird game for me

I found myself enjoying my team a lot, but also not really enjoying the sluggish pace and. Well. Vanilla DP teams lol

[ivory prawn]

There's no reality where they can make a good looking AAA game

[marble sand]

from what I've heard XD was outsourced and that one was damn good (again from what I hear cuz I haven't played it LOL) - this situation tho it kinda flopped

[ivory prawn]

I wish they just did another ORAS instead of making PLA and then outsourcing a remake with no changes

[true basin]

Even I wasn’t really hoping for an outsourced mainline game and I still got disappointed

[tropic pollen]

this is the game where you can go underground and find a Sneael with Icicle Crash, evolve it into a Weavilr and then go beat up Cyrus Team Galactic Boss*’s…. Murkrow.

[spice timber]

every time i look at xd gameplay it takes like 5 billion years to do anything in it

[true basin]

As someone who never played the original RS, I loved the changes ORAS made

I was shocked when I found out Archie originally was white

[ivory prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-gif-9300790

[true basin]

As well as all of Team Aqua for that matter

[spare hare]

also not xd but the game right before

colosseum's devs literally knew nothing about pokemon lol

[tropic pollen]

still slapped

also whats with USUM's weird reputation in the fandom

those games are unilateral improvements over SM but its often regarded as "trash"

[true basin]

• Tabitha now being plus-sized was a nice change of pace from the typical slim character design

[spice timber]

usum is so weird

[tropic pollen]

in my experience

[true basin]

Mostly because of the story changes

[spice timber]

like they're basically platinum but for sumo

[tropic pollen]

no i honestly think its because the Switch had just come out and everyone was expecting a game on it lol

[spice timber]

it's the story, yeah

[true basin]

Lusamine doesn’t really have a proper motivation in USUM iirc

[spare hare]

it's partly bc of the story and partly bc this was after 2 gens without upper versions either

[tropic pollen]

and then USUM was revealed randomly in a summer Pokemon direct

[spare hare]

so it's an obviously better upper version but ultimately it still is very very similar to sm

[tropic pollen]

y'all cant tell me you dont remember "pokemon stars" hype

[true basin]

Unlike in SM where she was regarded as a perfectly chilling villain due to her motivation and actions, in USUM she’s pretty simplified

[marble sand]

the design changes were so good

[tropic pollen]

ok tbf it was five years ago so i dont blame you if you dont

[marble sand]

courtney being a creepy robot girl was cool

[true basin]

Plus her story gets kinda tangled in the Necrozma stuff near the end

[marble sand]

oh I remember

let me tell you usum was a let down when announced

"it's not on the switch???"

[spice timber]

oh also like

[tropic pollen]

god it was so annoyinggg

the fallout was attrocious

[spice timber]

wasn't the story exactly what people bashed about sumo to begin with

or at least the emphasis on story

[tropic pollen]

it was early game cutscenes

[spare hare]

i think it was more of a pacing issue than a story issue

bc yeah the first island is honestly pretty bad

[marble sand]

in hindsight (and even back then) it makes sense they didn't jump consoles for a third version. but nevertheless the game didn't interest me like stars did - but unrealistic expectations do that

[spare hare]

takes you like 1-2 hours just to get your starter

[marble sand]

I think people liked sumo's story but I could be misremembering

[spice timber]

isn't pokemon like unrealistic expectations: the franchise

people wanted a switch game asap and we got swsh out of it

[marble sand]

lol real

[true basin]

That criticism was only relevant for games like the Bowser’s Inside Story remake when the 3DS was actually becoming irrelevant (or more exactly abandonware)

[marble sand]

tho they announced quickly that they were working on a switch game if you remember so at least it seems swsh was planned for the switch... though there's the theory it was a 3ds game

[marble sand]

ok THAT one pisses me off lol same as extra epic yarn. but I won't get too off topic

[true basin]

Why? Do you think the criticism doesn’t apply there? (You can tell me in DMs)

[marble sand]

no I mean the game being ported was dumb - I'm not mad at you! sorry I wasn't clear

[spice timber]

i mean the BiS remake was on a console where it was really easy to play the original version

[true basin]

Ah, I see

[true basin]

Yep, iirc the 3DS had backwards compatibility with DS games

[marble sand]

think they would have made more of a profit putting BiS on virtual console even if they never did that on the 3ds for ds games

less expenses and more people would have bought it probably

[true basin]

So a remake would work better on a more hardy and advanced console like the switch

[tropic pollen]

nintendo put out the hit on AlphaDream!

[marble sand]

you're right that it kinda does feel like a sabotage lol

[true basin]

Also, it could’ve also helped if AlphaDream had other backup IPs like Intelligent Systems

Even in Paper Mario’s dark age, WarioWare and Fire Emblem is what kept them afloat

[marble sand]

tho I can't imagine Nintendo is that cruel. (but with what we've been hearing from game companies and their decisions, I can't rule out the possibility)

[marble sand]

the fact Nintendo seemingly didn't try to pick up the AD employees is sad. just left them to die when the one series they got to make flopped

[tropic pollen]

"Hey nintendo i see you have a new console coming out do you want us to make games for it like we did for the 3ds? Dream Team sold pretty well!"
"nope, remake your older games

on the older console"

[true basin]

And those were what AlphaDream did have—their first and only original games were Tomato Adventure (hidden gem imo) and that one dragon game

However I’m guessing they were in for the long haul once Nintendo got them to use their own IP

I was even hoping for a Tomato Adventure remaster or sequel before they went bankrupt

[spice timber]

why would nintendo want to kill their own studio though

[marble sand]

guess they just didn't see value in it anymore - but I'm not really sure

[arctic bobcat]

I'm thinking AlphaDream didn't have enough funds to do anything besides recycle their previous work

they didn't have enough resources to do HD development

and I guess for some reason they greenlighted a remake the same year the switch came out!

[true basin]

Reminds me of the trouble Game Freak has with their own IPs

Their golden child is Pokémon, obviously

But their attempts to branch out have little success

Like with Little Town Hero

Which wasn’t even bad, just immediately forgettable due to how generic it was

[spice timber]

and then people also tried to tie it back into pokemon anyways

[true basin]

Yep

I mean, releasing it in the midst of Sw/Sh backlash with little buildup was a bad idea

But it just kinda feels like a game meant to release in the 2000s shovelware era

Ok this is funny though https://twitter.com/db_witch/status/1593362009898110976?s=46&t=CkkH57ChUjBrMAaWYyKl9w

WitchDoctorDB 🏴‍☠️ (@db_witch)

That was actually just Psyduck using his psychic powers to corrupt the game and prevent his capture, unfortunately it wasn't enough

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Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 9:54 PM

[spice timber]

https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1593362025350144008

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

Like with SWSH after the 1.2.0 update, there are eight alternate forms for Pikachu...but a previous report mentioned that there is a placeholder between Partner Cap and World Cap!

To correct more misinformation, this is not true. Form index 8 was and is the LGPE Starter Pikachu.

Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 9:54 PM

man i sure do hope whoever spread this misinformation got suspended

[true basin]

Aww, that would’ve been cool

Pikachu wearing Ash’s caps looks neat

[surreal vault]

Okay but like

This is sussy

||Maybe Ash is leaving the anime after all??||

[tropic pollen]

guess we'll know for sure when the first DLC patch comes out

[split swan]

I don’t get why (mon spoilers) ||the futuremon|| don’t share the shiny pallet of ||their normal selves||

[rough kelp]

question (team star story spoiler)

||is this about penny?||

asking here because this seems very lategame so just asking here to be safe

[true basin]

||Makes sense, kid just won the most important league of his 10 year life||

[storm island]

Currently the 5 Pokemon I want use the most

Need a sixth member who's fast, since non of these have a speed stat of 100 or more

[rough kelp]

uh

is ||tatsugiri|| 100+ speed?

[storm island]

82

It's on Serebii now

[rough kelp]

ah

hmm yeah idk why so many paldea mons have mid speed

too fast for tr, too slow for non-scarf

[storm island]

At least it's not like Alola

Where almost everyone was slow

[rough kelp]

I honestly like alola more, atleast they benefit from TR

[candid nebula]

Story spoilers I guess? ||I just saw someone call pokemon scarlet and violet as pokemon mommy issues and pokemon daddy issues and like it's so true tho 😭||

[marble sand]

if you want my suggestion: ||espathra||

[split swan]

It is a shame the performance is holding the game back

it feels like they really did improve in a lot of other elements

[rough kelp]

^

all the characters feel, unique for once

slight (?) story spoiler ||team star probably has significantly better characterizations than the entirety of team flare and team yell, yeah the bar is low but they are very high above said bar||

[red garden]

||Where would you rank them among the other teams?||

[rough kelp]

hot take: ||skull = star > neo plasma >plasma > galactic > ORAS aqua magma > rocket > aqua magma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flare > yell||

[spice timber]

i agree with that, though i've only watched leaked streams

[rough kelp]

I like relatable villain teams, not world dominating villain teams

[spice timber]

||funny how both of the deepest, most characterized evil teams are just basically juvenile delinquents and not the actually evil people||

[rough kelp]

k, -1 > in front of flare because I kinda find it funny that the entire team of bald admin is their "beauty standard"

I wish you can ||rematch team star|| though

pokemon spoiler ->||they even have pokemon that can be their ace for rematches too, mela with armarouge/ceruledge, giacomo with kingambit, atticus with revavroom, ortega with dachsbun, eri with annihilape||

team star story spoiler with some pokemon spoiler ||I also extremely love that they have all the origins of stuffs they have and how each member contributes
mela in charge of the charcadet/ceruledge/armarouge that power the starmobiles, atticus designing everyone's outfits and IMPLIED to be the one distributing revavroom for the engines, ortega MAKING the starmobiles, giacomo setting up all the rules, and eri giving them physical training in case they have to duke it out against the bullies||

[spare hare]

mon spoilers ||wow there are books scattered throughout the library that actually just straight up name most of the other paradoxes||

||i saw entries for great tusk, slither wing, scream tail, sandy shocks, and brute bonnet||

||you can also see the scarlet book's pictures in the library too, which includes the stuff in the pins||

[restive silo]

||hey someone mentioned glitches that prevent game progress entirely lol how common is that? Doesn’t seem so common but.. OOF||

[rose junco]

||huh is there really? I knew you could get out of bounds and skip stuff but nothing about softlocks, though I haven't really looked||

[restive silo]

||Some little discussion in general chat about it lol but it’s the first time I heard about it. From a video they saw apparently||

[rose junco]

||oh, I thought you meant in a different sense||

[spice timber]

this must be that memory leak

[rose junco]

||yeah performance issues seem common||

[restive silo]

I had to use discord’s search feature to see other discussions about that lol. Memory leak?

I’m sure it’ll be fun as heck though and will still be able to get through it lol

[spice timber]

what it basically means is that if your game starts lagging really really badly, you just save and reset

[restive silo]

I read that in the messages good to know actually

So I can tell some others

[spice timber]

still sucks that it exists but it'll hopefully be patched pretty soon

iirc elden ring had the same issue on launch

[rose junco]

oh, yeah supposedly talking to someone in the first town can softlock the game? there's also other issues but idk how common they are and if they're related to the 'memory leak'

[spice timber]

memory leaks have to do with loading/unloading assets, so that'd be unrelated

[rose junco]

||well there's also the elite 4 music bug of course (though it only happens sometimes)|| (doubt I need to tag that but just incase)

also in relation to memory leak bug, oof
https://twitter.com/kohaku_1125/status/1593286691040940032 (doesn't show much spoilery stuff)

now that's some slowdown

[spice timber]

that pawmi tampering with the fabric of the universe to avoid being caught

[rose junco]

||https://twitter.com/LifePlayMiss/status/1593277698507698176|| (similar video, slight Pokemon spoilers)

[vestal arch]

it was clearly the psyduck in the background

[rose junco]

|| https://twitter.com/yofukashiocho/status/1593356402776772608 || also supposedly this is the bugged guy

夜ふかしおっちょ🦉🌃スプラ大好きVtuber (@yofukashiocho)

おはっちょ！まだ配信中のおっちょです！
今からポケモンSVをプレイする皆さんに注意喚起！最初の街でペリッパーと一緒にいるこのショタには絶対に話しかけないでください！操作不能の進行不可バグが起こります！こいつポケモントレーナーじゃなくてスタンド使いです！！
#ポケモンSV #NintendoSwitch

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Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 9:32 PM

[restive silo]

Lmao

Do NOT talk to his ass !!

[arctic bobcat]

but if you close your eyes
it almost feels like nothing changed at all

[insert video of lumiose city softlock]

[red garden]

The kid and his pelipper are plotting

[rose junco]

||https://twitter.com/nagisa_Vzuki39/status/1593336482223525888|| have one more bug lmao (nothing too spoilery)

[spice timber]

IT'S FUCKING CRAZY FROG

[arctic bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-grand-theft-auto-invisible-car-gif-4576525

wanted to find a gif with the invisible boat mobile but

[manic bane]

literally me riding miraidon

[spice timber]

that's not a bug, that's a feature

[rose junco]

tbh it should be a feature

[candid nebula]

I have seen ||both old and new legendaries' signature move animations|| and I am severely disappointed

[arctic bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/sealot-mario-gumball-gif-19396141

[rose junco]

||https://twitter.com/tuke_asa/status/1593425629143502848|| actual last thing, Sonic Colors Ultimate moment lmao, probably related to the 'memory leak' (Pokemon spoilers)

[spice timber]

that looks like a memory leak kinda thing

[open cedar]

what can i say expect jesus christ

lmfao

[shell sand]

finally makes a good pokemon switch game

unoptimized

[rose junco]

lol yeah there's a lot of bugs/errors/weird stuff, ain't gonna post them all here though

but there really is a lot, people are still posting stuff on JP Twitter lmao

[lunar bridge]

do all the evolution stones have infinite methods? or just fire water leaf and thunder?

[ivory prawn]

Funny glitch || https://twitter.com/Ari_yo_/status/1593278852998254592?s=20&t=dPH92K5dVszXOX5dG5XXNA ||

有吉ありよ (@Ari_yo_)

ホゲータ水中に沈んでいったんやがwwwwwwwwwwwwwww #ポケモンSV #NintendoSwitch

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Twitter · Nov 17, 2022, 4:24 PM

[shell sand]

that mfer died

[velvet bobcat]

Finally a good glitch

[candid steeple]

How do you feel about ||Tinkatink|| being Pokemon number 1000?

[restive silo]

Scared

[shell sand]

y do u have a pet squirrel

[restive silo]

But that’s such a good one for being 1000 lol

[shell sand]

who the hell owns pet squirrels

spanish ppl i guess

[candid steeple]

How so?

[restive silo]

Cause it’s ||a cute little pink thing that hunts corviknight|| it’s just funny lol

I love it so much

[candid steeple]

But then again, Bulbapedia may not have all the new Pokemon in official National Dex order yet.

[restive silo]

Oh yeah

Some waiting 😔

[shell sand]

where do we even get that again anymore

[spare hare]

Pokemon home

[candid steeple]

Can I snuggle ||Clodsire||?

[wraith gulch]

not yet

[split swan]

Mon and story spoilers || so is the rumor that the box legendary you own is your cyclizar after it falls off a cliff wrong||

[shell sand]

that reminds me

is the music "complete" now

[true basin]

checking latest Pokémon stuff on twitter (yes ik)

Yknow

Sword/Shield may have been kinda sucky

But at least it wasn’t as buggy

[serene dagger]

@spare hare help a girl out?

want to post something relating to great tusk in the spoiler thread and im consulting you bc youre like the Most knowledgeable about this game i feel

is this TOO spoilery (Quaking Earth Titan)

actually i suppose i could rephrase it to just. "every time you beat a titan check the surrounding area where you first found it" (||although that only really applies to the worm and quaking earth. theyre the ones that become available only after you beat their titan counterparts||)

[spare hare]

do you mean the stuff outside the spoiler tags? i think that's fine

the game pretty much immediately tells you the title of each titan

[serene dagger]

im not trying to give anything away but i think its easily missable and god was i just like. WOAHHH.

yeah i mean more like if i can just. Post that

with the spoiler tag ofc

[spare hare]

oh lol yeah i tihnk that's fine

[serene dagger]

not much context other than "go look around"

alright cool

[rough kelp]

big shame too, they finally did good in pokemon, story, QoL features

but then the game just have to clip you through the world at almost every action

[oblique fjord]

Hey guys. Me again.
The game looks a little rough. Bugs, performance issues, pretty crappy animations
But at least we still have the baby (Paradox Pokémon spoiler)
I'm still gonna have a blast catching this guy.

[rose junco]

iirc ||Gholdengo is the actual #1000 from the leaked national dex numbers||

||Tinkatink is just #1000 in the internal numbers||

[spare hare]

||no the nat dex numbers you've seen are taking the pokemon in the order they appear in the paldea regional dex and placing them in nat dex order||

||which isn't necessarily how they order the pokemon in the nat dex||

||that being said imo it would be incredibly fitting for the 999 to be gimmighoul||

but we'll have to wait until home to see how they actually handle it

[rose junco]

||if you're talking to me, Khu or whatever his name is confirmed the national dex numbers iirc||

[spare hare]

yes and he used the internal numbers, unless there's a more recent post from him

[rose junco]

what do you mean?

because internal numbers are different

||either way, it would be best to assume Gholdengo would be at 1000||

[spare hare]

first of all no it doesn't make sense to assume lol

and second of all, unless i'm missing a more recent post from him, he posted an image of the pokemon with dex numbers, and ||it lists them in the order of internal number||

you can see ||the weird assortment of pokemon at the end||

again, it just makes sense to wait until home for official word anyways

||the order we have now is incredibly strange and we have to wait to see if the paldea regional dex order actually lines up with nat dex or not||

||just bc gimmighoul being at 999 makes sense does not mean that the rest of the order is correct||

[rose junco]

I'm not talking about that

[spare hare]

then please, point me to what you mean

instead of just saying "that's not what i mean" lol

[rose junco]

this should be it

[spare hare]

you do realize i literally understand none of this right

also this isn't khu

[rose junco]

oh who is it

people were telling me it was

[spare hare]

it's a separate riddler guy on chinese forums

[rose junco]

ah

[spare hare]

they're both known as the riddler

[rose junco]

confusing lol

[rose junco]

https://github.com/Ruimusume/PMSV/blob/main/Pokémon Names.txt anyway here is Chinese names to compare

[tropic pollen]

Khu kinda stopped going by "the riddler" when he became known as Khu

[rose junco]

||褰富豪|| is 1000

[spare hare]

i'm not comparing all the names lol

[tropic pollen]

other than that, "the chinese riddler" `(Khu) has been a thing since... I believe sun and moon days

[spare hare]

but anyways my point literally wasn't that it's impossible for ||gholdengo to not be 1000, my point is that the dex orders floating around are unreliable until we get official home confirmation||

[rose junco]

yeah I don't pay attention to them much lol

I just know about the list because of the Smogon forums

[rose junco]

fair enough I guess

we'll see if this is legit or not when the time comes

[rough kelp]

golden ending

[tropic pollen]

and all was well in the world...

[spare hare]

Mfs when the ||sv dlc is announced||

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-gif-22639183

[arctic bobcat]

how soon do you think it will be

I guess considering the last game's announcements it'll be in January

[spare hare]

Not sure but maybe then

Home compatibility is supposed to drop in spring too, so I could see them bundling details on that and a dlc announcement along with miscellaneous spinoff news in a presents for january or february

[serene dagger]

iirc home support for swsh and ioa dropped around the same time

[split swan]

wait was the dlc already leaked

[marble sand]

end game spoilers ||not the dlc itself but there's strong hints that we will get one due to the peek at the third legend as well as paradox suicune and virizion||

[split swan]

I saw something about (character spoiler) || a dlc leak that reveals atleast Hop is returning as a guest character||

complete with a ||new design||

[rose junco]

DLC ||also the trademark of a Japanese name of an unreleased Pokemon (probably for Paradox Suicune) and two unused placeholder moves (with internal names) and two placeholder slots for Pokemon iirc||

[spare hare]

yep

[silver shore]

i hope they at least try improving the game more with the DLC

like fixing some of the major issues i mean

[split swan]

well its more likely they will make patches

that may come before dlc

[north fjord]

I’m back in here don’t tell me about the endgame please

[marble sand]

everything in here gets tagged - especially something like that so dw

[vague storm]

curious on something, can autobattles kill shinies?

[rose junco]

no

if you mean the Let's Go feature or whatever

[marble sand]

I saw a post that basically said their grafaiai refused to kill a wild pokemon it found because of it being shiny

[ruby void]

There's some footage of it going around

The pokemon refuse to kill the shiny and shake their heads

[vestal arch]

wait so I don't have to be afraid quaxly's gonna destroy a random level 3 shiny??? holy shit they made a good feature

[rough kelp]

yeah

let's go is legitimately a good feature

the fact that you don't HAVE to use it make it excellent

[spare hare]

Also bc like

||Outbreaks ||seem to be the shiny hunting feature of this game for wild encounters

[rough kelp]

there's no reason to not use it over mindless grinding tho

[spare hare]

||so it would be particularly stupid in that context if auto battling could kill shinies||

[rough kelp]

does it have increased chance for big mon in ||outbreak||

[spare hare]

Idk but there's meal powers for that

[vestal arch]

||y'see i'd try outbreaks but mine spawned in the water||

[spare hare]

Lol same

[rough kelp]

wait so if you have ||shiny boost sandwich and shiny charm and enter an outbreak... that sounds kinda hype||

[ivory prawn]

Just learn to swim idiot

[rose junco]

||I saw someone had an outbreak spawn in a wall lol||

[rough kelp]

^new feature spoiler >||we are in your wall 👁️ ||

oh lmao this is leak chat, I thought this was spoiler one

🤦

[serene dagger]

lmao i had a ||glimmet|| outbreak spawn inside a tunnel underground but i just went to that spot in the map and couldn't find them bc i was in the surface. and the game was like "you found the outbreak that was reported!" uhh no sir i did not

the tunnel WAS accessible though so i ended up finding it and smacked all those guys

no shiny sadly

[velvet bobcat]

||what are glimmet anyways? They're the ore pokemon, right? They don't exactly scream "ore" to me||

[rough kelp]

no

||it's the pre-evo of glimora||

||the poison flower mon||

[spare hare]

The category name actually is ||the ore pokemon||

[candid nebula]

Still don't understand what the heck this is supposed to be, major spoilers

[spare hare]

Major spoilers ||it's supposed to be a tease for the 3rd legend||

If you mean what it's supposed to look like ||idk of any specific inspiration but it looks like some kind of ornamental egg. It actually reminds me a lot of ouroboros stones from xenoblade 3||

[candid nebula]

||It kinda looks like some sort of world egg with the planets and stars around it||

[split swan]

It is most likely not its ||true form, maybe a sealed stage||

||it looks like there is a snake face, a crab thing and maybe a horse face too||

[split swan]

Endgame spoilers and mon role spoilers ||I am surprised they ditched the concept of a big organization being a supposed big good, only to be a bit morally dubious, yet they still kept the concept that the main gimmick of the game is derived from a third legendary, though unlike Necrozma and Eternatus, it does not seem to have any connection to the dons, either as a rival or similar being||

[hot zenith]

Oh hey, Serebii found the in-game trade list, I'll go check it out... WAIT WHAT

[surreal vault]

BASED

BASED

The error is corrected

[serene dagger]

HOW

see we're so nice

[tropic pollen]

i really wanted to put the palpatine quote in here but then i remembered its from fucking fortnite

[surreal vault]

I
Had that memory repressed in my head

[tropic pollen]

very sorry

[spare hare]

||Mindy Era is over||

[tropic pollen]

@spare hare (pokemon spoiler)

[spare hare]

Gf are shameless smh

[serene dagger]

when are they making a ||steel electric tentacruel thats supposed to mimic a great ball||

[spare hare]

||mfw the imposter tentacruel assumes the same niche as amoonguss by mimicking a type of poke ball||

[tropic pollen]

||they scrapped R-Fake Gyarados and copied insurgence fr||

[spare hare]

||now hurry up and make that sandman muk||

[tropic pollen]

speaking of new pokemon

[serene dagger]

||normal/poison, fire/grass, electric/fighting, fighting/ground, fighting/fairy, poison/steel, bug/dark?||

[spare hare]

||9 left||

[tropic pollen]

||its crazy that it took 9 generations for a Bug/Dark type to exist||

[spare hare]

||mfw Fairy has less combinations left than normal now lol||

[spare hare]

||and it was NOT a cockroach||

[serene dagger]

||they're still cowards for not making ground/fairy elefantástic but i'm happy with great tusks and iron treads.||

[tropic pollen]

feels weird we dont have ||a normal/bug, rock/ghost or bug/dragon||

[spare hare]

||waiting for when they introduce fusions so we can get the ground/Fairy landamorus||

[split swan]

I wonder what is the logic of the (mon and endgame spoilers) ||paradox mon, why they have the traits that they have compared to their original selves||

Also is (mon spoiler, arguably endgame) ||Is Iron Valiant future Gardevior with Gallade traits or future Gallade with Gardevior traits ||

[ivory prawn]

MFW we've had multiple ||centipede|| pokemon and none were ||bug/dragon||
Mfw ||Runerigus isn't Rock/Ghost for some reason||

[tropic pollen]

||also Annihilape kinda reminds me of Delta Darmanitan||

[north fjord]

WAIT

THEY REFUSED TO KILL THE POKÉMON AND SHOOK THEIR HEADS

I THINK THAT HAPPENED TO ME GAAAAAAAAAA

I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE IT COULDVE BEEN SHINY

I JUST THOUGHT IT CONSIDERED ITSELF TOO WEAK OR SOMETHING

Was probably one of those super subtle Shinies you couldn’t even notice

[velvet bobcat]

Yo does anyone have any way of listening to the game's ost without being spoiled by the thumbnails and comments of YouTube?

[north fjord]

Like Igglybuff or something

[velvet bobcat]

yea to be fair if you can't see the shiny yourself then it's probably not even worth it

I would ignore bad shinies

Unless they evolve into something cool

[north fjord]

Even then

It’s a shiny

[velvet bobcat]

Yeah if you're doing a shiny dex is cool

Or maybe to trade with people doing a shiny dex

[velvet bobcat]

Nevermind lol, already got spoiled for this

[rough kelp]

evil ||mindy|| be like

[serene dagger]

dude

theres something so funny about terrains in this game

im posting here bc too spoilery

but

indeedee and pincurchin r both in the game so psychic and electric surge are available

grassy surge ||wont be available until HOME support with rillaboom||, but before that we have ||seed sower - activates grassy terrain after being hit||

now

||the only pokemon with misty surge in sv||

||is the fairy team star leaders car||

[rough kelp]

yeah i was gonna say that too, I find it extremely funny because ||that starmobile has steel roller, which removes terrain ||

[grizzled turret]

Is it just me but does this Gen have wayyyy to many fighting types for its own good

Like bro spread the love

[serene dagger]

as long as theyre not pure fighting i dont mind

[rough kelp]

ghost-types:

[velvet bobcat]

Ayo, do the gym buildings count has different areas from the main overworld?

Actually this isn't really much of a leak or rumour thing but

[rough kelp]

I dunno, but you can see some of the gym arenas

oh wait do you mean the giant building you go in to register? idk

[velvet bobcat]

Ye

I mean that

[rough kelp]

probably, I think all building interior are seperate areas

[velvet bobcat]

Asking cause of the memory leak issue

Entering and existing those buildings could make things run smoother

[rough kelp]

yeah that sounds right

so they are separated area, when you exit those it reloads the entire overworld, I would assume

[velvet bobcat]

Has anyone ever tried to compare the overall performance of the game after resetting Vs after playing one/two/three hours?

We know it's a memory leak alright, but how much does reloading an area fix?

[rough kelp]

I think someone said the game constantly trying to load the ENTIRE overworld, so the more you explore without entering the building, the more lag you get

like, it still try to load the areas that you left 10 years ago

[velvet bobcat]

Yikes

So what happens if you explore the whole world in one go 💀

[rough kelp]

so you know tadashi hamada big hero 6?

[surreal vault]

The game probably crashes before or after you do that

[rough kelp]

yeah, your switch gonna pull a "someone gotta help"

[surreal vault]

💥

[split swan]

Endgame spoilers ||Even thought the Guardian of Paradise only gets a few scenes and little in the way of characterization, it seems to be the first pokemon with a plot role that is truly detestable, from trying to kill its counterpart to take over Area Zero, to killing the professor that got in its way, to having no qualms to try and take down its counterpart for good twice, to having no qualms with having the paradoxes dominate paldea, Necrozma had a sad backstory and Eternatus did not seem to display real malice and seems to be more indifferent, trying to live in a new home the way any creature desires, Guardian of Paradise wants to dominate||

[sonic hill]

honey. sweetie. big baby boy.

not my pic, i don't have the games, just got it off twitter
but FUCK did they do my boy justice

[surreal vault]

[restive silo]

So freakin true

[silver shore]

i love dragonite

[sonic hill]

a pox be on those who dislike him
"unfitting evolution" my rear end

dude is precious

[open cedar]

Dragonite, my beloved

[arctic bobcat]

looking at the amount of regional forms
||funny how in Gen 8 they were like let's go ALL in, while this gen is like, two species, take it or leave it||

||ok, I guess technically the paradox pokemon are basically regional forms under a different style||

[spare hare]

Yea it's bc ||all the usual regional form designs have basically been subsumed under paradox and convergent mons||

[arctic bobcat]

||they really didn't go that in on convergent mons either though||

[rough kelp]

hopefully it's test the water kinda deal

[arctic bobcat]

||I mean I guess technically we have four of them but they're in two families so eh||

||funny how we get convergent species but none of them look like crabs||

[split swan]

It is kinda funny that the regional forms for the previous 2 gens kept the same names as their original counterparts (mon and endgame spoilers) ||in this game all of the normal region variants have new more fitting names and the Paradox mons don’t even get names except Koraidon and Miraodon||

[marble sand]

||Regional forms are still in this game (wooper and tauros) but are alongside convergent evos (wiglett and toedscool). But you're right that they are more or less the same - just allows them to give them a more appropriate name haha||

[candid nebula]

||it even taunts our Koraidon/Miraidon at the start of the fight||

[rough kelp]

||honestly if we want to be technical the g-birds are technically convergent too, so yeah, nice that they give more approriate names||

[marble sand]

||the name problem goes all the way back to sandslash who got a form that had nothing to do with sand lol. glad they found a way to address it||

[rough kelp]

||true, tbf tho in sandslash case that is the species' name, and they are technically still that species, just adapted||

||but yeah, sandslash who only live in icy lands do be funny||

[split swan]

Mon spoilers (but light) ||what makes the convergent species different from region variants||

Okay there are clear surface level differences but doesn’t seem enough for a new group designation

[rough kelp]

||like, they are completely different in nature, but look similar||

||the two case so far, we have wiglett, who's a garden eels (pure water) that's similar to diglett (a pure ground mole) and toescool, who's a living fungus (grass/ground), looks like but completely unrelated to tentacool(water/poison) in any way||

||it's basically just a way for them to put a new twist on older pokemon without having to explain how a jellyfish evolved (darwin kind, not pokemon kind) into a mushroom||

[spice timber]

||in a way, they're also somewhat joke pokemon and are designed to be goofy||

[rough kelp]

||I find it extremely funny, however, that wugtrio has gooey||

||which is what tangling hair is a copy of, essentially going back to being a dugtrio clone||

[marble sand]

wait that's really funny lol

[shell sand]

the whole point of the convergent species is how 2 completely different species end up the same

like sharks being a fish and orcas/whales being mammals

but they both ended up with dorsal fins with side fins and a tail and live in water

with Wiglett and Diglett the idea is that two "burrowing animals" ended up the same shape bc its an ideal shape for burrowing

[tropic pollen]

shiny lock question: ||Are the paradoxes shiny locked?||

[rose junco]

no iirc

[tropic pollen]

you will be mine

[shell sand]

wow its taranza

[surreal vault]

No

[tropic pollen]

||Flutter mane is so weird||

||its like. Misdreavus but long||

[surreal vault]

I want them so badly

[serene dagger]

||i think it's supposed to be some sort of doll||

||looks stitched together||

[split swan]

that difference explanation makes sense, thank you guys
I do wonder why (endgame spoilers, especially the final boss) ||Guardian of Paradise is just the normal Koraidon/Miraidon, they could have made it the shiny version to make it look different||

[silver shore]

||did the DLC get leaked? and, by any chance, has any information on who's returning as DLC been leaked as well?||

[silver shore]

that is GORGEOUS my lord

[spare hare]

Dlc ||basically all we know is that the two paradox legendaries hinted at through art ingame will be available, and the dlc will go into the 3rd legend more and the origin of terastallization. Also apparently it will have "pkhex" like features ||

This is from ||khu, otherwise we don't know anything else about dlc||

We do know ||what pokemon will be transferable through home but that's separate from what will be returning in dlc presumably, since swsh handled it similarly||

[velvet bobcat]

||Wonder what they mean with "PKhex features"||

[spice timber]

also, ||there are unused trainers in the code who have bulbasaur and gossifleur despite those two not existing in sv, maybe they'll be in the dlc||

[velvet bobcat]

||IMaybe we'll be able to edit the IVs of Pokémon? Or is it something we already can do?||

||If not it would be welcomed, as most of my personal childhood pokemon that I wanna bring to gen 9 have bad IVs||

[spare hare]

||we can technically get stats up to the equivalent of 31 ivs through Hyper training but it would be interesting if we could actually change ivs since that would affect breeding ||

||also to make getting 0 ivs easier||

[velvet bobcat]

Wait which ones are the ones you can't change, EVs or IVs?

[spare hare]

Honestly ||there's not much else that isn't covered by things already in the game so if this literally just lets you select what your pokemon will be like, that's insane||

[spare hare]

IVs

Hyper training only boosts your stats to what they would be at at 31 ivs, it doesn't change the innate iv to 31

So if you breed a pokemon with Hyper trained attack it still passes the shit iv

[velvet bobcat]

So functionally it gives you max IVs in battle, but outside battle they're unchanged?

[spare hare]

EVs can technically be reset through specific berries (also swsh had a feature in dlc that let you reset them for certain items)

[silver shore]

just read up on those replies, DLC is looking really promising

i hope they take their time with it tho

to maybe fix the rest of the game

[velvet bobcat]

I hope they fix the base game first

[spare hare]

You still have the increased stats but yeah, otherwise it's like you still have the normal ivs

[velvet bobcat]

Sounds nice then

Btw, now that hidden power is gone, is there anything that used the hidden power value to replace it?

In other words

Is hidden power value still relevant

[spare hare]

That was based on ivs

But no that doesn't really matter anymore bc they killed hp for the most part

[tropic pollen]

lol ||https://twitter.com/WeedleTwineedle/status/1594072857293819905?s=20&t=ay7dX3UhcKS9QqnUTtTU2g ||

WeedleTwineedleVGC (@WeedleTwineedle)

Question for Scarlet and Violet, Grumpig and Golduck are the only pokemon that can learn simple beam in the game period, but they can only learn simple beam as an egg move, so how do I even get simple beam if nothing learns simple beam through level up?? Gardevoir is crying

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[serene dagger]

||normal-type raids||

[split swan]

I also seen (leak for story content) ||unless it is faked apparently we are gonna get legacy characters in dlc||

like ||Hop from gen 7||

[shell sand]

im gonna splat you he is NOT from gen 7

[velvet bobcat]

Would be cool to see Hau from gen 8 returning

[shell sand]

https://media.giphy.com/media/P1SUDywafn9K12E70f/giphy.gif

anger

[fading sparrow]

Can I get help with evolving ||dolphin||?

[tropic pollen]

POKEMON - INTO THE MULTIVERSE @spare hare @surreal vault

[spare hare]

Lmao

[surreal vault]

[spare hare]

I should play around more with sv before they start testing even more stuff

But I want to play through the game first

[serene dagger]

OK so i just found out ||iron thorns'|| spanish name is ||ferropúas||

this means if you ||breed an english Iron Thorns and a spanish Ferropúas you get Ferrothorn||

[spare hare]

Average scarlet pokedex entry

[serene dagger]

lmao

[split swan]

I got their names mixed up

I just realized that

they are quite similar too, brown skinned characters with 3 letter names that start with H and are biologically related to another main character with character arcs about them trying to prove themselves to said relative

[split swan]

Also (end game mon spoiler) ||To think even thought there are no gen 6 pokemon with paradox counterparts mega salamance is referenced by Roaring Moon||

||Megas get all the shilling||

[oak sandal]

Alright I finished the game (at least the main storyline)

||what the fuck was that finale was that a Kirby ending or Pokémon sun/moon on sheer acid|| (vague spoilers but not really any specifics)

[spice timber]

ending spoilers ||holy shit the "you are challenged by-" dialogue glitching out before fighting the paradise protection protocol and briefly showing the message for when you're out of pokemon is so metal||

[oak sandal]

||dude as someone who’s a fan of out-of-nowhere threatening ai antagonists the entire final battle went so hard also no way in hell Toby Fox didn’t compose the phase 1 theme|| more ending spoilers

[tropic pollen]

Still sad ||Ungaboongus wasn’t real|| (pokemon)

[oak sandal]

||also how do I obtain the other paradox mons? I have delibird and the uhhh… one three headed Unova one I forgot what it’s called, but I wasn’t able to get the others while I was down “there” during the climax. can I just backtrack?|| (spoilers again)

[spice timber]

spoilers ||they all spawn in area zero in the postgame barring iron valiant, who you need to beat the postgame quests for||

[oak sandal]

||I see, so I can just backtrack down there?||

[spice timber]

||yeah, though a few are rare||

[rough kelp]

tbf (pokemon name spoilers) ||koraidon and miraidon are supposed to be paradoxes of cyclizar named "Winged King" and "Iron Serpent", but they got their own name, the current one, that isn't sth like "Future-Cyclizar"||

so ||Ungaboongus still have a chance||

[candid steeple]

Am I allowed to mention the new evolutions in the main Pokemon thread?

[spare hare]

Stick to the spoiler thread for that

[spare hare]

New move animation ||https://vxtwitter.com/i/web/status/1594265996826619904 ||

[rough kelp]

HOLY SHIT IT'S THAT ONE

[ivory prawn]

Based as fuck

[oak sandal]

does talking about early-game (as in first two-three hours, whenever the treasure hunt starts) music count as a spoiler?

[ivory prawn]

If it’s not been in any trailers use the spoiler thread

[candid nebula]

||I miss VS screens like Lusamine's but that one made up for the absence of VS screens||

[shell sand]

is that why its ||Ghost/Fighting||

[rough kelp]

yes

mon spoiler ||it evolves by using rage fist 20 times, and its description straight up says it dies from anger and continue to be angry in the afterlife||

[oak sandal]

||that is one pissed off monkey||

[oak sandal]

||backtracked to area zero looking for space moth, ended up finding another paradoxical motorbike lizard. oops.|| (MASSIVE postgame spoilers)

[spare hare]

Really weird quirk with the abilities for ||the paradox pokemon||

||protosynthesis and quark drive boost speed by 1.5x but every other stat is only boosted by 1.3x||

[split swan]

A shame (end game and postgame spoilers) ||they made the Guardian of Paradise mellow out, was content with it being the first evil Pokémon to be a hate sink||

||especially since it is the first evil mon that actually killed someone||

[open cedar]

||Rest in not peace 😔||

[oak sandal]

||Rest in pissed||

[open cedar]

||Thank you for coming up with a better joke than me||

[split swan]

I wonder if maybe they will have (endgame and potential future content spoilers) || the mc go deeper into Area 0 and challenge powerful Tera raids and Paradox mons and the end will allow us to face the Tera Pokemon||

[hot zenith]

Wasn't sure whether to post here or in spoilers chat but FINAL BOSS SPOILERS ||Did they design the Paradise Protocol Protection system fight to be un-loseable? In one video I saw somebody not go for Endure when the other one used Hyper Beam and it lived on 1 HP anyway because of that affection quirk||

[rough kelp]

yeah

||I do wonder if you continue to not terastalize or not use tera blast will you just, die||

[hot zenith]

||IDK, I haven't seen anyone not terastalize right away||

||I wouldn't be surprised if they outright block you from doing anything but that||

[rough kelp]

wait actually

hold

late game spoiler ||you can do otehr action, but the only streamer who attempted that use a potion to heal the raidon, and the enemy raidon actually attack, so idk if you can go to 0 then||

[spice timber]

massive endgame spoilers ||i love how the final fight straight-up just throws new paradoxes at you with no warning, it's like if mother beast lusamine had a full team of ubs that weren't revealed before launch||

and more spoilers ||the final raidon duel is really cool in how it's kind of both scripted and unscripted||

[hot zenith]

Endgame mon ||I don't care if its name was deconfirmed, if I ever get Brute Bonnet I WILL name it Ungaboongus||

[arctic bobcat]

||mfw they weren't just made code names like ultra beast numbers||

[serene dagger]

POSTGAME SPOILERS ||im doing the academy tournament with a team of 6 scream tails||

[spare hare]

Your team (||they're screaming||)

[sonic saddle]

god I hope ||Landorus Therian|| comes back

||I haven't played SV OU yet but from what I've seen and heard it feels empty without the Utility Glue Cat That Could Do Anything||

[vestal arch]

||I think lando's on the you-can't-actually-get-but-exists list but I havent checked recently||

[spice timber]

||yeah, it's in the game with the other genies because pla is a thing||

[sonic saddle]

||oh sweet||

||ill probs get into SV OU once its real and once more things get banned||

||I wanna use Meowscarada but the landscape makes said mon not be very good compared to all the brokens||

[sonic hill]

game's buggy as fuck but some of the designs are cool

[candid nebula]

Character spoilers? ||Just found out Rika is a woman, I am flabbergasted and devastated||

||I wanted a man with whatever that hairstyle is called 😔||

[arctic bobcat]

a ponytail?

[candid nebula]

Would it be called a ponytail? It's kinda low and long, I think it would be called something else

[rough kelp]

the term is idiot hair

[arctic bobcat]

i like how multi-layered of a name ||Larry||'s name is

[candid nebula]

Oh I'm not referring to the ahoge, I'm referring to this

[red garden]

||Amusing how Rika has become a reverse grusha in terms of reaction||

[candid nebula]

||They really playing with our emotions with the character designs this gen 😭||

[shell sand]

simply be bisexual and enjoy both

[candid nebula]

I mean I am bisexual so

[shell sand]

Yasssss slay

[velvet bobcat]

Been wondering, does any leaker so far have any information about future versions of the game?

[shell sand]

i feel like the leakers were part of the advertising tbh fr

[candid nebula]

👁️👄👁️💅

[serene dagger]

any1 have a pic of ||the third legendary||

preferably w english text from the books

[arctic bobcat]

in the pins

[serene dagger]

havent seen english text in pins

maybe its in the doc

[shell sand]

What

i swear ive seen it english text

[vestal arch]

glad I decided to screenshot this

[shell sand]

There we go

[oak sandal]

wait you can read the books???

[spare hare]

yeah there's a copy of the scarlet/violet book on the first floor of the school

right side, in one of the small hexagonal bookcases

[oak sandal]

violently grabbing my switch

[serene dagger]

didnt see this ty

[ivory prawn]

You can read a bunch of books at school, all the large green ones are readable

And of course the scarlet/violet book

[arctic bobcat]

what boomers believe the current generation is like /j

[tropic pollen]

@blissful egret DLC ||my life if the Paradox Suicune battle theme includes this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFMBJEvWCKw ||

[split swan]

I am still not a fan of how (spoilers throughout the game, specifically the team stars storyline and endgame) ||there is still quite a bit of tell don't show in the game plot, like with Penny and Team Star's backstory (we get something but I don't think we ever see the incidents alluded to in the storyline), the same for the final storyline with the past fight between the dons and the original professor's death, atleast there is a tangiable reason to care this time, unlike a lot of unseen gen 8 stuff but still a bit of a blotch on the narrative||

[rose junco]

(guess I'll post this in here just incase, DLC-related) ||English version doesn't say it's a mythical or anything like that, right? Japanese version calls it a 幻のポケモン ('Phantom Pokemon', Japanese name for Mythical Pokemon)||

(same as before, DLC-related)
it says something like
||"Phantom Pokemon Image"||
||"A Phantom Pokémon created by the observation team member in charge of sketching. Mysterious Pokémon living in the middle and later areas of Area Zero are excessively large and ferocious. Based on their characteristics, they drew this image, imagining what it would look like if there were a Phantom Pokémon in Area Zero."||

[spare hare]

||no it just says fantastical pokemon||

[rose junco]

||that's in English one||

[spare hare]

yeah it says that in the english version

[rose junco]

(DLC-related) English for comparison

||don't know if the Mythical/'Phantom' part of the Japanese one means anything but just something I noticed||

[spare hare]

big story leaks ||i think khu might actually be right, and even though the game talks about time travel and whatnot, the real reason is likely that they actually were created from the imagination of paldea||

[rose junco]

||yeah that's what is implied||

[ivory prawn]

Lmfao so they just didn't realize the term used was ||mythical pokemon|| and translated it directly

[rose junco]

guess so lmao

[spare hare]

big story leaks ||especially bc these in particular are supposed to be sketches from the artist's imagination, the game tells you the scarlet and violet book were once in every household in paldea, and the guy who went into the crater had a cyclizar with him... and obv koraidon and miraidon are basically paradox cyclizar||

[ivory prawn]

||Wtf king !!!!!! I thought they were paradox Whirlipede!!!!||

||Remember when Venipede randomly turned into a wheel for its midstage||

[spare hare]

me when i ||write a countrywide famous book and get my OCs brought into real life||

the sv dlc is actually where ||they reveal that the crystals responsible for terastallization are capable of storing human memories, and the great crater of paldea is actually where the last remnants of humanity end up hiding, later to be called alterna-||

[ivory prawn]

||Ok have you ever thought about how Ultra Beasts were basically 'haha funny dimension power pokemon hi palkia' and then Paradoxes which are basically Ultra Beasts 2 are 'haha funny time pokemon hi dialga' but they're apparently fake
Where is the SM remake where it turns out ultra beasts aren't from another dimension but are actually all created in Aether Foundations labs and a very elaborate cover-up||

[spare hare]

||what about the ub home dimensions in usum then||

[ivory prawn]

||Simulations||

[rose junco]

(lategame story spoilers) ||really though even without the Scarlet/Violet Book there's a lot of stuff about making stuff real, dreams, and paradise, makes you wonder||

[rough kelp]

(same spoiler as discussions above) ||sv dlc (probably): paradoxes are just imaginations, they are not real
future games: yeah this fking hoopa just tp'd all these paradoxes here from another reality where they are actually real||

[ivory prawn]

||Why are all those legends in crown tundra’s funny cave again I forgor||

[serene dagger]

the game has dialogue with ||arven|| implying as much

in the postgame ||you can talk to arven at the academy. when he's in the main hall, he's reading the scarlet/violet book and shows you the page containing "A Disk Pokémon?" and then questions how the Paradoxes could've been documented at a time when the time machine hadn't been created, when Sada/Turo based all their research ON THE BOOK - as in, the book predates the time machine, yet the people who went down to Area Zero had still been witness to the likes of Great Tusk or Iron Treads.||

[arctic bobcat]

||probably the only way to make the futuristic pokemon appearing in the past plausible||

[spare hare]

oh ok makes sense, so they do basically just state it then

[serene dagger]

they state theres something wrong w the logic of a ||time machine|| but they never say what actually is going on

[spare hare]

i honestly do not remember, probably something about ||the huge number of galar particles being an insane source of energy or some shit||

[serene dagger]

probs left for dlc

[spare hare]

yeah probably

gen 6 has got to be the funniest setup for all the legendaries coming back

[rough kelp]

||
you actually also learn the book predating the time machine in history class. sada/turo started venturing down to area zero and doing funny tera orb business 10 years ago where as the book is written by one of the researcher sent down there by the ancient paldea king. so atleast 1000-2000 years ago. his name is heath||

[surreal vault]

The DLC Riddles begin

[serene dagger]

||raichu, its not a starter, therefore dynamax is back||

[restive silo]

Oh god lol

||hey for any old mechanic coming back, that’ll be fun||

By the way is there ANY hint for ||what the blocked off area is on the map? I haven’t even gotten to that area myself in the game but I’m still curious||

[north fjord]

||Mega Evolution is the only one to get carried over to a new game||

[serene dagger]

||mega evolution is the only one to alter a pokemons stats...||

||mega tera confirmed... +2 atk +2 speed dragon tera charizard...||

[ivory prawn]

||Z-Moves are the only one that doesn't change a pokemon physically||
||God this is stupid fuck khu
Worst brand of leaker||

[north fjord]

||Not technically true||

[ivory prawn]

||I mean that's not a Z-Move though, that's just something that you can also do with a Z-Crystal ||

||Huh I guess Khu did post an image of a Z-Crystal instead of the Z-Move symbol||

[surreal vault]

Oh whoops wrong chat

[velvet bobcat]

||mega evolution is the only one exclusive to specific pokemon?||

[candid nebula]

||Kalos? 😳||

[arctic bobcat]

||bitch all of them are different you ain't slick here||

||if they were all the same nobody would even bother considering them the new gimmick of the generation||

[velvet bobcat]

||if they are all different then they're all the same||

||because they all share the property of being different||

||they're all different and therefore are the same||

[arctic bobcat]

mfw leakers call their vague ass meaningless riddles for the sake of being smug shits

[velvet bobcat]

||you, see, it's a metaphor ||

[spare hare]

||it's megas bc it's the only one that a 3rd legendary isn't responsible for creating ||

[velvet bobcat]

||I would love to see megas returning fr, but maybe a bit more balanced||

[spice timber]

maybe (endgame mon spoilers) ||it's megas coming back as entirely different mons like iron valiant and roaring moon||?

[sonic saddle]

||if they bring back the worst generational gimmick I am going to strangle 37 toddlers||

[velvet bobcat]

Kid named 37 toddlers:

[shell sand]

i hope DLC fixes the game fr

and by that i mean without buying the DLC :^)

[arctic bobcat]

you know how Daybreak was the update for Legends Arceus

the update for this game will be Dayfix

short for (What Should Have Been A) Day (1) Fix

[blissful egret]

||Terastalizing is different because it's the only in the current games. Leak: The DLC will include Pokémon you can terastalize.||

[arctic bobcat]

no fucking way

[oak sandal]

||if you squint rayquaza did partially cause mega evolution ||

[ivory prawn]

||Rayquaza did not cause mega evolution??? If anything Primal Groudon and Kyogre did in ORAS but not really||

[oak sandal]

||As far as my understanding of the lore went that's what I remember I haven't read the lore in a while ||

[ivory prawn]

||Rayquaza doesn't have anything to do with Mega Evolution besides being one of the Pokemon that mega evolves||

||Wait I guess the Hoenn people have it recorded as the first one to Mega Evolve but yea no||

[oak sandal]

||pokémon lore is wacky||

||actually, wasn't it AZ's ultimate weapon from x and y that causes mega evolution?||

[ivory prawn]

||I think they actually said it was Yveltal/Xerneas's power irradiating regular evolution stones||

||Tbh I feel like the ultimate weapon would make more sense but ||

Oh wait huh

[oak sandal]

||If I remember everything correctly: the firing of the ultimate weapon causes the split timeline and I think the meteor. If so, that kinda ties into my early crack theory if it has to do with the dlc||

||My old theory was that Area Zero was the impact site of the Ultimate Weapon, and the Terastal crystals were leftovers, as they share a similar design to AZ's Ultimate Weapon||

[tropic pollen]

||ORAS says the first mega evolution was Rayquaza, brought forward by People’s wishes, and not with a mega stone. Theoretically it means mega ray could’ve happened before the Ultimate weapon||

[oak sandal]

||And if Mega Evolution only starts existing around 3,000 years ago, that makes Roaring Moon incredibly... well, paradoxical. ||

[ivory prawn]

||Mega Ray happened 1000 years ago and the ultimate weapon happened 3000 years ago||

||Mega Rayquaza didn't need a Mega Stone because the meteors he eats in the atmosphere contained the same energy, essentially he swallowed a mega stone||

[tropic pollen]

Eat rok

[ivory prawn]

[oak sandal]

||X/Y/ORAS are just a huge can of continuity worms huh||

[ivory prawn]

||But yea basically the timeline is
RSE Pokedex says Deoxys was created from a laser in space
3000 years ago
The Ultimate Weapon is fired into space
2000 years ago
Primal Groudon and Kyogre are fighting over the natural energy of the world
Little meteors fall to Meteor Falls (Mega Stones)
They attract Rayquaza who punt Primal Groudon and Kyogre
1000 years ago
A giant meteor creates Sootopolis by splitting the land which causes the power of nature to leak out
Primal Groudon and Kyogre reawaken to fight over it
The Draconids pray to Rayquaza, which react with the meteor that caused Sootopolis to act as a Key Stone to Mega Evolve Rayquaza who remove Primal Groudon and Kyogre's power
And in modern day
ORAS protag destroy's Primal Groudon/Kyogre's sun/rainclouds which turns it into Mega Stones
Deoxys comes in a world ending meteor||

The funny

[sonic saddle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659932901030232084/1037863342791999518/dattack_strip31.gif

[rough kelp]

this one I think? all 4 others are lovable creatures.

[surreal vault]

[manic bane]

||k-k-k-k-kalos!??!?!?!?||

[marble sand]

What all is specific to this thread at this point?

||mons available through home and the future dlc?||

[ivory prawn]

||The difference is Mega Evolution is the only one that doesn't power up your attacks||

[rough kelp]

acktually ||some mega-exclusive ability like aerilate does power up your attacks||

[ivory prawn]

!!!

[vestal arch]

||khu posts a terrible riddle, the sky is blue.||

[ivory prawn]

||I was about to say no but actually aerilate and stuff do directly apply the multiplier on the move base power doesn't it||

[rough kelp]

yes

[ivory prawn]

||Wait actually Terastal doesn't even affect base power so lol||

[spare hare]

at this point mostly ||dlc stuff||

[ivory prawn]

I could get in huge trouble for this but I heard from @thorny cedar who works at nintendo that ||If you see this message you where just so curious that you decided to click the spoiler and because of that You just got RICKROLLED!!! :WA_Rick_roll: next time just don't be so curious and don't click a spoiled messages if you don't know what awaits HA!||

[manic bane]

||you rascal||

[rough kelp]

one thing I hope for DLC is ||the ability to rematch everyone||

||mfw you can only battle rika and poppy ☝️ time||

[manic bane]

||i wanna rematch the elite 4 ||

[rough kelp]

||with rematch, they can finally give everyone a full team of 6, and maybe some actual strategies (gym leader rematches still only have 5 btw) and you know... actually make geeta team good?????||

[marble sand]

||I hope the dlc has more regional forms like swsh had the slowpoke line||

||or convergents - im not picky||

[rough kelp]

you know how in swsh we got sword, shield, armor and crown?

[manic bane]

we will get scarlet, violet, radio and gamma

[rough kelp]

me when i try to make a point and went radio silent

[restive silo]

They’ve basically done every color now if scarlet and violet = orange and purple + gems and metallic colors

||Dlc is Pokémon copper idk what else lmao||

[rough kelp]

anyways we got ||jurassic marsh and far future cyclizar for main game.|| for dlc we should get ||ancient egypt, pirate seas, wild west, frostbite cave, lost city, dark ages, neon mixtape tour and modern day cyclizar ||

[spare hare]

we need a color for apples (manzana academy)

[spare hare]

||modern day cyclizar IS cyclizar homie||

[rough kelp]

o

uhhh ||in modern day the gimmick is there are portals summoning zombies from other times so give it hyperspace fury or sth idk||

[manic bane]

goty

[rough kelp]

pokemon scarlet and violet's DLC pokemon rufflet and rowlet

[restive silo]

No way

I’d have to buy both

Just noticed you said dlc and not two new games

[spare hare]

:SCLOADING:

[tropic pollen]

Me when DLC leaks before im done with the Main story

[rough kelp]

skissue?