The Super Mario Galaxy Movie

[deep skiff]

||But obv some might say it's good as is and that's fine||

Damn 😭

[abstract scroll]

||wish they did episodic series instead to actually flesh stuff out at least||

[tacit copper]

Super Mario on Netflix

[hearty root]

||But why the retconning||

[narrow holly]

people calling it a gameplay first movie is so funny but also weirdly fitting

[deep skiff]

That's exactly how I feel about it lol

[tacit copper]

it is 100% Miyamoto's design ideals in a movie format

it's a fun product

[abstract scroll]

I've heard people say it was like watching a game that they'd rather be playing 😭

[deep skiff]

It's fascinating such a concept can exist as a movie. It will be studied for science for years to come

[fair linden]

honestly i didn't even think the movie was the most "fun and not much else" to watch because 90% of the plot points were already shown in trailers
i kinda wish it was possible to just skip out on watching trailers while still being active in the community (like in general for every piece of media ever), but unfortunately, the internet

[deep skiff]

Real 😔

||A lot of the key jingling would be more enticing if we didn't see the keys beforehand||

[hearty root]

It's like Miyamoto heard people calling the movies not canon, and now he's attempting to force the movies to be canon

[abstract scroll]

||yeah, the only real 'new' stuff was at the end||

[fair linden]

i still can't get over them showing fox in a fucking poster a week before the movie came out

and the pikmin too. like ||that could've been a fun "oh hey look at that" kinda surprise but we already knew they were gonna be there beforehand||

[deep skiff]

I do in some respect understand the fox thing because I figure they're trying to beat out the inevitable leaker that'd post it first

[tacit copper]

chat I don't think miyamoto gives a single damn about what's canon and what not as long as it's mario and he's funny little man

[hearty root]

I'm still declaring the movies not canon

[tacit heron]

I think the main thing I want carried over from the movie into the games is the way the movies seem to unify the Mario universe

Like with DKC stuff in the first one and SMB2 stuff in the second

Both games that kinda get ignored with Mario stuff

[tacit copper]

doomed timeline in which they carry the movie luma designs into the games

[abstract scroll]

||they should make it partially canon BUT only so they can make Peach trans||

[fair linden]

they are already officially separate continuities to at least some games https://nintendoeverything.com/donkey-kong-bananza-mario-movie-characters/

(also it's pretty obvious that their stories don't align with the games)

[tacit heron]

Stop it

[tacit copper]

this is just sparks of hope

[fair linden]

they should add rabbids to mario movie 3

[narrow holly]

when the shopkeep starts talking about death or whatever

[abstract scroll]

Mario-kun ones also has the mouths iirc

[narrow holly]

:D

^ lumas

[deep skiff]

Illumination will give you a kirby movie and the waddle dees will have mouths just like the lumas and you WILL like it

[abstract scroll]

clearly they should just slowly turn all Lumas into Starfy

[narrow holly]

why didn't illumination include sparks? are they stupid?

[deep skiff]

TRUE

[abstract scroll]

tbh I would not mind lmao

bit of mangas do it and it usually doesn't look too bad

[barren spear]

Best decision ever??????

[narrow holly]

got ur ass @deep skiff

[tacit copper]

i want this thing in a blender

[fair linden]

waddle daa...

[deep skiff]

I could come around to it but I'd probably groan and whine a little bit

[deep skiff]

Who says I disagree with this

[narrow holly]

#lumaa

[abstract scroll]

....DL1 artwork could also be interpretted as having something mouth-like (even if that is definitely not the intention)

[hearty root]

So uh, what does it mean for Peach's movie backstory?

[barren spear]

||I was really hoping they would commit and kill these things at the end of the movie lol||

[narrow holly]

||the director's cut where they add an extra minute to the movie so the mouths are erased off the lumas in the smw 16-bit sequence||

[abstract scroll]

||actually they should make cut of the movie that just removes most of the movie||

[tacit copper]

||lumas sacrificing themselves at the end of galaxy movie genuinely felt more unlikely than maria getting shot at sonic movie 3||

[barren spear]

||Yeah||
||Sonic Movie 3 was funny for what they did they just blew her up lmao||

[tacit copper]

||love is in the air? wrong! gas leak||

[barren spear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-of-highschool-goh-anime-explosion-gif-18308614

[hearty root]

i don't enjoy retcons

[tacit heron]

I don’t mind retcons if they’re harmless

Like sometimes you do want to go back and change story details, nothing is ever fully concrete

If you’re drastically changing a backstory then yeah it gets annoying but the difference between Maria getting shot and getting blown up is pretty minimal

[hearty root]

||I feel like Peach being born from stardust makes no sense||

||I guess Peach is now hundreds of years old?||

[tacit copper]

||oh yeah actually. that is hella lame true||

[hearty root]

so many plot holes

[tacit copper]

||rosa and peach sisterhood is fine by me but the stardust is dumb||

[tacit heron]

Agreed

[tacit copper]

like it would be really silly for them to release this and then go like "oh all of this is wrong btw"

[abstract scroll]

||yeah there's no way to have it be replaced completely without contradicting the storybook, it would have to only be partial||

||hence they should just make Peach the younger (originally) brother :)||

[tame basin]

good

||rosalina and peach being sisters in the games and rosalina being peach’s player 2 in the next peach game 🔥 ||

[hearty root]

||i still hope Rosalina's backstory isn't gonna be completely retconned||

[maiden leaf]

oh

[tame basin]

oh don’t worry. it won’t be retconned. it’ll be under different interpretation

[signal stirrup]

1 day left for Japan…

[lunar thunder]

1 day left for localization (well, actually alternate version) differences maybe making the movie good.

[abstract scroll]

||probably would not unless they basically extended it||

||since lot of the individual scenes/story isn't the problem, it's the pacing of it all and it being jammed into a movie||

[lunar thunder]

||It's the bad solving of the arcs and a lot of the connections feeling meaningless imo.||

||The pacing is secondary and the first movie was good despite it.||

[lunar thunder]

||And this maybe could be solved through dialogue.||

[abstract scroll]

||regardless it would need more work than a localization would do||

[hearty root]

🙂

[compact roost]

Regarding the post over in #1028010369022697593

||I think while there's a chance Miyamoto might tackle a new backstory for Peach based on the Galaxy Movie that may contradict Rosalina's storybook in Super Mario Galaxy (like, the whole sister plot with Peach and Rosalina), I feel I don't think Mario fans should be overthinking into this lol.

As I mentioned in the thread, the Mario series doesn't have a defined canon timeline, and even then some games may contradict each other (such as the events of Super Mario Galaxy and Galaxy 2) or even other media (Mario's origins in Brooklyn contradicting with his birthplace in Yoshi's Island)||

[tame basin]

how does galaxy 2 contradict galaxy, lad

[compact roost]

Actually that might be a pretty bad example lol, considering Galaxy 1's ending cutscene

Also I should note, Mario canon is pretty weird. There's a LOT of one-off lore stuff that is never acknowledged again (such as the Star Children in Yoshi's Island DS)

[tame basin]

true

[compact roost]

Which is why I don't think Mario canon should be taken seriously. There's just... none at all in the first place.

At this point, you might wanna just make headcanons and your own interpretations of a hypothetical Mario timeline

And if you really have all the time and energy to do it, make Mario movies canon in your timeline? Or not? Or make it in-universe movies that Mario and friends are also enjoying too?

[tame basin]

the mario characters are just actors that reprise different roles and stuff

[compact roost]

that's why Mario can even go all out as a doctor, or a plumber, depending on what suits him best

[tame basin]

the movies are canon to me tbh

[compact roost]

Heheh

That's cool

for me I like thinking about the movies as some sort of in-univese movie, same with Mario + Rabbids being an actual Switch game you can buy in the Mushroom Kingdom

[tame basin]

like how superstar saga was just a movie in yoshi theater

[compact roost]

OH that is also a peak reveal too

Complete with the Yoshis cheering and stuff

[tame basin]

yeah i love that ending

[compact roost]

Maybe the Super Mario Galaxy Movie might also show in Yoshi Theater. With Prince Peasley as a special guest viewer

[tame basin]

he only wants to see his favorite actor, green stache

[compact roost]

FR tho!

[lethal forge]

The stuff Miyamoto said has to be taken with a grain of salt for now

Considering machine translations are not accurate

[compact roost]

YEAH fuck machine translations

[tame basin]

does the mario fandom have a residential translator that will translate it properly for us?

[compact roost]

good question because I don't think there's one right now

[tame basin]

oh…

[surreal moss]

Nobody cares we must find an excuse to depict Miyamoto in a negative light and edit him to be the devil in an upcoming yapslop video

[compact roost]

unfortunately the fandom's mindset nowadays

[drowsy knoll]

Personal feeling and criticism on the Galaxy Movie
||I feel like with how fast the movie goes, despite the characters traveling through space everything felt really "small". Like for what should feel like such a grand adventure it felt spatially pretty cramped. And on top of pacing it might also be how much stuff they cram into a single scene. So instead of seeing various galaxy and each collection of planets they have they just cram the most recognizable planets close to each other all at once. I just kinda wish things felt a bit bigger in terms of scale in these aspects ||

[lethal forge]

||things feel grander when the pacing is slower, yeah||

[ember pivot]

besides if miyamoto wants to explore new ideas based on the movie characters, he'll have to take into account the opinions of everyone else who's directly workingon the game, a big example would be Donkey Kong, i doubt theyd significantly alter DK Island to match the movie depiction, or even when it comes to character relationships (another 30 years of is Cranky DK's dad discourse)

[hearty root]

oh yeah, and bananza

[odd crescent]

i think what miyamoto said about the negative reception is more wack tbh

[tame basin]

he was spitting facts tho

[odd crescent]

no?

you dont just get to make an adaptation and make a lot of money and that should be enough to win you accolades

esp when you are illumination + nintendo who already can do it at whim with how much money they have

[signal stirrup]

Finally today is the day /lh

[deep skiff]

Mario time

[tame basin]

i mean, yeah. he moreso said that after they addressed a bunch of the criticisms the first movie had in the sequel. he didn’t expect the reception to be worse than even the first somehow

[signal stirrup]

Kinda wondering what the 5 bonus cards for watching the movie will be

[odd crescent]

but they didnt?

if anything they doubled down on the worst aspects

[signal stirrup]

Since it’s 5 of the 40 cards from NT

[odd crescent]

and even i think this one is less structurally sound than the first

[tame basin]

i thought the pacing was better ngl

also there was barely any licensed music. that was a huge criticism in the first

also more luigi

nintendo/illumination listening tbh tbh tbh

[odd crescent]

i mean

you got "more luigi" but everyone is a blob mass of characters

who is the main character of this film

mario def is the main character in the first he drives everything that happens

in this one the cloest you get is peach

luigi is just another guy like the rest of the cast

though his arc of learning to be brave is really rushed and not well developed in the first it was somethign compared ot him just doing really nothing character wise

music is nice but its dressing compared to the character, plot and world (and i hold that the original tracks in thie one are also inferior to the first)

[lunar thunder]

I think the main character is Mario in the first one due to that. In the second one it's more tricky due to several characters driving everything. I don't even bother looking for who the main character of the Galaxy movie is considering how undercooked everything about its story is.

[tacit copper]

you get no licensed music but every flaw of the first movie is doubled or tripled down

[tame basin]

why does the movie need a main character? tbh

i liked the ensemble cast approach

anyways tho to answer the question mario/peach are the main characters to me

[odd crescent]

i suppose it doesnt but the issue is nobody gets anything

its an ensamble cast of nothingburger people

[tame basin]

eh

[tacit copper]

not every character in the movie needs to go thru an arc but like at least if you want to tell a story you should have at least one

I think peach and bowser were the closest

[tame basin]

bowser’s arc was so peak

[tacit copper]

if this is peak for you then you won't believe how tall mountains can go

[tame basin]

what does that mean

[tacit copper]

the potential is there

[tame basin]

[tacit copper]

I'm saying that, there's a taller peak out there

[tame basin]

oh

[tacit copper]

unfortunately the movie does not reach such height

which is a shame

[tame basin]

i love that the movie subverts a lot of tropes tbh

[tacit copper]

I can agree with that

not necessarily in a positive way but. yeah that is true

[odd crescent]

subversions without substance

[tacit copper]

subversion of basic storytelling tropes

[lunar thunder]

What do you mean?

[tacit copper]

bowser is a good example. he was going in the direction of being split between caring about Mario and caring about Jr, which usually as the trope goes leads to a conflict within the character

the super mario galaxy movie subverts the trope by giving up on that midway

[lunar thunder]

You mean setting up arcs and conflicts and not following them? I don't think that counts as using or subverting tropes.

[tacit copper]

it is certainly a subversion of movie tropes. not saying it's a good thing. but it sure is a thing

[lunar thunder]

Same thing with a lot of the parallels they did.

[odd crescent]

main one i also see is ||mario and fox rivalry into not beign a rivalry|| i saw this one praised a lot as a subversion when its literally just a joke

[lunar thunder]

Agreed lol.

[tacit copper]

the closest to an actual unironical trope subversion is probably either ||the fox and mario thing or. huh. I guess mario giving up on the romance with peach||

[lunar thunder]

||He gave up on the romance with Peach? I don't remember that.||

[tacit copper]

||not necessarily him giving up it's moreso the writers lol||

||movie has some emphasis on Mario's feelings for peach and those feelings are never ever delivered nor picked up again after they give eachother a handshake||

||bro fumbled the bag so bad he perma friendzoned himself||

[odd crescent]

||it was all set up for the joke||

[urban relic]

||mr. Miyamoto pointing a gun at the animator so Mario and Peach remains friends instead of dating||

[lethal forge]

||No? Peach kissed Mario on the cheek, there's still some interest there.||

[lethal forge]

Nothing indicates that lol

||Nothing like misreading the moment and treating it like a flaw.||

My issue is how exactly did the 2nd movie double down on the worst aspects of the first film when imo it felt like a movie with more inspiring choreo and locale going on. 🤷

the 1st movie wasn't much of anything either in terms of an arc.

[tacit copper]

yeah thats true. its not necessarily that mario gave up on that. its just the writers who did

[tacit copper]

absolutely agree with this issue

[lethal forge]

do you?

I'm disagree with Ridel who saying they doubled down on the worse aspects, I felt they did more to be ambitious and maybe didn't go as hard as they should with the plot but the movie excelled way more as a visual roller coaster

so I'm actually agreeing with Miyamoto since I enjoyed the movie more than the last one. I don't even think his comment was that serious since he laughed about it.

[tacit copper]

i misunderstood my bad

i do agree that it is a issue that this movie, despite having more inspiring choreo and locale going on as you said, does double down on the worst aspects of the first film (thats what i meant)

[lunar thunder]

Which comment?

[lethal forge]

“Regarding the critics' reviews of the first film, I remember thinking, ‘they have a point.’ But I figured this time would be different... only to find that the they were even harsher than last time, which I found rather odd (laughs).”

I don't even think he's actually even that wrong about it, the critics went wild and kinda used hyperbolic language to talk about a kids movie that at the end of day, doesn't warrant that much vitriol

like worse than AI?

wanting to literally vomit?

these film critics have seen worse films.

I know I did

[tacit copper]

absolutely agree the critic discourse of this is actual just tagbaiting

you WILL click on the article

i dont really know how did miyamoto think the reception would be better tho lol. either bro saw the wrong criticisms or is just unaware of what the criticism even is in first place

[odd crescent]

this is true

however

i think his response to it being "we made a game into a movie and it made a lot of money" is very silly

[tacit copper]

i know hes an old guy whos like "yeah i only enjoy playing my own games" but like my man this is not your industry

whats miyamotos favourite movies i wonder

[odd crescent]

sonic the hedgehog

[tacit copper]

the angry birds movie

adam sandler pixels

[odd crescent]

and of course

the third hobbit

[tame basin]

you can’t please everyone 😔

[tacit copper]

miyamoto's a nice guy and all and he gets a lot of disrespect those days but my man i think its just best for you to either retire or just. step off the director role lol

[lethal forge]

Nah

[tacit copper]

i mean. most of the great mario games of those days arent really directed by him so like

[lethal forge]

like if you want him to step off from a producer role when he's mroe than earned to do what he wants.

that seems a bit harsh

[tacit copper]

fair in the sense that he did earn the opportunity

but i dont think bro is built for this

[lethal forge]

I feel it's sad that Miyamoto will only be respected full time when he's gone

[tame basin]

what if someone who doesn’t give a shit about mario took over?

[lethal forge]

I'm being absolutely frank, I think he's done more for the video game industry than anyone is willing to admit. We're still getting comments from outside Nintendo that he's made such a mark on them with his advice.

[tame basin]

miyamoto saved gaming

[lethal forge]

we've seen a film/tv director even credit him

[tacit copper]

chat in no world whatsoever some mario hater is gonna take the role of mario director lol

[lethal forge]

he's not even the main director though

i don't think he's even that out of touch, I came in expecting a movie that might be worse than the first film but no, I came away thinking it was better

still not great, but at least much more interesting.

[tacit copper]

he's the first name that appears on the screen when the movie starts. i know he's not the head writers but like. both movies are the most miyamoto things ever

[lethal forge]

seems like you just want to ascribe sole blame just because he's a lot more of a known quantity

[tacit copper]

we know who miyamoto is right

[lethal forge]

Like

If all the worst things the guy does is making movies you don't like and you want him to retire

"get out the way."

I feel it's very much a sense of disrespect

[tame basin]

i like these movies the way they are tbh. so hyped for the third movie

[lethal forge]

I don't think he's doing anything to harm people or even the brand itself.

I also just feel like we're saying he's the sole attributor to why the movie is bad and not also sharing that there could be many other issues why the movie was the way it is. Illumination was never exactly A-rank material even when Miyamoto came to produce these movies.

[tacit copper]

im not here to say that its wrong for the 70+ year old game producer to enjoy making a movie. im just saying he is not good at it. and he is not particularly at his prime on his own department either. so like. retiring is really not a disrespectful suggestion as far as im aware

i know he did not write it. but his influence is immense. its undeniable. bro is a pillar of the production of this movie

[lethal forge]

It is disrespectful because Miyamoto probably wants to enjoy an avenue he really wants to do because it's something new to him and to tell him to retire or go away robs him of that oppurtunity that probably gives him a lot of meaning right now at his current age.

if that means him not being able to give stronger movies with tighter narratives, so be it.

[tacit copper]

i mean yeah if i walked up to someone and told them that they suck at making something they enjoy yeah it is disrespectful

[lethal forge]

this is already him stepping back from the game development side, as Miyamoto is already entering his dawn years.

[tacit copper]

i started my sentence by stating he gets a lot of disrespect and then suggested retirement. i cannot find a less disrespectful way of stating that opinion

[lethal forge]

I think the difference is that retirement means for a lot of old folks is a sense of aimlessness.

A lot of older folks die sooner if they retire because they don't have any purpose to do.

It's why you got a lot of gerontic politicians rn

[tacit copper]

my bad chat

did not consider things that way

[lethal forge]

@tacit copper I should be more fair and it's true that you did say he gets a lot of disrespect, it's just that back then when he was in charge of games, a lot of angry fans told him to retire already.

so perhaps I also associated that with a lot of negativity that rubbed me the wrong way even when those years, he did a lot of good as well.

[urban relic]

I honestly enjoy the Galaxy movie despite its flaws.

[tacit copper]

no its fine your argument is absolutely correct it is not nice to tell an old person they should retire if it can affect them in such a way

a lot of people really treat the man like the devil

[urban relic]

I am a lot more hopeful for movies about smaller Nintendo IP story wise tbh

[tacit copper]

miyamoto will finally make the Wii Music movie

[lethal forge]

I still think you can make a better movie in spite of what miyamoto wants.

he is aware and acknowledge the first movies' problems

and a lot of the interviews shows that he is invested in a narrative and working on a script.

[urban relic]

The main criticism I disagree with is if you say the people behind the movie have zero passion

Cause some people say that

The Galaxy Movie film makers have no passion behind it

[lethal forge]

passion is often misplaced.

[tacit copper]

it is funny in a way to see a 70 year old game designer step into this new medium as a complete newbie and just like making the mistakes a beginner director would lol. completely fine if you never baked a cake before you are likely to make some misjudgements on its conception

this movie is passion first everything else second

[lethal forge]

Like at the end of the day, it's hard for me to really ascribe how much the blame. I think Klu is fair to say he enabled the worst aspects of Illumination.

[tacit copper]

i am very curious to hear about miyamoto's experience with cinema overall. we know a lot of his game tastes and his ideals and stuff and if anything this movie seems to be made of the same kind of stuff but like

im SURE he must have some different experiences on this whole different medium

[lethal forge]

I will read the entire passage

[urban relic]

Sure the story is weak but to undermine literally everything else because the story is weak...

[lethal forge]

it's a shame because you see a different side to Miyamoto

and I think it's like

[hearty root]

Really puts things into perspective

[lethal forge]

someone who's actually interested in trying to build a narrative

[urban relic]

You get more attention using a single sentence Miyamoto say out of context

[lethal forge]

but since people are using the spiciest of passages.

[urban relic]

Than reading the whole thing

[lethal forge]

it is a bit sad that you don't get a complete picture because of it.

[tacit copper]

there were a LOT of attempts at making arcs. nearly every character starts with something. so it makes total sense they wanted to do those things

execution of them is just lackluster to non-existent

[urban relic]

Same flaws as Despicable Me 4

Despicable Me 4 also tried to make arcs for every character but a lot of them falls flat...

[hearty root]

||tbh, I was hoping Bowser would continue with his rehabilitation while being mini||

[urban relic]

Maybe it's because the cast is stretch too thin that their arcs failed to be handle right

[tacit copper]

trope subversion by not finishing the arc lol

[urban relic]

Cause you get everyone trying to get their arcs resolved in a limited runtime

[hearty root]

Yeah I feel like this movie could absolutely benefit from an extra 30 minutes or so

[lethal forge]

They wanted to do empire strikes back

But that movie is a lot longer

A movie like zootopia 2 was a lot easier to pull since it’s just Judy and the Fox

[tacit copper]

i guess maybe if they do a third movie they might as well pick up on the arcs of mario, peach and bowser and like. actually do them

[lethal forge]

It’s likely they might not do a third movie for a while

[tacit copper]

agreed with that belief

[hearty root]

I have a feeling it might be a 6 year wait

[tacit copper]

im sure there will plenty of exciting stuff outside of mario along the way

zelda movie for instance is next year

[urban relic]

From the Kung Fu Panda discord server interview with the assistant director

Illumination and DreamWorks are both under Universal

[acoustic canyon]

I’m partial to the idea that it’s Mario friendzominging Peeach

[lethal forge]

The insane part of people jumping to conclusions is that if we take the machine translated passage at face value

Miyamoto is saying he’ll like to adhere to the adaptation changes wherever possible

[distant leaf]

all screenx and 3d-dbox showtimes just cut off abruptly, at least across the west coast

last chance to see is today if you want to try

[violet hollow]

theyre making way for the amazing digital circulus

[signal stirrup]

Wow

[lunar thunder]

By the way, what were the movie's localization differences?

[signal stirrup]

I can’t watch the Japanese movie till May

[lethal forge]

i'll like to stream the jp dub

[tame basin]

The Super Mario Galaxy Movie - All Hugs

🥹

[signal stirrup]

||Bowser and JR hugging is the most wholesome part of the movie||

[green vector]

|| father and son bonding||

[signal stirrup]

It’s so funny how the moment the movie released in Japan, they’re posting screenshot from in movie that was not really in the trailer or advertisement

(Maybe it’s part of ad in other country because I know US ad posted a lot of stuff that wasn’t in JP ads)

[upper yarrow]

||man fox is so cool, the introduction and explanation of what star fox is was rly good||

||also dont tell me wart's screentime was less than 5 minutes omg||

[abstract scroll]

||characters like Birdo don't even get dialogue.....||

[upper yarrow]

||birdo was done so dirty....||

||also really appreicate the fact they're using ACTUAL mario music||

||the orchestral cover of star fox's main theme? delicious!||

[lethal forge]

||Actually didn't mind their limited screen time but I feel wart and birdo are better given more roles in a spinoff.||

[fair linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1JWVAoSQU hey this is basically the thing i made but in video form

(also obvious spoiler warning for the whole movie, but none in the thumbnail or title)

ah damn ||i forgot duck hunt dog and duck show up in pixels|| (spoiler for character who is not in the mario galaxy movie)

[compact roost]

||do they play Corneria in the background||

||man I desperately want to make a SMBX joke out of it (SMBX's The Invasion 2 uses Corneria for the various "The Invasion" title levels)||

[sand cliff]

I literally JUST watched a video like this but it was for TV show episodes and it was 5 hours long

Almost 6

[fair linden]

holy shit

new video to watch over multiple days ⁉️

[sand cliff]

I watched the entire thing in one day which probably says a lot about me

[fair linden]

i've watched some looong videos in one go but i don't think ever a 6 hour one lol

[agile trench]

I’m not watching this but if I had to guess
If anime counts as TV: ||Pikachu||
If anime doesn’t count as TV: ||Sonic||

[fair linden]

the thumbnail has anime dedede and i think some other anime characters so it definitely counts

...||so it's probably pikachu lol||

[upper yarrow]

||they do but its not the one from the games.....but rather the smash melee cover ||

||arguably the less interesting version of corneria imo||

[sand cliff]

I've watched the video and the answer is:
||Yeah dude of course it's Pikachu lmao
Second place is Pokemon Trainer, because they counted Ash as Pokemon Trainer||

Also just deleted the link, it mentions stuff not allowed on this server I realised

I am now living in fear of my final strike on this server being for this.

[agile trench]

||that is such a copout because its literally official that Red and Ash are different, and pokemon trainer is clearly Red, rigged||

[fair linden]

i'll be honest i did not expect this video to be like 90% just reviews and 10% actually the premise of the video

(also they do also talk about movies including the mario movie in the part of the video that i'm currently at as i'm typing this so it's still valid for this thread don't sue me)

[forest gulch]

Imagine if a Kirby movie said that Galacta Knight is Meta's dad. Would there be as much of a meltdown as ||Rosalina and Peach being sisters?||

[deep skiff]

@forest gulch spoiler policy is almost over but be sure to tag that second comment

[tame basin]

probably moreso

[surreal moss]

Took me too long to recognize what the fuck Kamek was supposed to be

TBF I did not even know the person he was based on was this recurring reference across various film media in general

[heavy crystal]

?

[surreal moss]

Shit, I forgot his name

[deep skiff]

peter lorre? only guy i can think of that fits this specific description

[surreal moss]

that guy

[heavy crystal]

Ahhh

That makes sense

[violet hollow]

when can i talk about this movie outside of this channel

[lethal forge]

may @violet hollow

they'll probably announce it first then we can do it

[topaz wind]

you can discuss spoilers freely wherever once the spoiler policy is over but discussions of the movie should still mainly take place in this thread

[snow cedar]

I believe spoiler policy is now over
Madness is going to be happening at the Mario gaming thread now

Especially in light of that recent Galaxy update and that news article involving Miyamoto's view on ||Peach and Rosalina||

[violet hollow]

no its not its Yoshi now sorry

[surreal moss]

I wouldn't take that one seriously as the articles have been using machine translation, which always lose something

[tame basin]

this scene still peaks

[lethal forge]

if only we had better quality...

[deep skiff]

dw i got you

[agile trench]

Oh,
So that’s why the jakks pacific figure of yosh has the hat and bag

[agile trench]

The digital release isn’t far off from now iirc, and then

Also I’ve seen quite a few moments online and well
||I just absolutely love how dry bowser looks, they made him even more badass while making him more expressive in a way that leads him to be both menacing and hilarious||

[lethal forge]

The movie for better and for worse could be a bedrock of ideas

[agile trench]

There is still something funny about how the jakks merch accidentally revealed R.O.B.’s appearance in the film before the gateway galaxy website with him released

[compact roost]

Something something Tax Fraud

[lethal forge]

something something leaving a hot take

[slow raven]

"Luigi...I've a feeling we're not in Brooklyn, anymore."

[sand cliff]

Spoiler policy is over, you don't need to spoiler tag things anymore

[tacit copper]

we can freely talk about the captain falcon cameo now

[heavy crystal]

Man, i loved it when Kirby appeared in the end credits and said "well that was fun, but it's time for me to Return to Dream Land!"

[sand cliff]

Ok but that's literally what Fox says in the post-credits scene

[tacit copper]

next time, you'll be the star, fox

[upper yarrow]

aight so

i got some final thoughts on the movie

visually its so pleasing

wish it didnt went so fast

i felt it was less a mario galaxy movie and more a celebration to mario's 40 years as a whole instead

i'm really sad that rosalina had so little screentime as well ;;

[cedar notch]

Prob won’t see it but I have heard about that rosalina problem, seen some try to defend it by saying she didn’t do much in galaxy 1 but uh yeah nah

[hearty root]

Me too

[upper yarrow]

i loved fox's cameo tho

easily the best part

[agile trench]

The people that have been saying that galaxy movie not having a cohesive story is ok and are defending it like
Why
That’s the point of a film is it not

[upper yarrow]

love me some appreciation to star fox

[upper yarrow]

b-but galaxy HAD a story

every movie needs to have a cohesive plot

idk if it's bcuz illumination loves to fast pace everything

or it was a miyamoto decision considering he hates putting stories in mario games

[agile trench]

I forgot what people were saying exactly, but whatever it didn’t have, there were people defending its absence

I haven’t had the opportunity to see it yet due to reasons outside of my control

[upper yarrow]

oof

[lethal forge]

Keeping in rosa's backstory won't make it anymore cohesive.

it's a very personal story that was really done well because it was put to the corner in the original game.

I'm not going to say the writing was master class (it's not) but from a structure stand point it made sense.

[cedar notch]

bad image

[lethal forge]

feels like you're also just letting the negative people sawy you to not wathcing it

rather than giving it your own opinion, I get it if you don't want to pay it

[cedar notch]

Nah it’s just because I was gonna see it with a friend but don’t think that’s gonna come to fruition

[agile trench]

Like, before release, I’d been looking at all the footage we had and trying to place an “order of events” and no matter what happened, so often I would think
“Wow there are some things here, even when they clearly go together, they just do not work cohesively”

[cedar notch]

Will prob see it on my own time possibly

[lethal forge]

what is cohesion

[cedar notch]

I do also acknowledge that this picture is just a few idiots and not everyone who likes the movie

[lethal forge]

like geniunely I'm confused because I expected that stuff just happens with no reason to it at all but it all logically makes sense to me from a children's movie perspective

everything was explained, they are scenes that justify the character's actions.

now you can say the movie's plot doesn't explore these moments at all and they don't mesh, that's one thing

[agile trench]

I mean pre-release

[lethal forge]

I'm sorry but people said the same thing regarding the superman movie and those people are using

[upper yarrow]

children arent stupid, they can udnerstand some complexity

[lethal forge]

incredibly shallow criticisms

now, the super man movie is way better than the mario galaxy movie

but I really don't care for the whole, "Oh look at all these vastly different scenes, how could it all work?"

[agile trench]

Like the 2025 film?
Well..that’s a comic book film, It seems to be a staple of that side of things

[lethal forge]

it was a common concern

[agile trench]

I mean super basic bottom of the barrel complaints, not what they were saying about superman specifically, my bad

[cedar notch]

Not sure if I’ll like the movie but if I can get a ticket for a decent price I’ll go see it

[lethal forge]

You could do it through other means.

[hearty root]

Reminds me of 2016

[lethal forge]

[cedar notch]

Such as?

Nvm prob can’t be talked about

[upper yarrow]

i mean the movie is not bad

[lethal forge]

You could want it to be better

[upper yarrow]

visually its pleasing

it uses more mario musci than anything else

[lethal forge]

I also just don't think Rosa's story was going to be 1:1

[upper yarrow]

however if you ewanna see a mario galaxy movie

then its not it

[cedar notch]

Did at least hear that the licence music thankfully got toned down from last time

[lethal forge]

I'm actually left scratching my head whenever people say that.

[hearty root]

I think both Mario movies are Illumination's best looking movies to date

[lethal forge]

i felt there was plenty of galaxy and the space setting itself

perhaps different expectations though

[cedar notch]

They are more recent so it makes sense

[lethal forge]

I do think if they switch fossil falls to melty molten.

[cedar notch]

Illumination does at least make nice looking movies so I’ll give them that

[lethal forge]

or replace the t rex with dino piranha

[upper yarrow]

they are withotu a doubt

[lethal forge]

I mean

even minions and monsters looks good to me.

[cedar notch]

And then set dino piranha on fire

[upper yarrow]

again it felt less like a mario galaxy movie and more of a movie celebrating the 40th anniversary of super mario as a whole

[lethal forge]

Maybe

but it felt like

65 percent Galaxy to me.

well actually 70 come to think of it imo

[hearty root]

Ok but why was Fox in the movie?

[lethal forge]

I think people are vastly kind of forgetting what Galaxy did whenever it did those cubical gravity segments

and then just brilliantly merging it with Peach in the casino

again, that animation is not easy to pull at all.

[cedar notch]

Is kinda weird that Nintendo has started acknowledging odyssey outside of new donk and it’s in a movie based on galaxy of all things lol

[upper yarrow]

miyamoto probably wanted to give him a role. Whether this means star fox is getting a new game or not is yet to be seen...

[lethal forge]

this didn't need to be spoiler tagged

Fox is straight up in the posters

widely promoted in social media

[agile trench]

On top of that I’m pretty sure the spoiler policy ended once may started so everything’s fair game

[hearty root]

I still remember the look on my face when I witnessed Bowser Jr using his magic paintbrush to force Rosalina to be trapped

She got buried in the purple paint and was then forced to be unable to do anything 😭

[compact roost]

Ngl. People wouldn't be complaining if this movie wasn't titled the Super Mario Galaxy Movie lol

[slow raven]

Uh, yeah, they would.

They'd still be complaining about Fox "sidelining" Rosalina, for one.

[hearty root]

i blame bowser jr and his magic paintbrush

[topaz wind]

i blame reggie

[hearty root]

i blame illumination

[topaz wind]

based

[hearty root]

i think illumination's incompetence shined through with this movie

[compact roost]

https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-explains-why-the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-is-so-fast-paced/

Taking the machine translation with a grain of salt until someone proficient in Japanese is able to translate it properly, but this brings up some VERY interesting discussion about the reason why the movie's pacing was made to be this way.

This one:

https://www.ndw.jp/mariogalaxymovie-interview-260424/

the original in Japanese

@signal stirrup is there any chance you could try to make a proper translation of what Miyamoto said from Japanese to English? I really want to see if the information I'm sending is accurate to the original message

[lunar thunder]

As an adult that worries about children's attention (and also wanted the movie to have more dialogue and story), this is the worst decision ever.

[upper yarrow]

that's uh...

that's a terrible decision

:s

[upper yarrow]

i think it's 50/50 actually. Illumination's issues with a fast pacing is present but there's also a bit of blame on miyamoto for beign perhaps a bit too afraid of letting character evolve

like, bowser had to go back to the status quo instead of letting him see beyond his evil vision

[hearty root]

Oh

[upper yarrow]

like, we know he didnt liked that the galaxy devs put a more complex story in the game

so for galaxy 2 he had to smooth things out

while also relegatign rosalina to appear in the ending and bnothing else

tbf that changed on the switch port by giving her a bit mor of time

[odd crescent]

bad

so very bad

[signal stirrup]

I’ll look into it later, but unfortunately I’m busy this month so I’m not sure if I’ll be able to fully translate them

But if there’s like any spot you’ll like clarification or “this sounds wrong” you can always lmk lol

[abstract scroll]

very odd to only fully go in on that in the second movie if they really believed that
.....and also is very ignorant

stuff goes so fast in such a weird way, I'm not sure even a child wouldn't get bored from this and just think of it as background noise lol
(they definitely wouldn't really remember much stuff from the movie either way)

[runic wave]

...this is about as bad of a mindset as you could possibly have for a movie

Literal Instagram Reel movie

[tacit copper]

Tik Tok cinema

[tacit heron]

Video game to movie adaptations are either big love letters to the franchise or disdain for the medium

Calvin dad meme

Sonic 1? Disdain
Sonic 3? Love letter
Far Cry? Disdain
Resident Evil (2026)? Love letter
Despite appearing like a love letter, Mario Galaxy is disdain

[tacit copper]

it's a weird mix between love letter and disdain

it's a love letter to the franchise and disdain for the specific game it's trying to adapt

[hearty root]

What about the live action mario movie?

[tacit copper]

ultra disdain

[lethal forge]

I seriously doubt any of the animators or Miyamoto himself hated Galaxy

[tacit copper]

I don't think they do

[lethal forge]

We are getting into some projection issues due to the movie not living up to people’s expectations

Love letters aren’t necessarily a merit of quality

[tacit copper]

it's just that what Miyamoto wanted to do for a mario galaxy movie does not really represent what a mario galaxy movie (or any movie to begin with) should be like

[lethal forge]

A Mario Galaxy movie you wanted

[tacit copper]

no just any movie, period

I am taking in account the machine translation recently posted

[lethal forge]

Again, seems like Miyamoto and Illumination happily agreed on the decision

[tacit copper]

I mean yeah I don't think illumination would ever say no to an opportunity like this

[lethal forge]

Like first things he says in the paragraph being that was illumination’s method as the default thing they do

Their bread and butter

And then Miyamoto happily thinking that’s fine and enabled it

[runic wave]

Regardless of what Illumination or Miyamoto wanted, I don't think it's unreasonable to have wanted and even expected a movie that's more than just 90 minutes of jingling keys

[lethal forge]

Did I ever say it was unreasonable?

My point from the above was simply objecting to any projected issues on the creators like “disdain for medium” when it’s more like

They’re not good at it

[tame basin]

yeah they really put a lot of love and attention to detail in this movie tbh

[lethal forge]

I think real disdain for me is like

Transformers 2

Or tmnt (bay version)

Or live action stitch

[tame basin]

super mario bros live action 💀

[lethal forge]

Galaxy short comings are just

Narrative things being uncooked but it’s pleasing to look at, the action is fun and the characters are themselves

[tame basin]

its got a lot of funny moments

[lethal forge]

By all the means the movie is pretty mid but I wasn’t left feeling aggravated

Or hollow

I dunno, I knew what I was getting into so when I hear disdain, I would think it just hates the source material or changes it into something revolting

[tame basin]

movie just reached 900 million

its def joining the billion dollar club

we just freaking won

[odd crescent]

or lost

if

you know

[tame basin]

if i know?

[odd crescent]

you know

[tame basin]

i don’t know tbh. what i do know is we’re guaranteed way more movies now

[lethal forge]

I want to ask something but I don’t think the movie deserves this much discussion at this point of time

We’re just being cyclical

[tame basin]

just because some people didn’t like the movie doesn’t mean they’ll all be “bad”. perhaps next movie will suit your fancy

[odd crescent]

it most certainly will just be this

[tame basin]

what does cyclical mean

[odd crescent]

again

[tame basin]

cylinder

[lethal forge]

Repeat talking points again and again

With nothing new to say

[tame basin]

ooooh

ok ok change of topic

[odd crescent]

yea im just gunna say yadda yadda no storiy

[tame basin]

will wario be in the next movie

[odd crescent]

yadda yadda they dont care about it

rinse and repeat until these stop making money

[compact roost]

I am not so sure what even is his thought process anymore atp

[tame basin]

we’ll get these movies till the end of time tbh

thats a lot of cinema

🤤

[compact roost]

Like, dawg... I'm inclined to believe this is not the best mindset to have for making a movie

[tame basin]

his thought process is to have 90 minute, game accurate, fast paced comedic animated movies

and the masses love it

-# me included tbh tbh fr fr fr fr

[lethal forge]

His thought process is misguided

But it’s logical

[tame basin]

people make it seem like he’s out to spite the fans or something

[odd crescent]

ironically in an attempt to be artistic by miyamoto it ends up being corporate af

[compact roost]

Some are taking the "in the name of Stephen Hillenburg route" and are already talking about Satoru Iwata and how they miss that era like, come on now

[tame basin]

they’re losing the plot tbh

[lethal forge]

What is corporate

[odd crescent]

iwata reggie era is so rose tinted by people now

I LIVED THROUGH THE WII U

do not steal my valor

that era was a fucked up mess

they tried their best but they did things cause they were desperate to stay afloat

not cause they were trying to be consumer friendly

[upper yarrow]

i think most of us lived thru the wii u era

[compact roost]

with how little I engage with Mario on social media outside of fanart and a few discussions I think it's safe to say I didn't care much about the era, mostly went for new games regardless

[lethal forge]

Wii U era is the 06 romanticization for Nintendo fans

[tame basin]

wii u era was peakin ngl

[upper yarrow]

...no it wasnt'

[tame basin]

and dont get me started on the 3ds lineup

[upper yarrow]

it was nintendo's lowest points

[tame basin]

eh

[odd crescent]

wii u was def ass man

that thing was struggling to get games

it had good ones

[upper yarrow]

3ds is a whole different beast, there was a HUGE catalog of really great games

wii u was a failure, let's not lie to ourselves

[odd crescent]

but like theres a reason the switch ate its entirely library with ease

[tame basin]

switch leeched off of wii u to gain success ngl

[tame basin]

YEAH

[odd crescent]

it did but that was no help from the wii u

[compact roost]

Yeah Wii U is a flop indeed

[tame basin]

fair enough

[odd crescent]

thats all on the switch being a good console from the get go

[compact roost]

I never even decided to get one lol

[odd crescent]

and because people never played a bunch of wii u games

[compact roost]

My 3DS still looking good in that regard

[odd crescent]

it justified the resell to people

the switch salavaged the failures of the wii u

[upper yarrow]

wii u never got a metroid game, star fox zero failed bcuz miyamoto insisted on the touch screen

[compact roost]

They did a LOT of Wii U ports so now we can properly catch up. where is rainbow curse

Anyways, I digress. Galaxy Movie is such an enigma to me because I feel this might be the first time I see something is definitely wrong

[upper yarrow]

and mario was in a very stale state

the nsmbification hitted hard

[odd crescent]

i think its funny how literally every interview about this movie just makes things worse lol

yea we made it for tiktok babies

mario wasnt a person before the movies

[upper yarrow]

that makes me sad more than anything else

[odd crescent]

peach was made richer

like brother stop

[compact roost]

Yeah. Definitely a case of brand sterilization going on over there

[tame basin]

hold up

[compact roost]

Which thankfully was offsetted with games like SMBW

[upper yarrow]

the first one ended up being a little better cuz at least there was A story

[tame basin]

peach was made richer tho

[odd crescent]

richer in character

is what they mean

[upper yarrow]

that's a place i dont wanna go back, mario managed to reflourish

[odd crescent]

and i def dont agree with that

she is just as "shallow" as her game counterpart

just she is a girlboss now

[lethal forge]

She’s getting better in the games

[odd crescent]

and i dont use that term lightly cause i think its overused

[upper yarrow]

peach shines the most in Peach showtime

also she gets pretty neat roles in spinoffs

[tame basin]

i thought we liked girlbosses here

[tame basin]

true

[odd crescent]

i didnt care for it in the first movie

but ive come around its a cowards approach

afraid to make her too girly

she can be both

[tacit copper]

yes but a change of trope doesn't signify greater depth tho

from shallow damsel in distress to shallow girlboss

she had the biggest arc set up and the weakest resolution

[odd crescent]

so dumb her and rosalina are sisters

like what the fuck are we doing

[compact roost]

I wouldn't overthink it

It at least doesn't affect the games imo

[odd crescent]

i dont really care but as a story choice on its own

whyyyy

[tacit copper]

on the first movie her being shallow is not a flaw as noticeable since the focus is on mario, but in galaxy where she's practically the protagonist, it's ass

[odd crescent]

this doesnt feel set up at all

its kind of ironic they want to be so faithful to the games to the point they will compromise all story and character growth

but this

theyll change this

[compact roost]

There are some people who kinda feel Miyamoto should've stayed quiet and I don't know if they're right or not

Atp he's getting flack because of recent Nintendo Dream interviews and honestly, this begs the question, "Do we care too much about him?"

[modern elk]

I mean first yes
Secondly this is like
His project

Its not like he walked in on someone else's project like 'hey have you thought about this'

[tacit copper]

he has all the right to direct his movie as he pleases

wether that direction is good or not is a different question

(it isn't)

[runic wave]

When the things he talks about wanting for movies are the things that are causing problems for the movies, yea

[hearty root]

Idk, the galaxy movie was like disappointing to me

[compact roost]

Makes me wonder if anyone from the Japanese Mario community ever held to the same sentiments as we did when we watched the Galaxy Movie (note: I didn't LOL)

[tame basin]

they’re cooking something i think

daisy is probably another sister too

so movie 3 might explain everything

[odd crescent]

whatever their cooking is already burnt

[runic wave]

He's still a producer for these movies and therefore has input on them

[tacit copper]

genuinely making daisy ANOTHER sister would completely throw away the very little of worldbuilding they already did

[hearty root]

I actually liked Bowser trying anger management while being tiny

[runic wave]

So yes, it is 100% fair to care and criticize him

[tame basin]

i think undercooked is a better word. theres so many unanswered questions

they just need that extra sauce

[tame basin]

how

[upper yarrow]

i dont even think its greenllighted at this point, tho i would hold my breath on it

[tacit copper]

the secret third sister Rosalina forgot to care about:

[hearty root]

Tbh, my favorite part of the Super Mario Galaxy Movie was the one of the post credits scenes where Bowser and Jr are stuck in prison, and Lumalee starts psychologically torturing them

[tame basin]

oh

well what if daisy was born after peach was gone

[tacit copper]

if peach and rosalina are born from space dust then daisy is born from sand

[hearty root]

That makes no sense imo

[tame basin]

is there a typo…

[tacit copper]

I don't think so??

[upper yarrow]

one thing is sure for me

despite it's outcomes, the galaxy movie is still better than the fnaf 2 movie

[tacit copper]

oh yea there is

my bad chat

[tame basin]

ah

sand dust does sound like a hype origin ngl

[tame basin]

also true

we got an enjoyable movie at the end of the day

with good animation, good music, and tons of hype moments and aura

[runic wave]

I bet we could stop a lot of the criticism deflection by just telling Mario fans they're turning into FNAF fans because they said the exact same things when their movies turned out to be dogshit

[hearty root]

I still wish Rosalina wasn't forced to be the damsel in distress

[compact roost]

tbh I feel the fans are turning insecure again

[hearty root]

That's my biggest issue with The Super Mario Galaxy Movie

[compact roost]

That's why I feel the urge to interact less

And thus these fans eventually get the power to deflect criticism

Thank god I'm not one of them

[upper yarrow]

and yet the galaxy movie, for all it's faults, ends up being enjoyable. Not bcuz it has a plot but you can at least appreciate the references to mario's 40 years. Fnaf 2 doesnt even let you have that cuz it HAS a story and it's written horribly

[abstract scroll]

I only find Galaxy Movie enjoyable outside of actually (normally) watching the movie lol

[tame basin]

🥹

[upper yarrow]

it did a huge favor to star fox at the very least

[tame basin]

true. i barely cared about the series till the movie ngl. seems the same happened to others too

[abstract scroll]

Fox is like the best part lol

[tame basin]

thats damn right

[sudden gate]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-fan-boy-fan-girl-i-cant-so-close-yet-so-far-gif-5856486924810800412

[signal stirrup]

He’s so awesome… 🙏

[urban relic]

Everytime i check here I just feel ashamed for enjoying Mario Galaxy movie as much as I did

Like I guess I cant enjoy movies now

[upper yarrow]

you don't have to feel bad for liking it tho!

after all everyone has their own measurements to love things

i myself liked it but at the same time it makes me sad it wasn't exactly themed around mario galaxy entirely

[urban relic]

I like it and thought the animators clearly have passion for it

[signal stirrup]

There’s nothing wrong with liking something

Just because others may not liked something in the movie or didn’t enjoyed, doesn’t mean you should dislike it or feel ashamed about it

[upper yarrow]

oh that's undeniable, visuals are the best thing in the movie

perhaps it's the most visually stunning movie illumination has done

[signal stirrup]

The animations were amazing

Visuals were so pleasing and attracting

[agile trench]

Wait is it on digital now?

[agile trench]

From what I’ve seen, I love how one specific character looks
How illumination took an already cool design, and made it better while also making it extremely expressive and funny

[tame basin]

well yes but actually no

[tame basin]

father and son bonding 🥹

[agile trench]

Why is rosalina in a pokeball

[tame basin]

oh i just noticed her

[tacit heron]

The iconic Buoy Base Pokeball that is 100% a reference to Pokemon add that to the list the epic Super Mario Galaxy Easter eggs and references list YouTube video circa 2007

Windows movie maker

[tame basin]

im writing it down

[tacit heron]

Mario fans going fucking CRAZY seeing the hidden tiny train in Toy Time Galaxy

[upper yarrow]

i mean...

speaking of...

i DID noticed an easter egg to a

...certain puffball

no this isn't a joke

when the observatory gets luigi's signal and all the lumas are just playing around, while some were reenacting a dk ms mario moment, one pink luma passed flying doing the EXACT same pose kirby does when he floats

[tame basin]

i remember seeing that

it was so peak

it even did the same sound effect too

when hes puffing

[upper yarrow]

much like how samus's gunship appeared for one second

[tame basin]

and little mac and doc

in that yoshi brooklyn scene

illumination with their subtle blink and you miss peak references

🥹

[agile trench]

Ok I’m looking at this
There is no way this isn’t an intentional kirby reference
The movement is identical

[tame basin]

yeah!

[upper yarrow]

that luma is trying really hard to be like our boy

also WAIT I MISSED LITTLE MAC HUH??

[tame basin]

yes, son

why was it spoilered 😢

eh whatever

[upper yarrow]

wow it really was blink and you miss it

[tame basin]

indeed it was

illumination cooked

[lethal forge]

I think some people have just higher barometers

When I watch toon Tariq I feel better that it’s okay to watch and enjoy something people don’t like

[tame basin]

tbh it’s based to like stuff people hate

assuming you’re not liking out of spite cause that’d be cringe obviously

[hearty root]

What happened to her wand

[hearty root]

I feel like Rosalina could of easily escaped

[hearty root]

I mean, he was piloting her observatory

But I think that was only because Bowser Jr caused the arwing to crash

[signal stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/r_gametv/status/2050909985677418840?s=46

レウン (@R_GameTV)

京都にある特別なマリオ映画の広告でロゼッタを綺麗に撮ろうと思ったら、2枚目で急に顔がドアップになって特級呪物みたいになった。

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FxTwitter · May 3, 2026, 12:06 PM

[deep skiff]

Oh she's horrifying

[upper yarrow]

eldritch horror rosalina

[hearty root]

What is this contraption

[cursive valve]

rosalina after exposure to The Contraption

[cedar notch]

poor gal suffered the same fate as squidward

[tacit copper]

industrially accurate rosalina

[tacit heron]

https://tenor.com/view/scanning-for-zoom-in-gif-2015240526116298383

[runic wave]

Big Rosa is watching you

[green vector]

|| i just noticed that in the post credit,the cell that bowser and bowser jr looks like from solid snake||

[tacit copper]

what did kojima meant with this

[tacit heron]

https://skibidix.com/stealth40k/status/2051980871519871148?s=46

Stealth (@Stealth40k)

Miyamoto doesn't rule out Wario appearing in future Mario Movies:
︀︀
︀︀"I think of children as "adults, they just don't have as much knowledge yet." That's why I don't want to make them laugh with dirty jokes, and I've even given Chris a ban on dirty jokes (laughs). Oh, that doesn't mean Wario won't be in it, though.
︀︀
︀︀"Action is something that both adults and children can understand equally, so I think if we make it with action as the main focus, we can create a film that won't be boring."
︀︀
︀︀www.nintendolife.com/news/2026/05/shigeru-miyamoto-doesnt-rule-out-wario-appearing-in-a-future-mario-movie

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FxTwitter · May 6, 2026, 11:02 AM

I didn’t believe Wario was ever off the table but I’m glad to hear this regardless

[tame basin]

can waluigi show up too

[cedar notch]

No reason for him not to be imo

[upper yarrow]

I only expect wario to be voiced by dani devito

[hearty root]

Something tells me Mario movie 3 is gonna be even more bloated

I saw Captain Toad on a cereal box promoting the galaxy movie

I don't think he was anywhere to be seen in the movie

[tame basin]

that wasn’t captain toad

that was toad dressed as captain toad which does happen in the movie for one scene

[ember pivot]

the ukiki scene? about his novel?

[umbral spear]

HOW DID I MISS THIS???

[tame basin]

the scene where they finding the crashed luma

[tame basin]

i missed it too my first time

[upper yarrow]

blink-an-you-miss it kirby....

i DID missed the samus gu nship scene and had to look it up

putting my goats with miliseconds cameos smh

[heavy crystal]

Little Mac too, like crazy

[heavy crystal]

I saw that and was going crazy cause i thought it was Samus, but i thought i was just going crazy

[lethal forge]

I kind of want Wario to have center focus while Waluigi can be anciliary

[ember pivot]

post credit scene has ukiki grab some stuff in sarasaland, aftere a brief chase scene we hear thank you princess! slow pan and it's waluigi going wahhhh (literally the exact same scene)

[cedar notch]

Have waluigi come in during the second half

[slow raven]

Actually, you know what would be even better? Wario "working" under Tatanga, who only wants to kidnap Daisy, only to usurp him due to his greed and personal animus against Mario. Luigi joins Mario against Wario, and it looks like a 2-on-1.

That's when Waluigi comes in.

[fair linden]

https://fxtwitter.com/supermariomovie/status/2054969996275827163

The Super Mario Galaxy Movie (@supermariomovie)

Watch The Super Mario Galaxy Movie at home on May 19 with never-before-seen exclusive bonus features. The Galaxy awaits. https://uni.pictures/MarioGalaxyX

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FxTwitter · May 14, 2026, 5:00 PM

[tacit copper]

oh nice

where is this airing exactly?

[fair linden]

https://fxtwitter.com/MyNintendoNews/status/2054877698636317078 WHAT DO YOU MEAN ONE HOUR??

My Nintendo News (@MyNintendoNews)

Super Mario Galaxy Movie coming digitally 19th May and Blu-Ray 16th June includes 1+ hour of bonus content mynintendonews.com/2026/05/14/super-mario-galaxy-movie-coming-digitally-19th-may-and-blu-ray-16th-june-includes-1-hour-of-bonus-content/

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FxTwitter · May 14, 2026, 10:53 AM

[fair linden]

at home

[ember pivot]

that's almost as long as the movie

[tame basin]

they said they’re going to reveal every easter egg and secrets in the movie

kinda excited to see what we missed

[surreal moss]

Can we address the rpg in the room

[novel frigate]

Bonus content and then it's just the cast interviews on Nintendo Today lol

[compact roost]

I got Mario Galaxy Movie tshirts LMFAO

[green vector]

i wanna see da tshirt

[compact roost]

They're UNIQLO tshirts

[green vector]

o

[hearty root]

If the bonus content doesn't have Rosalina in it, then I don't care

[upper yarrow]

Miyamoto actively censoring her

Serious stories spooks him /hj

[heavy crystal]

Hello Happy Kingdom mention..... err, motif, idk

[hearty root]

For real??

[upper yarrow]

not entiiiiiirely true

but part of me does feel miyamoto resents galaxy a bit

[tacit copper]

i dont think its resentment its just being kinda out of touch with it

not a negative feeling but more like not caring all that much about it

like we say this as if rosa wasn't on 3d world and now wonder

[hearty root]

I thought it was a combination of Illumination's incompetence and Miyamoto's unwillingness to alter the status quote

[upper yarrow]

it's both really

illumination juts can't do a well adjusted movie with an actual plot without trying to make it an neurodivergent's worst nightmare by making everything so fast and so unfocused

[hearty root]

Bowser was having a change of heart in the first half of the movie, but halfway through the movie he just goes back to being evil

[upper yarrow]

and only using really pretty visuals to cover it all

[upper yarrow]

there's also the fact bowser just didnt changed becvause of jr, who actually...... never got punished for almost murdering rosalina

and miyamoto does not like moving the status quo

[hearty root]

Bowser and Jr got thrown in jail and Lumalee is psychologically torturing them

[hearty root]

Yeah that last part is why I never want to see the movie again

[upper yarrow]

outside of that, jr doesnt sees it as punishement, he'll go out and will start doing bad stuffs again

because we GOTTA have the koopas as the big bads later on

[hearty root]

My hopes for the next Mario Movie is Rosalina getting more screen time, but that's wishful thinking

[hearty root]

Now I really hope Jr really pays for sidelining Rosalina like that and letting Fox take over the observatory

And then t rex scene that felt like a waste of time

(I'm still very salty about Rosalina's lack of screen time as you can tell)

[upper yarrow]

the t rex scene could've bee ndeleted and nothing would'dve changed

it was just a jigging key moment of "HEY REMEMBER YOSHI'S ISLAND?REMEMBER IT??? YEA YOU DO!"

the whole movie is less of a grandiose reteelling of mario galaxy and more of a easter egg bonanza celebrating mario's 40 years

[distant leaf]

i mean he was on a film adaptation as soon as possible

[lethal forge]

He doesn't resent Galaxy, please do not interject the motives of a creator. Gets pretty much into the territory of him hating Rare/DKC when he doesn't.

"out of touch" with how Galaxy is recieved within the overall fanbase is a more fair assessment even if I think people aren't approaching it with more nuance to it.

[cedar notch]

No it’s the children who are wrong

[upper yarrow]

by out of touch you mean like, he doesnt get why ppl like galaxy or?

[lethal forge]

I think he gets it halfway but not quite if that makes sense

[upper yarrow]

aahh

[violet hollow]

tbh i understand

if i made game where the regular is quirky bullshit that happens such as the Fire Flower/Ice Flower music

I would not focus on the whole grand space vibe thing that much

[upper yarrow]

W-what

[fair linden]

https://fxtwitter.com/EdwardSabaVO/status/2056755185909706907

EdwardSabaVO (@EdwardSabaVO)

Here are the people behind the Super Mario Galaxy Movie talking about Princess Daisy’s appearance in the post credits scene! 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼#TheSuperMarioGalaxyMovie

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FxTwitter · May 19, 2026, 3:13 PM

[fair linden]

https://fxtwitter.com/AndreSegers/status/2056769364024562140

André (@AndreSegers)

am i missing something or did Mario lose the same power-up twice somehow?

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FxTwitter · May 19, 2026, 4:10 PM

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-fired-simpsons-gif-9162825897901719142

[fair linden]

they really did just put star fox in the mario movie huh

i'm just now processing how fuckin strange that is

[lunar thunder]

I think they're just repeating it for impact. It happens often.

[hearty root]

I still feel like this cameo came at the expense of Rosalina's screen time

That, and the smb2 casino boss rush, and the t rex scene

[fair linden]

no but it's not the same moment
the first time is when he gets hit, and the second time is when the mace gets lifted up again

and when the second shot happens the effect from the first shot is still happening so it just happens twice in a row in the same shot

[lunar thunder]

I still think it's a style choice, though.

[fair linden]

i think i've finally put together why the movie felt so unsatisfying to me

the whole time i was watching it i kinda just felt like i was waiting for a big moment, like for the story to truly begin

and it just... never came

it was just from one scene to another to another to another and just like that the movie's over

like, more of a checklist of things that have to happen rather than a satisfying journey

i felt like it was finally starting with the star fox scene... and then they got turned into babies and 5 minutes were spent on that sidequest

and then when they got to the final location it just felt like it was way too early and that it can't be the end yet, but it was

and they DIDN'T EVEN DO THE FUCKING BLACK HOLE ENDING SCENE FROM THE FIRST GALAXY GAME I JUST AAAAAAAAAAAA

[heavy crystal]

IKR

That's how it felt

It just felt like, "oh it's over?"

[hearty root]

Yeah that's one of my biggest issues with this movie, it's like Illumination tried to shove as many things as they can thinking that can substitute for a story, that and also they would rather have characters from completely different universes have the spotlight than let Rosalina do anything #justiceforrosalina

[signal stirrup]

Honestly it did felt like I was watching a short completion lol

[hearty root]

I thought I would never have beef with illumination again, but the way they treated Rosalina and her backstory made me hate Illumination again

[sand cliff]

I liked every part of the movie individually, but as a whole it felt incomplete.

[silver holly]

I can agree with all that

[upper yarrow]

it needed a more structured plot

its all over the place and there's no payoffs at all

outside of peach saving her long lost sister

[tame basin]

we almost had ness

[hearty root]

Illumination would never

Their last 6 movies have been bloated messes

[upper yarrow]

they cant for their dear lives make that i forgot

they make movies with fast paces so that short atention span kids will watch it which..

...is a bit dishreatening that children nowadays have much less atention span :c

[hearty root]

Very sad

[lunar thunder]

I think what Miyamoto said about the 3 minutes sections caused this.

[violet hollow]

craziest frame

[cedar notch]

super mario rpg

[fair linden]

https://fxtwitter.com/BlazeBinges/status/2057203359510348223 THIS ENTIRE ENDING HAPPENED IN 1 MINUTE AND 45 SECONDS? HOW IS IT EVEN WORSE PACED THAN I REMEMBERED??

Blaze Binges (@BlazeBinges)

The final scene in The Super Mario Galaxy Movie.

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FxTwitter · May 20, 2026, 8:54 PM

literally 2 minutes from "hey mario come meet my sister" to "YUP THAT'S IT ROLL CREDITS BYE"

the funniest part is that this movie doesn't even beat the bechdel test. rosalina has literally ONE SINGULAR LINE she says to peach, and it's in a scene with no other dialogue

[agile trench]

“Oh the castle, uh..it died”
Wow
That is so in character

[fair linden]

according to a transcript of the movie i found, rosalina has exactly 26 lines in the movie
which is only 9 more than fox and almost exactly half of bowser jr's 51 lines

mario has 92
bowser has 76
luigi has 46
toad has 42
yoshi has 20
kamek has 12
wart has 11
rob has 9
honey queen has 6

no wait toad is including all the random toads

toad has 38 i think

rosalina still has less lines than fucking toad

and i don't even remember a single thing toad actually did besides become a penguin at one point and babysit mario and luigi

man this is like the most critical i've ever been about any mario thing ever lol

[upper yarrow]

"mario...where's the castle?"

"yoshi ate it, whoopsies!"

[cedar notch]

classic sonic: you like eating big objects too?

[silver holly]

wow the lumas sound almost the same as in portuguese

that makes sense ig

I also forgot how similar luigi is

[hearty root]

Once again, Illumination's incompetence really shined through the production of this movie

Am I gonna miss out on anything good by avoiding any future movies from them?

[signal stirrup]

It was honestly one of the funniest dialogue in the whole movie

Not saying rest of the movie was bad, it’s just I laughed so hard to the dialogue during my first viewing

[lethal forge]

I love the line tbh, it was good

It felt ad libbed a bit

[signal stirrup]

Yoshi’s face and movement is so funny as well 😭 😭

[barren spear]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshi-ooh-ohhhhh-yooooooo-it-died-gif-7793356301125214693

[violet hollow]

Im luigi

[tacit heron]

https://skibidix.com/stealth40k/status/2057772790522990804?s=46

Stealth (@Stealth40k)

Keegan-Michael Key says the third Super Mario Bros. Movie is coming in 2029.
︀︀
︀︀"We want to get it right. We want to get everything right. We want to get all the details right. And Michael and Aaron, who are our directors, have a real passion for this.
︀︀
︀︀I think they're as passionate about these projects as the audience is. And so we got to get it right, we got to get it right. So I apologize. But it'll be worth the wait. It'll be worth the wait...'29 is better than sometime, right?"
︀︀
︀︀screenrant.com/super-mario-bros-movie-3-2029-release-keegan-michael-key/?taid=d0622d7d-7f41-4ccc-947d-60fe296b435a&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem-SR&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=Twitter

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FxTwitter · May 22, 2026, 10:37 AM

Do you think he was even allowed to say this

Like yeah Mario 3 is happening no shit but like just with how Nintendo operates by keeping everything hush hush

[jovial wyvern]

NDAs?

[hearty root]

If Rosalina isn't gonna be in the third movie, then I don't care

[covert prawn]

I thought the two movies are fine?

Story is whatever, many of the characters are whatever, if I'm being honest, Peach and Bowser hard carried these movies

[hearty root]

I hated what Illumination did to Rosalina and her backstory

I thought Rosalina casually defeated megaleg, only to find out she gets kidnapped 3 minutes of the movie as she gets completely sidelined in favor of Fox and a million references that aren't galaxy

[sand cliff]

Fox has like half the amount of screentime as Rosalina

And even if you say "Well, he still did more" then idk I kinda disagree.
He's just the spaceship guy. That's all he does in the movie.

[hearty root]

Rosalina was stuck in a glass sphere for basically the entire movie

[sand cliff]

Yes, but she's the emotional core of the movie (or at least they tried to make her that)

Fox shows up, flies two ships, and does nothing else.

He could be anyone else, Rosalina is unmistakably Rosalina

Fox is just an easy scapegoat since he's not a Mario character.

[hearty root]

They could have brought back Lubba and starship Mario if that's the case

[upper yarrow]

Rosalina barely does stuff tho

[sand cliff]

Well yes, but that's a different point.
I was only arguing how Fox was less important to the movie than Rosalina, not about the Galaxy content as a whole.

[upper yarrow]

And even in the script she has less lines than fox so....

[sand cliff]

I don't care about that part either way, since I'm not a Galaxy fan. Think whatever you want about it.

[sand cliff]

But the stuff she does do has more narrative importance than Fox is the point I'm trying to make.

They could go from planet to planet any other way, Rosalina's presence is what the entire plot revolves around, and she ultimately helps resolve the conflict.

She definitely could still have been used A LOT better, just saying she's more important than Fox

[upper yarrow]

Thats the problem, she had to do more than just the damsel in distress, soecially in a movie called mario GALAXY

And the fact a character that first appeared in mario galaxy has less spoken lines than the guest character from another nintendo ip DOES stings

[sand cliff]

Yeah that's ultimately fair, but I only started talking here to argue about the specific point regarding Fox, not how she was used in general.

I'm very pedantic in that way

I have no real horse in this race, I have no strong opinions on how Rosalina was used because I have no strong opinions on Rosalina

[tacit copper]

fox is an objectively bigger spotlight than rosalina in the movie due to the sheer fact that it's fox

[upper yarrow]

I see more people outaide talking about how cool star fox is

Compared to rosalina

Tho tbf most mario characters in this movie had a nothingburger plot

Outside of peach and maybe bowser, everyone else was just.... There

[sand cliff]

To be fair that's because Star Fox is just kind of awesome.

[upper yarrow]

It is but again, this WAS a mrio galaxy movie at the end of the day

Im thankful this boosted star fox popularity but it still stings

[sand cliff]

Animals in cool spaceships shooting down enemy ships and shit, that's sick.

[hearty root]

Yeah that's my biggest issue with this movie

The fact that they barely did anything with Rosalina and was more concerned with shoving in as many references as they can

[lunar thunder]

I think there was another statement like this earlier. Besides, the date is kinda obvious even with no statement.

[cedar notch]

I've heard some people try to say that it's fine that rosalina didn't have much screentime as she didn't do much in galaxy
but uh nah

[covert prawn]

It's fine???

It's called Mario Galaxy, not Super Mario Bros. 2 😭

[hearty root]

Or Mario & StarFox

[urban relic]

feel like people overemphasize on Fox's role in the movie

[hearty root]

I mean Fox piloted Rosalina's observatory

[covert prawn]

Tbh, I hardly give a shit about how much appearances Fox has, it just sucks that he has more screentime over Rosalina

[urban relic]

Replacing Fox with any other character won't give Rosalina her screentime back

[hearty root]

I'm hoping the next movie will

🙏

[urban relic]

there's a chance the next movie wouldn't even have her

[hearty root]

If that's the case I'm not watching

[urban relic]

ok then don't watch

[hearty root]

Part of why I'm complaining so much is because I feel like I got ripped off

When I saw the whole movie

[covert prawn]

Nah bro, I understand

The movie is fine but even I wish it actually lives up to its title

Like bro, I watched the movie for Galaxy elements 😭

Peach, Bowser, and Bowser Jr. barely saved the movie for me 😭

[upper yarrow]

i'm honestly shocked how little mario and luigi contributed to everythign around

despite being the main characters

and i didnt noticed this before but now i did

but yoshi felt so.... off???

he had a high smug aura and it felt weird??

did his stay in brooklyn affected his development?

[upper yarrow]

that's the problem yes, rosalina's own role was too small

it's an issue deeply rooted in the movie's script

[covert prawn]

Like I'm pretty sure you could just incorporate Fox and Rosalina together anyway

Just made Rosalina stay for longer and probably make her a damsel-in-distress in the climax or just never make her one in the first place

[hearty root]

Exactly

[sand cliff]

Honestly I think they just wrote themselves into a corner with her

They introduce her by having her almost take down a giant mech singlehandedly, only failing when it attacked the Lumas, which distracted her

You can't have a character like that just be around, so she had to be written out.

Of course, the obvious answer is to just not make her that powerful, but a lot of people genuinely believe she IS that powerful, so it might upset people too

A lose-lose situation

[covert prawn]

A satisfying way to have her be in the movie is if she were to assist Mario in his journey because Bowser Jr. would be hyped up to be a threat that Mario himself can't stop so perhaps Rosalina will share her power or give him tips on stopping Bowser Jr.

[sand cliff]

But then they would run the risk of effectively just making it "The Rosalina Movie" instead of the Super Mario Galaxy Movie.

[covert prawn]

Meh tbf, there are so many deuteragonists that actually works and are well-received

Usually when the protagonist can't stop the villain themselves, the deuteragonist or secondary character is always around, those type of characters are usually well-received because while the deuteragonist helps the protagonist, the protagonist plays the most active role even if the deuteragonist is argued to have more influence

[tacit heron]

Tbf Yoshi has like no personality

So him becoming this funny little shit is welcomed to me

It’s not even like a “he isn’t very expressive or loud” like Peach he legit has like none

Besides the fact he likes to eat

[upper yarrow]

i'd argue was more of the cute fella who can be a little mischievious

my sister who's a writer pointed me out that yoshi felt off for acting too smug when the character was never like it, and even if it was because yoshi's first surrounding after hatching were brooklyn's streets it still felt a little too uncanny

she gave an example "it's like if kirby suddenly started talking like a rapper, takes you out of the experience"