#Return to Dream Land Deluxe

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pearl fjord
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7

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The same as the previous games

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In Star Allies they did both a menu skip and a map skip

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Where Divine Terminus is the last level of the last world

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But there's a black hole behind divine terminus afterwards that lead's directly to void

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But you can also select Kirby Star Allies from the world select menu

ripe mulch
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They do force you to grab one sphere in the first level. It won't scroll the screen past until you do.

So maybe the Lor just needs one

pearl fjord
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true!

wispy crypt
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Imagine if you could hack through it

flat hinge
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kirby where tf is that one (1) energy sphere I asked you for

ivory knot
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Do we know what the gem apple is? Or why it's magic?

pearl fjord
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It's a magic gem in the shape of an apple
I think that's self explanatory just as much as anything else having magic is???

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Like no one asks what magic points are and why they have magic

valid locust
hushed pine
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let's fix that

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wtf are magic points

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they look like crystals of some kind

ivory knot
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The master crown was looking for it

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And so was Magolor

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To get his powers back

wispy crypt
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Crystal orbs

ivory knot
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It's very plot relevant

thin kindle
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Probably cause it's unstable or something lmao

pearl fjord
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What does it being plot relevant have to do with explaining what it is

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It's just a thing with a lot of energy in AD there's no other given explanation

thin kindle
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Shit I emoji reacted instead of replying again

thin kindle
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((Probably))

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They look like apple seeds

pearl fjord
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Oh that's an interesting idea

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I was thinking they were teardrop shaped but seed shaped might make sense too

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Teardrop for the meta theme of like
Raindrops down my face or whatever that track was called

thin kindle
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Magolor consuming so many apple seeds... So full

sturdy ore
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He gets cyanide poisoning

plucky monolith
thin kindle
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Makes sense since the big slices restore new abilities while the seeds let him boost the ones he already has

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Meta points are meta knight eggs

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Source: nothing

plucky monolith
ivory knot
wicked wolf
plucky monolith
pearl fjord
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Magolor when he gets more magic from bosses by being Crafty?????

plucky monolith
wicked wolf
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TBH

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The skill tree

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would actually be fucking awesome for a Meta Knightmare mode

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Would make sense cause he always trains to be stronger LOL

pearl fjord
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Meta Knight when he asks for a skill tree and has to fight Mistilteinn

wicked wolf
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LOL

odd rampart
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the game requires you 1 power sphere so i guess thats enough

thin kindle
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Maybe it's some shit to do with Meta Knight being a bat lmao

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Ol Dracula ass sucking the life out of his enemies

ivory knot
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I think In meta Knight's case it's just a game mechanic

plucky monolith
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I mean, same could be said for Magolor's then really

thin kindle
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Apple seeds 😡

midnight heart
thin kindle
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Yeah

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I'm inputting the idea that they're seeds into everyone's mind subliminally

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So they stop calling that big ass apple a seed it's an apple apples are not seeds it's a big apple

midnight heart
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I'll admit apple seeds are kinda tear drop shaped.. most of the magic points are inside orbs though

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The low level ones anyway

thin kindle
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That's what makes them magic

plucky monolith
midnight heart
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Yeah that's what came to my mind the first time "seeds" were mentioned

void blaze
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Sapling (thank you minecraft for teaching me this word)

thin kindle
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I think I looked at the Kirby fandom wiki for too long

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Since for some reason the page for the big ass apple is called Gem Apple Seed lmfao

plucky monolith
midnight heart
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(excuse the poor image)
Yeah THIS might be what a "gem apple seed" would look like. Problem is this thing is huge

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Like it's teardrop shaped and crystalline instead of glowy

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Idk how to describe the normal one looks like

void blaze
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well they would be hard to see if they were size accurate hehe

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(idk why i said hehe)

midnight heart
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True.. I meant they seem bigger than the other magic points though

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They're about the size of Magolor himself

void blaze
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ohhh i forgot about the beeg ones

plucky monolith
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the real question is why are they in an Orb (moreso if they were supposed to be seeds)

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midnight heart
pearl fjord
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Funny Gem Apple Sprout

midnight heart
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The orbs also look like what would be the shell

thin kindle
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Magolor should have eaten it

midnight heart
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All the magic points have two layers

void blaze
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hmm maybe they sit inside an orb to make them more visually obvious for gameplay purposes (which is why the big one isn't inside it). but idk

midnight heart
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The orb ones are the low rank ones I'm pretty sure

thin kindle
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Yummy magical seeds

midnight heart
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To differentiate them could still be possible

plucky monolith
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I mean the まりょくオーブ (Magic Orb)
not the stand alone ones

midnight heart
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Ohh, well..

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About the same reason the gem apple is in the room of Eden imo

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I like the idea those things were specifically meant to gather magic

plucky monolith
midnight heart
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Too unguarded for carrying gem apple seeds

plucky monolith
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the bosses had it

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and we don't know where they got them from

midnight heart
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The first apple teleports you to the room and it automatically flew to the altar (I do not think Magolor sent it there seeing how curiously his eyes followed it)

plucky monolith
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still, we don't know where they originally came from

midnight heart
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It just kinda comes out of him no animation

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And the apple lights the braziers, is it sentient?

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Plus the whole "Eden" thing..

thin kindle
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Magical apple

plucky monolith
midnight heart
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Stuff didn't actually specify the forbidden fruit was an apple though the phrase "Adam's apple" may imply it

midnight heart
plucky monolith
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Fruit Fragments at least
what we were talking about lol

thin kindle
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To me that wouldn't make much sense since it seems implied that apple was or at least grew from the massive tree that the crown took over in Halcandras past

midnight heart
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its probably true the fruit pieces were scattered/taken
I would say that theyre scattered on purpose as a test for people to complete, perhaps by the altar itself

midnight heart
plucky monolith
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nothing implied that tree even existed

void blaze
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wait like the master crown tree? yeah i thought the sapling came from him too

midnight heart
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anyway im not sure what point you were trying to make earlier but "room of eden" and a "gem apple" as the big doohickey.. like.. there's no way they aren't related.

midnight heart
thin kindle
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I feel like the crown showing presumably the past using the tree implies a tree existed for it to take over

midnight heart
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I think amp is implying the apple we initially collect was reborn or something

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in some kind of time loop.

plucky monolith
odd rampart
midnight heart
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oohhhh.... CAME there.. like originated there..

odd rampart
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fruits are good and delicious because hte seeds are supopsed to eat the fruit

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but we eat the fruit and remove the seeds

midnight heart
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yeah i think the ancients probably took it and built the room of eden around it or something, wouldnt be too far fetched

thin kindle
plucky monolith
midnight heart
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that's kinda the crown's final stand too

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and anyway...
-possesses tree
-immediately sets everything on fire

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if the fire held some power even as an illusion I guess the Master Crown actually did that, lol

ivory knot
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The fruit, master crown, energy spheres and Magolor's power warped space and time

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And the fight between Magolor and Mistilteinn brought about the apocalypse on Halcandra

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Wich is another reason for Magolor's regret and redemption

midnight heart
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tree should've aimed some of it's fire and meteor attacks at Magolor smh

ivory knot
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Bro wasn't giving it his all

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Would've been cool to see Galacta Knight flying around the background just for more lore fuckery

void blaze
thin kindle
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how the hell did Landia manage to get the crown back from that tree

midnight heart
void blaze
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fire beats grass Duh!!

ivory knot
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I'm guessing I'm right, OR

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The crown brought about the end of Halcandra before that fight and it's just making that illusion for more dramatic effect

midnight heart
ivory knot
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But the crown wasn't actually on the tree

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It was probably on another being

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Or whatever

midnight heart
ivory knot
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The tree is probably the remains of a parallel Whispy, like the other bosses but more fucked up

midnight heart
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wait, what kind of explosion did the crown make when it fell? in the true arena

ivory knot
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Huh? Haven't gotten there yet

midnight heart
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just a bunch of leaves, or was there fire? any onlookers know?

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there's a lot of red smoke.. eh.. cant think anything from that

ivory knot
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Yeah I guess there wasn't time travel

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Just mind fuckery

midnight heart
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imagine the past actually did come back to bite it, in the form of fire to add salt to the wounds

void blaze
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i wonder if the master crown tree has any sort of association with whispy. Maybe whispy knows him and is like "Yeah that's that douche from my 5th period english class in high school"

ivory knot
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Also

midnight heart
# midnight heart see, without the time travel, it's a lot easier to digest this

but anyway, so. Magolor cuts the tree in half. I forget what actually happens, but im assuming it explodes.. not sure what state the crown is in. Since it's kinda whole when it possesses the tree, maybe it's repaired.. and then, since Halcandra, Landia's home, is already in Another Dimension, which is arrround where the room of eden is..

ivory knot
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In the tree crown fight, when it fires a laser that explodes into fire

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You get fucking shellshocked

void blaze
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ohh it's the same thing galacta and hrd3 do

ivory knot
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Magolor's ears start ringing and the music goes quiet for a second

void blaze
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oh wait whaat that's weird

midnight heart
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yeah its the same tinnitus effect

ivory knot
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It's so cool

void blaze
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and kinda star dream lol

ivory knot
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I didn't expect that at all

void blaze
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guess they're all Old so it makes sense

ivory knot
grave pebble
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i like the new abilities but it is just me or do they feel a little misplaced

void blaze
ivory knot
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The whole heart fight is

midnight heart
ivory knot
grave pebble
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i get they probably wanted you to get to use the new ones often but like. theyre very frequent and a lot of the time it feels like places they don't belong

void blaze
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oh yeah they definitely oversaturated 'em so ppl replaying the game can use them frequently

ivory knot
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But they're pretty alright in terms of placement, I think they're cool

midnight heart
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like mecha on some random beach

ivory knot
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Bro was relaxing under the sun leave him alone

grave pebble
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it's not like enough for me to play wii again over this but it's a little irritating im ngl

ivory knot
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BTW why didn't Meta Knight ring his crew and take out the halberd to get Magolor's shit back

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Bro could've done it in a couple hours

grave pebble
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ftr i'm more than ok with being able to solve puzzles in different ways now i think that's sick

grave pebble
ivory knot
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The gordo whip puzzle is so stupid

void blaze
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mfw you can now just roll through it (i think - i forget if roll goes the full distance if you do it off a ledge)

ivory knot
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You could damage boost through it, attack through it with any i-frames attack, dodge trough it, use the whip or the sand

void blaze
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i do like using i-frames lol

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or damage boosting

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Fun to do puzzles the wrong way

ivory knot
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Also whats the deal with down thrust attacks

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They have barely any I frames

ripe mulch
ivory knot
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They're wonky for bossfights

plucky monolith
void blaze
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the chad parasol having all the i-frames on its down b

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can you inhale 1ups in this game i forget

ivory knot
ivory knot
grave pebble
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i am def using sand for arena

ivory knot
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No wait

void blaze
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just be careful on any black hole attack since it will not keep you from being sucked

plucky monolith
ivory knot
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I like the out of shield attack

hidden dock
ripe mulch
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Yeah you can inhale 1ups, but I don't know if the one behind the gordos is bar enough away to be out of range or not

gritty lava
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There is at least one 1up you can inhale in an another dimension segment with those gray blocks you can only super inhale

void blaze
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super inhale would probably reach it

ripe mulch
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It's a better puzzle in the og because the dodge roll didn't exist yet, but yeah. It's more of a "teaching moment" puzzle anyway

gritty lava
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I feel like you can't inhale them normally but honestly I don't remember ever trying besides that one in ad so idk

void blaze
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lol yeah it just wants you to know that whip can do that. And now sand apparently

gritty lava
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You probably just can if you can inhale the ad one

plucky monolith
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there's lot of puzzles you can do with stuff other than the intended ability
even in the original

ripe mulch
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A short while later they give you items you can only get with a whip or sand grab

void blaze
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when all bomb puzzles can be solved by using a 2nd controller YaLikeJazz

plucky monolith
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don't even think you need that for them lol

ripe mulch
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It's a funny cheese though

void blaze
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i know that one in nutty noon can be done with no ability or multiplayer but it's incredibly tight

plucky monolith
ripe mulch
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The raisin ruins one is so fun to mess with

plucky monolith
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can do it with almost every ability (well, can even do it without an ability, but the timing is hard)

ivory knot
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Y'alls favorite ability?

plucky monolith
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Wing and Parasol

void blaze
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in this game? hmmm

ivory knot
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In general but sure

void blaze
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parasol and whip are ones i've enjoyed a lot. in general i'd probably say Jet

ivory knot
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For me it's probably sword and hammer, I'm a classic guy

void blaze
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oh water also feels awesome in this game. i love water...

ivory knot
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But all others are so cool and such good reworks

ripe mulch
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Water and Leaf are great.
Sand is really fun.
Cutter is my favorite "classic" ability

ivory knot
ivory knot
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Leaf is cool, it's kind of too slow for my taste

void blaze
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kirby finally getting another console game after 11 years AND getting a long-requested ability. Must have felt good

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(i do remember rtdl coming out but i didn't get to play it immediately bc i didn't have a wii then lol)

ripe mulch
void blaze
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oh i forgot leaf's air down b is actually rly good in arena lol

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kinda surprised me to hear

ripe mulch
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I just find it fun

void blaze
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oh for sure yeah. fun to go whee

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i wish neutral b were faster...

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but i guess it can't replace Actual Tornado now can it!

ivory knot
ripe mulch
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Most of my favorite abilities that end up suiting my "run fast and mash buttons" play. Leaf isn't top because a lot of the attacks slow you down, but down b in air and uppercut are perfect

ivory knot
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I do like leaf when playing alone and slowly

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But in co op it's pretty meh

void blaze
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my favorite abilities always need like Some Decent i-frames to utilize - but i like when they're gimmicky too lol. makes me love jet for that reason. And parasol to a lesser extent

ripe mulch
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Oh yeah, I love me some gimmick abilities too

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RtDL doesn't have much gimmick, but I'm really fond of spider and circus

void blaze
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Circus too!!! really wonky ability but it's cool

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that REMINDS me again i need to replay star allies lol

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maybe tonight

ivory knot
ripe mulch
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For a while I was practicing a no hit circus run against the ending of TDX. The ability has a great rhythm to it

ivory knot
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Spider was so underutilized

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Makes sense since there were so many abilities but still, would've been nice to see it more

ripe mulch
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I like using spider to zip through levels and avoid everything lol

void blaze
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spider would be so fun in a 3d game... each ability in FL has some sorta specific puzzle solving niche, and this would be really easy to accomplish with spider since there's all sorts of puzzles you can design based on wrapping up enemies and launching them

ripe mulch
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Spider is a fun combo of like ice and high jump

void blaze
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oh yeah i can totally see that

terse gazelle
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Honestly to me spider has always been a forgettable ability. But in 3D I bet it would be cool if it had some sort of glue based puzzles or climbing

void blaze
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oh yeah for sure - there's a lot of new stuff they could do with it

ivory knot
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Wish spider was more focused on web swinging rather than trampolines

ripe mulch
ivory knot
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Lmao

pearl fjord
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Super Inhale probably just straight up has more range than whip tbh

ripe mulch
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Not really a surprise. I'd just never thought about it before

pearl fjord
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Like a lot more I'd bet

void blaze
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hooray for inhale lol

valid locust
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incredible

ripe mulch
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Only one way to find out. Assuming I can find batteries for my wiimote lol

ivory knot
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I will be forever angry they didn't give Dedede an inhale move like Kirby

ripe mulch
earnest sphinx
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kek

terse gazelle
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I just realized deluxe added a new way to solve that puzzle

pearl fjord
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Dodging through

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Very funny

terse gazelle
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In deluxe they added the slant so you could just dash attack through it and make it back

pearl fjord
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Oh huh

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True

valid locust
terse gazelle
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This puzzle is so simple yet has probably the most ways to solve it

nocturne elk
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Do you need to get all the eggs to win on level 3 egg catcher

earnest sphinx
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Oh wait, yeah I think it's only marked as "won" if you do a perfect

nocturne elk
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How

valid locust
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if you needed them all the 28 eggs mission wouldn't make sense

earnest sphinx
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I could've sworn I did a game where I played it til the end and it wasn't marked as won

plucky monolith
nocturne elk
valid locust
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honestly no clue lol

ripe mulch
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You probably have to catch one but not explode

fiery veldt
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Dang, le Tree Crown without a Ruler is a long track

dense iron
ripe mulch
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Ok but I did find it fun 😅

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Egg Catcher is one of those games that's so short that it doesn't feel an imposition to go "ok just one more try"

Probably more frustrating if it's the last mission you need or something though

fiery veldt
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Also you can cheese some of the true extra missions with Co-Op, provided that you have the controllers needed.

mint ruin
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My list of abilities I cleared the true arena with:

Hammer
Spark
Bomb
No Ability
Cutter
Sword
Spear
Needle

formal totem
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No parasol? CrynaBlade

random pine
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no hi-jump?

torpid reef
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No mirror?

royal gulch
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No service?

delicate dew
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finished up the main campaign

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sand is going to get nerfed

void blaze
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if it even comes back YaLikeJazz

delicate dew
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just need to gather the last of the energy spheres i missed

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are lor challenge stages required for story mode 100%?

void blaze
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they are but you only need to complete them

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(technically bronze but the min score is 100 points so you're guaranteed to get it lol)

delicate dew
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new colourful buttons to press MagolorBehold

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ripe mulch
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Sand is so fun. I do hope it comes back even just once in a while

heavy vigil
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tbh since they're fun abilities and are the most recent they definitely have a chance to come back

delicate dew
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i love mecha too

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the giant laser is pretty satisfying

heavy vigil
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Gundam + Metal General = Mecha

delicate dew
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the mask is called betrayal magolor thefear

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heavy vigil
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yes

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traitor

delicate dew
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oh yeah

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forgot that's what it's called in english

regal pulsar
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mfw we still dont have a name for crowned mago

heavy vigil
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don't worry

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we instead have Crowned Doomer

regal pulsar
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real

heavy vigil
formal totem
formal totem
serene creek
nocturne elk
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Could there be a possibility that they add online to aleast Magoland

solar nest
ripe mulch
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I still say they're testing with spin offs and stuff first before fully committing with a mainline

terse gazelle
ripe mulch
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It's not super op or anything, but it's got a nice distance to it and can go through walls, so it's still a pretty cool attack

dense iron
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And if they don't nerf them....UNNERF HAMMER RAAAAH

ripe mulch
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I expect it to be nerfed some lol But that's ok. I don't like it because of strength. I just enjoy the way the moves flow into each other. It's satisfying to run through levels with.

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That it also happens to be a speedrunning favorite is just a lucky accident

nocturne elk
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Also MPS I am now a member of the scope shot fanclub

ripe mulch
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Scope Shot is genuinely fun. I'm awful at it, but it's fun

nocturne elk
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Like I feel they could’ve made it work

solar nest
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me when i dont have friends (scope shot will be boring)

ripe mulch
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Maybe they'll take more about their decision making process later. But honestly, I just get the impression they wanted a couple new games and then one returning one from each mainline, dream friend style. And for the og RtDL, they chose to bring back the directly competitive one.

But yeah I think it could have worked if they had chosen to

nocturne elk
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Is it bad that I’m using some souvenirs on the true arena

dense iron
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no not really

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as long as you go back and do it without them

void blaze
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however you can enjoy the game is what's important

ripe mulch
void blaze
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a run with say Hammer and souvenirs is probably more valid than one with sand and no souvenirs like mine lol

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(but it doesn't matter either way!)

ripe mulch
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My run, when I finally finish it, will be water and no souvenirs
But I'm glad the option is there if I decide I want it

void blaze
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oooh water sounds fun

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rainbow rain is good enough to make it Easier but not broken

ripe mulch
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Yeah, my main strategy is rainbowing people to death rainbowbless

Though the basic water spit is great on ground based enemies

void blaze
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oh for sure yeah! the infinite range is awesome

dense iron
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Rainbow rain used to be so good

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I mean it still is but it's not as good

fiery veldt
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PAINbow curse

dense iron
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They removed the ability to jump with it????

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For some reason???

honest yarrow
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it takes longer to hold down in the original tho

dense iron
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Yeah but......you could jump with jt

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It makes challenge stages such a pain

void blaze
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a down-up move with i-frames is too good to be used in midair ( Pretends Mecha doesn't exist)

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I'm sad they nerfed that... tho at least it's still really good

dense iron
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I feel like

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They nerfed them

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Just to make mecha and sand look "better" in comparison

void blaze
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the water nerf was in SA right? but I do see your point lol they wanna gas up the new ones

dense iron
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Why should I use this old weak ass ability when I can use the NEW BETTER STRONGER ABILITY

honest yarrow
dense iron
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Its been a thing since SA yeah

void blaze
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with the new abilities it's like - what if we made an ability with better guarding than leaf AND better damage than hammer

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they truly made it too cracked

dense iron
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Hammer TECHNICALLY does more with full charge (but the difference is barely anything)

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But it doesn't MATTER because it takes like 5 seconds

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but with SAND it takes only 2-3

void blaze
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oh yeah I mean like dps damage

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golem fist is just nutty and I also recently found out it isn't actually called golem fist and I've gaslit myself based off the name of a terraria item

fiery veldt
void blaze
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I don't see the golem fist in that photo 🧐

fiery veldt
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Even still its funni

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Don't worry I do have golem fist

mint ruin
fiery veldt
mint ruin
fiery veldt
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Oh god-

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(Man true arena will be painful-)_

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Ping me the final time when done with both Arena and True Arena

mint ruin
void blaze
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I would like to do hi jump arena tbh lol

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tricky to use but fun! and I get i-frames which I always Need

mint ruin
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I could try high jump arena as a warm up

mint ruin
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May take a while

void blaze
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I think you would also enjoy fire tbh

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it has that burning dash so it isn't ridiculously hard to use but it's also gonna be tricky just bc fire is weird lol

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I imagine the inferno attack (where you burn yourself) ought to be useful in specific scenarios though

honest yarrow
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fire inferno has startup i-frames

void blaze
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oh I did not know that

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would be tricky to time it in a useful way but could be done

honest yarrow
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Burn - Searing Burn can stay midair infinitely
situational trick

void blaze
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how long do i-frames last on that. like around which parts are you gonna be vulnerable

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I assume after doing the sear but before burning again

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seems like the frames would last a good while tho

wispy crypt
fiery veldt
hexed jasper
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I love “dreamland gang” as much as the next guy, but honestly can we get more mainline games with multiplayer Kirby?

dense iron
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Agreed

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Multiplayer Kirby = more chaos

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Cause everyone can use the gimmick

void blaze
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YEAH I LOVE multiplayer kirbies

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like it's so fun getting to both choose abilities

hot lotus
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as long as they keep the star allies revive system so everyone can be on equal ground with p1, rtdldx not having that was grrrrr…..

dense iron
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Yeah that was dumb

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It sucks that we always have to worry about P1 all the time

hot lotus
dense iron
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Thats unfair

dense iron
limpid harbor
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actually its singular friend

dense iron
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Friend (derogatory)

limpid harbor
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😈 😈

void blaze
#

at least bwd powers up when kirby has an evo

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but it's still sad you can't upgrade his movekit or anything lol

hot lotus
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no ability run cool

limpid harbor
#

we live in the worst timeline bandee didnt get elfilis spear

void blaze
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FR

hushed pine
#

At least his dash attack still splits up into three

random pine
mint notch
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How about bandee gets an actual significant story role instead of being Kirby’s number 2

exotic geode
sturdy ore
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Legit Bandee boss fight when

limpid harbor
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he got a little characterization which was cool but i hope all 4 of them are used well in the next game

sturdy ore
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4 player co-op next game

exotic geode
pearl fjord
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Every day, I'm haunted by Pop Happiness

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dense iron
hidden dock
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i love pop happiness

terse gazelle
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warm sun
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BASED

limpid harbor
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peak achieved

burnt perch
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Fr

flat hinge
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you have the epic

terse gazelle
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terse gazelle
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random pine
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same

exotic geode
brazen laurel
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I mean. No

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You have to beat enemies to pass some levels

feral gulch
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well duh obviously.

wispy crypt
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Every stage has an enemy ambush

feral gulch
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the youtuber needs to make money somehow

wispy crypt
feral gulch
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exactly

sacred mango
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I consider it's a good joke to tell on easter

flat hinge
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ha

sacred mango
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was it funny

hidden dock
wispy crypt
terse gazelle
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sturdy ore
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Reasons

terse gazelle
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void blaze
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it's just an arbitrary design choice to make the game feel like the original

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guess they didn't have anything else to put down there lol

plucky monolith
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I mean, more ability testing stuff would have been nice

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with the different blocks and all

royal gulch
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Felt like a last second decision tbh

void blaze
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should have given us a Spray Paint Chamber SMH!!!

ripe mulch
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I would have liked maybe if the new minigames unique to this remake were in the basement, and the returning ones were just in Magoland

hexed jasper
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busy day, sorry for ping lmao

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I wonder how well this game is doing sales wise? It’s obvs not as crazy as FL or anything, but I’m curious…

honest yarrow
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currently about 357k physical copies in Japan

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assume physical:digital ratio is 1:1, Japan:overseas ratio is 1:4

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that would be over 3 million already

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official sales number should be revealed in the next earning release

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for comparison, Star Allies worldwide sales was 3.98m as of 2021/12

inner jetty
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i'd imagine it must have risen above 4 million by now

hexed jasper
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That would be insane honestly

somber cape
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that game had the best multiplayer and it was weird for them to not bring it over

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its gonna be pretty difficult to play the true arena with others so that everyone can actually have fun

inner jetty
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technically its the TKCD revive system VoidNerdina

somber cape
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erm i'm pretty sure they're different bc in that game it got harder and harder to revive after consecutive deaths

plucky monolith
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isn't that the case with Star Allies too? or am I misremembering

somber cape
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it definitely doesn't feel like it

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i could be wrong though

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i play smex with random people relatively often and they obviously die a lot but i never noticed it getting longer

royal gulch
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I personally feel like the changes to the abilities and the overall mechanic of doing damage in this remake is...
Not that great

plucky monolith
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what do you mean they changed the mechanic of doing damage?
also for the most part the changes were fine, only Beam and Hammer were really nerfed at all

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idk why they did stuff to Beam lol (assuming it was intentional)

royal gulch
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I have complained a couple of times how some abilities would have their moves lose invincibility frames to the point that it makes them redundant to perform against bosses

plucky monolith
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I have not seen anything not have invincibility that had invincibility in the original

royal gulch
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Still in the mindset that all the changes that Star Allies brought to abilities would carry over to the remake

plucky monolith
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they did not bring over much ability stuff from there

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more of it was from 3DS games

royal gulch
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Seriously, spear's Moondrop was a usable move in Star Allies thanks to how it makes you invincible the whole time...
But to have it lose invincibility frames makes it an undesirable move

plucky monolith
inner jetty
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i mean does BWD's version have invincibility

royal gulch
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no

plucky monolith
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either way, it is not like remakes usually add moves to stuff anyway (especially from other games)

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else, NiDL and SSU would be quite different games lol

royal gulch
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But my bigger issue is how the damage system works about the same as the original compared to how future installments handled it.

In triple deluxe and onwards, every hit is counted. Beam is super satisfying to use because of that.

But here? When a boss gets hit, there's a short period of time where they won't take any extra damage

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This can be a problem in multiplayer, because if there are two players attacking the same boss, only the first to hit would actually have their damage register.

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I could be fully charging up my hammer flip, but because the other player was a bit faster in hitting the boss first, my flip would do NO damage thanks to the boss' brief invincibility

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What bothers me is that this "Boss Invis-frame" time isn't consistent.

So beam's neutral attack only does one hit
Spear's spammy throw attack only has every Odd-Numbered Spear actually do damage
Yet Parasol's down ground attack can do like 5-6 hits at once?

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My biggest issue about this damage system is that Sword's Sky Energy Sword is pretty much pointless.
Either the overhead slash hits first, or the weaker projectile hits first... You can't have both at the same time.

somber cape
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i was worried they would remove it

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i can't lie they feel like they really need it

inner jetty
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if they removed it they would need to adjust all the boss health values to compensate

blissful path
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Wow, Sand absolutely shreds Magolor.

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Anything that flies, really. Just get under it and spam up b.

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Hammer doesn't feel quite as OP as it is in most games

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More like star allies hammer

rugged slate
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Hammer is only the best in super star ultra and i think tdx?

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Oh, and fl

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In rtdl it's ninja, in robobot it's ice, in sa it's bluster bomb

pearl fjord
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Is Ninja actually faster than Hammer in RtDL?

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And I’m pretty sure Ice is second to Hammer in PR

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Yea ok ninja is second in rtdl but doesn’t really come close

rugged slate
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I'm pretty sure ninja recently beat hammer

brazen laurel
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Bluster bomb??
I assume this is ignoring dream friends

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Also yeah no way hammer isnt best in robobot too

pearl fjord
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Bluster Bomb is way faster than any Dream Friend

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Also I thought I remembered ooinu saying that his Ice run was only faster than his Hammer run because he did the shooting parts faster

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But I can't find where he said that

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Hm well his hammer run desc does say that his star dream phases weren't done well

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I dunno

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Yea ok I just manually calculated the times

rugged slate
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Bomb spam destroys every boss in seconds

pearl fjord
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672.64- (180.24-155.97) - (588.79-289.97) = 350.55 = 5:50.55 for Ice
674.32 - (180.67-156.40) - (587.37-288.42) = 351.10 = 5:51.10 for Hammer
So yea his ice run is faster even without the shooter segments

pearl fjord
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With boost it's Twin Drill

rugged slate
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Nice

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Drill is one of my favorites

hushed mica
jolly stream
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Mr. Frosty and Bonkers’ phone numbers

inner jetty
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doxxed

jolly stream
lethal sand
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Kirby should be

exotic geode
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Kirby should'ev been 0.0

lethal sand
limber vessel
exotic geode
mint token
silk frost
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I surprised myself today by nohitting landia, metal general, and a miniboss rush in an arena run with bandee

regal pulsar
blissful path
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For normal play I think hammer is the best in all modern Kirby except SA and idk avout RTDLD yet

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Marx, magolor, mage sisters best in SA

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No one can legitimately say PR ice, bluster bomb, or twin drill are the best abilities, they just have ultra fast exploit strats

exotic geode
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Toy Hammer I heard is pretty good as well

blissful path
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Toy hammer is probably the strongest Kirby ability ever

void blaze
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highest dps in rtdldx to my knowledge, yet better safety than even leaf

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it's just the best of both worlds

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toy hammer is also amazing and easiest to speedrun with but can be sort of tricky if you're having trouble approaching the enemy. like if you don't kill phantom forgo phase 2 before he starts jumping around then it becomes a real slog

blissful path
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Is Sand the consensus SS ability in RTDLD?

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It feels OK against ground bosses and OP against air bosses

random pine
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yeah

void blaze
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I thiiink so - it has the fastest time on true arena rn while simultaneously being the easiest to use (imo) if you're recommending it to someone who wants to get through TA easily

random pine
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its the best one

blissful path
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It is so stupid good against magolors that it makes sense, it's probably not the fastest against some bosses but it evens out and yeah it's great at all levels of play

random pine
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sandcastle go brrr

void blaze
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usually, the fist shockwave is the best dps for grounded foes while the sand burst tornado is the best for flying

blissful path
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Agree

random pine
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pretty much yeah

blissful path
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The fist smash is sort of like hammer in itself

void blaze
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and sand castles are used even in speedruns for bosses to bump into when they're off screen

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yeah it's kinda like old hammer flip lol

ripe mulch
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I love that sand is just a great all rounder. You've got strong moves like the fist which are really great for skilled players, but also you have an invincible guard and a lingering "trap" move with the sandcastle which are great for more novice players

blissful path
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It's beast

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I haven't even learned its whole moveset yet

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Is Hammer still as good as usual but sand is just new and better, or is hammer nerfed also

void blaze
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hammer flip is sadly doodoo in this game but giant swing is still good. speedruns just use dedede though since his super jump is busted lol

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so it was nerfed but it's still Good

ripe mulch
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Yeah, hammer flip here works like it does in Star Allies where you have to charge it, making it a lot harder to use

blissful path
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Yeah it feels like SA hammer which is pretty outclassed

void blaze
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it's funny that in both the kirby series and smash games, hammer being updated to have a charge just made it worse. the badness of the updated hammer flip crossed into two different series

true heath
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it evolved from "hammer is busted" to "dedede is busted" which is the timeline im a-ok with

mortal coral
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Never liked hammer

blissful path
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The charge probably was an intentional nerf

mortal coral
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Was boring to play

true heath
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but i think they should've done some sort of compromise like in FL

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where it still takes time to charge but it can be decreased if you enter bullet time mode

limpid harbor
mortal coral
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The charge attack in smash is bad?

true heath
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the only time true arena felt unfair to me is robobot and its for reasons completely unrelated to copy ability

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because star dream soul os doesnt require any until the very end anyways dededepain

limpid harbor
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or stone

blissful path
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Forgotten land hammer felt wonderful even in base form

limpid harbor
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i called it rock im a fake fan

mortal coral
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I never beat triple deluxes TA

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Robobots was easier for me

limpid harbor
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i hear the TDX one was really hard but i dont remember playing it

true heath
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it's still pretty powerful ability otherwise

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it just requires skill and learning

ripe mulch
true heath
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but people don't want that YaLikeJazz

blissful path
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It feels like it does a little less damage all around than SSU era

true heath
#

well its not that it does less damage

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its moreso in SSU era bosses health bars are paper thin

blissful path
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Maybe it's just that you don't use hammer flip as much

exotic geode
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Dedede taught Kirby Hammer, right?

true heath
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like in SSU bosses have pathetically little health if you have the right ability

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makes star allies blush

exotic geode
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Of course the mentor is great.

void blaze
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it just kinda stinks they nerfed hammer and then made the easy hiding ability even stronger in dps when hammer wasn't great defensively to begin with. Like I know it's bc it's the new ability and they gotta gas it up but good golly

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I mean hammer's i-frames are pretty useful but like you get what I mean it's no leaf

ripe mulch
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I imagine that if Sand comes back, it'll be tweaked. Maybe not a ton, but I expect it'll be a bit less op lol

void blaze
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Lol yeah prob

blissful path
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Oh yeah sand has invincible guard too, holy damn

true heath
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i mean is really leaf good for anything except for hiding and up b

ripe mulch
void blaze
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well that's the thing - sand does both of leaf and hammer's strong points Better lol

blissful path
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Is sand more unbalanced than hammer was at its peak?!

void blaze
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like again I get it's the new ability but jesus they didn't go overboard with mecha lmao

ripe mulch
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I like leaf overall, but I wish it's basic attacks were a bit better

honest yarrow
true heath
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fair enough

flat hinge
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sand is just a powerhouse lol

true heath
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it is a very good move

honest yarrow
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most basic attacks are around 16 power

void blaze
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leaf down b is also really good right

flat hinge
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one of the most broken abilities for sure

exotic geode
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How much damage does HI Jump do?

ripe mulch
true heath
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honestly i dont care that sand specifically is that overpowered. its not like game notes whether or not you use it specifically or not

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it doesnt track it in the slightest

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its up to your personal choice

void blaze
true heath
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its easy way out for people who struggle with arenas

honest yarrow
exotic geode
flat hinge
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honestly enough time has passed

true heath
#

stone is boring

void blaze
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oh yeah i'm fine with sand being good. it's just moreso a bummer that hammer got nerfed meaning it seems they want to balance abilities but then they'll just go off the wall with others

flat hinge
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mecha ain’t even that good

ripe mulch
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Yeah, I think having some moves be really broken is probably a net positive

true heath
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mecha has raw presentation and its all that matters

honest yarrow
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leaf uppercut = hi-jump
balance

flat hinge
blissful path
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Mecha also seems best against aerials with the fireballs

true heath
#

if sand is "easy mode" ability

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hammer is "this ability is great but you gotta get good with it"

blissful path
exotic geode
#

How many I-Frames does Hi-Jump Have?

true heath
#

now its especially that now that its crutchs been nerfed

blissful path
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Great at every level but you won't first try true arena with it

void blaze
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hammer def has always been designed as "risk and reward" but here the reward is not greater than what you'd get from sand

true heath
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yeah but thats the point of self imposed challenge lol

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and theres little to no risk with sand

void blaze
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granted im okay with a kirby game not having hammer as Speedrun Optimal for the 40 billionth time lol. but it feels weird

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hammer's supposed to be one of the Really Strong ones and you feel like there Is a reason to use it. hamemr flip just feels meh now

ripe mulch
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I think it's nice that the "kinda weird on paper" ability is the one that's optimal this time

exotic geode
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Just thinking, what if I use Hi-Jump as a copy ability for arena?

true heath
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pretty sure its not even true for most modern games. i think only triple deluxe has hammer as its optimal speedrun strategy

void blaze
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i think on SRC hammer is used for prb as well

true heath
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i know that in star allies its bluster bomb

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in fl its upgraded twin drill

void blaze
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and i wanna say hammer was used in original rtdl but i don't remember exactly

exotic geode
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Like, I accidentally switch to Hi-Jump for the Landia Fight, and I demolish him with Hi Jump

true heath
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i heard that tornado was arena killer in og rtdl

exotic geode
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just how viable is Hi Jump? hmm...

void blaze
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probably for casual play but i doubt for speedruns. but now i'll check and see

blissful path
true heath
#

makes sense

void blaze
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yeah same thing with twin drill lol

ripe mulch
void blaze
#

ok yeah it seems it was hammer for og rtdl

true heath
#

personally replaying arenas in rtdl dx as dedede many times just makes me hope that if 3ds games get remade they will add option of playing through those arenas as dedede/meta knight respectively because i genuinely don't see why not

exotic geode
flat hinge
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hi jump is a situational ability

void blaze
exotic geode
#

but then again, Landia does seem like the perfect enemy to beat with Hi Jump

flat hinge
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it’s great in some places but it’s stinky everywhere else

blissful path
#

Is Dedede 2nd best behind sand in RTDLD?

void blaze
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i wanna say yes but let me check

ripe mulch
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Yeah, Landia strikes me as one that's gonna go down fast to hi jump. Aerial enemies are in a bad position

honest yarrow
void blaze
#

ohh i forgot about meta knight

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the silly counter

blissful path
#

Meta is better than ddd?

void blaze
#

dedede is up there for sure though

limpid harbor
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When Sand and Mecha were announced I thought I’d prefer mecha but damn sand is awesome

void blaze
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yeah mk's counter does absurd damage and shuttle loop is useful too

true heath
flat hinge
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pretty sure everyone was expecting mecha to be way more interesting than sand

void blaze
ripe mulch
#

I was more interested in Sand, but mostly just because it looked like the "weird" one of the two and those are always more interesting to me

void blaze
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i get the like. Narrative Effect of kirby having to forcibly pull elfilis's soul out but c'mon!

void blaze
exotic geode
#

Mecha or Jet?

void blaze
#

i prefer jet! i recently decided it's my favorite kirby ability in general lol

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it's just fun

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(And Good)

true heath
#

make it an animation

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there's very little point of it being a qte

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its not difficult

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literally never failed it

void blaze
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yeah once chaos elfilis reaches that sliver of health, the orb just sorta magically pulls itself out

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I imagined kirby like standing on the sidelines and only intervening to do this one QTE but that would look a little silly lmao

ripe mulch
true heath
#

but i guess the main reason why this wasnt the option i think is that bandee was VERY likely be a huge afterthought

flat hinge
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oh man I used to hate jet

void blaze
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i see speedruns where they like end the qte basically as soon as the spear starts aiming to hit kirby and im like Wtf how

true heath
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like theres leftovers of player 2 just being yellow kirby which probably mean bwd wasn't their first thought as a multiplayer character

void blaze
flat hinge
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robobot made me realize that it’s a force to be reckoned with if you master it

ripe mulch
#

The "wiggle the stick" qte stuff is way easier if you just rotate the stick.

true heath
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i think robobot just made it good

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in super star its kinda bad

void blaze
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mainly was utilizing that silly star grab

flat hinge
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true!

void blaze
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robobot's jet actually fucked me over once in a really funny way

flat hinge
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grab star

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hit enemy with it

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Death

true heath
#

honestly though if bandee was this much of an afterthought its still impressive to me how much personality they managed to add into his animations during mouthful mode sequences and such

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HAL making the best even out of last minute decisions lol

void blaze
#

reached star dream's inner phase for the first time. Got to the red ring phase at a sliver of health. Knew about the red rings ignoring i-frames.
i jumped to avoid the last wave of them and tried to hover - but hover went way faster than i expected lmao

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the second time i got here i just discarded the ability before the rings. Sorry Jet i'm not risking it

void blaze
flat hinge
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the rings caught me so off guard the first time I got there

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Flabbergasted!!!

void blaze
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would love to witness a clip of someone seeing them and thinking "ok i'm just gonna use stone - WHAT"

flat hinge
#

me

void blaze
#

Guess Star Dream really rocked you huh!

scarlet sierra
#

"Heartless Tears"
The tears are those ill fated true arena runs

regal pulsar
#

Crocodile tears

random pine
#

dont cry on a computer

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that will hurt it

solar nest
void blaze
#

there was no precedent prior to this attack for any attack being able to pierce through stone - except for like black holes which yeah cuz they move you

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but something simple like a red wave? i don't blame ppl for getting hit by it lol

teal bramble
#

hellos quick questions about magolandadadadaedahjfkgrbt

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can you change your switch's internal clock to bypass the samurai kirby 100 thin

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*thing

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so you can still get your scores recorded on the same day

flat hinge
#

is it for mission purposes?

void blaze
#

if you're concerned about magoland missions, you can do that game as many times as you need so don't worry about the daily thing
(otherwise idk)

flat hinge
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If so there’s no need you can do it as many times as you want

teal bramble
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no its not for missions, im just trying to get a #1 score recorded for personal satisfaction lol

flat hinge
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It just won’t count as your daily score

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oh lol

teal bramble
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it doesnt really matter i was just wondering

flat hinge
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then probably not

teal bramble
#

:(((((( oh well

solar nest
#

wheel for next kirby game

void blaze
#

They really had fun editing this lmao

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they just gave water galboros garchomp's cry wtf

solar nest
#

water garchomp

void blaze
#

amazing

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regal pulsar
#

wow this video is like a plethora of japanese memes

solar nest
#

euh

void blaze
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lmao ikr. A lot of them I do not get

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Except the one that said "donkey kong" i know that name

solar nest
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the japanese are funny

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(idk)

void blaze
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my gut tells me there's probably jojo references in here since the soundbytes sound similar to the vibe i've heard in jojo clips. But i only know za warudo so i rly don't know lmao

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wow the smash ult kill screen edit was so smooth

regal pulsar
#

Mah gaw

image.png
void blaze
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lmao they didn't wanna miss a single hit

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dedication

solar nest
hushed mica
#

plenty of jp TA videos present damage numbers

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regal pulsar
#

really cool tbh

void blaze
#

oh yeah i've seen em before! tho the fact they have it pop up every time the hit plays out in-game rather than laying them out beforehand is impressive

honest yarrow
#

louis is still working on the PR Spark TA TAS

regal pulsar
#

ooh

honest yarrow
#

testrun

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imagine the full video with damage display

rugged slate
stark bane
#

How come player 1 can play different characters in the arenas, but not in Magoland? It makes me sad

sturdy ore
#

Probably because you can go in and out of the main mode and Magoland

ripe mulch
#

It would be nice if you could pick characters when actually playing the games though, even if you're still Kirby on the warp star or whatever

But yeah it makes sense

somber cape
#

how on earth do you dodge the rampaging doomers black hole attack as kirby

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i just hold block and pray i literally don't understand how you can get away

honest yarrow
#

most abilities should be able to defeat them during the black hole

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just attack them

inner jetty
#

i'm pretty sure they just expect you to dodge through the doomers

pearl fjord
#

I don’t remember the black hole being hard to dodge what do they do

honest yarrow
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they set 6 spinning explosive clouds around the black hole

random pine
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i just use the upwards sand tornado

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and shred the rest of their health

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lmao

solar nest
honest yarrow
solar nest
honest yarrow
#

again if you play aggressively you should be able to defeat them during this already

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btw I just figured out they get 0.5 guard multiplier during the black hole

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but you can hit all four if the move allows

solar nest
#

its easy to attack them during the black hole

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they're super vulnerable when they're setting it up or whatever the term is

honest yarrow
#

0.7 when all four are on the screen (including the background glide)
0.5 during the black hole
1.0 for the rest

solar nest
#

as someone who is the dumbass of all time what does this mean

somber cape
#

i hate infinite block!!

solar nest
#

except for whispy's succ and mag's black hole

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i think

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woops

void blaze
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i forgot whispy's suck omg

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and he's like the first boss. How Could I

jolly stream
#

S U C C

ripe mulch
void blaze
#

(i don't know for sure but i'm Assuming lmao)

robust yoke
honest yarrow
void blaze
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ahh i didn't realize that video showed that

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i saw those purple numbers but didn't register what they meant lol

honest yarrow
#

the left 0.75 is the combo multiplier

void blaze
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oh what's a combo multiplier? like when you attack too fast after your first attack?

honest yarrow
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ya if it's within 24 frames in RtDL

void blaze
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ahh makes sense

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is there ever a frame window where it gets completely nullified because i remember seeing an entire balloon bomb do 0 damage

honest yarrow
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boss i-frames are determined by the move power

void blaze
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in this instance i think they threw a kunai before the bomb hit

honest yarrow
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35F if power≥35
27F if power≥25
19F if power≥20
15F if power≥11
11F if power≥6
7F if power≥1

void blaze
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ahh so they have complete invincibility in those situations? or just resistance

honest yarrow
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complete invincibility

void blaze
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ahh gotcha

honest yarrow
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one reason why Magolor Soul isn't that hard among the soul bosses is that he doesn't have any guard multiplier

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honest yarrow
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he still takes full damage during Miracle Beam (even though in other soul bosses' case they might have increased defense here)

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what rtdl bosses have a silly guard multiplier

honest yarrow
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Goriath and Hydriath
they have very high defense when breaking the floor

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makes sense

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they are infact

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monke

honest yarrow
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and again, TA Magolor Soul originally has 2000 base HP but is multiplied by 0.75 due to the TA code
in the end TA Magolor Soul has 1500 (600+900)

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for comparison, Astral Birth Void has 2000 HP and a dynamic guard multiplier (1/0.75/0.5/0.25)

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HAL wants you to listen to the medley

hushed mica
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too bad the 8-bit part is too far back in the song where most people wont realistically hear it in-game

robust yoke
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...similar to how kirby get more defense when kirby has low hp? :o

honest yarrow
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yeah

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the only annoying part of Magolor is his teleport location
left/right is 50/50

hushed mica
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prob why i see most ppl try to stay at the center and attack at the 2nd and 3rd teleport

honest yarrow
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yeah it depends on the ability

blissful path
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The new magolor soul got a lot of hype at the start but I really don't see how I'm going to struggle with it. Aerial bosses get owned in this game.

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So far I think this remake's even easier than the original

pearl fjord
robust yoke
honest yarrow
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og Magolor Soul gets 999 HP when HAL thought that's like "maxed"

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same for Sectonia Soul part 1

pearl fjord
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Soul of Sectonia and Magolor Soul having 999 HP was so cool

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Counter stopped!!!

honest yarrow
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then dx Magolor Soul in Extra gets 1200 instead lol

pearl fjord
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About right for SA era health ig

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God I can’t wait for Basil Editing to become a thing so I can give arena Magolor Soul like 3333HP

random pine
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(it is good practice)

robust yoke
pearl fjord
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Probably

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I’m just gonna give them all unreasonable amounts of hp though

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robust yoke
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i never thought of that but that makes it even better

random pine
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pyribbit 100k hp

honest yarrow
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that's just SKC Pyribbit

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all whispy woods variants 2 mil hp

random pine
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dont remind me

solar nest
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mag soul 200k hp specifically in TA so i can enjoy my suffering and also the music

grave pebble
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got the true extra achievement in tome trackers

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yoooo epic

grave pebble
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that was bs there's no skill involved in that 😭

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be lucky or else

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is the true extra achievements just the extra 20 missions or am i missing something here?

grave pebble
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yeah that's it

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oh ok

grave pebble
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tome trackers' was to score 20+ on level 3

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im fairly certain you dont need to complete the extra missions for 100%

grave pebble
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you do in your heart

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grave pebble
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i got 19 like three times 😭

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lmao

grave pebble
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im almost done with these

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crackity hack was the easiest one for me

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because i kept grinding it for the tickets lmao

grave pebble
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yeah that one's fair you just gotta learn the timing

random pine
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i think i've gotten 999 multiple times already

random pine
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i believe in you

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grave pebble
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samurai kirby ive gotten #1 on but i think that one's bs too

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it's not a challenge it's an accessibility issue

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you can't get better at this you can either do it or you can't

random pine
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its just you going against 99 other scores

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its not real time

grave pebble
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yeah ik

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samurai kirby in general tho it what im criticizing for this

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there r many people who just aren't going to be physically capable of beating it

solar nest
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i think samurai kirby was fairly easy for me but i didnt have fast reaction time for some matches

random pine
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yeah i aint gettin #1, most ive gotten is 5 or 4

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you gotta do it before the thing shows up

grave pebble
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it's easy for me too and i somehow did get #1

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random pine
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me when the epilogue confirms that microtransactions are canon to kirby

grave pebble
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havent played epilogue yet but i know the ending

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not sure i like that the microtransaction game is canon over the obama one

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so basically in magolor epilogue you fight haltmann, sectonia, and nova as the first three bosses

grave pebble
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i dont wanna know EVERYTHING about it

solar nest
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dont worry that was a joke

grave pebble
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thought so but just in case :p

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you also face mario

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as a mini boss

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along with zelda (the guy with the green elf hat) and donkey kong

robust yoke
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i mean... you technically fought with DK in rtdl when you think about it 🤔

solar nest
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me omw to draw gk not accurately again

random pine
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gk. gonkey kong

grave pebble
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got the hitless run for booming blasters

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that one was also a little absurd but not luck-based at least

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now i gotta do the "three enemies with one shot" one

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got it

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just the all 1st places on tour now

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i an currently redrawing a gk drawing

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auuuu

grave pebble
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i think my favorite subgame is checkerboard chase

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bc it's about developing a strategy more than anything

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i was able to observe what the AI was doing then it clicked i could push their strats further

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(^ rpg player)

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my favorite is crackity hack because of how easy it is to grind it

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(^ someone with no skill)

grave pebble
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fair

solar nest
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fair indeed

grave pebble
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ive got 3 wins on tour and the last game is smash ride

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wish me luck lol

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i lost </3

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lmao L (i would not be able to do 3 wins on tour)

grave pebble
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started another tour. the first game was tome trackers. i won but with 19 points.

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also when you play the epilogue, try your best to upgrade dash b a lot

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(its really fucking good)

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but you can choose whatever you want to upgrade i'm jus giving a funny recommendation

grave pebble
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egg catcher my detested

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also i appreciate it but like figuring things out myself

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alright

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its probably because im bad

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but i dont care i already knew that

grave pebble
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im gamer

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i hate that you dont get an option to quit between games during a tour

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you need to start the next one and wait for it to load before you can

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i got the perfect lineup but messed up the timing on crackity hack. it's so over

solar nest
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i've only ever played tour once because magoland is my misery

grave pebble
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what the fuck i just got a perfect egg catcher run

solar nest
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no fucking way

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what

grave pebble
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im cracked

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I FUCKED UP CRACKITY HACK AGAIN

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i think the bluetooth lag is screwing me i was playing handheld yesterday and was way better at this </3

solar nest
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lmao

grave pebble
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I LOST ON BOOMING BLASTERS

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I LITERALLY JUST HAD TO PLAY THIS ONE PERFECTLY?

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two cpus aggro'd me immediately </333

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the cpu: leepertroll

grave pebble
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just did a perfect game of ninja dojo. all bullseyes

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second time ive done this

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one more. this time it's checkerboard chase

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i should have this

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NO..

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joewari da..

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what

grave pebble
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it's joever

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I DID IT

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that was grueling. i am never entering magoland again.

heavy rune
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Hello

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Id just like to say something (ase a joke)

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Return to dreamland deluxe should totaly be called Kirby Returns to Return to Dreamland

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XD

regal pulsar
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true

odd rampart
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untrue

grave pebble
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they should call it kirby: video game

shadow steppe
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Holy shit I jump back to this game after a month of not playing it and this is what happens

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