#Return to Dream Land Deluxe

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jolly stream
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Dark Meta Knight survived both AM and DDDT, so Marx could survive just fine.

sturdy ore
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I don’t remember Marx falling to the groubd

jolly stream
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The only people who truly die in Kirby are Sectonia and Haltmann, no one else :)

sturdy ore
novel solar
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Well, not just that. It could be that the parts that came off during the initial explosion (before Nova succumbed to light), couldn't be reapplied due to sustained damage and such

sturdy ore
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Also Marx didn’t do anything in base fight he just got chucked into Nova lol

novel solar
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^

sturdy ore
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He definitely wasn’t ok afterwards since y’know he was pale and motionless

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Sure he found a way out

jolly stream
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Yeah, but he got better.

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He's just simply built different.

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And by that, I mean similarly to everyone else.

midnight heart
jolly stream
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Round.

sturdy ore
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Me who headcanons that Magolor saved him

midnight heart
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I'd think Meta Knight would've noticed Marx's body in Knightmare Ultra, but maybe he thought he was dead and didn't bother with it

thin kindle
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Discord mobile just decides to not let me turn it off sometimes

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Now I was able to do it. How strange!!!! Thanks discord!!!!

wicked wolf
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Well actually

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I like to think Marx Soul fight happens before Meta Knightmare Ultra

midnight heart
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same

wicked wolf
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Reason being that I think the reason Nova isn't 100% fixed is cause Marx absorbed those pieces

midnight heart
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literally same brain

terse gazelle
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Oh My Fucking God

jolly stream
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I still think that those Nova pieces would've just been scraps until Meta Knight rebuilds him, and Marx absorbs them as he's rebuilding, since they've just gotten power back.

exotic geode
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Isn't MK Ultra where Meta Knight rebuilt his own ship and destroy it for training?

jolly stream
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Yep!

terse gazelle
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So It Turns Out That The ONE (1) Thing Sand's Block Can't Defend Against Is Magolor's Black Hole

exotic geode
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lol

wicked wolf
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to "discipline himself"

terse gazelle
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And Guess What?

jolly stream
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It's his ship, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.

terse gazelle
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That's Also A Copy-Deleting Move

midnight heart
novel solar
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Poor Meta-Knights, their ship destroyed twice

terse gazelle
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And Now I Can't Even Get Sand Back Because I Have To Dodge Projectiles While Waiting For The Random Copy Essence To Give Me Sand

jolly stream
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Drifting in space for a while, and all that.

terse gazelle
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Okay

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I Beat Him

midnight heart
terse gazelle
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With Only A Sliver Of Health And Two Regular Tomatoes

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I Don't Even Have Any Healing Souvenirs Because Of Extra Mode

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There We Go

midnight heart
terse gazelle
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I Have Sand Back Now

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Now How The Hell Am I Gonna Beat Galacta, Master Crown AND Magolor Soul With Half Health?

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I Don't Even Know Galacta's Attacks

open magnet
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I just finished extra mode 100%

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Still need to do the epilogue and the true arena

jolly stream
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Oh, and here's a good comparison for Nova between MWW and MKU.

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Definitely smaller

limpid harbor
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bro got some head injuries

terse gazelle
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WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THE MASTER CROWN JUMPSCARE DOES DAMAGE???

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IT LITERALLY JUST MOVES FURTHER INTO THE GROUND AND I DIED

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I DODGED IT WHEN IT LANDED

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I SHOULD BE FINE

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BUT NO I WAS KILLED BY A BRANCH

midnight heart
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it moves the rocks

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shockwave

terse gazelle
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My Entire Run Was Ruined Because For Some Reason, The Most RANDOM Things Can Make You Lose Your Copy Ability

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The Fact That Ability-Dropping Is A Mechanic In The First Place Is Genuinely Shitty

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I'm Already Taking Damage, Do You REALLY Have To Force The Copy Ability Out Of Me?

jolly stream
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If you think it's bad here, you haven't played Adventure Or NIDL yet leepertrollleepertroll

terse gazelle
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And Sometimes The Ability Star Just Breaks Instantly

honest yarrow
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tips: Sand's hide totally negates the jumpscare

terse gazelle
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Seriously, I Think That's The ONLY Thing That Isn't Like Lava Than Can Hurt You While Hiding

honest yarrow
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yeah Black Hole is the only attack that ignores Leaf and Sand's Hide

terse gazelle
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It's SPECIFICALLY Magolor's

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The Sphere Doomer Ones Do Nothing

honest yarrow
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I know

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Sphere Doomers' are called Mini Black Hole officially and they do no damage at all

terse gazelle
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Wait Really?

honest yarrow
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it's just dragging Kirby

terse gazelle
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Like They're Just A Mild Annoyance?

jolly stream
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No, I think they do damage if you jump into them.

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But they don't pull you into them

terse gazelle
jolly stream
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They just pull you in their general direction.

terse gazelle
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I'm Even More Pissed Now Holy Shit

honest yarrow
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in my first TA run I have one max tomato left before that tree

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so try to take less damage

sturdy ore
honest yarrow
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I said in another channel before
TA challenge is more about damage & recovery management

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(my first TA run was also using Sand btw)

sturdy ore
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I used mecha

mortal perch
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I’ve talked with my friends who played this game, and I’m apparently the only one who thinks mecha and sand are garbage (I mostly like to play ultra hyper-aggressively and do the absolute largest amount of damage in as small a timeframe as possible)

honest yarrow
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RtDL is not the game for that playstyle due to the boss i-frame thing

mortal perch
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I learned that when I tried to hit bosses with the spark energy shield right before firing it and doing basically 0 damage

limber vessel
mortal perch
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And that is why I absolutely love forgotten land for letting you beat up the bosses to your heart’s content

midnight heart
mortal perch
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Especially when you can 4 shot chelfelis

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Toy hammer is the most weapon in all of Kirby balancing

honest yarrow
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RtDL ability overall DPS is still better than TD due to the combo rate difference

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if HAL decides to remake TD I can imagine the game being even harder

hushed mica
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finally, pyribbit deluxe ex that spends a minute in the bg at phase 2

mortal perch
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Has there ever been an ability as busted as toy hammer in KatFL? afaik there’s archer in td and 3 mage sisters in star allies, and that’s about it

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Well, refrigerator in crystal shards

honest yarrow
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Magolor in SA

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Magolor shares the tier 0 of SA abilities/characters with the Mage Sisters

mortal perch
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Yeah that’s fair

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Sword spam go brrrr

honest yarrow
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Doctor in PR too I would say

mortal perch
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I forget what doctor does except funny chemistry set and clipboard

honest yarrow
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Pharmacy (aerial Dash+hold B) does a lot of damage even for a ranged ability

mortal perch
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Spark in rtd and rtdx, too

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Well, maybe not

honest yarrow
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but Pharmacy requires no charge

mortal perch
# mortal perch Spark in rtd and rtdx, too

It does a lot of dps compared to other abilities in the same game, but not to the heights of toy hammer literally 5 shorting the literal tankiest boss in the entire game

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Would spark be considered in the absolutely busted tier, at least in rtdx?

honest yarrow
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no

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Spark is only broken in TAS

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human just can't charge that fast

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it's still safe to play tho as long as your hands are not tired

mortal perch
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How fast does tas charge spark?

honest yarrow
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in RtDL (Deluxe) TAS only needs 22 frames to reach max charge

mortal perch
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I can get off a shot every ~.5 seconds or so, so it’s pretty good dps

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Uh-

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Just gotta shave off another 8 frames, haha…

honest yarrow
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when you feel it's 0.5 second it's probably way longer, just saying

mortal perch
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Yeah

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It was

honest yarrow
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I have a turbo controller
I tested it with Spark, still not as fast as TAS level charging

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from what I saw, Spark's current time for Deluxe's TA is around 17-18 min

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from a dedicated Spark speedrunner in past titles

mortal perch
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I have not done ta yet

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But I want to

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Extra mode is just really, really boring

honest yarrow
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I understand that from the view of a player who played the original

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I cleard Extra before ME so I could end the boring part earlier

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still the increased difficulty caused more deaths than I expected due to less recovery

mortal perch
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All of my deaths are from the fucking boot and bottomless pits

dense iron
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Its best to get the boring stuff out of the way first before doing the fun stuff

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I appreciated ME so much more by playing extra mode before it

mortal perch
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I just learned that you can access the souvenir storage mid level

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why did I only learn about this during the boss level of world 6 in the extra mode

serene creek
earnest sphinx
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Poor MK looks exhausted lmao

candid bolt
mortal perch
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imo KatFL does combat the best out of the entire Kirby series

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Or at least is in like the top 3

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Out of the ones I’ve played, it’s #1 by far

candid bolt
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yes absolutely

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i still love the rtdl and ksa boss fights but it's just way harder to tank hits or last very long

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like i used an army of barrier spamming magolors for ksa ultimate choice today and i STILL lost to void in the final phase of the final round🄲

mortal perch
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Solution: 3 mage sisters, spam up-down+b

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Or it might’ve been down-up+b

candid bolt
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see i would but i can't even finish heroes in another dimension🤔

mortal perch
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Skill issue

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Which parts you struggling on?

candid bolt
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honestly yeah lmao

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just the final battle

mortal perch
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3 mage sisters part?

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That id consider one of the hardest bosses in the game

candid bolt
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OH YOU MEANT HEROES NOT ULTIMATE CHOICE LOL

earnest sphinx
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i prefer magolor down+up+b magiggle

candid bolt
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i'm still on world 2 of that🤔

mortal perch
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Skill issue

candid bolt
earnest sphinx
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beeg fuckin sword.

mortal perch
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Sword

candid bolt
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oh right

mortal perch
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I frames too, right?

earnest sphinx
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Ooh yes.

candid bolt
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ooh good to know, i'm still figuring out the lil moveset differences between ksa and magolor epilogue tbh

earnest sphinx
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Tears bosses a new one too

mortal perch
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Yeah, the strat for both is just down-up+b

candid bolt
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since i beat epilogue before even getting ksa

earnest sphinx
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I mean he does have the sword in Epilogue too
Just at the literal last minute of it KirbySit

candid bolt
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lol true

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the quick time event and literally nothing else lmao

mortal perch
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Should’ve been at least one of the ultimates, as an option after beating it

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Like down+x or something

candid bolt
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oh huh

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i'll have to look at epilogue again

mortal perch
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I just realized nearly every favorite moment in the entire series I’ve had has been a final boss fight

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Exceptions being goku/piss monkey and that one solid falling platform in world 4

midnight heart
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ā–¶ Play video
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it's not a speedrun but dont know any other 4 player rtdlx true arena runs

hardy prairie
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okay sand is surprisingly OP

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i underappreciated it before but i managed to beat the arena easily with it

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magolor and magolor sould didn't stand a chance to sand dio

quaint crown
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sucks that the night sky isn't something you get from 100% completion

mortal perch
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I must be god awful at using sand if it’s rated so highly

tawdry stream
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sand is great for damage in general

somber cape
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why does electricky dooter randomly just pull out a sword

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the attack doesn't even work you can hold still and it just phases through you 😭

regal pulsar
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he cant see :(

warm sun
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At least the attack is cool lol

quaint crown
warm sun
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Although I never fought him that long for him to use it on me

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Yeah

warm sun
frail jackal
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electricky dooter is probably my favorite elemental boss tbh

warm sun
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I can’t get over how sick the Elemental Gang’s designs are

frail jackal
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he;s so cool..

regal pulsar
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i love hydriaths design its genuinely cool and the addition fangs hepl too

warm sun
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Instant transmission moment

regal pulsar
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too lazy to fetch a pic so

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genuinely cool deisgn

warm sun
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If we get a 3rd set of EX bosses for the 3ds remakes can we get goofy ahhhhhh designs like this

regal pulsar
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HAL just never misses with character design

midnight heart
warm sun
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It does, just not that much probably lol

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And it does look pretty easy to dodge anyway

limpid harbor
warm sun
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Cheeky guy

jolly stream
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Aka ice Pyribbit.

warm sun
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Vs. Cryribbit
Cryribbit rules the icy seas of this sky! Created from shivering cold water, this frozen frog can create snow storms whenever he wants! But he doesn’t want to fight now. If he doesn’t get that Mirror Shard to his boss, he’s gonna get quite the scolding…

limpid harbor
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Vs. Oily Rattler

limpid harbor
warm sun
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Oily Rattler is in charge of this sky. Born from the fiery hot volcano, this smoldering statue’s attacks can really things up! You better beat him, or that Mirror Shard is going to his boss…

jolly stream
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Rampaging Kracko Jrs

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Or something else for the first word, idk.

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The point is it’s multiple Kracko Jrs.

warm sun
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Crazy Krackos
These chaotic clones of Kracko are out of control, and that spells quadruple trouble! Their electric attacks are way more shocking than normal! Yikes! But I wonder…who’s the mysterious boss in charge of these guys?

limpid harbor
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perfect

warm sun
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Post SA Kirby games when we still don’t know the main antagonist’s name and the only thing we get is "boss"

plucky monolith
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basically boss/someone/master

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thanks Epilogue lol

somber cape
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it literally just goes through you

warm sun
limpid harbor
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computer viruses

limpid harbor
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this gif goes hard

hybrid zodiac
quaint crown
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Hydriath is a literal sea monkey MagolorBehold

wispy crypt
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Where is the Electricky Dooter and Hydriath sticker

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I just realized

regal pulsar
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never returned :(

limpid harbor
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they better bring it back or else im deleting this server

jolly stream
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I’m gonna serve up some Hydriath on the grill.

hardy prairie
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So i grinded epilogue for 3 hours and got all platinums including the secret level and upgraded all abilities to the max

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I was lowkey expecting a reward for it lol

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Maybe a blue or green magolor skin?

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Ah well, it was really fun anyway

somber cape
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am i going insane or do the bosses enter their second phase later than usual in the arena

mighty pendant
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Do the magoland missions count towards your slot’s progress

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Do i also need to unlock all the abilities in the epilogue to 100%

warped whale
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there should be a 100% list guide here

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#1077968255232254092 message

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holo pls

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bleh

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@mighty pendant

warped whale
mighty pendant
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Mecha is really op

uncut siren
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Live Galacta reaction

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What is the Puffer looking at

hybrid zodiac
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Me

terse gazelle
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Galacta knight apparently

dense iron
dense iron
solid estuary
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how come mr dooter and mr dooter ex have hair

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but electricky dooter is bald

warped whale
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for legal reasons i have to state im messing with u

odd rampart
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ask bayonetta

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(i dont actually know bayonetta, im pretty sure having hair is required)

regal pulsar
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yeah

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her outfit's also her hair

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so now you know why she becomes naked

burnt perch
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Wasn't worth it

terse gazelle
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Anyone Else Find It Weird That The Bosses Don't Have Splash Screens?

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Like Yeah They Weren't In The Original, But They Could've Added Them In

regal pulsar
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umm

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i dont think any of us thought that

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i mean it owuld be a ncie addition but not really a necessary one

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after all it has only been in star allies and forgotten land so far, they'd probably prefer to keep it to the later games

warm sun
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I’m surprised they didn’t add them in honesty

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Would’ve been cool since some of them had subtitles in the description but eh oh well

limpid harbor
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Wish we got splash screens

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Next game better have them

scarlet sierra
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Maybe it would've disrupted the flow of the music

zenith vortex
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It’s so true

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No ability hits different

odd rampart
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i mean ya but i like playing video game with the moveset it gives me

dense iron
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no ability runners when they actually have to pay attention to the boss instead of mindlessly spamming their strongest move:

odd rampart
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me when i dont mindlessly spam any move

regal pulsar
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all the more reason for a monster hunter kirby game- ill shut up

mortal perch
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finally done with playing the same game a second time extra mode

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extra mode is simply not fun

dense iron
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Eh

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it's fine

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Playing it back to back isn't fun but u can always play ME to break the pace

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I would personally get the boring stuff out of the way first tho

ripe mulch
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Yeah, I think the only real problem with extra mode is us attempting to grind out 100% everything ASAP.

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Like, if it was just "ok, it's been a month, I kinda wanna play RtDL again. Maybe I'll do extra mode instead of regular" it wouldn't be that bad

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But instead we're all doing it all in like a weekend

midnight heart
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for some reason, I have RTDL and Triple Deluxe, yet I've finished RTDL's Extra mode like 5 times, which is more than I've ever finished Dededetour (zero times, never)

north drift
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at least dedede tour you get to destroy enemies with dedede

midnight heart
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i dont really get what it is about Dededetour that makes it so boring for me personally. Maybe its the fact the only thing you have to worry about is time, and the only speedtech is spamming the dash move with the same moveset throughout the game

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technically, finding secrets is also speed tech, since instead of collectibles or whatever you get those portals

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I think Dededetour is a hit or miss really, if you don't like Dedede's moveset in that game sucks to be you

north drift
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i mean i play the "speedrun" modes in the games without actually caring for speed

midnight heart
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me too, sometimes, but then time is still the only thing that matters

dense iron
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Dejavu

midnight heart
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like what else is there to do besides progress through the level? I feel like I must be missing something, cuz that's basically what you do with Kirby, except there's actual collectibles + movesets to explore?

dense iron
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I still need to beat Dededetour in like

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Under an hour

midnight heart
ripe mulch
terse gazelle
warm sun
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The gift of prophecy

wicked wolf
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HAHHAHAA

honest yarrow
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funny Hammer Flip charging hitbox

mortal perch
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HOW MANY FUCKING BOSSES ARE THERE IN THE TRUE ARENA I ALREADY WENT THROUGH 9 HOW ARE THERE 12 MORE????

honest yarrow
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21

void blaze
mortal perch
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There’s lor, egg, and landia, wtf are the other 9

honest yarrow
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ME bosses

mortal perch
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Ah

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That makes much more sense

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Wait do I gotta fight the tree

honest yarrow
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yes

honest yarrow
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it just doesn't look like it hits visually

mortal perch
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Guess it’s time to break my arms
Spark my beloved and beloathed

silk frost
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Spark is cool but obliterates you regardless of which charge method you use

void blaze
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ohhhh the very start of the charge hit him way in front of the charge I see

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that's wonky

mortal perch
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I use motion controls

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Lets me just go ham when I get mad at clunky controls

silk frost
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Motion charges faster but obliterates your arms harder

mortal perch
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(I was spoiled on forgotten land’s controls)

void blaze
warm sun
void blaze
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(makes it TOO easy but it's nice for not breaking your arms)

void blaze
mortal perch
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I still struggle to imagine the dps of 22 frame charges

dense iron
honest yarrow
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actually Spark gets a change in deluxe

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Spark Barrier now activates at mid charge instead of max charge

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(technically speaking it activates at mid charge in the original too but the pause menu says max charge instead)

mortal perch
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Am I not allowed to bring the maxim tomato box into the last ~5 fights?

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Portal is too high, and I’m on 3 more fights

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For true arena

wispy crypt
honest yarrow
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so it's better to use the box first

mortal perch
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Sad

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Had to use it anyways, was at 15-20% hp already and burned the other healings in the safe room

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Time for phantom magalor soul ultra deluxe hyper EX prime

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Full hp + a souvenir maxim tomato

exotic geode
mortal perch
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i thought i couldnt access it during the arena and only at the beginning

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why are you back at full health

exotic geode
mortal perch
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SAND ULTRA ABILITY????

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MECH????

exotic geode
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Yes, he's got some neat tricks up his sleeve

honest yarrow
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I just realized recently that phase 2 health bar is always flashing

mortal perch
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TRIPLE BEAMM

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AAAAA

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STOP FLIPPING THE SCREEN

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DEAD

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THANK GOD

honest yarrow
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Monster Flame is the only attack that's not really buffed

mortal perch
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sword

honest yarrow
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because it activates much slower

mortal perch
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100% complete lets gooo

mortal perch
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the only solution to that is spot dodge

honest yarrow
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you can still guard

exotic geode
honest yarrow
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so I just checked the values
Monster Flame has a higher guard pass rate (0.8) than Miracle Beam (0.5)

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but Miracle Beam hits more times

mortal perch
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is there a kaizo version of mistilteinn?

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whats the best way to grind magoland souveniers?

silk frost
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Crackity hack is fast and easy

mortal perch
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which difficulty?

silk frost
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do they give different amounts of tickets?

mortal perch
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idk

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ill do hard for now

silk frost
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I haven't tested it

mortal perch
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actually, imma test it

silk frost
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If they do then hard is probably the best

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If not then ig it doesn't matter

mortal perch
# mortal perch actually, imma test it

Easy, 1st place, 999.99 distance gives 6 performance stamps
Normal, 1st place, 999.99 distance gives 7 performance stamps
Hard, 1st place, 999.99 distance gives 8 performance stamps

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ok yeah, tested with booming blasters, and it seems being in first gives 6 for easy, 7 for normal, and 8 for hard in every game mode

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all 5 beaten on hard for samurai kirby is 8 tickets

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tome trackers gives 8

honest yarrow
#

seems all games have the same reward table

mortal perch
#

yeah

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what about that one crystal shards one with insane mode tho

#

and the hyper mode too

#

intense gives 8

#

easy for checkerboard chase gives 6

#

high speed intense gives 8

#

ill just say any outliers from here

#

i apparently suck at bomb rally and cannot confirm whether its the same

silk frost
#

Just as the bomb is starting to pass you hit it

mortal perch
#

no i know

#

i have all 120 missions

#

i know how to play each game

#

its just been 2 weeks since i played any of them

#

kirby on the draw is 8

#

dunno how to do ninja dojo or egg catcher

#

as in what metric to base it on

#

smash ride is 8

wild frost
#

The ticking clock in Red Sands Remix (Area 2) gives me Castle Bleck vibes

royal gulch
#

This may be super late to say this but WOW you guys weren't kidding about playing Samurai Kirby in handheld mode

#

On docked mode I averaged around 19-21

#

But on handheld, with the Pro controller as close to the Switch as possible, I was able to get to 16!

mint ruin
mortal perch
#

I sucked so bad at samurai Kirby that I lowered meta’s reaction time to 21 lmao

hardy prairie
#

Try handheld mode? There's less input lag

mortal perch
#

No, i was just asleep at the wheel, I consistently get 16-17, idk how I got to 21

gritty estuary
#

Magolor the game

hybrid zodiac
#

šŸŽ®
šŸ½ļø
MagolorBehold

mortal perch
#

Am I the only one who wants to get magolor epilogue but with the other ā€œsidekicks/enemiesā€? Like taranza, Susie, uhhhh hyness/3 mage sisters, Marx, fecto forgo?

#

I mean there’s the star allies friend mode, but cmon, does that even count

exotic geode
#

Susie's a b*tch

random pine
#

rude

hybrid zodiac
#

On the fence of only if necessary

#

Do it too much and it gets stale

limpid harbor
#

remakes probably wont come out that often

#

they could give taranza and susie epilogues/prologues in the tdx and pr remakes and i wouldnt mind at all

hybrid zodiac
#

If they redid Adventure again I'd be down for a Dedede Prologue

inner jetty
#

i honestly don't really feel like a taranza side story is all that nessasary for triple deluxe

limpid harbor
#

thats fair but it'd be a fun inclusion

hybrid zodiac
#

Yeah I can't think of anything except how he found the mirror

limpid harbor
#

i feel like you could do more with a whole TDX sequel tbh lol

hybrid zodiac
#

Taranza Plant Growing Sim

limpid harbor
#

and they'd come up with something interesting anyway

ripe mulch
#

The main thing with the Magolor epilogue is that there was a bit of his story that needed explained (why isn't he dead, why are they friends now, wtf)

But yeah I'm not opposed to other side modes with other characters

sturdy ore
#

Taranza Epilogue and Susie Prologue

hybrid zodiac
#

Daroach Duration

hybrid zodiac
#

It's just Daroach going through Sqsq while Kirby's storys going on

limpid harbor
#

i feel like kumazaki would have good enough ideas to justify epilogues/prologues for them

mighty pendant
#

what da hell galacta knight doin in true arena dawg 😭

regal pulsar
#

who invited blud?? 😭 😭

limpid harbor
#

bro thinks he's part of the team fr

warm sun
#

The newly added Epilogue bosses and the upgraded Magolor Soul staring at the TA-exclusive Galacta Knight on the table

somber cape
#

holy cow dangerous dinner is NO JOKE in extra mode

limpid harbor
#

3 levels of hell

somber cape
#

i need more than 3 levels this is peak kirby

limpid harbor
hot lotus
#

im glad every shoe puzzle can now be solved with giant free spawnable at any time bomb souvenir

somber cape
#

i beat extra

#

am i just tripping or did they remove that insane screen background swirly thing the black hole did

honest yarrow
#

they did

somber cape
#

i would say this is the worst remake of all time if they didn't make crowned like 10x better

#

that cancelled it out i guess

#

literally heart breaking the black hole feels so weak now

hushed mica
#

there's a reason for that. You'll might learn why later on

#

at the very least, the AD portal entrance animation swirls the bg

somber cape
#

i just thought it was bc it would lag the switch or something

hot lotus
#

new voice for magolor

regal pulsar
#

TRUE

dense iron
#

Peak ā€¼ļø

pearl fjord
sturdy ore
sturdy ore
#

I should post my Hyness’s species is from Halcandra theory

hot lotus
#

||i feel like it's more noticeable in extra mode since all you have to do is hold a direction, so you end up focusing on the background more, while in the true arena you're constantly weaving left and right to avoid the black holes so it's not as apparent||

pale topaz
#

Hey chat, Any tips on how to beat Magolor bosses at gold or above?

wispy crypt
#

Level 9 Magolor Surge

left rock
robust yoke
terse gazelle
#

Why Are We Spoilering This? The Embargo Ended Like Two Weeks Ago

left rock
#

Because there was someone who wasn't at that point yet so the first person who responded with details did so in spoilers

robust yoke
#

just in case for someone can enter here while not beating post game stuffs yet :)

terse gazelle
#

...

#

Okay?

#

Yeah

#

Like I don’t have my switch open

#

Sooo….

robust yoke
#

aeon kirbyDoodle

terse gazelle
#

Heyo!

#

Who The Hell Is Centipede Cookie?

#

This is not right place to talk about lol

#

||ANYWAY, MAGOLOR have the sword to defeat the Master Crown— I though it was cool!||

terse gazelle
robust yoke
terse gazelle
#

||I mean the game is amazing and I wanna try it out if I have my switch all charge up.||

terse gazelle
#

HOW THE FUCK DID KEEBY GET 5 BULL'S-EYES IN A ROW?

#

I don’t even know

valid locust
#

ok, now that april fools madness is over, I will go back to translating the interview. I am almost done

random pine
#

good luck

warm sun
regal pulsar
#

Ready for murder

wispy crypt
#

Wtf

#

I've never seen this attack before

flat hinge
#

yeah this attack caught me so off guard the first time I saw him do it

livid tulip
#

Dooter's disembodied hand tries to disembody Magolor with his scimitar

atomic kindle
#

anyone got the portrait of dedede where hes like :) šŸ‘

torn quest
midnight heart
#

yknow its actually pretty weird that Magolor Soul in true arena gets sucked through a different portal than the one behind him

#

and that portal looks almost exactly like at least the end portal of epilogue

#

implication is the place you fight magolor is at least Not Quite the afterlife, which might seem pretty obvious

#

wait, it's the same portal in the beginning epilogue cutscene, isnt it?

scarlet sierra
#

No

#

In the flashback it's extra mode magolor

midnight heart
#

no i mean the one normal magolor goes through

#

while he's getting bleached

#

ok its more white..

pearl fjord
#

True Arena with souvenir items is so funny 😭

earnest sphinx
honest yarrow
#

explaination:
souvenir items are used in the first 10 battles

#

because they have no defense buff against items

#

but apparently ME bosses and Magolor Soul have defense buff against items

#

so those battles are mostly handled with Sand

#

multiplier for ME bosses and Magolor Soul
0.33: Mike, Crash, Festival
0.5: Cracker, Balloon Bomb

#

also it seems when Helper Magolor is active, it assumes you have died twice

#

so boss HP starts at 2 deaths values (0.9x)

pearl fjord
#

Pipe bomb through the mail to every boss

exotic geode
#

imagine dying to a boss

honest yarrow
#

HR-D3 in Extra when it's a back-to-back battle

#

quite common that new players die here

midnight heart
#

is there a way to tell the difference between arena and true arena at a glance? i know the title screen has that circle on it in JP

pearl fjord
#

There's no difference besides the trophy Kirby holds

#

Or wait is that not different either

honest yarrow
#

TA in deluxe has a much darker filter in the starting ability room

pearl fjord
#

Oh I thought we were talking about the results screen

midnight heart
#

yeah, or just in general

#

ofc in actual gameplay the bosses are ex versions

honest yarrow
#

TA rest areas in-between always have Sleep

fiery veldt
#

If only Sleep restored HP, maybe in a future Kirby game...

midnight heart
#

I wonder- can you mix in the true arena by discarding the abilities from the orbs?

honest yarrow
#

also TA in deluxe actually changes the title music

midnight heart
#

or maybe just in the actual fights

honest yarrow
#

now it's the Dangerous Dinner remix from KF2

#

no, discarded star cannot mix
discarded star gets priority when swallowed

pearl fjord
#

And obviously because of that it's no longer a filler gag in the rest area

pearl fjord
#

I know endgame bosses usually have buffs against screen clears but all the ME bosses, huh? Did the HiAD bosses in SA have that too or?

honest yarrow
#

no iirc

#

that's why the Mage Sister nuke is broken

pearl fjord
#

Oh yea funny sister circle

honest yarrow
#

they are still testing these multipliers in dx so it's still ongoing

inner jetty
honest yarrow
#

so I read the comments further

midnight heart
#

I only just realized he probably just used the mix souvenir for each room to get the screen wipes

I wonder what he used for the minibosses?

honest yarrow
#

they say Rampaging Doomers, Crowned Doomer, Master Crown and Magolor Soul specifically have resistances against nukes and items

#

they also have HP lock

honest yarrow
#

Sand for midbosses I assume

pearl fjord
midnight heart
#

"single-shot duplication ability" says google translate

honest yarrow
#

yeah not all of them

#

only the "last bosses"

pearl fjord
midnight heart
#

its really bad huh haha

pearl fjord
#

Yea but I mean what line of text are you translating

honest yarrow
#

äø€ē™ŗē³»čƒ½åŠ›?

midnight heart
#

2nd comment

odd rampart
#

Sans Warriors

honest yarrow
#

nvm you are talking the chinese tweets

pearl fjord
inner jetty
#

Sand Warriors

Darth Vader's biggest fear

pearl fjord
#

That says like One-Use Abilities basically right

honest yarrow
#

yes

#

still the most annoying part is preparing the items

midnight heart
#

i figured that's what it was

honest yarrow
#

hard difficulty 1st place gives 8 tickets

inner jetty
#

its probably either playing a bunch of Egg Catcher because that's a quick minigame or playing Checkerboard Chase because that's an easy subgame to cheese

#

Samurai Kirby 100 gives a lot of tickets as well i guess

midnight heart
#

is it something about moving in from the corners?

inner jetty
#

corners

honest yarrow
#

seems only Sand and Ninja can OTK HR-D3 phase 1 now

dense iron
#

I'm gonna 100% merry magoland on my 3rd save file

#

God im tired

#

The back of my switch cannot take it anymore lmao

#

Holy shit I did level 3 in egg catcher first try...30 eggs too

silk frost
#

How

dense iron
#

Muscle memory

jolly stream
#

Egg

silk frost
#

Egg catcher but magolor

earnest sphinx
royal gulch
#

Holy shit guys

#

Ok so you know Magoland serves masks right?

#

You know how in Dedede Drum Dash and its Deluxe version, everything takes place in an amusement park by Magolor?

#

What is your reward for beating these little games?

MASKS

#

I have nothing else to say it's just a thought

ripe mulch
#

Magolor is surprisingly consistent lol

dense iron
#

Taking a break for now

#

Too much kirby for me + I'm making mistakes that I would never make usually

limpid harbor
#

too much kirby disease

mint notch
#

TMK real

wispy crypt
#

Don't worry I already turned into a Kirby

#

(from the very start)

river river
#

how does amiibo works in KRtD deluxe? what i need to do to claim the amiibo reward

#

got my kirby collection amiibo as the first amiibo today and i wanted to test it out in the game but i have no idea how that work

random pine
#

press y in the pause menu

river river
#

ty

#

i've never noticed that button honestly

silk frost
#

ME's credits music is so good

inland wadi
#

they don't do very much in the game though

#

Kirby series amiibo give you some Point Stars, a random Ability Essence, and I think an energy drink too

#

Though I don't know what other amiibo do

somber cape
#

lol what

pearl fjord
#

Wait this is talking about the true arena fight???

#

They can make arena fights change on repeated deaths???

exotic geode
somber cape
#

i think it's just for extra

pearl fjord
#

Oh by phases they just mean him getting angry don't they

main jewel
#

losing to bosses has always resulted in a different outcome in previous games so it was worth investigating

somber cape
#

kirby games boss weakening mechanics my detested

exotic geode
#

also, it's for the kids

#

definitely

inland wadi
#

Love how you literally just said skill issue

#

I haven't done either Arena in RTDLDX yet

exotic geode
#

it's not a bad mechanic imo.

inland wadi
#

Another game I've played that uses a difficulty system like that is Paper Mario The Origami King

exotic geode
#

like, if you are complaining about the boss getting easier then maybe don't die to it like several time for the pity to kick in?

somber cape
#

i don't die to the bosses several times lol

exotic geode
#

then why you dislike Kirby boss weakening?

somber cape
#

it getting weaker if i die even once and the fact that it's even present in what's supposed to be a "hard" mode is just mildly annoying

random pine
#

kirby as a series is accessible to everyone, of all skill levels

exotic geode
#

It's just less hit.

#

unless you die to the same boss 9 times or so, then they reduce its hp by 50% or something

somber cape
#

im pretty sure the boss hp gets reduced to 75% if you die just TWICE

inland wadi
#

And this is under the idea that you're doing the entire true arena too right

#

or does this apply to Extra Game too

fiery veldt
inland wadi
#

ah

#

I haven't gotten that far yet

#

Still in level 2

exotic geode
#

you have to lose twice to be 75%

#

wait... nevermind

inland wadi
#

that's what she said though

#

lmao

exotic geode
#

my mind slip

#

Anyways

#

how you die to the same boss twice?

#

At some point it's more skill issues if anything

ripe mulch
#

Easily šŸ˜…

valid locust
#

I do in hard bosses

ripe mulch
#

100% a skill issue on my part, but I'm also not going to complain the game helping me out a little

exotic geode
#

ok, no mean to insult people

valid locust
#

I appreciate the HP mechanic a lot

silk frost
exotic geode
#

but most people play Kirby to relax

#

I think

river river
#

tbh deluxe is less difficult than original

inland wadi
#

I almost died on my first attempt against the final boss in my first playthrough, but only almost

valid locust
#

I died to elfilis twice, master crown twice as well

exotic geode
#

according to the wiki

river river
#

now you can just spam extra healing in mid bossfight

inland wadi
#

elfilis is a boss?

exotic geode
#

oh

#

nevermind

sturdy ore
#

I died to base Elfilis only once

inland wadi
#

guess that's what I get for not playing Forgotton Land

silk frost
#

I died to base elfilis

#

Once

valid locust
#

elfilis is a boss, not elfilin lol

sturdy ore
silk frost
#

Barely beat it the second time

ripe mulch
#

I died to story mode Magolor several times

exotic geode
sturdy ore
#

I died to Magolor Phase 2 only once

exotic geode
#

My Brother's playing Kirby so I tell him to dodge and run.

ripe mulch
#

It takes me a while to get a fight rhythm down

exotic geode
#

so I can revive and take him down

valid locust
#

point is, kirby bosses aren't super easy in all cases, the HP mechanic helps us and in particular those kids that can barely beat bosses to begin with

exotic geode
#

so yeah... Bandana Dee kill Elfilis

inland wadi
#

During the series of bosses in Level 8 I died once to... getting crushed by the terrain in the shooting sequence

exotic geode
#

also... you can just quit the stage and rejoin if you want to fight the boss at 100%

valid locust
#

anyway, I came here to post... the funny (THIS IS A WIP TRANSLATION DO NOT REPOST IT)

silk frost
#

Level 8: Another Dimension my beloved

exotic geode
silk frost
#

The entirety of Another Dimension is my favorite part of the main game

silk frost
#

Fly! Kirby of the Stars my beloved

exotic geode
#

Though I'm not too good with maneuvering Landia, at least it's not a Touhou Bullet Hell level

silk frost
#

The Lor fight is really good

exotic geode
#

I suck at the Lor fight because I'm bad at controlling the Landia

sturdy ore
#

I did not expect to get good at Landia quickly

It was hell in extra mode though

#

Halfed hp my detested

silk frost
#

The extra mode changes to AD are cool

ripe mulch
#

Yeah, half health just makes it unforgiving rather than actually harder

exotic geode
silk frost
#

No it's half

ripe mulch
#

Regardless it's not fun

exotic geode
#

Magologue >>> Extra Mode

#

all day

inland wadi
#

Extra Mode has been fine for me so far

sturdy ore
#

So glad they never did that again prayberge (except the ultimate choice lmao)

inland wadi
#

Since I didn't use the backup items at all and 100%ed Magoland I have a lot of resources

honest yarrow
#

it's 60%

exotic geode
#

anyways, at least we get Souvenir Items for Extra Mode

silk frost
#

The amount of healing items I used in mags soul

exotic geode
#

which is cool

somber cape
#

i love extra mode but not being able to play it instead of main mode from the start kind of ruins it

silk frost
somber cape
#

it's still the same levels lol

silk frost
#

But only needed 2 during TA mags somehow

inland wadi
#

What's the best sub game to grind stamps in

sturdy ore
inland wadi
#

I guess it's because both modes have their own completion trackers

exotic geode
#

I mean, it's a remake of a game which use the Extra Mode as a callback to the original game

sturdy ore
#

True

#

Not blaming the remake

honest yarrow
#
exotic geode
#

and even RTDL use Extra Mode as a call back to Kirby's Dreamland

exotic geode
inland wadi
#

Wait the playable characters have different stats???

exotic geode
#

Let's go Dedede

sturdy ore
#

Hm true

I know you can breeze through story mode in a day but man

exotic geode
#

You know, this design really do make Dedede feel like big and strong

#

Just saying

silk frost
#

I love fl/rtdx dedede

inland wadi
#

He is very friend shaped

silk frost
#

His animations in rtdx look so good and are so expressive

inland wadi
#

One thing I miss though

#

Dedede pumping his fist in the air while on the warp star

#

He doesn't do that in DX

sturdy ore
#

I just realized this remake confirmed one of my headcanons.

It was ā€œDedede isn’t fat, he is heavily muscledā€ and boom

limpid harbor
#

dedede at 1% of his power

inland wadi
#

Big fan of the P5_NS_PlusSkip in that gif

solemn sorrel
#

Guys why cant i skip the gif im pressing plus

random pine
#

how do you have a plus button

pearl fjord
#

Plus jumpscare

valid locust
#

god I'm happy this interview confirmed it I was so worried

limpid harbor
#

rtdx last kirby game

valid locust
#

anyway I'm almost done with the first pass of the translation, then I will review, format and post

#

if all goes well by the end of the week

regal pulsar
#

phew!

#

what a relief!

warm sun
#

Good luck!

pearl fjord
warm sun
#

I want to imagine what it would be like if the Kirby series just suddenly died off lol

pearl fjord
#

We would not realize for like at least 3 years probably

warm sun
#

True true

pearl fjord
#

I mean I guess most realistically it'd be if HAL went bankrupt or something which we would know but if like HAL just for no reason went 'no more kirby!!!!!'

#

We would find out because of a pause screen in freelance UFO

torn quest
#

yippee more kirby

brazen laurel
#

i cant believe they arent cancelling the kirby series in favour of the new magolor of the stars series

hybrid zodiac
#

Truly they're magolacking

valid locust
#

I like how they make sure to note his response was immediate

main jewel
#

i wonder why ninja

#

if there was a more demonic-flavored ability he'd probably go for that

valid locust
#

he likes using quad shock in the air in this game lol

pearl fjord
#

Lmao "Mf why did we remove this again"

warm sun
#

Ninja!

sturdy ore
#

You guys wonder what these giant ass bones used to belong to

warm sun
#

Hey those are mine!

#

I’ve been looking for them for ages!

sacred mango
#

And then the anime will be done, and Kirby will be done as a series.
We will release Part Time UFO 2 for the Sony Playstation 5.

torn quest
#

I wouldn’t complain about a Part Time UFO 2 tbh

valid locust
#

ok, first pass of the translation done. this ending is very taunting lol. will start reviewing it tomorrow

sacred mango
#

Still waiting for the full Polygon interview

inner jetty
#

the 30th and final anniversary of kirby

warm sun
#

"We also asked Kumazaki to look back at the 30th anniversary of Kirby."

inner jetty
#

see you in 20 years when we get the next meaningful anniversary date

sacred mango
#

no

#

in 5 years

#

actually

#

4

inner jetty
#

the 35th and 45th are not as meaningful anniversaries

pearl fjord
#

3

#

2

#

1

sacred mango
#

They did that for Mario and Zelda

inner jetty
#

the 40th is a little more meaningful but still kinda not as much impact

sacred mango
#

no reason Kirby would be the exception

flat hinge
#

mario got a buncha shit for his 35th

#

zelda got… a game and watch?

sacred mango
#

and the thing with HAL is that they always do better than Mario

#

šŸ™‚

flat hinge
#

and skyward sword hd too I guess

sturdy ore
#

2027 hype

inner jetty
#

Zelda basically got solely the Skyward Sword remaster by coincidence lol

they admitted they didn't even really plan anything for zelda's anniversary besides the game and watch

flat hinge
#

lol

#

well fair they had totk to work on

torn quest
#

Kirby gets the good boy anniversary treatment

valid locust
#

be like kirby cafƩ. they ended the 30th anniversary celebration to start the 31st one YaLikeJazz

sacred mango
#

lol

flat hinge
#

based

#

this is why kirby is peak franchise

sacred mango
#

HAL is peak

#

they give a shit

#

too much

#

lol

valid locust
#

kirby cafƩ has been celebrating every single anniversary since the 27th it's funny

sacred mango
#

we don't deserve them

flat hinge
#

hal is too good to us

sacred mango
#

Kirby's Dream Collection is still peak on the 20th

valid locust
#

although of course the 30th one was the biggest

sacred mango
#

25th we got 4 games, orchestra, and Eternal Dream

#

actually I may have skipped time on that last one

#

The CDs may have come later

valid locust
#

yeah the 35th will also have good stuff, HAL never misses

sacred mango
#

30th however

#

...we got technically 2 mainline games

#

one is a remake

#

and a spinoff

#

Music Fest

#

It's Kirby Time

#

The one novel where Magolor is apparently the worst character ever

earnest sphinx
torn quest
#

Being a Kirby fan is the best

earnest sphinx
#

mie please stop writing him as a completely rotten bastard

torn quest
#

You’re never disappointed XD

valid locust
#

...only if you were a kirby fan waiting for GCN in the 2000s

sacred mango
#

on the 30th we got Ishikawa doing Tilt 'n Roll music as the most memorable music of all

#

don't pretend otherwise

torn quest
#

I didn’t have a GameCube so that was no worry of mine yet

valid locust
#

ishikawa sweep

sacred mango
#

it's the new Green Greens

earnest sphinx
#

my first kirbo game was squeak squad so i missed the gcn torment

sacred mango
#

on the 35th Kirby Triple Deluxe Ultra will come

valid locust
flat hinge
#

I remember when rtdl came out I saw commercials for it and my eyes popped out of my head it looked so good

sacred mango
#

and Taranza Epilogue ~The Master of Puppetry~

torn quest
#

My first was actually Kirby’s Adventure on Wii U Virtual Console

sacred mango
#

where the final boss... is a Sectonia puppet trying to control the puppeteer, Taranza

torn quest
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One of the best NES games imo

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my first was super star ultra

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and it ends with Eternal Dream in the credits

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and you will cry

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Taranza Epilogue is just two hours of him sobbing and eating ice cream

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I’d buy it

earnest sphinx
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That said no joke though but if Taranza Epilogue is happening, I kinda wonder if the gameplay gimmick is Taranza controlling enemies...

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spiritual successor to ghost kirby??????

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my brain still can't process how cool this bg is man

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it's like, his thing

flat hinge
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random thought because i've been thinking a lot on backgrounds lately

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This game is so damn pretty

flat hinge
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but man rtdldx is so pretty

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It's almost funny but like

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after Triple Deluxe

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we never actually see Taranza being a puppeteer

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please don’t let this start another ā€œstar allies badā€ conversation but I’m so glad they decided to not use the blur this time around

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How can I go back to Star Allies when RtDl Deluxe runs at a silky smooth 60 fps? XD

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too late

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you can see the backgrounds in full magnitude

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man i'm so glad they realized they shouldn't be blurring the best parts of the kirby artstyle from fighters 2 onwards

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hello everyone its your (least) favorite dumbass

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I seriously want to see the unfiltered SA bgs waagolor There's some gorgeous scenery that wE CAN'T FUCKIN SEE

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I’m not a background snob but, damn. So pretty

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like even if you wanted them to not blend to the background give them more fog

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so happy with RTDLDX's direction

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being a kirby fan is legitimately easy

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ngl

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Well yes we get fed consistently

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if they puttin out absolute banger games its so damn easy

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Meanwhile I don't understand why Taranza has slow DDD's theme attributed to him

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ooooh yeah ever since kumazaki took the helm we've been eatin good

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Taranza is legit just HAL's punching bag

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They will not throw him any kind of bone without strings attached

sleek wolf
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the epilogue is so amazing. especially the song Settling A Score ~ Atone For One’s Misdeeds! for when you use the big sword on the master crown it just slaps SO DAMN HARD

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There was not just the Intro theme

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this face tells everything

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behind that face is someone with ptsd

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he wears a mask with a smile for hours at a time

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It's kinda sad too
They just
won't let him stand on his own as a character

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# sacred mango

this is taranza when he sees magolor selling the dress up mask of ā€œOld Friendā€ aka sectonia

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Do you think the shape of Taranza's face is a DQ Slime with horns?

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Dairy Queen slime?

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OHHH NVMD

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Dragon Quest

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what

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I’m a dumbass DrawciaSad

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lmao dairy queen this new menu item is crazy

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the kirby dairy queen lore runs deep

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poor gooeypat

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damn is dairy queen canon to kirby now

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no it's slime time

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Well where else is Pop Star gonna get their ice cream?

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from flowers

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damn you’re right though

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Well other than random flowers on the ground

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slime time is over

solar nest
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Is flower ice cream good?

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nah

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its flower flavored

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(no joke though I had no idea what the heck you guys were talking about until this image)

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never tried it though probs tastes like nectar

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(it sounds like an american only thing)

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I live in France

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yeah it’s a ice cream place

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They have good stuff

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i was gonna make an oui oui joke but im not gonna do it cause im too lazy too

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i had dairy queen a few weeks ago

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straberry

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Though everything in America tastes like ass according to people who visit so maybe you won’t enjoy it lol

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nah dairy queen is legit good

sacred mango
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I don't need ice cream places I just buy shit at the store lol

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its of the most valid

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Also fair

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Damn I want ice cream now ;;

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do the french use baguettes as a weapon or is this a stereotype

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Neither?

sacred mango
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see TomSka's video about Aliens

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ok

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(probably wont i make no promises)

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What were we talking about? XD

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also yes it's a complete stereotype that's false lol

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however baguettes are good

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i mean any type of bread is good

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no one is better than us with bread

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and cheese

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except moldy bread

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do americans use burgers as weapons or is that a stereotype

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uhhhh

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im not american

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If I rely on the Food Fight movie, probably

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im asian

torn quest
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I don't know you know the one

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With the dog?

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nice

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yoooo fr

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thas crazy

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And he eats raisins XD

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is that a raisin ruins reference

solar nest
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yo what happened to the dog

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I unno

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Could be

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but yeah back to RtDLD

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ANYWAYS

solar nest
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uhhhh

flat hinge
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back to the matter at hand

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I like White Wafers lol

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okay anyways the epilogue freaking slaps

flat hinge
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that is true

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Oh it was great

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the soundtrack is a banger

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my favorite personally is this:

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Crowned Doomer can bite me tho, screw him XD

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