#Return to Dream Land Deluxe

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young arrow
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Magolor's Scope Shot Deluxe featuring extra mode with Blooming Blasters Ultra

dense iron
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No.

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No boring blasters.

young arrow
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idk was checking the chat, saw that you were talking about scope shot and took the chance

young arrow
dense iron
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it can!

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I just hate it because it replaced scope shot

brazen laurel
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Booming blasters is just top down ranger ability

dense iron
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and its boring!

young arrow
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i still like to remember my reaction to the ranger ability

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my eyes can't believe what i was witnessing

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kirby with a gun

exotic geode
young arrow
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WAIT YOURE RIGHT

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MY BRAIN GOT PAUSED FOR A SECOND

thin kindle
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Honestly yeah you should be mad at Kirby on the Draw

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Thats the true enemy

exotic geode
dense iron
valid locust
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oh I've reached the funny

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LOL literally the first thing he answers

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Yes.

young arrow
odd rampart
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Hai

dense iron
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I will be staying in the one without magoland....scope shot solos

young arrow
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i like to imagine that if we had a canonical merry magoland

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like, the real one on kirby's universe outside of the game

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It would actually have every single minigame in the series including Scope Shot and such

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every single minigame no exception

valid locust
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average kumazaki verb

sturdy ore
regal pulsar
young arrow
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to the stupid

exotic geode
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when we bringing back that sticker?

odd rampart
exotic geode
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when we bringing back that sticker

young arrow
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how would this minigame work with bandee and meta knight tho

odd rampart
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why do they have different mechanics?

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i dont recall anythng of the sort

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would they not just hopscotch

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normally

young arrow
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spoiler they don't

odd rampart
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Oh that one

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I think theyd just use their arms.

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or slam the plate

young arrow
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yea makes sense

odd rampart
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whether or not they eat it, they'd have taken the apples

dense iron
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Simple: only have kirby and dedede playable

young arrow
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i can imagine meta knight and bandee pulling out the same baskets as in egg catcher in this one

thin kindle
young arrow
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WHY IS THERE SO MANY THAT INVOLVE EATING

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OH MY GOD

thin kindle
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Kumazaki dropping the phrase "world line" like any of use understand what this means

earnest sphinx
thin kindle
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stares at wiki page you know what yeah I'll just ignore this one idk what hes cooking

young arrow
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...What if we got a Kirby Battle Royale Remake in the style of Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe with lots of new stuff to fix all the issues with the original game

odd rampart
young arrow
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idk just had that random idea while looking at all of the minigames

valid locust
thin kindle
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:aware:

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God is trying to spare me by not loading the images

valid locust
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lol

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well spoiler kumazaki is giving non answers as usual Kapar

thin kindle
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we love to see it

young arrow
thin kindle
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Probably better this way lmao

young arrow
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between dedede drum dash deluxe and battle royale to get a remake for the switch, i would want battle royale

limpid harbor
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kumazaki dodging questions compilation

thin kindle
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They sh ould put 100 kirbies in battle royale

valid locust
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ANOTHER FUNNY I LOVE THIS LOOOOOL (the first line is the title of this section that is starting)

thin kindle
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It's funny cause says "Yes. But actually playing the whole game can make you come to different conclusions"

valid locust
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interviewer: 🫵 you are biased kuma

thin kindle
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Kumazaki is the creator of Magolor

young arrow
regal pulsar
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Kumazaki is the creator of Magolor.

flat hinge
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Kumazaki is the creator of Magolor.

valid locust
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when I review this I will probably change to "Kumazaki, you are the creator of Magolor." since funny japanese but yes for now please laugh

limpid harbor
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magolor the kuma self insert

young arrow
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Sleep being an actual copy ability to fight and Kirby attacked with his pillow

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We need that to return askldzsñ

valid locust
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for the record, this is the RtDLD chat, so if you want to talk about ideas for future kirby games, your best bet is to use #kirby-kingdom

sturdy ore
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Kirby channels stay on topic challenge

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(I say this as if I stay on topic)

young arrow
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i start with Kirby Return to Dreamland Deluxe and my worst result is ending on Kirby's Mass Attack

frigid jackal
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wanya

ripe mulch
young arrow
frigid jackal
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wanya wanya, (anyways, good night!)

young arrow
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it's actually 1 PM here but good night dee

sacred mango
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I kinda have a problem

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after relistening to the Magolor Fun Disc (one of those japanese fan album CDs)

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...it has the best version of Welcome your new overlord lol

mint ruin
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I have a true arena addiction

sacred mango
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and I now wish there was an EX version of that song where Ishikawa just dubsteps it

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lol

mint ruin
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Like seriously I need help lol

eternal river
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anyone else having an issue with EX boss masks not unlocking?

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I got Whispy Woods' and Mr. Dooter's masks but nothing after

void blaze
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I guess the obvious question but have you been defeating said ex bosses? if you've defeated them and return to magoland, they should all be given to you

eternal river
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for the record I'm all the way in Dangerous Dinner

void blaze
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ohh

eternal river
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oh wait

void blaze
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did you revisit magoland?

eternal river
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do I need to go to Magoland to get them?

void blaze
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yeee

ripe mulch
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Yeah

eternal river
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ahh that'd do it

void blaze
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there we go then haha

ripe mulch
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Related, I've been finding joy in fighting the ex bosses wearing the mask of their normal mode counterpart

eternal river
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disappointed there's not a D3 mask

winged breach
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I was hoping for that rather than a Metal General EX mask

eternal river
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yeah same

winged breach
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Also a Lor Starcutter mask would be really funny

eternal river
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also no Elfilis mask 2 outta 10 I want a refund

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TRU

inner sluice
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the lor has come to play in merry magoland

eternal river
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I find it funny that the cone Kirby got a mask instead of the car

ripe mulch
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I guess cuz the car got a rock form

eternal river
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tru

void blaze
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I was disappointed that neither phase 2 nor soul get masks

inner sluice
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phase 2 of who

void blaze
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mago

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(you might also hear it referred to as Crowned Magolor - but he doesn't have a real name lol)

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other than just Magolor

eternal river
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can't wait for free dlc to come out a year later that adds more masks

void blaze
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so true

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and playable elfilin omg!!! Do it hal you won't

eternal river
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gOD ACTUALLY THO PLEASE

inner sluice
void blaze
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It would be so awesome

eternal river
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it would be so cool

solid estuary
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conspiracy theory: kumazaki is in the mod team

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he's hiding in secret

void blaze
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"no longer a sidekick no that's not me" - elfilin becoming a playable character

solid estuary
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planting hints to the greater kirby multiverse in this discord as we talk

eternal river
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better yet make Elfilin the main character

void blaze
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wtf LOL

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real!

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I want more mouse

eternal river
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MORE

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MOUSE

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MORE

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MOUSE

eternal river
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instant improvement

winged breach
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The Lor Starcutter has come to play in Merry Magoland!

limpid harbor
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wish you could do this unironically

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it'd be like the robobot armour stickers

undone falcon
inner sluice
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the masks kind of act as the games big quantity collectible

void blaze
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lmao fight the starcutter while it wears a whispy mask or something

undone falcon
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also hi guys

inner sluice
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besides the spheres

undone falcon
eternal river
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biblically accurate whispy woods

undone falcon
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holy woods

midnight heart
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that should be a new "curse."

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holy woods, what the crown are you doing

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I don't know.

void blaze
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man I remember people joking about penultimate whispy fight

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I didn't expect it to be the literal final fight lmao

undone falcon
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he finally got revenge

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at least

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in the true arena he did

mint ruin
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Imagine how cool it would be to have a canon Meta Knightmare

ripe mulch
limpid harbor
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actually predicted some stuff

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mfw our jokes come true and the theories we come up with are dead wrong

void blaze
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I thought morpho was a shoe in

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I thoughted wrong

mint ruin
limpid harbor
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the HAL intern in this server seeing us talk about morpho being a given

mint ruin
void blaze
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a secret final fight where the world isn't at stake but meta knight just wants to kick your ass

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like starfy's secret final boss lol

mint ruin
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A Meta Knight fight where he doesn’t hold back, but he still provides a sword for a fair fight

earnest sphinx
limpid harbor
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all thats missing here is peak music

mint ruin
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It would be awesome if a potential true arena Meta Knight was the ONLY opponent capable of piercing invincible guards with basic attacks

void blaze
spare smelt
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i kind of hoped that when you beat Traitor Magolor and/or Magolor Soul, they would show up to play in Merry Magoland

one side of me says that this is stupid and makes no sense, while the other just wants to see Magolor Soul paint caricatures or something in Magoland

eternal river
inner sluice
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bros prob bigger than the entire park

ripe mulch
eternal river
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ahh

limpid harbor
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i was so close #1019293243944476672 message

jovial questBOT
eternal river
# ripe mulch Clash jokes

honestly RtDLDX pretty much just confirmed some things I was already suspecting about the Clash universe anyway

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I originally imagined it being an alternate universe where Dark Mind won in Amazing Mirror and the Kirbies ended up getting stripped of their powers, hence why they use actual weapons and armor and why it has such a prominent role

valid locust
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well we always knew clash verse was an AU

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and that magolor as the same

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what this game confirmed was the timeline of magolor getting there

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although it's also nice to get more confirmation of stuff in games rather than supplemental material outside of them that is japanese only lol

limpid harbor
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wasnt it confirmed that clasholor and magolor were the same character like a week before rtdx dropped

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through some article or something

scarlet sierra
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It was dug up in the weeks leading up to RTDX

limpid harbor
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thats funny

exotic geode
heavy vigil
valid locust
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it was just like

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a rare fact I guess

heavy vigil
valid locust
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I don't remember if that mini arc in the TKCD website also confirmed that

eternal river
limpid harbor
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it was a common theory anyway

heavy vigil
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nice that RTDLDX delivered the chance for it to happen

limpid harbor
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with only magolor calling him kirby of the stars and stuff

valid locust
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I can't remember if I'm gaslighting myself but I remember people in 2019 or something going "ah yeah this is the same magolor as revealed in this stupid japanese only source"

thin kindle
limpid harbor
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i saw the fiery puffer on the back and was 100% sure we were getting hades

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should've taken into consideration that it also said "interdimensional traveler" there too

valid locust
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I thought morpho/galacta were locks kirbwah

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I liked what we got but still lol

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kumazaki instead was like: christianity

earnest sphinx
limpid harbor
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because he's gonna make GK and morpho the focuses of their own games 😈

inner jetty
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I was really hoping for a completely new final boss because all the other final bosses are just basically more rematches

mint ruin
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Three Mage Sisters but even harder 💀

modest agate
thin kindle
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Stop using Galacta poorly!!!!

limpid harbor
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fr

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i like how they did morpho in FL though

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mfs be like "a whole game about GK/Morpho wouldn't work" but then HAL does it and it works

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we need an acronym for morpho that isnt MK

pearl fjord
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Just call him morpho

limpid harbor
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shorten it more im lazy

random pine
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morp

limpid harbor
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good

random pine
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morp is my 2nd favorite forgotten land boss

honest yarrow
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FL Morpho is good but quite predictable compared to Phantom Meta

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talking about this note of crowned magolor design

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やらしい笑い目 (eye that laughs in a creepy way)

sturdy ore
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Or its Japanese name BK

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Wait shit not Burger King

honest yarrow
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so from what the original design note says the crown's eye should be even more creepy like the crowned magolor himself?

regal pulsar
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what does that mean thefear

regal pulsar
pearl fjord
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Isn`t it saying "I wanted it to appear like the eye came from the Crown, so I created an eye with a nasty smile"

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As in the way magolor's eye is also a smiling mouth is to show that the eye belongs to the crown

regal pulsar
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sounds interesting

honest yarrow
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anyway there are more fanart of the crown itself recently

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so its eye has expressions lol

pearl fjord
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Speaking of the eye

honest yarrow
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I just read the ESRB summary of RtDL Deluxe

This is a side-scrolling adventure platformer in which players assume the role of Kirby, a small round character trying to help an alien. Players traverse whimsical levels while using cartoony weapons/skills (e.g., swords, bursts of fire/ice/electricity, jetpacks with small cannons, oversized missiles) to defeat robots, dragons, and boss characters. Fighting can be frenetic at times, with gunfire sounds, missile/bomb explosions, screen-shaking effects, and cries of pain; enemies disappear into puffs of smoke when defeated. Mini-games contain additional acts of fantasy violence: aiming and shooting projectiles at targets or opponents; samurai-like duels in which players use fans/pies to hit opponents.

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definitely worth E10+ /s

pearl fjord
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ESRB make sense challenge (Impossible)

regal pulsar
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love it when i cant dodge anything

honest yarrow
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the lasers aren't even that hard when they can be dodged via i-frame moves

pearl fjord
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Yea lol
But Im only really thinking about no ability anyway

honest yarrow
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back in Star Allies when the knights have tornadoes that can't be dodged at all

pearl fjord
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Even then you can probably just dodge through the laser with how fast it moves across the screen

honest yarrow
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basically SA knight tornado equals to Star Dream Soul OS's desperate attack in terms of hitbox

pearl fjord
honest yarrow
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some Dark Mind disco bomb reference I guess

pearl fjord
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Oh I guess it is pretty similar huh

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But yea the fun part about this is I made it so that the apple is floating in the middle of the air here

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So no ability kirby can't hit it

regal pulsar
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honestly terrifying

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literally a nuke

midnight heart
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what's no ability kirby even supposed to do normally? Can you just inhale that big apple?

flat hinge
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this will affect no damage runs I think

pearl fjord
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You could also try breaking them by slide kicking I know you can break the small apples that way I dunno about the big one

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You could also inhale the enemies he summons to spit stars at the apple too

honest yarrow
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the nuke apple is just as strong as the laser

pearl fjord
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Makes sense

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Magolor's fully charged gem apple bomb in Star Allies does like

flat hinge
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the apple that kills you instantly

pearl fjord
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100 HP damage per bomb right

limpid harbor
honest yarrow
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yes, but the combo rate is 0.25
so total damage of all three bombs at max level is 100+25+25=150

pearl fjord
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Ah

flat hinge
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also what’s tsubazeriai? the sword fight at the end?

honest yarrow
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yes

pearl fjord
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it means sword lock yea

flat hinge
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ah

pearl fjord
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or just struggle

honest yarrow
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that name is also used in FL truck QTE

limpid harbor
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me after eating a gem apple

honest yarrow
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it's basically how HAL calls QTE

regal pulsar
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me when i eat the apple that kills you instantly (ive blown up into pieces and this is the last piece of my body that is not yet turned to ashes)

pearl fjord
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Yea

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I think they used CloseContest instead for SA

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And I think they just called it Screw in PR? Or maybe that was something else, I forget

flat hinge
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Screw is funny

honest yarrow
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well it is a drill screw fight

pearl fjord
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Who designed a screwhead onto Star Dream 😭

honest yarrow
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well Soul OS just doesn't give a f*ck and inhales Kirby anyway

limpid harbor
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soul os stops the epic music

honest yarrow
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btw speaking of no ability

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Kirby just doesn't see the nuke apple because the tree was already beaten

regal pulsar
ripe mulch
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"It's for maintenance"

honest yarrow
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the piercing bullet hits both roots

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so 4 hits and phase 2 is over

pearl fjord
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ok yea I successfully dodged through my giant hado lasers lol

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Master Crown needs way more health smh

honest yarrow
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no ability is surprisingly fast for this battle

pearl fjord
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Oh actually I was able to break the big gem apple with air puffs

honest yarrow
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HAL just keeps the 0.75 multiplier for TA in RtDL Deluxe
in previous titles sometimes they just give TA bosses a separate multilier

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they can give the ME bosses higher HP but no

pearl fjord
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I think it was just Robobot that had separate multipliers right

honest yarrow
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even TD has them

pearl fjord
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Well in the first place Kirby doesn't fight them outside TA so they could've given them twice the HP and given Magolor twice the damage

honest yarrow
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DMK has higher base HP, but Shadow Dedede has higher HP in TA

pearl fjord
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I think they just wanted epilogue bosses to have low hp

honest yarrow
pearl fjord
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Whack

honest yarrow
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still Dedede is bulkier because he has higher defense

limpid harbor
winged breach
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This appears in the corner while you’re watching Nickelodeon

silk frost
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the king dedede's theme remix in rtdl/rtdx is really good

thin kindle
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And it was raw

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And he actually impacted the plot!!!!! Wowzers!!!!!

silk frost
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we all knew what was coming when the butterfly appeared in the intro cutscene and was quite clearly getting sucked into the portal

limpid harbor
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knight fights in the main plot 🤯

thin kindle
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GK did a similar thing in Robobot but it was non canon harharhar

honest yarrow
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HAL actually changed MK's attack names for the FL version

thin kindle
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And also localized out IIRC lmfao

pearl fjord
thin kindle
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Actually im not sure if it was mentioned that GKs attack is what activated soul OS in game

pearl fjord
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If anything it more clearly highlights the hitboxes of his roots

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So maybe its a bad idea lol

silk frost
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the roots look so funny

honest yarrow
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Galactic Counter hitbox

pearl fjord
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Wait normally the buildings in the background don't break until he uses the red hado laser at the start of phase 2 right

sour nexus
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It starts at phase 2 I think

silk frost
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laser is start of phase 2 but that's not what the question is about

silk frost
sour nexus
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Yes the buildings break when he does the laser

regal pulsar
honest yarrow
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in ME the buildings break immediately when the battle begins

sour nexus
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It's when he does the laser that's when they break

regal pulsar
silk frost
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HDKFBDGHKNVJDFKBVG HOLY CRAP THAT'S SO ACCURATE

sour nexus
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However it seems like the buildings actually start falling when being to battle Master Crown

honest yarrow
regal pulsar
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I'M GONNA EAT TREE CROWN'S TASTY ROOTS 😋 😋 😋

honest yarrow
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nvm

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after Magolor dies, they still break at the beginning

thin kindle
sour nexus
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Yeah they start falling

honest yarrow
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now I understand

thin kindle
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It's just by the time the laser happens they've fallen down

honest yarrow
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they start breaking during the intro

sour nexus
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Great attention to detail

honest yarrow
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so if you skip the intro, they don't break as fast

exotic geode
earnest sphinx
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Holy shit I never noticed the buildings crumbling during the crown fight (stuff i am not observant)

gritty lava
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:rdj:

honest yarrow
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the buildings also have similar designs to those in Egg Engines

dense iron
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"Insert random clip from the show here"

silk frost
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what song is Another Domination?

honest yarrow
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vs Crowned Doomer

silk frost
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I realized when I recognized the grand doomer motif

regal pulsar
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Man you dont know how fucking in zone I was when I first heard that intro

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Hazemoto be like: How do I accidentally make the best modern Kirby boss battle theme yet

odd rampart
regal pulsar
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YES

thin kindle
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I like that Crowned Doomer is just the same guy. Grand Doomer ultra hating he just came back

regal pulsar
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He's such a hater ❤️

odd rampart
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wait what country is 0th again

silk frost
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with a sick new look, too

exotic geode
thin kindle
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So tru

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With an e

exotic geode
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Crowned Hater

mint notch
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“You steal my ship part? I steal your apple out of spite!!”

thin kindle
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Grand Doomer stealing the Apple in an act of cosmic justice is pretty funny

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God said "L Magolor"

silk frost
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"Can't spell Magolor without the L"

thin kindle
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Wonder how the Grand Doomer and Crown exchange went.
👑 "Use your position to get me those apple slices"
🟠 "or what"
👑 (gets into his open mouth)
🟠 "I'm so hungry for apples"

regal pulsar
odd rampart
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Damn girl we need sleep!

regal pulsar
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I gotta wake up early due to fasting 😔 😔

dense iron
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gl on the fasting 💪

regal pulsar
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thanks were only like 5 days in or smth. 25 more days to go princeagony

limpid harbor
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0th is the entire country of malaysia

regal pulsar
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yeah

brazen laurel
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Damn gl

wispy crypt
random pine
wispy crypt
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Some of my cut hair was falling off on my Switch screen lmao

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Oopsie

zenith vortex
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Hey guys I beat just the true arena in rtdldx with normal Kirby and no souvenirs !

terse gazelle
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Nice

dense iron
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but gg

zenith vortex
dense iron
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Ah ok, gg all the same

mint ruin
silk frost
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I would never be able to do that

mint ruin
woven spire
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I once thought that then I did it in Soul Melter EX so I feel a little accomplished

zenith vortex
mint ruin
woven spire
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dang

ripe mulch
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It does sometimes go on sale at other places

mint ruin
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If I could get it for $30, that would be worth

ripe mulch
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Looking out of raw curiosity, looks like both Walmart and Target have Star Allies for $45 physical ($53 digital, why the difference? no idea)

So, not $30 low in my quick search, but who knows in the future. Also used copies probably exist

jolly stream
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I’m gonna crack Magolor open like an egg, and scramble his guts. Not out of hatred or anything, I just feel like it :3

tawdry stream
wicked wolf
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this is still the deepest lore tbh

regal pulsar
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This is true art

odd rampart
copper linden
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Now that I think of it I kinda want a remake of triple deluxe, with Taranza story with it.

wicked wolf
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I'm imagining PEAK

tribal pivot
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Interesting

copper linden
regal pulsar
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Me when I see CINEMA in my kirby game

wicked wolf
regal pulsar
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HAHAHHAHAHA

wicked wolf
regal pulsar
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"Sectonia...! Please listen to me...! I'm still here...! Snap out of it...!"
(high-pitched whirring sounds as four Miracle Fruits levitate into the sky from behind him)
"Hey, HEY, WHAT GIVES?! HEY STOP! STOP! STOP STOP STOP STOP! WHAT THE HELL"

odd rampart
wicked wolf
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Yes leepertroll

regal pulsar
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😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

wicked wolf
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Not directly

wicked wolf
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but the miracle he hoped for did occur, but not in the way he wanted...

regal pulsar
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THATS AWFUL

wicked wolf
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A miracle happened, she resurrected, but she forgot herself and couldn't hear his voice anymore...

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man taranza epilogue would be so coolllll

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I want it

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Gotta wait like 5 more years tho kirbwah

regal pulsar
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THAT NOTE

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WHAT THE HELL

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😭

rugged slate
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My concept for it is that taranza will try to get the mirror world version of sectonia to the real world, and fights dark taranza

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i really like dark taranza's desing and i wish it wasn't stuck on a 3ds eshop exclusive game

wicked wolf
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what if for a Taranza Epilogue

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you'd gather pieces of a seed or whatever

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to grow a Dreamstalk

regal pulsar
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THE FLOWER PEOPLE WILL FINALLY BE IMMPORTANT????

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sorry

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people of the sky

wicked wolf
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Would be cool

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dunno how they'd be involved but I'd like more of them for sure

regal pulsar
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maybe they help with the growth? idk

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whatever caused that dreamstalk seed to fucking glow in that cutscene

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but then again a lot of seeds grow immediately

heavy vigil
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The 🐍 when it's important:

wicked wolf
#

but then uhhhh

#

something takes over that seed

#

and it becomes

#

FLOWERED DARK MI

regal pulsar
#

A

wicked wolf
#

Idk but seeing a variant of Dark Mind based on Sectonia would be COOL

regal pulsar
#

Actually true

wicked wolf
#

Tho you'd be jumpscared

regal pulsar
#

We'd get a sunflower

#

SUNFLOWER

#

SUN STONE

wicked wolf
#

OH YEAH

#

THE PETALS

#

WILL LOOK LIKE DARK MATTER'S FINS HAHAHA

regal pulsar
#

OH MY GOD

wicked wolf
odd rampart
#

like how Master Crown is a Whispy Expy

wicked wolf
#

heheheheh

#

that'd be cool

regal pulsar
#

THOSE FLOWER CYCLOPS THINGS

wicked wolf
#

you know, that'd also be a funny expy for a Marx-centered mode LOL

regal pulsar
#

THEY GROW TO A LARGE SIZE

#

AND BECOME

#

d

wicked wolf
odd rampart
#

Sunflare and Moondrop

#

honestly

odd rampart
#

with Void and Elfilis i feel like Kirby's skewing away from like

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well not truly skewing away but like theres this vibe where there's a reason as to why a character would choose to be evil like idk

#

i have the vibe that they wont put Dark Mind as the reason Sectonia was corrupted

#

they want you to know that Evil comes from Anywhere

#

but also that Good comes from Anywhere

wicked wolf
#

Oh my idea was less

#

Dark Mind from Amazing Mirror caused it but

#

it'd be kind-of like Sectonia's own negative thoughts LOL

#

or well I guess you could make it a Nightmare expy too if it's dream themed lol

odd rampart
#

i feel like Whispy works as the expy because they signify the original sin/misdeeds theme

#

and it connects to Magolor

#

i think Taranza should fight Morpho Knight personally idk

#

insect + moth (related to death) + sunset

wicked wolf
#

Would be cool

#

What would Morpho absorb? Miracle Fruits?

odd rampart
#

I think Morpho should go hard on the death theme

wicked wolf
#

Or you could have the 4 eye flowers from SoS intro be the "antagonists who are cooking"

#

actually

#

yeah why not

#

make those the antagonists

odd rampart
#

eh

#

i feel like we put so much into putting the little pieces on the big picture

#

Magolor Epilogue just needed the Gem Apple and the Master Crown and thats it

#

especially if its gonna be similar to epilogue, tha tmeans you'd be fighting bosses like. Coily Rattler 3, Paintra 3, Pyribbit 4

wicked wolf
#

Idk I like funny flowereds lololunch

#

Flowery Expy because both would have been caused by Taranza leepertroll

odd rampart
#

Thats literlaly just sectonia

wicked wolf
#

exactly

odd rampart
#

ehh

wicked wolf
#

(I don't think she should be final boss for that LOL)

#

Not really sure what'd be a viable "original" final boss

#

Morpho Knight could work, 100%

heavy vigil
odd rampart
#

Magolor fights the Master Crown as an atonement for misdeeds

#

Taranza's misdeeds is helping/enjoying overruling a kingdom/country

#

Like, there's a whole lot of other aspects to him like

#

imagine Puppetry

#

Thats the thing with him he's got a puppetry theme but he was like a puppet himself, ordered by Sectonia

#

Ok i got it

#

either Dark Taranza (epic super kirby clash lore again!) or a "Dark" Sectonia

wicked wolf
#

yeah that's what I think too

#

Something mirror-related at least imo

#

or a homage

odd rampart
#

nah its not the mirror im trying to go for

#

im trying to signify a Puppeteer figure to his "puppet" minion status

#

the Themes™️ of the character™️

wicked wolf
#

me when King D-Mind & Queen Sectonia are the real masterminds

odd rampart
#

yeaahhhh i think thats the vibe i dont want to see

#

Its Taranza's story not Sectonia's or Dark Mind's or the Mirror's

heavy vigil
#

you know with Metal General's new lore right?

odd rampart
#

if it doesnt focus on Taranza as a character than it kinda fails as a successor to Magolor Epilogue personally

heavy vigil
#

literally Paintra's Master over again

wicked wolf
#

It's like if Magolor Epilogue had uhhhh Hyness or 0³ LOL

#

Honestly my main wish for Taranzalogue would be if it's a mix of HiAD/IIFD & Epilogue lol

#

You'd try to resurrect Sectonia as Taranza but the mode doesn't actually end with something like that

#

well it will because it'll lead to SoS in TA in my idea leepertroll

rugged slate
odd rampart
#

Yease

wicked wolf
#

One thing I do expect in that mode

#

this getting some new context lol

opaque moth
#

Give taranza a reason to seek sectionia beyond pure denial

odd rampart
#

"Sectonia. Show me the secret password to removing Bugs from Floralia"

regal pulsar
#

"pw3825749391f294529187"
"thats too much...!"

silk frost
#

hyribbit

odd rampart
#

its actually be air themed

#

Empyribbit

silk frost
#

empy?

wicked wolf
#

from Empyrean

#

which means like The Sky

silk frost
#

Empyrean is very different from pyro and hydro

wicked wolf
#

yea

#

well point is it'd be sky-themed

#

/air

odd rampart
silk frost
#

Why is it electricky? Electric would be perfectly fine

odd rampart
#

because the original name is a pun

#

its not the same pun

#

but they made it a pun in English

regal pulsar
#

It means Dooter is a bitch

odd rampart
#

to keep the vibe

warm sun
#

Why does nobody like the name Electricky, it’s funny stuckinanotherdimension stuckinanotherdimension

regal pulsar
#

i like it

odd rampart
#

i dont hate it

#

its just an example as to you dont need to follow Hydro/Pyro

regal pulsar
#

Empyribbit would be fucking cool btw

winged breach
#

Fits nicely with the name Dooter in that way

wild frost
#

Electricky Wicky Dooty

true heath
#

waiting for the mod that enables co-op characters to be p1 and im replaying the whole game

thin kindle
#

Why was night sky not the reward for all 120 missions

inner jetty
#

I mean I guess it is if you consider that ceremony a reward

earnest sphinx
#

ooh that's pretty

true heath
#

also someone modded kf2 mask into the game and honestly it looks raw on rtdx dedede

earnest sphinx
#

oh damn

#

it's stuff like these that makes me somewhat tempted to mod my switch but at the same time I don't want to get banned by Nintendo waagolor

solemn sorrel
#

Simply be rich and have a second switch leepertroll

earnest sphinx
dense iron
#

The person who made that mod talks there sometimes

true heath
#

me when i dont even look there anymore

#

but cool!

wispy crypt
#

That'll be so cool

hot lotus
#

got to true arena magolor soul and the game crashed

wispy crypt
#

WTF

#

How does it crash like that

hot lotus
#

2 many lasers

earnest sphinx
#

🇫

wispy crypt
hot lotus
#

actually it wasnt the laser attack

#

he was moving through the portals and then the game crashed

sacred mango
#

in the end what I retain of RTDX the most

terse gazelle
#

Magolor vs like 300 ft tree

zenith vortex
#

Also Whispy is honestly harder than master crown

heady onyx
zenith vortex
#

This is for no ability

#

Master crowns attacks are pretty much all inhaleable and there are stars

#

Whispy has gordos and poison apples which make the fight really tricky with no ability

mint notch
#

It’s crazy how MC went from a genuine challenge with mag to a complete joke with basic inhale, the epilogue bosses in ta being way too underpowered (or overpowered for ramping doomers) is the exactly what happens when you don’t balance around kirby

#

Rampaging doomers should definitely drop more recoil stars

inner jetty
#

i mean rampaging doomers are just a background boss lol

#

but anyway the Epilogue Bosses suffer from the same problem Morpho Knight did in SA where they're balanced around someone barely getting any upgrades

#

i think they tried to compensate for this by making them harder to hit but eh

mint notch
#

Fiery puffer has such low health for a post game boss, it’s depressing

true heath
#

rampaging doomers are annoying until you start to realize how to avoid their damaging trail

mint notch
#

Yea, hen I found out you could duck under many of their attacks it was a life saver

earnest sphinx
#

unfortunately i'm blind as shit and there's barely any contrast so i can't even see the trails

true heath
#

its still hard to keep track of them but not as much as on my first playthrough of epilogue

tawdry stream
#

didn't have any trouble with them tbh

inner jetty
#

i realized pretty early on that their clouds were just delayed explosions so i could literally just i-frame through them safely

honest yarrow
#

seriously tho
the whole ME becomes easy when you get Magic Barrier

mint notch
#

Only a handful of boss laser attacks can get through

honest yarrow
#

if you read the interview this month you probably know
HAL wants to make the game approachable to players of all ages

inner jetty
#

i don't remember accidentally dying until reaching master crown

and that was because i was deliberately prolonging the fight so i could see all the attacks

mint notch
wild frost
#

Lil baby

dense iron
#

bitch...

wild frost
#

Come on HAL make plushies of all Magolor costumes I'll be happy to surrender my money to funny catboy

dense iron
#

I hate this egg! He removed scope shot from his ship

honest yarrow
#

Magolor in ME is broken only if you upgrade Magolor Surge
Magic Sphere is just weak

dense iron
#

He is Scope Shot enemy #1

honest yarrow
#

bosses have 75% HP in TA but considering there are 21 battles I think that's fare

#

it's already the longest TA in the series

tawdry stream
#

tbh i wished the ME bosses put up more of a fight in TA

honest yarrow
#

Soul Melter EX isn't even that long with no ability because Star Bullet gets an exclusive buff here

#

Fiery Puffer is quite reasonable to me

#

if you stop the phase 2 rolling, you are good
if not you waste 20 seconds

#

Electricky is a bit easy because he's the level 1 boss of ME

#

Rampaging Doomers and Crowned Doomer are all about memorizing their patterns

#

their patterns are better than the Mage Sisters I would say

true heath
#

It felt just right to me

honest yarrow
#

same

#

concentration is imporant

#

the only thing I don't like about the remake is the ability nerfs

true heath
#

Despite having a lot of bosses, TA in RTDX had great pacing

#

Which is not something i can say for some of the past ones

#

Helps replayability

tawdry stream
wild frost
#

Anyone got a compilation of all of Magolor's costumes

true heath
#

Well not everyone is peak gamer like you are i guess

#

I second tried it, magolor soul dx caught me off guard

#

Either way replay value in the long run is more important to me than the difficulty the first time you play it

hybrid zodiac
#

Kill Magolor

tawdry stream
#

i had the benefit of knowing about new soul beforehand, I probably would've died if I hadn't known that the blackholes were bs

true heath
#

Me when my precious game breaking sand ability was taken away from me by two black holes

exotic geode
true heath
#

Stupid Magolor smh

honest yarrow
#

one thing to meation is that RtDL and the remake tend to have higher damage output because of the combo rate being fixed 0.75

hybrid zodiac
#

Magolor will dieolor

#

Kill him

honest yarrow
#

since TD, moves have their own individual combo rate, usually resulting in lower DPS than RtDL

#

let's say, Sword and Spear are the worst abilities in TD because of their pathetic combo rates

#

but they are quite good in RtDL

#

that contributes to the TA difficulty

tawdry stream
#

if only spear didn't lunge you into bosses lol

honest yarrow
#

actually the final thrust has i-frames in TD and SA, but not RtDL

exotic geode
#

is RTDL DX Dedede better than RTDL Dedede in terms of usage?

tawdry stream
#

i've noticed that at least with bandee
he'll just keep moving forward into the boss like in og rtdl

tawdry stream
#

but i remember SA / KF2 having him held back when using that spear jab combo

hybrid zodiac
#

Original rtdl Dedede was ass in hindsight

tawdry stream
#

he got the job done

honest yarrow
#

Spear Barrage has 24 base power
but in TD, the combo rate reduces consecutive hits to 10 power

#

24, 10, 10, 10...

#

then the boss has a defense modifier

#

so even worse damage

#

currently Spear has the worst TD TA time record (not counting no ability) btw

true heath
honest yarrow
#

the DMK fight is the worst part of the video (as the player mentions)

true heath
#

But i think both Bandana Dee and Meta Knight were nerfed by comparison

#

To their SA appearances that is

exotic geode
#

oh

true heath
#

Well

#

I think Bandee can't do one combination of attacks anymore and Galactic Counter is no longer invincible

honest yarrow
true heath
#

Ah

honest yarrow
#

Bandee is just as good as in RtDL

tawdry stream
#

they should've given Bandee that scrapped move they found in the files of OG rtdl
where he does that copter spin below him

honest yarrow
#

meanwhile MK is just swole with Galactic Counter

tawdry stream
#

would've been so useful for him imo

true heath
#

True

#

I also kinda expected some of his moves from FL to carry over

tawdry stream
#

true like the arrow rain during copter

honest yarrow
exotic geode
#

imagine a boss fight with Galatic Counter Meta Knight

honest yarrow
#

sub 14 is like 7/10 for speedrun tier

tawdry stream
#

at least similar

honest yarrow
#

to speedrun with Spear you have to use Spear Barrage but not reaching the combo rate frame threshold

tawdry stream
odd rampart
#

so you ahve to time it

honest yarrow
#

if the consecutive hits within 24 frames it is multiplied by 0.75

odd rampart
#

how many frames is it

#

ah

exotic geode
#

Kirby game have so much fighting game-like mechanic.

odd rampart
#

why do you think i like it

exotic geode
#

That's also why I like it

honest yarrow
#

but in SA the combo rate time is much longer so it's impossible to do the same trick

odd rampart
#

DO THEY HAVE TO FLEX BY DROPPING ABILITY TO AVOID FATTY PUFFER LOL

true heath
#

I like Kirby because games scratch itches of interesting interaction with the environments but also letting me destroy everything in my path in style

plucky monolith
honest yarrow
#

yeah I don't remember exactly how much but it's like doubled?

#

resulting in some abilities even slower than no ability in extra

earnest sphinx
odd rampart
#

THEY BUFFED STAR SPIT IN TA?

#

oh wait us aid Soul Melter EX

honest yarrow
#

Soul Melter EX only

odd rampart
#

i cant read

royal gulch
#

Depends on the situation

#

Also because Poison Apples will damage you if inhaled

#

Which will stink if you were eating a whole group of normal ones when this thing shows up

#

Also floating is a bad idea because EVERY attack falls from the ceiling

honest yarrow
#

it never falls right next to whispy

#

the top right is always the safe zone

#

the whole point of Whispy EX is that this is the first time he can inhale Kirby

midnight heart
#

eh? Normal whispy can too?..

ripe mulch
#

I thought normal Whispy could inhale you in RtDL

midnight heart
#

yeah even in the original

honest yarrow
#

right I just typo'd

#

it's not meant to be a hard fight

#

EX adds the root attacks

#

so you can't always stay at the bottom right corner

#

but that's it

#

for no ability speedrun it's still faster to get inhaled to end his defense buff quickly

mint notch
#

One thing I hate about this ta specially is that you have to shake the controller/wiggle the control stick for a super inhale and I’ve never been good at mashing, qtr or anything in that capacity so have to do that the whole 40+ minute run while cramping my big adult hands around the small joycon controller can get tiresome

ripe mulch
#

You can just hold the inhale for a few, it just takes longer to activate

mint notch
#

(Also I’m a cheapskate and can’t be bothered to buy a new controller just for Kirby)

honest yarrow
#

super inhale is less demanding compared to Spark or Needle

mint notch
ripe mulch
#

Fair

mint notch
honest yarrow
#

if you only want to challenge it once that's enough

#

in speedrun you just have to shake it during the Lor shooting

silk frost
#

I did all the checkerboard chase missions without breaking my perfect winning streak

honest yarrow
#

I understand the remake should keep the old shaking control, but the shootings in PR and SA are just better imo

#

shaking affects your movement control

exotic geode
#

does Spark/Plasma have a Hold B move?

honest yarrow
#

also charging a shot slows Landia's movement

exotic geode
#

oh wait

#

nevermind

honest yarrow
#

the current Lor EX TA record is around 48 seconds btw

#

phase 1 is actually very easy because the starting point is actually the safe zone

#

you don't move and spam charge shots

#

Lor's boomerangs just won't hit you

hushed mica
#

Huh. Always thought you had to adjust your position to be at that blindspot

#

Cool to know for later

honest yarrow
#

the easiest way to buff Spark without changing its mechanics is just lowering the mashing/shaking threshold

sacred fog
#

That's basically what they did for the 3DS titles, wasn't it?

honest yarrow
#

I don't think it's even changed in 3DS titles

sacred fog
#

I swore it took far less overall inputs to charge to full Spark in those titles...

#

to compensate for the loss of Wii Remote shaking

#

but also the damage nerfed (as was the moveset) to compensate

exotic geode
#

what if we incorporate Mecha's stored charge into Spark?

#

where we hold B to create and Spark Barrier, but once we flick up after the holding we get one spark charge

honest yarrow
#

so I'm reading some datamine values

exotic geode
#

where we can shoot as a spark arrow?

honest yarrow
#

RtDL (proably the same in deluxe)
max charge value=1000
shake remote +10
mash d-pad +30

#

TD
max charge value=2000
rotate stick +60
mash d-pad +72

#

RtDL requires 660 charge value to reach max level
minimum: 660/30=22F

#

(of course that's TAS input and impossible for human)

#

TD requires 1320 to reach max level
1320/72=19F

#

so it's barely a change for human

sacred fog
#

Huh, so that does confirm my suspicion - even if the data is ultimately only a few notches different

honest yarrow
#

trivia: in TD if you both rotate stick (+60) and mash d-pad (+72), stick is prioritized
so mashing d-pad is better

#

meanwhile Archer for comparison
Shot: 16 power, hold 28F or less
Snipe Shot: 24 power, hold 29F-63F
Magic-Star Arrow: 50 power, hold 64F

#

Spark/Plasma max level: 40 power

#

I haven't counted the charge time of Mecha but it's just way slower

#

and Full Charge Blast does 12+9×2+12=42 damage in total

#

HAL holds back a lot when giving Mecha's values

hushed mica
#

Feared that it would end up being too strong only for sand to be the best instead

gritty lava
#

It definitely feels like they held back a bit with mecha

ripe mulch
#

Everyone was also worried on seeing it in the trailers for the first time lol

But nope, it was sand they should have been concerned about lol

honest yarrow
#

I just calculated the Spark Robobot Armor max laser
72+18×5=162 damage

#

the base power is 72 lol

#

imagine if it has no combo rate

ripe mulch
#

The ability to attack from a distance is still nice at least

silk frost
#

I want to never play tome trackers and Kirby on the draw again but I also want to 100% rtdx

honest yarrow
#

tome trackers took me the most tries to 100%

pearl fjord
honest yarrow
#

yeah it's more about positioning

pearl fjord
#

There’s a lot of iframes after swallowing an ability and you have free movement during it unlike a dodge

silk frost
mint ruin
#

I’m really close to 100%ing rtdldx, as long as you don’t count Magoland

earnest sphinx
#

I might be unhinged
I spent day 1 downloading the game
I spent day 2 getting 120/120 in Magoland
I got Kirby Master by March 4th

exotic geode
#

Even better than Forgotten Land

earnest sphinx
#

Oh for sure
Problem is I only got to play with someone else for the first time last week

exotic geode
#

how was the experience?

#

A lot of the puzzles become even funnier if you play multiplayer

earnest sphinx
#

Oh playing with my brother was a blast
We got up to a ton of shenanigans

#

And yes, he did the funny

exotic geode
earnest sphinx
#

I 100% was magiggle

exotic geode
#

lmao

jolly stream
frail jackal
#

it's weird how you can't adjust the amount of rounds in a magoland tour

#

what is this dream buffet

#

cant believe we can adjust samurai kirby wins needed for victory but not this 🙄

exotic geode
#

you can adjust the amounts of rounds...

based on difficulty

#

wait

#

nevermind

#

I thought Easy only have you go through 3

uncut siren
hexed jasper
#

Ok, just gotta say, something that has been making me lose my mind lately is the Kirby model in RTDLDX…

Is it forgotten Lands model? A slightly changed version? Like I don’t get it…

#

Sometimes it looks like FLs models, other ones it doesn’t, but obvs they wouldn’t just swap the model out every 5 seconds

dense iron
#

I think it's just a modified dream buffet model

#

The one in magoland is the fl model tho

hexed jasper
#

Different models for Gameplay and Magoland? Wild

dense iron
#

I think

midnight heart
hexed jasper
#

I’m talking specifically Kirby tho

#

Waddle Dees I knew about and can spot the difference

#

But like sometimes Kirby looks like FL and other times he looks more like Star Allies

#

Ultimately it doesn’t mean anything, and I’m not complaining about it, I’m just curious

#

of all things to talk about here I am

#

Guess it’s just a mouth texture playing tricks on me

rugged slate
#

Because it's 2 different models

#

Main mode uses sa, magoland uses fl

terse gazelle
#

Speaking Of Forgotten Land's Models

#

Why Do Kirby's Eyes Sometimes Turn Teal?

rugged slate
#

Because it's cool

regal pulsar
#

prob lighting

#

specific shader to make kirby pretty ig

midnight heart
#

I think his eyes are reflecting the green surroundings the same way they reflect the stars in the Star Allies art

sturdy ore
sturdy ore
#

The eyes are smaller

valid locust
#

but it was a conscious decision at least

limpid harbor
valid locust
#

people be comparing models for kirby and I'm like "they all look cute idk"

sturdy ore
#

True

limpid harbor
#

fr

#

3DS kirby is adorable kirbwah kirbwah

valid locust
#

VoidNerdina that is not a model

sturdy ore
#

Tbh Kirby character designs are simple but differences between designs are subtle enough for people be like “Hmmm this Kirby is better than this Kirby”

hexed jasper
limpid harbor
#

they're all good except kid kirby there

sturdy ore
#

Kid Kirby with his flesh hair:

hexed jasper
#

gross

sturdy ore
#

Kirby multiverse game where Kid Kirby cameos

rugged slate
hexed jasper
#

I’m a huge fan of FLs model tho

limpid harbor
#

they made kirby so bouncy in FL

midnight heart
#

really want to know if they used some other models for the bosses that visit magoland now.. since they bothered swapping models. But I guess those guys havent appeared in a 3d game

odd rampart
hexed jasper
#

FL Kirby just feels most expressive

#

Love this guy so much

limpid harbor
#

fr

limpid harbor
#

look at him

sturdy ore
earnest sphinx
hexed jasper
#

Yeah, I can see it as a modified Star Allies model

odd rampart
#

with better eyes

hexed jasper
#

Well…the eyes look more like FL actually

#

Facts

limpid harbor
#

SA eyes are so blue wow

sturdy ore
#

It’s all in the face

limpid harbor
#

i remember being disappointed 5 years ago kirby's eyes didnt actually have the cosmos in them lol

odd rampart
sturdy ore
odd rampart
#

I see

#

the easy way to tell if its KSA or FL model is is the smile actually a 3D shape

#

FL does, KSA and its variants do not

hexed jasper
#

KF2 and SKC also used a deferent model than SA

odd rampart
#

besides, KSA's model is more used in 2D games than FL's

hexed jasper
#

It was basically HD 3DS model wit some big ol eyes

limpid harbor
#

oh wtf his mouth is 3d

odd rampart
#

explains the blackened mouth

limpid harbor
#

never realized tbh

hexed jasper
#

Gotta say tho

#

This is my fav render of Kirby now EZ

exotic geode
#

they all pink and round and shape like a friend

hexed jasper
#

Ye, but with trained and obsessed eyes like ours, we can tell even the smallest differences

dense iron
#

The sa model is never used in rtdx

#

It's just a modified dream buffet model which was modified from FL

rugged slate
#

No, the fl model is only used in magoland

dense iron
#

I know.

#

I stated that before.

#

Saying that it uses the SA model is completely incorrect though

candid bolt
#

oh my lord what have i missed in this channel over the last 72 hours💀

candid bolt
signal agate
#

I never thought I’d be this fast in Samuri Kirby 100:

inner sluice
#

now get 0

signal agate
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What I did was take a blind guess at when the ! marks were going to show up, and hope that when I push the button, it would be after those marks showed up already

signal agate
candid bolt
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so you're telling me

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i'm ONE FUCKING HUNDREDTH OF A SECOND

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from completing the 10th or higher mission🥲

odd rampart
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thats not 1/100th of a second

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thats 1/60th of a second

candid bolt
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oh huh

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either way that's annoying af🤧

odd rampart
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anyway the thing is that you can do the mission without doing the online 1 try a day one

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you just need to play the subgame

signal agate
odd rampart
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ya 1 frame

candid bolt
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damn🥲

signal agate
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Took me 164 attempts to do it the first time, and not much less the next 2

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Even getting a platinum medal on the Item Challenge in Extra mode took me less time

odd rampart
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Samurai Kirby scales to your first few opponenets

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if you were crazy fast against the first few the game scales as hard as 10 frames at Meta Knight

signal agate
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So far, 3 of the 4 files I played that sub-game on, Mega Knight’s speed was exactly 16 every time, until I beat him once, then he moved onto 15 each time after that

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After I did complete that true extra mission on all 3 files, then deleted 1 to start over, on the new one I have now, I beat him again twice in a row 2 separate times, but I didn’t count either of them because the first time, I cleared hard, normal, then hard again, but even though there were no faults in between, so I thought it would still count it, and the 2nd time, I did fault once, but restarted before That round ended, which normally makes it not count as an actual fail

inner sluice
signal agate
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1 tip I can give for those struggling to complete that mission for winning on hard twice in a row, is that 2 of the other 3 times that it did count it as completed before, I lost to mostly Meta Knight & Magolor several times in between my 2 full wins, but I restarted before it moved on to the next screen & I didn’t fault in the middle of any of those matchups every time in between, so it still said I completed that mission

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So I guess it doesn’t count it as a fail if you restart fast enough & don’t fault.

glacial crypt
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question: are there any resources comparing the pause screen text in deluxe vs the original, preferably with the original japanese versions as well?

regal pulsar
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yeah

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hold on

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wait no nvm lol

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deluxe vs the orgiinal

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i dont think ive see nanything like dat

odd rampart
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i know faye looked at the wii descs

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but i dont think she put ALL of the original wii text in her doc

glacial crypt
odd rampart
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oh she did Put the wii text in

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damn! Faye thorough!

regal pulsar
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awesome

valid locust
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faye moment

sour nexus
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Faye is a hardworker

regal pulsar
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Faye more like Faye-ry cool

silk frost
odd rampart
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possibley (?)

honest yarrow
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TIL Master Crown's leaves can be Super Inhaled for the Leaf ability

silk frost
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Lucky for me that I still had consistency when doing the samurai Kirby missions

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Avg 16-17 frames, highest 15 or 14... now I can barely get less than 18 for some reason

proven vapor
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i just learned that in magolors 2nd non-soul phase his eyes become red

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and more evil looking

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how have i never noticed this

regal pulsar
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oh yeah

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he gets angry

silk frost
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I knew that because I made a pillow of that face in school