Return to Dream Land Deluxe

[valid locust]

RtDLD debut was weaker than SA however

[exotic geode]

It also number one at weekly sales for a while

[wild frost]

Can't tell if it's cursed or (it's the RtDL model so it counts maybe idk lol)

[exotic geode]

Last week it sold 25k copies

[undone falcon]

he looks cute

[exotic geode]

Somehow, Kirby sold more in Japan at its 5th week than Bayonetta Origin in its debut

[dense iron]

I like it

[odd rampart]

he doesnt need larger eyes he needs taller eyes

like K64

[exotic geode]

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/03/japanese-charts-bayonetta-origins-makes-a-lukewarm-debut

[odd rampart]

tbh i dont think anyone asked for Bayonetta Origin

which is why the marketing is trying so hard to convince you to get it

[exotic geode]

I also don't think anyone would think of Kirby RTDL remake before it's advertise

[odd rampart]

Uh

wrong

Anyway

[wild frost]

Should we not ask for a TD and PR remake so that it happens then

[valid locust]

yeah lol

[gritty estuary]

kirby being swag

[sturdy ore]

Me who predicted an RTDL remake 3 years prior:

[inner jetty]

TD/PR remake is definitely not going to happen within the Switch's lifetime

[valid locust]

yeah

[sturdy ore]

True

[valid locust]

it will be in the switch pro

[odd rampart]

i dont think anyone was like "oh i wish we could see Bayonetta as a child"
but there are lots of people going "They should bring back RtDL since that game already has multiplayer and even if its a port it would be nice"

and then they remade it and added content

[inner jetty]

unless HAL pulls an AlphaDream and do you really want them to pull an AlphaDream???

[exotic geode]

Then they remake a Flagship game instead

[gritty estuary]

AM AM AM AM AM

[exotic geode]

With smarter AIs

[inner jetty]

anyway I'd just expect them to be focusing their efforts towards an FL sequel

[gritty estuary]

yup

[inner jetty]

which may or may not even be on the switch

[gritty estuary]

vanpool can do the other stuff

[wild frost]

Forgotten Land sequel, WITH HELPERS AND DREAM FRIENDS!

[inner jetty]

the Switch only has like 2 years left, tops

[odd rampart]

you say that like Kirby doesnt like being hte last games released on a console

so like

[gritty estuary]

battle royale moment

[odd rampart]

That and Switch User base is fucking huge either way

[exotic geode]

Me praying for the next console to have backwards compatibility

[odd rampart]

especially as it stands right now

[wild frost]

Last Kirby game before the Switch dies will be CLASH 3 BABY!

[gritty estuary]

yeah i think they want to ride the switch high more

[wicked wolf]

I really doubt next console wouldn't have backwards compatibility

Like

[regal pulsar]

that would be stupid

[wicked wolf]

It'd be really questionable if it wasn't backwards compatible

Genuinely

[gritty estuary]

there gonna just make a switch 2

likely

[sturdy ore]

Super Nintendo Switch

[exotic geode]

Imagine Nintendo release the next Console, removed Switch E Shop and no backwards compatibility. Also, only 3 games at launch is available in the New consoles

[undone falcon]

no way nintendo life

[brazen laurel]

Alright guys
While u were arguing, i fixed king dedede

[gritty estuary]

AAAAAA

[brazen laurel]

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

[odd rampart]

truly, no one likes saying why they like dedede deisgns fr

[inner jetty]

I don't

because it's a pointless and subjective argument

[undone falcon]

long dedede

[earnest sphinx]

I've said it; I like Club Penguin Dedede because it fits his current characterization as a friend who can still get serious when needed

[wild frost]

Can't people just like a design 😔

[wispy crypt]

no

[undone falcon]

hello

long neck dedede 2.0

[dense iron]

4 years.

😭

[undone falcon]

i call him wacky inflatable arm man dedede

[warm sun]

https://tenor.com/view/giraffe-spongebob-balloon-gif-11664373

[wispy crypt]

[undone falcon]

THEY TOOK IT FROM US

[undone falcon]

that's it

i'm calling him that from now on

[gritty estuary]

look at him

[earnest sphinx]

he,,,

[brazen laurel]

SMASH ANNOUNCER: Long Dedede!
Long Dedede: r̴u̵u̸u̶u̵u̴u̷h̴ ̷r̸u̴u̵u̵u̸u̸h̴ ̵r̴u̷u̷u̵u̴u̸u̷h̶

[undone falcon]

perfect

[terse gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/cracked-villager-news-villager4-fortnite-gif-25530589

[dense iron]

THIS GOES HARD

[wild frost]

The Sky Tower part in Supreme Ruler's Coronation - OVERLORD just hits so HARD

[errant marlin]

finally finished magolor epilogue with the gf last night

master crown fight is insane and i love it

[wild frost]

Anyone got a screenshot of four sad Magolors

[pearl fjord]

God this is just. The most horrible render ever

[atomic kindle]

filthy render

[gritty lava]

Good thing they used it for the Kirby amiibo!

[fiery veldt]

[limpid harbor]

what game is that render even based off of

[fiery veldt]

Mayhaps Return to DremLand

[wild frost]

not game...

[regal pulsar]

No Way

HAl really ripped off biden

[limpid harbor]

its dededover

[inner jetty]

its generic

its supposed to represent the series

[dense iron]

Dedede BLAST

[limpid harbor]

why's it suck then

[dense iron]

I personally like the render

[pearl fjord]

THE AMIIBO LOOKS FINE THOUGH

ITS JUST THE RENDER THAT'S ASS

[gritty lava]

The amiibo is better than the render ig but I still don't like it all that much

The pose just looks really awkward to me

[pearl fjord]

Well part of it for me is that I think most amiibo look subpar and awkward anyway

[gritty lava]

Ya but my problem is with the pose

Not the amiibo production standards

[pearl fjord]

It do be a stupid poe

[gritty lava]

Honestly the dedede one is better off as an amiibo bc it's at least like

Pretty simple with bright colors

[pearl fjord]

wtf no zelda poe gifs

[gritty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/spirit-tracks-link-zelda-the-legend-of-zelda-gif-25622925

There's your zelda poe

[pearl fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/link-werewolf-transformation-wolf-transformation-zelda-twilight-princess-gif-21375844

[limpid harbor]

there are two wolves inside of me

[pearl fjord]

Oh the gif transforms back smh joke ruined

[scarlet sierra]

Logging onto discord

[gritty lava]

🐺

[jolly stream]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cE9mOyXm248

Me after getting all 30 eggs on hard mode

[true aspen]

Magolor epilogues final boss is master crown

[regal pulsar]

real?

[true aspen]

Yeah

[regal pulsar]

no way jose

[valid locust]

hey RtDL experts does story mode in the remake have different point star placements or is kuma talking about extra mode

because the first thing is due to the new enemies for the new abilities

[rugged slate]

Does anyone have the kumazaki interview where he says magolor paid for his sins?

[valid locust]

I swear kumazaki has used every single word in the japanese dictionary at this point like this is so specific

[regal pulsar]

RtDL?

im sure someone has it

[midnight heart]

the point stars themselves are different but I'm not sure about the placements

[valid locust]

this? https://kirbydevpostarchive.tumblr.com/post/164951856636/hal-laboratory-イシダ-hallaboratory-10232015-908

"sins" is in the japanese version, english uses "crimes"

but I assume it's this one

[rugged slate]

Yes

[true heath]

localizers are so cowards for not using "sins"

[valid locust]

to be honest... it's both but yeah

[regal pulsar]

But the religious reference!
(A plethora of Magolor religious references looking from the distance)

[true heath]

honestly like

[valid locust]

no religion in kirby!!!!!!

[true heath]

is word sin THIS religious overall? i thought it was used all over the place lol

[pearl fjord]

CRIMES IS STILL AT LEAST BETTER THAN "MISDEEDS"
COWARD ASS NOA

[regal pulsar]

It is

[valid locust]

treehouse looking at magolor epilogue like

[true heath]

misdeeds lmfao

[regal pulsar]

but it probably cant be used in kids media

because it IS generally associated iwth religion

[wild frost]

Treehouse should Pay for one's sin!

[true heath]

i mean yeah but like

what is Noa afraid of here exactly

[pearl fjord]

Like they used the word Atone instead of Pay too like
Just say sins

[regal pulsar]

thats the thing idk

[valid locust]

DSJVGFSDJGJKSDGSD

[regal pulsar]

they prob dont want to reference religion at all

[true heath]

like im actually confused

what is so scary about word "sin"

[regal pulsar]

NoA sweating their fucking ass off translating Star Allies

[pearl fjord]

Like why remove the word sin and then add Atone

[wild frost]

it's a sin

[true heath]

me when fucking animaniacs had few episodes spoofing bible but kirby localizers are too cowardly to retain garden of eden reference

[midnight heart]

point star placements are the exact same so far...

[valid locust]

oh wow

[pearl fjord]

ETHEREAL ALTAR

[wild frost]

Wasn't there like a thing with Flamberge's translation where they turned hell into marshmellows or something lmao

[true heath]

i mean this i can understand

america is lame and hell is considered to be a swear word

[pearl fjord]

Yea she was like I'll burn you with fire so hot that hell feels cold
Or something like that

[midnight heart]

WAIT

[wild frost]

If Pikachu can say hell then so can Flamberge!

[midnight heart]

okay there's a point star in place of food in the first interdimensional road

[true heath]

but like

[exotic geode]

the 'Etheral Altar" vs the cooler "Room of Eden"

[tawdry stream]

religious reference? in my kids game?
banned. censored, even.

[true heath]

all magolor epilogue "censoring" is honestly kinda baffling to me

[pearl fjord]

Me when I change God to Dark Lord

[exotic geode]

Kirby says "F*ck you!" (IDK what it is in Japanese)

[wild frost]

Poyo!

[true heath]

honestly at this point im not even sure if i should complain because even with all this censorship its still better localization than what we've been getting for a bit

[regal pulsar]

Like

they should just give up at this point

[true heath]

but its just kind of puzzling

yeah

[regal pulsar]

Theres really no need

[exotic geode]

Kirby never say that 😠

[regal pulsar]

HAL's doing it now

They're slowly going in on the whole religious rferences

Give it up LOL

[valid locust]

the funny

[pearl fjord]

klu getting gaslit with not-as-bad translations

[true heath]

true

i should have higher standards but im just glad we are not having robobot and star allies situation anymore

[earnest sphinx]

Extra Mode replaces most food with Point Stars though, doesn't it?
Or are both images in Extra Mode

[valid locust]

hey at least english isn't allergic to the word "crowned" like portuguese is

[regal pulsar]

They should've known it would happen ever since Sukhavati and HAdes were referenced in Morpho Knight

[pearl fjord]

CORAGEM

[inner jetty]

i think we'd need a T rating to get less censorship

and even then

[pearl fjord]

ROYAL DOOMER

[valid locust]

forever mad at how they made crowned doomer "royal doomer" 💀

[inner jetty]

i doubt it would do much

[true heath]

i mean

[midnight heart]

the question was if point star placements are changed, I think this kinda counts?

[true heath]

shadow the hedgehog is rated e10

it has "damn"

so theoretically none of this needs to happen

[midnight heart]

one is story mode and one is ex mode (both in the same speedrun lmao)

[true heath]

noa are just cowards

[wild frost]

"Crowned Doomer" There's barely any crown in there Xd

[valid locust]

kirby is a kids game no religion allowed

[earnest sphinx]

I'm pretty sure Extra Mode even in the OG replaced most of the food though

[true heath]

less so than in the remake

[pearl fjord]

It'd make more sense if Kirby actually hit an E target consistently
But it like
FUCKING DOESN'T
SO NOA CAN YOU PLEASE JUST LET KIRBY HAVE E10+ TEXT

[true heath]

yeah exactly

[regal pulsar]

TRUE

[true heath]

its like they always WANT kirby to remain e but it never can because of gameplay elements they obviously cant censor

but text doesnt reflect that

kinda stupid

[wild frost]

ESRB and NoA, Kirby's true enemies

[valid locust]

actually if you read this nintendo dream interview the devs talk about they are making kirby more accessible to kids with things like helper magolor and spring breeze mode so you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[midnight heart]

I think we might be lacking context then

[true heath]

they are making them more accessible for videogame streamers

[wild frost]

Reminds me of those Mii Costume trailers where they replaced the game name with the character name lmfao

[valid locust]

SFKCSDKFVDGVDF

[true heath]

you got it all wrong gigi

[regal pulsar]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[exotic geode]

Kid's don't read pause text lore

[true heath]

people say kirby is a baby game then i watch streams of rtdl dx of grown men dying to the most basic puzzles

[plucky monolith]

I read them when I was a kid

[true heath]

don't underestimate kids

[limpid harbor]

same

[exotic geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920498813150593034/1082517574010548305/watermark.gif

this one perhaps?

[true heath]

one of them yeah

[pearl fjord]

Kumazaki make like Animal Crossing and just put famous nude statues in the background of the next game and then goes on an interview saying "People kept thinking Shiver Star or the new world were Earth, so there was a clear interest in Kirby fans in seeing Earth in the Kirby series. Therefore I decided to truly put Earth in Kirby through the Dusty Dump level in the new game"

[limpid harbor]

i remember reading sectonia soul's pause screen lore

[wild frost]

Me telling my future kid to pause on every Kirby boss to read the lore

[rugged slate]

And apperently they removed the fact that it's the same as grand doomer, but possessed by the master crown

[true heath]

idk if i count as a kid there but i did read pause descriptions when i was like 14-15 lol

[plucky monolith]

I remember reading some of RTDL's

the Special Pages or whatever

[true heath]

also reminder that kumazaki confirmed that pause screens are officially dead

[limpid harbor]

the theories i made to myself back then were so terrible

[true heath]

rest in pieces

[limpid harbor]

i thought i was spot on

[regal pulsar]

Good riddance! ❤️

[true heath]

so true

[regal pulsar]

Now content creators can actually rest

[true heath]

no they cant

figure lore time

[plucky monolith]

no more ability move names ingame rip

[regal pulsar]

AT LEAST THEY WONT MISS IT

[exotic geode]

Content Creators on their way to grind gachapon (Magolor scams them)

[regal pulsar]

[pearl fjord]

I got into pause screen lore with 3DX when I was 14
And I don't think the reason I didnt get into pause lore in RtDL was b/c I was too young, I think it was more so because they weren't on every boss so you were less likely to find out there were pause descriptions for certain bosses

[plucky monolith]

and no more multiple phase descriptions

[limpid harbor]

gahh i wish we still had pause screen movesets

[true heath]

i do wonder if they meant that those will be gone too or just ones that have story related text

[exotic geode]

Keep that at least

[limpid harbor]

i never really hated the pause screen lore but i see why someone would dislike it

[plucky monolith]

me when Chaos Elfilis doesn't have anything about 2nd phase stuff lmao

[wild frost]

Me upon reading "Susanna Patrya Haltmann" in Meta Knightmare Returns even tho it was painfully obvious

[exotic geode]

or they have a Treasure Road segment where they teach you how to use the ability

[true heath]

knowing kuma it probably wouldnt be much to begin with

[limpid harbor]

fr

[plucky monolith]

still could like name the forms ingame

[keen pelican]

Orb Form

[plucky monolith]

Core

[keen pelican]

Ball

[plucky monolith]

it's Core

[regal pulsar]

SlimeCore

[true heath]

but yeah while i dont want pause lore to stay, i think ability and moveset pause screens should come back

[regal pulsar]

Who here likes slimecore

[limpid harbor]

slightly off topic but back when i played PR i didnt really know what a clockwork star was so fighting one felt like battling a legend

[true heath]

FL nixing that entirely was kinda misguided

[dense iron]

I'm late on this but uh. FCC guidelines are drastically different from ESRB guidelines + the FCC was a lot less strict with bible stories being parodied on cable

at least back then

[plucky monolith]

only seen in filenames and novel
not even the damn guidebook

[wild frost]

Twas an excuse for them to reuse the traditional soul moves! /s

[plucky monolith]

hell Soul of Sectonia's Core isn't named outside files either lol

[plucky monolith]

don't think it would matter

[true heath]

makes sense i guess

[regal pulsar]

which part of SoS was named core?

[plucky monolith]

the 2nd

the one where she isn't in the flower

[regal pulsar]

ahhh ok

[wild frost]

Her floating head (with wings!)

[pearl fjord]

I think the biggest change they need to 'bring back' with figure description system is that
While its great you don't have to pause during the boss to read the lore you literally can't read the lore for the boss during or any time around the boss now
Like you fight gorimondo and by the time you get his figure you could be like in winter horns

[regal pulsar]

is that just

the full name

[plucky monolith]

yeah

[dense iron]

idk why I know about this shit....kid me was obsessed with this kind of stuff

[pearl fjord]

They should just give you the boss's figure for defeating the boss

[plucky monolith]

at least give us it right after the boss lmao

[true heath]

i feel like rtdl dx is already sorta adresses this

by how you unlock boss masks by beating them instantly

[plucky monolith]

but pausing to see them before you get them would be nice too

[true heath]

instead of them being random unlockables like the rest

so i think they realized that this was kinda Ehh

[pearl fjord]

True, just have to tie the descriptions to those now

[true heath]

yeah

[midnight heart]

I think I remember pausing for movesets back when I was younger, problem is I never did that in the middle of a boss fight that had lore

[true heath]

tbh i would never do it if i didnt learn those existed on the internet

i think this is my main problem with pause lore? game just doesnt give you any indication its THERE

and pausing during boss fights is the most unintuitive thing ever

[thin kindle]

Pause lore boowomp

[midnight heart]

like your parents interrupt you and oh shit lore??

[true heath]

like if game could nudge you a bit. "hey you can learn more about the boss if you take a break and pause during it!" or something

[thin kindle]

Kirby and the forgotten peak being awesome with figures which have even more information!!!!

[limpid harbor]

pausing for lore causes fun banter when playing with friends though so its a W for me

[true heath]

me when forgotten land actually explains everything in-game wow what a concept

[plucky monolith]

well most things lol

[true heath]

and its not super easy to miss because its tied to collectible that contributes to 100% and you can find on the levels

[thin kindle]

I remember pausing during the magolor sword thing cause I knew a pause screen was there and the people I were playing with were like "why did you do th- oh"

[true heath]

honestly

if they keep the idea of figures or figure-adjacent collectibles, i hope they drop whole "volume" idea

[plucky monolith]

like some Elfilin and ID-F86 stuff isn't said
and move names of course

[midnight heart]

do some kind of Super Paper Mario thing where you can have a character analyze any enemy and learn stats/strats/lore about them

[pearl fjord]

Honestly the pause screens on bosses are one thing but when they started adding pause descriptions to the fucking like

[true heath]

i think it hurt the pacing in the long run because most of the game had first volume of capsules scattered across levels

[pearl fjord]

To the fucking playable cutscenes basically

[true heath]

yeah that's lmao

[plucky monolith]

and obviously the written vocal Welcome to the New World lyrics lol

[true heath]

NO one in their right mind would pause during that

[pearl fjord]

Like ???? There's star dream screw pause description??? THere's a sectonia vine pause description???? There's a void beam struggle pause description???? Why????

[midnight heart]

like a lets player is live reacting like it's some episode of a cartoon and they pause like "hold up- oh wait shit lore??"

[plucky monolith]

I mean Sectonia Vine is sorta slow

[true heath]

yeah i wish some of this stuff was more transparent but honestly not sure how they would reveal boss attack names in-game tbh

[thin kindle]

I think the volumes were a little necessary though to gate off spoilers but in terms of the collectibles on the levels yeah it was weird that they're all volume 1 for a while

[plucky monolith]

put it in a book somewhere

[true heath]

here's the thing though

[thin kindle]

Would have made more sense to have the other volumes mixed in

[plucky monolith]

give a bestiary

[true heath]

why not just make spoilery ones to be tied to progression lol

[limpid harbor]

true tbh i didnt know the Magolor sword clash had pause screen lore until like days later

[true heath]

simple as that

[thin kindle]

Just like change the capsules

[true heath]

its not like you can unlock future boss mask in magoland by accident

[plucky monolith]

say the enemy names too, make cute descriptions

[thin kindle]

Well that's what the volumes are basically

[true heath]

yeah but volumes limit everything

not just spoilery ones

and spoilery ones are just as random as non spoilery ones!

so this system is just kind of flawed

[thin kindle]

Fair enough

[plucky monolith]

make it so you get entries by defeating them (for most of them)

[true heath]

honestly id like fi they went that approach next game

[earnest sphinx]

I'd like a kirb bestiary

[true heath]

but at the same time i like collectible aspect of lore gathering in FL too

maybe they can be combined somehow

[pearl fjord]

It turns into a pokedex

[plucky monolith]

can also have other collectibles
but idk what they would be at this point lol

[earnest sphinx]

kirbydex

[pearl fjord]

You get their name upon encountering one and the description after
Doing something else I dunno

[exotic geode]

Kirby should exclude all story from the game and put it in a tie-in Book.

[true heath]

i like collectibles having more meaning tbh

[thin kindle]

Yeah id like more stuff like figures

[exotic geode]

[true heath]

stuff like keychains and stickers were cute but figures were genuinely fun to collect

[earnest sphinx]

[thin kindle]

Over like a new paragraph you unlock by meeting some asshole

[limpid harbor]

if there's a kirby metroidvania they should pull a Hollow Knight with the pause screen lore

[plucky monolith]

we've had Keychains, Stickers, Figures (more than once), Character Treats, Celebration Pictures, Masks and other outfits

[true heath]

well if masks are any indication

they are open to the idea of older collectible returning lol

[terse gazelle]

Um

[limpid harbor]

like kill the enemy then learn their deal

[plucky monolith]

think bestiary would be cool to do at some point

[true heath]

even figures technically are nothing new, since they also were in rainbow curse

[thin kindle]

Ability hat stickers FR

[plucky monolith]

well I said more than once lol

[thin kindle]

Put stickers on your hat!!!!

Or buttons

[earnest sphinx]

except make the bestiary less stupid than the hunter's journal
hee hoo do the trial of the fool twice just to get the entry of one enemy that only spawns there

[plucky monolith]

really, the question is when do we get collectable plushies

[limpid harbor]

i haven't completed the hunter's journal yet lmao

[thin kindle]

No one alive has

[true heath]

wow..........

[limpid harbor]

i am contempt with my 109% completion

[true heath]

that's actually really cool idea lmao

[thin kindle]

If they say they do then they're lying

[true heath]

assuming kirby's house being part of the main hub in 3d games will be par for the course

or kirby's room at least idk

imagine if you can just

place them all over kirby's place

[earnest sphinx]

trial of the fool is why I have 111% completion lmfao

[plucky monolith]

or maybe we could get like origami figures at some point
or paintings

[true heath]

and of course they will have lore and it will be the most hilarious juxtaposition imaginable

[thin kindle]

Loreee!!!

[true heath]

kirby having a plush of some spoopy final boss

[limpid harbor]

lore on the back of the stickers

[plucky monolith]

give me plush of fecto forgo

[thin kindle]

I want the phantom Clawroline figure in real life

And the Leon and Carol one

[limpid harbor]

i like how the figures look so realistic fr

[true heath]

yeah

[limpid harbor]

when they're floating they've got like a stick to keep them in the air

[true heath]

unlike RC's ones, these are actually plausible

and i like how you can see briefly that each comes with a pahmphlet

so lore text also exists... in-universe, i guess

i wont think about it too hard

[thin kindle]

Don't ever think about the goofy collectibles that hard

[plucky monolith]

or maybe dioramas

[thin kindle]

I WILL point and laugh

[earnest sphinx]

I like the "kirby collects plushies" idea
he'd be just like me fr

[exotic geode]

Gimme Plushies as collectibles

and each plushies have lore

[terse gazelle]

The Poor Modeler Being Forced To Turn A Physic-Defying Incomprehensible Being From The Astral Plane Into An Actual Plushie

[true heath]

honestly though

maybe they can play around with concept of making collectibles more relevant to the setting or story

[exotic geode]

anything can be a marketable plushie

[true heath]

like they are still fun side-distractions not required for anything but less random i guess

[valid locust]

#kirby-kingdom moment

[true heath]

😭 it STARTED as using masks as a positive example

in how they were unlocked

then my train of thought got derailed rip

[terse gazelle]

Hm

What If They Did Statues

And They Were In This Big Fancy Gallery You Can Walk Around

[true heath]

magoland kinda did that didnt it

would like to see more of that though lol

[wild frost]

How does Magolor resist the urge to bust a move when he enters an Ordeal Door

[terse gazelle]

Oh

Good LORD What Are These Related Images

[valid locust]

cries in portuguese translation

[terse gazelle]

The Next Subjugation

[wispy crypt]

"Parallel dimension"

[fiery veldt]

OH NO

[hot lotus]

does kirby consider dark meta knight a friend

no offense but im not sure if he deserves a statue in a theme park thats whole theme is redemption.

[inner jetty]

what bothers me is that they aren't consistent in what renders they choose to use

Susie's is like

not even her render

its her summon animation

[midnight heart]

yeah that got me thinking

[valid locust]

yeah in cases like this I feel shadow kirby would be more appropriate even if he isn't exactly redeemed either

as the dream friend of AM I mean

[midnight heart]

what would his moveset be though.. Gooey 2.0, but the lore - I dunno if I'd prefer having that much groundbroken compared to having a shady ally (it would probably be more interesting, at least)

[valid locust]

I know some people suggested like gooey yeah, like using AM abilities

[inner jetty]

i think Shadow Kirby would probably just use the Master sword from AM

[midnight heart]

Hal writing in some reassurance that the moveset is just for the sake of game play:

[earnest sphinx]

cupid real??

[inner jetty]

either that or just be like a P234 Kirby

[midnight heart]

something like that might be cool

[inner jetty]

but that would be difficult to code wouldn't it

even if it was basically just a pallete swap

[midnight heart]

see I think Gooey would've been this if-

like all the other Dream Friends have cool move sets, I'm glad Gooey isn't Kirby 2.0 personally

[inner jetty]

not just for the sake of being a pallete swap, there would be a lot of different graphical effects going around and it would probably tank the performance with all these abilities being used at their full potential

which already happens with regular friends but having 4 kirbys would make the complexity add up

because even characters like Burning Leo and Plugg don't have the graphical effects of their copy ability hat show up so there's less strain with multiple characters

[midnight heart]

overall though I feel like what we got is more fun gameplay wise than what they could come up with for Shadow Kirby- partially because Gooey already existed, and also because I can't really imagine what other moveset Shadow Kirby would have...

ignoring my preferred interpretation of the Master Sword and Galaxia being the same, Master Sword Shadow Kirby sounds like the best idea so far

[midnight heart]

anyway, huh, i guess the themeparks whole theme IS redemption. Magolor obviously makes it (or has made other themeparks) as an apology, but also every boss you fight in Story Mode shows up there

though whether they're actually from main story Pop Star or from the future world where Magoland exists is up for debate.. probably the latter, given Landia's appearance with the Master Crown fully intact vs the existence of the epilogue where it's shattered

[valid locust]

let him cook. let him cook. (legit I want more approaches like this in future games and I think kumazaki does too)

[earnest sphinx]

In-universe kirby encyclopedia reaaaal???

[rugged slate]

Like the kirby 64 one?

[hushed pine]

I was playing with Helper Magolor with my sister. I did not realize Magolor saves you from every single pit

I thought it was only every once in a while

[ripe mulch]

Lol yeah, you can just keep jumping in

[valid locust]

magolor literally carries you through the game

[ripe mulch]

This is from the demo, but whatever. You can literally jump out of his hands back into the pit and he'll still go get you
https://fxtwitter.com/Yirggzmb/status/1623905932525867008?t=X9ccYFa0QHGGu1bxFqI97Q&s=19

[valid locust]

lol

[regal pulsar]

maybe this is why Magolor betrays you

[ripe mulch]

Also if you're playing multiplayer and more than one player falls in, he'll physically grab one and the rest will teleport to that person. If everyone falls in you end up with Magolor just holding everyone. It's so silly

[ripe mulch]

Definitely why he betrayed me anyway.

[earnest sphinx]

LOL

he betrayed me because I kept poking him to chat and see all his dialogue

[sturdy ore]

The average american cannot digest religious references ig

Country founded by puritans moment

[sacred mango]

god they should have done this though

I still think remakes should be a good time to rethink a little bit of conventions in the modern day

but I understand the point of view

but they could have done little changes

if the condition to get the encyclopedia is just "finish every mode" I'd do it

and it would just be a collection of special pages

and i'd be fine with that

[uncut siren]

Once again showing off my concepts for ex variants of the Epilogue bosses

[silk frost]

I'd make crowned doomer look like one of those butterflies or moths that has eye patterns on its wings

I'd probably give master crown ex an autumn color scheme, make rampaging doomers ex look more like the ex variants of main mode's sphere doomers and maybe give them grand doomer or grand doomer ex colors

I don't understand the electricky dooter and hydriath ones

[willow mulch]

Maybe make master crown color be the same as the one in the magolor soul fight where it looks like a skeleton like color

[silk frost]

YES

Autumn colors with a silver crown

[valid locust]

I think this is my favorite part of the interview so far

(laughs)

[sacred mango]

(laughs)

Ws in Kumazaki

[exotic geode]

Kumazaki can write very fast...

and he wrote them in less than an hour?

For the Boss Pause screen?

[ripe mulch]

He's probably been half thinking about how he'd write these descriptions for the last 12 years. Finally gets the chance and the words just flew

[valid locust]

watanabe is just saying that something he would take a day to write, kumazaki can write in less than one hour, not that he wrote all new text in less than one hour

[exotic geode]

oh

So Kumazaki is a fast writer

[valid locust]

yes

[sacred mango]

Kumazaki is always ready to answer Kirby lore questions

even when journalists are asking completely silly questions

[exotic geode]

like the Kirby Hot Guy question

[sour nexus]

Yes

[random pine]

yggy crown

the bombs it makes are cherries

[silk frost]

tbh I forgot yggy existed

[random pine]

im one of the 3 star allies fans

i never forgot the old man tree

[sturdy ore]

There are a lot of us

[silk frost]

the sa bosses that aren't the major ones aren't very memorable

[hardy rapids]

i remember all of the@

there’s whispy the raccoon and fox thing yiggy francisca flamberge zan partizan hyness

there was like only 1 or 2 i missed

i’m not counting ones that don’t originate from allie’s

except whispy

because everyone likes whispy

[silk frost]

dedede, meta knight, redd from animal crossing and the other guy, mage sisters, yggy, whispy and kracko are there somewhere, hyness, void

oh there's the one you fight with the friend star

[ripe mulch]

Grand Mam

[undone falcon]

this is the best i can do

mann

[uncut flume]

Bruh

I freaking tied with this piece of shit like 20 times in a row

16 frame reactions are hard

[scarlet sierra]

Bro is flabbergasted

[midnight heart]

Am I weird for thinking Kirby looks cuter with eyebrows?

[wispy crypt]

Kumazaki WiKirby confirmed

[void blaze]

a beastiary would be awesome

so you can read the description immediately after the fight rather than having to buy gachas lol

tho I'll gladly accept the return of fl's system

[limpid harbor]

hollow knight hunter's journal

[ripe mulch]

You could also do a sorta Pokedex thing and have names or even brief descriptions of random level enemies as you encounter them

[royal gulch]

Kirby bestiary: Kill x amount of waddle dees to learn about waddle dees

[limpid harbor]

sounds fun tbh

[void blaze]

ooh yeah that would be fun

was either epic yarn or rainbow curse or both that had something like this

[candid bolt]

noooo not the legends arceus strat😔

[ripe mulch]

I just want there to be ways in the games learn enemy names again. I feel like it's been a while

[limpid harbor]

i dont even know what those FL bird guys are called

[royal gulch]

Scum

[limpid harbor]

fair

[ripe mulch]

I think I've seen both Clocker and Crocker, R/L and all that

[uncut siren]

Hydriath has poison water colors

[uncut siren]

So here’s an explanation

E. Dooter: I ran out of ideas so pink and yellow color scheme

Fiery Puffer: Blue flames

Hydriath: Poison water

R. Doomers: I was gonna give them the one eye from the ex Doomers but I didn’t know how to with my editing system

C. Doomer: I tried not to go overboard

Crown: Burnt tree, tried to give it a dark matter vibe

[uncut siren]

I tried to do that

Bcuz silver crown

Also, the Crown is basically a similar manner to Chaos Elfilis

[pearl fjord]

Me when I modify something that I thought would be innocuous and my entire switch crashes

hm actually maybe my switch just crashed for unrelated reasons

[spare smelt]

my hungry ass thought this was a taco

[terse gazelle]

Bro so hungry they mistook food for food

[ripe mulch]

Collecting magic tacos to regain your magic powers would be really cool ngl

[valid locust]

[limpid harbor]

my hungry ass could not last trapped in a realm between dimensions 🤪 🤪

[pearl fjord]

I keep making magolor soul worse and I keep wanting more

If i could only buff his hp

[odd rampart]

nerf every ability's power to Magolor-Epilogue-weak :^)

[hidden dock]

my friend called it an egg for some reason

[pearl fjord]

Oh

[odd rampart]

maybe theyre referring the Tamagolor

[pearl fjord]

That's not what I expected to happen

Jumpscare

[regal pulsar]

GAH

[pearl fjord]

Well this is
Interesting ig but the orbs don't spawn in useful places for this to actually be dangerous

[regal pulsar]

Faye you better not be making another Unfair

[limpid harbor]

t pose of another dimension

[regal pulsar]

WHAT IS THIS

[pearl fjord]

I'm making a sequel to this mod basically
Wait have you ever seen this
https://youtu.be/EXs6-lvS6wE

[wispy crypt]

Unfair Magolor Soul EX

[regal pulsar]

OH just glimpses of it

i can tell it looked horrible

[spare smelt]

headcanon: RTDL is just a really bad dream that happened after Magolor ate too many tacos before bed

[limpid harbor]

t pose saga continues

[odd rampart]

do th emage sisters t-pose when they get sent into the sky

and by mage isters i mean Fran/Flam

[sour nexus]

Waiting for the T Pose Fecto Elfilis mod

[pearl fjord]

Wait huh there's shader param animations on the story mode model
The ex model file doesn't have those, I wonder if it uses the ones from the base game file or if those are just unused or something

[sour nexus]

Unused

[pearl fjord]

Maybe those shader params on the base game file are why his eye is still animating sometimes when he's otherwise tposing

[sour nexus]

It's definitely a shader yeah

Or the eye is a separate model

[scarlet sierra]

The main eye or the fake eyes

[sour nexus]

Yeah looking at it it's possible for his eye to be seperate from his body

[pearl fjord]

The eyeball
You can see it shift around in the video above for some attacks even though the rest of him is tposing

[sour nexus]

Yeah

It's a seperate model

[scarlet sierra]

It is a separate model

I've dabbled with mag soul's Wii model

[sour nexus]

You have to make his eye tpose

[plucky monolith]

separate mesh or whatever
technically same model file

stuff like his eyes and body are separate too

[sour nexus]

Yep

[plucky monolith]

orb

[scarlet sierra]

It being a separate mesh allows it to move around in the mouth

[sour nexus]

Wonder if Zero Two is also seperate

[scarlet sierra]

The Pupil is probably seperate

[sour nexus]

@pearl fjord it's indeed a seperate model

[scarlet sierra]

I don't think the eye itself is

[plucky monolith]

she knows

[sour nexus]

Ah okay

[plucky monolith]

she's messed with the model herself lol

[limpid harbor]

master crown shoved an eye into magolor's body

[sour nexus]

So basically you have to make the eye tpose

[plucky monolith]

hence why we have bald Magolor Soul here

[scarlet sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-bald-head-shiny-bald-head-sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-5333334

[limpid harbor]

lmfao

[plucky monolith]

but yeah lot of things on models are 'separate'

[sour nexus]

Yeah like weapons

[scarlet sierra]

Like the crown spiral surrounding the horns and the horns themselves

Are different meshes,

[plucky monolith]

well 'weapons' are usually entire other models in a different folder all together lol

[sour nexus]

True

[plucky monolith]

think there's a few that are same model, only one I can think of is for like Sectonia's rods and swords maybe

[scarlet sierra]

D mind

[sour nexus]

Fecto Elfilis spear is seperate

[scarlet sierra]

King D mind

[plucky monolith]

oh yeah lol

[scarlet sierra]

And I think shadow dedede?

[plucky monolith]

the funny

axe hammer

[sour nexus]

And all the weapons Kirby uses should be seperate

[scarlet sierra]

What does magsoul look like without the eye, lemme see

[limpid harbor]

bro is bald

[dense iron]

I literally never noticed this until I joined the server

[plucky monolith]

Faye posted it before (also without the crown)

[craggy lance]

scary..

WAIT

BALD

POINTS

[regal pulsar]

ball

[scarlet sierra]

It's so cursed

[regal pulsar]

ive said it before and ill say it again

literally just magolor soul

[limpid harbor]

wtf real

[scarlet sierra]

Now what happens if we open up magolor's eye all the way

[thin kindle]

i thought getting 3 ties in a row was rough jesus christ

[limpid harbor]

literally zero 3

[thin kindle]

this is where true arena soul ended up!!!!!!!!

[plucky monolith]

probably seen it before but

[thin kindle]

WTF ZERO AAAAAAA

[scarlet sierra]

Holy shit

[regal pulsar]

HOLY FUCK

[thin kindle]

the beast of the night peering through my closet door when i turn on the light

[scarlet sierra]

Nah this is horrific

[regal pulsar]

imagine, phase 3, the single droopy connection splits and returns to the main body

before the eye can freely open itself fully

[scarlet sierra]

<--- Phase 4

[random pine]

ah, the rouxls kaard mouth

[somber cape]

why do magolor epilogue bosses have so little hp

[regal pulsar]

playing true arena?

[somber cape]

it's pretty bad in the actual story too but made way worse in the true arena

[plucky monolith]

they're more adjusted to Magolor and stuff
and they probably did not want it to be overwhelming

[regal pulsar]

It was supposedly balanced for Magolor I think

[somber cape]

don't they have even less hp than the ex bosses or smth

[plucky monolith]

most of them yeah

[regal pulsar]

i mean totally fair. theres like. 21 bosses u have to go through lol

[plucky monolith]

some with more than one bar lol

[regal pulsar]

yeah

[wicked wolf]

[somber cape]

also hot take: i dislike the mid bosses in this game

they go down immediately and almost none of their attacks pose a threat

another thing is that some of them are the least inspired bosses i've ever seen cough moundo

[royal gulch]

Yeah the damage is kinda busted sometimes

[somber cape]

sorry for this sudden onslaught of negativity i still think the game is great overall

[royal gulch]

I still don't like how they downgraded certain moves though

[somber cape]

they... downgraded moves?

like from the original?

[royal gulch]

By downgrade I mean strip them of their invincibility frames

[plucky monolith]

only one I can really think of is Hammer

[somber cape]

oh i didn't even know they did that

invincibility frames they so desperately needed clearly

[plucky monolith]

which moves? I know a lot did not have invincibility in original

[royal gulch]

Or at least, the stuff that they didn't carry over from star allies

Hold on lemme see if Spear's Moondrop has invincibility

[earnest sphinx]

it absolutely does not

[plucky monolith]

yeah that was not in original

only a thing with TDX iirc

[somber cape]

did they buff bosses other than galacta knight

[earnest sphinx]

rtdl moon drop is about as useful as the top spin from mega man, especially against bosses

[plucky monolith]

well most bosses have increased HP
only other moveset change I can think of is for HR-D3

[somber cape]

did they give him laser fire too

[plucky monolith]

yeah

[somber cape]

damn i wonder why they decided to change only that

i saw the galacta knight fire and thought it would be cool if they gave the ex bosses a little extra boost

[plucky monolith]

I think HR-D3's spinning is faster too but idk if it changes anything

[royal gulch]

Ok so moon drop on star allies has invincibility frames

But for some stupid reason, the remake decided that the invicibility frames should only activate at the start and END of the move

[plucky monolith]

how does it work in original

[royal gulch]

But the actual dropping part does not make you invincible, making it an unneccessarily risky move against bosses

Idk about the original because I was assuming they would carry over the buffs and changes from the most recent 2D mainline into here

Sword's down attack suffers from this same issue btw

Even though Star Allies gave you invincibility until the end

Ok there is some startup invincibility, but it will run out if you're a bit high enough

Anyways speaking of busted damage, I still think the damage from simply touching a boss is way too much

[pearl fjord]

Is this better

Mfw mouse on screen

[somber cape]

holy cow you did it

you fixed the game

[pearl fjord]

Really wish I couuld give them more HP

[regal pulsar]

remilia found

[pearl fjord]

Actually also this cursor is constantly animated

Whack that it like

captures the cursor but its frozen

[regal pulsar]

frozen in time

[pearl fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sakuya-izayoi-touhou-timestop-touhou-luna-nights-gif-22177720

[mint ruin]

True arena successful run NO ABILITY

True arena ||Magolor Soul|| is SO FUN with no abilities

[regal pulsar]

WOOOO

GJ

[mint ruin]

Another W for the self proclaimed anti cheese enjoyer

[mint ruin]

I GENUINELY thought I wouldn’t be skilled enough to pull it off

[void blaze]

ayy lfg

magolor seems like a boss that's very conducive for no ability but still worth his salt

galacta seems like he would suck to fight lol

[silk frost]

I failed to get my ability back fighting regular magolor soul in extra mode and so I spent at least half the fighr abilityless and I did not get a single hit in that entire time

[mint ruin]

Galacta was EASILY the hardest yeah

[void blaze]

knight fights suck abilityless. I remember playing through am with no ability and dmk I flat out couldn't get past until someone told me how his ai works

tho fl's knight fights are surprisingly easy abilityless. they feel much more predictable

[mint ruin]

Honestly I feel like the boss pacing is better with no ability

Lets you see all their attacks

[silk frost]

That one attack in fl meta's fight where if you have sword it goes to a buttonmashing segments drops an absurd number of stars if you have no ability

[ripe mulch]

Yeah, this is one of the reasons I love playing that way

[mint ruin]

The fight against the true arena version of ||Magolor Soul|| was AWESOME

No abilities makes it last longer, AND feel more satisfying

[silk frost]

Like it's actually insane how many it drops, probably more than enough to oneshot a miniboss if you managed to inhale them all somehow

[ripe mulch]

You can get a lot of them, but I don't know if you can get all of them. Definitely great though

[mint ruin]

The ||Rampaging Doomers|| were also pretty tough without abilities

[silk frost]

Most likely impossible

[void blaze]

ohhhh I love getting a big inhale there

also yeah doing abilityless was the only reason I ever saw forgo dedede's beast summoning and inhale moves lol

[ripe mulch]

I grew up with Adventure where one hit meant you lost your ability. I kinda just developed a habit of not bothering with abilities for boss fights, except maybe Whispy. I'm realizing that I still do that by default lol Maybe not for arenas and stuff unless I really enjoy them, but just finding it easier to focus on what's going on when I have to wait for bosses to drop projectiles for me

[mint ruin]

Abilityless is honestly a based af playstyle

[ripe mulch]

It's fun

[inner jetty]

it took only 6 years but we finally got it

[wicked wolf]

Y'all help

Everytime I listen to Mistilteinn and the Clash motif pops up

I first think of https://fxtwitter.com/doodletrash01/status/1616936920919179264

[earnest sphinx]

LOL

[inner jetty]

honestly somehow i end up preferring the motif as used in Crossing the Parallel

maybe because its more triumphant

[regal pulsar]

HOLY SHIT...

[inner jetty]

in Mistilteinn its just sorta uhhhh there and it feels like if Roche Limit didn't have a phase 3 that made everything more intense

[brazen laurel]

I just kinda wish settling the score was part of it

Because that song is actually amazing and better than the rest of those kinda of tracks but its still obviously super short

[pearl fjord]

Holy shit I think I accidentally made Magolor Soul the most

The most fight ever

Ok wait I don't really fully understand whats going on yet brb

[regal pulsar]

[pearl fjord]

God there's so many like

Variables to this

His

His kill needles

deadly needles right

funny english

anyway

There's like

his animation for summoning the needles

There's like the animation file for the needle itself

and there's like the animation for the warp hole the needle comes out of

god

Ah ok I finally understand what's happening lol

Basically by deleting more animation files than I did before I actually fixed an attack that had stopped working

I guess maybe because now the timing (Or lack thereof) for when the attack happens is consistent between the files now lol

[sour nexus]

I would love to see the mod become final

Amazing work you do there Faye

[sour nexus]

Assuming this is how you make him attack faster as it removes his animations

[pearl fjord]

Yea basically not having animations tends to mean they attack faster

[sour nexus]

Yeah it works but the problem is that if you remove to many of them something will break

[regal pulsar]

Which I'm p sure Faye has already figured out

[sour nexus]

Okay

I'm just saying

[tribal pivot]

I wonder what is the Japanese version of Magolor's quotes where he says everyone is his "easy target" only to be cut short and say "easygoing folks" instead lol /curious

[regal pulsar]

ugh, i dont remember a single keyword that could help me find the exact translation lol.

wasted minutes looking for it

but queen ultrby has explained it before

[tribal pivot]

Oof

[sour nexus]

Lol what

[hot lotus]

didnt realize that was in response to a message posted 2 hours ago lol

[tribal pivot]

Where

[hot lotus]

i was originally responding to this with "calling wikirby 'the wikirby' is like calling miiverse 'the miiverse'"

[pearl fjord]

Wait actually

Can I set boss health

[sour nexus]

You would have to change the boss HP directly

Not sure how you would be able to do it though

It's a random access value

The game pulls it when it needs it

The HP for bosses is stored in code

[sour nexus]

To make a new boss health bar or to modify an existing one?

[pearl fjord]

🤷

Oh hey landia and grand doomer are only locked to the end of the 10 in true arena

[sour nexus]

Interesting

I think it's because Landia and Grand Doomer share the same value from their specific game mode

[tawdry depot]

i had a feeling about this because every true arena run i did, they would always be the last of the EX bosses

[sour nexus]

Yeah they share the same ID number I think

Either that or they are programmed to always be the last ones you fight

[ripe mulch]

Nothing to see here

[wispy crypt]

KIRBY COMMITTED ARSON

NOOOOOOOOO

[terse gazelle]

poyo.

[limber vessel]

average day

[plucky monolith]

キミみたいな　おひとよ… イヤイヤ、シンセツな人が　いるナンテネ。
he cuts off on saying おひとよし
which means like a person who takes everything in good faith and is easily taken advantage of
note this line was not changed from original in JP

[delicate dew]

what about other languages

[thin kindle]

i like that the Magolor Soul true arena description is just like "Lmao Kirby you should totally beat me so i can mess with you" while meanwhile Kirby is fighting for his life

youre just soooooooooooo kind Magolor

[wispy crypt]

Can I just vent about one thing

Can HAL please remove that feature where if you take damage you lose your ability

[regal pulsar]

🥺

youve been ending traditions here and there HAL

so be generous and do us a favor

[wispy crypt]

Water Galboros and Dubior, I fought them with Tornado

And then I dropped the ability because I took damage

AND THEN I TRIED TO SWALLOW THE STAR TO GET IT BACK

AND I INHALED FUCKING WATER GALBOROS AND LOST TORNADO BECAUSE I GOT WATER INSTEAD

BRUH this game's turning into a fucking rage game and I don't like this

I'm like about to fucking seethe so hard over seeing Kirby get rapidly hurt and hurt

[random pine]

please remove contact damage unless the boss is explicitly covered in spikes and/or poison

[silk frost]

True

[limpid harbor]

yeah i dont really like contact damage on bosses in general

why so many games still do this 😭

[silk frost]

Imagine if whispy woods did contact damage

[wispy crypt]

Please don't

[honest yarrow]

his nose did in DL2 iirc?

[silk frost]

Why

[honest yarrow]

I don't remember if his nose still did in DL3

anyway it's Shimomura Kirby only

[plucky monolith]

it's pointy and sharp

[wispy crypt]

I'M DOING IT

NOOOOO I DIED ON MAGOLOR SOUL

I was trying to do a No Souvenir Items run and HE DESTROYED ALL MY HP WITH THE FUCKING FLARE BEAM

HOW THE FUCK DO I EVEN DODGE THAT SHIT

I'M ABOUT TO FUCKING DO THE GREEN MISSILE ONTO MY BED RN

[regal pulsar]

oh yeah flare beam i still dont know how one can just dodge that perfectly without relying on luck

[mint notch]

Oh yeah, that flare beam with the three orbs is absolute bs

Sometimes you just have to suck it up and take a hit, I know it’s a true final boss and all but that part is too cheap

[wispy crypt]

This thing fucking took away my full HP

Like, I was already down to red here

[mint notch]

I remember someone bought this up before but this ta is way too long for the few healing items and more relies on tedious health management

[wispy crypt]

I was panicking and now I got too greedy and tried to unleash Tornado during the upsidedown Grand Snow Hammer attack

Death

But before the death animation could play I just decided to suspend the game and shut down my Switch

Just so this shameful record of mine won't save

[mint notch]

I usually try to my ta runs with minimal guarding but I’ll make an exception for this because is just too tedious when it comes to not making any mistakes and managing health, I feel it’s at least somewhat justified for giving no extra health items

[regal pulsar]

Literally the one dumb attack

[mint notch]

Also sometime if you try and guard some multi-hitting attacks the chip damage adds up and deals more than what it normally would have so sometimes you need to take a hit unguarded for the i-frames

[wispy crypt]

Hey I tried guarding exactly that

[mint notch]

I first noticed it when it tried to guard against some of fiery puffers rolling attacks and I quickly realised the mistake I made

[pearl fjord]

Huh I actually thought his flare beam was easier to dodge in the new true arena fight

Like obviously it's going to be surprising the first time you see it but I feel like it's actually a more consistent attack than it was before

Magolor always goes towards you and up while the other two balls both go away from you and down

so you just go under Magolor and then go over to the other side of the screen by jumping over the other two balls or else they will corner when they come back to your side of the screen

[regal pulsar]

Yeah, it's the fact that they corner you. Cool to know though

[wispy crypt]

Tbh Kirby's hover is way too slow for these kinds of situations

[pearl fjord]

Yea the cornering you thing is devious because there's absolutely no way someone playing blind is going to realize that will happen

When you see it coming you're already in the wrong position to be able to escape it

[exotic geode]

Abuse Sand ability?

[pearl fjord]

But yea Magolor Soul fight if it was good

[wispy crypt]

No I'm playing with Tornado

[limpid harbor]

this is pretty much how i remember it going down

[exotic geode]

T posing Magolor?

[scarlet sierra]

Wtf the music doesn't change

[pearl fjord]

He also doesn't give you an apple

And believe me if you do phase 1 with no ability you're going to be crying about the lack of that apple

[wispy crypt]

I'm gonna do it again with Spotify and Kson's stream on

[pearl fjord]

Honestly ridiculous dedede can just eat half of phase 1's health during the laser attack

[dense iron]

Keep it

[limpid harbor]

the unfair magolor soul mod song would fit

[dense iron]

Simply do not take damage

[mint ruin]

So true

[mint notch]

Lmao, those Mecha cannons

[dense iron]

ALSO auto swallow exists so you don't accidentally spit it out

[pearl fjord]

You do not know how tempted I was to just make the lasers literally cover the entire screen and be an undodgeable attack

[dense iron]

I personally keep it off tho...

[midnight heart]

What happens to his eyes in the second phase is pretty interesting

[dense iron]

Cause like you said before you can accidentally swallow an ability you don't want

Whenever I accidentally get an ability

I grab my old one

Discard the new one

Throw the old one

[pearl fjord]

I'm goin to replace the texture for his eyes with a T.

[dense iron]

and inhale

[dense iron]

So real for this

[mint ruin]

The new Magolor Soul fight is my new favorite Kirby boss fight

[limpid harbor]

this is gonna be the greatest fight of all time

[midnight heart]

Like the way they fade in and out just looks cool

I wonder why they do that

[pearl fjord]

You haven't even seen his Another Dimension attack

It's great you won't see it coming

[scarlet sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/closing-lots-of-doors-cartoon-closing-door-gif-19042773

Like this?

[pearl fjord]

exactly

[limpid harbor]

this truly is a dream battle

[warm sun]

What a Dream Door!

[mint ruin]

God the original fight already looks like something you’d find in a romhack. This is just overkill, and I love it.

[limpid harbor]

the TA magolor soul pulling out the mecha canons legit looks like a fake leak but its real

[pearl fjord]

It's strange they didn't recolor the cannons to fit magolor soul considering all his original super abilities were recolored

[mint ruin]

I love watching people’s reactions to it

[pearl fjord]

Well at least the things he shoots are recolored but its strange the cannons themselves aren't

[mint ruin]

Crafty is one of the few commentators I’ve seen that beat the TA without cheese

[mint ruin]

His reaction is great.

“The fight is the same, right?”

Cue double Magolor Cannon

“WAIT WHAT?!”

[thin kindle]

see they can keep this just bring back the SMEX system

this is why smex is the best true arena

[sturdy ore]

I had a dream where I beat the True Arena no abilities no items no amiibo

Weird thing to dream about

[thin kindle]

gamer dreaming

[limpid harbor]

thats when you know you're a kirby master

[thin kindle]

ermmmm actually THIS is how you know youre a kirby master

[limpid harbor]

the smex master

[thin kindle]

the smex king

[dense iron]

So true bestie...

[dense iron]

The ULTIMATE SEX MASTER ‼️

[thin kindle]

TREU TREU TRUE

[dense iron]

I'm planning on doing that this summer

[thin kindle]

based

[dense iron]

Its on my funny bucket list!!!

[thin kindle]

this is where most of my star allies hours come from LMFAO

[limpid harbor]

true kirby master bucket list

[dense iron]

Should I add mass attack to the 300% list

[thin kindle]

yes

[limpid harbor]

thats insane asylum level shit

[dense iron]

Me in a few months

I'm already going apeshit 100%ing super clash...

So much grinding 😭

[royal forge]

What-

[pearl fjord]

Ok I couldn't record my switch at the moment but I quickly recreated the mod on my computer for ryujinx to show the AD attack

Wait this is the wrong video

There we go

[wispy crypt]

AAAAAA YAAAAY LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!1!1!1!1!1!1

I DID THE TRUE ARENA WITHOUT SOUVENIR ITEMS!!!!!!

I'M SO FUCKING HAAPPYYYYYYYYYY

[thin kindle]

ermmmm W

[pearl fjord]

Lowkey this was like the easiest pattern I've ever seen it do I wonder if I can like
Delete certain versions of the attack

[wispy crypt]

Random but here's the results of my Spotify listening session while doing the True Arena

[wispy crypt]

I followed your advice for the Magolor Soul Flare Beam attack and I SURVIVED WITH JUST MINIMAL DAMAGE

[limpid harbor]

simply give me sand and i got this

[pearl fjord]

Bosses just don't got enough health 💀

[mint ruin]

Same for me except it wasn’t a dream 😎

[regal pulsar]

WOOOOOOO

GJ CYON

U DESERVE IT

[mint ruin]

Also major congrats!

[wispy crypt]

THAAAAAAAANKSSS

[hot lotus]

is the magoland mask technically galacta knight’s first canonical appearance (not counting skc)

[dense iron]

Erm what weapon did you use...

Congrats all the same tho

[wispy crypt]

Tornado ez

[valid locust]

scope shot lore

[odd rampart]

i mean why else would those subgames be there lol

[dense iron]

GRAAAAH KUMAZAKI MAKE SCOPE SHOT DELUXE

YOU OWE IT TO US...

[valid locust]

I don't think we got direct confirmation also this is a meme about scope shot

[odd rampart]

expected response

[valid locust]

I think this is the only time scope shot is mentioned in the interview lol

[odd rampart]

so do they answer the "in Dream Land" part

[regal pulsar]

Well never know

[valid locust]

so far no lol but I'm not done with this part yet

but iirc at the end he goes the whole "this is an AU lol"

[dense iron]

an AU where scope shot doesn't exist....

[odd rampart]

expected response

[dense iron]

I am a robot...

Beep boop

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-magolor-kirby-kirby-cry-about-it-gif-25023304

[thin kindle]

Rtdx lore

So the list of things altered by a waddle dee coming to the past are

• Disney
• no scope shot
• dedede has a good design

[dense iron]

Worst future...

[exotic geode]

Souvenir Waddle Dee:

[odd rampart]

this is the KSA model right

[exotic geode]

I dunno. Just see it in a gif

[thin kindle]

Magolor going to the past again to stop future magolor from sending a waddle dee to the past (he must save scope shot)

[dense iron]

No its the dedede's drum dash deluxe model

Sorry for ping i thought it turned it off

I hate mobile

[thin kindle]

@MPS6

[dense iron]

But yes its the ksa model

[exotic geode]

Kirby teams up with Clash Kirbys, Samurai Kirby, Dreamy Gear Kirby, and other AU Kirby to stop Magolor

[dense iron]

Any other model would have very noticeable artifacts

[plucky monolith]

RTDL iirc, pretty sure that video is old

[dense iron]

I remember seeing it in around 2018 though...

But you may be right

[plucky monolith]

Star Allies's is pretty different

[dense iron]

Well I trust you then lol

You've been in the fandom a lot longer than me

[valid locust]

the original video is over 7 years old I think

[dense iron]

Yeesh

That long?