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This is genuinely like, 6× better than what we had
We're sitting in a community where the top bl2 gun reviewer was a zer0 main
I'd rather a person be known as "the zer0 guy", "the gaige guy", "the axton guy", and then them give their input on certain gear, then you can take that nuance and use it yourself
Read above
Was or is?
Garnet Anarchist is kinda the zer0 guy, and in modern day, the item reveiwer
Previously was MoLMF, may that guy rest is piss
Man of Low Moral fiber
Yeah, may he rest in piss
Garnet Anarchist is better, He's more honest, but the problem for me is we have no Krieg mains and they didn't review guns.
Killer six plays gunzerker, the most boring character in bl2
He did reviews too and they're awful
MrTX01
The krieg guy
Doesn't review gear
Nothing like Garnet or MoLMF
Dude and Vynilic Puma is a meme
Holy fuck I hate that guy
"Sledges shotgun is bad gais"
🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓
VPG,JD139,K6,MoLMF,Bahroo
All kinda suck on information
Bahroos good
uses jolly roger with violent intente
It's one of the best
Holdon let me grab the list we worked on
From efforts of garnet, me, mrtx, axtonboi, stereolotus77, rokar and a few others we made a list 
What revenue
Yep
Damn
Also, there literally is none
There's 2.5 amara people, and i'm pretty sure 0.5 of them don't play this game, and idk where or what swan is up to nowadays
So, 
None of us do yt
He hates it because the hydra is technically better and he had vert grip carnages and vertical grip butchers
He'd be biased based on the fact it's just a quest reward
Hydra got a normalised rank of A, specifically "Slightly Above Average of the A tier"
It's a very good gun
A tier is like, one of the best weapons. I'd rank most really good things as A tier.
S tier is only for broken stuff like the bee and the sandhawk imo
Yes
Interfacer
Correct
Etc
I wouldn't say hyda is better because roger can get elements
I miss the forums
They were much better for discussion
We also lost the Top Gear threads
We just lost a lot in general.
Now I can't find any content for what weapons are good on Jack in tps
The docs have a gear list per character
It's really pissing me off
All of them
Unfortunately we recently lost the one guy in this server i knew of that liked tps
"recently" - like 6 months ago
Whats your favorite Jakobs in the series
Right now I use the Elephant Gun a lot on Axton.
Probably Ionic Disruptor
I only played up to TPS.
Tps is a great game
It's alright, I don't think it's amazing
I'm only playing it rn bc I don't have the dlc for 2 and I don't wanna install the 300 gigs of bl3
It's more the fun than being actually good. 99% of what I use is Jakobs and my builds are not top tier, but I have fun, so it does not matter to me.
I thought you'd just say the Maggie
Bummer
Maggie I would recommend for how easy it is to get, ease of use, and not really having much in the lines of downsides. Preferably with Dastardy, Straight Shootin', or Gunstock prefixes.
Yea I have one with a gunstock in tps rn
Literally lasted til the end of normal mode from lvl 17
That's a pretty good gun
My favorite is probably The Striker tho
Yep it is, it is quite versatile, with good fire rate and recoil that is pretty tame as far as Jakobs is concerned.
Can we get that one image of the
"i love the maggie!"
"I fucking hate you"
I hope one day everyone decides to despise the Maggie so that i may enjoy the weapon again
I love the Striker and I also really enjoy Rough rider
I suppose runner up to the Elephant Gun would be the Unforgiven.
The unforgiven in bl1?
Nah the second game, I only ever had one drop in the first game around level 17 I think.

It's one of those guns that really needs an Allegiance relic if you plan on beaning someone in the head repeatedly and quickly.
It's one of those "you get used to it" for me
Without one getting one with a Gunstock prefix helps and if you're playing Axton his Steady talent can help as well.
I get it, but I prefer a widow maker any day
Like widow makers are in my top 5 Jacob's guns
The Unforgiven in BL2 is basically a pocket sniper.
You must have pretty good familiarity with jakobs sights
Been a while I used a Widow Maker.
It's just a purple Jakobs pistol
Yeah I had to look it up to see what it is a reminder. I rarely use non-red text anymore.
I think it's the torgue barrel
If you have matching grips a weapon's sight changes. Jakobs pistol scopes get a red dot.
Lots of practice to.
Yea. I am very used to Maggie's and widow makers. I don't really like Irons but they're fine
Red dot.
I think the Gun I am most familiar with in the series that other people don't like is Swordsplosion
If you can see it that is.
Nah I can't but I get how that happens now
I never knew that
This is a vladov sight
Swordplosion with the two extra exploding pills is amazing.
Yea it's a pretty good gun. I also can use a flakker
Casual flakker
I learned how to use the Hail too but honestly it's pretty meh unless you specifically want a moxxi weapon
It's very good I just don't like it
Never got into the Flakker but knew a guy whose name may as well be glued onto it from the forums.
If you can learn it, it's the highest damaging gun in the game with the swap glitch
Used to use it and a creamer all the time
Oh yeah I seen videos and talked to people about it.
Hyperius I used to farm on Krieg with melee, but other than him and Pyro Pete I never touched the raid bosses that much.
You ever used a twister?
Pete I would make him kill himself with a Maya build that maxed reflecting damage.
Yeah, it's alright
Oh yeah, I got the gear using other means, and I sometimes use the Twister, but usually only against enemies like shield totting nomads.
...but I did fight an OP7 Iron God with the Deputy Sal build. That's almost thirty minutes I'll never get back.
Like three pennies and a half eaten french fry.
Yea they're cringe. Least a godliath drops a purp
I did it for no other reason than because I thought it would be fun. I needed a wrist brace and a pot of strong coffee. All that clicking was murder.
The same for me fighting badassasaurus Rex for a casual slow hand
Just pure annoyance
I had more fun fighting that Iron God than I ever had fighting that giant obnoxious bullet reflecting sponge of a boss.
Once or twice I fought him fair, then after I would just run back and forth between the ammunition vending machine and the concrete barrier to just throw bonus packages or meteor showers at him until his engine blew out.
Remember the ultimate badass loader going through the story tho
Saturn?
I think there are two of those constructors. One on your way to Angel and the other one is dropped off just outside the Warrior's sauna.
I evolved Rock God
Its the constructor that has so much health it takes like 10 minutes to kill him even at lvl 72
The one right as you go into the bl1 themed map
can you even crit this guy
Fortunately they do not regen health. I killed one on Axton with the Elephant Gun from way out of aggro range. I was getting idle complaints from Axton for not moving.
yeah thats probably why it took so long lol
Nope, and while I mistakenly picked 7 instead of Op8, he has something 95% damage reduction instead of the 99.8 or whatever at Op8 at the time.
Oh and it was also not using corrosive either which would have helped a lot.
Would have helped you but you still were doing like zero damage
Insane you took the time to do that
aren't they weak to fire like the boss?
No, they're armored
the boss too if I remember correctly, but he's still weak to fire damage
Iron golems are armored.
i think his DR there was 99.912%
Yeah somewhere around there.
The Concept Incinerator is in the back
Axton can chew up Iron Gods with his turrets due to them scaling beyond his level, so they are not subject to the same damage reduction shenanigans that players deal with going into the OP levels.
Bahroo is an ass
Bahroom got kicked off the forums for cheating way too much and he was...tolerated at best on there.
His testing was so poor
His AR takes were so bad
Like seriously
He mathematical proved the top 5 dps ARs had stronger dps than the top 4 SMGs
And he still called them shit
You weren't allowed to talk about gibbed or other programs on the forums, or show video content, which he did. I personally referred to it as the "Magic Wand" which was fine.
"off camera grind"
He rode the Unkempt Harold so much it should have charged him by the night.
I do to, but the thing is we didn't talk about it like bahroo did, and he did other things as well.
Me and Derch used to debate over the Unforgiven being better or worse than the Rex, he liked the Rex more.
Ig this is why bahroo never became a gearbox sponsored creator
Not to mention as everyone else brought up Bahroom was a bad source of info.
He caused irrepairable damage and now we modern playern get to sift through the shitstorm that is the aftermath and are expected to fix it
Yea I have that take as well ngl. Derch is a cool guy
A lot of people did actually
Never really steered me wrong
We like dersch in this house
I had to correct a lot of his and some other goomba's--whose name will never be mentioned for what he did--due to their takes on Jakobs equipment.
I honestly never watched bahroo much for gear, but I'd check his build videos
I mean, ngl though, dude used the sham a lot
LoOk hOw hOrRiBlE DIS PISTOL IS! shoots body shots with an Unforgiven with the two-fer prefix
Not an amazing shield, good but not amazing
Molmf?
Nothing like the antagonist
I forgot about that dude, but nah, this was a dude that people wanted to post humorously become a Gearbox badass but who got drunk, got in a car wreck, and killed himself and several others.
Bl is one of the reasons I learned to stop taking everything at face value and try to dig deeper
Oblivion and DMC are the other 2
Yea I can't remember his name
Yote
Why.
Ik who you're speaking about, kinda don't like him and never did
Oh that fuckhead
Yep, that guy.
He was who really got into wanting to play Bl2 actually
No--wait, they wanted him to be in a future game like the one player who passed away and whose NPC is in BL2.
Yoteslaya influenced k6, bahroo and handsomejackboy
Michael Marmarill
not a gbx badass. I think by then the GBX badass thing was peetering out due to non-forum users getting it and the drama in Blutfatal's badass thread.
Hjb is actually chill
Never heard of him tbh
Bl1 YouTuber
But he started a variety stream channel because Bl1 doesn't exactly have a whole lot going on
I do not keep track of youtube people. I tried making videos but I sound like kermit the frog with a smoking problem and depression.
Who is blutfatal?
I've talked to him on stream and the Bl1 community hangout server
blutfatal made a number of guides on the forums and swore by the Flakker.
His vids don't go too into detail but he never claims to be a super high lvl player
He was rough around the edges and we kinda bullied each other.
He just really likes Bl1
Okay so, you must understand
The people that watch borderlands content are
- 13 years old
- 20~30 years old
If you get technical, your audience is #2, if you get click baity, you get #1
i’d agree with that
Handsomejackboy is very knowledgeable about bl1. We were talking about the nidhogg earlier, and his video states about the same things I'd tell you about it. He played some really cool bl1 mods too back in the day
I was better at writing guides anyways, and it was fun having the forum users check my work and add their two cents.
He thought the Masher part was a barrel until I told him it wasn't
The people that watch joltz is probably a mix since he's good background noise, and he doesn't spout bullshit usually so technical players tolerate him and the newer players watch him because he's popular and just clickbaity enough and is really good at content creation ngl
To be fair bl1 gun parts are like chess compared to the gun parts in bl2 which are like checkers.
Bl3 parts 
Bl2 was a downgrade
Bl3 was even more of a downgrade
I mean you called the unforgiven your favorite jakobs gun. You're an odd one out. People who are very bullheaded are going to fight you on that one.
joltz isn’t a problem it’s just young people taking his very opinionated content as gospel
he’s just a dude with opinions and that’s taken as absolute word by some and that’s dull but
Who cares if his favorite gun is bad?
eh
The people watching technical videos have barely any expectation on video quality ngl
Oh I was the odd one out when I signed up the forums. There was a lot of hate for Jakobs back then, especially when UVHM was released. I was essentially the idiot on the corner with a big sign saying JAKOBS DO NOT SUCK.
Mhm! He doesn't say bullshit, but his opinions are very strong
Nah he said he argued with certain well respected and well known creators, I'm just stating it how it is. Never heard that opinion before. People will fight him on that
i wouldn’t even say his opinions are very strong
i watch his videos as background noise whenever one shows up but nothing more than that
Oh nah we just trash talked each other for funsies.
I'd make fun of him or something and he would turn around and make fun of me or something.
I've heard him call so many guns unusable 
i think as the biggest youtuber you do have somewhat of a responsibility to reiterate that what you’re saying is an opinion at the end of the day and not to take everything he says as gospel but also it would still happen regardless
he’s just a guy who likes bl2, nothing more deep than that
I ignore his content because of that
tbh so does like every other youtuber/casual player
I mean, his content is pretty solid
I have respect for him 
i don’t think joltz does anything that others don’t, he’s easy to poke fun of because he’s the biggest guy but eh whatever
i don’t appreciate some of the people he associates with, but he alone is fine as far as things go
Borderlands 2 just has a lot of weird nonsense that can used with weapons that best and worst are just subjective and more on how you use them.
Thing is though I agree with MoLMF about purple vs legendary snipers in bl2. Most of them aren't great, and the purples are better than the legendaries in most cases.
This sums it up pretty well
Like there for a bit there was a weird glitch with Sal, The Greed, Axton's turret, and one shotting raid bosses.
Or not so much a glitch just how the programming was working.
although it’s hard to forgive the mass brainwashing of the casual community that you need to prestack on gaige 
I don't watch or support white supremacists at all, so i'll never watch his content to know his opinions on anything
raises hand I never used anarchy tree on Gaige. I like using her as a walking tesla coil with a floating murder bot sidekick.
When was he a WP lmao


Do you not know the molmf lore
molmf is a terrible person
Bro recently triple downed
he got a little bit political
He got kicked off the forums to.
About the time I joined which was...2012-ish I think.
drove to the community event high on pills
Huh, crazy
Stopped doing drugs bc of ppl like that
Guess I missed out
whoah
Well...I guess he lives up to his online name then.
What the fuck is he saying in comments
This is pretty recent of him
I just saw that
Holy shit
Garnet Anarchist is really influenced by him too
Guess you aren't meant to meet your idols
GarnetAnarchist3 is entirely his own afaik
Or those you idolize change as you do and you cease looking up to them.
Nah bro he talks about MoLMF in his vids
Molmf taking them stupid pills
Either he fell down the stairs one too many times or he is the reason we have always been told not to put plastic bags over our heads.
Both is possible
Nah something happened that made him snap along the way
He wasn't like this when he first made content
I remember back when I first started playing this game none of this was on his record
My monitor came with styrofoam and a note saying do not ingest product or packaging
I think he contributed to creating programs like gibbed a long time ago.
it’s shockingly easy to fall down right wing pipelines despite how left leaning you originally were
could’ve happened at any point in his life
He was one of the people who helped make it yes
He got his credits removed on bl2 gibbed if at all, but on bltps it's still on there afaik
yeah I just look he is credit in helping.
Mine is an old version that still has him on there.
thousands of people literally get brainwashed everyday by all that bollocks, he just happens to be rather popular and outspoken about his dogshit beliefs
Unfortunately so
It was recent, by that I mean past ten years at this point. You have to keep in mind I played handsome collection in like 2016 before the new dlc and bought bl3 on launch.
This is why i'm glad i don't know where joltz or k6 stand on any politics
i’ve been playing bl since 2014
I never interacted with him. There was some discussions long ago, but that was...oh...ten plus years ago, so I do not recall the context.
He was well respected then.
i’m aware
Here is my old man card.
he was known as a borderlands youtuber
doesn’t mean he was outspoken about gross beliefs then
he could’ve harboured them at any point
I was around when peorlescent still meant a white rarity gun 
who does
I'm like 27, I can tell you're the same age as derch by how you talk and your love of jakobs firearms.
He's like 40 now
I am three years younger than him.
Yeah I thought so. He is like my borderlands Bible dude. I farmed all my Krieg gear off of him and the top gear thread.
Who made the top gear threads, I want to thank them
Bit of a funny story before I left the unofficial discord and coming back.
Me and another dude were having a stick measuring contest with us just renaming ourselves: General, God, God Emperor.
Then Derch logged on and immediately promoted me to mod before writing "I win."
took me 3 years of joking about being mod here to eventually actually being made mod
I didn't have the mindset for it, so I stepped down, plus I was not in a good state of mind after Gearbox sold out to Epic, so I left before I went off the rails worse than I did.
Im still genuinely shocked
Then when I came back Derch had long since up and vanished.
I'm not really that old, I'm just not a kid anymore. You shouldn't worry about ages of others, just of yourself. Eventually you'll be so old you won't have a chance of starting a career anymore. I'd worry about that more. Good to start young or you'll work dead end jobs your whole life.
And derch's discord channel is basically a ghost town now.
I'm simply striving to be happy in my life
lolol why
You and derch are like the jakobs experts, I can tell. Of course he'd give you mod lol
It really is, dying shame
Nah, he's more knowledgeable. I am just a hilly billy redneck that stubbornly clings to them and wrote guides that were easy to understand.
I still get carded when I buy alcohol, so that is a win in my books.
can’t say i ever really spoke to lawns
You really deserve a medal for devoting yourself to enjoying the unforgiven
Was very nice person
I enjoy Jakobs in general. The Unforgiven is just in my top five favorites.
Such a new take for me dude. Never heard anyone put it in their top 5
Along with the Elephant Gun, Striker, Damned Cowboy, and I guess the Rough Rider as that is the only shield I use on Axton anymore.
Striker is in my top 5 too
But I also use the Unofficial Community Patch and BL2fix mods these days, but even before I was doing all that before. Those mods just make it easier and more enjoyable.
It's like striker, skull masher, hellwalker, flood, and masher for me
What does bl2fix do
Skullsmasher took me a while to get used to in bl2.
God i'm so glad i talk to technical players
It's been in all the games I think to this point
It fixes some things with loot and does some quality of life changes. I do not know off the top of my head.
Genuinely mentally crashing out over rough rider on anyone's top 5 that's not a krieg player
I got a gif for you
Rough rider is my favorite shield as well, but I'd use the antagonist first on like most other characters
Its mostly good on krieg, because of all the bonuses it keeps active. On other characters it's very good but it's not the best. Top 5 is fine
RR is best in class on krieg
it’s amazing on sal
borderline useless on anyone else
maya it’s good for fleet
It's genuinely detrimental on most characters
Not ADS'ing 
Not exactly, its just not amazing.
Rough Rider is very niche.
Again, antagonist is probably the best shield in the game other than the bee
Bee sucks
Bee has been a problem for years and is the reason why we keep losing fun things.
Maybe for you, i,m winning with fun things
I never said I like it, it's been abused for years though
Well it does not bother me at all since I do not touch the raid bosses that are more swole now.
I only ever really used it with the Bekah a few times, not that thing needs the boost.
BRB
the bee is only good for raid bossing and in gaige
Okay but it's distinctly also the worst on gaige
because of BSS not it is not
My buddy was on Gaige and was using the Bee when we first met in a group trying to hose down Hyperius. I was using Axton's turret shields to block Hyperius' shockwaves.
and he challenged someone to a fight to then flatline them with the conference call with the bee, that was back before it was nerfed.
Anarchy diminishes the value of Bee significantly, not really talking how often you can use it i guess gaige is best but nonfactor for me
Simply the number gets proportionately worse
the value of the bee is only diminished if you have above like 200 stacks
which i don’t agree you should really ever have
pitchfork on gaige my beloved
Whereas smgs tend to taper off around 250 and ar's 200
Then there's kitten which is pretty accurate up to 500~
sandhawk gaige 🧠
DAHL Blasters are really fun
I am pretty sure the Blockhead is not affected by Anarchy but do not quote me on that.
i’m not even talking about accuracy mostly
it’s what’s necessary
and above like 150 is not necessary for general mobbing
Or more specific the accuracy decreasing.
blockhead can be used at egregious stacks yes

I play my anarchy to my weapon

its been a hot minute
I might have to take another crack at a Jakobs run on Gaige again. I never tried using the Anarchy tree in the past.
Istg if you say another meta weapon
McFucking What
Bekah
Thank you

Bekah on gaige is so trolly
what?
Also kinda opposed to everyone
I dont like the cc besides against haderax
ah right, the hail was the other meta gaige gun
hive to an extent as well
think the toothpick did alright
I haven't done a raid in several years.
am not gonna mention the infamous launcher though
What would conference call do for haderax at all
I did some quarky kills such as Maya's Deal With the Devil and her damage reflection build against Hyperius and Pyro Pete.
hit the back spot from a stupid angle iirc


it’s really funny on UCP axton at least
crisis management has like 6% damage reduction per point or something stupid like that
rough rider breakneck banshee is a classic
then forbearance has 2% damage reduction per point just for existing
budget salvador
true
probably not as good as just taking his shield skills like normal but it’s still funny
With a Pointman COM Crisis Management's damage reduction goes up to 60% and its gun damage boost is something like 70%.
Grit was momentarily boosted up to 5-6% per chance of kicking but that was quickly reverted as it made Axton nigh unkillable with a +5-6 COM.
fun
Isn't that the point? To topple him from the front because of the CC's pellets?
yah, one shot boss
otherwise it just regens
and fucks off for like 3 whole minutes
Not if you apply a damage over time to him.
I am starting from level 1 and just going through the campaign and difficulties. I have no room to be picky, and getting an epic so soon is swanky in my books. Also...Gaige Jakobs...I have not done this in a good ten years.
thats vanilla right
for gaige I just grab whatever rarity coach gun drops first
ravagers/hulk also rather funny for normal/true
Nah, I am ucp and bl2fix, so take it with a grain--nah, truck load of salt.
I still have to watch mag size with shotties, I had a few I couldn't use because mag was zero due to talents.
Gaige really wasn't affected by the UCP as far as I am aware of, other than some underwhelming talents getting a bit spiced up.
I am still gonna have to get creative with dancing between dancing with Discord and Anarchy if I want to hit anything beyond medium range with Jakobs.
I figure with Gaige it is gonna either be going gunslinger with mid ranger pistols or full on skeet with weapons such as Skullmasker, Maggie, shotties, and Gatlings.
UCP really does not kick in until UVHM where it balances Jakobs out to where dedicating to it isn't a macochist path.
didnt UCP make you reach max anarchy stacks instantly
Nah, I still have to work for them, in that I need to stack some serious bodies.
and iirc UCP lets you just hold down the trigger on jakobs
that's bl2 reborn
ah
Then I need to be at least mid range to hit anything.
I just spam coach gun till I get like 100
Nah, UCP does not allow me to auto fire with Jakobs.
might have been reborn fuckery
I do not really have to worry about the accuracy lose until about 80-100 with Jakobs snipers, then I need to get into rifle range if I want to hurt things.
you are planning to get discord right
Yeah.
I have a bit of a talent path laid out but I may tinker with it later as this is the second time I am tinkering with Gaige.
The mods just give me a bit more leeway in UVHM, but I can still get chewed up if I am stupid.
All Bl2fix and UCP do is make talents more balanced out and better, from what I recall enemies can still flatline a fool if they are not prepared or knowledgeable enough to counter them.
As well as certain weapons and gear, they give ya hand, but if you stupid, you getting a nap.
They made blue jakobs snipers not actually worse than greens
thats off the top of my head one of the biggest changes
Also they fixed the crit debuff of assault rifles.
So they are worth using now.
And red text are much better than non red text, such as the Cobra.
But..um...
I mean...sure?
I like the move speed, and it kinda gives the relic a bit of a universal use....but I think it was good as is.
I personally didnt bother to swap relics and always sold it
It is just seeing a relic with four stats has me just...loling over it. That move speed is good if you want to blitz from one area or another...and it is level 11. I am using it atm.
Also vultures suck....the accuracy decreasement makes it hard to deal with them even with an epic shottie.
this is pretty much my go-to relic for regular gameplay
unless im zero then i run shadow of the serpahs
the move speed is nice and I am sure once I get The Greed or start melee heckling enemies I can make it lethal.
Yeah, it is. Even at my level I can move a lot faster.
Not that much of a benefit right now other than retreating a bit quicker before the opposition forces me onto my knees.
Well, reducing time between point A and B in quests, but...eh.
Even with the mods I have, Deathtrap is still a meatshield that I can sauce up a bit.
Biggest problem is....reloading. Anarchy counters the mindset ingrained in me from my Halo campaign/multiplayer days.
I am just going to take the hard route of not hitting that reload key
No trial, no gain.
I mean I never unbinded it either
There been some Forum users that were disappointed I couldn't get Gaige to work with Jakobs, and that was a decade and a half ago when I was a whole let less intelligent, so I am hoping to put this to rest, even if I cannot share it with them while using mods.
I´ve never been one for allegiance runs so idk about that one
You have to have at least one screw loose to do an allegiance run.
And I ran out of screws years ago.
you are running on nails
You get used to the pain.
It's like what Heath Ledger's Joker stated: Insanity is like gravity...all you need is a push.
As far as Jakobs is concerned...I was shoved.
They were always worth using
ARs don't suck
The hammer buster thompson
Shout-out my boy the Hail
ground vision
The Kitten also.
the loaders destroyer
AR's suffered from something of a -50% crit bonus in vanilla, which really whacked Jakobs.
Bessieh still queening
the only non unique jakobs I used for a bit was the x3 something gattling
i think it was -20
some of the non-uniques might stink sometimes but besides that theres a lot of good unique ARs
I am pretty sure AR's got something of a -50% crit bonus as there was some discussions about them being junk compared to SMGs and...everything else.
it was -20%, unless the UCP patch notes are lying
Well, it looks you are right, Jakobs get whacked with a negative -20% crit bonus.
Er, let me fix that. Non-Jakobs get the -20% crit bonus.
jacobo
The higher end community has largely moved on from takes like that
Quite a few names have started giving ARs the respect they deserve
SMGs on other hand
Meh
I don't like them
Give me a strong Jakobs or Dahl AR over anything SMG related that isn't a Slagga
Might just be old nonsense I am going off of then.
It largely is
A lot of bullshit got thrown around back then
Bl3 had the same problem with its playerbase
But since both died down the more accurate ones started to surface
I been using some Jakobs rifles with my Gaigeslinger run.
cough cough Hellwalker cough cough
Garcia >
No you can't change my mind
Oh, that thing.
I also need to try out the One Pump
There used to be a brainstorming thread on the Gearbox forums where we came up with weaponry. I came up with a Jakobs Doom styled shotgun, but mine was more gory than the Hellwoalker.
Unironically it's a gun you'd probably like
It had a lot more skulls and screamed every time ya shot it.
Oh I remember seeing that Hellwalker being released, I doubt I had any sort of contribution towards it, but I did write a very detailed thing on a Coach Gun being demonic in origin but was Jakobs.
I'll take my .001% connection to it.
I'd be more impressed if Gearbox leaned more into Lever actions than tommy gun styled firearms.
I am a bit disappointed they didn't get creative and create gatling guns, cannons for rocket launchers, and just go real deep into old school with Jakobs.
In gatling guns, I mean the OG hand crank suckers that are the ancestors to modern day machine guns.
Jakobs ARs in 3 have a Gatling gun style trigger that makes them full auto
Oh, that is cool.
They also have one that makes them lever action
And a Masher trigger but that one kinda sucks
I'll take your word on it, It'll be a cold day in hell before I give Bl3 the time of day.
They killed Maya, the voice of her apprentice gives me a headache, and the baddies are two doorknobs that gain traction by trending.
It's been 0 days since someone unironically said Ava bad. Send help
I'd probably throw hands with Randy, and considering I actually learned martial arts, it won't be pretty.
I heard the mayhem thingy was...rough.
Mayhem 2.0 is fine
I might play it if bl3 is less than five bucks.
Sounds like UVHM and OP levels when they were released.
Having your guns randomly become useless
We went from having dozens of good builds to a quarter of them being good.
stupid modifiers was like playing underdome at all times
We had a Axton pirate build that was geared around melee before UVHM was released. It was actually good.
But Speed Demon and Boomer
We can't be friends
I have no friends, and I do not want friends. That is fine with me.
I am the honey badger that had been given a fifty five gallon drum of haterade.
I cant be friends with people who only play bl games to trophy hunt
I wish bl1 had the same story start over as bl2.
I would play the snot out of it otherwise.
You kinda can if you go into the files, but it just ain't the same.
It would also make it really nice after you farmed all the good stuff. Go back and pop bosses such as Sledge with gear you spent a good effort getting.
am likely to go for modded og instead at one point
enhanced doesnt fix jackshit
it just has some generic guns and a better gift shop
might miss the map but whatevs
Abusive relationship
I like it but not in bl1
They may as well go ahead and release Borderlands: Extra Spank Edition just to out do Bethesda's Skyrim releases. Make it look a bit shinier than the previous with maybe add a bit extra...like a very worthless set of weapons you get starting a new character that get replaced in the first level.
With a dozen bugs that require the modding community to fix.
Help please?..
thats just an approximation of the objective
The parts are hidden somewhere around that area
Oh thank god. I thought something was bugged
Thanks
What is this?
What's the question?
Like is that for later or?..
Yes.
A story mission will take you through there.
You were told where to ask that by a bot in #borderlands-2
oww sorry
Enhanced is able to lag the fuck out on high end pc tho
Wanna get robbed of that?
Any good?
You can get 4/4/4/4???
Yeah i was super confused becaude i thought you could only get codes that add up to 8.
Like 0/0/4/4
or 1/3/2/2
Its no matching grip but i just saw 4/4/4/4 and the ravager is good and the prefix is good because its a glitcj weapon
🔥
There is no limit
Or a point system at all
There's only a set list of possible codes
So all 4s is one
There's every combo of 2 4s and 2 0s
But no 1 4 3 0s or 3 4s 1 0
Is 8 the baseline or did i pull the 8 number out my ass
There is no baseline
I need to read up on my glitch weapons
I used to think the game rolled each glitch chance individually but it's all one part
That goes in the second accessory slot
And when I looked in gibbed there was no standard pattern
They just basically threw in a bunch of codes effectively
Okay looking it up
There are 625 potential glitch codes
But there are only 23 actually in the game
The only standard is you're guaranteed a 4
That's it
well thats, something
So you get a 1/23
Welcome to the Borderlands space program:
HX if I'm not mistaken, but b1 too: sad days.
It's only the Dlc guns that are fucky
Base game they're 1:1
Like on 360 you are way more likely to get the Flayer out of a Legendary Legendary Purple grind
If I recall the compass at the bottom of the screen can show you where the parts are on Scavenger missions.
Oh ok thank you
the money bags i think
Grinder has a 41.7% chance is this also PC?
I think lootlemon needs to update its odds for the grinder, i doubt it would happen because no one cares abt TPS but info in the TPS genuinely feels so sparce
But on Xbox One someone tested it and the Flayer is not that common from the grinder
And when I say tested
I mean thoroughly tested
Yeah grinder is just fuckeeeedddddd
I haven't even played Saint's Row 1 funnily enough 
How do you know that line😭
YouTube
It's on my list of games to get around to tho
SR1-3 is awesome
I've only played 2 and 4
3 lost the plot but its the most fun so its kinda my fav
4 sucked so much ass man
It was alright
I hate how every vehicle was completely negated by super speed
But I'm not into that kind of game usually
GTA V puts me to sleep with how boring it is
And it does feel super dated😭
I remember the dubstep gun being like super super marketed on release and i remember being VERY hyped about it in like the third grade
I like GTA5 a lot
And none of the older GTAs call out to me either like how Saints Row 2 did
I liked the story missions somewhat but the side activities suck
And it doesn't feel like it does anything meaningful with the open world
So it doesn't feel like it has a reason to be one
Yeah game is over after i beat the game/100% it for me
100% is so tedious though
One game i love but will never ever in my life ever 100% is botw
But I guess this all comes back to me preferring my games where almost everything has purpose
What do you mean by that
Games where systems and items interact with each other
Or the devs had a clear vision for what they want with little fluff
GTA V feels unnecessarily bloated because it's GTA
And as such has Rockstar money put into it
This naturally means open world games need more explaining to catch my attention vs linear ones
IE. why did you choose the open world format
And most open world devs answer poorly
That makes sense
Saint's Row I felt actually answered sufficiently
Because the side activities actually had care put into them and 1 and 2 required you to engage with them if you wanted to continue the story
Outside that the only other open world games I got into are Bethesda games
also an open world rockstar game but not gta is Bully
i think it does the everything has a purpose principle a lot better
Interesting. Had to process that there was red text on my screen
The Cobra is a bit of a mid-tiered Jakobs weapon. It's ain't bad, but it ain't super good either.
As far as red text goes.
Unfortunately it is only boosted by explosive damage, so if you want it to hit as hard as the Elephant Gun, you need to slap on an explosive relic. But if you can get a crowd together the splash damage can be potentially be nasty.
I dont mind, dont really like Krieg action skill anyway
However it does get boosted by Duty Calls
Because that skill only cares about what the item cards says
if there is a crowd together they are getting bloodsploded
Yeah, I was abusing it in Hammerlock's DLC with the UCP patch which pushes red text quite a bit higher up on the totem pole.
Not what the actual bullet does
Basically if you are Jakobs diehard the Cobra is Jakob's very poor slot in the rocket launcher department.
amigo sincero or bust
funnily enough cobra was hitting close numbers, its just the firerate was atrocious
I probably will not use that glorified Trespasser and I am always tempted to throw my Thumpson into the bin.
Those weapons are just bait to try and get people to pick up BL3, and Lilith's DLC I probably will never touch even though I own it.
am on the opposite side there, never liked the skullsmasha and sincero is the only actual kinetic sniper for me
I rarely use the Skullmasher until recently, and may use it on my Gaige Jakobs run, but I prefer using the Buffalo or the Elephant Gun.
What annoys me is we could have had a legendary Jakobs gatling rifle or something creative, but we got are essentially two White Claw equivalents of firearms, and do not get me started on that incendiary sniper rifle.
Then they stick a 50% bayonet--are you bloody kidding me now? Why not 100% or just not bother at all since the bayonet attachment is quite possibly the most useless attachment on weapons post TVHM unless you are all-in on a melee build.
No, there is that rainbow sniper rifle that looks awful.
ah, hot mama
everthingymajig rarity
Okay but
White Claw penetration test
I am talking alcohol.
I have never tasted alcohol in my life
I know
am biased to forgive the hot mama just cause it lets me snipe at 600 anarchy
Good, stay away from it.
the sway is a nightmare though
But there's a gun YouTuber that likes to use White Claw cans to test firearms
And he calls it the White Claw penetration test
I took one look at that rainbow nightmare and went "Yep, I'd rather jump in a wood chipper than touch that.".
Ah okay.
That makes sense now.
He also decided to make an AK chambered in .50 BMG
With Gaige I am doing fine with 100-120-ish Anarchy before I need to hit discord to lower it down so I can hit something with a sniper rifle beyond mid range combat.
Because reasons
Was honestly hoping you would
Brandon Herra or whatever, he made the .50 BMG ak sniper rifle.
I watch him from time to time.
Apparently he decided to run for the Senate
Yeah he did, I do not keep track of it though.
Which going back a bit; AK's are overrated. The quality control is if you buy one and I buy one there is chance yours can pop lightbulbs at 100 meters while mine be lucky to hurt a barn at the same distance.
That is even with the best companies that make them.
IE. I've shot them one time and I got autistic about the details but the fact it's a weapon designed to kill weighs in my conscience so I question if my interest in them is a good thing or not
And unless you get an old Hammer and Sickle AK, their reliability isn't that great.
Eh, you can kill someone with a hammer.
Nyet rifle is fine
Firearms are like any tool in that if you misuse them you can do a lot of damage. Cars whack more people here in the U.S more than firearms do.
Cars are ass these days. Used to be you could get a car that you just needed a wrench, some WD40, and knowhow and you can fix it. A bit of an exagerration, but that is what it is these days. Oh and cars are built to be thrown away and replaced anymore.
I suppose this is just what some Autistic people have to go through when the things they're into have a moral grey area
I am a bit jealous of European countries as a lot of them can either walk where they want to or take public transportation. If I want to get anywhere beyond my yard, it is my Jeep and a good 10 minute ride.
I tbh want to move to Japan
...meh....
No I'm not blind to the issues the country has
If I had to pick a country, it would be Romania. I could immediately retire, buy hundred acres of woods to block the lumber company, and my neighbors would be bears.
It's just no other country's culture has captured my interest like their's to the point I started learning the language
I'd have to give up my firearms, but I can still have bows and crossbows.
Yeah that's a thing about them
Japanese firearm law is strict
And that's an understatement
That or maybe czechoslovakia since they're gun nuts.
But I can live w/o guns
and my carry weapon is a cz pistol.
It's more of a side interest of mine these days
I would have to be paid to move to Japan. They are not friendly towards outsiders, and their work ethic is extreme.
But a lot of countries are rather strict with people moving to them unlike the U.S of A.
I understand
But Romania is bloody corrupt, and that is my first country I would pick...so eh.
Runner up would be Switzerland, and that is because I have already been there.
Dat chocolate.
Anyways back to Skyrim I guess
Have fun, I always enjoy going in there with my 300 some odd mods.
I got double checks hours 698 hours and I never got to where I had to infiltrate the Thalmor Embassy. I like wandering around and doing random nonsense.
To me it is a walking simulator.
And Vanilla Skyrim is...eh. It was alright when it was released, which was around the time of Dark Souls so its combat system was immediately clunky, and that is before taking into account all the glitches and hiccups in Skyrim.
Only reason it is still running strong is because of the modding community.
I just overgear myself to the point I am a god on earth. Recent playthrough I am playing as a paladin that runs over people with a shield charge perk courtesy of the Ordinator mod.
With an OP Serana following me around as a portable magical nuke.
I did the two handed bonker for a while, then went stealthy sneaky archy, then am doing the sword and board now.
Is anyone level boosting today?
I got that paladin and another that is named--um...I cannot write it here. But his name rhymes with bilbo but very inapproriate and his only reason to exist is so I can try and steal everything in Whiterun before dying.
He is always looking left and right with some missing teeth, is a bit on the short side, and has this shit eating grin on his face.
Firearms are badass
Kriss Vector was the best gun i’ve ever shot i love it
"What's the vector, Victor?"
Looking back on this tbh I don't hate dubstep
The only music genre that has gotten me to the point of despising it is Rap
Its bad.
Bear in mind i don't play the 1 character it works on (krieg)
It's alright on Axton
Maya can boost it with Reaper
It's a sniper so CA works with it
So yeah
There's weapons way lower on the totem pole than it
Still honestly not worth grinding for unless ur collecting
Give it a C
I'm of the opinion making rare items strong is annoying and not good for a game's health
Could atleast have decent balance.
Even a b+ id accept
what has DMC done to me
Dmc?
Devil May Cry
Ah yh that shit does things to you
I may or may not be replaying dmc1
Me playing DMC Devil May Cry before 1 was a mistake. The combat systems and level design are very very different and difficult to get used to.
I now have the perfect shield for my Lazer Enforcer build.
Ok maybe not perfect but beats using a common shield.
I am not a fan of the early DMC games
1 felt clunky and well.. 2 is genuinely just a bad game
I do like DMC as a series though
no mention to sniper krieg, L
but yeah even if the damage isnt terrible its still a bolt action
useless firerate and cant really get CA going on its own
so Id honestly just leave it to explosive krieg and axton
less conditions to worry about
Can Yall help me rq??
Mayhaps
Lots of people disagree
I think most people agree on the DMC2 take actually.
Can u help rq to lvl up my krieg to op 10
Cuz I’m lvl 80 with no gear nothing and I can’t do no damage
Did you mod in your save lol
the first pearl
i was obviously doomed to get one of the shields since i am chronically unlucky
yeah and it gets better even with shit pieces
@north prairie also the 94% sham on TPS i grinded
Nah someone just got me to lvl 80 and that’s it
Try tipping Moxxi for her weapon?
Better than nothing
Nice! How often does the sham appear from the grinder?
4.17% apparently
Thats annoying but still probably better than bunker
Since you can do like a shit ton of grinds fast
But i like the look of lots of stuff on here
I thought it was really good
so wait till you can max them out
Like 5%
I grinded 200 shields so in the end i got a like a bubch of Shams
So:
Duty Calls, Ranger, and Overload are all not good. Would be better off with those points in Steady and Longbow (Longbow doubles your turret's HP)
Nuke (middle tree capstone) is fire damage, so not great for where you are with all the shields and armor
For left tree: Ignore the left two skills and invest fully in the right two. Get Scorched Earth so turret can do meaningful damage.
I don’t think the Prismatic Bulwark Can be grinded
Because after 200 shields he didn’t appear
@sacred lintel check what i sent in bl2
May easily be a a bug
Hello I have question for Bl2; What is the best weapon parts for Harold? Im about to start Gunzerker run.
I’d say for leveling a gunzerker run for a deputy build is both easier to build around and more effective than a GrogDpuh sal but you are generally looking for the Double Penetrating Prefix and Torgue Grip
Early game you’ll struggle with ammo consumption so a damage prefix would be fine too as DP is very ammo heavy
But if you ask me you shouldnt use a harold since its overkill for the levels you get it, you wont find one on level unless you farm torgue vending machines, and its very ammo costly
yoo
can someone boost me some how is that a thing in borderlands 4?
im lv13 and its hard with no skills or anything basicly
It requires elbow grease to get the most out of, but there are worse sniper rifles, and I only compare it to other Jakobs. Amongst red text Jakobs it does alright, but with an explosive relic it punches around the same damage per hit as the Elephant Gun.
Brother aren't you the "Infinity is viable for raid bossing" guy?
It is if you have 900 hours on ur hands and some mad skills
And dont need to sleep ever
Peak build
5 years ago?vv
Time flies don’t it
Felt like just yesterday I started playing bl2, how I wish I could of stopped that
Michael.. MICHAEL DON’T LEAVE ME HERE
Worth it imo
That Half price books purchase of vanilla 360 BL2 has lead to many awesome things I could never have experienced before with being mainly a Bethesda boi
.... this is gonna sound like a stupid question here but is Oxidizer even worth using?
Not really
Dodn’t it have some usses on athena?
Is this loadout decent?
thats not very gamblecore of you
Barely use it 🤷♂️
Then why is it there
For when I’m in a pinch… idk

fucking hell
@peak ether dick and balls

of course it drops on lilith of all chars
didnt know this uh, character dropped the bone shredder
was also today years old when I found out the boomstick can come in other elements
They're a reskinned Bone Head
Which is why
Farming Chaz for a Bone Shredder Savior
Get a Friendly Fire Boomstick.
was gonna say "how much does the hybrid really increase the stats?" but LL lists it
pretty solid boost
increased accuracy would be the nicest part lol
Thank you
FINALLYYYYYYYY
The sight is actually good because its basically a pocket sniper but i wouldve preferred the scope roll i got on my dastardly luck cannon
In the Pre Sequel does anyone have a list of Lazer guns I should go farm for before I go into UVHM?
What char are you playing
The game gives you the Ol Rosie as a quest reward in TVHM.
My reccomendation is to wait to start the final quest until you are max level if you want and get a shock rosie
WindHelm. And I am going with a all out Lazer gun build.
Its one of the easiest to get and one of the strongest lasers in TPS. Has a really strong multiplier for continuous damage
But thats only if you havent already accepted/beat the final mission
Is that a green COM you are using?
Unfortunately I think I already did that quest.
Yeah.... still looking for something better... Sadly my luck not been that good lately.
Okay i’ll try and give you some tips
- You can get a celestial com super easy in this game
All you have to do is grind 3 purple coms at a grinder and you get it 100% guaranteed. I pretty much do this once i hit level 50 because i believe thats when the perks start being +5 across the board instead of +4 but you can do this whenever
In that case I got 2 levels to go to get the plus 5
Thats okay, if you want to you can farm iwajira for stuff to grind and whatnot.
And if you dont mind doing something vaguely glitchy you can search up “Skullmasher Wombat Pre Sequel” or something along those lines and find the easiest legendary farm in the game
Farm iwajira for grinder fodder, put 2 legendaries in and a purple laser for a legendary laser recipe
You also have the E-Gun i believe?
Its a very strong quest reward laser up there with the rosie
Anyway just try to get your gear up to snuff and a decent laser. Once you get the vibra pulse in UVHM that’ll be your main gun since its very overtuned
Still pretty strong. For now anyways.
Yeah it scales past its level very well
One more thing i dont know wilhelm that well but you might have ammo issues just rocking 4 lasers, try to find good weapons that arent lasers as backup. I imagine you arent using all 4 anyhow and mainly just spamming 1 or 2
Oh and one more final final thing
I actually have some strong Ammo Regeneration thanks to my set up.
If you wait to accept the endgame quest until 70 you’ll get your rosie at max level like i said. Get it in any element you’d like, shock is preferred but the vibra pulse is shock too so you can do what you want. But i’d reset UVHM after that so you can get a level 70 Vibra Pulse in UVHM. You can then finish the story again to get another max level rosie
UVHM will be really fast in comparison to TVHM especially on a second playthrough
Ok thanks for the info.
Ofc
And then
Sorry im rambling but
You can start claptastic voyage and get a guaranteed DLC legendary at the end of the story. If you dont mind you can duplicate it with yourself and get infinite dlc legendaries. You can use those DLC legendaries as grinder food to get great lasers like the absolute zero and laser disker
Claptastic voyage also gives you access to stuff like glitch splitters which i think are great lasers too
Thanks for the info.
Ofc
wait a sec
did i actually drop a good luck cannon during my H source farming
Yes thats a perfect luck cannon
lmao
🥀
200 H source farm for a absolute Zero do this to a mf
i think i saw like 30 luck cannons
Lootlemon has dastardly as a max DPS one but two fer is better for jack and nisha who are actual abusers of the luck cannon

