bl1-2-tps-media

[sleek jolt]

@wooden vault can u help me

[wooden vault]

never touched bl profile editors in my life, sorry

check a guide on youtube probably

im sure 80 people have described thoroughly what to do

[north prairie]

Heartwarming

[sleek jolt]

Pls boost me

[north prairie]

Naur

[sleek jolt]

My version on profile editor lol I can’t get it to work

[wide fog]

the idle game in the background is frying me

[leaden stag]

not the random spoon?

get a coach gun and start gaming

[oblique kelp]

I did this with Bekah and Terramorphous quickly perished

ah not "this" you use trainer or something

I just made auto-fire with mouse-whell assign

no hacks no mods no nothing

[little galleon]

I'm actually doing remote play on PC to ps vita. Because borderlands 2 PC doesn't have a native PS buttons

[thorny wharf]

is this tuff

my partners have never touched borderlands btw🥹✌️

ignore that picture on the shared theme slide thats 100% necessary and important to the project

[leaden stag]

homo erotic

[thorny wharf]

exactly

[winged void]

I miss when he didnt die in 1 shot this brings me back

[silent roost]

WHAT DID I SAY???

[silent roost]

@leaden stag

[leaden stag]

now give to an explosive build krieg

[silent roost]

nah, it's staying in this save

now, how tf do i pass on my luck to my gf-

[sharp comet]

anyone know how to fix resolution its stuck on max

[oblique kelp]

!! incendiary after 3 non-ele

[winged void]

Op1.

[oblique kelp]

world drop impalerr

[leaden stag]

yikes

[slow carbon]

beat terramorphous for the first time

[tender aspen]

What did you get?

[leaden stag]

corrosive against terra, psycho

[slow carbon]

just the class mod

[slow carbon]

it was the only thing i had that actually did noticeable damage 😭

[leaden stag]

the funny 600 stacks class mod

[tender aspen]

Could be worse ig

[marble birch]

max level savior drop

[peak ether]

Let me guess

Crimson Shorty?

[marble birch]

yup

[peak ether]

Most things can't drop max lvl items

He's one of the few that do

[marble birch]

???

[tawdry shell]

how 90% of my craw fights end

doesn't matter where you are it feels like the maggots will always knock you off

[marble birch]

why are they so fast

[tawdry shell]

the worms are filled with rage

[peak ether]

First mistake was getting that close to the edge

Even if you were trying to use the ledge

[marble birch]

usually they miss me or dont do knockback on the first hit

then they fall off and die

didnt know this one could double jump

[peak ether]

I usually rush the arch way to try to get the back first

[leaden stag]

to be fair you were really slow to setup the spot

[violet spear]

I usually go to the ledge at the far left of the arena. Easier to avoid the worms that way in my experience.

[leaden stag]

I didnt even know people use other places besides that one

[peak ether]

I don't even use the ledge in the first place

[marble birch]

40ish kills no pearl but ill take this

[marble birch]

first bl1 pearl

[tawdry shell]

huh i could've sworn hearing that thing stopped working at one point

[fickle fossil]

@tawdry shell I could walk you through how to get it working. It's really easy.

[tawdry shell]

i have no interest in using it, im just surprised to see it used again lol

[fickle fossil]

ah yea

I got this from a vendor.

I'd have the in-game screenshot if GIMP didn't forget what was in my clipboard for me.

[grand bramble]

Why is "Liquid Thunder" such a good name for anything?

I could imagine anything with the name "Liquid Thunder"

Except for like, a dining room set

[north prairie]

HOW DID YOU GET IT TO WORK

I FOUND IT ON AN OLD GEARBOX THREAD AND TRIED USING A FLASH EMULATOR BUT IT DIDNT BOOT

Please tell me how i need this

Also literally noticing you are in the flash archive server too lmao

Please i need wisdom

[peak ether]

Funnily enough

Semi auto snipers aren't supposed to be able to get the Thunder title

It's supposed to be "Driver"

[grand bramble]

Liquid Driver sounds dirty, so of course Gearbox wouldn't approve that

[tender aspen]

Liquid thunder is just another name for explosive diarrhea lets be real

[grand bramble]

With context, liquid thunder could apply to anything

[tender aspen]

Also true

Really the words are vauge enough to have a lot of context behind it

[grand bramble]

Fair enough

[violet spear]

Liquid Thunder but it's actually electrified water

[grand bramble]

Isn't that just white monster?

[tender aspen]

Liquid thunder you just call a thunderstorm

[violet spear]

Best Pearl mentioned?

[tender aspen]

Uh accidental genuis more like

[fickle fossil]

Oh, I know.

[winged void]

I got a buff...

[fickle fossil]

I can link you a video I made. One sec.

[tender aspen]

Nah that buff is too little

Need more damage

[winged void]

Quite litterally max lmao

[tender aspen]

Gbx always restricting us

[winged void]

Brotha my rough rider has fkn shield

[winged void]

Fr

[tender aspen]

Real question, how much capacity for the tortise since it has massive capacity already?

[grand bramble]

Reminds me of the time the Infiniy pistol didn't work because I had magazine size increased

[winged void]

It says -1.somn bil

[tender aspen]

1 billion.. well damn

[winged void]

Nah its not 1 bil

[tender aspen]

thats just too bad

[winged void]

Its over 2147483648 so it overflows to the negatives

I love numbers

[winged void]

Decresed*

[tender aspen]

What about total health?

[winged void]

-2147483648

[tender aspen]

Oh its that high then okay

[winged void]

Only way to die is 1 shotting myself

[little talon]

Is using the hellfire a good idea on Maya?

[tender aspen]

Hellfire slaps with all that dot

[violet spear]

If the enemy is weak to fire, yes.

[tender aspen]

That too

Cat com on top of it for SMGs

[winged void]

Sometime maybe good sometime maybe shit

[little talon]

I mean I've specked into all the fire related stuff on her cataclysm tree and flickers doing a lot of heavy lifting on the ignite chance

Plus I'm using pyrophobia and moxxi's heartbreaker

And I've basically got a double stacked fire Nova with flame of the Firehawk and backdraft

[violet spear]

If you have the FFYL incendiary shots it would be worse to use in FFYL than a shock weapon on average, because many enemies have shields and fire is awful on any health bar that isn't red. Lets you strip shields faster for the fire damage bonus to matter.

[little talon]

Yeah I know fire is mostly good against base healthbars and nothing else, so I use cloud kill, Harold,and fastball for everything else

Idk if I have a good build but yeah

[violet spear]

If it works it's a good build.

[little talon]

I know it's not gonna work in op 10 when I get there , but it's working in normal mode so I think I'll be fine

And sometimes I switch my shield to the fabled tortoise just for safety

[fickle fossil]

So sad it isn't barrel four.

[little talon]

This is my inventory rn

[tender aspen]

Oof sad Tediore grip on the heartbreaker, and Tediore grip and melee prefix on the hellfire

[little talon]

Damn how did you notice that

[tender aspen]

Because I know parts

Unfortunately

[little talon]

I know nothing about parts

[tender aspen]

It’s not too difficult, just takes some practice

[little talon]

Just found a random e tech pistol

The super dart

Is it any good

[little talon]

Should I know all that stuff for when I try op 10

[tender aspen]

Probably should

That way you know what to look for when getting those perfect rolls

[little talon]

Yeah

[violet spear]

?parts

[serene escarp]

Bl1 Part Visual Charts

https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Gun_Component_Charts
BL2 & TPS Parts
https://bl2.parts/

[violet spear]

Here's a handy guide.

[little talon]

Ty

[nimble sierra]

this was my first chest drop a few days ago

[tender aspen]

Too bad ur Sal

[nimble sierra]

don't ask why I'm level 27 during The Once and Future Slab

later on I saw this chair near The Bunker and thought "this is the Vergil Chair, isn't it?"

[violet spear]

Virgil didn't even sit in a chair in the original cutscene 😭

[silver frost]

Hey there

[little talon]

Wsp

[idle smelt]

My probably terrible current axton build, and I refuse to listen build suggestions/guides because thats just not as fun, also not max level yet

[trim hinge]

yeah thats pretty bad

oh well

[idle smelt]

Yeah I figured

Build crafting is like 90% of the fun of borderlands for me I would personally rather just figure things out myself

It is my literally first time playing axton let alone looking at his skill tree's

[fickle fossil]

@peak ether Found a Torgue Havoc!

It's terrible, but was just talking about them, so thought I'd take a screenshot!

NO ACCESSORY! WHY?!?!?!?!?!??!

It's nothing special. but it's pretty funny that this Jakobs has the 3-shot cylinder and the tech scope.

[peak ether]

Body 5 so it's the bare minimum to be functional

They can be barrel 5 too

Which is my preferred MG barrel

[peak ether]

This early game was blessed by Zeus himself apparently

This thing is going hard wtf

[oblique kelp]

purple rat

[ocean orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDEs-De9pMM

Just got the random leech world drop

[unborn swallow]

Cool little project i been working on

The Data set is low but it's mostly a group of more in-tune. Though, i have my disagreeances

[wide fog]

what the hell are you cooking

[unborn swallow]

I'M not cooking, this was NOT my idea

The name is very clear

[wide fog]

curious

[unborn swallow]

It's just a massive tierlist of every weapon compiled

From a group of people i want to imagine have slightly more understanding of op10 than the casual player

[wide fog]

inb4 someoen asks if this list is measured on using the bee or not

[unborn swallow]

Considering both with and without, but primarily without

I hope

There's discussions about a few of the weapon's and if bee is mentioned it's usually like "this weapon is really good with The Bee but decent without it, i think because it's exceptional with The Bee it should be slightly higher than otherwise"

[wide fog]

weapon tier lists have always felt flawed to me
because of the nature of bl2 where not every character can use a weapon to its best potential because of bad skill tree design

[unborn swallow]

Tier lists are ALWAYS flawed no matter what you do

[wide fog]

i think defining a criteria for a tier list is more important than the actual content

[wide fog]

i mean yeah theyre entirely subjective

[unborn swallow]

Yeah;

It's why the data is polled from a group of more experienced people tasked to consider usecases except raiding, at op10, across all characters, so if say, exceptional on krieg and gaige, but not so much zer0 & maya), then it should be considered on these

[unborn swallow]

There's 6 weapons i haven't polled out of 139 and that's for 1 reason, i doubt people are insane

I don't think anyone is going to say Grog, Fibber, Conference Call, or Lady Fist aren't S tier, and then Dahlminator not even gaige can make above C tier so it's a very defineable F tier.

Rubi isn't voted but if anyone puts it anything but 1 tier lower than Grog i'm killing them/j

[wide fog]

problem with the rubi is
in comparision to the grog its bad
but the rubi on its own isnt bad and even as an actual weapon and not utility its pretty good

[unborn swallow]

Yes!

We don't consider contemporaries usually

Rubi is A tier, maybe even high A tier in my eyes, but Grog exists. If you consider Grog, rubi is literally useless

[unborn swallow]

Regardless, i'll link the spreadsheet if you want once it's done. It should be finalised by tomorrow

[wide fog]

yeah sure
if we ever get around to making a bl2 info channel i think it could be a nice add

[wide fog]

same goes for {insert weapon FFS powercrept here}

[unborn swallow]

It depends tbf, it's hard to actually say that something is B tier or other, because it's character, build, and even difficulty dependent

It's a good generalised idea but weapons will be listed different ranks, being brought down, or up, by it's per character performances

Gaige and the Patriot is a confusing life decision, but Zer0 with Patriot is absurd

[wide fog]

i also just have a distaste for how bl2 works with weapons
one character shouldnt be better at using a weapon than another
borderlands just isnt that type of game

it works in some games
not this game

[shy jay]

100%

[unborn swallow]

I'm glad bl3 weapon performance is usually generalised for every characters "most basic" build

[wide fog]

ill rephrase that
characters shouldnt have specific skills geared towards specific weapons
like axtons skill to increase ammo in ars? why????

[unborn swallow]

Yeah.. thank god that's gone

Wait till you hear about Gaige's Jill of All Trades class mod

[wide fog]

i can forgive stuff like that in bl1
but in a sequel? nah

[unborn swallow]

Bl1 was experimenting

It should've stayed there

But yeah! I'll send over the tierlist tomorrow once it's done

[wide fog]

awesome, sounds good

[unborn swallow]

This is a part of it so it can be seen exactly how the data is displayed to the player, the notes is the vote distribution

I still highly hate Rapier S tier but it IS technically the best melee weapon on 6 characters

[wide fog]

i will ask
what is the criteria
the toothpick is a better weapon than the veruc but the toothpick chews through ammo so much faster

[wide fog]

it has to be S
its only not good on krieg

[unborn swallow]

It's actually still better than not holding a rapier on krieg

[wide fog]

and even then thats because he doesnt need it not because its bad on him

[unborn swallow]

Very very slightly better

[wide fog]

we're talking such a small amount that it doesnt even matter in practical use yeah?

[unborn swallow]

This exact example was a discussion. It was decided that Toothpick has S tier damage but is locked to Fire, it's ammo consumption is an issue, so it's an A tier choice. Veruc was considered average across the board, considerable to B tier, but because it had access to all elements and had select exemplary performances, it got A tier as well

[unborn swallow]

Uhh, it's like

I forget the math but less than 20%

[wide fog]

i see
weighing upsides and downsides of each weapon individually rather than giving a broad criteria for each

[wide fog]

which on krieg is nothing because the humble STV lol lmao

[unborn swallow]

It'd matter if it was like, gaige

[wide fog]

are you going to be running this for every unique in the game or just ars?

[unborn swallow]

But it's not, krieg just has so much that the majority of enemy hp thresholds are already surpassed, so it wouldn't likely reduce number of hits to kill

[unborn swallow]

I need to add another section at the bottom

[unborn swallow]

We're just missing the 6 aforementioned weapons, then the other weapons I didn't mention are currently in the vote pool

Those will close up by midnight UTC if not sooner

[wide fog]

oh my word

[unborn swallow]

What?

😭

I'm a fucking nerd, i got offered a situation where i can collect and display mass data on a spreadsheet and my brain went "SPREADSHEET DATA YIPPEE!!!"

And here i am

[wide fog]

its awesome

[unborn swallow]

🔥 🩵

It's entirely pointless, but it's vastly more accurate than vinylicpuma tierlists

[unborn swallow]

It's awesome until this happens

[wide fog]

LOL

hey jacobs pistol that has an element is unique
doesnt make the gun A tier but

[unborn swallow]

The axton main put greed in A

[unborn swallow]

Wait nvm i know why

It's like one of the guns where ADS with axton can make you faster

[unborn swallow]

I'm gonna go bring some pings and ask why we're voting Greed over Good Touch

Crit/Good Touch/Bad Touch all got voted B

Why the hell is greed in A for anyone

😭

Anyway good night unb

[wide fog]

any moxxi weapon is immeditatly B tier minimum because of how they work

gn

[oblique kelp]

"Crit/Good Touch/Bad Touch all got voted B"

that's insane

sometimes I mad on 2's community

I evovle Axton to level 77 using Good Touch pretty often

surely it's not that strong as on Maya

but as you can easy get it every new level and successfully beat any flesh mob and not only flesh with common Legendary Soldier build

I dunno

[tawdry shell]

except the ones i make cause i’m goated

[cunning sable]

Crit feels A but its effect probably bumped to B

The Moxxi SMGs are just sort of reliable, I woudlnt call them must haves

[trim hinge]

I would not put any of the moxxi smgs above a C

[cunning sable]

Id argue Crit in B just cause its stronger then most Maliwan Smgs and Shock is a good use all element,its just the dropping thing thats annoying

[oblique kelp]

Crit is in TOP 5 SMGs

Good Touch and Bad Touch has near Beach stats

https://www.lootlemon.com/weapon/good-touch-bl2
https://www.lootlemon.com/weapon/bitch-bl2

but nobody calls Beach B or C

[peak ether]

Bitch has a crit buff

Oh wait all 4 do

Nvm I don't know what I'm talking about

[cunning sable]

Crit has the most i think

[proper storm]

Crazy I was just doing a money run and I found Raw EQ in red chest and INC. EQ off the shop.

Playing on the Oled switch.

[north prairie]

How does the switch run it

[unborn swallow]

I request everyone's votes here

[eager laurel]

D

[violet spear]

D, but high D.

[lofty flame]

D for Dahl

[cunning sable]

S
For Superior Firepower

[lofty flame]

Thats not in bl2.........

[unborn swallow]

@wide fog mini update: i decided to include majority vote and normalised vote

So you can see Roaster was Majority A tier, but the total votes makes it B tier

[wide fog]

mmm i see

[fickle fossil]

The EQ10 is sweet for late pt. 1 and like all of pt. 2.

Won't even need to buy ammo upgrades in pt. 2 anymore.

[peak ether]

Most Equalizers I find aren't good enough parts to justify using

But when it rolls as a good Masher it's a keeper

[proper storm]

It runs good however the audio tends to stop here and there but gameplay it’s good

I forgot to mention that it only stops when it’s get too chaotic for me.

Save and quitting tend to crash the game as well

[proper storm]

Another legendary🔥

[peak ether]

Plague is strong but those parts are bad

[unborn swallow]

[peak ether]

Are you colorblind Dizzy

[unborn swallow]

Why do you ask .??

[peak ether]

Because you have colorblind mode on

And it's not set to Tritatinopia

[forest yew]

intersting way to figure out if someones colorblind

[unborn swallow]

I have protanomaly so protanopia is the closest

[peak ether]

Nah I just recognized that the green rarity isn't that dark a green normally

Assuming Tritatinopia doesn't also change it

[unborn swallow]

Wouldn't know :3

[peak ether]

Money and legendaries blend together too well on default so I use this instead

[unborn swallow]

They like

Don't blend at all for me

But etech vs green on default

[peak ether]

Magenta isn't a real color to you

The horror

[unborn swallow]

I know what it is

But like

One is yellower than the other

[peak ether]

I'm not even colorblind lmao

[unborn swallow]

[peak ether]

It's just Gbx really did make the yellow of money and orange of legendary too close

[unborn swallow]

Anyway how do i kill him, this happened both before and after a dashboard

[tender aspen]

That and the beam colors mixing to be cyan like a pearl

[unborn swallow]

Imagine how it feels telling orange and dark orange on bl1

[peak ether]

The simple answer is don't care

If you know Bl1 parts you don't need to go off rarity

[peak ether]

Idk I just wanted to flex my knowledge of an accessibility setting

Pull him off the map with a singularity?

[tawdry shell]

the only game i’ve used color blind settings on was call of duty

mostly cause i thought cyan and orange nametags for teammates and enemies looked nicer then green and red

[unborn swallow]

I tend to avoid them, but Borderlands offers me more text on my screen for it

And uhh... gimme

[unborn swallow]

@raw anchor

[sacred lintel]

just got my first world drop legandry from a dirt pile on the ground lol

[tender aspen]

Sad that it’s a leech, but cool that anything dropped

[north prairie]

Bl2 on a modded switch 1. Feels much better to play it here, it was uncapped but i think you could just cap it at 40 and be fine. Tried to stress test it a bit here and there were some dips but its good. Stable 50FPS outside of combat

BL2 on switch 1 being 30FPS at max and having single digit dips felt horrendous to play. Overclocked switch definitely feels leagues better. Obviously you can reach a stable 60 on consoles or PC but this seems like a solid portable option

You have the option to run it at 120hz too but i just have it at 60hz for less strain

[north prairie]

Undocked does a lot better averaging 10FPS more hovering high 40s to mid 50s during combat and a stable 60FPS anywhere else

[north prairie]

Surprisingly enough in my testings TPS seems to have the smoothest overclocked playthrough

[leaden stag]

tediore stays loosing

[mint seal]

My first pearl on mother's Day

[mossy coral]

Is this the hybrid?

[unborn swallow]

Yep

[mossy coral]

Thats crazy it took 1 run

[unborn swallow]

Congratulations

[trim hinge]

u running mods?

i know the dedicated drops mod increases drop chance for hybrids

[mossy coral]

dedicated along with QOL

Does dedicated make it easier?

[peak ether]

Yes

[mossy coral]

Imma disable it then

Not as rewarding

[peak ether]

?fibber

[serene escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770358985688612874/852973451114971206/FibberChart.png?ex=68c7056e&is=68c5b3ee&hm=a835173b2fc78939bf1e9c23e1401258c3aba206ff7e11b5befc613af3e59949&

[leaden stag]

@tawdry shellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDzOgHyZSRo yoo wake up, another ~~stupid ~~ obnoxious and specific challenges YouTuber

[north prairie]

FINALLY!!!!

Jesus that farm was horrible

[tender aspen]

From Vora too? That had to be rough and exciting all at once

[north prairie]

Nahh im pimperburning with gas glitch avtive. I literally just switched to vora i was farming the snowman but like.. i think this legit just might be better. Vora seems to drop better shit and i can drop her relatively fast with the setup

Hyperius i can farm like 3x faster but for some reason i feel like his loot pool is worse. I barely see him drop nades like vora does but maybe im crazy

[eager laurel]

not x8, gotta keep farming

[north prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-if-ied-charlie-kirk-captain-america-captain-america-no-i-dont-think-i-will-no-gif-16569705391531137272

[mellow haven]

need help with a few raid bosses on ps5 if anyone can help me out 🙂

my PSN is @ThaGrimeReaper

feel free to add me or message me and let me know thx much appreciated 🙂

BL2

[wide fog]

is that

oh my god

[pastel zealot]

first legendary of the run is a carnage shotgun, lul

ooo this looks good (i think)

nvm i got a vladof repeater that out-does it in every stat lmfao

[peak ether]

Body 1 so meh

[pastel zealot]

also gets mogged by this (its 2x)

[peak ether]

As it would on Mordy

Also yeah I can see the double accessory

And prefix

Raven actually isn't that bad

[pastel zealot]

raven is a good weapon, its just that im mordy and i have a repeater that is like THAT

i dont think there are really any "bad" weapons in bl1 to begin with anyway

[pastel zealot]

i know i still wanted to point it out cause i feel too proud of the thing i found

[peak ether]

Tbh I doubt I'd like it

[pastel zealot]

it dumps the entire mag in under a second because i have gunslinger lmao its funni

[peak ether]

That thing is brrrt reload brrrt reload brrrt reload

[pastel zealot]

exactly

i also prefer my weapons to be tap firing slow hard hitters, but you cant go wrong with a little brainless mag dump

[peak ether]

I'm too Thanatos pilled to use another double mp

[pastel zealot]

based.....

im vladof's strongest soldier though, so i have to disagree

besides shotguns
vladof shotguns feel wrong

[peak ether]

They really do feel like they need that mag size

[peak ether]

Shotguns are the one Vladof weapon I feel is actually worth using over other brands

[pastel zealot]

i also found this which is kewl

[pastel zealot]

idk, they feel like they tickle when i use them

its a bias thing really, i prefer tap firing hunter shotguns

[north prairie]

😭

[pastel zealot]

is that THE kirk

[north prairie]

Pfp fits the name

W

[leaden stag]

I was never really a fan of jakobs thunders

3 business days to shoot

[lucid sand]

For Roland it’s overpowered, anyone else it’s subpar

[pastel zealot]

A legendary is a legendary

[lucid sand]

Look for a skullmasher then

That’s the best Jakobs sniper

[pastel zealot]

My weapons good enough for me rn i cba

[leaden stag]

Just wait 20 years for a Bessie to drop

skullsmasher in bl1 I think had a kinda decent spread

[peak ether]

It's great on Mordy

[leaden stag]

in bl2 I always disliked the skullsmasha

[peak ether]

And Professional Lilith

[lucid sand]

Really?

[peak ether]

Yes

[lucid sand]

Wouldn’t expect that

[lucid sand]

Yeah that makes sense

[peak ether]

In tree crit

And the gun doesn't recoil

[leaden stag]

atlas champion mod has weapon damage for mordi and lethal shots boost iirc

[peak ether]

So you can land all 5 shots on a head easy

[lucid sand]

Good point

[peak ether]

Champion com is for Roland

[leaden stag]

I forgor the name of the mordi one I had

[peak ether]

Mordy is good with Combat Rifles in general

[peak ether]

Gunfighter, Sharpshooter, and Peacekeeper

[leaden stag]

a, sharpshooter

[peak ether]

Only for Hyperion guns

[leaden stag]

that seems goofy

[peak ether]

The loyalty coms only boost guns of that manufacturer

[leaden stag]

the com description didnt give me that idea

[peak ether]

It's how they work

[leaden stag]

for shame

guess its back to using gunslinger for general guns

[fickle fossil]

What?!

What's wrong with Vladof shotguns?

Don't want that 3.1 RoF?

[tawdry shell]

goated bo2 smg

[peak ether]

Parts probably

[fickle fossil]

They're rare as fuck though. I've only got a 5-shot b5.

[peak ether]

The amount of bad legendaries in 1 is really small

[tawdry shell]

stock + rapid fire + suppressor

[fickle fossil]

The day I come across a b4 is the day. I don't even care if it has the 5-shot.

[peak ether]

Barrel or body?

[fickle fossil]

Barrel.

[peak ether]

I prefer barrel 5 on my shotguns

And most guns in general

Combat Rifles are one of the few exceptions I prefer 4

Largely because Stomper title

[fickle fossil]

Good combat rifles are so fucking rare, dude.

[peak ether]

Not really

I get quite a few Stompers

With body 5

Unless you mean MGs

[fickle fossil]

I've been farming for years, and the best I've got is a 12-mag 1.4x deathly destroyer.

Mat3.

[peak ether]

Check your purples I guess

[fickle fossil]

No, I have deathhly stompers with b4s too, but none of them have 18-mags or better than scope 1.

[peak ether]

I see

[fickle fossil]

So fucking rare.

[peak ether]

Scope 1 is actually the one I like the most

[fickle fossil]

I want that 4.6x or whatever it is.

4.2x?

Whatever it is.

[peak ether]

I know what you mean

The one the Avenger is based on

[fickle fossil]

They're not terrible on Roland with 12-mags, I guess.

I realize Brick has Centurion or Titan (whichever has the mag size boost), but I don't really play Brick.

Pretty sure it's Centurion.

[peak ether]

Lemme check

Nvm data's not good enough

[peak ether]

Figured

[fickle fossil]

Titan is shield and health regen.

[peak ether]

Titan is the funny shield one

[fickle fossil]

Funny?

[peak ether]

A Defender Lilith with 3 Titan Bricks is the highest shield capacity you can get in Bl1

Also Unbreakable abuse in solo

[fickle fossil]

Need that 58 mat3 Pangolin.

[peak ether]

*55

[tawdry shell]

speaking of

random question

[peak ether]

Coms can't go over lvl55

[fickle fossil]

I'm talking about shields.

[peak ether]

Oh

Nvm

[tawdry shell]

if unbreakable worked in berserk, and you had to chose between either unbreakable or blood sport (can't grab both), which do you think you'd go for?

[peak ether]

Blood Sport still

[tawdry shell]

gotcha

[fickle fossil]

I don't spec into Berserk at all for my Brick.

[tawdry shell]

i've got my main brick build figured out now i think but i was torn between those 2

[peak ether]

I run a hybrid spec

[tawdry shell]

gonna be running mods so some skills are fixed/tweaked

[peak ether]

Anyways gotta go now

[fickle fossil]

See you.

[tawdry shell]

was gonna run this with a health boosting shield for endgame i think
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/brick#_5555055_0505530_5055005

[fickle fossil]

I tried installing patches for GOTY, but it broke regening COMs.

[tawdry shell]

wide load could prob be swapped around however

no liquidate cause the mod changes how that skill works for some reason :p

[fickle fossil]

Torgue.

[tawdry shell]

i could maybe swap iron fist for a different skill? dunno if i would need THAT much melee boost

[fickle fossil]

The only time I use Berserk when I play Brick is at the beginning of the game, when I need to fill up my health.

[tawdry shell]

i try to use it in large mobbing maps typically

it's really fun to me

if iron fist doesn't feel too diff without it i might use the points from it for hardened

[fickle fossil]

I prefer rocket launchers with Brick. That's how I get my fun.

[tawdry shell]

fair enough

[fickle fossil]

I have a red rwl(something)70 spread.

No accessory though.

[tawdry shell]

i usually learn more towards helix launchers over spread

both are great though

[fickle fossil]

I used to love helixes.

I have an evil red RPG(something)70 too.

[leaden stag]

I prefer the nidhogg over most launchers

[fickle fossil]

It crushed my soul when I seen it was body 1.

[tawdry shell]

just thought of something

i wonder if the gear calculator uses the wood/tree theme to match how the save editor is called willowtree? might be overthinking it though lol

[fickle fossil]

Think you're overthinking it, dude.

[tawdry shell]

lmfao

ik the uhhh

dlc names usually follow the names of trees i think, at least in bl2

in the code i mean

[fickle fossil]

oh

[tawdry shell]

bl1 it's all just labeled dlc 1, dlc 2, etc however

though it does also follow having a bunch of stuff start with Willow

makes ya think

[lofty flame]

I only remember FFS being called anemone and i think Scarlett was called orchid

[leaden stag]

impossible

[lofty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skate-board-gif-778367011615093516

[leaden stag]

oh actual trees

[tawdry shell]

yuh

[leaden stag]

thats, peculiar

[tawdry shell]

i wonder if all the willow stuff is just how gearbox named things for bl1 or if it was an UE3 thing

[leaden stag]

am guessing they just picked codenames at random that they would understand between each other

average coderat gremlin activities

[tawdry shell]

if i were to give codenames for stuff i'd go with dogs

[fickle fossil]

This is my Brick: https://www.lootlemon.com/class/brick#_0000000_5505525_5555055

[leaden stag]

brick

[tawdry shell]

oh yea no level 69 lol

seems pretty solid to me

can't believe you wouldn't pick up prize fighter

smh my head

[fickle fossil]

I still played Mad Moxxi's and the claptrap for the four extra. Then, rolled my level back in WillowTree.

[leaden stag]

my brick has nothing from left tree

cause it sucks

(I dont care for his action skill besides hp regen)

[fickle fossil]

I've had to do a lot of rolling back because of the blasted increased level cap.

[tawdry shell]

i used to be the same way

only for the speed glitch pretty much

[leaden stag]

getting them uppercuts to crit is kinda fun but

I prefer gun

[fickle fossil]

Gun go pang ping pow.

[leaden stag]

I got bash tho

daze funny

[fickle fossil]

lol

I don't like dazing enemies.

[leaden stag]

I dont like desperados sprinting all over the map

[fickle fossil]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/lilith#_5050350_5551055_0505120

Here's my Lilith.

I was really wanting to get venom back in there, but I just can't justify it.

Because +9 resilience + defender + fire/corrosive shield is hilarious.

[leaden stag]

my lilith still like lvl 27

[fickle fossil]

I have a level 40 Lilith I'm working on.

[leaden stag]

been taking it slow and skipping sides but am still overleveled

[fickle fossil]

I think I have a level 14 Lilith too.

[leaden stag]

I guess thats what I get for killing every enemy I see

[fickle fossil]

It happens.

[leaden stag]

[fickle fossil]

Sucks to be a gun crazed maniac, I guess.

[leaden stag]

I erased rakkinshu in like 3 double anarchy mags

[fickle fossil]

What's fun is taking him down with an explosive Revolution.

[leaden stag]

funny rakks humongous hitbox

[fickle fossil]

*as Roland

[leaden stag]

my funniest kill was ending him with a jakobs idiot knockback (xx) shotgun

[fickle fossil]

Yea, you can do that too.

[leaden stag]

It just repelled him to the skybox and got him stuck there

[fickle fossil]

lol

[leaden stag]

well fuck wrong name

mothrakk

[fickle fossil]

ohhh

Mothrakk.

Right.

[leaden stag]

rakkinshu jumpscares you during some sidequest in rust commons west or something

completely unannounced

[fickle fossil]

Yea, the Echo collect quest, I believe.

@leaden stag

Here's my Roland: https://www.lootlemon.com/class/roland#_5055150_5050153_0550052

[leaden stag]

I cant recall if cauterize heals your turret

[fickle fossil]

Probably.

I don't know either.

All I know is that I don't put any points into it because I want to be doing the killing.

Here's my Mordecai: https://www.lootlemon.com/class/mordecai#_0505500_1514045_1504255

[leaden stag]

no stockpile is vile

especially considering you are running aid station anyway

[fickle fossil]

When you have 3/5 Supply Drop, you really don't need Stockpile.

3/5 is the sweet spot.

[leaden stag]

that might be it, I barely put 1 point into supply drop

[fickle fossil]

Dude!

[leaden stag]

dont like it too much

[fickle fossil]

You'll thank me if you just try 3/5 supply drop.

[leaden stag]

venom looks pretty.. useless

unless you are going for action skill memes

[fickle fossil]

yea

It's kinda cool for the memes.

That's about it.

Just use your corrosive artifact for phasewalk, and it's way better than venom.

[leaden stag]

my lilith has slayer and high velocity, also enforcer

she likes to gun

[fickle fossil]

Right on.

[leaden stag]

wait what the fuck is element pool regen

[fickle fossil]

What Spark?

[leaden stag]

yeah

[fickle fossil]

Yea, man!

Lilith needs Spark, for sure!

Get yourself a Tormentor w/ +4 Spark, man!

[leaden stag]

for low lvl non elementals feel way better to me

[fickle fossil]

Firefly has Spark too, mind you.

[fickle fossil]

I guess.

Headstone Mine and Sledge's Safehouse is a lot of fun with a Tormentor or Firefly COM.

[leaden stag]

Im a conservative specter and merc lilith

[fickle fossil]

You need to trick the game into thinking there are four people though.

Otherwise, it feels a little too short.

[leaden stag]

Im on enhanced cant mod

[fickle fossil]

You can do it in Enhanced too.

But you wouldn't be able to on console.

[leaden stag]

no trespass 👁️

[fickle fossil]

lol

I just can't do it, man!

Don't judge!

I think I have it maxed out on my lvl69 Mordecai.

[leaden stag]

I also dont really put more than like 1 point on bird of prey

I want my heal yesterday

[fickle fossil]

lol

Bird of Prey + Swipe + Ranger is so much fun though.

[leaden stag]

I dont use swipe nor ransack

might give ransack a go

[fickle fossil]

At the end of a fight, there is so much to pick up. It's hilarious.

[leaden stag]

that would mean no trespass and not maxing fast hands nor deadly

[fickle fossil]

Ransack gives you shit like this:

[leaden stag]

no focus 👁️

[tawdry shell]

trespass is kinda mid anyways

[tawdry shell]

not worth the points

very little damage boost and enemy shields don't scale right to begin with

there's some spots where it's good, like the guardians, but not many situations outside of that

[leaden stag]

what you mean killing shielded enemies with a volcano is not normal

[tawdry shell]

volcano would likely wipe through the shield regardless of trespass

[leaden stag]

am a little lost on your fixation for the lvl 58

[tawdry shell]

they dislike how many points you get at max level

58 is the cap with no knoxx dlc

[leaden stag]

am just kidding around tresspass makes the dot useless

cause dot is the only thing attacking the shield

[fickle fossil]

@leaden stag It's actually 4/5 that is the sweet spot. My bad.

Far less interesting, I'll bet.

I just loaded up my Roland.

I fucked up.

[peak ether]

I once got an almost perfect barrel 5 Ogre from it

Ransack is deceptively good

[leaden stag]

am too used to getting my gear from chests

enemy drops very rarely have usable parts

this one time a random badass bruiser was berating me with an ogre but it had terrible parts

[peak ether]

The thing about Ransack is the awesome lvl of the items it drops is your actual player lvl

So at lvl 69 it's actually higher than Craw's

It's why you randomly get really strong rolls from it for seemingly no reason

[leaden stag]

that seems, much more broken than one would initially imagine

[tawdry shell]

ransack is so fun

i love having it in the zombie dlc

[peak ether]

Yeah the skill is mid on paper great in practice

Mordy has only 2 skills I consider truly bad

[violet spear]

Those being?

[static wadi]

Honestly big points to Gearbox/2K for putting the DLC for the 7th gen games on disc

Great that they're always gonna be preserved for these consoles alongside the 8th Gen versions (Game of the year & handsome collection)

[peak ether]

Trespass and Smirk

[leaden stag]

I forgor what smirk does

[tawdry shell]

bonus xp from crit kills iirc

could be decent for guardian farming

but at max it's quite literally useless lol

[leaden stag]

ah that one

dont think Ive ever specced into it

[tawdry shell]

me neither

well i prob did as a kid

but not within recent years lol

[peak ether]

When I get home I'll throw together a Bl1 skills tier list

I've played the game enough to have informed takes

[violet spear]

My boy Metal Storm better be in S.

[fickle fossil]

Venom better be at the top.

[peak ether]

I have never seen a single soul say they hate Metal Storm

But tbh I'd put it in A

[violet spear]

Valid. It's not universally good but for the guns it's ideal for it's top of the line.

[peak ether]

High A low S material

[violet spear]

Yes.

[peak ether]

Something every Roland takes almost always good but not game shatteringly strong

When I think of skills I'd consider S I think of Brick's Revenge or Mordy's Relentless

[tawdry shell]

lethal strike in S

[peak ether]

High B Low A

[violet spear]

Kinda true if S stood for Shit

[peak ether]

No it's good

[violet spear]

It's above average at minimum. I just like shitting on it.

[leaden stag]

gamblers placebo

[peak ether]

Fair

I don't consider melee Mordy a meta playstyle

But it's viable

[leaden stag]

truxican wrestler

I dont like the idea of potentially meleeing 5 times and not rolling a lethal melee

so I never play it

[leaden stag]

I feel lied to

[peak ether]

Hyperion Lance

@leaden stag @violet spear @fickle fossil
Okay I'm home now time to make the tier lists
Mordecai
S: Relentless, Killer, Deadly, Gun Crazy
A: Bird of Prey, Out for Blood, Aerial Impact, Ransack, Carrion Call, Fast Hands, Loaded, Swift Strike
B: Caliber, Focus, Hair Trigger, Predator, Lethal Strike, Riotus Remedy
C: Trespass, Swipe
F: Smirk

Roland
S: Metal Storm, Supply Drop, Stat
A: Impact, Assault, Scattershot, Overload, Refire, Quick Charge, Cauterize, Grenadier
B: Defense, Fitness, Aid Station, Grit, Deploy
C: Barrage, Stockpile, Sentry
F: Guided Missile, Revive

[leaden stag]

couldnt agree more on swipe

wait where is remedy

and deadly

nvm deadly is there

[peak ether]

Lilith
S: Slayer, Silent Resolve, Phoenix, Mind Games
A: Enforcer, High Velocity, Hit and Run, Blackout, Intuition, Inner Glow, Dramatic Entrance, Girl Power
B: Diva, Quicksilver, Spark, Phase Strike, Resilience, Hard to Get
C: Striking, Radiance, Venom

[peak ether]

Forgor

[leaden stag]

would be so peak if it was shields instead

bloodwing already solos healing

[pastel zealot]

you should post these on bl1 and get a mod to pin them ngl

[leaden stag]

revive not at F jumpscare

[peak ether]

Brick
S: Die Hard, Revenge, Master Blaster
A: Iron Fist, Endless Rage, Heavy Handed, Short Fuse, Bash, Payback, Unbreakable, Wide Load, Liquidate
B: Sting Like a Bee, Hardened, Safeguard, Juggernaut, Endowed, Rapid Reload
C: Prize Fighter, Cast Iron

[peak ether]

F is for skills I really hate

[pastel zealot]

skills i like arent in S literally bad tier list wtf reported

[leaden stag]

but its not even a guaranteed revive

[peak ether]

Fine

[leaden stag]

[fickle fossil]

In my opinion, all the dazing skills are F.

[pastel zealot]

eehehehehhehehe

69
eheheehhehehheheheheheheheeh

[peak ether]

I love daze

[pastel zealot]

daze is great

[peak ether]

Underrated effect

[pastel zealot]

especially when you're a melee brick fighting a badass bruiser with a rocket launcher

[peak ether]

If Guided Missile had daze I'd actually use it

[fickle fossil]

Waste of skill points, as far as I'm concerned, but we all got preferences.

[leaden stag]

quick charge kinda goated

[peak ether]

The way I see Daze is it increases your survivability and on Mordy you need all the help you can get in that aspect

[leaden stag]

so biased Id put it next to stat

[pastel zealot]

mordy pops fast if you dont hide lmao

[peak ether]

Aerial Impact opened my eyes on that

[pastel zealot]

i should upgrade that skill

[peak ether]

It lies to you

It's only half the advertised value

[leaden stag]

but why

[peak ether]

Blame Gbx

[trim hinge]

gbx would never lie to me

[fickle fossil]

I regularly play Mordecai w/ pseudo four players, and I don't have a problem staying alive. Just got to be real strategic with bloodwing, i.e., get better guns. lol

[peak ether]

Daze is how I get strategic with Blood wing

[leaden stag]

you also use swipe

[fickle fossil]

Swipe doesn't daze.

[peak ether]

It's not entirely useless tbh

[fickle fossil]

It gives me money!

[peak ether]

I didn't give it F for a reason

[leaden stag]

maybe for ammo, for heals you are already covered

[pastel zealot]

oooooooooooooo

[leaden stag]

assuming you arent trolling your own skill tree

RV and melee

[fickle fossil]

Sad days.

[leaden stag]

[fickle fossil]

Still on the lookout for a masher AX ZZ Unforgiven.

[peak ether]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/mordecai#_5005010_5555555_5502505

This is runnable

[trim hinge]

bird build

[pastel zealot]

i mean you get way too many skill points, dumping em on bloodwing dont sound too bad

also this is the worst barrel possible aint it

[peak ether]

No

There's worse

[pastel zealot]

then what is?

[peak ether]

0

[fickle fossil]

I never learned b0, b1, and b2.

[peak ether]

0 is no barrel at all

[pastel zealot]

im curious now
this is basically a mosquito stinger thingamajig
there are pistols with no barrels?

[peak ether]

That looks like 1

[pastel zealot]

its 1 i think

[peak ether]

Yes

[leaden stag]

the dove might as well have no barrel with how shit it is

[peak ether]

It's funny looking

[fickle fossil]

I didn't know b0 was literally no barrel.

[pastel zealot]

got a buncha weapons for level 31, done farming after 3 runs lul

[peak ether]

Lvl 58 version no Underdome or Claptrap points

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/mordecai#_5005010_5505505_5500502

[fickle fossil]

I need to at least be able to tell a b2, honestly. Still looking for a good fury.

[leaden stag]

cold torment is where its at

[pastel zealot]

i cant tell any weapon parts, i dont need to
if i find it to be cool i use it

[leaden stag]

I hate the melee prefix

[pastel zealot]

holdon imma do a random morde build lets see if i can cook

[leaden stag]

he is gonna run smirk isnt he

[peak ether]

It's the square chunky one

[pastel zealot]

im not gonna run smirk

NICE

[fickle fossil]

I don't have enough money.

[peak ether]

[leaden stag]

atrocious parts but at that lvl it will still defile

[peak ether]

Rip

[pastel zealot]

nvm im not gonna
its basically what pandoranfox posted except with the 7 extra skill points spent lule

[pastel zealot]

not nice......

[peak ether]

Mat 3 Mag 5 Barrel 5 is good

[leaden stag]

you could always pay a visit to knox dlc city for fast sells

but I dont think you will be fast enough

[peak ether]

I need a Defiler for MINAC soon actually

Lmao

[fickle fossil]

I do happen to be on GOTY right now, but I got no idea where to get bank in Knoxx.

[leaden stag]

he does get defiled

[pastel zealot]

MINAC?

oh the claptrap boss lol

i never actually farm for specific weapons in this game compared to the amount of farming i did in bl2 and 3, feels odd

[leaden stag]

some specific stashes and there is also a red chest down the stairs in the small houses

can always quick search it to be safe

[fickle fossil]

I do know the one red chest.

[leaden stag]

Closest chest might be the one above the square bounty board

its just a regular one

[fickle fossil]

ah

[peak ether]

Tbh if I could revert a lvl cap it wouldn't be the Knoxx one

I'd revert the free 8 lvls

[leaden stag]

delete the underdome

[peak ether]

No I actually like Underdome

[fickle fossil]

Free eight levels?

[peak ether]

Base lvl cap was actually 50

[pastel zealot]

i hear underdome?

[pastel zealot]

same

[fickle fossil]

ohhh I forgot about that.

[peak ether]

But when Claptrap dlc dropped they gave everyone 8 extra lvls to their lvl cap

So if you didn't have Knoxx it because 58 and 69 if you did

[violet spear]

On top of the two SDUs from Claptrap DLC completion?

[peak ether]

Yes

[violet spear]

Wild.

[fickle fossil]

I thought they increased the level cap when they changed the chests in New Haven to white ones.

[violet spear]

Literally pay to win someone tax this company.

[peak ether]

I started in 2016 after everything was said and done

And tbh I'm perfectly fine with lvl 69

[pastel zealot]

nice

[leaden stag]

funny number

[pastel zealot]

hehe

[peak ether]

But I'd also be fine with 61

The characters don't feel complete at 58

[pastel zealot]

yuh, its like bl2 where you get waaaay too many levels

[leaden stag]

I was already used to 72

[peak ether]

Same

But those 8 extra points in Bl2 didn't change much

[leaden stag]

the bloated numbers got even more bloated

[peak ether]

It just makes getting new characters to max even more annoying

[leaden stag]

and of course the geniuses didnt increase the integral limit

so now both your money and your damage you cant tell apart

[peak ether]

Bl2 money hard caps at 999999999

[leaden stag]

bl1 does too and its braindead

[peak ether]

Unlike 1 and 3 where the counter keeps going up in the background

[leaden stag]

never lets you actually see how much you got

[pastel zealot]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/brick#_5525035_5035550_5450105 tuff?

[peak ether]

No in 2 and Tps the cap you see in your inventory is the actual cap

[leaden stag]

I think bl2 new u station fully shows it, which is kinda funny

[pastel zealot]

bl2 hard caps at that ye

[peak ether]

Once you reach it you stop earning money

[leaden stag]

ew brawler build

[peak ether]

It's good

[leaden stag]

well at least you arent using prize fighter

[peak ether]

Fuck Prize Fighter

All my homies hate Prize Fighter

[pastel zealot]

I LOVE MELEE BRICK RAHHHHHHHHH

[pastel zealot]

genuinely who uses prize fighter

doesnt it give like 3 bucks when it procs

[peak ether]

Melee Brick is actually a very good playstyle

[pastel zealot]

melee brick isnt tanky and braindead like melee krieg, but its still really good, and only slightly braindead

[peak ether]

Good healing, strong dmg that doesn't cost ammo

[pastel zealot]

the only bad part is that you get so used to your fists being your guns you forget how to headshot

[peak ether]

Isn't gambling like Mordy

[leaden stag]

too bad he is so much better with gun

[pastel zealot]

im suffering due to said bad part as we speak

[fickle fossil]

No Wide Load nor Unbreakable, and Sting isn't maxed? WTF is wrong wich you?

[pastel zealot]

maxed sting is dogshit

[peak ether]

It's overkill

Not shit

[pastel zealot]

2 is more than enough for you

[leaden stag]

some launchers do suck balls without wide load

[pastel zealot]

too bad i dont use em on melee brick lmfao

[fickle fossil]

Which is the COM with Sting on it? Skirmisher?

[peak ether]

Yes

[pastel zealot]

ig you can count this as "hybrid" since it has the skills needed for gun brick

[fickle fossil]

lol Need +9 Sting.

[pastel zealot]

+9 sting
get the motherfuckers all the way across the map

[leaden stag]

no unbrakable

[fickle fossil]

hahahaha

[pastel zealot]

dont really need shield regen when i keep regening hp

[peak ether]

Unbreakable doesn't work in Berserk

[leaden stag]

balls

[pastel zealot]

cock

[leaden stag]

He was accidentally right

[peak ether]

Torture

[pastel zealot]

i totally knew that fact btw

[leaden stag]

I find it hilarious some coms boost juggernaut

very balanced

[fickle fossil]

I don't know Brick's skills too well. Which one is juggernaut again?

[peak ether]

Can we torch the Leader com btw

[peak ether]

Dmg resist on kill

[pastel zealot]

trueeee

[fickle fossil]

Noooooooo!

Don't you want to be a leader, Fox?

[peak ether]

It does actual fuck all

[pastel zealot]

god forbid a man wants team experience

[fickle fossil]

lol

[peak ether]

Worst com in the entire game

[fickle fossil]

Thanks.

[peak ether]

I have every VH skill burned in my memory btw

[fickle fossil]

Even with team shield delay reduced?

[tawdry shell]

i remember using the character overhaul mod to change that one

extends berserk each kill, really busted

[leaden stag]

wait what

[tawdry shell]

it also had the option to keep the money drops but like quaduple it

[leaden stag]

why did you put juggernaut in B

[tawdry shell]

i had to shut it off cause it kept crashing my game

[peak ether]

You're gonna be the only one needing when your team wants to tear your head off because you aren't running a Support Gunner

[peak ether]

Decent effect but not ground breaking

[fickle fossil]

I see how it is: Roland always needs to be running the Support Gunner COM, eh?

[peak ether]

Not really

I find even that to be mediocre/bad

But it has something

[fickle fossil]

Tactician is pretty sweet, in my opinion.

[tawdry shell]

i've always wondered how well certain team coms would work on a full stack of the same VHs

[peak ether]

The unfortunate reality of Roland is the Heavy Gunner is so strong you have to make a real good argument to use something else

[leaden stag]

4 hunters

[peak ether]

The something else in question

[fickle fossil]

Sad days.

[peak ether]

I was complementing the Tactician

[fickle fossil]

oh

That flew over my head.

[peak ether]

And referencing a meme tier list I saw for another game

[tawdry shell]

there's some coms i still haven't even used in bl1

[peak ether]

It was like

[tawdry shell]

lime

[fickle fossil]

Warmonger is rare as hell.

[peak ether]

The very top tier said "Realistically why would you use anything else" and the tier below was "the anything else"

[peak ether]

I love the Warmonger

[fickle fossil]

It's a pretty beefy COM.

[peak ether]

Brick's com lineup is stacked

[fickle fossil]

I had to find the one I had on my old PS3 lvl 69 Brick.

[peak ether]

It's a Bl3 Moze situation

[pastel zealot]

the hell is that skin?

[fickle fossil]

It's made of plywood, man.

Don't question it.

[peak ether]

They don't have bad coms they just have a whole bunch of strong ones and then there's one that's mid but not dogshit

[tender aspen]

Got some high quality plywood

[pastel zealot]

a great white shark on a sea of megalodon

[fickle fossil]

Probably three-ply.

[peak ether]

Pretty much

Also they both have a skill called Short Fuse

[tender aspen]

Too generous, more like half ply

[pastel zealot]

quarter ply

[fickle fossil]

Bullet would come out the side if it were half-ply.

[pastel zealot]

fuck you, no ply

[tawdry shell]

i need four-play, four-ply, four-ply, when i cryyyyyyy

[tender aspen]

Gun might fall apart if you just hold the thing

[peak ether]

The only difference is Moze Short Fuse is one of the dumbest Bl skills ever made

[tender aspen]

Held together by my hopes and dreams

[pastel zealot]

what were the devs smoking while making that anyway

[tender aspen]

Smoking some of the good shit that’s for sure

[peak ether]

Tannerite

[eager laurel]

they were smoking on that balatro pack

[pastel zealot]

that premium millenial pack

[tender aspen]

That or smoking some one ply toilet paper

[peak ether]

Oh yeah did you know Hunter Seeker can proc Short Fuse

[violet spear]

That sounds normal and expected.

[peak ether]

Did you know if you hold a GA when a Hunter Seeker procs Short Fuse the GA buffs the Hunter Seeker bullet which buffs the Short Fuse only for the Short Fuse to then get buffed by the GA

[violet spear]

Sounds pretty regular for BL3.

[tender aspen]

Sounds like normal Moze behavior

[peak ether]

Oh and you can slap on URad

[eager laurel]

normal bl3 things

[pastel zealot]

they'll give you all this shit and for enemies to use this on you'll get psychos that get one tapped

[peak ether]

Thank you Bl3

[tender aspen]

Crazy shit happening is very typical bl3, that and not seeing anything

[peak ether]

House probably has zero idea what kind of shit we're talking about

[pastel zealot]

mayhem 598543958235842 super hard difficult ball torture difficulty and the enemies still get one tapped

[eager laurel]

thats why true trials and true takedowns / scaled takedowns are a thing

[pastel zealot]

if not one tapped, two tapped

[tender aspen]

Fire in the skag den would scale with it and we will see new ludicrous Moze damage numbers with that

[pastel zealot]

idunno i play a shitty sniper pet fl4k build

i like supporting nibbles from afar

(i named my skag nibbles)

(i love my skag :3)

[peak ether]

Ah yes

Sniper build on the worst sniper character