bl1-2-tps-media

[tawdry shell]

pretty much everything does

[peak ether]

No actually

Only certain things can

[tawdry shell]

my bad

never play enhanced

[peak ether]

Skagzilla Destroyer Chest and Craw are the ones that immediately come to mind

[peak ether]

I still need to replay through it as everyone

Have only done a Mordy that I deleted

[leaden stag]

I got my saves in order

renamed like 2 chars and erased 3

I kinda got mixed up by importing saves from non enhanced

[misty ember]

rekted

[leaden stag]

one of them seems to be my willow tree fuckery char

cause I know I didnt farm an ajax ogre of all elements by my own will

[peak ether]

Ajax Ogre can only be explosive

Otherwise it wouldn't be an Ogre

[leaden stag]

I got the name wrong then, ah right its ajax spear

but the char also has a pearl ogre if the spears werent enough of a giveaway

[peak ether]

I kinda figured and yeah farming them sucks

I once actually got my 4th Ajax Ogre trying to get a Shock Spear

Body 3 so it was a meh roll

[hollow thorn]

Got both of these toothpicks, which one should i keep?

[thorny wharf]

ok i just wanna share my prized possession 🥹🙏🏼🙏🏼

[oblique kelp]

shoot to the wall and test accuracy. it isn't 100 weapon card's lying

[misty ember]

i didnt think it matter

[oblique kelp]

9226 * 3.1 = 28600,6

8595 * 3.6 = 30942

[violet spear]

Reload time and magazine size are also a faster, especially with possibility that it'll be used with a Bee.

I'd probably go lower reload if using Bee with it.

[median pond]

what do i do

mordecai is nowhere to be seen

[forest yew]

He went out for a drink he'll be back

[violet spear]

Would he be in Tundra Express, on his tower? Might be able to use console commands to get up there.

[median pond]

i dont know how to do thaty

he's not at tundra express

[idle smelt]

Nice

[fiery ingot]

Yay

About freakin time fr

[fair sluice]

Thank you RNG gods

[wheat harbor]

poggers

[idle smelt]

Ope hi random bee drop

[tender aspen]

Reminds me of the story kill thunderball I got from flynt on a pistol only Sal I did, was a lucky day

[hollow thorn]

🥹

[leaden stag]

bizarre weapon parts diff

[tawdry shell]

top one is damn near perfect holy hell

only 100 damage off the one on lootlemon

[leaden stag]

is ax 3000 the top roll

I cant remember

bottom one dropped off a random super bad eridian guardian

[peak ether]

No because it doesn't have a stock

Stock 3 + Mag 5 is 300 btw

Not 3000

But that is a perfect roll

Minus not having a scope

[peak ether]

I just noticed you have an Unforgiven Masher

Lmao

That Skullmasher looks good too

[north prairie]

If i get another volcano istg

[peak ether]

Certain legendaries are more common than others and the Volcano is very common

Most of the Maliwans are actually

Because except for the Rhino they all use accessories and Maliwans can only get elemental accessories so the list of options is small

[north prairie]

Is there a list of the weighted pool?

[peak ether]

No

It's less an intentional thing and more so a quirk of how Legendaries work

And on top of that how common legendaries are is different source to source

[peak ether]

It might be a spin barrel

That's barrel 3

HX is body 5 tho

Which is the best one

[north prairie]

@peak ether what abt this one its stats seem great for only a level 56

Its also x2

[peak ether]

Barrel 5 Body 5 so very good

[north prairie]

Ill try to get good at recognizing parts

[peak ether]

Also that's lvl 68ish not 56

[north prairie]

How do you tell

[peak ether]

I can tell just by looking at the dmg

Unequip to see the real lvl

[north prairie]

Okay

That’ll be my main stinger

For my loadout i want

1 Double Anarchy
1 Stinger

1. Double Savior/Bone Savior
2. Hellfire

And it was 68

[peak ether]

Bone Savior is a down grade

And you don't need 4 SMGs

The Hellfire is enough

[north prairie]

You think so?

[peak ether]

It's not even an opinion

[north prairie]

If ammo regen stacks i think it’ll be a potent sidegrade to the double anarchy that’ll guaranteed keeped me topped up

[peak ether]

It's straight up worse than a normal Savior because it's locked to barrel 3

[north prairie]

So a double savior better than bone savior?

[peak ether]

And Lilith doesn't need the Savior because the Merc has ammo regen on its own

[peak ether]

I prefer Vector accessory over double

Increased fire rate

[north prairie]

I know but i was thinking extra ammo regen i dunno

I was thinking its better than savior because it can drop with a higher max fire rate

[peak ether]

SMG is the deepest ammo pool

[north prairie]

Oh can we take this to bl1 rq

[peak ether]

Does he know

[north prairie]

Oh

[peak ether]

The reason the Bone Shredder can have a higher fire rate is because it can get body 5

The Savior uses a body 3 variant

So you're never seeing a 12.5 fire rate Bone Savior

[peak ether]

This chat is still fine

[north prairie]

Oh okay

[north prairie]

Ahhh

So it is just a downgrade then because bone shredder wont match the saviors DPS

Bone savior*

[peak ether]

If a gun can be a hybrid you should always assume the hybrid isn't worth it

Because a lot of them are downgrades compared to the base legendaries

[north prairie]

Oh wow

Except the Ajax Ogre right?

[peak ether]

That one I'm not sure on

In some aspects yes

Something about the increase tech lvl fucking it over but I don't know the exact details

I just know I hate it

[north prairie]

I see

Oh also

[peak ether]

Also lower theoretical dps

Because Barrel 4 vs 5

[north prairie]

Do you like the Bitch at all? I figure having a nice corrosive SMG maybe would be nice but hellfire+double anarchy probably just juices everything

[peak ether]

It's a more accurate normal SMG

But for a corrosive niche just use a Defiler or Plague

[north prairie]

I figure Hellfire and Double Anarchy really is enough and anything more is overkill but if im already farming chests and vendors i wanna know if theres anything i should look out for if it has good parts

[peak ether]

I don't even use Anarchies anymore

[north prairie]

I have a defiler i scooped up from drop of the day on vending

[north prairie]

Im just a huge fan of normal non unique weapons in borderlands games

Stuff like the Droog Quads CMTs

Its really pleasing to me for some reason

[peak ether]

People over hype the Anarchy title

CMT too

But that's Bl3 stuff

[peak ether]

Most of the heavy lifting is body 5 not the extra pellets

And you can get non body 5 Anarchies and they don't feel good to use

[north prairie]

I know they do

Stuff like the Hex is better it just scratches my brain for some reason

[north prairie]

Yeah i got a real dumpster anarchy

Let me show it

[peak ether]

The reason why Stingers feel so good is because good SMG parts naturally leads to the Stinger title

But even non Stinger SMGs can be good

[north prairie]

Look at how bad this purple one gets mogged im assuming the blue one has the right body and the purple one doesnt but mybe im wrong

[humble junco]

zamn

[peak ether]

Yeah those are pretty shit

[humble junco]

twin is suboptimal, but matching grip is nice

[north prairie]

Nice

[north prairie]

All i know is i hate the thumpers

Even thumpers that seem good just feel horrible because of how slow they are

[peak ether]

Everyone does

Also your Defiler is sad too

And why do you have a Brick/Roland com

[north prairie]

Hellfire as item of the day but the fire rate is ass 🥹

[north prairie]

Oh the Roland com kinda seemed good😭 so i kept it i actually havent checked lootlemon

[peak ether]

Heavy Gunner is indeed the goat

[north prairie]

It just had a lot of words so i was like nice

[tender aspen]

My hornet is sad

[north prairie]

Mag size and fire rate look like good buffs

[peak ether]

It can roll weapon dmg

Which is huge for Roland

[north prairie]

Ohhh weapon dmg plus fire rate then right

I’ll toss it

[trim hinge]

mag size

[peak ether]

Weapon dmg or Fire Rate

Never both

The top passive is what a com always has

[trim hinge]

weapon damage is probably more ammo efficient

[peak ether]

Then it can have 1 of 2 secondary passives

But never both secondaries

[north prairie]

I see

Im using hyperion gift shop for general farming right now it seems vaguely optimal

[peak ether]

On Enhanced yes

They giga buffed it

On og that farm is painfully mid

[north prairie]

The downside is the weapons are one level off from max if they drop at max level but i get a looott of loot, shields and weapons and stuff and i think class mods still drop at max level? Either way i get 2 vending machines for coms and a weapon vendor ontop of that so it seems super efficient

[north prairie]

I heard that. Whats the diff?

[peak ether]

Al 32 vs smth stupid like 231

It's night and day

[north prairie]

Holay

Yeah this legit feels like BL3 loot

I havent had a run not drop a legendary and i average like 3 per run

[peak ether]

The difference is the loot is actually good rolls here

Vs Bl never get the exact thing you want 3

[trim hinge]

thats facts!!

[peak ether]

It's okay I still like you bl3

Until I don't

[trim hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994885704037441546/1495474922024075334/caption.gif

replace this with bl3

[peak ether]

Until I do again

[trim hinge]

same thing

[north prairie]

Class mod farming in 3 is genuinely a nightmare i hate hate hate loathe it

[peak ether]

I haven't played 4 lmao

[trim hinge]

its

a game

its okay

[tender aspen]

Could be way better, but could be worse

[trim hinge]

i would wait until all the content's released to get it

[north prairie]

@peak ether what makes the hellfire so good btw

[trim hinge]

burns

[north prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-speed-fortnite-speed-fortnite-fairs-speed-fairs-that-one-speed-stream-gif-351563929135632665

[peak ether]

I'm not even planning on it right now

I don't even have a system that can run it

[trim hinge]

understandable

[peak ether]

Doesn't have the -40% elemental accessory dmg penalty and a very high tech lvl

(this is a common theme for the Maliwan legendaries)

[north prairie]

Oh um

I think you or someone else said something

Do maliwan weapons drop at a higher rate?

[peak ether]

Yes

[trim hinge]

they are one of the most common manufacturers

[peak ether]

Not as much as Dahl or Tediore but yes

[trim hinge]

tediore being the most?

[peak ether]

It's different for each weapon type

But Maliwan legendaries are by far the most common outside the Equalizer

Which is funny because they're some of the strongest

[north prairie]

Makes me farming for a good hellfire easier

[peak ether]

HX + Barrel 5 is all you need

[north prairie]

This is my best one so far

Fire rate is good but damage can be a decent bit higher

[peak ether]

I can't see the barrel

[peak ether]

3

Wildcat can go

Nothing of value

[north prairie]

I just kept it cuz its a 12.5 but yeah

[peak ether]

I actually don't prefer a max dmg Hellfire

I'd much rather have barrel 5 for increased accuracy

[north prairie]

I see

Makes sense

[peak ether]

One of the reasons I don't like LL

[north prairie]

LL?

[peak ether]

Loot Lemon

[north prairie]

Ahh

[trim hinge]

well it does say max dps

not godroll

[peak ether]

It used to say God roll

And people still treat it as such

[trim hinge]

pretty sure some people did ask levin to make that change

[peak ether]

They're still only showing one roll

And "max dps" still comes off as "best"

[north prairie]

Man ammo regen feels like such a rare roll in a merc for me

[peak ether]

That's because it is

[trim hinge]

eh

i dont see it

[north prairie]

Do you know what the odds are roughly

[peak ether]

The secondary passives aren't weighted evenly

[peak ether]

Depends on source because awesome lvls

[north prairie]

Im mainly farming vendors

[peak ether]

How coms determine the second passive is the material grade

Ammo regen for all weapon type coms is a mat3 effect which is the rarest mat

[peak ether]

I still see people make the jump and it can be a bit annoying explaining otherwise

The worst offenders being all combat shotguns being mag 2

[north prairie]

yeah ive barely seen it

[peak ether]

When I massively prefer mag 5

[north prairie]

This is a fun farm ngl

[peak ether]

Try farming an ammo regen Specter

[north prairie]

Just stop.

😭😭😭

[peak ether]

[north prairie]

maybe i wont need that.. its just snipers right? I’ll only need that for bossing

[peak ether]

I hope you like driving

Craw speedkills

[north prairie]

I’ll be fine with a normal specter i think :]

do you need the extra ammo for craw speedkills

I thought craw was like a 5 shot or something

[peak ether]

SMGs are not good for Craw

[peak ether]

Not with the Penetrator

[north prairie]

No i mean Specter is the sniper class mod right

[peak ether]

Yes

[north prairie]

So ammo regen isnt super necessary right

[peak ether]

Snipers need it the most for mobbing

Thankfully Lilith is the only character I feel their Knoxx com is worth going out of your way for

Ogre just doesn't feel good to use

Truxican Wrestler is a meme

And Marine truly exists

The actual speedkill com for Lil is actually the Professional but that's a drop from Craw himself

[north prairie]

I figure i’d do smgs for mobbing and switch to a specter to boss

[north prairie]

This is voracidous energy

[peak ether]

Not really

Craw is fairly easy

[north prairie]

No i mean the gear being locked behind the boss

None of the guys in BL1 look particularly hard

[peak ether]

Bl1 doesn't push you to your limits so yeah

[north prairie]

From what ive heard the underdome does

I wanna play it and see why people call it the worst dlc

[peak ether]

Somewhat but it's been a few years since I did the 20 roundeds

[peak ether]

It's fine

Hell it might be the one I enjoy the most these days

But don't take my word for it

[north prairie]

I think i’ll like it honestly

[peak ether]

I am the mad man who did every 20 rounder 4 times

[north prairie]

😭

One for each char?

[peak ether]

Ye

[north prairie]

Hey for how much the ogre gets glazed as being the best gun in the game. The top VHs dont really make use out of it

Like i figure its just roland who really gets his money out of it

[peak ether]

I've done every major challenge as every character solo

[peak ether]

Brick

[tawdry shell]

i think people just hype the ajax hybrid up cause it’s so rare

[north prairie]

Thats what i wanna do at least for just Lilith

[tawdry shell]

but yeha it goes crazy on brick

[north prairie]

I can see this being the case for a lot of hybrids

[peak ether]

Brick math is just absurd

[tawdry shell]

any explosive locked weapon will see the best use from him

[peak ether]

Mfw 1+(.61+.15) * (.42)* (.90)

[north prairie]

Oh i forgot the ogre is explosive

[north prairie]

This is starting to look like pokemon

[peak ether]

[north prairie]

Are these like multipliers from perks

[peak ether]

Yes

Explosive dmg * weapon dmg * bullet dmg

It gets

Absurd

Brick is not okay

[humble junco]

I got troled

[peak ether]

Brick is cracked

[north prairie]

Bro got coal

[peak ether]

If you hear anything along the lines of "Brick sucks" or "I mean Brick's okay but his melee stuff is kinda eh or Lilith/Mordy better" they don't know Bl1 to the lvl I do

[north prairie]

Does he not have good survivability? Wheres the catch with him being regarded as like number 3

[peak ether]

He has to put slightly more brain power in

Slightly

But he has the least amount of bad skills

Basically it's just he isn't that popular so people haven't really looked into his nonsense

And Bl1 isn't that popular for people to dig into and really understand

[north prairie]

I see

I think i might do a brick playthrough once im done with lilith

It’ll be a while though im just getting to the meat and potatoes with her

I wanna abuse ogre brick

[peak ether]

I actively tried to make a bad Brick build

I failed

"Avoid dmg buffs go all in on defense?"
You literally can't die short of a colossal misplay

"full glass cannon?"
Everything dies the end

[north prairie]

😭

Okay you sold him for me

Idk i dont trust people when they say X vault hunter is bad

[peak ether]

No VH is bad

[north prairie]

I think what constitutes a good vault hunter is how effective they can be with the least amount of coddling because at the end of the day any VH can be broken

[peak ether]

The only Bl1 VH that actually feels like he comes short of the others is Roland but he still holds his own

[north prairie]

People think Aurelia is horrible except her skill trees actually are VERY good despite prople ragging on her for having a “coop tree” that tree has some of her best skills in it too

Aurelia is the best abuser of the most broken element in borderlands history sorry theres no way she is a conventionally bad VH or poorly designed

[peak ether]

I will always defend Gaige despite her horrifically put together kit

[north prairie]

I get that

I dont know why but i do have my VHs i will defend with my life

[peak ether]

also she has a Cabbie Hat in one of her heads

[north prairie]

Hehe

I was super into battle bots so i have a soft spot for gaige

[peak ether]

If my pfp wasn't obvious I like Cabbie hats

I like them so much I bought one

[north prairie]

Is Asukas hat a cabbie hat?

I have hers so i might technically have a cabbie

[peak ether]

Who?

[peak ether]

Yes

I'm sorry I don't watch anime that much

[north prairie]

Sorry i just assumed from your pfp

[peak ether]

Nah it's fine

But I can show you a magic trick

[north prairie]

Let me see

[peak ether]

Perfect

[north prairie]

Wow

You are so Nippon

[peak ether]

Knowing a bit about a second language is fun because you can do stuff like that

[north prairie]

I wanna learn chinese

Too many chinese fishermen on instagram farming aura i have to tap in and see whats up

[peak ether]

Chinese is beyond me

[north prairie]

What made you learn japanese

[peak ether]

Touhou

[north prairie]

LOL

i love Touhou

You sound like toby fox rn

Who is ur fav 2hu

[peak ether]

I wish

[north prairie]

Be warned mine are incredibly basic

[peak ether]

Youmu

[north prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yellowcatmeow-gif-7347966548632256588

Thats awesome

Mine are Flan and Okuu

Oh and sakuya because i think time stop is the coolest shit evar…

[peak ether]

I have a whole ass folder on my phone dedicated to Youmu fanart

[tawdry shell]

i lik e mastader chifie

[north prairie]

Wow.

[peak ether]

Arbiter>

[tawdry shell]

(i couldn't find the chief soda gif)

[peak ether]

[tawdry shell]

i find them kinda equal now

[north prairie]

Friends know me by flan and they assume its because of the dessert.. (thats like a quarter true i really do like flan)

[tawdry shell]

same with cortana, very hard to pick between the 3

[north prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

This is me popping phasewalk when the sky lighting decides to bug out

[peak ether]

I remember I had my Xbox language set to Japanese for like 3 years

[north prairie]

Im a touhou fan whose favorite video game is metal gear who also likes VNs if i saw me i would assume im the larp final boss

[peak ether]

Eventually someone here was bored and decided to play Tps in Japanese and I could tell exactly where they were in the story from the main menu alone

[tawdry shell]

i vaguely know touhou because of YTPMVs

[peak ether]

Spoilers it was R&D

[north prairie]

How bored do you have to be to play TPS and change the language

Saying this as a big TPS fan😭

[peak ether]

Here it is

One of his friends was doing Lost Legion Invasion and the other was doing Don't Shoot the Messanger

[idle smelt]

Rip the Sal to OP10 run, guess we are doing a different character

[north prairie]

😀

Thats horrible

[tawdry shell]

i swear any corruption screen shots i see its always PS

not dogging on the system, its just odd

[violet spear]

I don't think I've had it happen yet. Always odd to see.

[north prairie]

PS has cloud saves maybe its that.. probably not.

[idle smelt]

I mean the torgue dlc thing is apparently universal

[tawdry shell]

im yet to encounter a charcater corruption on any of the systems i've played

[quick python]

that time i did McNally McNasty

[tawdry shell]

lol i always love the ragdoll phsyics

[idle smelt]

Ig there is just a chance when you enter torgue dlc with hd texture pack it can corrupt your character

[tawdry shell]

wish it was in bl1

[idle smelt]

From everything I saw online it just happens sometimes

[tawdry shell]

wack

[violet spear]

Why have HD texture pack installed then?

[peak ether]

Zazk really liked Tps

[quick python]

i never do, i hear it causes a slew of problems

[idle smelt]

Ps5 wont let me uninstall it and even if I could I cant see without it

[quick python]

there's no manage DLC for it?

[idle smelt]

Nope I can only view whether or not its installed

[north prairie]

Who is zazk

[idle smelt]

And again I cant really see the game without it so

[peak ether]

Someone who used to talk quite often then drama happened

[idle smelt]

I would gladly take being able to play the game and having a chance at character corruption than being unable to see the game

[tawdry shell]

fair enough

[peak ether]

Vision problems?

[idle smelt]

Severe vision problems im probably gonna be fully blind by 30

[peak ether]

Oofh

[idle smelt]

The older lower res textures make my vision basically all blurry

[peak ether]

My right eye vision is not good

Had to shoot bows left handed because of it

[north prairie]

💔

[tawdry shell]

my vision is pretty solid but my hearing is ASS

idk why either

[peak ether]

I'm the opposite

[north prairie]

I had to get glasses recently thought i made it out of the clear and out of nowhere boom eyes went to shit

[peak ether]

My hearing is too good

[idle smelt]

I only have 1 eye and it has deteriorating vision that is unfixable because its unfortunately a brain issue and not an eye issue

[tawdry shell]

i never blast like music or games super loud, and i wear headphones once in a blue moon

[peak ether]

Maybe it's an autism thing

[north prairie]

Also what shield do yall think is best on maya

[tawdry shell]

antagonist prob

[peak ether]

Some people have weaker than normal sense instead of the more commonly known heightened ones

[tawdry shell]

i could see that yea

[tawdry shell]

antagonist is funny when paired with kinetic reflection

[peak ether]

Idk I'm not a doctor

[violet spear]

On PS4 I would delete and redownload the game but not redownload the DLCs I don't want whenever this issue would come up.

[peak ether]

I do know I 100% got the sensitive hearing kind

Makes busy places actual hell

[north prairie]

I trolled lmao

What shield is best on LILITH*

[tawdry shell]

oh

[peak ether]

Pangolins

[tawdry shell]

probably just a high capacity one

or ig she has good health regen too

[peak ether]

I don't like relying on Phasewalk healing

[north prairie]

Yeah im between a high capacity one and a Tough Guy

Tough Guys seem cool but because of Diva i think highest capacity might just be best

[peak ether]

Capacity is better than raw health on Lil imo

I once got a shield up to 4k on her

[north prairie]

Okay i gotcha

And for my grenade mod im just using a transfusion

I dont think it matters a lot

[peak ether]

Betties or Rubberized are what I default to

Transfusions take too long

[tawdry shell]

rubberized betties when

[peak ether]

The extra Bettie grenades just go flying all over the place

[tawdry shell]

lmfao

that'd be insane on an indoor map

imagine that in sledges safehouse

[peak ether]

I KNOW RIGHT

[tawdry shell]

it's easy enough to nuke those hallways already

bl1 grenades feel kinda underappreciated with just how strong they can be

[peak ether]

Even better make it a Longbow so Roland can dupe it with the turret

[tawdry shell]

[peak ether]

"Beware worm I shall destroy you with the power of this small sun before me BEWARE WORM!!!"

"No I'm not hungry the worm is hungry, hungry for me, hungry for you, and hungry for fire"

[north prairie]

New law: dogshit green eridian weapons can no longer spawn in red chests

[peak ether]

But how can I get my killing zombies with shock dmg fix

Yes that actually works

[north prairie]

By using radiance liliths best perk of course

[violet spear]

You need to get lucky with a mystery box or do an easter egg for that I believe.

[peak ether]

Nah any shock eridian works

Literally

It's funny

[north prairie]

Any tips on phasejump timing?

[peak ether]

I used to know the console timing

[violet spear]

Mash that shit like you're making potatoes.

[tawdry shell]

real as hell

[violet spear]

50/50 you either get it or you don't.

[peak ether]

On controller you have to use a melee to pull it off iirc

[tawdry shell]

alternatively run a mod that just lets you jump in phasewalk

[north prairie]

Im on xbox

💔

[tawdry shell]

rip

[peak ether]

Also almost every eridian is only green rarity

[violet spear]

On controller I wait until the end of the action skill. Managed to do it with manually ending it (without melee) but it's just not worth trying to do.

[peak ether]

Bl1 rarities are mostly cosmetic

[violet spear]

You're better off using the natural speed increase and running regularly then trying to extend it with the jump since it likely won't be consistent to do.

[peak ether]

I swear I'm the only one who likes eridians

[north prairie]

How do u get legendary eridians btw

[peak ether]

You don't

[north prairie]

Is it just harder on controller

[peak ether]

Lance chests or elemental Lance soldiers

[tawdry shell]

i like them

[peak ether]

But they're absurdly rare

[violet spear]

Well, you can't set up a macro for it. So. Definitely less consistent.

[peak ether]

In fact I've only ever gotten 2 mega cannons

The other 2 are the only unique items I've never gotten in Bl1

I've gotten
-Every base legendary in the og version
-Every unique
-Every pearl
-Every class mod
-Every other Eridian

-4 Ajax Ogres
-A Tk's Bulldog
-2 Dove Hornets
-A Kyros' Cyclops
-Had Taylor Kobb have the Rhino hybrid in Underdome twice

[north prairie]

4 ajax ogres

Just big and greedy

[peak ether]

The first 3 were shit

4th was mediocre

[north prairie]

Fairs

[peak ether]

In case it wasn't clear

I've played the shit out of Bl1

I currently have 20 fully maxed out characters and that's after deleting more than a few

[north prairie]

BL1 might be my second favorite

Is it yours?

[peak ether]

Yes

Followed by 3

[north prairie]

This game is really nice and laid back honestly i dont know why most people dont talk abt it

[north prairie]

Thats probs my least favorite ngl

[peak ether]

Not much to talk about

That's why

[north prairie]

Its like Bl2>BL1>TPS>BL3 for me

And those first three i genuinely really like

[peak ether]

1>3>Tps>2

[north prairie]

I havent played 4 yet im not terribly interested

[peak ether]

Same

Game looks like a downgrade from 3

[north prairie]

What didnt you like abt 2

[peak ether]

Nothing major

I just prefer 1 and 3

[north prairie]

I’d say the main difference between 2 and everything else is the lack of a power fantasy you have when playing on a higher level without using major glitches or super meta builds

Not sure if that makes me sound like a scrub but like i think its a common opinion and one i stand by

[peak ether]

Outside raids op lvls are still open enough

Bl2 VHs just don't have playstyle variety outright

[north prairie]

Thats fair

TPS had the best VHs imo

Legit all of them besides maybe wilhelm were so fucking fun for me

[peak ether]

Tps VHs are indeed fun

[north prairie]

And wilhelm was at least cool as hell to me

[peak ether]

I still might put Bl2 in my top 10 games of all time

[north prairie]

Ammo regen is cool and all but 90% is so much wtf mordy eating good

[peak ether]

[north prairie]

Honestly BL2 and BL1 probs make it

TPS honorable mention

[peak ether]

Bl1
Library of Ruina
Re4
Bl3
Re6
BlTps
Bl2
FNV
Terraria
Idk what to put here

[north prairie]

Library of Ruina is something i always thought looked cool

Might have to tap in

[peak ether]

It fun

[north prairie]

Whats FNV btw

[peak ether]

Fallout New Vegas

[north prairie]

My mind was thinking Friday Night Vunking 😭😭

FNV def makes mire sense

[peak ether]

Not into rythem games

[north prairie]

Errr my top 10 would legit just be

[tawdry shell]

last one could be ror1 maybe?

[peak ether]

I've honestly kinda fallen off on that game recently so idk

Rusty as hell

[north prairie]

MGS3
MGS5
MGRR
MGS2
MGS1
Pokemon Black/White 2
MGS PW
Borderlands 2
Borderlands 1
MGS4 (its a movie not a game)
Titanfall2 multiplayer when it actually existed
Wadanohara and The Great Blue Sea
Pokemon Showdown (if you can count web browser games)

[tawdry shell]

i can only really think of a top 5 rn

Halo Reach
Borderlands 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Minecraft
Super Smash Bros Brawl

those games have had the biggest impact on me by far

[north prairie]

Surprised no behemoth games are in there

Whats that one called

It was so fucking good

[tawdry shell]

lol i love castle crashers but its not top 5

[north prairie]

Not castle crasheds

[tawdry shell]

probably top 10 tho

[north prairie]

Fauckkkkk

Theres like cats in it do you know what im talking about

The main theme is stuck in my head

[tawdry shell]

Battleblock theater

[north prairie]

YES!!!

[tawdry shell]

it’s getting a remaster soon

[north prairie]

that game is so fucking fire

I fucking love love battleblock theater

[north prairie]

Thats awesome

[peak ether]

If you like VNs it has really good writing btw

[north prairie]

I like VNs even if the writing is poop sometimes

But yes it does intrigue me a lot

[peak ether]

I especially love the Warp train arc

Nothing happens

The train just takes 10 seconds as advertised

Yup

[north prairie]

I wanna get into limbus company too

[peak ether]

I tried to but the live service part is just not for me

And the gameplay is just worse than Ruina

[north prairie]

Yeah this is the part that takes me out too

I only play one gacha

And thats Dokkan for some reason

[peak ether]

Never heard of it

[north prairie]

Its bubble popping with dragon ball characters

I dont even particularly like dragonball it the gameplay and teambuilding is just fun to me

[peak ether]

Yeah I especially dislike shounens

So Dragonball is very much not for me

[north prairie]

I dont like shounens terribly much either besides Hunter x Hunter

Whats your fav anime

Cant say touhou anime if it is btw thats cheating

[peak ether]

Toss up between Hellsing, Girlz und Panzer, or the DMC one

I also remember liking Gakou Gurashi

[north prairie]

For some reason i saw hellsing and girls und panzer and thought of saga of tanya the evil

Thats somewhere in the venn diagram for those😭

[peak ether]

"Hey kids you wanna see a dead body!?"

[north prairie]

I dont know what you are referencing but theres like maybe a 63% chance its hellsing abridged

[peak ether]

It is

[north prairie]

Lmao

Is this a good firefly btw

[peak ether]

Yes

[north prairie]

I’ll nab it

I think i just scooped up a pretty good tempest too

I just want a good merc 🥹

What im rocking rn

Really need the 4. In quicksilver

[peak ether]

343 is better

But that is perfectly fine

[tawdry shell]

i prefer bungie

[peak ether]

Knight shush

[tawdry shell]

[north prairie]

Looks like an okay anarchy?

I think the card damage is a little low but 12.5 fire rate is way better than the 8s ive been getting

Oh wait its not a double

[fiery ingot]

First ever DVL body Skullmasher, but dangit it’s not 3 shot for even higher damage!

[north prairie]

Im dumb lol

[peak ether]

https://youtu.be/_DL_Qo3WdPY?si=aKx9K89rtqYGmt_7

[north prairie]

Whats a 3 shot?

[fiery ingot]

3 shots in the mag. Boosts the damage.

[peak ether]

You're already 1-2 shoting most things

[north prairie]

Oh i didnt know that, must be why the 6 shot defiler i saw had much much less damage than the 2 shot one

[fiery ingot]

Pretty solid still I’d say

[tawdry shell]

mag_5 on revolvers is insane

[fiery ingot]

490 is the highest I’ve seen on the Skullmasher card now

[peak ether]

Yes

[tawdry shell]

+102% Damage
+50% Reload Speed
+30% Equip Speed
+2 Element Level
-4 Mag Size

[north prairie]

Holay

[tawdry shell]

yeah

[peak ether]

We love balanced weapon parts

[tawdry shell]

thats why revolvers with 2 shots always have wild stats

[fiery ingot]

Like my 1380 damage defiler

[peak ether]

Meanwhile sniper mag 3 is okay I guess

I don't like having it

[tawdry shell]

+21% Damage
+15% Reload Speed
+3 Element Level
-3 Mag Size

yeah it's ight

idk why they went so insane with that one part for revolvers

[peak ether]

21%

Take it or leave it

[north prairie]

Yeah im searching for a few things rn

I dont mind if some things are one level underleveled.. i dont think the difference should be much

[peak ether]

It is tiny

[tawdry shell]

what even is bl1's scaling anyways

[peak ether]

Nobody ever goes for lvl69 gear outside grenades

[fiery ingot]

and class mods stay at 55 max for whatever reason

imagine level 68 class mods???

[peak ether]

Logarithmic

[north prairie]

Good Defiler
Good DA
Good Double Savior
Better Merc COM
maybe slightly hetter hellfire

[north prairie]

So this general farm will let me get some thinks knocked off the list

Plus i just got a penetrator. Dunno how good it is but apparently i might want that

[tawdry shell]

the cooler lyuda

[north prairie]

Can someone explain to me why sometimes x2 smgs have the double prefix and why they sometimes dont

[peak ether]

Prefix priority

Certain ones have a higher priority and override lower ones

[north prairie]

Okay because i see my same exact model of gun having a double prefix vs mine having a steel prefix and they both have a x2 on them

Steel must be a good prefix maybe

[peak ether]

No

Technically

It doesn't do anything

But it's Torgue's mat 3 prefix

So sometimes it'll override an actually good prefix

On SMGs it's not an issue because they don't have a prefix you'd specifically want

[north prairie]

I think i mustve rolled near perfect on that steel stinger then because no x2 stinger is really reaching its damage and fire rate numbers

[fiery ingot]

9 calibers, 200% critical hit damage on this Skullmasher, 3 shot GGN, 488 x 6, than an extra 100% on the sniper com, might just be 336% sniper rifle critical hit damage

my oh my

[peak ether]

But MGs do so sometimes you want mat 2 rolls instead

[north prairie]

I see

MGs are really fun in BL1 btw

I love SNS 🥹

[tawdry shell]

*S&S

[peak ether]

SnS thankfully doesn't have Mat prefixes

[north prairie]

We are gonna kill you brochacho.

[tawdry shell]

[north prairie]

SnS farms more aura than bandit and cov combined which isnt a lot but still SnS w

[peak ether]

They denominate their mats with a .2 or .3 at the end of the parts code

[north prairie]

This is getting complicated can you just tell me if my gun is good for the next 40 years of your life

[peak ether]

No

[north prairie]

🥹

💔

[peak ether]

Only Atlas and Torgue use only prefix for mats iirc

[north prairie]

Oh hey a slight upgrade to my hellfire

[peak ether]

But Dahl, Maliwan, and Hyperion still have prefixes despite also using the parts code which is annoying

[north prairie]

I wish lootlemon showed me pictures of the parts so i could better identify them by eye

Is there a google doc or something

[peak ether]

Vladof, Tediore, Jakobs, and SnS don't have prefixes at all

[north prairie]

What

[peak ether]

Material prefixs

[north prairie]

Oh

😭 my bad

Im just so overhwhelmed with parts right now

Is there a good resource for learning about them that isnt LL

[peak ether]

Most of the complexity is in weapon titles tbh

[north prairie]

Also would you consider the slightly more accurate for slightly less damage one an upgrade

[peak ether]

The actual parts themselves are somewhat simpler than 2

[peak ether]

Yes

4 dmg is nothing

[north prairie]

Getting rid of my shit roll DA goodbye

[peak ether]

Dark Army in Bl1

[north prairie]

wtf true.. time to abuse Iron Bear

[peak ether]

Zane

If you know you know

[north prairie]

Im afraid im a lvl 1 zane knower

[peak ether]

When the DA drones spawn they inherit how much gun dmg you had when they spawned and keep it permanently

So if you spawn them in while going full speed as Zane they keep that VM dmg until you swap off

[north prairie]

Theres always some bullshit going on in bl3 i dont know about

Is it the same for the guardian?

[peak ether]

[north prairie]

I just know both of those guns have affects that work even when it probably shouldnt

[peak ether]

GA is a free 500% dmg increase for anything

You tell me

[north prairie]

😭

Dude im actually addicted to this farm

[fiery ingot]

One day I’ll get the max damage whitting’s… idk why I want it, would be neat to have

[lilac thorn]

I need help killing terramorphus daaam

[north prairie]

Oh btw @peak ether any snipers i should keep my eye peeled for

I just know Skullmash is good
Penetrator is good

[tawdry shell]

orion

[north prairie]

Im passing by every other sniper pmuch

Is orion a mobbing or a bossing sniper

[tawdry shell]

both i guess? it's not meant for craw himself though

but it's super good against everything else

honestly the only legendary sniper i don't use is the cyclops

i don't like the zoom

[north prairie]

I know its lootlemon but this should be a decent roll

[tawdry shell]

besides that the rest can all be very good

yooo is that the pill scope

[peak ether]

Onion

[peak ether]

No

[tawdry shell]

[peak ether]

Torgue Thunders

Cobra

Wraths

[fiery ingot]

I want THAT 1082 Orion

I sadly have an 897 one

[peak ether]

Hyperion Lances

[north prairie]

Kinda lucky blue mentioned it as it was in my face

[peak ether]

There's a lot of good snipers

[tawdry shell]

actually i don't use the volcano a whole lot either

[north prairie]

I wish the silent night wasnt locked to that horrendous scope

[peak ether]

I still don't know if the Silent Night lives up to hype/complaints

[north prairie]

I think this should be a decent defiler. Its got the right fire rate and mag

Sorry one question. Why the defiler over a corrosive smg?

[tawdry shell]

defiler is just hands down like the best corrosive gun in the game

will probably still be stonger then a corrosive smg

since the merc com has one boost for SMGs and the rest is all for any weapon, so it's getting boosted regardless

[north prairie]

I see

[north prairie]

@peak ether

Are you still on

I think im done farming

I dont think its gonna get much better

[sacred lintel]

Pretty sure i saw one of these in vendor yesterday and just left it 😪

[peak ether]

Yeah that one's good

[peak ether]

SMGs aren't great elemental guns

Is the big reason

[north prairie]

Is the damage penalty that bad

[wooden vault]

whered you find such a good steel anarchy agdjebd

[peak ether]

Yeah

Also not very consistent procs and the explosion doesn't do a lot of dmg

But for some reason the dmg penalty for the explosive SMG accessory is 20% vs the 40% for all the other non unique elemental accessories

Hellfire is so strong because it has these downsides removed

[north prairie]

Farming hyperion gift shop for hours 🥹

[north prairie]

I see

[north prairie]

I got some REAL stinkers before i got this

[north prairie]

Can i find epic class mods from this mission?

[north prairie]

Okay i found my answer and im straight up just gonna take this this farm was horrible

[peak ether]

Bl1 Rarities don't mean much

Just because a roll is purple doesn't mean it's good

[north prairie]

I know but a lot of the stuff i was getting at lower rarities was ass

[peak ether]

Every good roll is purple but not every purple roll is good pretty much

[north prairie]

I mean look at last night

[peak ether]

However I did find an all 3 skill ammo regen blue once

[north prairie]

This purple anarchy was so ass😭😭

[north prairie]

I wouldve snapped at that

[peak ether]

I didn't

Because I know it being blue has zero effect on stats

[violet spear]

More mag size is kinda huge imo.

[north prairie]

Fairs but its still a pretty ass anarchy

149dmg with 8.3 fire rate

[peak ether]

Deserved for such an over hyped weapon title

[violet spear]

TRUE

[north prairie]

Can you help sell me on the hellfire

[peak ether]

Range and ammo

DoTs

[violet spear]

Shoot each of an enemies limbs and watch them die to dot.

[peak ether]

Anarchies aren't doing something I need

So I stop picking them up

[violet spear]

Also Hellfire is like using a Stinger with the trade-off of moderately less damage for absolutely decimating most enemies with dot.

[north prairie]

Im using it and the DA kinda smokes it damage wise and my stinger feels about the same for range. DOTs are cool but it only feels applicable on bosses which i feel like the DA does a lot better

[violet spear]

Don't sleep on the BL1 DOTs. Shit's crazy.

[north prairie]

It feels like an inbetween of the DA and the Stinger

[peak ether]

Stinger title only buffs accuracy iirc

[north prairie]

Where im getting good bossing damage with better range but if i have a good stinger and a good DA i dont know how i feel abt my hellfire

[peak ether]

It's just the best SMG parts always lead to that title

[violet spear]

Interesting. Probably bad luck on my end for the Hellfire.

But yeah I'll use a Hellfire as a Stinger readily. Double Anarchy is just... irritating to use comparatively.

[north prairie]

I also think i probably have perfect/near perfect rolls on my Stinger and DA as opposed to my Hellfire which is just good. So maybe theres a bit of disparancy (this is not a real word i dont know what im looking for) regarding comparing them

[violet spear]

Discrepancy.

[peak ether]

Last I checked your Hellfire had body 5

[north prairie]

Im not sure this is it

This is gonna bother me i gotta find what im trying to say

[peak ether]

Disparity

[violet spear]

That's for sure the one.

[north prairie]

Yes😭

I think i combined the two

[peak ether]

But what makes Bl1 DoTs so good is they're a %of enemy health

[north prairie]

I see

[peak ether]

And enemies have multiple regions that can take DoTs

So if you have a gun that puts out a lot of chances they evaporate

Hellfire does this

[north prairie]

So wouldnt i want a Double Hellfire then?

[peak ether]

Those can't exist

[north prairie]

Oh

Hmm

[peak ether]

The Hellfire accessory is already in that part slot

[violet spear]

Thankfully they can't exist. I see the Anarchy get glazed enough already.

[peak ether]

Same reason elemental Anarchies don't exist

[north prairie]

Hellfire really isnt good in knox dlc cuz every enemy is armored right

[peak ether]

Their heads aren't

[north prairie]

I see

[tawdry shell]

it's a good thing they dont

[north prairie]

I dont actually know what enemies are weak to what im just assuming most of the time

[peak ether]

Honestly wouldn't be that broken

[north prairie]

If elemental anarchies existed🤤

[tawdry shell]

ehhh

when i tested em they were kinda nutty

[north prairie]

I think they’d be pretty broken

[tawdry shell]

granted it was x3 bullets instead of 4 but still

[peak ether]

Can we remove the Wildcat title from the game but keep the mag

[north prairie]

Is the wildcat that ass

[peak ether]

The title is the only thing stopping it from being noteworthy

If it could get non unique titles it would always be an Anarchy

W/o the double accessory

Which makes it x3

[north prairie]

What enemies do yall actually use the defiler on is it just the armored craw worms atp

I think im not understanding BL1

[peak ether]

Everything

Defiler is a war crime

[north prairie]

Is defiler kind of an opening weapon to apply corrosive DoT? Im confused on its application

[peak ether]

It kills shit is what its application is

[north prairie]

I think i just metagamed so hard that im realizing it feels super unecessary

[peak ether]

I don't even feel you have metagamed that much

You just used what you wanted and it worked

[north prairie]

Honestly ur right but i want to metagame harder if i can

I just dont understand the application of certain guns

And i want to

[tawdry shell]

most of the meta gear for bl1 is just weapons that kill well lol

[peak ether]

^

There aren't many utility items

[north prairie]

You say defiler can kill but my smgs already just delete anything in front of me. So i feel like the only use case is the armored craw worm which feel like the only enemy that can take a decent bit of damage that is weak to corrosive

I was kinda seeing the defiler as a utility item

[peak ether]

You clearly haven't used it enough

[tawdry shell]

despite the whole weak to fire on the head thing i still focus corrosive for lance enemies

[north prairie]

You know what

Im trolling

My proficiency isnt even close to max im probably losing a lot of stats from my defiler anyhow

[tawdry shell]

https://www.lootlemon.com/weapon/troll-bl1

[peak ether]

+42% dmg is +42% dmg

[tawdry shell]

[north prairie]

I think rakk hive is the farm for proficiency

[tawdry shell]

yuh

[peak ether]

I do guardians

[tawdry shell]

god this thing is so ass

why didn't they make it percentage based at least

[peak ether]

Those stats aren't even bad lmao

[north prairie]

I might do guardians gotta find a good shock revolver

[tawdry shell]

the healing is bad i mean

[peak ether]

It's funny

[tawdry shell]

it's like the troll pet in castle crahsers

[peak ether]

And for that reason I tolerate its existence

[north prairie]

Also do yall tend to farm craw at max level to hit up knoxx chests too

[peak ether]

I prefer farming Craw

Over armory

[north prairie]

so you farm it on playthrough 1 then im assuming

[peak ether]

Yeah

[north prairie]

I had to turn aim assist off on console that shit was so horrible for hitting craws crits

[peak ether]

A Body 1 Dmg accessory Skullmasher+ Weapon dmg Heavy Gunner is all Roland needs to 1-2 shots his limbs in pt1

[tawdry shell]

i do both

craw is fun but the armory is super chill

love the music too

[north prairie]

Im less precise (also because my proficiency is low)

I just one tap his back with a silent night and spray at his face with a DA and he goes down quick

[peak ether]

The annoying thing about snipers tho is they don't get reload speed from their prof so if you get a slow reload roll you kinda just have to deal with it

Anarchy is not a good Craw option

[tawdry shell]

i mean it works

[peak ether]

No crit
Low dmg
Low accuracy

[north prairie]

I still shredded him fast on playthrough 2 with a DA. I didnt expect it to work well but it kinda did

[peak ether]

It's too slow imo

There's way faster options

[north prairie]

I legit just hip fired a couple mags into him and it popped all his limbs

[peak ether]

Bessie
Penetrator
Mashers
Skullmasher
Silent Night

[north prairie]

Yeah its no speedkill but it was surprisingly efficient for what it was

I’ll switch off of the silent night when i max out my proficiencies

[tawdry shell]

Stock Combat Shotgun
Stock Combat Pistol

[north prairie]

I just wanna be able to one tap him, i hope i didnt lock out one tapping him with anything other than the Silent Night by grabbing an 80% crit com

[peak ether]

You don't need max sniper crit to do it

[north prairie]

Yeah i just used the silent night to make sure i could one tap his weak spots because i had low proficiency and a non god roll spectre

I wanna be able to do it with a fast sniper

Whichever is easiest

[tawdry shell]

the rider

[peak ether]

You could honestly use Craw to farm your sniper proficiency

He gives a lot of XP per kill

[north prairie]

Interesting

[tawdry shell]

some people just use craw as an xp farm outright

[north prairie]

How many kills do you think to max it. I have no idea

[peak ether]

Thx for reminding me I can do this split screen

[tawdry shell]

i think i remember seeing funko farm him from like 60 to max

[peak ether]

He did

I was there

[north prairie]

Oh my god

You said 60 to max and i thought the cap for proficiencies was 100 for some reason

[peak ether]

It took multiple attempts because it was his first time fighting him too

[tawdry shell]

lmfao

[north prairie]

Craws mobs are the scariest part about craw

[peak ether]

His shock weapon was a fucking Thanatos

[tawdry shell]

good lord

[north prairie]

Is the thanatos bad i rolled a max DPS one and banked it but i never hear anyone talk about it so i assumed i banked a turbo ass weapon

[peak ether]

It can be good

But its mag doesn't lead to a giant spike in power

[north prairie]

I see

[peak ether]

Don't think of legendaries like a distinct weapon just think of them as a non unique that has a rare part

Because that's what they are

A Hellfire isn't strong because it's a Hellfire it's strong because the accessory is

The special name and rarity exist to tell you the gun has the rare part

[sacred lintel]

@violet spear

[violet spear]

Huh. Neat. First time I've seen a use for the no grenade mod grenade jump.

[sacred lintel]

oh dam 😁

[hollow thorn]

Is that matching grip and and stock?

[eager laurel]

yes

but no accessory

[violet spear]

Just take it.

[hollow thorn]

HOLY FUCK

[violet spear]

The one time not taking it worked out.

[hollow thorn]

Im read only farming for fire actually

ill still save this one

[eager laurel]

you can stash them

[violet spear]

We take the shock one 100% of the time.

[hollow thorn]

thats what i do fr

[hollow thorn]

What even is the chance of that

[eager laurel]

like 1/9000

[hollow thorn]

WHAT

[tender aspen]

Sexy

Even Maliwan sight nice

[hollow thorn]

Honestly not picky with sights

i can work with any fr :3

[eager laurel]

uh 1/5 grip
1/5 stock
1/26 accessory
1/14 shock element
dont care about sight but its like 10/15 for no sight iirc

[eager laurel]

i was wrong, smg sights and no sight all have the same weight for sandhawk

so its 1/6 for a specific sight

[north prairie]

First pearl on my second run :]

[violet spear]

Of course it's the Undertaker.

[peak ether]

I'mma be real with you

The Undertaker is one of maybe 3 pearls I still care about

[violet spear]

Entirely valid. I just think it's funny how often it shows up.

I'm still salty that I lost my Serpens way back. Wish that one showed up this much.

[north prairie]

Is it any good?

[peak ether]

Body 1 so it's okay

[north prairie]

Oh i mean in general

[peak ether]

No wait nvm that's body 5 yes

[peak ether]

Yeah it's good

One of the better launchers

[north prairie]

Whats the best you think

I assume launchers are mainly for FFYL

[violet spear]

Launchers can just be generally good. I'm a big fan of Helix launchers.

Like using a Torgue shotgun in 2 kinda.

[real oracle]

they have the ammo to be actually usable in this game its just that they're undertuned usually

[violet spear]

Launcher Roland is a bunch of fun.

[peak ether]

Nidhogg, Helixs, Undertaker

Bl1 launchers are best used for carpet bombing crowds

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They just happen to also be good when you don't wanna aim much.

The ground isn't a moving target, and sometimes you just wanna zone out.

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Until the ground decides to eat your rockets