bl1-2-tps-media

[peak ether]

Meanwhile the licensed parts system just sounded horrific on paper

[shrewd rampart]

And honestly most of us have ceased playing games. BL2 came out fourteen years ago. Not many of us "Old Guard" left playing from when it was released.

[peak ether]

And now that the game is out it sounds like Bl3 part variation but worse

With worse than bl2 drop rates

So literally the worst aspects of both

[shrewd rampart]

Oh god...

BL2 drop rates are horrendous.

Whoever thought up the drop nonsense with second gen pearls needs to be smacked.

[peak ether]

Yeah I'll stick to 1 and 3 thank you

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah I started gibbing after a while. There is only so much grinding can be done before you just flip the game board.

[peak ether]

Pretty much 4 doesn't offer me anything 1 2 and 3 don't already

So I have no interest in it

I don't even have hardware strong enough to play it

I just don't feel like I'm missing out on much

[shrewd rampart]

TPS gave me that feel after Borderlands 2. A lot of 'been there, done that', and I felt that with games beyond Halo 3, Gears of War 3, and some other titles.

Like "okay...what else ya got?".

[peak ether]

Tps feels different enough from 2 to justify its existence

[shrewd rampart]

Eh it felt too similar to BL2 while having a lot less content.

At least for me anyways.

[plain venture]

Guys idk if this is the right channel but I recently started to play bl2 this week and I'm doing sidequests and I cant find the guy im supposed to be able to find

[shrewd rampart]

On that note, I need to head off. It was good talking to you. Have a good one.

[peak ether]

また明日

I hope I used the right Kanji

[fair igloo]

1 is my favorite in the series based on nostalgy and nostalgy alone, but if i had played the 3 games at the same time, tps would be my favorite

[plain venture]

I also can't send pics for some reason... but I'm trying to find Freighter to give matchstick

[peak ether]

?vh

[serene escarp]

The Vault Hunter role allows you to upload and embed pictures and other media in certain channels and stream to VC. It also allows Nitro users to use external emotes. The Vault Hunter role is an activity role and requires you to reach level 2 with the Lurkr bot. All you have to do to level up is to chat with other users in the server.

[peak ether]

^

Gotta talk a bit

[plain venture]

.vh

[peak ether]

It's the back of the arena you fought Flynt in

[plain venture]

The fire dude?

[peak ether]

I'm mostly biased towards 1 and 3

[peak ether]

Yes

[plain venture]

Oh okie

Wait... I dont think I've fought flynt yet

Ive fought flynn

[fair igloo]

how do you have the cult following mission if you haven't fought captain flynt

[plain venture]

I have no idea

I just killed him

He was dead easy

But I am at the area the marker said and freighter isnt there 😭

[fair igloo]

freighter is a name for a ship, you're on it

[rare valve]

you couldn't

with the way quest progress works, you can't not kill flynt and still progress the story

[rare valve]

there is nobody named flynn

[plain venture]

Ok so ive done

1. Blindsided
2. My First Gun
3. Medical Mystery
4. Handsome Jack here
5. Bad Hair Day
6. Symbiosis
7. This town ain't big enough
8. Cleaning up the berg
9. Shielded Favours
10. Best Minion Ever
11. Plan B
12. Rock, paper, genocide: shock weapons
13. Claptraps secret stash
14. Assassinate the Assassin's
15. Rock, paper, genocide: slag weapons
16. Do no harm
17. The name game
18. RPG fire weapons
19. The road to sanctuary
20. RPG corrosive weapons
21. Cult following: false idols
22. Hunting the firehawk
23. Cult following eternal flame

Thats what ive done, not sure if its in order or not but this is what ive completed

[tawdry shell]

i wouldn’t recommend doing all side missions unless your in uvhm

[rare valve]

i mean if it's their first playthrough it's fine

they can experience the content

[tawdry shell]

fair ig

[plain venture]

I cant really progress because I'm not a high enough level to defeat the next boss.

[rare valve]

who's the next boss, what level are they and what level are you

[plain venture]

They are level 13 I'm level 12. My brother told me I need to get to level 14 to be safe

[rare valve]

ah at that point it's not that big of a deal

[tawdry shell]

one level difference won’t matter much

[rare valve]

pretty much all bosses in the game are 1-2 levels higher than the "intended" level you're supposed to fight them at

so for a level 13 boss, you're supposed to be at least level 11, so 12 is perfectly fine

you could overlevel but it's not necessary

my advice would be to always try first and then determine whether you should go and level up or get better gear if you can't do it, rather than worry beforehand that you're not gonna be able to do it

if something isn't going well then you can always leave the boss, ask afterwards for suggestions on how to improve and then return later

but chances are, if you're doing every quest, killing most of the enemies you come across and picking up item upgrades as you go along, you're at the stage you're supposed to be at

doesn't mean you have to play that way, but it seems to me that it is what you're doing, so you can keep doing that and be fine (and it's what i'd recommend for the first time going through the game anyway)

[plain venture]

Okie thank you. My older brother came on and helped me through... I had fought flynt it turns out... I just read it as flynn. My story mission is A Dam Fine Rescue

[rare valve]

yeah you can't not kill flynt, they're a major story boss

[wide fog]

look at ose being helpful

[brazen flame]

is claptrap religious?

[violet spear]

Canonically yes but towards the Almighty Robot Police Man, not the god you're thinking of.

Touched on by Wilhelm and Customs-TP in TPS. Probably also by Claptrap himself.

[peak ether]

"Thank the Almighty Robot Police Man I lost my sense of smell"

[brazen flame]

I mean I would have accepted deathtrap as such too, but only the console deathtrap is god

and somehow trinity krieg fits in

[fair igloo]

got my hyperion allegiance timothy run going

[tawny peak]

warrior drop

[fair igloo]

i feel like using a vgrip on that would break your arm in 2

or sprain your wrist

[fair igloo]

@peak ether

[peak ether]

I don't like the Pandoracorn skins

[fair igloo]

i love it bc i grew up with ninjago since season 1(the pilot season, not season 2 that's called season 1 for some reason) and pink ninja was a great bit

[peak ether]

I just don't like the shade they choose

It doesn't look appealing to me

[fair igloo]

fair

pink used to be my favorite color

[peak ether]

It's mine

[fair igloo]

now it's dark blue

[peak ether]

Has been since like

Elementary

[fair igloo]

also i like it when shades are easily distinguishable bc my specific breed of colorblindness makes it so lighter colors are hard to tell apart

i quite dig this one ngl

[fair igloo]

@peak ether i like it

[fair igloo]

the perfect parking spot

[fair igloo]

i'm great at parking

[brazen flame]

Just showing crappy part lvl 5 kerblaster against badmaw. normal mode isnt tvhm but still pretty trivial

Sorry for quality lol gotta keep gif size low

better quality double size

Also just have 4 points in impact and 1 point in preparation

[shrewd rampart]

You can use https://imgur.com/ for gifs for any that you might be able to upload on here otherwise.

[shrewd rampart]

You can pin, stalkers at the least, with Axton if you time throwing his turret right:

[deft forge]

this game just thinks its so funny

torgue grip on any harold except for a dpuh

dude i just got torgue grip intense i hate this game

ive gotten torgue grip on every harold except a dpuh

FINALLY

[violet spear]

Why are you going for a DPUH in Normal Mode?

The ammo consumption being so high makes it literally the only prefix that you wouldn't want for Normal, where you lack SDUs.

[deft forge]

im in op5

[violet spear]

Oh shit my bad 💀

Still odd though, unless you're Sal. With damage prefix and fire rate both being generally better in my experience.

[peak ether]

Dpuh is worst on Sal

It destroys your Overkill bonus

[deft forge]

im on krieg

[violet spear]

Right. Was still thinking about Normal Mode. Misread so bad it threw me off mentally.

[violet spear]

Hard and Intense would both be better then.

[deft forge]

i have plenty of ammo

[candid pond]

Not entirely abt ammo

[wild plume]

what is that

[tender aspen]

Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold you mean?

[wild plume]

o

idk much about parts

i wanna learn them but it's hard

[tender aspen]

Didn’t take me too long to learn them

And my attention span is pretty shit ngl

[wild plume]

it's still kinda hard idk

[violet spear]

Compare your parts to the ones on the parts site as you get drops and you start to learn pretty quickly.

[tender aspen]

Yeah that’s how I learned

[grizzled oracle]

inconceivable

[brazen flame]

why didnt they let us jump this bridge

[fair igloo]

another addition to my best parking spot saga

[brazen flame]

I want the flashlight accessory tbh

[fair igloo]

more parking bullshittery

[peak ether]

How did you even accomplish number 2

[candid pond]

Bros who i drive next to every day omw to work

[glass jewel]

What do I do here

[candid pond]

Keep running around the edge

You will find an area on the inside part that drops down

[formal pulsar]

did whole game except armory and moxi arena

[glass jewel]

So it’s random then..

[candid pond]

No

You go inside then outside then inside then outside n keep going till you find it

[fair igloo]

check number 4, do you know the room i'm in

number 2 is simple, i just boosted accidentally

you can pull out of 1 and 2, but can't from 3 and 4

[peak ether]

The room Moxxi's secret exit leads to

[barren cobalt]

Just keep going overall forward. To go forward you sometimes go left, right, up, or down. Go anywhere you can go that's not back the way you can't.
There is no randomness, it's just a circle that looks similar throughout the whole thing. The minimap is not helpful if its your first time.

I think i got stuck at a point where you have to jump to a floating platform. It's not a hard jump, just doesn't realize icould/should immediately.

[fair igloo]

yup

have you ever tried to get a car in there

[peak ether]

No

[fair igloo]

found this beauty in a vendor

[tawny peak]

after so many resets, and almost giving up, I was about to take the next bandit grip corrosive, but damage prefix just decided to show itself.

I know I should be farming these perfects in uvhm but I don't think that far.

[fair igloo]

why is this happening?

it's worked fine before

[cobalt wagon]

my skill tree so far @shrewd rampart

[shrewd rampart]

I would move the skill points from Fuel the Rampage into Strip the Flesh. When you get Release the Beast so long as you pop off Buzzaxe Rampage below 33% health you can just chain it repeatedly with the cooldown not touched at all.

[cobalt wagon]

ye but i don't have it already so i'm keeping fuel the rampage for now so i can spam it as soon as i get low

[cobalt wagon]

also is buzz axe bombardier good?

[shrewd rampart]

Yes. Yes it is.

Also it is ill advised popping off BxR when low on health as while it does boost your melee damage if you get dropped into FFYL you lose it and have to wait for it anyways. Release the Beast heals you back to max while it goes through its animation.

Going from Mania into Bloodlust is usually the path to go whilst leveling up without having to worry about gear.

[cobalt wagon]

wrong screen shot mb, this is the skill tree i was thinking of going for

[shrewd rampart]

Something like this:

https://bl2skills.com/psycho.html#50500515550150500005055100000000000

[cobalt wagon]

is this good tho? i have all dlc's so i can reach level 80

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah it can work, but it doesn't hurt to experiment to see what works for you with talents and gear. You can respec later and unless you die A LOT with have enough cash to reroll as much as you wish.

[cobalt wagon]

wait can buzz axe bombardier proc bloodsplosion/bloodbath?

[shrewd rampart]

Yep

[cobalt wagon]

dang so it's op

[shrewd rampart]

It is also affected by Blood Bath and Fuel the Blood.

[cobalt wagon]

is the red tree any good tho?

[shrewd rampart]

Hellborn is noticeably more gear dependant than the other two.

It is probably the least beginner friendly of the three.

[cobalt wagon]

no wonder why it's only based on setting yourself on fire :/

[shrewd rampart]

It combines pretty well with Bloodlust's talents.

[cobalt wagon]

thanks dude, appreciate it.

[peak ether]

Not yet

Fuel the Rampage is good here because you can't get UtB yet

[modest forum]

Is it weird that I am using Lazer guns in all 4 slots?

[forest yew]

Nah, only thing bad is your ammo deleting itself lol

[modest forum]

Good thin I have Laser Focus
20% laser Damage
12% Laser Magazine Size.

[forest yew]

The e gun is a personal fav with wilhelm, does alot of damage even if it's not on level

[modest forum]

Something I made with the grinder.... honsty kind of disappointing.

[candid pond]

Sounds like every time I use the grinder

[fair igloo]

sure is

[midnight mesa]

It's very bluey

[oblique kelp]

this hero's pass chest... maybe the fastest farm in the game but vendor and teleport not here sadly

[hollow prism]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLD0xpLOMZybqGiOXh-HTJt94Dpy2SHJO?si=K9MZTbZWWbvEa9iT I made a clip, ignore my shitty mic and volume settings. This is modded with BL2fix, UCP, and my own homemade mod which removes kunai self damage.

[hollow prism]

I wouldn't take trance personally and I'd put at least one point into thrill of the kill or whatever the cross skill is called. The one that heals you per kill.

The reason you don't want the extra duration is for cycling Release the Beast (the capstone of blue) to heal, and you want downtime in order to set up slag with betties/transfusions

It's also just wasted skill points since you have 100% uptime with release the beast anyways

[fair igloo]

it's also a great chest for the lootable challenge

[cobalt wagon]

i just got this bee shield on my first run, can someone tell me if it has good parts?

[eager laurel]

tediore capacitor +1 special, torgue battery -5 special, so a -4 special grade isn’t great

if this is normal mode just take it, there’s no point in farming any longer

[cobalt wagon]

okay, thanks. I don't need it anyways i'm running a rr-rtb krieg build so i don't need it. I got it while killing the trees for the blood fruits

[eager laurel]

just take the ones with higher amp damage and lower recharge delay, but then again you never use it on krieg

except car stuff or dexi

[cobalt wagon]

by the way, dealing upwards on 129k dmg with melee with krieg at level 36 is good or should it be higher?

[eager laurel]

no clue

if it kills, it’s good

[cobalt wagon]

i oneshot all mobs and have an easy time with all bosses

[barren cobalt]

Sounds like whatever you are doing is working for your mode

[glass jewel]

My loadout in tps

[barren cobalt]

Noice

[plain venture]

So this happened about 5 days ago.... looks so bad

[tawny peak]

did we find it?

the longest name in the game?

I know it had something to do with a bouncing betty

it was incendiary wasnt it..

[fair igloo]

decided to finally start a maya

[fair igloo]

hornet from mission knuckledragger

this maya run is going good

[willow python]

perfect roll?

[tender aspen]

Yeah.. some say torgue stock is better but Hyperion stock still works well

[willow python]

ive pulled 2 of those so far i was just wondering, 1 slag and 1 fire

[eager laurel]

wrong element and stock but yeah

[tender aspen]

Slag isn’t really something you’d need on the interfacer.. at least imo

Fire is generally gonna be more effective so you’d be better using that one

[midnight talon]

Thanks, I appreciate it

[stark osprey]

Good jack build?

[fervent light]

Hey does anyone wanna start a fresh playthrough with me

Of borderlands 2

[past storm]

Is this good?

Idk why is like that

[cunning sable]

Two Fer kills the maggie

The grip is perfect but the prefix ruins it

[past storm]

Dang

Sadly i ended the quest

One of them killed the last member and completed the quest

I mean with bar my accuracy isn’t bad

[cunning sable]

You can kill Mick again
He respawns

[candid pond]

Literally this but dastardly

Also tvhm you dont need a great maggie

Any maggie will put in solid work two fer just the worst

[past storm]

That was my first drop

I wasn’t farming for a good Maggie I just wanted one

[fair igloo]

why is there a grenade on it

[eager laurel]

That’s the elemental part

[fair igloo]

ah, it's explosive

[fair igloo]

first of all, #1354561905871552573
secondly, what platform

[magic rivet]

@hollow prism Hope you don't mind the ping, here's my current build at 41, playing 360 so sorry for screenshot

[magic rivet]

@hollow prism here you go. The middle two guns are current level while the shredder is 28 just because i haven't gotten a decent electric weapon yet, might have to resort to a white

[hollow prism]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/salvador#_55000000000_50450104151_00000000000

I'd go with this build. No money shot, but I don't think Money Shot is doing too much for you at your level unless you intentionally abuse it which is difficult without specific gear. You'll get it in the next 5 levels anyways. Right now, what's important is survivability and gunzerking as long as possible

[magic rivet]

Thank you I'll try this out. Any other suggestions?

[hollow prism]

I sent some in the main channel

[magic rivet]

Owie

[hollow prism]

Oh my god another one

It's a lower level for some reason even though it was a level 39 warden

[lusty falcon]

Thank you for the powerful shotgun Michael Mamaril you legend:

[magic rivet]

I got this dpuh looking thing

[peak ether]

Shit

Double Access is bad

Hyp barrel too

And Torgue pistols are already on the weaker end

[candid pond]

Unless its the Harold its not very good

And the Harold isn't that great 90% of the time

[peak ether]

Dominator is good

And saying the Harold sucks is wild

[candid pond]

Its just overrated

People glaze it to much so ive grown to kinda hate it

[peak ether]

To a certain extent yeah

It's just a good gun

With drawbacks

[hollow prism]

Yoooooooo

It's not even an item of the day

[oblique kelp]

Marcus tells you - use jakobs rifle, it's better then nukem 😆

[peak ether]

Exponential scaling

Everything increases by the same % every lvl

So numbers end up looking crazy high at max lvl

It's just an illusion

Everything is equally effective on lvl as it was in the early lvls

[wide fog]

zamn

[candid pond]

What are the odds on that

[eager laurel]

3/73 for any maliwan cap, 1/61 for maliwan body, 1/61 for maliwan battery

[hardy rock]

Any tips for the eclipse fight?

[midnight mesa]

This is sure a rare thing happen

Get ready when UVHM makes the numbers go mich higher

[fervent light]

Hey anyone wanna play a fresh bl2 playthrough

[brazen flame]

I feel like it's not out of the realm of possibility to just fly sancutary to bunker

or jack could just fly bnk-3r to sanc if he wanted to

[tawdry shell]

you could also just fly a buzzard to bunker, or lilith could teleport you, there's a lot of idfferent options

you just aren't meant to think about it

[bright jacinth]

i jus pulled 94 sham

but i cant send picture to celebrate my victory

[burnt niche]

Wel wel wel iv been grinding the taunts for a whole day and still no bee shield

[eager laurel]

that’s surprising, almost every treeant has a 10% chance to drop the bee and over a whole day you can do a lot of runs

[candid pond]

To get a bee shield should take maybe 30-40 minutes if your super unlucky and struggling

Maybe try

Uhhh hunter sumthin I cant remember the exact name but he also drops the bee

[eager laurel]

it’s likely they just exaggerated how long they were farming for

[autumn ledge]

Can someone explain the point of Axton's "Do or Die" skill? So holding a launcher increases your gun damage? But how can you use a gun if you're holding the launcher? I don't get it.

[tawdry shell]

it just makes your launchers stronger

i think they labeled it weird so it’s only boosting launchers specifically, instead of other things that might count as rockets as well

[deft forge]

https://medal.tv/games/borderlands-2/clips/lYLpZgiAKM0zAjEVj?invite=cr-MSxoY3QsMjAwMzUwNDUy&v=7

HOLY SHIT

[peak ether]

Can't see the stock but yes that's Dahl grip

[timid prawn]

Sorry I got u

[peak ether]

Dahl stock

[timid prawn]

That everything??

[peak ether]

Yeah

[timid prawn]

Sweet!!

[peak ether]

That's suspiciously too good to be legit but idc if someone gave you it

[timid prawn]

Nobody gave it to me lmao

[peak ether]

It's a roll that can theoretically exist in normal gameplay

[timid prawn]

I don't have friends on bl2 except the one person I just gave a gun to

[random geyser]

casually a 1/8000, that's chill

[peak ether]

Yeah

People spend months looking for something like that

[timid prawn]

Is it really that rare??

[random geyser]

yeah

[peak ether]

Yes

[timid prawn]

Well you can have it I don't use it

[peak ether]

Blues aren't guaranteed to have an accessory

[timid prawn]

Gonna go right back into the vault

[peak ether]

Xbox

[random geyser]

the only time i farmed that gun, i took more than 20 hours

to get a perfect fire

[peak ether]

And elements have miserable odds to spawn

[timid prawn]

I'm pretty sure I have more then 1 of this gun 1 of each flavor so

I don't use it

If you want it lemme know after work I'll give it to you

[tawdry shell]

could stash it to use on a maya playthrough later or somethin

giving items away on pc is kinda useless when save editing exists lol

[timid prawn]

True but if he needs it I don't mind

[peak ether]

I'm on Xbox

[timid prawn]

Not really worried bout that

[timid prawn]

No cross play?

[tawdry shell]

corssplay is only bl3 and up

[peak ether]

And if I was on pc I'd just save edit a roll like that

[peak ether]

^

[timid prawn]

Daaannnnggg

[tawdry shell]

since that was around when crossplay itself was getting big

having crossplay on a game in 2012 would've been insane

[timid prawn]

Well I tried to help ya bro 😭

[fervent light]

U on pc?

[timid prawn]

Yea

[fervent light]

Wanna play bl2 with me

[timid prawn]

I'm at work rn or I would

[fervent light]

Oh okay

If u get off soon lemme know

[timid prawn]

Yep I get off work at 10:15ish pm Central time

@fervent light

[fervent light]

Pkay

[ebon oasis]

Me

[peak ether]

https://youtu.be/qsqZK4661Ys?si=z3PzQAhHHsNXRep6
@glacial moss in case you still need convincing

[fervent light]

I dm'd u

[magic rivet]

I think i got a good part roll off of King mong

[kind maple]

Just trying to play the game...

[drifting hound]

Absolute cinema.

And before you say a thing. Yes, I do have too much free time.

[karmic apex]

Why do I have 3 meat heads?? (One stayed back where he usually chills)

[long solar]

Changing settings doesn't mean you have to much free time

[fair igloo]

good enough ig

[shy jay]

Homeslice stop farming go kill flynt

[fair igloo]

not a bro, tyvm

also i enjoy farming if it's for BOOOOM!!!

[shy jay]

Tru

Also is that better? /gen

[fair igloo]

anything but male leaning words is good

[shy jay]

Coolio

[fair igloo]

i personally keep the cool cool in

has more impact

tho i also use cool cool coolio when i don't care

so y'know

[shy jay]

Gotcha

[fair igloo]

newest addition to my parking saga @peak ether

this one's pretty much impossible to replicate

my parking skills were rewarded

[peak ether]

Thems fighting words right there

Oh

[jade dirge]

@peak ether Sorry for the ping I just figured it would be easier to show you my collection and get a direct opinion

[peak ether]

That Hellfire is good

Thumpers are bad

Period

Masher and that Fire revolver is fine

Defiler too

Okay parts on the Firehawk

That Anarchy is shit

[jade dirge]

When you say thumpers are bad do you mean these ones or like, never use thumpers? I can keep an eye out for other manufacturers with those elements

Based on your judgements it seems I should keep trying for a good non-elemental SMG? I have no idea how hard the later waves of the 20 round Underdome challenges are.

[tawdry shell]

thumpers are always bad

[jade dirge]

I see...

Oh and here's my mods

[peak ether]

Agony and torment on the merc

Max stat rolls

No skills

The Firefly and Plaguebearer are good rolls at least

Same with that shield

[jade dirge]

Are number x4 modifiers bad or something? Compared to like, a flat damage number

I'm not really seeing and non-ele smgs with better damage

Because this is orange but like...

[peak ether]

If an SMG has enough tech to be x4 it either has a twisted barrel or it rolled tech boosting parts which don't have as high dmg

[jade dirge]

tech boosting parts... I see, so like it used up skill slots to be a x4 modifier

But 204 x 4 is still 816 damage no? Which dwarfs these other SMGs

[peak ether]

Hellfire just always has x4 tho

Regardless of roll

It's why it's so strong

Also doesn't have a dmg penalty for being fire

[jade dirge]

Do you mean like the x4 fire counts as the same as a x4 flashing on the number would be

[peak ether]

Oh you mean pellet count

[jade dirge]

Yeah like this

[peak ether]

That just means it's an Anarchy

[jade dirge]

204 x 4 seems very strong but you said it's a bad gun; so I'm just confused what makes other non-ele smgs better

[peak ether]

Oh the parts were just shit

A Body 5 Anarchy is like fine

People consider them the best SMGs in the game behind the Hellfire but I disagree with that

[jade dirge]

Well the raw damage on it eclipses other smgs I've seen

[peak ether]

I don't think the accuracy loss is worth it

Stingers are ultimately more flexible

[jade dirge]

I don't think I have a stinger but I did find this this run

[peak ether]

Every non unique weapon title has a certain condition to be given to a weapon btw

Anarchy is the low accuracy title and it gives 2 extra projetiles per shot

But the only way to meet the requirement is a Double accessory + barrel 1 or 2

[peak ether]

Pretty good

[jade dirge]

I see, I see...

[peak ether]

So basically the +1 from double accessory then +2 from the Anarchy title

Becomes x4

[jade dirge]

So this thing shoots 6 bullets every shot

[peak ether]

Yes

In other news this goes hard

[jade dirge]

When a weapon has +10% damage does that number get reflected in the visible damage stat or is it an extra modifier

[peak ether]

It's already reflected

[unkempt fiber]

How good of a bee is this?

[random geyser]

awful

bandit and pangolin

[unkempt fiber]

I got it from the snow man chest while farming for a fire topneaa

[little marlin]

tried the enemy randomizer mod

i think im stopping for today

[zinc gyro]

Omfg

[fair igloo]

guess i get to try the oh so great plasma caster

not bad, still prefer the old reliable blaster tho

way more fun to use

but i see the charm

tho that charm might be from me just getting a point into metal storm

[eager laurel]

it's a bandit pc, the worst one

[timber hedge]

I got the next best thing to the Slagga

[mighty tiger]

ik there are probably a million people that ask this question, but how rare is this??

not only did i get 2 oranges from a red chest, but a legendary loot midget also spawned (evident from the loot on the floor)

[peak ether]

You got the ass one specifically

Bandit Plasma Casters kinda just suck

In comparison to all the others

[magic rivet]

Wat

[peak ether]

Hyperion reverse recoil is coded weird

It considers the starting accuracy max

[fair igloo]

that's not a chulainn

[peak ether]

And when it reaches "max accuracy" that's what's considered min accuracy

[fair igloo]

fym the worst one, bandit is the most fun, i just prefer the blaster bc it's most like my favorite eridian from 1

[peak ether]

Bandit plasma casters don't have grenade dmg

So it straight up doesn't have what makes the others good

[tawdry shell]

reminds me of a mod idea i had

[lofty flame]

Dont they also shoot oscillating projectiles

[tawdry shell]

e-tech's mimick how bl1 eridians were (assuming that mod doesn't exist already)

[peak ether]

Yes

[fair igloo]

that may be true, but i like the quirkiness of the projectiles

it's fun

[peak ether]

They're fucky weird and are flat out worse

[fair igloo]

which makes it fun to use them

look, it's impossible to argue with someone who enjoys pain

about these things

[lofty flame]

Thats pretty bleh

[fair igloo]

honestly i'd say the tediore ones are the worst for my purposes, as they don't do anything fun, they're just high damage grenades

i already have a fire storm if i wanna throw a grenade

[lofty flame]

I definitely wasn't expecting Firestorm as a go-to grenade but to each their own

[fair igloo]

why waste the ammo i could be using on an actual fun gun

[fair igloo]

i like throwing it point-blank and running away

makes it even more exhilarating considering i use a bee shield

[tawdry shell]

my go to is still the chain lightning tbh

[fair igloo]

if i'm not fast enough i die 🥵 😩

[tawdry shell]

it reminds me of

[fair igloo]

this is also why i like the nukem so much

[tawdry shell]

nukem is fun

[fair igloo]

massive chance for self-damage if i don't aim properly

[tawdry shell]

most common launchers i tend to use is either the tunguska or the mongol lol

[lofty flame]

I usually go Fastball, Crossfire, Electric Chair or Slag Transfusion

[fair igloo]

tungussy is definitely fun

[tawdry shell]

i play on ucp so the self damage chance isn't there luckily

[tawdry shell]

i never enjoyed the fastball for some reason

if im throwing a grenade i wanna hit a bunch of targets yknow

[fair igloo]

fast ball is fun but i do prefer the instant hit mechanic of firestorm

[lofty flame]

Sometimes i like just pointing at someone and saying "die"

[fair igloo]

and also the following AOE

[fair igloo]

that's why i love the firestorm so much, except firestorm is way more fun in close-quarters

it's not fun if my own grenade kills me 100% of the time in close-quarters

[tawdry shell]

hold on i can't find the gif

[fair igloo]

so fastball is a no

[lofty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-speech-bubble-gif-25026388

[tawdry shell]

I FOUND IT

[tawdry shell]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gif-19994597

[fair igloo]

i love how small the firestorm is

this teeny tiny grenade has the potential to kill me, my enemy and my enemy's grandmother in 1 go

[tawdry shell]

bro might be orange knight

[fair igloo]

wot

why delete it, that is what she said, for i am a woman

you were not wrong

[tawdry shell]

firestorm grenade

orange knight has fire magic

[fair igloo]

oh

castle crashers?

[tawdry shell]

yes lol

blue knight is the best of the main knights tho

^ me irl

[fair igloo]

gotta be big somewhere ig

[tawdry shell]

good lord i have 584 screenshots on bl2

that can't be right

my first screenshot is this apparently???

why did i ever put my weapons in the center

[fair igloo]

good taste ;3

[tawdry shell]

the barrels never line up properly is the issue

[tender aspen]

Real question is what the hell is Lilith doing there and not in her little hideout?

[fair igloo]

cardio

[tawdry shell]

true

[tender aspen]

Guess she took a break cus she doesn’t move them legs very much to pose for this photo

[fair igloo]

she doesn't get many chances to take pictures, most men she meets are puddles on the ground in 5 seconds

[tender aspen]

That is true

[mighty tiger]

holy crap, and its even lower after the loot midget

im stupid lucky

[unkempt fiber]

Is this one a good one or should I keep farming

[random geyser]

right grip but no accessory

so it's decent

[unkempt fiber]

I'll take it cause I've been at this farm for awhile now.

The worst part is I found a perfect roll but it was slag

[deft forge]

still no vermi

[random geyser]

they have to get aggro for them to evolve

[deft forge]

yea i know

ive been doing that and dying

[random geyser]

the best place is caustic caverns, since they are perma aggro on the crystalist

[deft forge]

noted

[little marlin]

fucked up that i got to bloodwing and she was like 500 times easier than this one room

[deft forge]

https://medal.tv/games/borderlands-2/clips/m0bcDruQSdjPPdTEv?invite=cr-MSwyZEksMjAwMzUwNDUy&v=10

nuclear bomb goes off and obliterates bar

[deft forge]

slag kitten is the best kitten

[unkempt fiber]

I just wanted a fire one for hellborne kreig

But I do have a good slagging weapon now I got from farming bone of the ancients

[magic rivet]

Is there anything important about that vault portal

It's top right of crosshair

[unkempt fiber]

Is this a decent flame of the firehawk?

[peak ether]

Hellborn doesn't need fire weapons to work

Once you get Delusional Damage any element works

Hellborn only has 1 skill buffing fire dmg and it only buffs DoTs

[deft forge]

Pretty good nova damage i think which is the only thing that matters i think

Recharge delay is good but i think it could be longer?? not sure

[peak ether]

Hellborn fire DoTs will be constantly resetting the recharge delay

[deft forge]

yea that too lol

i have a krieg javelin/fire build ive been using

im using flame of the firehawk because im too lazy to get that one seraph

the fire dots are good at keeping my shield down letting me have a crazy firerate on my harold

im gonna get the grog nozzle tonight to replace my slagga i think

[peak ether]

On Krieg I find it really difficult to justify another shield over the Rough Rider

Even the Flame

[deft forge]

yea rough rider is super good

i used to use love thumper with my melee/explosive build but my friend kept getting hit by it and dying

we died on digistruct because i was meleeing an enemy while i was downed and he was trying to revive me lol

i really wish it iddnt do friendly fire

[peak ether]

Your biggest mistake there was running roid on Krieg

He has enough melee dmg

[deft forge]

you can never have enough

[peak ether]

But you do

[deft forge]

i had to swap off the build because op5+ is really hard with melee krieg unfortunately

[peak ether]

Roid is mostly just a Zer0 thing

[deft forge]

i switched to the rough rider after using love thumper to op5

[peak ether]

Melee Krieg still works into op10 btw

[deft forge]

i also got a perfect stockpile relic for my new build it has pistol ammo smg ammo rocket ammo

[deft forge]

its very hard since you die super quick

[peak ether]

RR

All roads lead back to RR on Krieg unfortunately

Shield choice in Bl1 and 2 is very shallow

[deft forge]

bl2 has some good shields

roid damage is very good on krieg still

rough rider is usually better but if you just wanna do a lot of damage roid is fun

[candid pond]

Shields have always been meh to me

Other than very specific builds I just kinda throw on a decent antagonist or something like that

[deft forge]

yea my friend usually just uses the bee

but he switched to axton grenadier to go along with my build so now he needs a big boom blaster lol

im thinking about getting one too so i can keep getting lots of rockets

hard to do javelins when youre running out of ammo every 10 seconds

[peak ether]

I'm not saying there's no good shields

There's just not a lot that change how you play or build a character

You kinda just always pick the shield that most fits the character you're playing

Unless there is no shield that massively synergies with your character so you just pick the defensive shield you like the most

[deft forge]

yea true

[peak ether]

Hell most characters don't get majorly changed between different skill specs

Gaige being the worst offender

[jade dirge]

@peak ether will these guns I showed you get me through Underdome 20? I have free time again today so I didn't know if I should utilize it on farming or challenges

The enemies hit pretty hard now...

[candid pond]

Feel like 99% of my shield choices are rough rider or antagonist

Love thumper for zero

[wide fog]

it’s not

it makes little to no difference at all

good on zer0

that’s about it

if you’re a chad it’s good on gaige too

[deft forge]

love thumper mechromancer

[wide fog]

melee gaige is goated

[peak ether]

[candid pond]

Melee axton what r yall yappin abt

[jade dirge]

Does fire rate or raw damage matter more...

[peak ether]

Fire rate

Also body 5 thumper

Me when Thumper mag ruins a perfectly fine SMG

The Hellfire on the right would've been an amazing roll if it had literally any other mag

[jade dirge]

I did pick up two similar ones but I'm unable to tell what their stats are...

[peak ether]

Right

For SMGs HX is the body you want

[jade dirge]

How do I know what HX is

[peak ether]

The body the one on the right has

That one would've been almost perfect but the mag fucked it over

[jade dirge]

Ahh I see what you mean. How the right one is more blue and these other two are more gray

Assuming that's what you meant

I just picked up another Hellfire and it looks the same as these two above so

But it does have a 55 clip count...

[peak ether]

Clip

Ahhhhh

[jade dirge]

Did I say something wrong

[peak ether]

Magazine and clip aren't interchangeable words

A magazine is a spring loaded part of a gun where the bullets are stored before firing

A clip is a thin piece of metal that holds multiple rounds together that makes loading easier

[jade dirge]

Ahh, I guess I made myself sound pretty dumb then. I'm not really experienced with actual guns

[peak ether]

Too many gamers and games themselves get it wrong

Normally I don't care about a game being realistic with its guns but I do prefer if they at least get the terms correct

[jade dirge]

Is this the correct body?

[atomic edge]

I can't wait for this new BL2 DLC to drop, thanks Steam.

[peak ether]

No

It'll say HX in the parts code

[jade dirge]

Oh I see now. Excellent, that makes it much easier to keep track

Bad rng then because the next 5 I've gotten are all TD... What odds huh

Well TD and one Tek

[peak ether]

TD is body 1

[jade dirge]

Oh nice this one is HX with a great fire rate

@peak ether

[peak ether]

That's a very good one

[jade dirge]

Huzzah

Now I just need to try and get a good corrossive and lightning one for crimson lancers and guardians

But I don't think those elements have legendaries?

[peak ether]

They don't

At least for SMGs

Corrosive has the Defiler and Plague which are way better than Corrosive SMGs

Shock has the Orion and that's it

[jade dirge]

Defiler is a Revolver right

[unkempt fiber]

it so good but it's inflammable

[peak ether]

Yes

Plague is a shotgun with a bugged name

It shows up as Crux in game

[peak ether]

Equalizer isn't locked to shock and uses the generic shock accessory that has the dmg nerf

Defiler is good but could be better

[jade dirge]

What should I be looking out for to make these good elemental mainstays?

[peak ether]

AX is body 5 on revolvers

[peak ether]

Mag 5 (the 2 shot cylinder)

And either barrel 4 or 5

[peak ether]

Yeah that one

[jade dirge]

Is there an AX Legendary Shock or do I scan for Purples

[peak ether]

Anaconda

Equalizer uses a unique body so it's always EQ

[jade dirge]

Anaconda huh... Not sure if I've seen one. I'll Google to see what it looks like

[peak ether]

It's the legendary Dahl revolver

It isn't locked to shock tho

[jade dirge]

The wiki does say it can be any element, so I'll be farming awhile longer it seems... I'm surprised Defiler is preferred over a Corro SMG

[peak ether]

Ele smgs that aren't the Hellfire are bad ele guns

[jade dirge]

!

[peak ether]

They burn their tech pools fast and have comparetively weak explosions compared to snipers/revolvers

[peak ether]

Also bit of advice

Don't use the wiki

It's dogshit

If you wanna look up a gun use Loot Lemon

[jade dirge]

Oh okay

[peak ether]

Okay nvm if it rolls the right parts its fine

[fair igloo]

i keep getting defilers ;w; please take some of mine

[peak ether]

Defiler is a top tier weapon

Also Maliwan legedaries are all pretty common except the Rhino

[fair igloo]

it is until you have 3 in your inventory and 2 of them are clearly worse than 1

[peak ether]

Then don't carry 3

[fair igloo]

but trophies

[peak ether]

They're common

They aren't trophy items

Hell I'll ditch a pearl if it has shit parts

[fair igloo]

i grow attached

[deft forge]

i feel terrible dropping pearls and leaving them

what if i need that level 79 Banbury Storm later on...

for my krieg build...

[jade dirge]

Both are HX but one is "Crimson" and one is "Red"

and Red sems better?

[deft forge]

18.8 fire rate what the hell

thats a minigun

[peak ether]

I'm talking bl2

[peak ether]

Mat 2 on Hyperion has fire rate

[deft forge]

yea i think it still applies though

[peak ether]

It doesn't really

[deft forge]

i have a billion trillion pearls in 2

[peak ether]

Bl1 pearls honestly don't feel that special outside the rarity

And in bl1 bad parts actually butchers a weapon

So I will get rid of a pearl if I don't like the roll

[deft forge]

my inventory is full of pearls in 2 and half of them are wanderlusts and stalkers and bearcats

[deft forge]

arent pearls in 1 pretty difficult to get

[peak ether]

Ehhh

Not hard

Just time consuming

[deft forge]

time consuming and hard are sorta the same thing

[jade dirge]

I've been farming a few days now on both Knoxx and Crawmerax and haven't seen a pearl

Not that I want one or anything, just noting that I haven't

[peak ether]

They aren't

Hard implies the task has some lvl of challenge or difficulty

[jade dirge]

I'm just trying to get a good shock revolver so I don't explode in Underdome to Guardians

[deft forge]

being patient can be hard lol

[jade dirge]

Right now I just have this one

[peak ether]

Time consuming just means you have to sink a lot of time into it

[deft forge]

i really need to finish bl1 i was having lots of fun but i just stopped playing

[peak ether]

And neither armory or Craw are that hard

So many people say "Bl2 legedaries were hard to get compared to bl3" but they aren't even hard to get in 2 either

[deft forge]

yea i saw people saying they never got a single legendary in a whole bl2 playthrough and i have a hard time believing that

[peak ether]

I can

They just didn't go out of their way to farm one

[deft forge]

i mean yea but theres a lot of side quests that have you kill unique enemies that have a chnace for a legendary

i definitely got a few legendaries on my first playthrough

[peak ether]

I don't think I got my first till like

Tvhm

It was a Hammerbuster

Rip Hammerbuster

[deft forge]

i think i got a bonus package from boom and bewm

[peak ether]

Found shot dead by the Thumpson

[jade dirge]

It's odd how I get 10,000 equalizers but I haven't really seen any anacondas

Legendary variants, I mean

[peak ether]

Equalizer is the most common legendary

Anaconda is on the rarer end

[jade dirge]

I'm just killin' Craw over and over but maybe I should do Knoxx for it? Shock Anaconda is the last puzzle piece I need for the ele trio combo, at least since you said I had a good Hellfire and Defiler

[peak ether]

Also why are you only using SMGs and Pistols

[jade dirge]

Idk it just felt like the way I wanted to play Lilith

[peak ether]

Just take a Shock Maliwan shotgun or revolver

[peak ether]

Why

[jade dirge]

Well she likes smgs as her primary weapon and then she had a pistol as her starting secondary so I was like, oh okay sure-- then I got my hands on a revolver and I was like, oh that's some good damage and aiming potential.

and now I've just stuck with it

[peak ether]

She has no SMG skills

Only a single class mod

She's amazing with both Snipers and Shotguns too

[jade dirge]

I believe you; though at this point I'm so used to these two weapons I just wanna cross the finish line with 'em and try the other weapons on my next character

so I'm tryin' to get the shock revolver for Underdome 20

[peak ether]

Like I said

Just find a purple Shock Maliwan

Way less rare than an Anaconda

Don't sleep on purples

Most Legendaries aren't actually that big of an increase over purples

[jade dirge]

Yeah my best revolver is actually a blue (this is 383 x7)

[peak ether]

Masher Accessory does that

You don't even really need shock dmg to deal with Guardians

I usually just use a no element shotgun or sniper to deal with them

Underdome 20 rounders go on for 3+ hours

And the game will be throwing almost every major enemy faction at you with modifiers randomizing what guns are best

So you need to bring a flexible lineup that'll cover a lot of situations

[jade dirge]

Can you get Pearls in the Hyperion Gift Shop by the way

Or is it just Craw farming ideally

[peak ether]

No

You can only get them in lance chests, specific badasses in the Knoxx dlc, and Craw

[plucky inlet]

Is this a good grenade

[peak ether]

Normally yeah

Kinda redundant on Maya

And white rarity isn't helping

[jade dirge]

Guess you should do Craw > Armory

[peak ether]

Min and max stat grades

Like dmg DoT radius

[plucky inlet]

25

[plucky inlet]

Gotcha

[formal pulsar]

damn

2 more waves

lets go

[candid pond]

Yes craw is the best/fastest for pearls

Still stupid rare

[magic rivet]

My current uvhm build, need better com. I can kill adequately but how about surviving? I wanna kms just because of how fast i die

I have a homing transfusion

[candid pond]

U got the best overall com imo

Put 1 poin in both the top right skills should help u survive

Transfer also helps alot

Also pick moneyshot or inconceivable they aren't great together

Id skip moneyshot completely

[plucky inlet]

Let's goooo

[zinc gyro]

Low roll but GG

Also sant smth funny, when showing my caracter to a friend, i shoot a nukem at me to be like : i'm invincible most the time
Guess what, I died 4 consecutive time with only a 6%failure chance

[wide fog]

money shot and inconceivable isn’t bad actually

it allows for money shot chains

if you’re doing deputy yeah it’s bad

any other use case you take both

[zinc gyro]

Oh yea chaining moneyshoot

Once i got one that lastest for, idk, 7 seconds? I was using a butcher and it was deafening XD

[candid pond]

Imo moneyshot works best when you build around it

Throwing it wont hurt you but those points can be better spent

[fair igloo]

cheese is always a valid strat

this is the mafia way, go for the knees!

[tender aspen]

I nearly quit bl1 due to bonehead, I questioned how people got past since this guy is a damn bullet sponge

[fair igloo]

i cheese him every time

[tender aspen]

I never found a good cheesing spot besides just backing up and letting my shield regen then try again

[fair igloo]

get liquid sniper from tk and then start crouch-uncrouch-snipe-crouch-uncrouch-snipe-crouch over and over again

[fair igloo]

just jump to the left door platform and do the strategy above

you can also cheese krom and the kobb brothers similarly

keep in mind for the future

[tender aspen]

Eh maybe I’ll try bl1 again.. haven’t touched it in quite a while since I couldn’t do Craw

[fair igloo]

another easy way to cheese bonehead is getting a launcher and shooting it point blank

the cheesing is easy i mean, finding a launcher will be pretty hard that early but not impossible

i think my first time ever playing the game i killed bonehead with a fire smg i found in the fyrestone gun vendor

took me 2 hours

[peak ether]

Side quests

Genuinely how tf does Bonehead filter this many people

Tk has 2 side quests that'll get you on lvl

One of which gives a semi auto sniper

[jade dirge]

Huh, that's interesting. Does this mean orange weapons don't have their own ID or something

[peak ether]

They don't

Legendary weapon titles just add +50 to a gun's rarity score

Functionally they're not different from non uniques

[jade dirge]

So this Hellfire in my inventory is actually a Rare and not a Legendary? Or does being at a different Rarity Level give a weapon it's own ID

Like if you removed the loot glow from all greens and blues would oranges still appear

[peak ether]

It's a Hellfire because it has the Hellfire legendary accessory

[candid pond]

Just because its a hellfire doesn't mean its good

[peak ether]

If you took it off it would go back to being green-blue-purple

[candid pond]

However a hellfire rolled perfectly will be better than a perfect rolled blue

Same with pearls right?

[peak ether]

There is no such thing as a perfect rolled blue because that's not how Bl1 rarity works

If a non unique is a perfect roll it's always purple unless it's a sniper

[candid pond]

Oh wierd

What abt unique tho like tks wave

Or can that roll to be purple

[fair igloo]

i'm pretty sure purple wave is incredibly rare

[peak ether]

It can be

Bl1 assigns a score to every part

[jade dirge]

Well my question wasn't really if one is better than the other; it's the ID parameters. If you removed all Uncommons from the game, can Legendary (yellow)s still appear in loot or are they somehow the same ID that can roll different hex colors

[peak ether]

"better" parts are worth more points

And the items rarity is given based on the final total

Legendary weapon titles are worth 50 points

[peak ether]

There is no id for each rarity

It's just one giant pool

[jade dirge]

But when they roll a rarity it has to have some flag that pops a color

[fair igloo]

isn't that flag just the score

or am i stupid

[peak ether]

No you're right

It is the score

Bl1 Legendaries are closer to non uniques than uniques

[tender aspen]

Did side quests, still sucked and couldn’t kill him back then, I was that bad

Maybe I bought the wrong bl that made bonehead this unkillable monster compared to everyone else

[peak ether]

Okay I actually have time to fully explain how Bl1 creates its guns and I feel you're at the point it's useful information

When Bl1 creates an item it first rolls a weapon parameter that determines what type of weapon it is

Then it rolls what manu

Then it rolls all of the items parts

When it's done randomizing the parts it assigns a prefix and title based on the gun's stats

After that it takes all of the rarity scores of all the parts and gives it a color based on said parts

"Legendary" weapons are simply just a rare part in the generic weapon part loot table exclusive to a specific manufacturer

Every manufacturer has exactly 1 legendary part for every weapon type they make

There is no "removing the uncommon rarity ID" because there is no such thing

[peak ether]

Every single non unique weapon drop you see had a chance to be that manu's legendary

All those Maliwan SMGs you see

Could've been a Hellfire

Every Jakobs revolver could've been an Unforgiven etc.

[peak ether]

What the wiki simply saying is a yellow legendary is equivalent to a white/green parts wise

Light Orange equivalent to blue

And Dark Orange to purple

As in if you took off the legendary part or removed the +50 rarity score legendaries have they would go back to that color

There's actually an example of this in game already

The legendary Dahl sniper in the og version of the game is bugged and doesn't get that +50

So it shows up as green/blue/purple

[jade dirge]

Thank you for this big writeup, it's very useful for referencing

[fiery ingot]

Closest I got to wanting the 34/+6 MS

[candid pond]

Solid roll

That extra 2% truly doesn't matter

[plucky inlet]

Finally my first hornet

[jade dirge]

This must be a rare red text. Haven't seen this one... Doesn't seem good though

[candid pond]

"Bad troll"

Def sounds like a great weapon that works as intended

[tawdry shell]

it's special effect is really underwhelming

+1 health per second

if it was 1% it might be worth keeping

[peak ether]

The effect is worthless

You heal 2 health per second when held

That's it

If it rolls good parts its still a good weapon

But that's literally every Bl1 legendary

In most cases parts like body and barrel end up being more important than legendary parts

[jade dirge]

It is a bit tedious to check all the purples and blues from Craw given how it drops them... Perhaps I'll swap back to Armory for a bit, even though it's slower.

I'll get that Aries or Anaconda eventually. Time will tell

[peak ether]

Funnily enough this isn't even that bad of a roll

Body 4 has the highest dmg

[candid pond]

LMAOO

[peak ether]

It's 2

[candid pond]

I didnt register what this meant for a second

[peak ether]

Not 1

[candid pond]

Either way

Thats comical

Whats max health at level 72?

[peak ether]

Not % even

Just 2

[candid pond]

Or whatever max level is

[peak ether]

1120 w/o max health boosts at lvl 69

Yeah Troll effect is just

Worthless

[candid pond]

Thats actually way lower than I expected

Why is scaling so much different compared to bl2??

[peak ether]

But as an actual gun it's fine

Logarithmic

[candid pond]

Swear at level 20 I got 2k hp in bl2

[peak ether]

Vs bl2 which uses exponential

[candid pond]

Ohhhhhhh

Wait so each level in bl1 goes up the same amount??

[peak ether]

No that's linear

Bl1 lvls have this weird curve where

The higher in lvl you go

The smaller dmg and health increases get comparative to lower lvls

[candid pond]

Follow up question does that mean things scale alot better? Like a gun in bl2 only last a few levels in bl1 does a good gun last alot longer?

[peak ether]

Yes

[candid pond]

I like that alot more

They needa bring that back

[peak ether]

In Bl2 a gun losses half its effectiveness by around 5 lvls

In Bl1 a good gun can potentially last an entire playthrough

[peak ether]

I'm mixed on it

You should be forced to switch up your gear mid run

Bl2's problem is it requires it too much

[jade dirge]

Huh...

[peak ether]

And Bl1's is too little

[peak ether]

Carnage barrel

That's not its legendary part but a generic part any combat shotgun can have

The legendary part is the 20 round cylinder

[jade dirge]

Does that make a shotgun better or worse to have inherit launcher ammo

[peak ether]

Usually worse

Unless you have ways to boost them

I like Carnages

They're fun

[tawdry shell]

huh lootlemon is wrong then

[peak ether]

Oh?

[tawdry shell]

like an even worse version of the troll pet in castle crashers lol

[candid pond]

Thats my issue

I like being forced to get more gear

But bl2 makes me feel like I NEED new weapons every 3-4 levels

Maybe like 6-7 if its early game enough and its a good enough gun

[serene oriole]

I got my guns in my first playthrough of the campaign, after that I have exchanged one weapon for a better one in 30 levels, I have a lvl 23 pestilent defiler and I am lvl 56 currently, and got my weapon mod at lvl 19. Went through 2nd playthrough, DLCs, and currently doing Tartarus DLC and have had maybe 1 upgrade, as I had a worse defiler up to when I did knoxx dlc in my 1st playthrough. Good to not HAVE to upgrade but would also be fun to actually find something

[peak ether]

That is the cut off point where you should think about replacing gear yeah

[autumn ledge]

Huh. A legendary from a vending machine.

Not sure how I feel about this one. Damned near killed myself with it once or twice so far. LOL

[tender aspen]

Should of left that thing in the vending machine where you found it

[autumn ledge]

LOL. Probably. It's more useful outdoors at distance. Indoors, it's more likely to bounce right back into your lap.

I have the same issue with the Bunny launchers. Somehow got two of them.

[unkempt fiber]

Bro what does any of this mean?

[zinc gyro]

it's how many time you need to tip moxxy

don't look into that, just spam the tip button

also tip, if you want a late game good touch, do not pick the weapon from her hands, leave sanctuary and come back, she will drop the weapon and since she didn't gave it to you, you can get a second one later

[unkempt fiber]

I just wanted a bad touch to have something for the loaders and Saturn but I'll probably just get a boneshredder in corrosive

[autumn ledge]

What about this one? Seemed to do a pretty good job on the Zafords at the wake. LOL

The irony being it popped up in THEIR vending machine.

[fair igloo]

could be better but it'll do its purpose for now

could certainly be so much worse

one shots on-level bandits and that's enough

[jade dirge]

@cold rain

[peak ether]

Rip Anaconda Masher

[jade dirge]

I mean that's why I'm trying to tree it back in

But I have no idea what I'm looking at

[peak ether]

That one has the Anaconda barrel Body 5 Mag 5 no stock no sight Dahl grip Dahl mat 1

Swift prefix and Anaconda title

[peak ether]

Willow Tree kinda requires knowing bl1 parts more indepth

[jade dirge]

For sure haha

[peak ether]

It's not beginner friendly at all

Change gd manufacturer to Dahl

Body 3 Equalizer to Body 5

Grip to 2 iirc

Mag can stay the same

Barrel to barrel_4_Anaconda

Sight can stay the same

Accessory to accessory 2 masher iirc

Manufacturer material to Dahl 1

Prefix to Swift

And finally title to Anaconda

[peak ether]

You can also set stock to none

Increases recoil but reduces reload time

[peak ether]

Body part is invalid

[jade dirge]

Which line is the body part

Am I blind

[peak ether]

You put a title part

[peak ether]

Below weapon type

[jade dirge]

Ohh

What about the quality

[peak ether]

Revolver pistol body body 5 is what you want

[peak ether]

Leave it alone

I don't even know what it does

[jade dirge]

I assume white-green-blue-purple-pearl