bl1-2-tps-media

[pastel zealot]

dont all dahl grenade guns shoot 3 nades

[peak ether]

No

[pastel zealot]

in bl2 i mean

[peak ether]

That's specifically the Bearcat's effect

Also it's Torgue in 3

[pastel zealot]

of course it is

dude the bearcat sounds cool as a concept

but it just

idek man

its a sad weapon

[peak ether]

It just either needs more dmg to justify the ammo cost

Or reduced ammo cost

[pastel zealot]

you and i both know gearbox can't be arsed to deal with it

yet somehow they always added TK's wave and improved it on each version of the game

no seriously
why that gun specifically?

did it REALLY have an impact on gamers??

if it was just to not let the legacy of TK baha die then fine i get that
he's a fkn legend

[peak ether]

The Bl3 TK's is goated tho idk what you're talking about

[pastel zealot]

i didnt call the weapon bad im just suprised they only give that gun attention

quite the opposite, tk's is absolutely fucking cracked on 3

i would literally go back and farm for a new one every few levels in my first playthrough im ngl

fast farm, good gun, carried me through the game

[pastel zealot]

fuck all this tk talk makes me wanna farm for a tk bulldog hybrid im ngl
just like, as a novelty item

its just funny to me how ive actually NEVER used the gun because i always have smth better to use by the time i get and finish that quest

[peak ether]

Btw

In 4 it can spawn with the Atlas trackers

They gave TK's the ability to have fucking homing bullets

[pastel zealot]

aw HELL NAH WHAT

the only thing keeping it from reaching absolute broken tier was the bullets having insane spread

no wonder my friend called it one of the best then damn

my boy TK literally rising from his grave

[peak ether]

TK's Zombie is a fucking chill guy fr

[pastel zealot]

absolutely
loved him in the 2nd game

zombie tk lowkey sucked in bl1 though
motherfucker straight up DIDNT puke out any items for me

[peak ether]

Bl2 Tidal Wave isn't even bad either

It's just competing with arguably the best pistol in the game

[pastel zealot]

idk man....... you're alone on this one

[peak ether]

No I used it in tvhm

[pastel zealot]

also yes this

[peak ether]

And it still held up in early uvhm

[pastel zealot]

why

maybe im going too harsh on the poor fella

[peak ether]

Boredom

And I wanted to if it was as bad as reddit and YouTube made it out to be

And it wasn't

Then again I was playing Zer0 so

[tawny peak]

Help.

This popped up when I enabled Boosted TPS Characters.

does boosted TPS characters not work?

[tawdry shell]

should probably ask in the modding server

[serene escarp]

If you would like help with borderlands modding please head to the modding support server at https://discord.gg/bXeqV8Ef9R
THIS IS NOT A SERVER FOR BOOSTING OR GETTING ITEMS!

[finite notch]

I forgot because of some weird ass bug on my systerm, the Titan Industrial Facility splash screen just kinda persists
I don't know why either

Oh right it's also some weird ass effect where it snap shots a particular shot whenever I zoom in, like it looks like really bad OLED burn-in lol

[forest yew]

Is this a pc bug or a console bug

[finite notch]

PC

[finite notch]

bruh

[fair igloo]

what now

[eager laurel]

It’s in the other three horns map

[fair igloo]

why would it be in three horns

[eager laurel]

Isnt this the echo quest from there?

[fair igloo]

no

[tawdry shell]

the echo flew out of the map

[eager laurel]

oh just savequit then

I thought it was the quest with multiple of the same echo, one being out of bounds

[fair igloo]

there's one like that?

[eager laurel]

Yeah they left extra echos in strange places

[odd gorge]

what's tps mean?

[violet spear]

The Pre-Sequel.

[oblique kelp]

launcher is very good

[shrewd stump]

Jeez that pistol does more damage then my best rpg. 😭

How?

[oblique kelp]

maybe lower level

[shrewd stump]

I'm level 28.😭

[oblique kelp]

you see it' level 58

[shrewd stump]

Yeah.

How long you been playing bl 2?

[oblique kelp]

since 2022

[shrewd stump]

Jeez.

[oblique kelp]

it's another character. I usually play Maya

[shrewd stump]

What level is your main?

[oblique kelp]

Maya level 80

[shrewd stump]

What the.

Do you have any tips for me as a level 28 commando?

[oblique kelp]

do you have legendary soldier?

[shrewd stump]

Don't think so.

I'm currently doing the mission where angels fear to tread. Either that or just finished that mission.

[oblique kelp]

after that mission you can go to Marcus Mercenary Day DLC and farm Tinder snowflake for legendary soldier

[shrewd stump]

Ok. How long do you think that will take?

[oblique kelp]

I don't know maybe 5 runs or so maybe 30 min maybe hour

[shrewd stump]

Ok thx.

[shut path]

anyone know the gibbed code for the Button Up skin for axton?

[eager laurel]

Isnt there a button to unlock all the skins in gibbed?

or was it in bagpipe

or am i crazy and it didnt exist

[tawdry shell]

there’s a button for it in the bl3 edition i think

gibbed also has the option of just choosing what cosmetics you have on

which i think would unlock it

[craggy cradle]

im full of hope and whimsy (and gunpowder)

I'm double shotting and drop reloading in the menu to make this work because it's too fun to pass up

[violet spear]

Which character are you playing that you need to drop-reload to make the Flakker work well enough to use??

[craggy cradle]

It's more out of preference than necessity

Just this and grog nozzle for mobbing on my krieg should blow everything up I think

[pastel zealot]

FIRST LEGGY OF THE RUN HOLY SHIT AFTER 3 LOOT MIDGETS BACK TO BACK

I LOVE THE HAMMER YAYYY

[finite notch]

scaving

[oblique kelp]

it's like but cryo

[atomic edge]

Bruh why is the 4 pack not discounted?

[eager laurel]

scam pack

[barren cobalt]

Send the extra copies to your feiends haha what in the actual fuck

[quick saddle]

Who would be the best character for a Pistol only BL2 run?

[violet spear]

They're all incredibly viable. Best is hard to pick without further specifications.

[quick saddle]

I'll look into the character trees before I make a decision, then.

[candid pond]

Salvador is the easy answer

U get 2 pistols instead of 1 and he has a few skills that involve either pistols or using 2 of the same gun while gunzerking

[cobalt owl]

salvador with double penetrating unkempt harold(s)

[tender aspen]

DPUH is overrated

[candid pond]

Not on sal

He gives it decent boosts and completely negates the absurd ammo consumption

Any pistol can work on sal tho

Especially if you pair it with a lady fist

[tender aspen]

I don’t even use it on my Sal anymore

But to each their own

[peak ether]

It fucks over Overkill

Dpuh is worst on Sal

Besides Sal's best mobbing gun is Vladof E Tech sniper

[tawdry shell]

i remember using 2 of those on a hoarder build and lagging my game from the amount of lasers going everywhere

[wheat harbor]

(:

[tawdry shell]

jakobs reskin or is this part of the manufacture expansion?

[wheat harbor]

this is part of vzet stuff
im posting it because of the rarity
thats just the white jakobs skin

[tawdry shell]

ohhh gotcha

[ivory cipher]

Y’all think imma beat knuckle dragger?

I’m not sure I can. She might be too tough for me

[peak ether]

*she

[ivory cipher]

Oh I forgot knuckle dragger is a girl

[ivory cipher]

I’m unsure I can beat her. Harder than voracidious

[peak ether]

Most don't know period

[ivory cipher]

“Derp”

[oblique kelp]

duurp

[peak ether]

@atomic edge
Ez

[candid pond]

Neither do I

Its just a viable gun that most certainly can work

[atomic edge]

You should do the mission that jack gives you in the eridium blight where he pays you in eridium now

[tawdry shell]

did you load up a new save just to prove a point

[atomic edge]

[peak ether]

Nah I just had a save close to this point

[tawdry shell]

ah

[peak ether]

But seriously Deadlift is just a simple knowledge check

Because Borderlands players apparently can't handle a boss that doesn't die immediately without thinking

[atomic edge]

Being forced to use a specific weapon doesn't look that fun either tbh

[peak ether]

And Tps actually has good boss design unlike
Checks notes
Literally the entire rest of the series

Barring Bl1 craw and certain Bl3 fights

[peak ether]

You can still use something else

Just don't get hit by the shootable shock orbs

[violet spear]

Recently did a run where I had no weapons for Deadlift. You can take away a lot of his options by just slamming him repeatedly.

[atomic edge]

What if I want to get hit by the shock orbs?

LIFE IS PAIN

[wheat harbor]

mmm nice
material handled dynamically based on rarity

and a perfect roll

[tender aspen]

Smexy Jakobs

[barren cobalt]

They all point the same direction?

[wheat harbor]

hm?

oh pointing the same direction

yeah thats just because of how im spawnign all the items in

[barren cobalt]

See edit (thanks autocorrect)

[wheat harbor]

i dont bother giving them a random rotation

[barren cobalt]

So what do you mean by the material being handled dynamically based on rarity?

Oh i now see purple and blue pointing the same direction

[wheat harbor]

they dont spawn with a specific material
the skin they get is determined by the rarity they have

and now the rarity is determined by the parts on the item

[barren cobalt]

Oh OK so the same gun with different parts is assigned a different rarity

[wheat harbor]

ye

in vanilla theres a different item for each rarity, so it selects the item first, which then specifies the rarity and what material to use

now im doing it dynamically

[barren cobalt]

I think I get the distinction. Like switching up the order of operations

[brazen flame]

double loot goon kinda funny idk

[modest forum]

Uhhh opps?

[cedar crypt]

Are any of these not worth keeping?

[tawdry shell]

F12 is the screenshot key btw lol
also not sure, don’t know coms very well

at the very least you want all purple i think

[cedar crypt]

I know, it was just easier to do it on the phone lol

[peak ether]

Most of these are decent rolls

That Specter is the worst one which is a shame because it's a really good class mod that's a bitch to farm

Also no Phoenix on the Firefly

[fair igloo]

rate my fit for dpuh sal

[peak ether]

0/10 you aren't using the Brock Samson head

[barren cobalt]

Theres a brick samson head? Practically reason enough to play sal on its own

[peak ether]

Poker Night 2 head unfortunately:(

[barren cobalt]

So? There's a brock smason head it doesn't matter if there are others

[tawdry shell]

meaning you can't get it without save editing anymore

[barren cobalt]

Oh

Gotcha

My b i did not understand

[shy jay]

Ye both Poker Night at The Inventory games got delisted

[barren cobalt]

I thought pfox was saying there was another head that was so bad

[peak ether]

The biggest loss was the Portal head and skin for Zer0

Those are 2 of his best imo

[tawdry shell]

spiderant head >>>

[shy jay]

And also the TF2 items were pretty sweet from what I’ve seen

[peak ether]

And the Army of Darkness head for Axton

[barren cobalt]

Portal head! Dang I slept on bl2 customizations

[peak ether]

It's called Are Y0u Still There?

[pastel zealot]

@peak ether goated find?

[peak ether]

Yes

[pastel zealot]

the game blessed me after 10 back to back runs of nothing but dogshit

is that a god roll? probably right
if not, im afraid of the true potential a god roll vladof AR has then

[peak ether]

Stock could be better

But that's like

A tiny improvement

It has the important parts

[pastel zealot]

goddamn this ain't even it's prime huh

[peak ether]

Accessory could be better too

[tawdry shell]

speaking of weapons

i don't remember this even being part of the loot mod

weird to see

"high elemental effect chance" uh huh

[peak ether]

That's all Maliwans

[tawdry shell]

im saying the text is funny cause there's no element

[peak ether]

Also wow that is cursed

[tawdry shell]

i think the twisted part is messing it up somehow?

[peak ether]

No it just has accessory 2 lol

Vector from the looks of it

Maliwans are only supposed to have 3 and 5 (the elemental ones)

[vapid compass]

I did a thing

[fair igloo]

then gimme one

[tawdry shell]

gotta edit it in

[fair igloo]

exactly

giving a bad rating bc of a reason i cannot change without going into the code makes your rating invalid

[fair igloo]

the elemental effect is psychic damage taken from trying to comprehend an elementless maliwan

an eldritch horror of a gun

[peak ether]

I don't have it either :(

[vapid compass]

Says update available? How do I update it?

[serene escarp]

If you would like help with borderlands modding please head to the modding support server at https://discord.gg/bXeqV8Ef9R
THIS IS NOT A SERVER FOR BOOSTING OR GETTING ITEMS!

[fair igloo]

rolling thunder from story boss wilhelm, yet i got almost none while farming him on axton

[pastel zealot]

nvm i have to say bye to it ig

[harsh yarrow]

anything i should swap in my build for more efficient play?

aiming for shotgun krieg here, uvhm.

i use fastball for mobbing, although i know the omen or flakker would be better, but im not sure.

[violet spear]

All looks good to me. Just start working towards Elemental Elation and you'll be set for the build really.

[harsh yarrow]

elemental elation? like have weapons of multiple elements?

[violet spear]

Right tree, third skill on the left. Fire Rate and Mag Size while enemies are taking Status Effect Damage.

[harsh yarrow]

kay.

[tender aspen]

My recommendation is to hide behind any cover to avoid those drones since they will really fuck you up

Uranus is just like Saturn, he has a short but still a cooldown between to do damage

Like Mood said in the bl2 chat you should aim for those turrets and his crit spot being those little lights on him

[violet spear]

Just hide before the little bits in front of the drop to avoid the drones, then run up the stairs on either side if you can't survive down there.

[tender aspen]

My man didnt even get a chance to fight

[harsh yarrow]

i dont have mira though... howd you do it?

[wild plume]

tina's laugh killed it

[tender aspen]

Dude turned said "Oh shi-" boom he was dead

[violet spear]

That's just Chain Reaction doing its thing. Can't do that on Krieg. But yeah hide where Samantha hid. Bots frequently spawn and because you're Krieg you'll want those kill skills.

[wide fog]

only effects chance
if you hace good odds you never really need the com just helps you not need to be lucky

chain reaction just does that

goated skill

[harsh yarrow]

this is too hard

[wide fog]

nvm thought you were questioning why they didnt have a mirrored trickster classmod and did that

im dumb

[violet spear]

It's really not, as long as you don't give up in the first few tries before you learn how to live.

[tender aspen]

Regardless it's still funny to see bosses die so quickly

[harsh yarrow]

i feel a very specific anger... like being stuck at a party you dont want to be and cant leave anger

[violet spear]

Has... that happened to you?

[wide fog]

just stack bloodbath and then do it

shrimple

[violet spear]

But yeah stack Bloodlust with a Storm Front or similar grenade, kill an enemy with your Nukem for Blood Bath, and get to killing. Shouldn't take more than a handful of kill skills.

[harsh yarrow]

i cant do it... ;( aww man

[wild plume]

finally

[modest forum]

Wich of these should I use?

[oblique kelp]

BLUE SCREEN OF TPS

[zinc gyro]

Honestly, the ZX-1 is rare but not that good

[vapid compass]

Thanks badmaw

[violet spear]

Which legendary is that?

[tawdry shell]

deliverance

[violet spear]

Thought so but wanted confirmation.

[vapid compass]

I also got a madhouse from mad Mike

First try. It’s fire element.

[peak ether]

Neither ideally

[lilac fern]

Brick factually worth 1 cent less than the other OGs

[eager laurel]

they’re all one million whereas brick is ten million

[barren cobalt]

This guy reads.

[wild plume]

first time lvl 80

[eager laurel]

grats

[vapid compass]

What’s the highest damage for TVHM?

Also cool skin

[eager laurel]

If you’re on pc you can use part notifier to tell what damage part you got

In the Epsilon slot

[wild plume]

how do u do that

[eager laurel]

https://bl-sdk.github.io/willow2-mod-db/mods/pythonpartnotifier/

[halcyon thorn]

you could also mod the game

[eager laurel]

this is

[meager saffron]

I only just discovered python sdk modding yesterday and it might have changed my life

[eager laurel]

It’s so much nicer than text mods

[wild plume]

ty. also i wanna use BL2fix but i dont want it to make the game too easy and the rarities too inflated and it'll feel less fun

[eager laurel]

you should be able to adjust which changes you keep within blcmm

I haven’t used fix but it should have a couple options to toggle on and off

[wild plume]

what mods do u use

[eager laurel]

i dont play the game

but I did mainly just use minor QoL mods

im also not home so i cant show my mod folder

[vapid compass]

Downloaded the mod so I’ll see if it’s in my mods section.

Yep

[wild plume]

oki ty

[vapid compass]

Yep. It works. And it’s handy as well. Also my mods list because why not.

[eager laurel]

You can adjust what it shows in the settings

[wild plume]

how do you remove the thing from the mod manager where it says stuff like [Orange] on legendary weapons? it's rly annoying

[vapid compass]

I’m sort of new to modding so I wouldn’t know. Sorry.

[eager laurel]

like I changed it to leave off the weapon type and slot, since I can already tell what slot it’s in, and the weapon type should be obvious but if you do weapon randomiser it could be useful to keep on

[eager laurel]

Isn’t that the game’s colourblind setting?

[tawdry shell]

it is yeah

[wild plume]

💀

ty, no idea how that got turned on

[wild plume]

do i just put this in the mods folder

ok it works

how good is this lyuda

[random geyser]

perfect

damage prefix or fire rate may be a little bit better but crit prefix is also good

[eager laurel]

damage is better, crit is just 20%

[wild plume]

yay

[wild plume]

wdym

[eager laurel]

crit accessory just gives +20% scale crit, but you already have +125% scale crit so it’s kind of meh compared to getting the base damage increased

[wild plume]

oh :<

[astral temple]

💔

bl 2

[thorn current]

How am I supposed to post pictures bro

[wide fog]

you need the vauly hunter role
ironically enough sending this message seems to have got you it so you can send images now

[atomic edge]

RIP bozo

[thorn current]

Bet

[candid pond]

Rip vermi

Will forever be missed by no one

[rare valve]

reworked bee
bonus gun damage for a single shot (shield doesn't need to be full. numbers haven't been finalized; right now just +100%) after which it goes on a cooldown. dealing melee damage during the cooldown resets it immediately

i made normal amp shields function like the vanilla bee, so now the bee itself is the inverse

[cedar crypt]

nice congrats

how i was able to kill vermi was in that house in Tundra Express lol. You just aggro the varkids and after hours of farming, vermi spawns if you're lucky. didn't even have to leave the house to fight vermi. ez game

[atomic edge]

I have a mod that makes them more likely to evolve

Also did x4 enemy spawns

[cedar crypt]

Oh interesting

I never really used bl mods so idk

[shrewd rampart]

I love popping their helmets off.

[wild plume]

i keep getting this when trying to travel to the southern shelf idk

[wild plume]

omg

took 4 ever

[tender aspen]

Anshin

[wild plume]

o yea

i struggle to tell when its all rainbowey

[tender aspen]

Which is actually good that’s an all positive grade Easy Mode

[wild plume]

tyty

[tender aspen]

8 grade I’m pretty sure

[thick wing]

wth I cant upload images here

[tender aspen]

Cus you don’t have the VH role

[tender aspen]

?vh

[serene escarp]

The Vault Hunter role allows you to upload and embed pictures and other media in certain channels and stream to VC. It also allows Nitro users to use external emotes. The Vault Hunter role is an activity role and requires you to reach level 2 with the Lurkr bot. All you have to do to level up is to chat with other users in the server.

[thick wing]

ty

[tender aspen]

@blazing leaf

Here

[blazing leaf]

Thx

[astral temple]

Can anyone help me with this? i cant create an online session.

[eager laurel]

Easy mode has no use for special grade, the nova doesn’t work

both the rainbow shields are broken

[wide fog]

the woke broke my shield

[violet spear]

Oh that one. Yeah 0 has the solution right.

[jaunty totem]

K

Well I tried it an didn't work

I went to Highlands after thresher then sq and load back up and it didn't work I was respawn at the beginning of highland outwash

[wild plume]

https://youtu.be/NTDxACTIhss?si=3wdhisPYb2zbBSWF

i miss angel :(

[barren cobalt]

What if she was just trolling him, with plausible deniability?

[rare valve]

why are you like that

[shy jay]

🙂

[thick wing]

bro got his brain nearly turned into swiss cheese

[cunning sable]

Oh it works

If your holding the Law

[shy horizon]

Is this a good Tinderbox? Lv 5 weapon btw

[rare valve]

1. a single picture is most often enough for the parts to be recognizable, you only need to post another one if someone asks
2. at level 5 it doesn't matter
3. could be better

[shrewd rampart]

I would not worry about parts until you hit max level, and the tinderbox is not worth the effort for the most part.

[eager laurel]

4. include the weapon card in the photo

but at lvl5 parts on a tinderbox are not something you should worry about

[rare valve]

images that go hard

[tawdry shell]

how my dog be strain at tennis ball 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[shrewd rampart]

Most pointless fight ever; oldie. I need to do this again at OP10...when I have a good 45 minutes to waste.

[rare valve]

context for this image
i massively buffed jack and nerfed warrior
on repeat fights of the warrior, jack will respawn and make warrior invincible while he's alive, meaning that you have to fight both of them at once, and that you have to deal with jack before you can kill warrior (but when you do it'll die really quickly; the fight is practically over)

[lofty flame]

Just realized this makes Jack sound even more delusional in his monolog

[rare valve]

yes!

it's very funny

i really wanted it so warrior would fall over and die after just shooting it once

but i can't do that

so it just has much less HP, usually dead in just one or two of the regular attack cycles

[cunning sable]

Thats not hard thats gaige

[shy horizon]

ok thank you

[shy horizon]

makes sense

[wheat harbor]

you uh
good?

[rare valve]

health bar working correctly now as well

[oblique kelp]

I did only Rock God in TVHM somewhere. he's tank enoumous HP and instantly healthgate you

[shrewd rampart]

It took multiple attempts and that one was a bit over 33 minutes to complete. I drank a big black cup of coffee and was wearing a wrist brace (all that clicking adds up) with breaks here and there.

[wild plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261566030405304377/1454899885295009802/saturn2.mp4?ex=696490db&is=69633f5b&hm=734c044b47cd3355c722e08e593627ee91d29057e3ff531f161150ef4c8641b5&

[crude yew]

ahh i think i need levels and better gear

[tender aspen]

That is disgusting.. especially when I can do it to my pinky finger

[wild plume]

maya showing us what a real breakneck banshee looks like

[violet spear]

Brokeback Banshee

[eager laurel]

good

[vapid compass]

This is cool.

Found a mod on nexus. Aarons something mod.

[shy horizon]

Good IUH or no?

[tender aspen]

Usable, but not a perfect one

[shy horizon]

Yeah that makes sense. What parts should I look for and what parts does this one have?

[tender aspen]

Jakobs grip for the one you have, as for what you want, get a matching Torgue grip

[shy horizon]

Ok and then the sight don’t matter?

[tender aspen]

Nope sight doesn’t affect DPS

[shy horizon]

Anything else or is that it?

[tender aspen]

Nope

[shy horizon]

So I got an almost perfect L12 IUH? Yay

[shrewd rampart]

Having matching grips boosts a weapon's stats and will even change the reticle of a scope as well. Outside of a few cases, it is almost always preferred to have grips match the manufacturer.

[shy horizon]

Makes sense. Thank you.

[shrewd rampart]

If you want a guide to parts, here ya go

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1443647450

[eager laurel]

There’s only two parts that matter on a harold, the grip and accessory. You got a good accessory but a bad grip

[shy horizon]

Makes sense.

[eager laurel]

not the worst grip but jakobs isnt great for non-jakobs guns

anyway, it’s lvl12 parts dont matter

[rare valve]

anarchy if it was good

here is a question
the way the accuracy penalty is implemented means it can't be boiled down to a single number (as is the case in vanilla as well)

would you rather have an incorrect number listed or no number at all

[wide fog]

does it still kill you for premature reload

[rare valve]

it does not

[oblique kelp]

that's Duchess "anti-anarchy"

[vapid compass]

Oh ok.

[forest yew]

Boomacorn kinda sucks

The way it's crossair shows but fires more right than partially center just is terrible imo

[vapid compass]

Does the community patch buff it?

I also got the magma sniper

[forest yew]

No clue

[peak ether]

It doesn't but okay

[forest yew]

What would you say makes it good?

[peak ether]

AoE dmg

Every element

And just good dmg in general

I haven't heard a single soul say the gun was bad before

[forest yew]

Hmm, well whenever I use it, most of the time it doesn't do much damage for a shotgun, even with all elements, might just be me though

[candid pond]

I LOVE the boomacorn

U js gotta use it right

Shoot at there feet

[peak ether]

^

[candid pond]

Only pre sequel gun i can name of memory lol

[wild plume]

@paper compass

my jaw dropped

[paper compass]

ATHENA MENTIONED

[wild plume]

ive finished the pre sequel

story ends here ggs

[paper compass]

i liked tps a lot

[wild plume]

there is also ann australian lesbian

[paper compass]

janey springs!

she also really likes athena

[wild plume]

ik

so do i

[paper compass]

i also like athena

she is my third favourite VH

[wild plume]

uhm,,

[wild plume]

whos ur 2nd

[paper compass]

rafa

[shrewd rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coMBw1Il3Yk

https://i.imgur.com/8HqcLBp.mp4

Grit is good...shields are an accesory for Axton.

[fair igloo]

how is this supposed to be possible

i did it

god that's an annoying part

[shrewd rampart]

An old hiccup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99QzfWBoc2I

I thought I was on Op8, but it was Op7, it was still a slog.

[trim depot]

bro was just chillin with 2 bear cats

[peak ether]

Axton has better shield stuff than health

[shrewd rampart]

I don't care.

[tawdry shell]

lmao

[wild plume]

crazy grenade for first time playthrough

[grizzled oracle]

makes ur gear same lvl as char

[shrewd rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Gno0_7SFk

Jakobs nonsense. Not efficient, but I had fun.

[fair igloo]

thought this was a conference call at first glance

[peak ether]

Still fucking good

Thinkings are amazing non uniques

[fair igloo]

yea the matching grip and stock is nice

it's also tech 3

[peak ether]

Hyperions want Torgue stock but like

You're splitting hairs at that point

[fair igloo]

the handsome sorcerer that dropped that thinking dropped this

so

yea

[peak ether]

Blade is tho

[fair igloo]

well i'll use it on my melee zer0

[peak ether]

You almost always want VGrip

Some Jakobs prefer Crit

[fair igloo]

this is basically perfect for my melee zer0

[peak ether]

No?

[fair igloo]

yes

[peak ether]

Melee Zer0 you'll have your Rapier Bladed Grog/Rubi

[fair igloo]

thx for input

none taken

[peak ether]

Then your other 2 slots are probably a launcher and then whatever for range

[fair igloo]

it's perfect bc it's fun

[peak ether]

Normal blades are not ideal

[peak ether]

I can say that about Nuke

Doesn't make it a good skill

[fair igloo]

nukem is my favorite launcher bc it's fun

[tall surge]

its cuz the blade will split in multiple pellets duh

[fair igloo]

volcano is my favorite sniper bc it's fun

[peak ether]

I was talking the Axton skill

[fair igloo]

ik

but i'm giving examples

fun is perfection

i'll care about optimal parts if someone pays me to care

[peak ether]

Haderax might

[fair igloo]

but this is a hobby, not a job

[peak ether]

The Butcher and Flakker are very picky about that VGrip

Swordsploosion too

[fair igloo]

it's just a game, why care about the nitty gritty if you aren't doing it for world records and tournaments

or op10

i'm not looking to sweat, i'm looking to have fun, which is why fun is perfection

[peak ether]

I use unoptimal stuff all the time

But I won't call it perfect or ideal

Blades are for the vast majority of weapons pointless

[fair igloo]

i didn't say it was ideal, bc it's not, but perfect isn't as strict of a term, perfect is more personal

and my definition of perfect is what's most fun for me

[peak ether]

I don't like using perfect either tbh

Bl1 has the whole is Barrel 4 better or barrel 5 thing

So most Bl1 guns still don't have 1 singular perfect version

Then there's the giant can of worms that's Bl3

[fair igloo]

the only truly perfect thing in the universe is emptiness, because you can't add or take anything to alter it, empty space will always exist

so why care

have fun

that's my take on perfection

if it's impossible to achieve perfection, make your own, everyone has a different perfect and nobody can force you to alter it

[wheat harbor]

perfect... literally means perfect

100%

[peak ether]

In the case for Bl3 both are impossible

[wheat harbor]

bl2 has stock being questionable
which one is best depends if you ADS a lot or not

torgue beats dahl if you ADS

so it comes down to your gameplay

[fair igloo]

and the gun is 100% fun

[wheat harbor]

people dismiss sights but
sight still effects spread when ADSed so, its a measureable difference

[fair igloo]

it's perfect

[peak ether]

@hardy rock It'll have this barrel

[wheat harbor]

i should just automod the word perfect

[peak ether]

Do it

[violet spear]

Unbelievably true and real.

Include the word "best" too.

[wheat harbor]

tru

[fair igloo]

looks like a mouth, fun

[peak ether]

Conversation with someone in #the-pre-sequel

[hardy rock]

So

[peak ether]

that doesn't help

But I can see it's Maliwan barrel

I meant the actual gun model it self

[hardy rock]

How’d I get that

[peak ether]

But it's a white

Ya'know

[hardy rock]

So not good?

[peak ether]

the actual gun

Not the stats card

[hardy rock]

So try again?

[peak ether]

For every gun type a manufacturer makes they also make a grip, barrel, sight, and stock to go along with it

[peak ether]

With the exception of Vladof and Jakobs pistols any manufacturer can have any part

[peak ether]

Maliwan barrel Hyperion grip Hyperion stock

[hardy rock]

So not good?

[fair igloo]

that's pretty bright

[peak ether]

For every gun type and manu if the manufacturer of the gun's grip matches the manufacturer of the gun itself it gets a reload speed and mag size bonus

[hardy rock]

So it’s good?

Or is a white one bad

[peak ether]

And for most weapons they'll also get a matching barrel bonus

[peak ether]

Whites are always the worst versions of non uniques

[hardy rock]

So don’t buy it?

[peak ether]

No

Hyperion is also the worst sniper grip

[fair igloo]

unless it's the starter pistol

[eager laurel]

what lvl are you

[peak ether]

Starter pistol only has a unique prefix

Outside that it's the exact same as a normal white Dahl pistol

[hardy rock]

27

Not good?

[peak ether]

Railgun laser

Not a Splitter

[eager laurel]

technically the barrel is unique too

but it’s just a shitty barrel

[peak ether]

However Dahl Railguns still go hard

[hardy rock]

So try again?

[peak ether]

Yes

[eager laurel]

id say grab it just in case

[peak ether]

You're looking for this barrel

[eager laurel]

just look at the name, it’s easier for now

[hardy rock]

I just quit the game

[fair igloo]

fun

finally can quit using moloko

[peak ether]

Okay but

Moloko is funny

also a monster on Sal

I'm serious btw

You use one or two on Sal and somehow all of its problems go away

[hardy rock]

Found a splitter

[eager laurel]

that should be fine

[hardy rock]

It a good one?

[eager laurel]

No

[hardy rock]

So try again?

[eager laurel]

No, take it and try beat rk5

[peak ether]

They probably reset already the second you said that

[eager laurel]

surely not

[fair igloo]

correct, but volcano is my favorite sniper bc it's fun to use

[peak ether]

Snider side grade

Literally

These two guns play the exact same

The only difference is Volcano has worse base dmg and grenade AoE instead of gun AoE

So it's better on Axton and Krieg and no one else

Also fire lock is icky

[hardy rock]

Will it get job done?

[peak ether]

Yes

Rk5 is the reason I always carry a Clear Skys Oz Kit for the entire playthrough btw

Pretty much he's infamous for being a blind killer

[fair igloo]

it's fun bc the cloud reminds me of the incendiary clouds in 1 and that's very nostalgic to me

so it's my favorite

[hardy rock]

Just beat him

In like what seemed like a few seconds

[fair igloo]

the oxidizing splitter looks very oxidized itself

[oblique kelp]

launcher (:

[cunning sable]

Not a bad bunny

But the bunny is shit

[wheat harbor]

say that again

[fair igloo]

finally a peak axton fit again

[cunning sable]

Not a bad bunny

But the bunny is shit

[fair igloo]

why he got a pip boy

[formal pulsar]

only me is shooting from smgs only? 😁

[midnight mesa]

Axton has a lot of great color palettes and customization

[midnight mesa]

Interesting seeing launchers being more used and shotguns not being even touched

[midnight mesa]

She is now in the stars

[fair igloo]

noice

[fair igloo]

snowblind + self azured = captain cold

if only there were cryo lazers in 2

wonder if there's a mod for that

[native creek]

There’s a mod for everything atp

[fair igloo]

even mechanic outfit moxxi?

[native creek]

perhaps 🤷‍♀️ people really do make everything

[fair igloo]

i want a dart with all 6 elements

think there's a mod for that?

[native creek]

No clue

[fair igloo]

now i just need a topneaa and i'm all set for clearing tvhm no issue

or a norfleet

[tawny peak]

watch bottom screen

[formal pulsar]

tbh i hate shotguns and love smgs

[tawny peak]

aand I got a world drop?\

[brazen flame]

bro I still learn something new about bl2 everyday. This screw on a fire bandit smg lights up more bright red when you fire as if it's getting hotter.

The attention to detail in some stuff in this game is wild lol

also why is the tip of the screw hotter than the bottom idk

[candid pond]

Classic gearbox try to add a cool effect but do it completely wrong lol

[brazen flame]

I guess it could be explained by a coating that emits black body radiation

isn't fully coated

[modest forum]

Should I try to fix this?

[tall surge]

nah

[hardy rock]

At the vault

[fair igloo]

is that a shotgun in my face or are you just happy to see me

[fair igloo]

your screen or the skill tree

[modest forum]

Skill tree

[fair igloo]

the skill tree is fine, your playstyle = your choices

but why is everything so blue

[viscid ermine]

Majority of this playtime is SATURN and Warrior.

[fair igloo]

ugliest enemy in the series

[deft forge]

what are you doing in this situation

[midnight mesa]

Give him a big hug

[shrewd rampart]

I'd be dragging him around and letting him murder everything he can get his hands on.

[sweet adder]

Anyone on rn on xbox

[deft forge]

he already killed every enemy in the area and every other goliath

[shrewd rampart]

Ah, well, then I would just either ditch him or kill him. Looks he glitched up in that picture.

[fair igloo]

well that was fast

didn't even need to farm

[peak ether]

On Axton though?

[fair igloo]

what about it

it's for jakobs allegiance axton

[peak ether]

It's just a questionable choice

[shrewd rampart]

He is surprisingly good with Jakobs.

Even before using the Unofficial Community Patch and the BL2Fix, I was using Rough Rider, all Jakobs weaponry, Blood of the Seraphs, and Magic Missile.

It ain't efficient, but it is fun.

Oh and the Legendary Pointman COM.

[peak ether]

What no in tree crit does

[shrewd rampart]

Jakobs does not really need crit bonuses due to most of them having very hit crit bonuses to begin with.

Boosting that base gun damage benefits more in the long run.

With a Jakobs Axton, it is raw power. I ran the Elephant Gun, Rustler's Orphan Maker (or Hydra if you want less risk), either the Hammer Buster or Damned Cowboy, and the third was just whatever. Maybe a Maggie, maybe the Twister. That third slot was more of a whatever I felt like.

But my view on a Jakobs build is being able to take as much as I can give. I like being able to take a whole lot of punshment whilst dealing it back.

It does suck beyond base UVHM. You will not push far, if at all, into the OP levels.

[peak ether]

I don't see that as a build I just see that as holding back what weapons you're allowed to use

then again I just don't like using the word build at all for anything Bl1 or 2

[shrewd rampart]

Well, I love Jakobs for the fun of it. You come across to me as another min/max individual. Nothing wrong with that, but I like Jakobs builds which is unorthodox even today.

[peak ether]

What

No I mean Bl2 characters don't have much playstyle variety

To the point that most "builds" are just

[shrewd rampart]

They do, ya just gotta aim a bit lower.

[peak ether]

The exact same picture just with minor details shuffled around to optimize specific weapons

[shrewd rampart]

Yep...but so long as the person is having fun.

[peak ether]

But ultimately the gameplay still feels very samey

[shrewd rampart]

I suppose, I have not played a proper shield Axton in a very long time.

[peak ether]

Zer0 and Krieg at least have melee setups

Fuck

[shrewd rampart]

Yep, and--oh, well, before your fix, we did have someone rocking a goofy Sal melee build using two rapiers and some goofy talents.

On the forums/

[peak ether]

That still works btw

[shrewd rampart]

Oh I know, they published a video, and it was fun to watch.

[peak ether]

Gaige can also melee but it's very much not her strong suit

[shrewd rampart]

I think they were able to take down Hyperious before his hp boost.

I have never really touched Gaige's Anarchy. With her I love zapping the shit out of things.

[peak ether]

That's just holding her back

[shrewd rampart]

shrugs I was having fun, so who cares?

[peak ether]

No Anarchy that is

Only using shock is honestly fine

[shrewd rampart]

Before UVHM was released, there were a lot of builds on the forums. One was a Axton pirate build that was actually geared towards melee and using Scarlett equipment. It along with a ton of builds were gimmicky but fun. Key word being fun.

Then there was the Maya's 'Deal with the Devil' that could kill Hyperius in a single volley from the...Sand Hawk smg I think. I could never pull it off, but others could...at least before it was patched.

Key point is: We had fun coming up with out of the box builds. I am still having fun using a weapon company that is subpar mostly and using builds that more or less suck. I think that is something that has been lost over the years.

[peak ether]

Which manufacturer is that

Because I don't think any of them are that bad

[shrewd rampart]

Jakobs requires elbow grease to work a bit in UVHM and a lot of people hated the company back in the day once UVHM rolled around. I was about the only one that used them. This was long before the Deputy Sal build or the Bekah was released. or even Tina's DLC for the matter with the Magic Missiles helping tremendously with softening up targets.

[peak ether]

Jakobs is amazing wtf are you talking about

Only thing holding them back is no bone

[shrewd rampart]

I am just recalling from the past. Vladof and Maliwan were usually the go to then, with Hyperion up there as well.

We went from TVHM to enemies having 400% increased in health, health regen (which smacked down DoT builds) and some other changes.

Jakobs was NOT favored at all when UVHM was released due to the changes, along with Slag being required.

[peak ether]

Sounds about right for Vladof and Hyperion

Maliwan feels on the weaker side tbh

Their snipers are doing some heavy lifting for their popularity

[shrewd rampart]

Maliwan has the advantage of not taking a hit to base damage in being elemental. Also the Pimpernal, when used right, is a monster.

[peak ether]

^

I just see Hyp and Vladof as the top 2

Dahl and Jakobs are too far behind

Maliwan behind those 2

[shrewd rampart]

Vlad makes some nice equipment.

[peak ether]

Then Torgue and Bandit

But every manufacturer has a wide enough selection of strong guns

[shrewd rampart]

Torgue's advantage is it outside of one enemy in Assassinate the Assasins nothing is immune to it. Also, against bullet reflection enemies, the projectiles move slow enough that if you are standing far enough back you can dodge them.

Otherwise...they are okay.

[peak ether]

Torgue is carried by their strong unique line up

[shrewd rampart]

Assault rifles also suffer a -20% crit or something, which really harms Jakobs.

[sweet adder]

Anyone on xbox rn i can join if you want

[peak ether]

Non unique wise only their Shotguns, launchers, and some ARs are enjoyable

[shrewd rampart]

I like using Torgue on Krieg since he makes explosions explode.

The one thing that constantly annoys me is the Jakobs Cobra deals explosve instead of grenade damage. If it grenade damage, it would have been an amazing sniper rifle in the hands of Axton and even Kreig...but it is explosive.

[peak ether]

????

[shrewd rampart]

I corrected my post, sorry.

[peak ether]

Grenade dmg can be explosive

[shrewd rampart]

It deals explosive instead of grenade.

[peak ether]

Cobra is gun AoE

That's the word you're looking for

[shrewd rampart]

Oh there is a difference.

[peak ether]

It being explosive has nothing to do with it

[shrewd rampart]

Trust me, I tested it a bit, the Cobra is unaffected, at least direct hit, by grenade damage.

[peak ether]

I know

Because it's gun AoE

[shrewd rampart]

That is my point.

[peak ether]

Torgue guns have explosive grenade dmg

Volcano has fire grenade dmg

It being explosive has nothing to do with it

Also Cobra gets Duty Calls because it says it doesn't have an element on the card

[shrewd rampart]

Well since I am in game now I am gonna test the blast and direct with the Cobra for shits and giggles.

Yeah

[peak ether]

But it counts as explosive for element relics because those read the actual dmg instance not the gun card

[peak ether]

It gets boosted by Reaper

[peak ether]

There's 3 types of AoE dmg

[shrewd rampart]

Well Reaper boosts everything...and grenade does not affect blast nor direct of the Cobra.

[peak ether]

Gun which is what Maya can boost with Reaper, Grenade which is what Axton boosts, and Launcher

Explosive is just an element

And has nothing to do with AoE dmg sources

I forgot pure splash but idfk what that implies

[shrewd rampart]

...I was double checking. As I never tested the explosive radius. Some guns are quarky the Kerblaster which deals explosive initially, but that bomb that pops off, last I checked, deals grenade.

Some weapons got weird nonsense going on, so I ran off to double check to make sure the blast from the Cobra didn't do something funky.

[peak ether]

Both deal explosive

[shrewd rampart]

I found that out.

[peak ether]

The rocket deals rocket dmg

The grenade is grenade

[shrewd rampart]

Which goes back around to me wishing it dealt grenade damage...so it could be boosted....BY GRENADE TALENTS.

[peak ether]

I mean

If you want a grenade dmg sniper

The Volcano is an option

Would probably be a lot better too

I was more so caught up in you mixing up dmg source with dmg element

Grenade dmg is a dmg source

Explosive is a dmg element

[shrewd rampart]

...

[peak ether]

Yoo it's the Dentist from Payday 2

[shrewd rampart]

...I am going to go back to playing Bl2. You have a wonderful day.

[peak ether]

[fair igloo]

wish that was jakobs

sadly jakobs makes assassin class mods

[shrewd rampart]

It is rather unusual that Pangolin would make such an item when they heavily deal with boosting shields at the cost of health.

[peak ether]

PointRR man is funny though

[shrewd rampart]

Back when the Unofficial Community Patch required more elbow grease I renamed it the Legendary Leatherneck and...I think I made it Jakobs. Let me see if I can some old footage or pics.

[peak ether]

Grit is hilarious

Jokes aside why did they give the Pointman the legendary treatment and not the Veteran or Grenadier

And did we really need Leg Soldier 2 aka the Leg Engi

And can we not forget the bugged Leg Ranger

[shrewd rampart]

Nah I just renamed it. Shifting its allegiance probably caused issues.

[peak ether]

Class mod manufacturer is cosmetic anyways

Only time it comes up is Jack in Tps and loyalty coms in 1

[shrewd rampart]

It is a very counterproductive COM, both legendary and non, as it boosts talents that are not shield related.

Same with Crisis Management which is a talent that really does not belong on Axton.

Back when the UCP was in development I argued shifting the melee bonus to damage mitigation, not sure if I put forth moving it to the Survival tree or not, but it wound up moving over there regardless.

[peak ether]

I need to play more bl2 and finally get to op10 tbh

[shrewd rampart]

I plan on doing that on Sal so I can fight against an OP10 Iron God.

[peak ether]

Bl2 is the only pre WL game I haven't gotten to max lvl as every VH and I want to fix that

Closest I got was an op9 Gaige I deleted years ago

Rn most of them are around lvl 50

But Gaige is at 62

And Krieg is at 59 iirc

[shrewd rampart]

Only two characters I got to Op8 successfully were Salvador and Maya. The former was with the Deputy Sal build and Maya was a murderous Jakobs run.

Axton I gibbed to OP8 to see if I could run my Leatherneck build...but the damage output was pitful, which didn't surprise so I dialed him back to base.

I think I might have done Kreig, but beyond base, you gotta use the Rough Rider shield, or skip out on SIlence the Voices. It continues to scale so at OP8 a single whack to your own noggin destroys 90% of your health.

Without the Rough Rider that is.

[peak ether]

I do also plan on Chaos lvl 100 every main WL class so

[shrewd rampart]

Only TPS I played beyond BL2, so I am lost on that.

That is the game I only...I think I maxed Athena out on that one. I do not think I did it legit either, but that was a couple years ago.

[peak ether]

Bl3 is hella fun

And Wl has been enjoyable so far

Currently only on my first playthrough as a Spellshot

Next run will be Brr-zerker main

[shrewd rampart]

Recently I tried a melee Maya. It was...okay with the Law and Order. I did clear the Caustic Caverns at level 80 with it, but it was definitely rough.

[peak ether]

Probably Graveborn secondary

[shrewd rampart]

Not sure if either the BLFix or the UCP lowered down the spawn rate of that infamous fire Badasass thresher, but I am happy if it did.

[peak ether]

Which will then lead into Graveborn main for the run after

[shrewd rampart]

I gotta a buddy at work that loved Wonderlands. I usually got stuck there for a good 5-10 minutes. He manages what is called the glove cage; where we swap out protective equipment for new ones.

Think it was the recovering Lootaholic that he loved to play as.

[peak ether]

WL's character system is completely different from the main Bl class system btw

[shrewd rampart]

I remember watching it seeing how the talent system works.

It reminds me of a game called Grim Dawn which is kinda like Diablo.

[peak ether]

Instead of predefined characters with 3 skill trees you create your own custom character and a main class that's permanent

[shrewd rampart]

You pick a main tree, then pick a secondary tree.

Yeah I saw that, that was really cool change up from the previous games.

[peak ether]

I decided on the second class of the current run is the main class of the next

Until I've ran the story as all 7

Then I'll start the Chaos grind

[shrewd rampart]

I heard that was rather tedious.

[peak ether]

I tend to play the same small number of games for a long time

[shrewd rampart]

...but than again I want to fight an Iron at Op10 with the deputy sal build which is going to require 40-45 minutes of intense clicking, so who am I to judge?

[shrewd rampart]

That looks about right for a Salvador rolling up to a raid boss with the intent of folding them up like a cheap lawn chair.

[candid pond]

If you get your rocket ammo to zero it gives every projectile moneyshot aswell

[shrewd rampart]

I knew of the main hand's damage and benefits rolling over to the left hand, but not that as well.

That was one of the things about the Deputy Sal build was the max damage bonus of money shot was given to the Rustler's Orphan Maker due to the Grog Nozzle's magazine capacity.

[grizzled oracle]

true

[shrewd rampart]

Along with the hidden critical bonus of the Grog Nozzle which is something along the lines of 200%. Salvador is just an anomaly, and one I do not think we will ever see in the Borderlands franchise ever again.

[eager laurel]

I wouldn’t really say it’s “rolling over to the left hand”, more accurately, the game just doesn’t check the original projectile’s stats, so it defaults to checking the main hand

[shrewd rampart]

More of a simplified term but you are indeed correct.

[eager laurel]

that’s why it gets damage, mag state, element and velocity. It’s basically like you fired it from the main hand

[shrewd rampart]

Also the Grog Nozzle's accuracy lose does not affect the off hand. Nor does moving around make the crosshairs expand.

[eager laurel]

This game was not designed for two guns at the same time

[shrewd rampart]

Which is hilarious because Salvador exists.

"Game is not designed for someone who can dual wield...so let's throw in someone who can and watch the fireworks."

[peak ether]

Yeah

Rn the class combo I'm running is Chillmonger (Spellshot + Brr-zerker)

So next playthrough might be Brr-reaver (Brr-zerker + Graveborn)

Spellshot Graveborn also has a cool combo name

Deadshot

[shrewd rampart]

Now that is cool. I like Deadshot from the DC universe before they goofed him up a bit.

[peak ether]

Every class combo has a cool name but there is no difference between your main and secondary class performance wise

The only difference is your main is permanent

You can change your secondary after the main story as many times as you want

Also you unlock your secondary class's second action skill at lvl 18

While your main's is at 10 iirc

[shrewd rampart]

That's neat. I might have to look into that game later on. My dislike for Gearbox's nonsense with BL3 has long since faded.

[peak ether]

My dislike for Gbx nonsense has started with 4 lmao

I loved Bl3 as soon as I got my hands on it

[shrewd rampart]

It was with three due to the Epic Store deal that lasted six months. I went off the rails because of that.

[peak ether]

Right

I actually prefer 3 heavily over 2

[shrewd rampart]

I heard the gun mechanics were superior in three over 2.

[peak ether]

They are

[shrewd rampart]

Not sure if my PC can handle the newer installments, and I may not out of spite of Pitchford, that and I still have a lot I can do in BL2. I had only recently come back after a...six year hiatus. It is almost like playing it all over again.

BL4 would definitely obliterate my PC.

It was mid back in 2020.

[peak ether]

3 should be fine but I play on console

4 hell no

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah I bailed on console just after Gears of War 3 and Halo 3 when dlcs were starting to become commonplace and the lack of a internet connection was starting to become a problem.

[peak ether]

I want to switch to pc eventually

Bl3 and Metro Exodus are my performance benchmarks I want to hit

[shrewd rampart]

PC is a mess right now with certain pieces zooming off into the sunset price wise and the nonsense with WIndows 11.

The new Steam machine might be worth considering as it bridges pc with console, and you'd be able to use Steam to get a lot of games.

[fair igloo]

i can play 3 on my laptop

but like

i have 1, 2 and pre-sequel with a lot of stuff to do in them

also downloading 74 gigs of something doesn't sound like a fun time

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah, same. The first game I got a lot of ground to cover. TPS the same, and with TPS there are mods that greatly improve that game as well.

[peak ether]

I forgot Bl3 does that

[fair igloo]

bl3 has almost the same amount of gigs as the 3 first games combined

[shrewd rampart]

...oph

[peak ether]

Yeah that's a justifiable reason not to play it

Game takes up a huge chunk of my console's internal storage

[fair igloo]

troy leeches all the memory on your device

also bl4 takes up 26 more gigs than bl3

so i have 1 more reason on the pile for bl4

[shrewd rampart]

I knew the fourth one was a bloated carcass but MOTHER[censored] 100+ gigs?

[fair igloo]

100 on the dot

and we don't have dlcs yet, so it'll be way more

[shrewd rampart]

lol nope even if my pc could handle it and if I didn't have a serious grudge against gearbox, overriding my previous comment I am, that is a big ol pill to swallow.

[fair igloo]

100 gigs for a game that has copy pasted boss fights?

nah no ty

[shrewd rampart]

It has a 52% positive review rate on Steam atm.

[fair igloo]

for now

also that's the people who could afford the game

wonder what it would be like if more people could buy it

[shrewd rampart]

Will have to wait when it goes on sale then.

[fair igloo]

yea

will also have to wait for those same people to get a device that can run it

[shrewd rampart]

I had heard it was horrifically unoptimized and requiring some serious tech to get it to run properly.

[midnight mesa]

Base BL4 is that much of space?

[fair igloo]

yea

[midnight mesa]

Jesus

[shrewd rampart]

My buddy at work who is a blind Borderlands fanatic said he didn't like the fourth one.

[midnight mesa]

But you mean BL3 base game or BL3 with all the content that was added?

[fair igloo]

steam lists minimum requirements

and i don't have 3, so i think it just lists the base game

[shrewd rampart]

Both minimum and recommended state 100gb for BL4.

[midnight mesa]

Knowing that was going to be an open world, it always happen that the storage goes up dramatically

Still, it amazes me how it can occupy so much space and just being the base game

[fair igloo]

i'm gonna go look at moxxi now

[shrewd rampart]

I watched a couple reviews on BL4: Greatly expanded skill trees clashing with short campaign, boring open world, and the new game plus system sucks.

Which the boring open world thing has been a thing of an issue, at least dlc wise, since the first one.

[midnight mesa]

Also the music is so forgettable

[fair igloo]

i watched a streamer play 4, i forgot the music in like 30 minutes after the stream ended

[shrewd rampart]

I'll never forget when Fighting Off the Skags switched on when I was in Skag Gully and my very first Badass Skag came rushing out of a skag den to charge me.

[midnight mesa]

Also, there is also much less of music in the base game of BL4 compared to almost any game of the entire saga

[shrewd rampart]

I was crossing that one metal bridge and the glowing eyed organic tank emerged while playing as Roland for the first time.

[fair igloo]

yea when that music comes on i flinch from the flashbacks i get of all the badass corrosive alpha skags i've had to fight

[midnight mesa]

Also even the soundtrack of BL1 still has some incredible music

[shrewd rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAyMuouQr98&list=RDpAyMuouQr98&start_radio=1

[fair igloo]

those things are bosses themselves

[shrewd rampart]

Dude it was those eyes.

You just fight these things that are dirt colored, and then you see one of those come out.

[midnight mesa]

The badass skags just look really scary with those eyes

[fair igloo]

nearly shat myself the first time i saw one, bc it being corrosive made it not weak to its one weakness

i once had to fight 2 at once

[shrewd rampart]

Them and badass brutes.

You hear that tinktinktink of a heavy machine...you better run for cover.

[fair igloo]

i had to look up brute

you're basically just fighting taylor kobb all over again

[shrewd rampart]

Bruiser, I think, my bad.

[fair igloo]

oh

brute is an enemy in bl3

they always use a rocket launcher

anyway yea, i faced a badass bruiser on my maliwan allegiance roland run in the safehouse, that shit is so scary

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah, they can pack a tremendous amount of firepower.

Back in the first one heavy machines guns made an iconic tinking sound, at least the really nasty ones, so if you heard that going off you did not want to eat multiple bullets if you can help it.

[fair igloo]

this one had a blue shock rocket launcher

[shrewd rampart]

If you were very unlucky one would roll up with an Atlas Ogre. I never had it happen, but have heard of people getting obliterated by them.

[fair igloo]

i think i've had that happen to me, was wondering why that one was so deadly

no wonder

[shrewd rampart]

Actually, I think the worst enemies to face of all time were badass caustic troopers.

[fair igloo]

i just ended up save quitting

[shrewd rampart]

In the Knoxx dlc. Every time I saw one of those I just noped out.

[fair igloo]

ig the wiki doesn't have a page on those, the only enemy named trooper is a borderlands 3 miniboss group called power trooper

[shrewd rampart]

https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Lance_Chemical_Trooper

Click the badass section. They got tanks on their backs.

[fair igloo]

ah i see

that's why the wiki probably doesn't have it in the disambiguation

it would be in the lance disambiguation

[shrewd rampart]

I don't think I ever killed one as I didn't find them worth the effort and they never were in the way. They can do a lot of damage in a short amount of time and like all Lance they are heavily armored. You can blow their backpacks up.

Pretty much with every other Lance member if you have any corrosive weaponry, or even the Maliwan Defiler, they're easy.

[peak ether]

Bl4 looks like a watered down Bl3 to me

[fair igloo]

bl4 looks like destiny 2 to me

[peak ether]

Or to be more exact Gbx learned all the wrong lessons from 3 and tried to bring back Bl2 fans while still trying to have 3's changes

And the end result is a game that has none of what made both games good

[shrewd rampart]

None of my friends on Steam have touched BL4.

[fair igloo]

the only thing i like about bl4 is the design of female psychos

i mean

there is another design choice i like

but that's a spoiler for the end of the game

[peak ether]

Lilith?

[fair igloo]

[peak ether]

Basically the wording Gbx used in the marketing raised huge red flags for me

"more serious tone"
"Legendaries are rare again"

[shrewd rampart]

I just thought it was funny they released the trailer for BL4 not far behind the trainwreck of a movie.

[peak ether]

They were pandering hard to the Bl2 fans

[shrewd rampart]

I didn't feel pandered to, and I am a BL2 fanboi.