bl1-2-tps-media

[leaden stag]

Id rather chew glass than willingly see that

[rough galleon]

but like what did you want to know; it doesnt show anything about increase melee dmg but it does take 2x more dmg from explosives

[leaden stag]

all I know is they do

[rough galleon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[leaden stag]

from hitting them with melee

[rough galleon]

its most likely cuz every other element does 75% less dmg (except slag which is 50%) so NE wins

and melee is NE

[leaden stag]

that would mean every other enemy in the game has innate damage reduction

that seems kinda intricate

[rough galleon]

no, you would need to check every skeleton.

this is what I pulled up for Crystal cuz you asked for Crystal

[leaden stag]

yeah every other skeleton has the usual fuck you to fire

[rough galleon]

Example, this is boom skeletons
its resistances are much more difference

[rough galleon]

thats cuz of PhysMat_Skeleton, it makes fire Neutral

and yes, its a stupid code name

oh, hmm, boom skeleton does take 75% less dmg from fire but neutral to the rest on top of its PhysMat so lol

[leaden stag]

uh yeah my memory is no good for such things I just use what I know hits best

[rough galleon]

Skelly Mages aren't resistant to fire like the archers or booms, but they are highly resistant to Shock, neutral to rest

but yeah, its a case by case scenario and usually, NE isn't affected making it the better choice

bruh, the Skeleton bosses/kings are 75% resistant to every element BUT NE and Explosive

if you were using a shock Lady Fist, you were doing yourself a disservice to a degree lol

anywho, there's your TED talk of why skeletons are shit, bai bai

[leaden stag]

was gonna say I just use explosive mainly on the tina dlc

[blazing lodge]

Question, at what point are you meant to explore these areas?

[scenic briar]

Cove and underdome I don't remember the levels for, but T-Bone is post-campaign (35, 51) and Tartarus is 13 and 42

[tawdry shell]

jakobs cove and tartarus can be done either really early or after you beat the playthrough, t-bone is always meant for after the story

underdome is pretty much just an activity for when you've hit max level and wanna do extra content

if you've never done them before however i would just recommend playing them in release order after going through like the 2nd playthrough or something

[wheat harbor]

isnt jakobs’ level WAY higher
where tartarus is a bit above the main mission

jaakobs is like 30 to start or somethin

[tawdry shell]

i could’ve sworn jakobs you could do low as well

maybe not that low but i recall trying it after like dahl headland i think

[wheat harbor]

i know you can skip jakobs

[tawdry shell]

this was all the way back on the xbox 360 however

haven’t touched the zombie dlc in years really

[peak ether]

They're the same lvl

Smh my head

[wheat harbor]

huh
i always thought zombie was postgame

[peak ether]

Nope

Only Knoxx is made with postgame specifically in mind

Even tho all dlcs are canonically after the main story

[rough galleon]

Bl3 on a switch is impressive

[tawdry shell]

im surprised they got it working on there

bl2 lags on switch just from torgue weapons :p

[acoustic canyon]

wtf 2nd gift shop of the day

[dense forge]

Is pyro pete supposed to drop the Volcano?

[scenic briar]

Not specifically, so that's a world drop, and a thematically appropriate one at that!

[acoustic canyon]

crying rn

@peak ether

[scenic briar]

One day I'll get a merc COM like that... maybe

[acoustic canyon]

you willlll

[acoustic canyon]

this game mocks me so much bro

[dense forge]

nice

[dense forge]

BRO

[leaden stag]

haderax pilled

I guess

[dense forge]

this same run he also dropped a slag O-Negative

bro must want to be farmed lol

[crimson furnace]

peep the com

also man i miss her

[fair sluice]

Hellfire is gonna be happy with that com

[crimson furnace]

i got a good hellfire too

[crimson furnace]

wrong one

\

bl1 gun screenshot system bugged

[fair sluice]

Yeah was about to say

[rough galleon]

thats a weird looking Hellfire

[peak ether]

Uh what

[tawdry shell]

there's an in-game screenshot feature?

[fair sluice]

No HX tho..? Well any hellfire is a good hellfire.. least it has fair fire rate compared to all the ones I’ve gotten

[peak ether]

You don't want an ultra high fire rate

On the Hellfire

Burns tech too fast

[fair sluice]

Hm didn’t know since I like play bl1 very little

But guess it does make sense when I’m burning through a lot of ammo

[peak ether]

HX is still best body

[fair sluice]

Yeah that’s what I got

[crimson furnace]

Yeah right click and press screenshot

[fair sluice]

Think a high fire rate HX 400?

[peak ether]

But if using it specifically for DoTs you want a thumper mag

[crimson furnace]

At least I enhzncdx

[tawdry shell]

wack

maybe it's not on og

[crimson furnace]

Enhanced, damn this phone

[peak ether]

HX no thumper mag is max fire rate

[fair sluice]

Then that’s probably what I got

But I haven’t checked in like forever

[crimson furnace]

I also have a hx

But it's level 34

[fair sluice]

Like I said I play bl1 VEERY little

Haven’t played it since I tired craw and well.. didn’t end too nicely

[rough galleon]

tbh
levels never really mattered when it comes to DoT in bl1
unless the enhanced did something different

[peak ether]

They didn't change that for enhanced

[rough galleon]

%hp bby

[tawdry shell]

would've been really funny if they randomly messed with it tho

"you know how people like dot damage in 1?"
"yeah?"
"change it."

[crimson furnace]

Lmao

how bad is the build

[peak ether]

They changed launchers because ppl didn't like them

Spoilers they made them worse

[peak ether]

Not very

[crimson furnace]

Anything I can improve

[peak ether]

1 point in Black Out and drop something for Girl Power

[crimson furnace]

K

[peak ether]

I genuinely don't know what tho

Probably Enforcer

[dense forge]

from the PP chests

[lofty flame]

Who ate the third grenade in the chest?

[rough galleon]

me

[tawdry shell]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-tussiniiduk32-gif-27701794

[rough galleon]

exactly

[dense forge]

was some random purple

I grab them to sell to keep the farm going

[crimson furnace]

Gub

Guh

What are those numbers

[dense forge]

huh?

[crimson furnace]

Mistype

[dense forge]

no like what were you trying to say?

or like what numbers? the stats?

[rough galleon]

its normal for BL2 if you haven't reached high levels in it

[peak ether]

Neat

Barrel 1 sadly

@acoustic canyon

Sorry whoever I accidentally pinged

[acoustic canyon]

did you find it now

[peak ether]

Look

[acoustic canyon]

did you

yes

lucky asf

[peak ether]

I wanted the Skullmasher more tbh

[acoustic canyon]

is this og

[peak ether]

Yes

[acoustic canyon]

no gift shop

[tawdry shell]

there is a gift shop

[acoustic canyon]

but it sucks

[tawdry shell]

it’s just regular red chests

[acoustic canyon]

I'd run armory all the time if i was in og

actually craw

[peak ether]

I'm gonna test this Bessie out

[acoustic canyon]

one shots limbs I bet

[peak ether]

Scooter can you not

[peak ether]

One shots bandits

[acoustic canyon]

no way

[peak ether]

Now I really gotta get a decent Specter on this lil

[acoustic canyon]

check arid hills vending machine

[peak ether]

Fuck it I'm finding my other Bessie

[acoustic canyon]

it's where I got my first max roll sniper com

[peak ether]

Can't spawn there

[acoustic canyon]

why

craw only?

[peak ether]

It's on one of my Mordecais

[peak ether]

Dlc item

[acoustic canyon]

are you gonna mule it to your lilith

or what

[peak ether]

No

[acoustic canyon]

what you gonna do then

[peak ether]

This Lilith has the mission that rewards it done but not turned in

[acoustic canyon]

that rewards what

????? a bessie

[peak ether]

The Specter

[acoustic canyon]

I lost the plot

[peak ether]

Why does this mordy have a Jackel

[acoustic canyon]

you said I'm finding my other bessie

[peak ether]

I wanna use it on Mordy

[acoustic canyon]

ay that's my mordi then

I have a jackel too

[peak ether]

And one of mine has one

[acoustic canyon]

oh so you not finding a specter com anymore

[peak ether]

Not right now

[acoustic canyon]

gotcha

[peak ether]

I'll be going for it eventually

[acoustic canyon]

no I mean it's boring as hell I don't blame you

and you don't even have Gift Shop which is alright for coms

[peak ether]

Specter can't spawn there either

[acoustic canyon]

I'm gonna capitalize gift shop when I talk about enhanced

[acoustic canyon]

that's even worse

[peak ether]

Like I said it's a dlc item

[acoustic canyon]

didn't know robolution wasn't a dlc

[peak ether]

Am I going insane I'm not seeing it

[peak ether]

Only dlc 3 has exclusive items

[acoustic canyon]

maybe wrong mordi try the 29th one

[acoustic canyon]

ohhh

[peak ether]

Please don't tell me it's on a Roland

[acoustic canyon]

do you have a pearl on all your saves lol

[peak ether]

No

Found it

Body 3 barrel 1

Mordy shouldn't care

[acoustic canyon]

pearls being as randomised as everything else is mad work

[peak ether]

Yeah he doesn't

God I love this gun

What a difference

I think the Rolling accessory is nerfing the dmg

[swift lark]

didnt know it would do that lol

[leaden stag]

wait till you see the other one

wait what

[acoustic canyon]

@pallid garden u never saw this?

it's a first time for me.

[peak ether]

Why are they all corrosive

[pallid garden]

All legendaries yes, but never the same one

Closest I always get is three equalizers

The day I get all four equalizers I might just retire

[acoustic canyon]

oh bruhh yeah I got 3 defilers once

[acoustic canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/green-light-dank-dank-alert-bonusly-dank-bonusly-gif-11942595

[jolly tartan]

i thought you were supposed to be the blue guy

[leaden stag]

he is color blind

[jolly tartan]

im so sorry for your loss

[grizzled oracle]

funny big number

[leaden stag]

hitting visible dmg cap at lvl 56 funnier

[grizzled oracle]

weak

do it at 31

[wheat harbor]

youve heard of green build and blue build
now try green humour and red humour

[jolly tartan]

thats more like it

[tawdry shell]

[outer hare]

Wow you graphics…

[grizzled oracle]

yeah my game goes into low poly mode sometimes

[outer hare]

What’s ur specs?

[grizzled oracle]

Xbox series x

[outer hare]

That’s like the one that’s like

PS4

Or ps5

To many letters😔

[tawdry shell]

the newest xbox

[outer hare]

Ok ok so ps5

[tawdry shell]

yea

the ps4 era was alongside the xbox one

(still should’ve just went with xbox 720 smh)

[peak ether]

Xbox One was the dumbest console name ever

I know why they chose it

It's just stupid

[tawdry shell]

yeah

[fair sluice]

Xbox one after 360? Yup ship em out

[tawdry shell]

they should’ve gone with like
the xbox swag
or something

[wheat harbor]

xbox one s
xbox series s
xbox series x

[fair sluice]

Very dumb names that got longer

[tawdry shell]

it was called xbox one cause it was supposed to be an “all in one” system or whatever

[peak ether]

Yup

[tawdry shell]

even like the improved versions of the consoles have bad names compared to 360

[peak ether]

the ps2 is right there

[tawdry shell]

360 had what the slim and like the elite?

idk why they didn’t keep that naming scheme instead

adding the letters on the end just mixes shit up

[peak ether]

As much as I prefer Xbox Ps just has the better naming scheme

Even if it is boring

[fair sluice]

Yeah PS kept it consistent with just the number

[peak ether]

It fills the job well

[fair sluice]

Xbox got confusing ass naming for the consoles

[peak ether]

You can immediately tell which iteration it is

[tawdry shell]

they didn’t go with the number scheme cause they didn’t wanna seem behind the PS

i don’t think it would’ve have really mattered but having the Xbox 2 next to PS3 would’ve made it seem somewhat inferior in a way

the 360 name worked just fine but they should’ve just like
kept going with the numbers

[peak ether]

Not Xbox going from
Xbox > Xbox 360 > Xbox One???? > Xbox Series X

[tawdry shell]

we would’ve had what
the xbox 720 and then the xbox 1080

[fair sluice]

Ofc Xbox would care about the number order to not seem inferior

[tawdry shell]

would’ve worked out far better

nintendo should’ve named the Wii U the Wii 2 lol

[peak ether]

The WiiU was a terrible naming decision

This thing that sounds like it's a new accessory is actually a whole new console

[tawdry shell]

yeah that was the common misconception

let the wii be remembered longer tho 🙏

greatest console ever made

[rough galleon]

better than the Tesla naming scheme

Model S, 3, X, Y

[peak ether]

It's Elongated Musket what were you expecting

He named his child a fucking math equation

[rough galleon]

i know
the child is gonna be bullied for the weirdest way to say Alex lol

[peak ether]

That's the unfortunate thing

Poor kid got Zarpedoned irl

[tawdry shell]

100% gonna change their name when they’re older most likely

i don’t think elon musk has had any kids that actually associate with or like him lol

[peak ether]

I wouldn't want to associate with anything related to him

Also the Cyber truck looks even dumber in person than online

Because I've actually seen one

[tawdry shell]

same

halo ce ahhh car

[peak ether]

Imagine driving an irl warthog

A Halo player's dream right there

[lofty flame]

Eugh

[ionic wadi]

Yo anyone know if it’s possible to get a fibber on dragon keep??

[opal ingot]

unless you have the patch no

[outer hare]

True

[tiny flint]

is this the worst possible hide of terra?

(the game is modded but i dont think part roll chances changed)

[opal ingot]

yes

[cunning sable]

Rare in a new manner!

[tiny flint]

Idk if im lucky or unlucky

[leaden stag]

bandit

[grizzled oracle]

no

[leaden stag]

ew gunnerang

[peak ether]

Gunerang doesn't have that barrel

[leaden stag]

oh

[peak ether]

It's also not even in tps technically

[leaden stag]

jokes aside its idiot gimmick would work better there cause cry

o

[heady raft]

this kinda sucks

[blazing lodge]

Question. Is this a Repeater?

[tawdry shell]

that’s a revolver

if you go on lootlemon you can sort by weapon types and look at examples

[blazing lodge]

Aigh

[tawdry shell]

there’s 2 pistols that both use repeater ammo tho
repeaters and machine pistols

repeaters, revolvers, and machine pistols all get buffs from anything that says it buffs pistols tho

[wheat harbor]

still very funny they lumped em in like that

but honestly
ill take it

who needs anarchy when you have double thanatos and gun crazy

[tawdry shell]

so true

[novel bane]

Mhmmmmm

[novel bane]

Shush.

[novel bane]

?

[fiery ingot]

So I was right then.

[novel bane]

yea

[lavish crag]

THERE IT IS

[novel bane]

Huh

[frail walrus]

what a fun grinding area

wish it was infinite

[opal ingot]

it technically is

[leaden stag]

till you get bored out of your mind

think one time I did like 3 or 4 levels there

twas a killing spree

[sullen yarrow]

absolute nightmare to complete this on uvhm

[leaden stag]

if you freeze them all the stupid turrets eventually chip them down

you just gotta pay focus to which bandit they are focusing

and beware of the badass midgets slamming at you

[zinc gyro]

a bit off topic, but what mod is showing the parts

[tawdry shell]

python part notifier

[zinc gyro]

thx ^^

[tiny flint]

What blue knight from castle crashers said

[tawdry shell]

[blazing lodge]

So what exactly is this for?

I'm a bit confused.

[rough galleon]

Health kit but you can keep it on you to use whenever

Whether or not that seems valuable to you, you decide

[blazing lodge]

No I mean the Bank

I don't wannt lose my shit if that's what this mechanic is implying

[tawdry shell]

store items in the bank

it’s like a minecraft chest

[rough galleon]

its just a storage unit
the first in the series so you can store whatever you want in there and take it out but this isnt shared with other save files

[tawdry shell]

you just put stuff in there

[rough galleon]

terraria chest smh

[tawdry shell]

[rough galleon]

😦

[celest perch]

rolling spattering drop from chemical lance !

current drops

[scenic briar]

This is the rarest one of these I ever got, funny gun! Very loud

[blazing lodge]

Question. Do the enemies in the underdome scale with your character?

I ask this because if this game actually fucking thinks I can do this by myself for THAT long, then fuck that shit.

Decided to go to the other DLC and THIS thing appears.

Like, am I meant to kill this thing?

[rough galleon]

its an easter egg
those midget psychos are notoriously high leveled lol

[scenic briar]

It's one spawn for that enemy, I think the other one scales to mission level, but the one in t-bone is either 61 or 69 based on playthrough

[blazing lodge]

Thankfully it doesn't seem too interested in hurting me

[rough galleon]

he will if you get too close

hes guarding his love shrine lol

[scenic briar]

There's another Meat Popsicle in Lockdown Palace that isn't that high

[blazing lodge]

Well I got right up on his face and pumped him with half of my shotgun ammo so

[tawdry shell]

i think it’s only that one

[blazing lodge]

Gave decent experience at least

[tawdry shell]

the other midgets are regular levels, and the other meat popsicle in the lockdown palace is a regular level as well

[blazing lodge]

Ah.

So like... has anyone here actually gotten into a team and completed the underdome missions?

Because there's no checkpoints and each round lasts a while.

And there's 5 rounds for each of the 3 arenas. Like, are the rewards even that good?

[scenic briar]

One (1!) skill point from doing all of them

[rough galleon]

ah mb then

[rough galleon]

people have done it solo

[blazing lodge]

somehow

despite it doing a level cap.

[blazing lodge]

Well, I really don't like relying on others for help, but I can't do the Underdome alone.

[blazing lodge]

Know what? I feel like the DLC is starting to get too hard and obnoxious.

I'm just gonna move to BL2

[tawdry shell]

rest of the dlc isn’t annoying lol

underdome isn’t something you really do more then like once

[severe stump]

Unless you like suffering being a completionist

[peak ether]

I've done the 20 rounders solo as all 4 vhs

[severe stump]

Damn, that's commitment

I actually respect that a whole lot

[peak ether]

3 of them was with save edited perfect gear tho

So I might run them again with legit farmed gear

If I ever have the time to

[severe stump]

I respect that even more

[leaden stag]

I got too bored of it

[dense forge]

this has gotta be the funniest thing to have Pyro Pete the Invincible drop

[green oar]

idk i'd say that's pretty smart of him to be immune to fire, shock and corrosion

[zinc gyro]

Raid boss is immune to headshots, shock fire an corrosion, what is left?

EXPLOSIONS
sponsored by Mr TORGUE

[leaden stag]

neutral damage:

[cunning sable]

Using the Tresspasser to remove his helmet and gain crits back

[leaden stag]

ignore the tresspasser for amigo sincero unless you dont have lilith dlc

[deep charm]

funny blurred trickster build

[green oar]

What even happened

[trim hinge]

chain reaction pimpernel bunker

you spawn new bullets until bunker dies

or the game dies

either or

[deep charm]

Blurred trickster+Pimpernel can chain infinitely and cause the game to crash

[trim hinge]

basically what happens with b0re

but the way b0re calculates damage makes it way more likely to just kill

[deep charm]

B0re doesn't create any new projectiles, so it almost never crashes the game

[trim hinge]

yep

[deep charm]

Chain reaction does, and each Pimpernel projectile can create multiple additional projectiles

[trim hinge]

you can also recreate it with gaige and nth degree with a twister

[green oar]

I love when my skill exponentially multiplies 100% damage increase thousands of times in a single second

[trim hinge]

so technically 3 characters can b0re bunker

[deep charm]

If you want to avoid crashing the game, you need to stay below ~7-8 points in chain reaction

This is only a problem on bunker tho

[deep charm]

Do we count bloodsplosion as a bore?

[trim hinge]

no

[deep charm]

Damn

[green oar]

I mean theoretically it could one shot anything

[deep charm]

What could

[green oar]

Bloodsplosion

You just need 20% of a boss' hp in overkill damage

[deep charm]

Well yeah, I just think it's funny to call bloodsplosion a bore

[green oar]

Boresplosion

[deep charm]

Bl00dspl0si0n

[green oar]

Real

[tawdry shell]

the only thing i remember of bloodsplosion is there’s a way to make an infinite chain

some side mission involving brooms in the tina dlc

they respawn in time for the chain to keep going and they never stop respawning lol

[trim hinge]

thats quite funny

finally can surpass moze's one shot damage potential

[green oar]

Lmao

[deep charm]

I don't think you even need that. If there's any ads around, fastball easily chains to damage cap in 3-4 explosions

[leaden stag]

the damage cap is just devs being lazy with indicators that thing gives up after a certain mark

[green oar]

Well i think there's also a damage cap because op levels and level 80 probably weren't planned at launch

[trim hinge]

damage cap is only visual

you can get damage over it

[green oar]

Well yeah

[trim hinge]

i also dont think they expected people to hit over 4 quadrillion damage in their games

[leaden stag]

well yes but in general they are really bad at estimating the visual limits

to give you an example with the cash indicator alone

that honestly irks me a lot more than the damage one

[trim hinge]

when im so rich my cash overflows back to 0

[leaden stag]

lvl 51 on my mordi and I already cant tell how much cash I actually have

[trim hinge]

thats honestly one of my fav bugs in bl3

[leaden stag]

It pisses me off cause in bl1 vendors are actually worth something

[trim hinge]

bl1 vendors are goated

[leaden stag]

so the next lego I find will prolly not let me see how much it costs nor how much cash I have

[trim hinge]

and then they made em trash in bl2

[leaden stag]

I got a chad defiler earlier

they fixed them for tps

Idk about bl3 dont care enough

[trim hinge]

they pretty good there

[leaden stag]

the last legendary thing from a vendor I found in bl2 was a fucking cradle

[trim hinge]

i dont remember what mine was

think it was a neo or sum

[deep charm]

When I say 'damage cap', I mean the actual damage cap, not the visual damage cap. For borderlands 2, that's 2^32-1

[trim hinge]

is that an integer cap thingy?

[deep charm]

Ya

[trim hinge]

makes sense

[deep charm]

Borderlands 2 was only ever 32 bit, so there's some pretty realistically achieveable limits

[tall surge]

wouldnt it be 2^31 - 1

cuz the number goes from -2.147B to 2.147B

instead of from 0 to 4.294B

[tawdry shell]

[deep charm]

afaik damage numbers in bl2 are unsigned

I might be wrong

[tall surge]

i think theyre not unsigned since its pretty common for challenges to overflow once they reach 2.147B and loop down to -2.147B

[deep charm]

that's all managed by unreal engine, although the devs can probably specify data types in the scripts. I'm not aware of damage numbers overflowing, so either they're unsigned, or have some kind of overflow protection

or they're 64 bit ints and I'm talking out of my arse, but I don't think ue3 supports that

[fiery ingot]

I have fully filled out every main map, I guess it’s gonna be a delayed pop

[acoustic canyon]

I'll take the 2.7% dps increase I guess

[acoustic canyon]

@peak ether wtf

[swift lark]

im gubbin it rn

[opal ingot]

truly

[dawn galleon]

Thays like 2 different things lol the @ing can be ignored easily

It's most likely a personal issue and u are diving to deep into it

[grizzled oracle]

i will dive deep into your mother

[dawn galleon]

Sheesshhh

[leaden stag]

reasonable crashout

[fiery ingot]

Max fire rate thanks hyperius

Wish that mag was at 105 though

Also what grip is that?

[lofty flame]

Vladof

[trim hinge]

with da matching grip!!!

and non elemental

trash

sell it

[fiery ingot]

Hyperius never has his Shredifiers in element 💔

literally always non-elemental every time they drop

[trim hinge]

bad gun anyways

[fiery ingot]

rip

I can bet this is easily a bad hide.

[lofty flame]

It has a maliwan part

Or 2 im not the person to differentiate between maliwan and pangolin

Make of that what you will

[dense forge]

yeah the funny part was him not wearing it LOL

[dense forge]

farming for a perfect Little Evie and YOOOOOOOOOOO

(this gun sucks to farm for lmao)

[leaden stag]

am not biased I swear

[lofty flame]

Not all 50s fake gamer

[leaden stag]

the char isnt even above 60

[lofty flame]

I know

[leaden stag]

eridian guns will never go above 00

fucking useless

nor launchers tbh

[lofty flame]

I got mine to 50 so skill issue

[leaden stag]

the only times I used them was to kill spiderlings or rakks

[lofty flame]

I killed Craw with the Eridian sniper (as in i dealt the finishing blow)

[leaden stag]

wouldnt the rakk hive help you cheese kills too

[lofty flame]

Yeah but also loot

[leaden stag]

cause I dont feel like dealing with eridian hordes with a piece of shit gun that runs out in 3 shots

[opal ingot]

skill issue

[leaden stag]

yeah eridian manufacturers have 0 skill

[peak ether]

Thunderstorm says hi

[pallid garden]

Barrel 4 best for damage & tech, ppz best body for semi autos, 570 so stock 5 and mag 5, mag 5 gives more size and higher fire rate with a reload penalty, stock 5 is best for accuracy , sight 4 which imo is the superior sight, and finally the .3 means material 3. Oh cherry on top is level 68.

Overall

Realy fucking good Orion

Basically perfect

Only thing that would make it perfect is if you got that out of a vendor item of the day

For lvl 69

[acoustic canyon]

even when I pick it up it says perfect, craziest weapon I found so far

[pallid garden]

That's just the s&s title

[acoustic canyon]

for what?

[pallid garden]

Just the title

Hyperion has crimson

[acoustic canyon]

oh so all of them got it

[pallid garden]

Each manu has their own little title for materials

[acoustic canyon]

dang didn't notice

but yeah still craziest weapon I found so far

[pallid garden]

Imo, basically perfect parted

[acoustic canyon]

I also found a cobra that's even better than the last one, if you wanna check it out

[pallid garden]

One might argue stock 3 & sight 3

For the extra tech

[acoustic canyon]

I wasn't as impressed because I alr had an insane one

[pallid garden]

If you wanna

[acoustic canyon]

2nd one is new

[pallid garden]

Hm

The top one should be the superior one

Oh

The material. I think its like mat 2

Torgue it's hard to tell cause they don't have like a title visualizer

[acoustic canyon]

how would it be better

[pallid garden]

It has barrel 4

Only thing that put the top one down was the mat

[acoustic canyon]

if barrel 4 is best for dmg then how 2nd one got more dmg

[pallid garden]

The material

[acoustic canyon]

so then overall... 2nd is better cuz of the mat?

[pallid garden]

Yup

I mean, the top one has better tech

It looks like the bottom one is barrel 2?

Hard to tell.

So the top one has 1 more tech over the bottom

I think the top one is mat 1

Mat 1 has 20% dmg increase

Bottom one is mat 3. 30% dmg boost

[acoustic canyon]

how does one even achieve the erupting title

over detonating

[pallid garden]

Erupting

Idk

[acoustic canyon]

aight

so need mat 3 and barrel 4 to be perfect.

[pallid garden]

I think it's just one of those where if stats meet a requirement it gets the name

[pallid garden]

Ppz, barrel 4, mat 3.

Would be preem for dmg

[acoustic canyon]

ppz comes from...

[pallid garden]

Body

There's two semi auto sniper bodys

Ppz and Lb

Ppz being superior in every way

[acoustic canyon]

got it

gift shop snipers are always ppz anyway

well, hardly ever see lb.

[pallid garden]

Mag 5 would be preferable but not entirely needed

[acoustic canyon]

the shorter one ig?

[pallid garden]

Uh

Idk

If you see 70

[acoustic canyon]

so the shorter one yes

[pallid garden]

Ig

Mag 5 is model number 7

So you'll know you have it if you see 7, 27, 370, 470 & 570

[acoustic canyon]

yes

got it

[pallid garden]

Mag 5 only appears on semi auto snipers

Mag 2 & 5

Semi exclusive

[acoustic canyon]

I'm good with snipers I just want more mashers lol

and elemental violators.

[copper forum]

there is loading

[pallid garden]

I think it's the combat shotgun

[copper forum]

yeah

[pallid garden]

Try a different weapon type

[copper forum]

thats what im thinking but how do i sort it

ok ill grab another what type

[pallid garden]

I don't know

I don't use willow tree

[copper forum]

fairs

well im modding on the ps3 lol

[pallid garden]

Cause combat shotguns can't be carnage I think?

[copper forum]

im buying a sg15 terrible shotgun

[copper forum]

maybe lemme see

[pallid garden]

Nope that's a big ol false

It's exclusive to combat shotguns

[copper forum]

hmmm

[pallid garden]

Are you porting the save from PS3 to PS4/5?

[copper forum]

ok

ps3

ps3 to pc then editing it

[pallid garden]

And when you load the game on ps3 it disappears

[copper forum]

yes thats correct

with all matching parts i think

i did this

i think its the grip or the barrel

[pallid garden]

Nah

Idk both variants were legal

No clue what the issue would be

[peak ether]

What's going on here

[pallid garden]

Willow tree

[peak ether]

I know that part

[pallid garden]

For some reason the shotgun keeps disappearing

[peak ether]

I think I see why

[pallid garden]

What

[peak ether]

Mat2 Barrel 4 on a Matador

[pallid garden]

That should be legal

[peak ether]

It's not

[pallid garden]

This was the original

Which also disappeared

[peak ether]

Only barrel 4 Matadors that exist are Jakobs mat 3

[pallid garden]

Matador is a title though

[copper forum]

what do i do

[peak ether]

Change material part to Jakobs mat 3 or barrel to 2

[copper forum]

ok ima try it

thank you

[peak ether]

Did it work?

[copper forum]

trying it now

[pallid garden]

Why would the material matter? With a barrel 4

What's the requirement of matador

[peak ether]

Bad accuracy

[pallid garden]

Hm

I see

Mat 3 is -60% accuracy

[peak ether]

Barrel 4's accuracy stat is just barely too good for the matador title

[copper forum]

makes sence

[pallid garden]

Yeah mat2 has 50% accuracy

[peak ether]

But Jakobs mat3 can lower it to meet the requirement

[pallid garden]

I see

I needa learn requirements for titles

[copper forum]

im crossing over the files

[pallid garden]

Well why would the carnage not work then

[copper forum]

the barrel was too good for it i think

[pallid garden]

Carnage is the barrel

[copper forum]

ah ok haha lol

[peak ether]

Jagged prefix w/o blade

[copper forum]

omg makes sense

its loading now

[pallid garden]

Would that be the grip?

[peak ether]

Blade is an accessory

Grips are tied to manufacturer

[copper forum]

it worked

[pallid garden]

Ah I see then

[copper forum]

296x12 damage

0 accuracy

[peak ether]

[copper forum]

0.5 fire rate

thank you

[pallid garden]

The barrel override the acc

So I assume the shotgun was originally jagged

Then you put carnage?

[copper forum]

well im trying to kill craw

yeah

[pallid garden]

I see

A carnage on craw?

[copper forum]

yeah i guess

[peak ether]

[pallid garden]

Lol

[peak ether]

Why

[pallid garden]

Carnage shoots rockets that are dook

[peak ether]

Why would you use a Carnage in that situation

[copper forum]

this shoots bullets#

[pallid garden]

Now it does

[copper forum]

yeah

idk im just stupid sometimes

[peak ether]

The Autism comes in handy

[copper forum]

im trying to figure out what all of the scopes are aswell

yeah lol

[peak ether]

I prefer sight 3 on shotguns

[copper forum]

what one os that

[peak ether]

The one with 2 scopes and uses the box frame

[copper forum]

oh yeah i know the one your on about

[peak ether]

When ads

[copper forum]

i like that one too

;]

[peak ether]

Idk why but the box frame is my favorite scope type

[copper forum]

same tbh

[peak ether]

Sniper scope 3
Revolver sight 2
SMG sight 2

Are the others that use it

[copper forum]

ah ok

[harsh creek]

Would ya just lookitit

[peak ether]

And one of the launcher sights but Idk which one

[peak ether]

It's beautiful

Holy shit your Serpens is assss

[copper forum]

damn

[peak ether]

I would fucking sell it at that point damn

[copper forum]

YES

[harsh creek]

Lol i actually pulled it out of the bank to put a shit ton of eridian stuff in there

[copper forum]

what do u play on?

[peak ether]

Is that a Thumper Hellfire I spy as well

If it is then >:(

[harsh creek]

Oh yea

I play on pc

[peak ether]

Craw please I'm begging you give me one

[copper forum]

i need one

if your on ps3 i could help

[peak ether]

360

[copper forum]

that could work

wait no

[peak ether]

No it can't

[copper forum]

damn i forgor

[peak ether]

Besides I want a Thumper Hellfire specifically

I already have plenty of non Thumper body 5s

[copper forum]

I’ve made it better

553x12

[peak ether]

Swap the Body to 5 instead

For even better stats

[copper forum]

That messes up the fire rate to -14

[acoustic canyon]

so you cheated in a whole ass purple?

[copper forum]

yeah

[acoustic canyon]

allat for a purple shotgun

[peak ether]

Based

[copper forum]

body 5 only makes the fire rate go down

just the fire rate

[peak ether]

Needs a prefix to be a legit roll

[peak ether]

Body 4 is what does that

Not 5

[acoustic canyon]

I must have seen like a billion of those shotguns in giftshop

[tawdry shell]

xx shredder shredder

[copper forum]

ah ok

[tawdry shell]

the funny

[copper forum]

what is the legit roll?

[harsh creek]

Geezus that matador

[copper forum]

for the prefix

[peak ether]

But Idk what the correct one here is

[copper forum]

yeah haha

[tawdry shell]

i still remember my brother having a jakobs smg named that that had like a 50 fire rate or sum

[peak ether]

I want to say Terrible

It's probably Terrible

[copper forum]

its already terrible

[peak ether]

No I mean the actual prefix

[copper forum]

damage or accuracy?

[peak ether]

Not accessory

[copper forum]

so damage?

[peak ether]

[copper forum]

lol

[peak ether]

Should say "Terrible Matador"

[acoustic canyon]

ameko

[copper forum]

yep

[acoustic canyon]

what's the part that makes a weapon elemental

[copper forum]

it says sighted

[peak ether]

Accessory

[acoustic canyon]

and does it decrease dmg?

[peak ether]

By 40%

[acoustic canyon]

holy that's a lot

always 40%?

[peak ether]

Except explosive smgs

Idk why but they get special treatment

[acoustic canyon]

and some legendaries don't got that?

like orion

[peak ether]

Any legendary that uses its own accessory

[acoustic canyon]

huh

[peak ether]

If it doesn't they use the generic elemental accessories

[tawdry shell]

the elemental part

[copper forum]

how do i change sighted

it says sighted matador

[acoustic canyon]

I don't understand

[peak ether]

Legendaries like the Hellfire, Defiler, and Orion use legendary versions of the elemental accessories

[acoustic canyon]

legendaries that use their own accessory are guaranteed to use it yes?

[acoustic canyon]

alright, and are those 3 the only ones?

[peak ether]

But other legendaries that use a different legendary part like the Surkov use the normal ones

[peak ether]

No

Any legendary with a locked element

[acoustic canyon]

firehawk?

cobra too?

[peak ether]

Yes

[acoustic canyon]

does vitriolic crux count

[peak ether]

Yup

[acoustic canyon]

ok last one, chimera?

[peak ether]

Yes

[copper forum]

i got it

[peak ether]

any element locked legendary uses a legendary accessory

[acoustic canyon]

preciate it

[copper forum]

its now a terrible matador

[peak ether]

[acoustic canyon]

the chimera works weird tho

it's explosive but it's not

[copper forum]

could i customize my savior?

smg

[peak ether]

Yes

[copper forum]

i have so many ideas!!!!!

the ammo regen is gonna be crazy

[pallid garden]

?

Max ammo Regen is +25

[copper forum]

damn

i thought u could customize the ammo regen

[pallid garden]

Nah

[acoustic canyon]

gunslinger com can go +29? you mean in weapons

[peak ether]

Not that part

Tediore ammo regen goes off the gun's lvl

And stops there

[pallid garden]

You could make a illegal weapon that has ammo regen

[fiery ingot]

Yep so a level 68 savior will have like 20+ regen

[pallid garden]

Like say a jackal with ammo Regen

[acoustic canyon]

makes sense

that should disappear no?

[pallid garden]

Not if you do it right

[peak ether]

It would

[pallid garden]

There's modding resources and shit

[copper forum]

i broke it again

[peak ether]

Because Defender body on a Dahl shotgun

[acoustic canyon]

just farm atp

[pallid garden]

I've had a bone shredder kyros power

[peak ether]

Deleted?

[copper forum]

yeah

[grizzled oracle]

zamn

[copper forum]

what u playing on?

[peak ether]

Wrong accessory

[pallid garden]

Carnage with barrel 4

[peak ether]

Idek if that's one that happens legit

[copper forum]

ah yeah

would the atlad hydra work on it?

[peak ether]

Just use the Terrible accessory and prefix

[copper forum]

atlas

[peak ether]

No

[copper forum]

kk

ok this shot gun is too good thank you all

[peak ether]

Legendary parts can only go on a specific manufacturer

[acoustic canyon]

ameko I need your help with... something

I can't figure it out on my own

take a no ele weapon, say you want it with a element instead. what parts do you want on it? same as the no ele except for the accessory? or

[peak ether]

Pretty much

Are you planning on save editing?

[pallid garden]

Think it's more of what to look for

[peak ether]

Ah

Don't worry about it

That's my advice

There is a whole rabbit hole of maximizing tech and stuff but like

[copper forum]

i messed up again

[peak ether]

Just use the relevant legendaries

[copper forum]

my equaliser

[peak ether]

Unforgiven barrel on a Tediore

[copper forum]

barre 5?

damn i cant spell

[peak ether]

You put the Legendary Jakobs barrel on a Tediore

[copper forum]

ah ok

barrel 5 or 4?

[peak ether]

5 for best accuracy

4 for damage

[copper forum]

kk

my savior SMG

[peak ether]

That's valid

[copper forum]

it wont work

vanished

[peak ether]

Oh I see

Wrong grip

Tediore uses grip 1

[copper forum]

ok

this also vanished

for some reason

[peak ether]

Wrong grip again

[copper forum]

everytime lol haha

[acoustic canyon]

I wanna hunt for 3 elemental violators, fire shock and corrosive. this is possibly one of my fav weapons and I really want to know what the best rolls for them looks like. can't find anything online

[peak ether]

Jakobs shotguns use grip 4

[copper forum]

im gonna try and make my own gun

give me a catagory and a manufacturer

[peak ether]

Hyperion sniper

[copper forum]

what element or none

[peak ether]

Up to you

[copper forum]

kk

[acoustic canyon]

🥀

[copper forum]

would this work

[harsh creek]

Yea I just tried fiddling around with that. Some arcane voodoo shit

[copper forum]

haha yeah

where Ameko at?

[acoustic canyon]

hopefully theorycrafting violators

[copper forum]

damn

[peak ether]

No

That's a pump action sniper

[copper forum]

what do i change?

[peak ether]

Hyperions are semi auto

Also

[copper forum]

idk what to do lol

[peak ether]

That's a Surkov

[copper forum]

oh haha

what do i need to change in this

[peak ether]

A lot

[copper forum]

give it to me

[peak ether]

Weapon definition needs to be semi auto sniper

Body and Mag can only be 2 or 5

Grip is fine

Prefix should be Liquid if it's body 5

[copper forum]

thje mag and body can only be 1 3 5

[peak ether]

Title should be wrath or lance

[peak ether]

Because you used the wrong weapon definition

It should be semi auto sniper

Not sniper

[acoustic canyon]

first time I see an elemental penetrator

[copper forum]

i could say to hop into a discord call but idk if ur up for it

[peak ether]

Not really

[copper forum]

whick one is the defenition

[peak ether]

Besides I'm playing a game rn

[copper forum]

fairs

[peak ether]

The part that determines the gun type

[copper forum]

this is so confusing 😂

[acoustic canyon]

what are you trying to make

[copper forum]

a hyperion sniper

[acoustic canyon]

which

invader?

[copper forum]

any really

one from scratch

[acoustic canyon]

fym

[peak ether]

Basically there's two types of snipers

[copper forum]

ok

[peak ether]

Pump action and semi auto

They both use different weapon grades

And their bodies and mags are mutually exclusive

Bodies and Mags 1,3, and 4 are exclusive to pump actions

[acoustic canyon]

I don't understand the point of this tbh

[peak ether]

While Bodies and Mags 2 and 5 are exclusive to semi autos

[copper forum]

ah ok

[peak ether]

I'm just gonna quote Marina from Fear and Hunger on this one

"if you don't understand then don't mess with it"

Or whatever she said

[acoustic canyon]

no this looks like a waste of time lol

cheating in niche ass weapons

[pallid garden]

boo womp

[swift lark]

THIS FUCKING GRENADE

[trim hinge]

you suck

[copper forum]

i may have done it

[peak ether]

Wrong title and prefix

[copper forum]

it still works somehow

what should i set them to?

[peak ether]

Liquid and Lance

Crimson actually

Not liquid

[copper forum]

there is no crimson

there is brisk deep sober and vicious

[peak ether]

Crimson is under the universal parts tab

[copper forum]

what is that and what is it called

[peak ether]

[copper forum]

ill find it

[peak ether]

It's been years since I used willow tree

But manufacturer prefixs are in there

[copper forum]

yeah

i found the prefix for liquid

my pistol dont wanna come back

my equaliser

idk whats wrong with it

[peak ether]

Grip 4

Tediore Revolvers use grip 1

[copper forum]

thank you

[peak ether]

This advice is seaming quite relevant now

[copper forum]

the sniper i made does 1163 damage

yeah im only gonna make that 1 weapon and not do it anymore

lol

[dawn galleon]

Wait does willow tree work on console? (Like plug into console and transfer save onto usb and then plug into conputer)

[peak ether]

Yes

But only possible on 360 or ps3

[dawn galleon]

Fffff

[tawdry shell]

common 7th gen W

[dawn galleon]

Wait only the console or just the game version?

[tawdry shell]

console

[dawn galleon]

Ughh I don't wanna search my house to get the xbox 😩

[pallid garden]

You can mod a save on ps3 then transfer to PS4/5

[acoustic canyon]

mag2a?

we call it mag3 right?

[grizzled oracle]

mag tuah?

[pallid garden]

No

Cause there's a mag 3, that's mag2a

Honestly idk

I didn't bother learning repeaters as I don't use them

[acoustic canyon]

but there isn't for repeaters

there is for machine pistols