bl1-2-tps-media

[rain cliff]

Stat is Better Aid Station

which is why I take Fitness

Cauterize and Revive serve no purpose in Solo

So Grit is the only other option

[peak ether]

Move the points in Grit to Aid Station is the only change I'd make

[tawdry shell]

this was what my last build looked like

[peak ether]

Oh wait no that's Fitness

[tawdry shell]

i usually grab scattershot but i was thing to mix up my gear a bit

so i invested more into turret this time around

it’s a lot stronger then you’d think tbh

[peak ether]

Aid Station is still better than Grit

[rain cliff]

Should have 1 point in Guided Missle if using the Turret

[tawdry shell]

it’s not good

[peak ether]

No

The missile is ass

Actual garbage skill

[tawdry shell]

the character overhaul had some nice changes for roland, wasn’t using it this time around tho

[ebon vault]

well i'll get rid of grit next time I come across a fast travel point

[tawdry shell]

aid station is way larger
the missile one makes turret duration extended with kills
grit is global damage resistance
and some other stuff

made him kinda hard to build tbh, lots of stuff i wanted to grab lol

[peak ether]

Outside that minor change in right tree that's pretty much what I run

I can't play Roland w/o Aid Station anymore

[ebon vault]

is the character overhaul a mod?

[tawdry shell]

yeah

mods aren’t really needed for bl1 tho

it’s more a thing you install after you’ve played the game a bunch and want new stuff

there’s the essentials mod that has some bug fix stuff but it comes with issues of its own

until that gets updated with the other QoL stuff i would say just stick to vanilla

[tawdry shell]

im always on 4 player difficulty so i need all the health regen i can get lmao

anyways rate the new build 🔥🔥🔥

[rough galleon]

gamer

[peak ether]

Breaks the code to spec Guided Missile before anything else

Hey Knight did you see the image I posted in media

[tawdry shell]

of your setup?

[peak ether]

Yes

[tawdry shell]

it vaguely reminds me of one of my old setups

[peak ether]

that's not my main tv

[tawdry shell]

back when i first got my pc i didn’t have a desk or a chair

[peak ether]

I just needed to borrow one with AV support

[tawdry shell]

set the pc and monitor on top of my dresser and then used a dining room chair

had to use one of my pillows as a cushion

[peak ether]

My actual TV is on my bed behind me

[tawdry shell]

on your bed?

[peak ether]

Yes

[rough galleon]

skip the middle man
make the tv the bed

[wary sigil]

Which should I use?

[ancient apex]

yeah it's not working

[rough galleon]

turtle imo

FotF is playing up close and with the shield down

[wary sigil]

Ja, I honestlz would probablz do better wit the extra shield cap

[wary sigil]

Any advice on an early good relic/COM? This is what I have rn. I am doing axton, maining rifles, at the Catch a Train quest rn

lvl 57

[rain cliff]

Allegiance Relics are a good early start

Rifleman COM is ideal for Rifles

[wary sigil]

(my autistic ass not being able to spell it in LootLemon(

[rough galleon]

rifleman is fine if using ARs
relic would suggest elemental or cooldown rate, both COM and Relics should be used for dmg imo

[wary sigil]

I dont use manz elemental guns, I generally use Jakobs

[rough galleon]

then yeah
allegiance or anything about rifles

tho elemental would be a better bonus

[wary sigil]

Would allegiance be just red chest/dahl chest/gld chest?

[rough galleon]

1.75x more dmg when matching
shock being 2.5x

then elemental relics is multiplier to the elemental dmg

[rough galleon]

yeah world drop

[wary sigil]

Are red cehsts farmable in BL2 or unique like in BL3?

[rough galleon]

they are refarmable

[wary sigil]

Ohh, nice. Would they be my best bet?

[rough galleon]

bl3 is the only game where red chests arent refarmable

uranus > snowman train chests > highest lvl map you have available for red chests

[wary sigil]

Oh shit, the snowman exists, thats right

I forgot abput that dlc

For the train chests, you get them after killing the snow dude, right?

[rough galleon]

can also consider https://www.lootlemon.com/bonus-item/heart-of-the-ancients-bl2

look for an AR dmg one or Mouthwash

yeah

[wary sigil]

That could go well, since I tend to also enjoy a jakobs pistol now and then

But I will check out the snowman buddz first

How doz ou get tthe quest?

[rough galleon]

it can come as any gun type dmg than launcher iirc

[wary sigil]

Mercenary shop?

[rough galleon]

yes

[wary sigil]

Oh shit tht would be not bad either.

I have to think, would I rather have higher% mag capacitz, or FFYL time and Second WInd health

[rough galleon]

thats why i said look for an AR one

[wary sigil]

Oh im dumb

thats the COM

[rough galleon]

...no
heart of the ancients is the relic

[wary sigil]

No, I was comparing it to the rifleman com

[rough galleon]

oh gotcha

[wary sigil]

I was being fumb

Whats the best way to loot midgets?

I swear BL2 is the only place I can say Midget Boners wihtout gettting weird looks

[leaden stag]

the mercs

[wary sigil]

mercs?

[rough galleon]

dahl abandon in ffs dlc, during space cowboy side quest but make sure not to pick up the mission objectives

otherwise wildlife preservation, doctor orders, 4 boxes, make sure kill everything as you get to the midgets

[leaden stag]

am just fucking around emy already got your answer

and picking up the other mission objectives doesnt matter so long as you dont touch the bathroom one

iirc

[wary sigil]

Ahh, so I gotta go a couple main missions in FFS to get there?

[rough galleon]

port a potty is the first one iirc lol

[rough galleon]

yeah

[wary sigil]

Alright, lemme do that a bit

Danke

[rough galleon]

honestly
a lot of the best farms is in ffs sadly

[leaden stag]

the one that drops from vehicles is so annoying I sometimes just pick it up

[wary sigil]

Are teh loot mdigets as hard as the rest of ffs enemies?

[rough galleon]

they are just smaller badass marauders
so take that as you will

in wildlife
they can also be loaders so they are smaller badass loaders/jet loaders

[wary sigil]

Damn does FFS give more XP?

[rough galleon]

honestly
i never finished the side quest lol

[rough galleon]

whats the context? cuz the normal enemies, not really

[wary sigil]

Infected, I feel like they are gicing decentlz more XP than normal enemies like muarders

[rough galleon]

probs
are you sure its not infected badass?

[wary sigil]

Do I need to do the SPace Cowboys mission, or just be at the Dahl Abandon

[rough galleon]

need the side quest to ensure loot midgets spawn from the port a potty

just dont pick up the magazines

[wary sigil]

IS it a thing where I take the quest and dont complete it?

[rough galleon]

yes

[wary sigil]

Alright

[lofty flame]

All you're really losing on it is not being able to get the Overcompensator (in vanilla at least)

[leaden stag]

which cant even get the practicable prefix

useless butcher

[lofty flame]

In vanilla

[cunning sable]

Even in patch its useless cause the voice is terrible

[lofty flame]

I wasn't exactly talking about patch

I remember playing a mod where it went kinda crazy

[wary sigil]

So I finallz have the quest, where do they spawn?

[tawdry shell]

there’s a bandit camp in the main story of the dlc where you had to like melee a fence down

that bandit camp has the porta potty

if you open it and DONT take the magazine inside then you’ll always get a midget

[wary sigil]

Ja, I found it. Do I just open it, kill midget, then quit-start?

and dont take the mag

[tawdry shell]

yea, don’t grab the mag and your good

i think you can spawn right by the car station at the top when you save and quit

making the whole farm really fast

[wary sigil]

You cant normallz I dont think, since spawns work different than BL3, right?

I do have BSABT so I do spawn at NEW-U's

[tawdry shell]

i could be wrong but i think there’s a fast travel right by that spot?

[wary sigil]

oh theres a fast trabel

[tawdry shell]

yeah

that’s how you spawn there normally without mods lol

so combine that with good load times and it’s like a 30 second farm

[wary sigil]

Consider I am not good and plazing UVHM

more like 2 minute farm'

[tawdry shell]

i mean if you have slag and a fire weapon it shouldn’t take you 2 whole minutes to gun down a loot midget lol

not like you have to clear the whole camp

[wary sigil]

you do know stuff spawns in front of it, right?

Like I said, I am not good at the game

[tawdry shell]

tbf it’s been ages since i’ve done that farm

i always do the wildlife one

actually given the fact that you have BSABT that’d probably be better

normally that midget farm is best for vanilla because of how fast it is

the one in wildlife has 4 midgets but has hella combat before hand

but it also has a save station ahead of all of that lol

[wary sigil]

its not because I just a bunch of time getting here and I will be fucked if I sit here and did it for nothing AND have get all the waz to wildlife

[tawdry shell]

fair

later on tho whenever you clear wildlife that’ll be the best farm

[wary sigil]

The midget takes 5 seconds to kill, everzthing else takes like 2 minutes because its a annoying heavy nomads and ironclads

[tawdry shell]

i forget how many other enemies were in that spot lol

the one in wildlife, if you spawn by that save station, will only have you fighting 2 badass skags and 2 spring stalkers at most

that is if the skags even decide to fight you

[wary sigil]

first time it as a ROUS, goliath, nomad, and various weaks. THis last time it was a heavz nomad, regular nomad, ironclad

And both times I got nothing from the midget

I hate midgets

[tawdry shell]

at least it’s some extra xp :p

[wary sigil]

(ingame

I do like midget boners tho

(ingame)

[tawdry shell]

also yeah uvhm is rough your first time around, i think everyone struggles with it initially

eventually you’ll get a better hang of slagging and healing tactics and it ends up being pretty smooth

[wary sigil]

Whz did this turn into a 2 shooter....?

[tawdry shell]

parts change every save quit

all mission items do that

[wary sigil]

Ahh

... is that whz it sometimes shoots 3...?

[tawdry shell]

drunk effect

[wary sigil]

Fuck whz did 2 caustics goliaths spawn

[tawdry shell]

swapping to the gun (and sometimes just holding it) gets your character drunk

which massively slows fire rate, BUT, gives you like +5 projectiles of something

on anything you hold

so your assault rifle won’t gain much from it, the launcher on the other hand will become brain dead

there’s stats for it hold on

in a lot of situations it’s not that helpful, but depending on the gear you switch to once the effect goes off it’s really funny

[wary sigil]

I just realozed I have been plazing in 90FOV this whole time

[tawdry shell]

the effect also stacks lmao

[wary sigil]

That DEFINITY has in some waz made it harder

[tawdry shell]

i have a funny terra kill i did from getting like a 2 - 3 drunk stack

https://youtu.be/-gLCxpqSQnA?si=p2xWTiBam7SAmq2a

[wary sigil]

I cant stand 90fov in FPS

[tawdry shell]

i forgot the audio tho

[tawdry shell]

if you want there’s an unlocked settings mod

[wary sigil]

SHOLY SHIT 110 is SOOO MCUH BETTER

[tawdry shell]

so you can go above 110

going higher then like 120 messes up the fog on maps for some reason however

idk why it does that

if you wanna feel really fast 140 is like the highest you can go before it becomes nauseating

[wary sigil]

110 just makes me feel more....in control. Not sure whz

My movements, especiallz mouse are just more precise

Ohh, that is quite the upgrade

[tawdry shell]

fastball is silly

not particularly a fan but it’s great on axton (and krieg i think)

[wary sigil]

I happen to be Axton

[tawdry shell]

why i mentioned that part lol

[wary sigil]

I have a question about chances to drop

[rough galleon]

10%

[wary sigil]

How many items can the midget drop. because IF he drops an item, he onlz drops one. Is it that there is a chance to drop an item, and then a chance fo that item to be a certain item?

[rough galleon]

Pretty much the answer to most drop rates

[wary sigil]

?

[tawdry shell]

i think midgets only drop 1 item?

[wary sigil]

Ahh

[tawdry shell]

can be any legendary or pearl that counts as a world drop iirc

[rough galleon]

I want to say its possible for both a relic and legendary/pearl to drop from one loot midget but generally just one

[tawdry shell]

i think shields (and class mods? although they might have one com) can’t be dropped from them

[rough galleon]

COMs can be dropped from them
Shields cant, yea

[wary sigil]

Oh btw

effervesent, how does it rank with other rarities

[rough galleon]

Its ranks

[wary sigil]

Its FFS onlz, right?

[rough galleon]

Either side grades or upgrades basically

Theres nirvana and hellfire being the exact same tho

[rough galleon]

Yeah

[wary sigil]

Cuz one of the annozing achievements I got to do is all effervecent

Is Pearl the best?

generallz?

[rough galleon]

Btw iirc
The travel beside the port a potty to the next map would be faster than the fast travel iirc if that wasnt found out yet

[rough galleon]

No

[tawdry shell]

rarity is just a color in this game ^

[wary sigil]

Its not much closer, and most enemies spawn down there, so its easier to go from the top, qucik kill

[tawdry shell]

some blues are insanely strong
some legendaries are bad
some pearls are either pretty solid or straight dog
etc

[rough galleon]

In all honesty
Its better to not even see them has rarity as its misleading

Pearls are the hardest to obtain rarity (before ffs) as its mostly exclusive to tubbies

Bekah, Sawbar, Butcher, i feel like theres one more im missing
Theres definitely pearls that outstand the rest

[tawdry shell]

storm

[wary sigil]

\I get that. in BL3, one of mz best guns is the blue rifle zou get from tipping Moxxie

[rough galleon]

Fair

I usually just blazed through the enemies so i paid them no mind

[rough galleon]

I wish man
I wish

[tawdry shell]

anyways in terms of like rarity ranking it’s kinda jumbled now?

i think the rainbow one goes at the top now

[rough galleon]

And not just this game

Heck, a lot of non uniques in every game can compare to uniques or better

[wary sigil]

Rainbow is effer right?

[rough galleon]

Yeah

[tawdry shell]

but before i think it would be like, seraph cause of raid uniqueness, then legendary, then pearl

pearls are only at the top cause previously they were primarily shiny trophy items

[wary sigil]

darn I keep getting bones and skins, no hearts

[tawdry shell]

bl1 most of them were actually pretty good, but it was more just a way to show “look guys i killed crawmerax !1!1!1”

[rough galleon]

Even tho Cobra and Perfect Hide are the rarest items in bl2

[tawdry shell]

which i didn’t mind honestly, makes craw killing fun

and getting lucky from lance chest if funni

[wary sigil]

and now a blood

whz does the loot gods hate me

[rough galleon]

Bones are usually what people sought for
Argubly one of the best relics in the game since elemental impact dmg ups are rare

So its funny you say "darn" like its a bad thing

[wary sigil]

I think its the scientific rule that "Whatever ye search for, the Loot gGods shall never bestow upon thee"

[rough galleon]

Thats pretty much rpg/gacha logic yeah

[wary sigil]

Mz whole thing is i dont ever use elemetnal

I literallz only use jakobs

[tawdry shell]

that’s a HUGE damage loss fyi

[wary sigil]

my rifle is jakobs

[rough galleon]

And thats a whole other problem itself

[tawdry shell]

jakobs is good but like

[wary sigil]

my other rifle is jakobs

my pistol is jakobs

my shotgun is jakobs

[tawdry shell]

axton doesn’t specialize with jakobs really

best use for jakobs would be like zero or sal

[wary sigil]

my launcher is jakobs tourge

[rough galleon]

The only jakobs i think that can take the elemental dual would be like...Bekah and maybe Hawkeye?

[tawdry shell]

even then just never using elemental is a big part of why you are struggling

[wary sigil]

I just like jakobs

Even in BL3, my favourite weapon is the Maggie

[tawdry shell]

i get that but like
you aren’t gonna have a good time only using them

the maggie is good in this game too but still

anyways i got homework imma dip

[wary sigil]

Think of it as a challenge then

[rough galleon]

just keep it in mind
gun dmg ups arent as strong as elemental dmg ups when other bonuses are involved

[wary sigil]

Listen

[rough galleon]

also why a lot of people avocate against Bee

[wary sigil]

There is nothing you can say or do to make me use anything but Jakobs

Plus the owner is gay and I like that

[rough galleon]

I mean, idc to be blunt, just saying its better dmg

[wary sigil]

I am supporting a gay owned business

Are you going to be homophobic and say I SHOULDNT support a gay owned business?

[rough galleon]

you can do a full bandit run for all you want

[rough galleon]

I dont care that you want to use Jakobs only

Im just saying what actually gets you high dmg in this game and elements + crits is that.

I'm not homophobic.

[wary sigil]

I was joking

[rough galleon]

yeah, even as a joke, some people may take it seriously so I rather not go on that tightwire

[wary sigil]

I call everzone homophobic lol. I call myself that

[wary sigil]

fair

ANOTHER BONE

that is 2 corrosive bones

Wait, isnt it suppoed to increase second wind health too?

[rough galleon]

mayhaps needs a certain level to get that but yeah, its supposed to

[wary sigil]

and/or

I wish LootLemon said that

[rough galleon]

unfort

[tawdry shell]

i AM, cancel wokelands 4!

[rough galleon]

oofy

[tawdry shell]

(jk im extremely gay)

[tawdry shell]

i remember seeing some call the game wokelands in like a reddit thread or something

[wary sigil]

This is from Woke Content Detectors Curated List of Games

[tawdry shell]

the accounts on steam that take the time to do this stuff is insane

i’ve seen multiple different accounts do that type of thing

[wary sigil]

Guess how manz games they reviewed?

[tawdry shell]

im gonna guess at least like 300

[wary sigil]

1691

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AVTZPJij5PQmlWAkYdDahBrxDiwqWMGsWEcEnpdKTa4/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0

[tawdry shell]

A WHOLE GOOGLE DOC

BRUH

[wary sigil]

technically its 1689

[wary sigil]

read through it

ESPECIALLZ cyberpunks

[peak ether]

How childish and immature do you have to be to make smth like this

Also

Bl1 should go on that list too

[tawdry shell]

bloons td6 at the very top 💔

[peak ether]

Mr Shank is gay

[wary sigil]

Someone even made a game to make fun of it where you are given the game name and have to guess

https://ioi-xd.net/files/wokeornot.html

[tawdry shell]

that game is goatedj

[wary sigil]

it is

BL ENHANCED

It is informational for only being "subtle pro-lgbtq+ messaging

[tawdry shell]

i don’t think i can search on mobile, is halo on there?

[peak ether]

Shouldn't be

[tawdry shell]

it WOULD if 343 would man up and make arbiter x chief cannon

[wary sigil]

onlz one on here

[tawdry shell]

smh my head

[wary sigil]

"Multiple DEI themes emblems"

[tawdry shell]

oh my god

[wary sigil]

to them DEI just means a black person or woman exists

[peak ether]

That's it

I'm willingly letting myself get sacrificed to the Singing Machine

[wary sigil]

guzs

flight sim is woke

I cant believe this

[rough galleon]

ayo?

[peak ether]

[peak ether]

How!?

[wary sigil]

Because the game isnt as discriminatorz as real life

[tawdry shell]

hold on i gotta check this on my laptop

[wary sigil]

Look at lines 1552 and 1553

[tawdry shell]

castle crashers is labeled as having subtle content lmao

apprently becqause the behemtoh said the gender of the knights is determined by the player

[peak ether]

I just can't with people like this

[tawdry shell]

you think they'd throw it on there cause the pink knight

[wary sigil]

Oh shoot, Spiro is woke too

[peak ether]

Len'en reference

[wary sigil]

I cant belive they made the lovable purple dragon "woke"

[tawdry shell]

oh wow gears of war doesn't even seem to be on here

[wary sigil]

This is the funniest thing to me

[tawdry shell]

to think they could've put the amount of time they have in this doc into an actual hobby instead

[wary sigil]

I follow them on STeam, when a game is not recommended thats how I know its for ,e

[tawdry shell]

damn risk of rain isn't on there either

[wary sigil]

Thank god Little Kitty, Big City isnt woke

[tawdry shell]

they kept track of the splash text updates for minecraft

actually insane

[wary sigil]

This was one of my favourite receent games, its a short visual novel about a trans woman, called "One Night, Hot SPring"

[peak ether]

Reminds me of the Obey the Fist guy

Fucking guy goes on a warpath on literally every indie game

[wary sigil]

"heavy social commentary" makes sense they dont like that they are too immature for it

wtf

Spider Man 2 has "Overtly Pro-Abortion Messaging"?

[peak ether]

"it isn't a 200 hour+ grand scale hyper advanced graphics like GTA5 game is a piece of shit don't play"

[wary sigil]

Does someone text him "Yo spidey, just got back from my lunchtime abortion hru"

[peak ether]

Like stfu

[wary sigil]

oh shoot a mod. i am scared

[bronze haven]

gears 5 is
the only other gears of war title on steam is gears tactics

[wary sigil]

HI mod. This originated from BL2 so it is technically linked to being on topic

[bronze haven]

it is a steam list after all

[wary sigil]

We were talking about how BL2 is woke

[tawdry shell]

oh yeah

that reminds me i need to get the only other gears of war pc game at some point

[peak ether]

Can I not die Underdome round 5 this time

[tawdry shell]

gow 1 had a physical pc release for some reason

i think it has mod support which is neat

[peak ether]

Oh hey not ass modifiers

[wary sigil]

"I deserve a happy ending" woke content detector declined your request

[peak ether]

(I got spastic + head shots only on hoard wave last time)

[wary sigil]

.....?

[peak ether]

Again

[wary sigil]

wut

[peak ether]

Mr Shank is gay

[wary sigil]

I thought it was informational

[peak ether]

Guy didn't even play that far to know

Check if Library of Ruina is on that list

I wanna know

[bronze haven]

personally my favorite entry on the list is bayonetta

[rough galleon]

Angela 😮

[peak ether]

Fucking Bayonetta

[bronze haven]

this really says a lot about society

[peak ether]

"Subtly anti capitalism messages"

Bro a company traps people in 2000+ long train rides for profit in that game

That is no subtle at all

[wary sigil]

I feel like atleast one of the doom has to have SOME woke content

[tawdry shell]

doom eternal has a pink unicorn skin with rainbows i think, im assuming they would count that somehow

[wary sigil]

Oh shoot yea

[clear halo]

Is balanced by mortally challenged joke

[wary sigil]

but is it woke rainbow or gods rainbow?

How tf is something called "Gender Bender" ONLY informational that is the wokest shit I have ever heard

[shadow coral]

I remember the crybaby guy who said pronouns ruined Starfield.
He had a bunch of transformer figures in the background that are known to be gay with eachother in the comics.

[wary sigil]

I am suprised none of the bl games are considered anti capitalist because half te time you are directly attacking one of the corporations, almost everz game is a corporatocracy

oh I got super distracted from the grind

[peak ether]

I need to check out of this before I lose my mind

[wary sigil]

lol

[clear halo]

I mean you also cooperate with them tho

Lol

[wary sigil]

I guess

[clear halo]

Didn’t thought this one through i guess

[wary sigil]

Didn't thought 💔

[clear halo]

Bruh

[wary sigil]

You nonsesquipedalian

[clear halo]

English

[wary sigil]

It is

[candid crescent]

can confirm

[wary sigil]

Du sprichst Englisch, wiel es ist die einzige Sprache du sprichst. Ich spreche Englisch, wiel es ist die einzige Sprache du sprichsts. Wir sind nicht Gliech.

[clear halo]

I hate english you german

[wary sigil]

I ain't German

[clear halo]

Rip

[ebon vault]

how's my weapon set up so far?

[wide fog]

i mean you’re playing enhanced sadly all you need is the silent night

weapon is busted as fuck

[peak ether]

Most of those are good

I'd ditch the Violence at the first opportunity

[ebon vault]

I know the AR isn't grfeat lol

[peak ether]

What

?????

Havocs are amazing

And that's a body 5 barrel 5 one

That alone will carry you pretty far

[ebon vault]

oh ok

I've had it forever XD

its my boss killer

[peak ether]

Fuck you too game

This has a very real chance to be a Twisted SMG too

As an added fuck you

[ebon vault]

so what should I replace the revolver with?

[peak ether]

Masher ideally

Or a different element one

[ebon vault]

what's masher?

[peak ether]

The funny

Revolver with x7 pellets

They in fact go hard

[ebon vault]

oh lol

[peak ether]

Oh and 3/5 legendary revolvers can spawn as one

So you can either have one with 200% crit or one that passively regens ammo

Or one with buffed dmg and accuracy

[ebon vault]

lol sick

[ebon vault]

is this a good class COM?

I've had it since I was level 19

currently level 40

[tawdry shell]

rifleman seems pretty solid but like

i don’t think there’s really any reason to use it over a heavy gunner?

assault itself is :/

it’d not bad but the boosts don’t really add much imo

[ebon vault]

I haven't really found a good heavy gunner tbh

this thing makes my AR shred tanks

err

high health enemies

[tawdry shell]

i don’t think i’ve really used any class mods on roman’s besides heavy gunner and shock trooper

at least not regularly anyways

[leaden stag]

Roman

[ebon vault]

what should I look for in a class mod exactly as a soldier?

and who is Roman?

[tawdry shell]

whatever you think will help you out i guess

the only class mod i know is like straight up bad is support gunner

[peak ether]

Good skills and passives

Most class mods are good

The only downright terrible ones are

Roland's Leader com

Support Gunner is pretty bad

What else goes on the chopping block

[ebon vault]

Tactician is really bad

[peak ether]

Brick's Bombardier and Mordecai's Scavenger

[peak ether]

No

[ebon vault]

Tactician isn't bad?

[peak ether]

Tactician is amazing

[ebon vault]

O_o

[peak ether]

Slap on a Pangolin or high capacity Torgue shield and become nigh unkillable

[ebon vault]

oh shit, nice lol

[peak ether]

Loads of great options for Roland

But you won't see people use 'em because they always run the same two all the time

One of those two not even being good

[wheat harbor]

peace keeper boosting trespass

[peak ether]

Why does it do that

[wheat harbor]

ig you can save yourself 4 points?

[peak ether]

But you miss out on 9% more bullet dmg

I completely forget what else that com had

[wheat harbor]

com doesnt look great

mmm yes shield stats when you have nothing else to go with it

half assed shield

[peak ether]

RR boost is okay I guess?

OFB is not needed

And the passives are just

There

One of them making your shield worse

It goes on the shit list too

I find it funny

The only 2 bad loyalty coms are the shield ones

Because as it turns out

A 61% weapon dmg buff is huge

Who dun think

Yeah that's only 6 coms I would single out as bad

2 for each VH that isn't Lilith

I'll need to check the Marine tho

Yeah Marine is fine too

Grenadier boost alone makes it good

Fire rate passive too

And Overload

Smth that helps launchers a lot

So it's functionally a side graded Shock Trooper

Trades the Shock dmg boost for more spamable rockets

[tawdry shell]

so good for the instance you don’t have a shock launcher basically yea

that’s a knoxx com isn’t it

[peak ether]

Yes

Drops from badass devastators

[ebon vault]

so for my skill tree, should I go the shotgun skill or metal storm?

[peak ether]

Flip a coin

[tawdry shell]

i always rush metal storm in my playthroughs

[peak ether]

Both are among Roland's best skills

[tawdry shell]

first skill i gravite towards

i just really like fast fire rate :p

[peak ether]

I tend to prefer going down right tree first

Stat + Aid Station goated

"guys Roland sucks"

Smh my head

[ebon vault]

Roland absolutely does not suck

I honestly think Brick is the weakest of the group

[rough galleon]

Its a common trend:
"X character sucks" becoming one of the most flexible characters in their respected game and rather tanky

Roland, Axton, Wilhelm lol

Tho the Axton hate died off over the years
Now people are hating on Gaige

[leaden stag]

salvador hate is the real wave

[rough galleon]

Wdym wave?

I dont see as much people hate on Salv as on Gaige

Even in this discord, theres only been a few who just say they dont like playing Salv like me

[ebon vault]

I've heard Salv is boring, but not bad

@peak ether I found a good tactician COM btw and am trying it out. I like how tanky it has made me 😄

[peak ether]

Nope

Highest damage ceiling in the game

[verbal lava]

How could that be the case? Does payback stack with use of the cracked sash or something

[peak ether]

Formula

Also

50% bullet dmg from Revenge

Another like 40% from Payback

Blast Master 61% explosive as a fresh mult

42% weapon dmg from your proficiencies as yet another mult

Uh what else

Fire rate from Master Blaster

Gearbox why did you cook this hard with Brick's kit

[rough galleon]

Big strong man is strong : ^)

[peak ether]

People saying Brick sucks is even funnier to me

Because I can mathematically prove them wrong with evidence

[rough galleon]

Using math on people who cant read is a dummy whammy

I meant double but dummy works for the context

[peak ether]

"but but Lilith dmg "

[verbal lava]

Need another write up

[peak ether]

second lowest dps in the game

Only beats Roland's

[rough galleon]

Therefore roland bad
Checkmate White Night

[peak ether]

I go from defending Roland to tearing him down

[rough galleon]

Me on a regular basis when it comes to bl2

[verbal lava]

Still got this one, I forget where I found it
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E938aQNW6ufy66uQiCzIDG8s4BNPV7Q83RUaBaZxxUM/edit?tab=t.0

[peak ether]

"Have I chosen you twelve? and yet one of you is a devil!"

[rough galleon]

"This character is actually good at yada"
"Bl2 is shit"

Is probs majority of my convos

[peak ether]

Hey!

[verbal lava]

Hello

[rough galleon]

Ameko secret sauce

[peak ether]

Where did you find that

[verbal lava]

I just said I don’t know

[leaden stag]

bro got sauced

[verbal lava]

Just fucking appeared in my bookmarks, Funko didn’t even know where it was from either, so I am real confused

[rough galleon]

Thats kinda funny how even the writer doesnt know how it was published

It was all a fever dream

[peak ether]

God the formatting is so shit

How did I type this

[verbal lava]

This is still the best thing I’ve seen about the game so far

[peak ether]

I started remaking them

With easier to read formatting

[leaden stag]

peeping time

[peak ether]

But on how insane Bricks dmg is

[leaden stag]

ok yeah this aint the cutest formating

wall of text

[verbal lava]

I must have a link
I just used this one to figure out what to chuck away after doing my armoury runs

[peak ether]

The formula is like this
(Revenge + Payback I think) * (Blast Master) * (Weapon Proficiency + Warmonger/Ogre)

Could've gotten the formatting wrong

Loyalty coms go in with Warmonger

@wheat harbor what does Payback boost again

Bullet, Grenade, Melee, Rocket?

[wheat harbor]

all damage source modifiers

uhh probably not skill

i cant look it up now sorry

[wheat harbor]

at least those 4 yea

[peak ether]

That's the important part

Wanted to make sure it was bullet and not weapon

So to plug in numbers

(90% + 40%) * (61%) * (42%) if Blast Master

(90% + 64%) * (42% + 32%) if Warmonger

Now let's see Lilith's

Actually that involves crit

I still don't understand crit buffs

Ah well let's do it anyway

(High Velocity + Enforcer) * (element coms) * (Mercenary com +profs)

I don't know how crits fit into this

[wheat harbor]

i still find it funny that 1 has better formula diversity than 2

[peak ether]

It does?

[peak ether]

(20% + 10%) * (61%) * (42%) if elemental com

(36% + 10%) * (42% + 61%) if Mercenary

Wow

Mercenary is less dmg than elemental coms

No wait it boosts High Velocity

Fixed

Would you say these formulas are worth putting in the guides zeta?

I think I scared the new guy off

[peak ether]

It must be because of the gun/bullet dmg split

Bl2 just absorbed everything bullet dmg into gun

Then started using the words interchangeably

Vs Bl1 where it's a very important distinction

Roland's formula should look like this
(Impact) * (Shock Trooper) * (Weapon Proficiency + Scattershot + Commando/Rifleman/Heavy Gunner)

This explains why Shock Trooper is so busted

All of Roland's dmg is weapon

Which in turn means that it's boosting rockets

Which also means Grenadier gets to say hi

Which just so happens to be boosted by the Shock Trooper

[wheat harbor]

yeah thats what i was referring to

[peak ether]

I feel so vindicated the this fuck ass build Ravi and I made years ago had actual reasoning behind it

Mordecai's is prolly on the opposite end of the spectrum

Heavy bullet dmg

No actually

It's actually quite even

(Trespass + Relentless) * (Assassin) * (Prof + Caliber + Killer)

This looks smaller than it actually is because Deadly is a 75% post add crit

Also Mordy's only weapon dmg coms are the loyalties

Fuck this bumps Caliber's value quite a bit

Oh wait no it doesn't

Got mixed up there a second

[wary sigil]

FINALLY

[leaden stag]

farming terra with non elemental is crazy work

[tawdry shell]

if you were both level 50 this would feel like a terra kill straight from 2012

[leaden stag]

Using shock nades insted of slag betties is triggering me

[tawdry shell]

or even a fire one at the very least lol

[leaden stag]

bro was ready for the fire phase

[wary sigil]

Nice. Finallz got that

[tepid sinew]

W

[sinful sundial]

Yeah but back then CC Bee existed making the fight a complete joke

[modest forum]

I am looking for a Combat Rife that will work wit my Comando. Anybody got any suggestions? I am having trouble with Lynchwood. Their Skag Riders keep killing me.

[rough galleon]

Anything corrosive lol

iirc the riders has armored skags no?

[modest forum]

Yes they have armor.

Unfortunately.

[rough galleon]

And if you are having a problem living
How about dropping the Bee for an adaptive/turtle shield
I can promise you, itll be more defensive

[modest forum]

They also one shot my Saber turrets. (Btw I am at OP10.)

[rough galleon]

I mean
Yeah

Thats why you use mag lock for the turrets to be out of reach

[modest forum]

Ture.

I will use this when fighting those Skag riders.

[rough galleon]

Theres plenty of good rifles tho
Coming to mind rn is like Hail, Kitten, Bekah, Vladof rifles with a vladof barrel

[modest forum]

I keep it around just in case.

[rough galleon]

Outside of Bekah, all of those can be corrosive

[modest forum]

Wich one can be farm and from who?

[rough galleon]

First two are side quests
Bekah is from tubbies
Last is world drops

Veruc is another option from Gettle

[rough galleon]

#borderlands-2 message

More suggestions can be found from the character guide

[modest forum]

Ok thanks.

[clear halo]

Based drop rates

@scenic briar

[scenic briar]

Wow that completely skewed how I viewed dlc grinder rates

[peak ether]

0.43

[clear halo]

Dun worry is just a raid Boss

[scenic briar]

Now I'm never gonna see any of them, as 2k australia intended

[clear halo]

Easy stuff

[peak ether]

Let me bring out my mongol

[clear halo]

[peak ether]

And laser disker

Ad one phase him

[clear halo]

Dude
Is still 500 EOS kills
Even if i One shotted it it would be too lomg

[scenic briar]

My claptrap run has been insanely cursed though, grinded flakkers into a fatale, and the second I felt like I needed to upgrade it, I found a fatale in a vendor, 100,000 more money than I had

[clear halo]

What is best Mongol?

Electric?

[scenic briar]

Does mongol still mostly deal non-elemental in tps?

[clear halo]

Has all elements apparently

[scenic briar]

Sorry, that was worded wrong- do the secondary rockets still deal explosive in tps like they do in 2?

[peak ether]

No element/explosive

[scenic briar]

If so, then you'd probably want explosive on that too just for the slight base damage increase

[clear halo]

Ah the basic mongol

Oke

[peak ether]

Yes

[clear halo]

@peak ether is that because of Nisha Tombstone?

Or is just a cracked Weapon?

[peak ether]

Yes

[clear halo]

Nuce

[clear halo]

Doing a Nisha run rn

@peak ether Is her class mod for Tombstone a DLC only one?

[peak ether]

https://youtu.be/OcL-uh45Vns?si=-CPhgiblulfCwJZo

[scenic briar]

blue/purple crapshooter is base game, but the legendary com that has it is from holodome

[peak ether]

No

[clear halo]

Okay i will try to. Get one

[clear halo]

8 1000% damage bonuses

Seems balanced

[rough galleon]

honestly
i think its more Load N explode than One Last Thing

Salvs money shot is stronger but didnt get 100% more explosive dmg LOL

[scenic briar]

The goofiest thing one last thing does is give the wrong flakker shot the bonus

[rough galleon]

wdym wrong?

[scenic briar]

With flakker (at least outside of mechromaghician), I believe it gives the second to last shot the bonus

I can test it again right now

[rough galleon]

doesnt flakker consume more than one shot?

yeah it consumes 4 shots per fire

[scenic briar]

Yeah, four, but the shot before you have less than four ammo gets the damage bonus while the final shot gets the confetti effect

At least I swore it did

[rough galleon]

One last Thing interaction with Area Damage Weapons:
Only the Area Damage of you next to last shot gains the increased damage.

ok its area damage

[scenic briar]

Oh I didn't notice it was anything other than the flakker

Some claptrap player, huh?

[rough galleon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

area dmg isnt really a thing until bl3 tho
so i guess lootlemon is using that word to make it easier for the viewer to understand like "Splash"

[scenic briar]

Area damage is what they call it in wonderlands I believe

[rough galleon]

the actual terminology for bl2 and tps is damage radius

[rough galleon]

its a thing in bl3
look at Moze lol

[scenic briar]

I know some bl3 skills and class mod passives call it splash damage, and artifacts call it area of effect damage

[clear halo]

Load N explode?

The perk that guves extra explosive damage?

[rough galleon]

yes

its absurd how much explosive dmg it gives when fully stacked

https://www.lootlemon.com/skill/load-n-splode-claptrap#google_vignette

100% with 5 stacks at only 5/5

nothing in the other borderlands games prior to bl3 gave this much elemental dmg on one skill

[clear halo]

Ah it has stack?

[clear halo]

Oh yes

[lofty flame]

Couple with the fact claptrap gets an absurd amount of reload speed

[rough galleon]

we stan for tps skills

[lofty flame]

Its really funny to think that claptrap might be at his strongest when he's down

[scenic briar]

This is literally how I play him

[rough galleon]

i love that fact

[scenic briar]

throwing for dps

[rough galleon]

not throwing if you win in the end

[lofty flame]

Blue Shell and Living Near the Edge by beloved

[scenic briar]

It also lets me use the cheat code, which is goofy with like an effective 20 fire rate

[peak ether]

It took me way too long to realize Blue Shell was a Mario Kart reference

[rough galleon]

no mushroom 😦

[tawdry shell]

tupid

[tawdry shell]

@scenic briar this is what i mean

[lofty flame]

Why is it so green

[scenic briar]

Yoo Ice Car

[tawdry shell]

this map was actually park of like a mini map collection

loading the map itself took you to a hub area and then it had 4 more maps included

if you scroll up the one above was just hella orange

[lofty flame]

[tawdry shell]

it also had like 20 midgets that were like level 100 and dropped a bunch of pearls?

below that was some weird cave map that had a billion lance

definitely one of the most unique borderlands experiences i’ve had to say the least

[lofty flame]

Definitely unique if nothing else

[tawdry shell]

unironically some of my favorite maps from the collection overall tho

i had no clue what to expect so it was a lot of fun

[tawdry shell]

that was an enemy that never spawned sadly

it was form a different map called ‘forum wars’ i believe

it was just a big room with where of enemies, but every once in a while a mini boss would spawn and it’d be a custom enemy named after someone from gearbox forums

custom gear for all of them too lol

[lofty flame]

That sounds awesome

[tawdry shell]

this was another one if the more memorable maps

i think i’ve talked about it before but it was just so cool

climbing the mountain alone took like half an hour, definitely the biggest map i’ve ever seen

[scenic briar]

The knoxx dlc if randy locked in

[tawdry shell]

there was also 2 random spots in the desert, one with an absolutely insane amount of lance drones for some reason? and the other with a bunch of small badass fire skags that were super speed

[tawdry shell]

funny thing is neither knoxx nor a big lance dude ever spawned in the castle for some reason

[wary sigil]

This is all I see whenever I travel here in the Hammerlock DLC

(I suck at GIMP)

[wheat harbor]

[wide fog]

that might be peak

[wary sigil]

This is the liberal agenda lol

Gotta go through the Abortion Station

Thia is genuinely how I read it every time

[wheat harbor]

@tall surge can we send u here

boibortion station

[tall surge]

yes!!!!

whatt is the map even called

i haventt played bl2 in
forever

[wary sigil]

Abdorton Station

[wheat harbor]

adortipn station

[wary sigil]

Ardoton*

[wheat harbor]

smh my head

[tall surge]

smh doesnt mean itst bl2....

[wary sigil]

I mean they didn't say BL2

[wheat harbor]

erm

[wary sigil]

Technically that is Borderlands the first

Because no number was specified

[wary sigil]

Cute pfp lol. I like the fish with the button eye

Which now that I think may just be a stuffed animal lol, not an actual animal

Makes me think of Coraline

[tall surge]

it do be a stuffed animal

[wary sigil]

Nice 👍

[wheat harbor]

its fitting

[wary sigil]

What's that mean?

[verbal lava]

Their profile has “watch girls last tour” and they are Brazilian
It’s a pretty good guess

[wheat harbor]

methinks rapple is cute too

[opal ingot]

*ardorton

[clear halo]

Is so sad they never made one of those massive US interstate intersections as a dungeon

[blazing kiln]

@rough galleon Here it is, tinkered for max survivability with what I had, good enough?

[rough galleon]

Bottom left skill for longer BxR duration will kill you
Friendly fire will kill you
Max Bloodbath
Light the Fuse I can see value as you are pressumingly using it for movement speed and getting out of bad situations mostly right?

AR increase dmg when down is pointless in LtF

Are you a melee build? Dont be for Vora or for any raid bosses lol

What lvl are you again?

[blazing kiln]

38 now

[rough galleon]

Also none of these are for survivability except Feed the Meat lol (and damage reduction if using BxR)

[rough galleon]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/krieg#_550005000510_005501100000_00000000000

[blazing kiln]

Gonna try it but I don't see how most of these are useful since they're kill skills

[rough galleon]

Kill the minions

And its just one
Blood Bath

[rough galleon]

Little midgets spawns during Vora's fight you can get kill skills off of

Otherwise if you really insist on being melee
I would suggest going a more support melee build with Redeem the Soul

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/krieg#_052000000000_505001151251_00000000000

[blazing kiln]

It never seems like there's enough of them, maybe it's because we're a team and not solo

[swift forge]

can you bloodsplode him

[rough galleon]

Theres like 3-5 spawning frequently
Probs your Zer0 or Gaige kills them before you do which doesnt really help the Gaige but if Zer0 has Killer, it helps him

[rough galleon]

You can

Vora is one of the few fights that can be bloodsploded without much issues
But i assume they want to fight Vora properly and not with exploits

[rough galleon]

This would make you quite tanky and deal good melee dmg

And if necessary, instant revive anyone for your life

Not a bad play if you have Light the Fuse as you can jump on someones head, have them carry you away and revive you whenever

If you want to go Hellborn early
You can do this build too

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/krieg#_000000000000_005200000000_51505151021

[blazing kiln]

FIRST TRY WIN! This is similar to what I had on my first Krieg but the points are distributed better. I didn't use half of the abilities tbh cause I tanked it hard

[rough galleon]

Did you clear?

And Redeem the Soul and Light the Fuse are very niche skills
You can put it into Salt the Wound for more dmg on Melee Krieg

Just i find them useful for melee Krieg in co op

[limpid rivet]

yes, very consistently imo

[wary sigil]

...?

what are you correcting...?

[opal ingot]

this

[wary sigil]

Do yall know how to discover this area in Abortion Station (BL2, HAMMERLOCK DLC)?

[scenic briar]

Maybe my luck is normally horrible, but I've never gotten a volcano above 1084 damage before this one. Not max damage (according to lootlemon) but still interesting

[tawdry shell]

yeah the gift shop will do that lol

[scenic briar]

Actually I think it IS perfect, just not max level.

Years ago the gift shop dropped me a max theoretical dps hellfire, but most everything else I get, whether from gift shop or knoxx dlc, is well below the best

[peak ether]

That's actually pretty close to max dmg parts

But I prefer body 1 over 4 for it

Less dmg but faster follow up shots

[strange grail]

First try wild

[limpid rivet]

Now do it again with OP levels

[ionic wadi]

getting a toothpick from regular sand worm is pain.

[leaden stag]

couple resets if unlucky yeah

[ionic wadi]

i just got boosted first time lol weird how fast it works made me laugh

[clear halo]

Yeah just Read only farm the 2 Sandworm queens

From the Vaughn quest

[rough galleon]

@compact yoke looks like this

[strange grail]

It must get rarer

[rough galleon]

Testing: Melee DMG variance between Zer0, Maya, Gaige
Will be done on OP0, no skill points or BAR, no gear, on a Crystalisk

7052k on both Maya and Zer0 so far @topaz pasture

ok that is very weird, 705k

[ashen marlin]

Sad Gaige noises, the melee dream is dead /jk

[rough galleon]

Im genuinely surprised

[ashen marlin]

That doesn't happen often with this game

Here's where we find out Krieg actually has the lowest base melee damage

[rough galleon]

being surprised with how jank it is, not really
how low Gaige's melee dmg is, yeah

[ashen marlin]

Base melee means nothing when skills exist tbf

[rough galleon]

1466k

means a lot when the skills affects the base you know lol

the base is a starting line...

[ashen marlin]

Yeah, but if you don't have skills, your starting line is irrelevant

[tawdry shell]

is the melee different for all enemies or is it just the crystal dudes being weird

[ashen marlin]

Case in point, melee Gaige being better than melee Maya

Not that you'd run either on the highest difficulty

[rough galleon]

Crystalisk would take more melee dmg since it makes everything critical technically

[tawdry shell]

oh yeah

maybe do a melee crit on like a psycho or something?

[rough galleon]

melee crits doesnt happen normally (except Krieg) but I'll test in Sanct

[ashen marlin]

If only we could climb over the shooting range to smack the test guy

[rough galleon]

you can

well not over, around

[ashen marlin]

Ah

Out of bounds we go!

[tawdry shell]

can you not get a crit bonus from doing melee in majority of enemies crit spots?

[ashen marlin]

I've also thought that but maybe it's placebo?

[rough galleon]

no, it shows crit, doesn't give extra dmg

[tawdry shell]

ah gotcha

[topaz pasture]

It doesn't? When I was playing zer0 I could still cut off the limbs from the loaders when hitting crits but I never paid attention to the actual numbers.

[rough galleon]

the base difference is like 1:10

sure, if you get enough Upshot and 400 Anarchy, maybe it'll be better than Maya but I would have to run the math

honestly, it would be easier to just stream this

[ashen marlin]

So Gaige doesn't have the third highest melee damage anymore?

[rough galleon]

those interested, come to https://discord.com/channels/132671445376565248/561082417335631872

[rough galleon]

I'll still ss it but it would take a bit

[ashen marlin]

All good, this is all very interesting

I'll be killing in DbD in the meantime

[rough galleon]

btw this is on Krieg for example
733k body
1466k crit

still the same crit dmg as on a Crystalisk

This is Gaige
so apparently crit does apply for Gaige
body 352k
crit 705k

Zer0

ok Im delusional
numbers match with Gaige
352k body
705k crit

here's with a fire lady fist

apparently Ive never talked to Marcus with my op10 Maya, pretty funny

and this is Maya for good measure
352k Body
705k Crit

for some weird reason
Crystalisk got a dmg multiplier that Gaige and Krieg didn't get from what Ive tested

[opal ingot]

[topaz pasture]

Thank you for the extensive test!

[rough galleon]

testing done:
Zer0 and Maya Crystalisk 7052k crystal
Gaige Crystalisk 705k crystal
Krieg Crystalisk 1466k crystal

every character default melee except Krieg is 352k body 705k crit

[ashen marlin]

Crits do matter?

[rough galleon]

yeah

[ashen marlin]

Melee Gaige is back on the menu (as if she ever left, let's be real)

[topaz pasture]

except vs crystalisk

[ashen marlin]

Details, details

[rough galleon]

this is true, melee Gaige didnt fall off

[mighty token]

I think I can say I'm the biggest tales from the borderlands fan

(I also have one of the pax promo shirts!!!)

[rough galleon]

nice

[opaque garden]

true love can exist

[cobalt merlin]

Deputy sal would’ve been so happy

Sadly im doing krieg

[wheat harbor]

melee crit exists
pain is power lowers melee crit damage

[wheat harbor]

it does
melee crit is 2x

its just seperate to regular crit

[wheat harbor]

everyone but krieg has the same melee formula

krieg has a lower base but an additional 2% per level

[rough galleon]

Yeah i was doing those tests to find out
Would you happen to know why Gaige does less dmg to Crystalisk?

[wheat harbor]

how much less?

was that with with claws

[rough galleon]

No skills
Not even action skills

Control was no BAR, skills, gear, op0, just checking each of the 4 characters on a crystalisk and sanct. test dummy

[rough galleon]

testing done:
Zer0 and Maya Crystalisk 7052k crystal
Gaige Crystalisk 705k crystal
Krieg Crystalisk 1466k crystal

every character default melee except Krieg is 352k body 705k crit

Everyone else did much more dmg to crystalisk
Gaige is just base critting melee

[wheat harbor]

weird

dont see anything that should effect gaige differently

[rough galleon]

Yeah ive never heard of anything that affects crystalisks differently either than Slow Hand

But those were in game tests

[tranquil solar]

my infinity build that is very good (it sucks)

[lofty flame]

Par for the course when infinity

[rough galleon]

more so being under leveled and no element

[cunning sable]

That longbow in the side looking pretty pretty

[zealous phoenix]

LFG takedowns

[topaz pasture]

Is there a better mod than Commander for third person camera? I made an autohotkey script to switch back to first person when aiming down sights, but the moment I go down the game forces a first person camera again, so it ruins the idea.

[peak ether]

@rough galleon

[rough galleon]

yeah the build seems fine ngl

[rough galleon]

can go Incite over Quick Draw if your dmg isn't the issue

more reload speed and movement can help you defensively

[peak ether]

Amazing

[rough galleon]

Borderlands

[peak ether]

My builds fine it's my guns I don't like

[rough galleon]

are they on level?

[peak ether]

Yeah

[rough galleon]

oofy

can just do what I do

fuck gunzerking in the early game and go buck wild

[peak ether]

Like I said

Idfk how to sal

[rough galleon]

well you are playing how its supposed to be played

[peak ether]

I wanna grab two vladof snipers and go wild

[rough galleon]

fair enough

need to get Down Not Out then or hope you dont go down

[peak ether]

Nvm my shit is fine

I just fucking suck

[rough galleon]

itiswhatitis

when's the last time youve played BL2 before Salv?

[peak ether]

Uhhhhhhu

Idfk

[rough galleon]

eeksdee

[peak ether]

Look I just wanna shoot some guns okay?

[rough galleon]

heh

[ionic wadi]

who should I play as now zero or maya or axton?

[tawdry shell]

?bl2who

bruh

?bl2who

play zero i guess

[opal ingot]

lmao

[ionic wadi]

mb forgot to mention which game… but yeah okay zero it is..

[opal ingot]

?bl2who

[serene escarp]

You should play Gaige!

[opal ingot]

nope

[ionic wadi]

i just maxed out gaige

[rough galleon]

time to do it again
frank spoken

[cunning sable]

?bl2who

[serene escarp]

You should play Axton!

[cunning sable]

The Sliding Man is chosen

[rough galleon]

Axton the goat

[jolly tartan]

fr

[paper gulch]

oh my god

[unborn ivy]

I'm the conductor of the poop train.

?bl2who

[tawdry shell]

you gotta talk a lot to do commands

?bl2who

[serene escarp]

You should play Zer0!

[zinc gyro]

Oh god, where is it

[ashen marlin]

Looks like the underground pumping station in the Arid Nexus Boneyard

[opal ingot]

correct

[zinc gyro]

That's what i tought, welp, time to blow my friends mind with that knowledge XD

[leaden stag]

sidewinder shotty spotted, ratioed

[novel bane]

whut

[mossy coral]

Ok then

[tawdry shell]

neat thing miner of worlds just found
if you make the text on time cards smaller it reveals a 2nd red text for the eridian rifle

[jolly tartan]

yikes

I noticed that too

[peak ether]

@harsh creek not scoped like I thought but here it is

I don't use it often because my normal Ogre is better

Also this was my 4th one

[placid onyx]

„«𝙃𝙔𝙋𝙀𝙍𝙄𝙊𝙉» 𝙍𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙬𝙚𝙙“
𝘽𝙤𝙧𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙡𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙨 𝙞𝙣 𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙛𝙩 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩.

We accept builders into the team) these orbital beauties need to be furnished inside)
When we finish developing both of these maps, we'll release it to the public. You can support the builders on our Discord server to bring the release date of the cards closer. We are waiting for everyone! Everyone is welcome :DD

[lofty flame]

Drop fearless for ambush

[heady wing]

should i just copy the general sniping build?

[lofty flame]

Probably

[heady wing]

https://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505151555150055145015050510000

[lofty flame]

Though i would maybe recommend getting kunai first, then CA

[heady wing]

oka

[rough galleon]

80% vulnerability goes hard

[lofty flame]

Deathmark and Ambush are very important for damage

Also the odd slag here and there

[heady wing]

okay

how is this?