bl1-2-tps-media

[rough galleon]

Legendary is legit

Rare/Blue COMs can only have 2 skills and max skill points is +6 and +5 at lvl 50+ respectfully

[hybrid steppe]

Also 7 to restoration is crazy

[inland quiver]

so the blue one isn't legit

[hybrid steppe]

A plus 7 in general is crazy

[inland quiver]

thought so

[rough galleon]

Really only need the one point tbh

Rocket is a full heal on allies regardless

The rest of the skills has better uses/niches but restoration is kinda whatever

[leaden stag]

it technically lets krieg players on your squad take that idiot skill that lets you normally kill them

[rough galleon]

Yeah but that can be easily fixed by the krieg player not getting that skill lol

[leaden stag]

sort of, I generally have one point in it if I can spare it for the minority that forgets moxxi weapons exist

[rough galleon]

fair fair

i always have a point it in for multiplayer too

using slow hand heals both of us so thats a funny gimmick

[dusk ocean]

guys whats better this purple pistol or the blue with acidic?

@rough galleon what u think

[hybrid steppe]

I say keep the blue aim shot.. loaders are more common so having corrosion is a godsend plus it’s tediore so you can throw it for more damage aswell

[dusk ocean]

😭 wait, i just found a pistol with inifinite ammo

[hybrid steppe]

Got your first infinity? Niiice

[dusk ocean]

😭 THIS?! omg

how rare is this?

[tawdry shell]

10% from doc mercy but it can also be a world drop

[hybrid steppe]

Yep.. an element too? That’s rarer but not super rare.. Doc mercy just sucks as a farm

[dusk ocean]

i got it from the little things u punch

[tawdry shell]

varkid?

or like a skag pile

[dusk ocean]

skag pile yeah

[hybrid steppe]

WHAT?! That’s a keeper then

[dusk ocean]

i was so confused

[hybrid steppe]

Never got a world drop from any pile

Keep it for the fact you got it from a pile

[tawdry shell]

yeah most random loot sources can drop pretty much any item given it’s a world drop

skag piles, dumpsters, lockers, etc

usually hella rare tho

[hybrid steppe]

All the more reason to keep the hella rare infinity

[dusk ocean]

sucks that im only lv29

[hybrid steppe]

Still should keep it to say you got it from a pile

[tawdry shell]

infinity is easy to farm for the most part

[dusk ocean]

oh ok

[tawdry shell]

so tvhm, uvhm, you can easily get it again

[dusk ocean]

well i guess ill farm it later

[tawdry shell]

it probably shines best in the early game tho

[hybrid steppe]

Only ones I’ve seen are Joltz getting what.. an avenger from a spiderant pile.. and I think he got an invader when he was really trying to do the piles..

[tawdry shell]

doc mercy won’t be a higher level till tvhm

assuming you are still in normal

[dusk ocean]

yeah, i should be good to finish the story with this ngl

[rough galleon]

generally elements are better but also its a case by case scenario

[dusk ocean]

yeah no that was before i got infinity...

[peak ether]

Having an element is always better than none because that's another thing you can boost

[rough galleon]

The only case by case scenario i was thinking is that cuz its early game
NE guns arent written off completely

[peak ether]

Fair enough

[cunning sable]

or its a jakobs

they usually get around that with higher damage

[thorny thorn]

Any tips on how to get Bone of The Ancients if I have already completed "The Doctor's Orders" and "Space Cowboy" Quest and can offer more tangible advise than prayer?

[hybrid steppe]

If you got Lilith during the quest space cowboy in the Dahl abandon you can get a guaranteed loot midget out of the outhouse who can give the bones.. if not? Pray you get a loot midget somewhere

[thorny thorn]

Edited.

And I've been praying.

[hybrid steppe]

Well.. pray harder then idk?

[thorny thorn]

Edited.

🤭

[hybrid steppe]

Ah alright then.. I’m retarted

Just read the praying part

Naw don’t worry called myself it.. more or less it was a joke

[trim hinge]

lol

[thorny thorn]

I can't see my messages... >.>

Oh, wait I can see these.

[trim hinge]

they are being automoded

[thorny thorn]

Oh, I see.... Ah it all makes sense meow.

[thorny thorn]

I know. I just want to make sure you know that your not and I'm not thinking you are.

💕

[wheat harbor]

please dont say retarded
spelled incorrectly or not

[hybrid steppe]

:/ alright fine.. sorry i just kinda forgot to read the other part

I respect the rules

[tawdry shell]

surprised that's so easy to get around ngl

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah tbh.. I think I said it one other time and didn’t get anything for it so I sorta thought it was okay.. guess it makes sense as you obviously shouldn’t call people that..

[wheat harbor]

people come up with new versions all the time

i mean
we cant auto mod restarted

[tawdry shell]

fair

[heavy finch]

Almost done

[long solar]

Xbox light mode makes me want to die

[hybrid steppe]

Honestly same and I keep my brightness low and I still had to squint

But congrats I doubt I’ll get all the achievements since I basically have retired from the game

[long solar]

I have eye comfort on, on my phone so it doesnt hurt my eyes

[hybrid steppe]

I just keep dark mode on and my brightness low so that I can still see

[long solar]

Fair

[tawdry shell]

oh boy

[hybrid steppe]

Oh dear god is a fitting name for that

[tawdry shell]

this already feels wrong

[hybrid steppe]

Jesus got FOV 1,000?

[tawdry shell]

it's only at 120

i think thats the max no?

or is it 110

[hybrid steppe]

Sure feels like 1000 when I can see all of windshear

[tawdry shell]

combining this with FFYlands difficulty stuff

shit is basically a new game

[leaden stag]

Bro is playing ultrakill 2

[shadow coral]

I remember when BL1's "sprint" was just an fov increase. I think they actually made it faster with the xbox one/ps4 versions.

[tawdry shell]

bl1's sprint is definitely a speed increase what

it's not just upping the fov lol

[shadow coral]

It used to be just an fov increase.

[tawdry shell]

i mean was it a change super early on in the games life? i've been playing since 2011

never heard of anything like that

[shadow coral]

Maybe I'm misremembering things but I'm pretty sure I've heard of it a few times.

[dusk ocean]

this is my gear btw
@modern carbon @hybrid steppe

[hybrid steppe]

Not a bad setup

[modern carbon]

Might wanna pick up some more ammo SDUs but yeah you look solid

[dusk ocean]

whats SDU

[modern carbon]

The ammo upgrades you get from crazy earl in sanctuary

For eridium

[dusk ocean]

i wanna reset my skills tree aswell, should i try to go full point on cataclism for ruin?

[dusk ocean]

oh yeah i forgot...

[modern carbon]

I don't play maya so I'm not the best person to ask tbf, the guides in #borderlands-2 are great though for general tips about stuff like that.

[dusk ocean]

alr

[jolly tartan]

the build is alright

[hybrid steppe]

Also question why does all your gear have a purple outline around it??

[dusk ocean]

idk...

[dusk ocean]

😉 i got an infinity pistol awell

i feel more squishy tbh

[jolly tartan]

what shield u using

[dusk ocean]

"majestif fire spike shield" its lv.30

[jolly tartan]

i would reccomend a adaptive shield

[dusk ocean]

got it

[wraith token]

Is this worth it @rough galleon

[rough galleon]

sure

[wraith token]

It don’t really matter if it has a sight right?

[rough galleon]

not by much but Im not the greatest for advice on parts

all I care about is matching grip most of the time lol

[opal ingot]

it always has a sight

[steady kettle]

@real oracle

[real oracle]

ah it'll be fine

you have all 3 meaningful damage skills

[tawdry shell]

should’ve put all points into backdraft smh

i forget is there any mod for something like that yet

[steady kettle]

Melee Maya optimal…

Unlimited ranks?

[tawdry shell]

let you just invest as many points into a single skill as you want

[steady kettle]

Level 75 fleet

[tawdry shell]

exactly

[steady kettle]

Damn that’d be awesome actually

[tawdry shell]

i think it’d be kinda funny to see what you can try and make

[steady kettle]

My first thoughts would be fleet, suspension, health regen, reaper, and that fucking uhhhh what’s it the phaselock fire explosion

[tawdry shell]

helios is really bad but i guess with enough points it’ll eventually be strong

[steady kettle]

Maybe Helios is bad but level 75 Helios would be good

[rough galleon]

its alright

but yeah, you got all the core skills

Inertia helps too

[steady kettle]

That’s the skill under kinetic reflection right

[rough galleon]

Yeah
Kills = reload speed and shield regen

[steady kettle]

Oh dope

Sounds great with the bee shield

[rough galleon]

Any non roid shield but yeah

[heavy finch]

Finally

[leaden island]

This a good bee

[opal ingot]

no

[leaden island]

K

[leaden stag]

the only good bee is a dead bee

[hybrid steppe]

Bandit anshin.. -4 grade to special which is the amp damage

[leaden stag]

q

[jolly tartan]

bl2.parts is a good site which can help u with if its good or nnot

[paper gulch]

is this a good skilltree for zer0?

im level 41, i know melee cant carry me into uhvm but i feel like its alright so far

[hybrid steppe]

You really didn’t max out any besides ONE of them? I guess if you wanted to just spread it out but that’s basically what I did when I was a kid and first did it

[paper gulch]

i mean which ones should i max out

[hybrid steppe]

Eh unfortunately I’m not a Zer0 player not the guy to ask I was just sorta taken aback by only one max skill of 5 being maxed out

[paper gulch]

ill probably max more out when i get further along in the cunning tre

eventually when i hit uhvm im gonna basically spec all my points i got from bloodshed and put them into snipint

[tawdry shell]

form the looks of it no

also melee works perfectly fine in uvhm

[paper gulch]

i was told otherwise

[tawdry shell]

the only issue i can see with melee is bosses and maybe like op levels

besides that melee works perfectly fine for regular fights

i would look into the build docs in the pinned section of the bl2 chat

[rough galleon]

not an issue for op lvls if you still do everything youre supposed to for melee

melee scales to op lvls too
just the dr makes it less noticable

[rough galleon]

generally Zer0 focus Cunning first every build since Death Mark + Death Bl0ss0m is just too good to pass up and synergizes with every build

[peak ether]

@quiet ermine the difference scopes make

Left was with a scope right without

You always want one

[drifting agate]

what gun is that

[tawdry shell]

random smg i imagine

[wheat harbor]

mfw adsing completely cancels out the accuracy pool giving stupid good accuracy

[drifting agate]

the right reticle seems to have really bad accuracy, are those really smg or were they firing it while taking a picture

tho I guess it's zoomed in, even more relatively to the left

[peak ether]

Two Stingers one Torgue the other Dahl

The one on the left was a Torgue with a scope the right one the Dahl w/o one

[drifting agate]

did you fire the right one while ads or nah

[peak ether]

Yes

Both were adsing

[drifting agate]

thank goodness I never use dahl I guess

[hybrid steppe]

Only good Dahl sight is snipers.. Low zoom is nice

[peak ether]

This is Bl1

[hybrid steppe]

Oof shit.. pretend I never said that

Actually yeah I should of recognized that quality

[peak ether]

I can't screenshot a 360 game

Hence the ass pictures

[hybrid steppe]

That’s about the quality I had when I was doing shit videos on YT when I was like 10..

[peak ether]

God I really wish I had a pc

[hybrid steppe]

Tell me about it I wish my PC wasn’t literally stuck in the dark ages and took a lifetime to load even one tab

[peak ether]

At least Mad Mel is dead

I hate Mad Mel

[tawdry shell]

holy shit

is that the hybrid

[graceful axle]

That is correct

[hybrid steppe]

Joltz is crying from the amount of Craw farms he did to not get it

[peak ether]

Nemvader drop

Holy shit

[graceful axle]

Yeah it's safe to say I lost my shit

[hybrid steppe]

I lost my shit from my first real world drop from a normal enemy.. a sham from a bullymong while trying to get a perfect Harold

[peak ether]

Damn okay

Old Haven is fucked

[tawdry shell]

[small dirge]

found this thing in the presequal

if i touch that purple rock it teleports me somewhere with lots of enemies

what is it

it looks simmilar to the monolith from 2000s a space odessey

heres a closer photo

it has moving textures

of swirls all over it

heres how it looks during telepoortation

eventually putting me in a room with Marcus's descendants on the wall? and a red chest?

[opal ingot]

yes it is the space odyssey easter egg

[small dirge]

ah i didnt realise

this is my first playthrough

[vague spoke]

https://youtu.be/p6SebiotD38?si=1p0XTomK4WdF4bKR

we must band together to stop claptrap on claptrap violence

[leaden stag]

nah let them, one less claptrap in the world

[vague spoke]

no
claptrap on claptrap violence=unnatural, wrong both morally and logically
people on claptrap violence=natural, a part of life

https://youtu.be/0jXqyG1G1J0?si=fWUf_CY-UXX5KzrO

ok good he picked mordecai-
he doesn't know about lethal strike being broken

[dusk ocean]

@lofty flame

[lofty flame]

Anarchist is not bad at all

And since youre maya you can also spec into Immolate if you do happen to go down

And you get like a fuckton of fire damage

[dusk ocean]

yeah mine its 5/5 alrd

[proud robin]

nice find

[dusk ocean]

😭 thx? idk i just picked it up and rolled with it

[lofty flame]

You might want a better shield tho

White rarity amp is not gonna do much shielding

[proud robin]

i havent gotten an anarchist in a long while so 💔

[dusk ocean]

i guess thats why im dying so much...

[rough galleon]

adaptive and turtles are the way to go for most of the cast

[lofty flame]

You can maybe make Maliwans and Torgues work early on since they dont have too low of a capacity

[jolly tartan]

whats the relic

[tawdry shell]

that’s only useful if you have scorn iirc

[lofty flame]

Yep

[hybrid steppe]

An override relic? Not really a Maya comm unless you melee or scorn.. I recommend something like cooldown or something to increase elemental damage

[dusk ocean]

doesnt that decrease the cd of my main skill?

idk i havent found any other useful relics either way

[lofty flame]

Override only apply to skills that override your standard melee

[dusk ocean]

omg...

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah cooldown relic decreases cooldown.. if you haven’t found any like elemental relic just do some chests for any cooldown relic

[lofty flame]

Cooldown relic on maya is also kinda overkill

Unless its a Bone

Besides that something like elemental/agression/allegiance should work

Elemental being the one you try to get and the others just to "make do"

[dusk ocean]

yeah dont have any of those

got this rn btw, and killed myself by accident, is it good?

[lofty flame]

Its not good

Its more trouble than its worth (imo)

[hybrid steppe]

A bunny.. any of the actual dedicated from Tubbies like that and WTF is yeah more trouble

[lofty flame]

Hey what level is that fire bandit shotgun

Maybe it works on the varkids

Hell the Conference Call might as well

[dusk ocean]

bruh

[dusk ocean]

this one?

[lofty flame]

Good find but yeah shame its too high

Try the Conference Call maybe it still goes crazy

[dusk ocean]

i mean im almost lv.40

[hybrid steppe]

Actually also what level is that green bandit launcher?

I saw it in ur Inv earlier

[lofty flame]

Basically just tell us the highest level gun you can use (that isnt slag or corrosive)

Wait cant you just sort your inventory by level or im mixing it up with another game

[dusk ocean]

💀

[hybrid steppe]

Oof so the same?

[dusk ocean]

alr im lv.40 now so its fine

[dusk ocean]

is this better than the one i had?

[rough galleon]

not by much but it is more useful

[dusk ocean]

oh well

[copper wasp]

It's good at being sold for cash at the vendors, but not much else

[zinc hamlet]

two legendaries next to each other

[hybrid steppe]

Noice

[tawdry shell]

@thin tangle here

[peak ether]

First Crawmerax of this save and I did it with a lvl34 Anaconda

Fuck you game >:(

[hybrid steppe]

Loves to give god roll items for the character you aren’t playing as

[peak ether]

That isn't a god roll

360

My current class mod btw

Yes this is what I'm killing Craw with

[wheat harbor]

damn on OG too
nice

[wheat harbor]

loaded

of all the skills for it to roll

[tawdry shell]

the class mod ever

[peak ether]

Dw I just got a better one

+4 Deadly
+3 Loaded

Such a massive improvement

My fucking loadout was so cursed because I bee lined Craw first thing after hitting max lvl

[wheat harbor]

[peak ether]

The extra funny part is I don't even have Loaded specced

Next time I hear "Craw is literally impossible solo" I'm just gonna point to this

Holy shit Draco

[rough galleon]

craw is impossible to solo, i can only use ledge 😦

[dusk ocean]

is it good? bruh its only lv.31 ;-;

[rough galleon]

not bad

[rough galleon]

best way to find out if something is good or not is to try to kill with it tho

[dusk ocean]

😭 this is prob gonna suck because its lv.31

[rough galleon]

then sell it

[dusk ocean]

if it was lv.41 it'd be way better

its ok i guess

[rough galleon]

yeah sell it

dont bother with gear 10 lvls below lol

[dusk ocean]

:/, what weapon can i get thats ok

[rough galleon]

wait until you kill Jack/Talon of God if you want a high level harold to farm or just like, go to UVHM

Maya doesnt really boost what Harold can do anyways

depends on COM but high fire rate with strong crits is what Maya works well with

[dusk ocean]

alr i got maggie nice

[dusk ocean]

i thought it'd be a sniper

so an smg?

whats a good smg? or high fire rate pistol then?

[rough galleon]

snipers are good on her too

[rough galleon]

but vladof snipers, which are known for high fire rate and higher mags, are usually the better snipers lol

theres a Maya guide you can read in the #borderlands-2 pinned messages for gear recommendations

vladof and hyperion weapons are hard to go wrong with

[dusk ocean]

alr imma get into that thx

[peak ether]

@quiet ermine this is a Draco btw

[real oracle]

@rough galleon

[rough galleon]

yuh

[real oracle]

there is only one flakker invisible projectile that exists

[quiet ermine]

i believe it. definitely glad i didnt reject it due to fire rate. best choice i EVER made. loved borderland 1, will def play again

[rough galleon]

huh...i always thought it was like 3

thanks for the scary graph lol

[peak ether]

Basically in Bl1 how legendaries work is they're actually just a rare manufacturer exclusive part that rarely spawns on non uniques

[quiet ermine]

i soloed the whole game, with lilith, so aint NOTHING impossible to solo

[peak ether]

If a gun has one of these "legendary parts" it's supposed to get a special title that gives +50 to the gun's rarity score putting it into the yellow- light orange-dark orange rarity range

But on the og version the Draco title wasn't given the correct priority over normal MG titles so those basic titles of Machine Gun or Massacre override it

[peak ether]

The context was I just got that save to max lvl and the very first I did was solo the hardest boss in the game with lvl30-40 gear

Goes to show Craw ain't hard

You just gotta lock tf in

Or Gun Crazy is op

One of the 2

[wheat harbor]

doesnt the gun shoot the invisible projectile?
so theres 3/5 ?

[valid dagger]

I only got 20 days💔

[real oracle]

as in only one projectile exists, as an object

[wheat harbor]

ahh

right only one defintiion

[hybrid steppe]

I only did about 7 months to OP10 bc I took time between but that’s all the time I had in my game review

[valid dagger]

DANG😭

Bro

I only got Salvador op10

I’m working on Maya Rn

I already got zero and Gaige to lvl80

[hybrid steppe]

I made it to OP I’m not doing the others.. did Sal I’m not doing anymore.. kinda retired from BL2 unless I get it on PC maybe in the future?

[jolly tartan]

damn i only got like 400 hours

[hybrid steppe]

Yeah I was addicted

[opal ingot]

i have 0

[jolly tartan]

youve never played bl2?

[opal ingot]

correct

[rough galleon]

the good ending

[long solar]

Real

[jolly tartan]

very ggood game trust

[opal ingot]

nuh uh

[opal ingot]

my first

[lofty flame]

When is your last

[opal ingot]

tomorrow

[wheat harbor]

fuck thats actually a funny idea for a unique shield

have it drop from jack

[hybrid steppe]

I think in Exodus the made the first shield you get from Jack a unique with red text.. might of been a different mod tho

[dusk ocean]

thats insane

[hybrid steppe]

Errr.. was a long 2024 alright?

[dusk ocean]

thats only in 2024?

[hybrid steppe]

I pretty much retired from it I’m not really playing it at all anymore

[dusk ocean]

i mean im guessing u dont have anything else to do

[hybrid steppe]

I’ve moved onto borderlands 3 and any other game

I’ve gotta still finish bl1

[glass vessel]

Real

[dusk ocean]

bl1 looks old to me, but idk maybe ill buy it and try it out

[tawdry shell]

only a 3 year difference between it and bl2 lol

[real oracle]

the main difference that makes it look so old is the ui and palette choice

everything else looks almost the same tbf

[hybrid steppe]

Plus the game was released before the 2010s do you expect it to look like GTA6?

[real oracle]

bl2 just had a nicer palette choice and small changes to the art style that honestly? just looks really good

[rough galleon]

Personally i like the wasteland aethestics that bl1 has more
But can appreciate bl2's art design as well

[dusk ocean]

u think? mm alr well either way i only have 2, pre and 3 on epic but ill give it a try later on then

[dusk ocean]

is 1 more simple gameplay wise?

[rough galleon]

Yeah

[rough galleon]

Unique guns arent as flashy and neither are the action skills

That said, the guns do feel like they pack a punch more and the reception you get when enemies just...blow up or get beheaded, melt etc feels better

[dusk ocean]

mmm ok ok

i like the gun designs in 2 so far, hopefully 3 surprises me aswell

[rough galleon]

3 is an action skill/grenade game disguised as a shooter

[dusk ocean]

💀 so the opposite of 1

[fair sluice]

Would anyone be willing to boost me

[rough galleon]

And two

[dusk ocean]

😐 idk how i feel about that, my favorite part are the guns

[rough galleon]

Tps is when action skills can carry to a degree but prior
Guns were your main dmg dealers

[dusk ocean]

:c

[rough galleon]

[dusk ocean]

is 4 expected to be the same?

ik theres not much out there but did the community like 3?

[rough galleon]

Considering the trend
Yeah

And yes
Bl3 is praised for its gameplay

Bl2 and bl3 are the most popular games in the series so far

[dusk ocean]

aw, well idk maybe i like it

[tawdry shell]

borderlands legends >

[rough galleon]

Battleborn >>

[dusk ocean]

how many games are there damn

i thought it was 1, 2 and 3

now its tina, pre sequel and legends

[tawdry shell]

legends is an old discontinued mobile game

it was never good lol

[dusk ocean]

not surprised

[rough galleon]

But cryo was introduced in legends therefore it gets a +10 from me

[tawdry shell]

true!

kinda weird looking back considering it used bl1 assets i think

[rough galleon]

Yeah it did lol

[tawdry shell]

i hope the bl1 cryo mod gets expanded more at some point

[rough galleon]

Was daze not enough?

[tawdry shell]

i never even thought about the 2 combining lol

https://youtu.be/nGIe_Ev3a6Q?si=Gg0pxQEIPfEjB7ud

really old stuff by nola, but i think it’d be cool if it was in the regular loot pool

[wheat harbor]

i mean
yes
no?

its mostly just a balance issue with bl3 and the mayhem scaling

its not like grenades or action skills are inherrently designed to be better

[rough galleon]

yeah was mostly memeing but its kinda funny how action skills scale with mayhem level so even when undergeared, you can regear easily with it

[wheat harbor]

ye that very whack

actually
grenades dont even get mayhem scaling

theyre just
really strong lmao

[rough galleon]

funny fish and hex

[pastel zealot]

@peak ether the missions say i got it, see? (pt2 btw)

it even says i "did" the past missions

[rough galleon]

actually ive heard just a non unique sticky is like a fastball lol

[peak ether]

How tf is this a blue

[cunning sable]

Cause the color is blue
See?

[wheat harbor]

the reward icon isnt dependant on what you get

oh wait i misread that as a claptrap rescue mission

[icy elk]

Can this barrel accept the melee accessory ?

I was playing around in gibbed, I want to know if a genuine weapon can have this barrel and this attachment

[tawdry shell]

if it couldn’t spawn on there it would be deleted

unless you have sanity savor

so yeah blades can spawn on those guns

[icy elk]

Yea interesting, it looks odd so I assumed it was not meant to go with it

One interesting thing tho is that weapons created in gibbed only get the correct prefix and title once they have been in your backpack, so if you create one and you set it to appear in your quick slots it can have the wrong name, or even no name at all

Does the backpack have a rule checking system?

[quiet ermine]

not the smg i was lookin for, was iso HX Hellfire SMG but this stinger aint half bad

[peak ether]

Damn holy shit that's a good one

Barrel 4 Vector Accessory Mag 3

[quiet ermine]

yea i may just take that over the hellfire tbh

i feel id be dumb to throw this away

[peak ether]

Hellfire is boringly op

So prolly for the better

[nocturne ruin]

you have to do it in PT1

for some reason the SDUs are only in PT1 mode even if you didnt actually complete the mission in PT1 and wanna try it in PT2

[quiet ermine]

idk...ravens better statwise but...dracos fire is a boon...which do i keep?

[peak ether]

Both

They aren't competing in the same role

[quiet ermine]

well i havent rlly used my sniper rifle for....anything anymore....so i could dump that for raven

[peak ether]

CRs are mid range crit monsters

MGs are to hose crowds down

Also body2 Draco

Worst possible body

[quiet ermine]

ill drop snipers all together cuz i just...never find any chance to ever use them, my cr profiency is higher lmao

[peak ether]

Lilith has a sniper boosting com in the knoxx dlc and it's one of her best

[quiet ermine]

com? i think im having a brain fart

[peak ether]

Lilith loves class mods that boost dmg because her skill trees don't give her a lot

And as it turns out only 2 don't do that

[quiet ermine]

ive got a defender class mod rn

it doesnt boost damage

[peak ether]

You like SMGs?

Get a Mercenary

[quiet ermine]

an SMG is to be my bread n butter, course i adore SMGs

[peak ether]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class-mod/mercenary-lilith-bl1

One good look at it should summarize why this is the most popular Lilith com

[quiet ermine]

i need!!!!

[peak ether]

It's not even her only fucking stupid com either

She has 3 separate coms for fire, shock, and corrosive

All which are also fucking stupid strong

Then one that just buffs dots across the board period

Then the Specter for boosting sniper crit

Oh and she has the Maliwan and Dahl allegiance coms too

[quiet ermine]

oh?

[peak ether]

The Defender isn't even bad it's just why would you run it when the competition is fucking this

This is where Lilith's playstyle diversity mostly comes from

The sheer number of good class mods she has

[quiet ermine]

sooooo how hard should i expect this to be to get?\

[peak ether]

Rng be rng

I'm shocked you haven't found out about it sooner

[nocturne ruin]

pandemic in a locker bro

[quiet ermine]

hey look! its 2020 in a locker lmao

[nocturne ruin]

a pandemic... and a tediore gun

[tawdry shell]

i wonder if it’s possible to get a double legendary in a locker?

i don’t see why not

[nocturne ruin]

still waiting for the day i find a legendary in a dumpster

[tawdry shell]

i don’t think i’ve ever seen a legendary nade and gun in the same locker tho

[wheat harbor]

better than 1?

[peak ether]

MGs can't get body1

[dark steppe]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206411931993383002/1347707213405229116/2025030716523400_s.jpg?ex=67cccda6&is=67cb7c26&hm=1f885604d6498842a11c0a0a05971335bd7978776ce190250933f2a7f2951dc9&=&format=webp&width=1249&height=703
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206411931993383002/1347707214080770189/2025030716524300_s.jpg?ex=67cccda7&is=67cb7c27&hm=da676d1a0c20fda102d23c6f9917f1ec9dae09ecaa0eed9d0f971d671445a3a4&=&format=webp&width=1249&height=703
got these today back-to-back while farming bunker

[rough galleon]

need to talk in this discord a bit more to get the first role, Vault Hunter

[dark steppe]

thanks for letting me know, i appreciate it

[pastel zealot]

This was about the skill point not the sdu

I skipped the entire dlc like a fucking idiot and straight up went for the INAC after doing the first mission
Game automatically thought i did every other story mission
And i got no idea if it gave me the skill point or nah

[wheat harbor]

ahh

right i forgot

[fair sluice]

i now have an invisible vulkano and a flakkano

[nocturne ruin]

oh i didnt knwo about an extra skill point

[quiet ermine]

ok, so these where my two that could be usable, any advice which to pick, my current SMG is in the pick i replied too

[peak ether]

I'd use the higher accuracy one

[tawdry shell]

i’d use that one just cause it looks cooler :p

i like the long barrel

[peak ether]

Barrel 5 does indeed look the coolest of all the smg barrels

[tawdry shell]

bl1’s weapons have always had a fairly nice look to them, i just wish they had skins that popped a bit more sometimes

nothing crazy busy just a bit more color, kinda like the gearbox ones

[pastel zealot]

nvm i wasnt @rough galleon

[rough galleon]

nice

[pastel zealot]

no idea which head to put on though so i change that all the time

sometimes i do warm and toasty with splitting headache
cozy melee krieg viiiibes uwuuu

ig i can use "MASKS MAKE ME LOOK FAT" for the full tribe warrior look that works with melee

[peak ether]

Lilith shenanigans

@quiet ermine my save list btw

So long I had to take 2 images of it

[opal ingot]

couldn't even do like 49p5f2498p5296592 for the character names smh

[rough galleon]

966lplkhk2214hk

[opal ingot]

asdfasdfasdf, even

[peak ether]

If I did that I would have zero fucking clue which file was which

[rough galleon]

play it to find out

:V

[peak ether]

I don't even remember what every one has lmao

[rough galleon]

mood

mine are named who Im playing that playthrough with
if it actually has a name, I was doing it solo

[peak ether]

This Lilith has an Atlas Havoc that's better than her Draco

[quiet ermine]

welp now theres something i can rlly make use of

[peak ether]

Some of the highlights from this Armory haul

Neat

Worse than my current one tho

No pearls as expected

[quiet ermine]

soemthing tells me that im not getting a better one unless its the dlc sniper com

[peak ether]

Not the best rolls but it might be a while

[hybrid steppe]

Damn no element.. Vladof grip.. At least it’s fast bullets?

[reef pollen]

It’s a fun novelty at least

It’s funny because I did doc mercy right after and got a rapid matching grip infinity first try

[hybrid steppe]

Eh yeah fun to make fun of for me.. low level cus you probably got it from Lilith DLC.. but yeah got one before me.. I’m retired from bl2 tho I can’t be bothered to play it again

[reef pollen]

Nah, base game believe it or not

[hybrid steppe]

Ah wow.. cool ig then

[reef pollen]

Yeah, I know it’s nothing cool but eh lol

[quiet ermine]

@peak ether my Orion

[peak ether]

One of the 2 best barrels too

That's a really fucking good one

[quiet ermine]

so definitely a good orion XD

[peak ether]

Meanwhile I got this earlier

[quiet ermine]

imma guess that one u got is just...bad?

[peak ether]

Same barrel as yours but the worse body

Semi auto snipers only have 2 bodies

Body 2 and Body 5

[quiet ermine]

orion seems to have nearly no weaponsway when ads

[peak ether]

Did you grab the SDU in that dlc yet btw

[quiet ermine]

sdu?

[peak ether]

Inventory upgrade

[quiet ermine]

if not i missed it

[peak ether]

It's right here

[quiet ermine]

got it. ty

[peak ether]

Bro what

[quiet ermine]

lmfao

[quiet ermine]

HX 400 C Hellfire, thats decent, finally got the right body..

[peak ether]

Hey uh Sakura

You know how I said Radiance is ass

[quiet ermine]

yea?

[peak ether]

Um

[quiet ermine]

its not is it

[peak ether]

It's not

I decided to try to see if I could kill generic mobs using only Radiance

[quiet ermine]

figured, lilith needs damage, so any way she can deal damage or increase her damage i figure is good

[peak ether]

And uh

Turns out it doesn't do fuck shit amounts of dmg immediately but it slowly ramps up

[quiet ermine]

oof may need to adjust my planned build then

[peak ether]

Nah your current build plan is still good

One unboosted Radiance DoT did that

@wheat harbor Radiance scares me now

[wheat harbor]

o

[peak ether]

Yeah uh turns out

[wheat harbor]

i mean
if you get a dot

bl1 dots are % based

[peak ether]

If the DoT goes on long enough it just decides to do a fuckton of dmg

BRB I'm killing Sledge with this shit

Wait a sec

it fucking spreads

Why does it spread

[tawdry shell]

see i remember radiance being good when i was younger

knew i wasn’t tweaking when i always liked it

[wheat harbor]

all dots can

i wonder if radiance has a custom shock dot

ill look into it in a bit

[tawdry shell]

visually i think radiance has a different effect compared to regular shock?

[peak ether]

I thought that was bugged and didn't work

[tawdry shell]

i remember it looking larger

[wheat harbor]

its like
the spread chance scales with remaining time
so it really depends on the dot duration

its kinda implemented stupidly

[fleet lance]

@tawdry shell

And this is Play though one

[tawdry shell]

you sure you didn't accidentally chose pt2? it selects it by default

[fleet lance]

I am sure

[tawdry shell]

weird shit with the enhanced version then i dunno

nothing scales that high in pt1 outside of craw

[fleet lance]

Well I needed to do a 2 play though anyways

[fading tinsel]

maybe this is a visual bug. did you try going after the mission to see if the enemies are overleveled as well?

[fleet lance]

Sure did

Got my ass kick

[fading tinsel]

if they are... well. just leave that quest for now and go to PT2 if there's nothing else to do in pt1

really weird bug. never seen that

[fleet lance]

Already doing that

Like I said got no choice

[fading tinsel]

yeah.

[opal ingot]

i've had the same thing happen
in pt2
and it's not a visual bug
even the mobs are level 61

[tawdry shell]

damn

[rough whale]

gotta boucing bonny from a vending machine

[hybrid steppe]

Stupid rare.. Bonny is world drop only AND from a vending machine.. luuuuucky you

[rough whale]

yeah i heard it was pretty rare lol

[opal ingot]

if it's from a vending machine why isn't it shown in a vending machine smh

[hybrid steppe]

Uh oh.. John calling you out.. honestly fair question

[rough whale]

i wanted to screenshot it before hand but i had already bought it without thinking about it I genuinly did grab it for the vending machine tho it was dumb on my part

[quiet ermine]

soooooo i think i got robbed on my HX Hellfire????

[trail surge]

At least you got one 🙂

[quiet ermine]

true, but something tells me i got bad parts, besides the body, hellfire wants body 5(part code-HX for SMGs only)

[trail surge]

True

[quiet ermine]

i need to find parts codes for ALL weapon types eventually, uk, have the techy bs written down haha

[peak ether]

Thumper mag

[quiet ermine]

yea that hurts... but its still got more then enough power to shoot alotta shit just ONCE and walk away knowing it is gonna die from the dot

[dusk ocean]

@rough galleon look

[rough galleon]

etech relic

[dusk ocean]

i mean it looks good

30% dmg and cooldown?

[rough galleon]

yes, thats bone of the ancients lol

[dusk ocean]

😭 damn it, i need this luck when i get to max lvl

[steady kettle]

Bone of the ancients drops super commonly from loot midgets

[dusk ocean]

is this good?

[steady kettle]

At least the ones in the preserve

[dusk ocean]

thank god, i mean im not max lvl so i guess it didnt have much value

[steady kettle]

Imo the slagga is 10x better for slagging

[dusk ocean]

alr

[steady kettle]

Nah 34% cooldown and 30% incendiary is still dope

I’d take the e tech gun tho

[dusk ocean]

😭 thank u for making me feel better

its not like i can get it back

[rough galleon]

spikers are meh
even more so when slag

[dusk ocean]

yeah u gotta wait like 1 second for it to blow up

[rough galleon]

at least its the better of the two options for etech pistols

[fading tinsel]

THUMPER HELLFIRE 😭

still works well though. hellfire gameplay is basically shooting your enemies a few times and then waiting till they die, as the fire damage is way better. same thing for badasses, except you'll have to shoot until they're low enough to die from the afterburn, or shoot them again when the effect ends

tbh I think you already figured that out by now. lol

[quiet ermine]

yup. shoot em enough to do deal some damage, and walk away and let the dot do my bitch work XD

[wheat harbor]

i mean
its a hellfire
it just means you rely on the stupid strong dot instead of the impact damage

theres definitely an argument for the slower stuff on elemental guns

because of how tech works

[quiet ermine]

yea i definitely wanna farm for a better HX Hellfire with any mag that aint a thumper haha

but now that my lil has a solid foundation, with 4 more points into slayer, for slayer 5/5 then imma put into the middle tree, as imma put into that tree last. assassin and controller first which ive done or will have done once slayer is 5/5

[proud robin]

thought they were only supposed to drop from loot midgets around lvl 60 ?

[dusk ocean]

i guess not.

[wheat harbor]

nope
youre thinking of (some) pearls and legendary coms from tubbies

[proud robin]

definitely the coms, myb

[wheat harbor]

gotta love
loot midgets at 51+
or
tubbies at 62+

[nocturne ruin]

Rate my fragtrap fit

[rough whale]

god its...its beautiful

9.5 out of 10

[proud robin]

the color of the body is odd
6.5

[nocturne ruin]

wdym odd?

[proud robin]

like the darker orange doesnt look great imo

[peak ether]

I'm not really a fan of the Sentinel heads tbh

[nocturne ruin]

i think this is the best skin for the sentinel head tho

i'd like it if it didn't give claptrap in particular wings

[peak ether]

My favorite Claptrap head is the Tales one

Stranger Trap

Commando and Emperor trap are also good

[proud robin]

my favourite head is lunr-tp probably

[nocturne ruin]

for some reason im just... not recieving it despite having a TFTBL save

[peak ether]

?gibbed

[serene escarp]

BL2:
https://github.com/gibbed/Gibbed.Borderlands2/releases

TPS:
https://github.com/gibbed/Gibbed.BorderlandsOz/releases/tag/1.0.25

[nocturne ruin]

ngl a lot of the time i also use the default head

[peak ether]

Fuck wrong command

?gib

[serene escarp]

just gib it lmao

[proud robin]

true

[peak ether]

You need the season pass from the original release of the game

[nocturne ruin]

so is the wiki wrong saying you just need a save?

[peak ether]

Not the rerelease from after Telltale got shut down

[nocturne ruin]

wiki also says some skins come from the baroness pack but i have aurelia and yet i dont the skins

[peak ether]

Actually you might be right

[nocturne ruin]

so did gearbox just like... not bother to fix it?

[nocturne ruin]

wdym

[peak ether]

I never bought the Tales season pass but I still got the heads and skins

[serene escarp]

wiki bad Loot🍋 good

[peak ether]

But that was the og version of Tales

[peak ether]

Yeah

Like I said the only way to get those heads and skins is if you use gibbed

[nocturne ruin]

good job gearbox

[peak ether]

Most of the heads aren't great imo but Clappy's specifically looks amazing

[nocturne ruin]

btw i have another clappy fit for you to rate

this isnt what i was gonna show but this is kinda cool so thoughts?

[tawdry shell]

goes hard

[nocturne ruin]

this one

[tawdry shell]

eh

[nocturne ruin]

here's one of my favorite claptrap skins

it's an epic rarity claptrap lol

[nocturne ruin]

@tawdry shell

[tawdry shell]

it’s nice

[nocturne ruin]

Side note: way less visually appealing but this is what a rare claptrap looks like

[nocturne ruin]

I'd love this if it weren't for one issue. THIS SKIN IS BUGGED

can you spot the issue?

[wheat harbor]

the patch

[nocturne ruin]

no

the blue line, theres just a teeeeeny bit thats red

it's more clear on this head

hold up. I just tried it on the sentinel head. this kinda fire?

[rough whale]

i like that

[dusk ocean]

WAIT U CAN CHANGE CLAPS SKIN?

[nocturne ruin]

....what?

[dusk ocean]

i didnt know that

how...

is that bl2?

[nocturne ruin]

no...

[dusk ocean]

oh...

[nocturne ruin]

it's the pre-sequel where claptrap is playable and therefore his skin can be changed

[dusk ocean]

oh yeah i havent played pre, gotta finish 2

[nocturne ruin]

gl

[dusk ocean]

playable claptrap sounds intersting...

[proud robin]

he's fun

[nocturne ruin]

how far in bl2 are you? you may or may not have met characters that are also playable

[proud robin]

he's got to uvhm iirc
i assume at least

[nocturne ruin]

@dusk ocean is this true

[proud robin]

i saw the botd post a while ago soooo

[dusk ocean]

im on utvhm

i havent done the dlcs tho

[tawdry shell]

what’s blood of the dead got to do with this

[nocturne ruin]

have you done the borderlands 1 dlcs?

[dusk ocean]

i have not touched 1

[proud robin]

i wrote it wrong whoops
long live

bota

[nocturne ruin]

oh because a character that hasn't been seen since the borderlands 1 dlcs returns

and is playable

[proud robin]

ultimate true vault hunter mode

[proud robin]

and infinitely cooler

[nocturne ruin]

she got a glow up

I'll just spoiler her

[dusk ocean]

yes.

[nocturne ruin]

the characters you can play as in the pre sequel are

• ||Athena|| from the bl1 dlc "the secret armory of general knoxx" who for some reason is not in bl2
• Claptrap (my favorite character in all of borderlands)
• Wilhelm
• The sheriff of Lynchwood, whose actual name is Nisha
  The 2 dlcs introduce new characters
• A doppleganger of jack named Timothy Lawrence (not the one you kill in opportunity)
• Aurelia, Sir Hammerlock's sister who he has very terrible relations with

[dusk ocean]

claptrap trying to open the door on the last mission was mad funny

"AAAAND OPEN"

[nocturne ruin]

so does the lineup for the pre sequel sound cool

[proud robin]

best line up out of all the games imo

[nocturne ruin]

its interesting how most of the cast being existing characters actually helped rather than made it more difficult to design them

it also gives chances for cool references tho
like nisha's "showdown" having the same name as the mission that you kill her in bl2
Or wilhelm having a skill tree ability called "rolling thunder" which is also the name of one of his dedicated drops in bl2

[dusk ocean]

so tps is playing with a bunch of characters?

[nocturne ruin]

wdym?

[tawdry shell]

tps the vault hunters are all previous characters is what they are saying (besides aurelia)

[dusk ocean]

claptrap, jacks doppleganger

[proud robin]

well there are the exceptions being aurelia and timothy
everyone else is a pre-existing character given more life

[nocturne ruin]

tbf timothy is just how jack would probably play but with a different personality that makes him kinda funny
aurelia is the only fully original character

[proud robin]

timothy technically isn't but he also
is, lol

[dusk ocean]

idk if claptraps gameplay gonna be fun tho,

[proud robin]

ye

[tawdry shell]

it is

[proud robin]

have you played with him, you have not cs you havent touched the game :P you can pick any of the other characters if you have doubts

[nocturne ruin]

its amazing

But heres something to entice you: In the game since its on the moon you have to worry about oxygen, but claptrap doesnt need to worry about oxygen since he's a robot

[proud robin]

also doesnt need to worry about fire dots as much (with a caveat to that.)

[tawdry shell]

honestly you don't need to worry about oxygen in the first place

[nocturne ruin]

yeah but then he has to deal with corrosion

[proud robin]

yuh

[tawdry shell]

the game gives you plenty of opportunities to refill your air

[proud robin]

and it's never ever really been fatal
just means less movement, which does suck

[nocturne ruin]

but clappy is exempt >:3

[dusk ocean]

idk cant imagine claptrap gameplay

[nocturne ruin]

also the one dlc campaign that the pre-sequel has is one of the best borderlands dlcs

[dusk ocean]

😭 not going up stairs

[proud robin]

his action skill is a slot machine of random shit but his abilities revolve around explosives

[nocturne ruin]

claptrap has a stair climbing wheel in the pre sequel
"less movement" as in having to find oxygen spots for the humans

[proud robin]

also he can go up stairs, as part of his FR4G-TP upgrade

[nocturne ruin]

unfortunately he had his door opening protocols removed tho

[dusk ocean]

thats a thing?

[nocturne ruin]

also fun fact: claptrap is one of three robotic vault hunters

[nocturne ruin]

yeah its part of him being turned into a vault hunter

[peak ether]

3?

Who tf is the third

[nocturne ruin]

Loader Bot from TFTBL

[peak ether]

Oh

[nocturne ruin]

(zer0 is not a robot)

[peak ether]

Is bro cooking

(I do not know how to Maya)

[nocturne ruin]

Loader Bot counts as a VH, right?

[peak ether]

I was only considering mainline games not Tales

[nocturne ruin]

yeah but im just not sure if he counts as one

[peak ether]

I mean I wouldn't?

But who tf cares?

[nocturne ruin]

well im tryna count how many vault hunters we know exist in borderlands

[peak ether]

Roland:"You have a fire gun right?"
The conveniently placed Hellfire in my inventory:

[nocturne ruin]

if loader bot counts, i think there's 31

[rough galleon]

not maxing out Foresight 😠

[peak ether]

I'm lvl 38

[nocturne ruin]

heres my claptrap build

[peak ether]

I forgot how ass the Hellfire feels

[nocturne ruin]

better in bl1

[peak ether]

I'm more used to Bl1 guns

[rough galleon]

best in bl1

[peak ether]

So checks out

[rough galleon]

the rest of the games
hellfire falls off

[nocturne ruin]

i heard it gets worse every game
imagine how bad its gonna be in bl4

[rough galleon]

kinda a running trend with fire as an element ngl

[nocturne ruin]

i think for a joke they should make it so in bl4 the name for the standard maliwan incendiary guns is hellfire

or some other manufacturer since it seems to change now

[rough galleon]

its already a spell rather than a gun in Wonderland but honestly
the spell is pretty nifty

fire and dark magic meteors rain down onto enemies

[nocturne ruin]

its still unique in that game

[rough galleon]

yes

[nocturne ruin]

have it be non-unique in bl4

[rough galleon]

but not legendary
its rare rarity now lol

[nocturne ruin]

in bl5 have it be whatever that game's equivalent to the Basic Repeater will be

also have you noticed all 4 mainline borderlands games start with a claptrap giving you a tutorial

[peak ether]

The Hellfire is one of those guns I don't mind not returning tbh

[nocturne ruin]

the infinity better come back tho

[peak ether]

It's effect has been quite boring in every game

[nocturne ruin]

i disagree
thats why i like it so much even if ppl think it sucks

[nocturne ruin]

Bl1, claptrap meets you as you get off the bus
Bl2, who saves you after the train explosion? Claptrap
TPS, while not the same claptrap as the others, a claptrap still greets you
Bl3, claptrap meets you off the bus again

[rough galleon]

you dont like..uh...high chance to DoT and stronger DoT?

[nocturne ruin]

I think they meant the infinity

unless im wrong

[peak ether]

The Hellfire but the same applies to the midfinity

[nocturne ruin]

no i like the infinity

[rough galleon]

midnity

i really just use it for Maya if im too lazy to aim to heal people

[peak ether]

A lot of ppl don't even realize Bl1 already did that gimmick

Because the Dove is truly the gun of all time

[rough galleon]

what the fuck is Cauterize?

oh wait
yeah infinity

plus BL1 had guns that regen ammo or just skills to do so

making running out of ammo rather hard even if you arent looting

[nocturne ruin]

yeah but that one actually sucks

[peak ether]

I bet you money someone has lost a one life to the train crash in Tundra Express

Guys I died to Wilhelm

I'm so fucking washed at this game

[rough galleon]

its over

[nocturne ruin]

i think i saw a challenge youtuber die to it

fun fact, the train cart that wilhelm emerges from in his bossfight can also kill you

[peak ether]

How many fire rate parts do you want?
Yes

[cunning sable]

Not enough, not a Vladof

[peak ether]

TRUE

[wheat harbor]

erm a weapon type isnt a part dupid

[cunning sable]

THE BODY MAKES THE WEAPON TYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wheat harbor]

NUH UH

maliwan and vladof bodies are identical

dupid

[peak ether]

https://youtu.be/PKKQ4JwMfpA?si=ezr8mxFY3CqfbS9Y

@quiet ermine this video explains how to do it

It's a pretty easy glitch to do

[cunning sable]

Well your......

Smelvin!!!!!!

[quiet ermine]

@peak ether

[peak ether]

Drop Enforcer for now

It's a smaller dmg buff and conditional

High Velocity is always actice

[quiet ermine]

regrab enforcer later then

[peak ether]

Yeah

[quiet ermine]

not lookin forward to the last grind to max level haha

[peak ether]

It doesn't take that long to get from 50-69 off of guardians

Tamest max lvl grind in the series

[wheat harbor]

[quiet ermine]

doesnt take long as in...? just kinda lookin to see how longish

[peak ether]

I wanna say an hour and a half?

But that's pulling a number out of my ass

[quiet ermine]

ooooo not bad then, whats max weapon proficiency?

[peak ether]

50

[quiet ermine]

thats just overkill lmfao

[peak ether]

Lilith gets the most out of weapon profs imo

Because High Velocity and Enforcer are bullet dmg while Proficiency buffs are weapon

So they multiply off each other

This is also why the Merc and elemental coms are so good

[quiet ermine]

makes sense as she LOVES everything that can give her damage...

[peak ether]

Crit buffs also exist in a similar vein to that too

But crit is uh

[quiet ermine]

tho the + to skills doesnt reflect in the skill tree??? am i actually getting those pluses even if the skills at max?

[peak ether]

A whole other can of worms that I don't understand so I can't explain further

[peak ether]

Yes

But you need at least 1 point in the skill to get the buff

[wheat harbor]

it works teh same as 2

just without the highlight

[peak ether]

They haven't played 2

[wheat harbor]

ah interesting

i was about to say bl2 adding in the highlight makes it more confuisng for those that go back to 1

[quiet ermine]

i only have BL1 sadly

[wheat harbor]

but then
thay havent played 2

[wheat harbor]

fortunately*

[peak ether]

I would genuinely fight on the hill that 2 is a worse game than 1

[quiet ermine]

but i am absolutely loving BL1, except the knoxx DLC. that shit was nothing but straight bs only to get all whites from armory.

[wheat harbor]

i think the story armory run is worse?

[peak ether]

was playing it right here

[wheat harbor]

(ive never actually confirmed that)

[wheat harbor]

brick only has bullet too
roland only has gun damage for shotguns

[peak ether]

words that'll get me lynched

[quiet ermine]

try my hellfire with its stuuupid thumper mag lmfao

[wheat harbor]

merc is gun damage for smgs so lilith doesnt get as much out of smg prociciency compared to other weapon types

meanwhile the gunslinger doesnt boost pistol damage at all

so mordi just has killer

[peak ether]

Brick also has fuck loads of dmg

Lilith doesn't

[peak ether]

This was in context to the Bl2 hellfire

A Body 5 Hellfire in Bl1 is butter smooth

[quiet ermine]

yea mines got body 5, the thumper mag ruins it lmao

[peak ether]

Tho guns feeling like ass is a Bl2 issue across the board

I have no idea how they made them feel so bad after how good bl1 guns feel

[quiet ermine]

well uk, devs being half assed is a thing lmao

[wheat harbor]

fair

[wheat harbor]

they took the bl1 baseline and removed what makes guns good

try all part 1 guns with no proficiency

thats how bl2 guns feel always

[peak ether]

"Oh your gun didn't roll the matching grip to its manufacturer? it reloads like molasses now"

[wheat harbor]

like
from memory when i looked into it
bl1 and bl2 guns generally have fairly similar base stats
but without proficiencies and parts that are intentionally deigned to make guns better
bl2 guns just stay bad

[peak ether]

That sums up Bl2 guns pretty much

[wheat harbor]

ofc it cant translate 1 to 1 since bl2 and bl1 have different weapon types

as now each manufacturer has its own weapon type definition

[peak ether]

I should meme around more with the Bl3 Hellfire

Get an ele crit annoit one and run it with OMF

I already used it on an Unweave the Rainbow Amara

Because as it turns out the Hellfire freezes really fucking fast

[tawdry shell]

curious

could you like just replace BAR with the proficiency system?

[wheat harbor]

maybe?

ive actually commented that
maybe bl2 is kinda designed around bar

which is why weapons do feel so terrible

but
bar really fails at capping itself

[tawdry shell]

tru

i dunno if just throwing in the proficiency system would fix anything but it'd be a cool alternative

[peak ether]

I'd much rather just have guns not feel shit as a base

I like the prof system but I also don't think it should come back in newer games

[wheat harbor]

for sure

i do think 3 went overboard in some ways

like guns generally feel way too accurate

while sometimes the mag sizes are like
stupid small

[wheat harbor]

had to ask funko
it shouldve been an asymptote, not just level ^0.7 or something

if it was an asymptote itd approach a value but never reach it

that way you can give each stat an effective cap with infinite scaling

[wispy berry]

Maximum Effort forsure

Both for TPS and BL2

Btw some ammo is modded but all supply is bought with money or regen

[icy elk]

Hi guys my computer specs are RTX 3090
Ryzen 7 5800x
16gb ddr4 3600hz memory (one slot isn’t working, can’t use 32gb currently)

I’m trying to eliminate the 1% lows in my frame rate, any ideas on how what I could do? I try and maintain a consistent framerate of 144 fps ( my monitors refresh rate) I want to know if anyone has any ideas on what I could do

I’ve noticed the game stutters when the lows hit below 70 fps

[odd moat]

Do you have physx on?

[paper gulch]

i was playing around with axton to see what i could build up for him, do u guys think this is viable

[lofty flame]

Could definitely ditch Nuke for Gemini

[paper gulch]

im a total noob btw i cant go in depth or anything i just thought his health buffs would go well together

[lofty flame]

But it should work fine

[lofty flame]

Also Crisis Management is pretty counterintuitive for Axton

Since he has much more ways to keep his shield up

[paper gulch]

is this a bit better

[lofty flame]

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/axton#_5505515001_05055150100_05050153151 this is usually what i run at max level for your standard gun Axton

[paper gulch]

ic

thanks

[lofty flame]

Weapon choice is basically anything you want, with a preference for things with grenade splash

Classmod i usually run Legendary Soldier, Expert Grenadier or Legendary Engineer sometimes

[icy elk]

No, but with my testing it makes no difference, since its handled by the gpu

[odd moat]

That's weird

Idk

[lofty flame]

Its been said somewhere else but the jist of it is that some games just dont like newer hardware

[inner lantern]

hmmmmm

capacity+delay, or elemental/health boost

[hybrid steppe]

I’d say the health and resistance boost is the best.. it’s only a second more so it’s still good for delay regardless

But purely opinion based.. it’s you’re choice

[inner lantern]

oooh this is a tough one

[hybrid steppe]

Keep the blue grenadier, 4 to impact and 3 to steady is still great and you get the grenade damage.. or just keep both idk

[inner lantern]

welp new one. but no impact

[tawdry shell]

@loud socket here

[small dirge]

im confused playing the first games remaster. says i need to pick something up here? or do something?

[tawdry shell]

did you kill the raid psycho

[peak ether]

Press the button hanging from the ceiling

[small dirge]

found it thanks

[rough whale]

was able to grab my first pearlescent from a loot midget

[small dirge]

nice

im still working on my first playthrough the whole series

[rough whale]

oh cool

[small dirge]

recently I beat the presequel

[rough whale]

i still have yet to play the rest

[hybrid steppe]

Unfortunately mine was a bearacat but it was a world drop from sorcerer’s daughter

[tawdry shell]

play bl1 when you get the chance

[small dirge]

yeah i wanted to do it before the new game releases

[rough whale]

i will definitely

[tawdry shell]

you started with tps?

[small dirge]

yea

[tawdry shell]

weird lol

[small dirge]

why

[rough whale]

pre sequel right after

[tawdry shell]

it takes place after 1 and before 2

[small dirge]

oh lol

[tawdry shell]

best to play the games in order of when they released really

not a huge deal though

[peak ether]

^

[small dirge]

i was playing them in the order of the story

[tawdry shell]

still the wrong order lol