bl1-2-tps-media

[cloud cobalt]

yh It does , but thats just like regular Game right?

i cannot travel the dust until quest line allows me to for example

[rough galleon]

unlock when you need to move to that map

unlike in NVHM when you need to go to the map to unlock the fast travel

[cloud cobalt]

aaah

i see

[lofty flame]

And theres cases where you actually need to save quit before the fast travel unlocks

[woeful isle]

what are those skills below the shield stats? what do they do? and how do i activate them?

[wheat harbor]

theyre skills in your skill tree

the com boosts the level if you have the skill specced

[spiral pier]

Was just blasting through all the areas to unlock all them for a steam achievement and idk what I killed but I'll take it lol

Bekah and Gunzerker mod lol

[woeful isle]

read the pic pls

[tawdry shell]

the cable box is on the backside of that pillar isn't it?

[woeful isle]

i obv meant pass and not path

[true pawn]

Gaige be pretty fun not gonna lie. Usually I just play for an hour or two at most

[woeful isle]

and how am i gonna reach that without suiciding_

[real oracle]

very carefully

[woeful isle]

cause to me the rocks there isnt that wide. and im a runner, not a carefully type

[real oracle]

it takes practice but you can drop down to the path

you can do it quickly if you just know how to

otherwise you have to take the long way around

[true pawn]

Can't you just nade jump the gap?

I mean I can, but I also have speed mods installed... So I don't actually know if it works with vanilla movement

[true pawn]

I mean, otherwise it's just to run straight past the electric fence, cross the first two bridges then immediately take a right and you'll find the switch, AKA the long way around

Here's a visual image just in case.

[wheat harbor]

dont walk off the ledge?

[true pawn]

I still find it hilarious that Discord still hasn't made it an option to choose to not always ping when replying It's my only gripe with replies

[heady marten]

You can do it right here. If you are talking about something else then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[long solar]

DPUH is so bad

It's not even funny

[real oracle]

it's not that bad

[dense sky]

is tyhere a mod to put tps characters in bl2

[real oracle]

no

[long solar]

I was outdamaged by a car funko

With a DPUH

[real oracle]

then a regular harold will do less

[true pawn]

No no, I know you can turn off the ping when replying, I just find it hilarious that Discord hasn't given an option to choose if you want to always ping when replying or have the ping always turned off. Right now, replying always pings, I for one would like to have the option to have it so that replies don't ping.

[real oracle]

is that so hard to understand

it's not a small dps difference either, unlike with other pistols

[long solar]

Normal Harold is more accurate and just better for ammo

I prefer hard or intense

[true pawn]

DPUH has lots of damage, it just vacuums through your ammo. So DPUH isn't really needed most of the time

[real oracle]

guess who started that take

[long solar]

Idk

[real oracle]

it still has a sizeable damage advantage, it's not like every other pistol in the game where the dps over other accessories is laughable

[heady marten]

It's great for close range and works best on large enemies since more projectiles hit

It's like a torgue shotgun converted to a pistol

[real oracle]

im a double hater but i cannot in all honestly call it shit on anyone but sal

[heady marten]

I think it's great in general

[long solar]

I was up in the enemies face btw

[real oracle]

the gun that relies on a time based split doing shit at point blank

and you're surprised

[true pawn]

It did take me a while to understand why people hated DPUH, like why would you turn down free dama- I have no ammo left. I see.

[real oracle]

now this is true, the harold is still massively overrated when you can just

use the lady fist at all ranges and still always outperform it

[long solar]

But like at range more pellets miss unless the enemy is massive

[heady marten]

Okay I agree the Lady Fist is a 10/10 gun when used right

[true pawn]

You don't need to hit all pellets to do massive damage, hitting like 3 - 4 out of the 5(10)(idk what the max pellet count is, haven't picked up a DPUH in a while) pellets is enough to kill most of the time

[real oracle]

this is true, yet it's still one of the stronger guns in the game even if it only gets about 60% of its damage tops

if you're genuinely fucking telling me with a straight face you're surprised the gun didn't work at point blank though

[long solar]

You use lady right but hitting crit

[real oracle]

and hope you're not fighting the odd few enemies that dont have a crit spot

i do mean odd few

so it's p much a non issue

idk maybe car stats are cracked

[long solar]

Am I considered crazy if I prefer a logans gun over Harold on axton

[tawdry shell]

cars do extra damage when the player holds a harold

[real oracle]

i cant stop you

[errant hawk]

done with true vault hunter mode, on to the pre-sequel now

[real oracle]

but you're getting 0 benefit from the logans gun on axton

sshh let them move on

[errant hawk]

i will come back to it eventually

i will probably play through the pre sequel and bl1 before i come back to bl2 for UVHM

[long solar]

Does rocket damage get increased by explosive?

[real oracle]

that is not how this game works

rocket damage is a damage source and there is no boosts accessible for it

explosive is a damage type because element, axton has none of it

nor is the logans gun explosive

that is gun damage constrainted to launchers

not a damage source boost

[rough galleon]

Axton Steady only increasing Launcher Gun Dmg

[real oracle]

^

[rough galleon]

also funny Do or Die

[real oracle]

i wish

[trim hinge]

that'd be funny

[real oracle]

changing it to be rocket damage was my first change i made

[long solar]

It does fire rocket damage on explosion so how does that work

[real oracle]

it

just does?

that's how the fucking code works

you have a behavior explode

with the rocket damage source
and fire damage type

oh no it's spaghetti!!!!

literally exactly how it works

that's because you came from a game that makes more sense

[rough galleon]

yeah, the better game

[tawdry shell]

i heard bl1

[real oracle]

great then you'd love to know bullet damage boosts dont affect launchers in that game which are most of your "gun damage" boosts in bl1 too

for the exact same reason

and now it's suddenly confusing

though i admit

i should remember that "explosions" being confused for grenade damage, "splash instances", and the explosive element is very common in this game

mainly due to the game having no unified splash system

bloodsplode is the element of what procs the kill

but no element procs an explosive one

grenade and rocket are damage sources, explosive is a damage type

[rough galleon]

it says that on the skill card...

[real oracle]

no

[tawdry shell]

procs the kill
procs

risk of rain reference?!?!?!?!?!?

clover in bl2 when

[real oracle]

1.13 per level

the base damage of guns is 8

but not for the gun

but the initdef that then gets scaled by the gun

im not home so i cant show

but basically weapontypes have their own base damage

[tawdry shell]

just bring up the mobile version of blcmm

smh my head

[real oracle]

based on this initdef
8*1.13^weaponlevel

[real oracle]

true

the value of 8 is arbitrary and doesnt actually matter

because it gets scaled anyway

[trim hinge]

devious work

[tawdry shell]

that'd be kinda cool tbh

probably be hell to navigate tho

[real oracle]

you throw it

if it kills then it doesnt matter

[rough galleon]

so true

[long solar]

But peak damage

[real oracle]

otherwise get the fastball's stats from blcmm and calculate it yourself

[tawdry shell]

calculat

[rough galleon]

chocolat

[real oracle]

looking at bl2's code is easy because you dont even need the game for it

you just need a computer

[tawdry shell]

[wheat harbor]

and the fact that it being splash basicslly never matters for the damage formula calculation

the only thing thst changes is what parts of an enemy you can hit

[queen gulch]

this is actually the scientific way

some might call it the method

[tawdry shell]

the subtitles are huge

[opal ingot]

@unborn swallow @long solar

[glass vessel]

I love in the Bl movie when they went to this map it was…..a small sewer

[slim fiber]

holy shit guys it's the tediore pistol

the most tediore pistol

[real oracle]

THE

[trim hinge]

it's THE

[opal ingot]

THE

[humble junco]

@quaint thorn https://youtu.be/QaVDnzSlQQs

[quaint thorn]

Ty

[echo magnet]

SCREW THIS DLC AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-26111081

[opal ingot]

still better than tina dlc in bl2

[echo magnet]

there is no way any BL content is worse to complete than Moxxi's pile of dogshite

[opal ingot]

there is
dragon keep

[echo magnet]

do you need to sit through 100 waves of boring shooting? just to fall asleep at wave 19 and die?

[rough galleon]

a hour of fighting vs a hour fighting elemental immune enemies and flying enemies

and just dont fall asleep
that's nothing to do with either game (-w-)B

[echo magnet]

what I mean it's so long, repetitive and boring you auto pilot and randomly die

and let's not talk about the RNG debuff combinations

also 1 hour? I spent like 20+ to do all the DLC

[opal ingot]

just get better smh

[tawdry shell]

i think the most fun i had with that dlc was the low gravity modifier during co op

[opal ingot]

pre sequel simulator

[tawdry shell]

having that on combined with launching with sledges shotgun was so funny

[rough galleon]

granted
co-op makes it better

[echo magnet]

probably it does

[rough galleon]

as almost every game does with friends

[echo magnet]

I solo'd it... blasted Rammstein

[upper crystal]

Find a friend that can spare 5 hours

[rough galleon]

@true pawn @long solar also funny testing grounds

[long solar]

Very funny

[rough galleon]

funny Skeleton programming

[long solar]

Peak

[opal ingot]

where bore noises

also took more than one shot run invalid

[tawdry shell]

jesus i must be tired

didn’t realize who you were playing and only heard the voice from the jump, was wondering how the fuck you bored bunker as axton

[long solar]

I have game audio turned down alot

[long solar]

I'm unlucky with bore

[long solar]

So peak

[opal ingot]

sounds like
a skill issue

[long solar]

Fuck you

[opal ingot]

no

[leaden stag]

I couldnt be arsed to do the moxi arena fully

shits just boring to me after a couple waves

[fiery ingot]

35.5 fire rate CHOPPER (gun shoot fast = louder!)

Now the chopper is a true machine gun lolz

A drawback is its ammo, but hey it’s like the BL1 version in that aspect.

Wish ammo didn’t get so expensive when leveling so high.

[buoyant arrow]

GUYS

GUYS

GUYS

[upper marlin]

Ok

[buoyant arrow]

fuck wrong channel

[fiery ingot]

So yeah the chopper is pretty cool! Just gotta make sure to interrupt its firing a lot with melees or something!

[winter python]

Is this good for Krieg?

[rough galleon]

yeah

[sharp lark]

Double prefix is hella good! Torgue grip is what you want for increased reload speed and damage!💪

[wheat harbor]

thats not double

hard is damage, which is still good

[winter python]

I just know that with Krieg you'd rather want intense or hard instead of double

[rough galleon]

that's only an thing for Salv really due to NKLOK

Double is still technically better but Hard and Intense are great options

[winter python]

I thought with sal you still want a DPUH

[real oracle]

nah

[rough galleon]

opposite

[real oracle]

funny discovery made about a year ago means dp fucking sucks on sal

[winter python]

I've always used dpuh on him 😭

[real oracle]

this is why

[rough galleon]

its a dps down if you have NKLOK which uh you should for any build but shotguns really

[real oracle]

funny overkill bonus cut into 1/4

[winter python]

So what exactly do I want for pistol sal?

[real oracle]

means that on a dpuh, basically any amount of overkill means it does massively less damage than a single pellet harold

probably intense

[rough galleon]

Lady Fist Grog is his best option
but yeah Harold wise, its Intense or Hard /shrug

[winter python]

I just mean gear overall ik sheriffs badge and grog

[real oracle]

the sheriffs badge is weaker than an explosive relic

it feels better but it's not actually better

[winter python]

Oh?

I'll have to get to op10 before I can use my explosive relic

[real oracle]

sal has enough fire rate, the gun damage makes overkill technically harder to build up than just using an explosive relic for roughly the same amount of damage

it just feels smoother

[winter python]

Would I still use rough rider? And what classmod for pistol?

[real oracle]

the RR would still be the play yeah, and you probably want to use a monk class mod

[winter python]

And I'm assuming mag size and smth else?

[real oracle]

not mag size, probably just chaotic evil

[winter python]

Oh okay

I just haven't played sal a whole lot mainly Krieg and zer0

[real oracle]

@wide fog that

[wide fog]

i don’t speak fucking nerd

[real oracle]

for reference henry normally has this much hp

[wide fog]

translate that shit hello?

[real oracle]

roughly 30 times more health

[wide fog]

right okay thanks

[real oracle]

and 20 times more shield

[wide fog]

[fiery ingot]

12 mil?

[wide fog]

me offhanding the zippy

[real oracle]

shut up

[rough galleon]

HOLY SHIT LOL

[real oracle]

you cannot do that

[fiery ingot]

Op10 right?

[wide fog]

funko HATES this simple trick

[rough galleon]

no, mods

[real oracle]

oh right theres also the init def which turns it more into like 80 times health at op10

[fiery ingot]

Oh god lol

[real oracle]

because i can

[fiery ingot]

Probably even get a boss health bar at the top of the screen for Henry

[real oracle]

if i knew how i would

[rough galleon]

Henry the Invincible

[fiery ingot]

TRUE

[rough galleon]

great name

[fiery ingot]

real lmao

[winter python]

What grip is that?

[real oracle]

tediore

[woeful isle]

do i need that dlc in order for me to continue?

[tawdry shell]

the marker is probably just bugged

all dlc missions are tired strictly to their own dlcs

missions never go across other content within the game

[woeful isle]

i hope so! cause i just unlocked thvm

[tawdry shell]

the only thing that’s locked behind that dlc is op levels and the level 80 cap

[woeful isle]

i seem to have a bug of some sort with the Medical Mystery: X-Com-municate in the horns valley. because im there, but no mission indicator? and its my active side mission. or... so it says. whats the deal here?

[tawdry shell]

what’s the mission objective say

[woeful isle]

i dont care about the story mission, as i just completed that as mechro

[woeful isle]

thats the odd part, i cant find anything about that when searching under my active missions

[tawdry shell]

well if you have no missions active then the game is probably just bugging out and not knowing what to give you

i would just get some levels, grab a gun you like, and move on to tvhm

[woeful isle]

here we go with doing lots of sides!

[rough galleon]

@unborn swallow

this is for the Warrior
notice how Min and Max GameStage is always level 50?

the maps prior can be like level 48, 49 etc

[woeful isle]

dont remember if i asked this before. but how/when do i open this? that is... if its even possible!

[rough galleon]

its after a side quest: The Bearer of Bad News
its post ||Roland's death||

[woeful isle]

hmm ok. seeing that i already have unlocked ||thvm||, i now need to find where that mission

[rough galleon]

Mordicai gives it IIRC

[woeful isle]

thanks!

[spiral pier]

I thought that was the chest you run across the pipes and turn off the remaining switches in the room to unlock

[tawdry shell]

no that's in bloodshot stronghold

[winter python]

Do I take?

[opal ingot]

it'd be preferable if you had jakobs grip

[winter python]

Okay I'll farm for one

Tbh idk what the different parts look like lol

[opal ingot]

?parts

[serene escarp]

Bl1 Part Visual Charts

https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Gun_Component_Charts
BL2 & TPS Parts
https://bl2.parts/

[long solar]

They're level 39 I don't think it's gonna be a worth while difference

[nocturne ruin]

@rough galleon first image is claptrap in BL2, Second is claptrap in TP2, there's that cylinder looking thing in the top left
And that's also where jack shot him

oh yeah and it's also not there in BL1 so it's not something that was there the whole time that jack just shot off

[rough galleon]

HMMMMMMM
have no idea actually

[nocturne ruin]

Maybe something to do with his vault hunter program

[rough galleon]

probs
just odd to just be sticking out like that lol

[nocturne ruin]

It would explain why he only wears it in TPS and why Jack chooses to shoot him right there

[rough galleon]

first glance
looks like a logged bullet or just a random bolt

[nocturne ruin]

Well if it was a random bolt he'd have had it there the whole time

[rough galleon]

yea xd

[silver heath]

😑

Got this before the moonshot somehow

[rough galleon]

unfort

[silver heath]

Facts

[nocturne ruin]

i mean if you dont want it...

(if you picked it up)

[silver heath]

Yea I picked it up cause I’m gibbing that element later 😭

If I feel like it

[lilac wing]

is this a good build so far?

[rough galleon]

unless co-op, I wouldn't spec into I Love You Guys that earlier; Killbot from Boomtrap can be sufficent enough for sustain if you are good at killing

but it works I suppose

tip: HIGH FIVE GUYS! works off enemies meleeing you so you can get the full bonus with the fire rate

[lilac wing]

i know but you would be amazed how stubborn enemies can be about meleeing you even if youre close enoguh to bite their nose hairs

[rough galleon]

yee I know LOL

good thing the buff is 30s

[winter python]

Chat do I take?

[rough galleon]

ye

[modern carbon]

yep

[winter python]

Are the parts good on it?

[copper wasp]

I mean, they aren't amazing but it should work more than well enough for now

[winter python]

I just need it for a better gun than my lvl 39 orphan maker lol

[wheat harbor]

skill issue

[opal ingot]

fym skill issue i literally did it first try

[lofty flame]

of course you did

[opal ingot]

yeah

[leaden stag]

bro really locked in just to climb a ladder

[lofty flame]

this says a lot about society

[long solar]

Yea

This doesn't mean zomers can climb ladders tho

[opal ingot]

go to sleep

[long solar]

No

And holy shit I sound different on video to the voice I hear from myself

[opal ingot]

yes

[long solar]

Nuh uh

(I'm finna go to sleep in like half a hour)

[fiery ingot]

Wild odds lol

[tawdry shell]

peak

[surreal socket]

Nice

[rough galleon]

yeah no clue
that's weird

¯_(ツ)_/¯

there's console things I don't know so I won't pretend to know

[real oracle]

also on an unrelated note i just wanna say micro and i are nothing alike

[long solar]

Is this a good bearcat?

[opal ingot]

yes

[copper wasp]

Relatively speaking it's alright, but even a perfectly-rolled Bearcat is still only good for being sold to vendors

[long solar]

But Krieg

[opal ingot]

parts wise not really

[copper wasp]

Even on Krieg it’s only good for being sold

[wheat harbor]

theres like
no reason to really use it over a grenadier

it shoots 3x per shot basically
but then because of the pattern youre likely to just waste the extra ones

[leaden stag]

viable cash after being sold

[wheat harbor]

its not a skill issue
its just the pattern

really depends on the enemy

bigger enemies its good
skinny enemies its a pita

tf you mean investment?

im talkijg about the firing pattern and it shooting to the side of enemies?

ah yes let me move my mouse to change how the gun shoots

and if theres no wall?

they dont explode on hitting a wall either so

the point is that the pattern makes it hard to hit enemies with all the grenades

compared to a regular grenadier which is generally more consistent

especially on krieg who has insane fire rate, reload speed and mag size

how often do you compare it to a regular grenadier

[lofty flame]

with the same investment you'd put on the Bearcat you could just use something else and it'd be 100x better

but if you like the bearcat then use it ig

[wheat harbor]

i also never screamed its bad? just its kinda situational

it does more but you never used the regular to test it

oh huh
bearcat is actually more anmo efficient

x3 ammo for x2 shot cost

im mistaken

its
fine?

theres still a better dahl ar (minigun)

so?

[lofty flame]

just throw a grenade

[wheat harbor]

just use grenade or launcher

[lofty flame]

krieg gets like a bajillion of them

[wheat harbor]

you have like uh
14 seconds

[lofty flame]

just use another?

[wheat harbor]

wut

the beam should deal grenade damage?

they do in fact deal grenade damage so

iunno
maybe the dot killed

[opal ingot]

dizzy you said you were going to bed

[wheat harbor]

skill issue or console thing

console version of bl2 is famously... weird

i mean yea there isnt really spaghetti
99% of the time when people call something spaghetti its just their own lack of understanding as to how the game works but then the actual functionality is entirely logical

lmao

[wheat harbor]

stuff like DT having a completely different damage formula

deleting bar can only be a good thing

[opal ingot]

wdym
you don't need to do anything special for it
you just
save quit

[long solar]

Spiderants don't spawn Mr can't climb ladders

[wheat harbor]

for some reason console bl2 is a completely different code base or something

well maybe not code base but uh
whatever you call the udk enviroment

its uh
not spaghetti
its just set up differently

gearbox: sets a value to 12 instead of 10
“this is clearly spaghetti code”

no one knows
they just uh, made it do that

its just coded differently

probably different teams of people working on console vs pc

so things got miscommunicated

[long solar]

Carnage goated on Krieg

Idk because I couldn't get stacks for bloodbath

Low-key wanna play gaige

Can definitely work

[opal ingot]

dot krieg

[long solar]

Gaige got 240% melee damage in her trees

Aka just anarchy stacks

[wheat harbor]

peak opener sucks mega ass cheeks

nah i just hate thr gun

and say usijg it to take on peak is cheating

i mean
the relic is explicitly called the easy mode

PO is just so dumb even without the shield

does optional hard content
uses powercrept gear to make it easy
tf was the point

eh

its still nutty

its a kerblaster on steroids and in a better element

maybe you just suck at usijg it

[lofty flame]

this is another case of it not fitting your playstyle

[long solar]

I'm probably gonna switch to gaige

[wheat harbor]

PO has higher damage, fire rate, costs less per shot, splits into 3

no

4 vs 6

no its 6

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/5ff36780a1084987868ce198/64f742624ef0ac1ec09dab84_Bearcat (AR-BL2).webp

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/5ff36780a1084987868ce198/64f78c71d6bfb3c208bda7f2_Peak Opener (AR-BL2).webp

grenadiers are 3

[lofty flame]

bearcat also fires much slower, expecially on ads

[wheat harbor]

po damage is significantly higher

[lofty flame]

since PO gets increased fire rate on ads

[wheat harbor]

and burst fucks up fire rate boosts which krieg has lots of

[lofty flame]

even without it

5.4 vs 3.6

[wheat harbor]

no

[long solar]

Remember peak opener is two elements and drops child grenades

[lofty flame]

did you also count the mini grenades

[wheat harbor]

peak opener makes 3 child grenades

skill issue

[long solar]

Tbf they were more consistent than bearcat from when I used it

[lofty flame]

aim better

[long solar]

Ar

[wheat harbor]

so then
it doesnt even matter?

you killed sith less ammo used

saying theyre already dead isnt a dunk

po shoots faster

also
you can switch targets before its dead?

take advantage of thr child grenades

[long solar]

Tbf I only got about 50-70 bl stacks for bloodbath for Po and it felt better to use it's just brain turn off and shoot enemy

[wheat harbor]

let the child grenades finish the enemy off and switch to a new one faster

[lofty flame]

when i played i just didnt pay any attention to stacks and shit just died

[wheat harbor]

krieg basicslly never needs to pay attention to stacks

bloodlust stacks are a joke

[lofty flame]

since you get them by just playing the game

[wheat harbor]

theyre stupid easy to get and drain so slowly

[long solar]

Coop is rather annoying to stack in

But yea once max stacks brain turn off

[lofty flame]

if you count all 3 projectiles hitting on BC you should also count the child nades on PO

[long solar]

Bearcat also killed me more so like

Bearcat Is only instant on impact

[wheat harbor]

youre still ignoring the child grenades

[lofty flame]

and on thiner targets you dont impact all 3 that often

[wheat harbor]

so
po is better

you csnt just disregard the child grenades cause the enemy already died

youre playing badly if they are

shooting too much

so
the enemy dies faster with the po
but its worse?

you change to a new enemy?

you dont sit there twiddling your thumbs

-the cant reader

this is LITERALLY the same logic you had for the Bc

“you cant call it bad when youre usijg it wrong”

[long solar]

With bearcat I overfire by one shot and walk forward go down instantly the PO is fast enough to where that explosion doesn't always kill me

Thas all I'm saying

[wheat harbor]

-cant read

“PO too good and kills the enemy faster than the child grenades therefore i can ignore them when calculating thr damage”

brilliant logic

no
bearcat literally does less damage

you just cant use the PO right

try changing your playstyle to make it work

[long solar]

[lofty flame]

[wheat harbor]

(2245071×4×5.4) > (1384516×3×3.6)

hard maths

[lofty flame]

thanks for saving me the trouble

[wheat harbor]

throws logic back at them
um get blocked

[lofty flame]

so true

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

lmao ur just being dumb

switch targets before they die
let the child grenades finish them off

“i refuse to use a unique weapon in the unique way its designed so ill call it bad”

if youre mobbing theres multiple mobs to shoot at
dont kill them onr at a time with the peak opener or kerblaster
you switch before the kill

[lofty flame]

never seen an enemy dodge PO grenades but okay

[wheat harbor]

enemies dont roll from po children so point invalid

snd any missed bearcat projectiles have the same issue of just being landmines waiting for you

.

sick logic

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

lmao

clesrly a mature and well adjusted individual

[lofty flame]

:spoingle:

[long solar]

This emoji fiya

[wheat harbor]

hard to do maths when you makeup numbers

“um you see if you simply change the numbers then its worse”

saying then PO is x1 and ignoring the child grenades

i could just ignore the bearcat side projectiles because i find they miss

(2245071×1×5.4) > (1384516×1×3.6)

same could be said for bearcats extra projectiles

no they dont

so therefore bearcat bad

says the one thst cant use the lyuda

one of the highest dps guns but more crit and 3x bullets
definitely sucks

methinks you suck at aiming

youre claiming a weapon is bad when you cant use it

again

which was your whole thing defending the bearcat

except you cant use the peak opener or lyuda

you clearly cant

it doesnt

mathematically its better

mobbing its better if you adjusted how you play to suit thr gun

exact same logic as the bc

same could be said for the bearcat

no thats just using it correctly

and ya know
spend less time reloading

bc has a smaller mag, consumes more ammo, and longer reload time

its really not

it wont be 200 on each

youre multiplying both by the same amount

PO will always be higher

youre not even calculating dps

[sullen girder]

Heya, I got the literal god roll Bearcat on Op10.

It still fucking sucked on an Axton who had mostly optimized dps.

[wheat harbor]

(also PO slaps even harder on tricycle krieg)

where bearcat loses out because its rocket damage

[lofty flame]

It'd be easier to just pull up a side by side video of both in the exact same situation

With same parts and the same specs

[wheat harbor]

just stand back?

[sullen girder]

Po bullets are insanely fast. Just. Shoot at a distance

[wheat harbor]

the gun has good accuracy

[sullen girder]

Bearcat needs to be close because of its bouncing projectiles

[wheat harbor]

again
if the Po is killing you
thats a skill issue

[sullen girder]

????

Their arc is shit. Do you expect me to barrel stuff?

?????

You're on crack or something. But Hail and Fibber can actually do damage despite their weird aiming properties.

Bearcat just sucks in addition to that

[lofty flame]

Or you could just use a better gun that requires none of that 👍

[sullen girder]

Whereas Peak Opener you can just. Stand at a distance and aim at their feet and they explode. Much easier, much more damage

Are you also accounting for the 3 child nades that every single gyro spawns?

[lofty flame]

Distance doesn't mean 500m away

[harsh plover]

🍿

[sullen girder]

Hey Exo

[long solar]

[lofty flame]

Basically from the dahl abandon fast travel to the firs enemy spawn near the loot midget farm is "at distance"

[maiden horizon]

[harsh plover]

👋

[lofty flame]

The kompert

[maiden horizon]

holy shit is that the cornsumer

[lofty flame]

No way!1!1!1!1!1111!

[long solar]

No it's actually

[maiden horizon]

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

they sre not
becsuse the enemy dies before the child grenades do snything

[sullen girder]

I forget. Is Po 1 or 4 ammo per shot

Either way its damage per ammo is leagues better than Bearcats

[long solar]

4

[lofty flame]

4

[wheat harbor]

right click
remove from channel list

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-z-move-pikachu-bye-bye-gif-8024386547214642193

[sullen girder]

No I didn't

Its damage on 1 shot per 4 ammo is better than Bearcats 1 shot per 6 ammo.

Fine damage per shot

Which is very high since their spread isn't much

And like Zeta said. The main gyros typically kill before the child nades even have a chance to explode. Since high damage and insane rof

[rough galleon]

That was you chuckle nut

[sullen girder]

Because PO gets a fire rate bonus when you ADS for some reason

[rough galleon]

You said an OP9 Infinity with no elements is better than an OP10 Shock Lyuda

[lofty flame]

Because it wasnt overtuned enough

[wheat harbor]

are you using the bee or somethin

[sullen girder]

Lyuda which has the 2nd highest dps in the game

[lofty flame]

Proof that you know nothing about the game :)

[rough galleon]

#borderlands-2 message

Sure but its not even true lol

[rough galleon]

I think they arent using their brain

Yah man sure

Just look at the dmg numbers and fire rate

[lofty flame]

And also crit damage

And x3 projectiles

[rough galleon]

And elemental buff lol

[sullen girder]

And Bone of the ancients

[rough galleon]

But clearly infinity and bearcat is better cuz i said so

What sound logic

[sullen girder]

Also Lyuda being a better bee user since it has 2 unlisted projectiles so all 3 get max amp damage. So theres another point, weak one, but still

[lofty flame]

Taking your own advice is cool :)

[sullen girder]

Wait you said "If a gun needs Slag its bad"????

[rough galleon]

Dizzy just doesnt do math and doesnt know how bl2 works
Simple as

[wheat harbor]

wait i typed that wrong

[sullen girder]

my guy, bl2 end game fucking sucks. Slag is pretty much a necessity since its a x3 damage multiplier

[wheat harbor]

sick

that is not equivalent

[lofty flame]

Bl2 isnt bl2

Wait

[wheat harbor]

thats like saying if a gun doesnt work on a no skillpoint build its a bad gun

[rough galleon]

Lol

[lofty flame]

Bl2 isnt bl3 is what i was meant to type

[wheat harbor]

slag is part of uvhm
you can ignore it if you want
but you csnt judge weapons without it

except uvhm is literslly balanced around using slag

[lofty flame]

The game was kinda designed with slag in mind wasn't it

[rough galleon]

I mean
You can
Just will be 3x less effective lol

[wheat harbor]

yea

its just not reasonable to say a gun sucks when intentionally making it worse

[sullen girder]

So. Don't talk about the strength of stuff without considering the balance of the game?

[wheat harbor]

.

[sullen girder]

Uvhm gives you an inherent swap speed boost
slag grenades exist

[lofty flame]

Except all characters get some sort of swap speed or alternative ways to slag?

[sullen girder]

And that.

Well. Except Gaige since her slag skill sucks

[verbal lava]

it's actually great because it can crash your game and you don't have to play this trash heap with the most dense players

[lofty flame]

Thats so real hypergrad the 22nd

[wheat harbor]

situationally no because of uvhm enemy health regen

there is an explicit dps check

[sullen girder]

Also multipliers on multipliers

An NE gun shooting a slagged target will inherently get less of a bonus compared to a Fire Gun

[wheat harbor]

its more how it deals with down time

3x damage might push the gun to kill with a single mag

meaning the health regen is negatwd

but because you cant kill in the single mag, the gun is doing a LOT worse

its more complicated than just 3x damage becuase you dont shoot a constant beam of damage

[sullen girder]

And nuking everything in a single action isn't really possible unlike what I assume Bl3 can do

[lofty flame]

Not the same

[sullen girder]

Single action means like. One shotting stuff or the goddamn fish

[long solar]

Fish is the strongest item in bl history

[wheat harbor]

PO is still so much better with krieg specced out

ignore the child grenades and its still better

it literwlly is and i just explained why

if the 3x damage makes it a one clip kill, the guns performance drastically changes

so you gave up 👍

wut?
that is the opposite of what i was talking about

the fuck is a theist

[long solar]

I don't know why but for me personally the Lyuda just feels ass to use I know the guns pretty good

[wheat harbor]

its kinda wonky as hell in mobbing

stupid for big enemies

[long solar]

It just feels weird to use

[wheat harbor]

snowman melter 2000

[long solar]

Alot of things melt snowman

[sullen girder]

Loaders being a prime target for Lyuda. Liked using that in wildlife a lot

[wheat harbor]

its funny how thr lyuda and veruc are together

like the same gun

[long solar]

Two goated guns

[sullen girder]

I like Dahl Etech ARs more than Veruc tbh

[long solar]

Bl3 Lyuda just feels better than bl2's

[sullen girder]

No clue whats more optimal. Etech Dahl ARs just feel better

[long solar]

But that's me personally

[wheat harbor]

i just dont like snipers in general for 2

[rough galleon]

bl3 just feels better than bl2*

[wheat harbor]

bl3 kinda fixed snipers for me by making em long ARs

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

i always enjoyed em on gaige
even tho its kinda
inconsequential
just feels good

[lofty flame]

Yeah like the bearcat

[sullen girder]

The issue comes when you try to say something is just. Factually more optimal

[wheat harbor]

-the one raving over mid gear

the fuck is a white death

mfers out here deadnaming my guns

[sullen girder]

Xbox 360 name for the Lyuda

[lofty flame]

Lyuda on the og 360

[wheat harbor]

i know

people who still call it the white death are weirdos

[sullen girder]

But saying a gun with the 2nd highest dps in the game

Is bad

Is just factually incorrect

It can feel bad to use. But saying it doesn't do damage. Thats the issue

[long solar]

I find it bad because I don't like the way it feels that's my only reason even tho I know it's a good gun

Simple reason for me

[lofty flame]

The particular situation is clicking on the enemy's head (at least in bl2)

[wheat harbor]

its still an objectively better droog even without thr split

because of crit

so its an easier to farm droog thats just
better

droogs are fucking disgusting as long as you ads

[long solar]

Moloko goated (I don't even know if I spelt it right)

[lofty flame]

You did

[wheat harbor]

so get a lyuda with a low zoom scope and win

[lofty flame]

Hitting crits is not common?

[wheat harbor]

droogs are insanely good, split or not lyuda is one of the best guns in 2

[long solar]

I don't get it moloko feels great Lyuda doesn't to me

[wheat harbor]

are you trying to optimise the split on thr lyuda always?

because
you dont have to

[long solar]

No I kinda just shoot gun at crit spot

[trim hinge]

the lyuda is just a better droog

[wheat harbor]

its straight up a dps increase split or not

[trim hinge]

so just hitting a single pellet will be more anyways

[wheat harbor]

it is

[trim hinge]

the droog is better than the moloko lmao

[wheat harbor]

droogs are objectively insanely good

[lofty flame]

Droog is like the best non unique sniper or at least one of

[trim hinge]

i mean ur wrong

but go spit ur shit gamer

[lofty flame]

You have already proven that that doesnt mean much

[wheat harbor]

the only character the droogs fall off on is maya cause crit stacking

but maya fell off from the start

[long solar]

Imagine if bore worked on like everything properly

[lofty flame]

Just say you dont like playing bl2 like its bl2

[wheat harbor]

why are you stressing about ammo

open a chest?

[trim hinge]

uh huh

[wheat harbor]

put a non sniper in one of your other 3 slots

yes
always should

[sullen girder]

YES????

[long solar]

I do

[sullen girder]

ITS A CORE MECHANIC???

[lofty flame]

They're not for show

[wheat harbor]

this explains
so much

thats so telling

[trim hinge]

i usually have a healing gun, slag weapon , ffyl gun and then actual damage gun

[long solar]

I use dpad to change around guns it's easier and I've just got used to it

[trim hinge]

usually grog, slagga, norfleet, lyuda

[sullen girder]

"I want to optimize everything"

proceeds to ignore 2 major parts of optimizing

[trim hinge]

works pretty well

[lofty flame]

Grog :despair:

[wheat harbor]

mods can we cancel vi

grog AND norfleet

[trim hinge]

its my op10 peak loadout smh

[long solar]

Depends on character what loadout tbf

[wheat harbor]

i thought u were cool…

[long solar]

Yes we can cancel vi (I'm definitely a mod)

[wheat harbor]

kraig moment

[trim hinge]

i always use quasar

that nade is peak

[wheat harbor]

im like
close gun
distance gun
maybe slag gun
other gun i want?

[long solar]

For me it's just like if that shit rocks I use it

[lofty flame]

I just go
Gun i like
Gun i like
Gun i like
Gun i like

[wheat harbor]

cooking

[long solar]

Tru

[sullen girder]

I'd use it more if it wasn't a pain in the ass to get

[trim hinge]

usually i go pimpernel over lyuda on gaige but thats just because

[wheat harbor]

bl3 is one gun wonder

[trim hinge]

pimp on gaige is insane

altho pimp is just insane on its on

[lofty flame]

Pimped out gaige?????

[wheat harbor]

thats illegal…

[trim hinge]

no cap no kizzy

[long solar]

For me it's 2 guns for literally one save

[sullen girder]

I like using Pimp on Axton as my slagging gun. Feels nice, especially since sometimes it also just. Kills?

[wheat harbor]

bl3 could remove 2 slots and most people wouldnt notice

[long solar]

Swap away swap back

[long solar]

I definitely would

[sullen girder]

Also 10/5 expertise my beloved

[long solar]

I need all four slots usually

[wheat harbor]

what kinda splssh it got

complains about running out of ammo

[trim hinge]

the hypocrisy is killing me

[sullen girder]

"50% Splash Damage (gets Reaper Buff, but no Grenade Damage Buff)"
-Lootlemon

Huh.

Pimp doesn't get. Nade boosts

[wheat harbor]

so its bullet splash

same as other maliwan snipers

[lofty flame]

Assuming those enemies dont drop any

[trim hinge]

the weighted ammo drops in question

[lofty flame]

Thats what am sayyyyyin

[long solar]

Doesn't every bl game have weighted ammo drops

[trim hinge]

weighted ammo drops in bl2 are kinda busted actually

bl3 does

you just dont notice since ammo is just not a problem in that game

[long solar]

Opens ammo chest on low ar ammo and gets nothing but ar ammo

[wheat harbor]

3 its messed up cause afaik health is in the same pool

[long solar]

Why

[trim hinge]

it is yeah lmao

[long solar]

Just why

[trim hinge]

funny af

[wheat harbor]

gearboogers

deathless means all health no ammo

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

yeah by using shit guns like the tizzy

[long solar]

I wanna make a grav trap fl4

[trim hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/money-cat-gif-24743516

[wheat harbor]

lmao i knew it

bl2 weighted drops are insane tho

[long solar]

That's literally it

[wheat harbor]

basicslly guarenteed as soon ss you go under 40

[trim hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[wheat harbor]

idk why they didnt just make the ammo weights linearly scale from 100 to 0

[trim hinge]

thats debatable

[wheat harbor]

i have insane takes too
just better at defending em

and dont block when mathematically corrected

[tall surge]

your takes are just straight up bad

Unlike zeta's takes which are bad but they use fancy words

[long solar]

Even tho this isn't bl3 chat you guys got any ammo heavy guns I could use on grav trap fl4 cuz I wanna make one that uses forge

[tall surge]

did i ever say that? are you saying something i didnt?

damn, thats surprising

you were complaining about that a minute ago

thank you

im really glad you dont

[tall surge]

on god!

bro really thought they were cooking

[long solar]

This is so entertaining at 4 am when I'm half awake

[sullen girder]

So much for "thats enough discord for today"

[trim hinge]

interesting

[long solar]

Triple o is gonna be a pain the ass to farm if I switch to gaige and want a twister

[tall surge]

you can think whatever you want

doesnt change reality, unfortunately

[long solar]

It doesn't

[trim hinge]

itdoesnt really

just ammo hungry

[long solar]

We just got bad parts

[trim hinge]

which something something we've had this convo before

[long solar]

It's good without it

It is Krieg mostly isn't the best with it

[trim hinge]

thats cuz krieg sucks

[long solar]

Tru

[trim hinge]

nah

he sucks design wise

[long solar]

I mean like elemental debuff so

Just give a psycho the strongest skill in the game cuz idk why not

[lofty flame]

I wonder where ive seen that same phrase being said

[tall surge]

bl players when stacking character that has all of their damage stapled into 1 skill vs stacking character that has all of their damage stapled into 1 skill (one is perfect and the other sucks)

[wheat harbor]

toothpick sucks ass

[trim hinge]

gaige perfect and krieg sucks

[rough galleon]

Kreig and Gaige vs everyone else basically?

[trim hinge]

i agree

[tall surge]

sounds like something id read on the bl2 subreddit for sure

[lofty flame]

Real

[rough galleon]

i guess Krieg has more dmg buffs off Blood Bath tho

[trim hinge]

she was the r/bl2 demon

[wheat harbor]

rap is a bl subreddit microcelebrity

i wish we still has that one post that was just ass kissing me rap and gadget
was so fucking funny

[tall surge]

TRUE

[wheat harbor]

also crapoulas was peak

[tall surge]

goated post

[rough galleon]

you can find people on discord are beneficial to your life?

[trim hinge]

rapoulas more like (c)rapoulas

[rough galleon]

people are just talking about video games here lol

[trim hinge]

discord just isnt beneficial for your life

that is true

[long solar]

I mean with total buffs maybe but gaige has higher gun damage increase

[rough galleon]

the most benefit I got from discord was making friends but thats basically any means of communication

[wheat harbor]

GAY PEOPLE

[lofty flame]

I tried finding that one to no avail :(

[tall surge]

i should find the post that got me banned

that one was pretty good

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

ye

damage sources be like that

wut

what does thst even mean

[tall surge]

maybe they think you can do the pimpernel thing with logan's gun?

[long solar]

[wheat harbor]

oh lol

no
you cannot

[tall surge]

yeah not how that works

[wheat harbor]

thats not
not how things work

[lofty flame]

Also the one "disproving" your axton build

[wheat harbor]

not that differently

rocket damage has nothing to do with launchers

[long solar]

I don't think Its that different

[tall surge]

disproving that in fact, you cant actually get 80/5 in grit...

[long solar]

Why not

[wheat harbor]

what if you tried REALLY hard

[lofty flame]

Have you tried pressing the button REEEEEALLY hard

[tall surge]

maybe...

[wheat harbor]

launchers do rocket damage

rocket damage is rocket damage

most pure splash from guns is rocket

[long solar]

I've got 1270/5 grit I pushed button hard

[wheat harbor]

what rocket damsge?

[lofty flame]

Wowzers

[wheat harbor]

the game has no rocket damage boosts

[long solar]

Death never scares me

[tall surge]

if gun damage deal gun damage, why cant i just swap my lvl 1 starter pistol with an op10 jakobs sniper and get a gorillion damage?

[wheat harbor]

well
desthmark is kinda rocket damage
makes enemies take rocket damage

[long solar]

Wonder how grit would work in bl3 with death skulls

[wheat harbor]

why would a gun boost your rocket damage

[lofty flame]

Oop

So theres that

[tall surge]

[long solar]

Truly one of them moments

But anyways I still wonder how would death skulls from bl3 work with grit

[trim hinge]

they would probably ignore it

if I was a game developer

[lofty flame]

Well are you?????

[trim hinge]

mayb....

[wheat harbor]

logicslly they would

[rough galleon]

considering it goes through one shot protection
i would assume the same as Vi

no Tougher Times
no funny 😦

[wheat harbor]

eehhh
osp is applied to damage itself
while grit would be handled in the kill stuff

[long solar]

It'd be really funny if grit just said nah to death

[rough galleon]

i mean
it does to a vast majority of lethal situations lol

[long solar]

Grit is such a peak skill

[trim hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[rough galleon]

i had it proc 12 times during Vora

my friend had a recording of it proccing 16 times

idk if he still has it but the DONG sound was beautiful

[wheat harbor]

i kinda… hate grit
purely because its rng on axton

axton shouldnt be rng imo

[long solar]

Just wondering I don't see it used but why not pointman for hyperis reflection kill

[tall surge]

id use it more if it was on a cooldown

and guaranteed

[wheat harbor]

u should play vzeta!

[long solar]

It's funny to me you either say no or don't

[wheat harbor]

hm?

[long solar]

You either just say no to death or fall into ffyl

[wheat harbor]

its such a good change tho and makes grit infinitely better

[long solar]

Grit has saved me so many times

I'm thinking about switching to gaige from Krieg idk if it's worth it tho

[tall surge]

I DID!!! A LOT!!!

ill play it again whenever you update it

[wheat harbor]

and i very much appreciate it :3c

[wheat harbor]

whats first
bl4 or vzeta

the sdk already beat me
so thats apple 1 me 0

[long solar]

If I get good PC I'm gonna like only play bl2 with overhaul mods

[trim hinge]

we got bl4 before the vzeta update

[lofty flame]

Does the endgame suck?

[wheat harbor]

not even final releasw
just me updating it

[long solar]

It's bl2 so yea

[lofty flame]

Real!!!

[rough galleon]

idk
ive heard good things of modded bl2

[wheat harbor]

transitioning to the new sdk has been going real smoothly tho

code is so much cleaner

[rough galleon]

then again
it takes out usually what makes bl2 bad lol

[trim hinge]

it was actually my fav way to play bl2

vzeta is very good

[long solar]

I've heard ffyllands is pretty peak

[lofty flame]

I mean in the bl4 part

[trim hinge]

mmmmmm

iono

☠️

[lofty flame]

I trust zeta's capabilities to unfuck bl2

[long solar]

[trim hinge]

I've heard the opposite

[wheat harbor]

vzeta is transgenner confirmed

[rough galleon]

every part has a micro part that has 3 random stats that alter in value

[long solar]

By heard I mean watched playthroughs of it and it looks pretty peak

Looks actually fun

[rough galleon]

but your guns always scales with you and the enemies like Destiny

[long solar]

What if op10 at level one

[trim hinge]

peak mentioned

[long solar]

Like digistruct peak?!!!!

[tall surge]

the apple doesnt fall far from the tree

[rough galleon]

yo like...

[trim hinge]

like the

the peak

from

borders

[long solar]

If lands

[rough galleon]

what if the border was the lands we made along the way?

[long solar]

What if lands was the borders we developed along the way

[trim hinge]

she border my lands

till i

2

[long solar]

I should probably sleep it's almost 5 am

[trim hinge]

gn banky

[long solar]

Gn people's

[rough galleon]

yall were still yapping when I slept lol

night Banky

[long solar]

Nighty night people

[wheat harbor]

kiwi spotted

[trim hinge]

[calm sequoia]

[long solar]

Anyways I'm actually off to sleep

My phone's on 2%

[lofty flame]

What are YOU doing down here

[calm sequoia]

ahaaaaaa you know meeeeee im everywhereeeeeeeee hehe

[lofty flame]

[calm sequoia]

[tall surge]

-kiwi

[wheat harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hypnotizing-hypnotizing-dog-hyptonizing-you-hypnotizing-you-собака-гипнотизирует-gif-14437882061713379771
me enchantijg you with fancy words

[tall surge]

me creating sillier and sillier vocabulary everyday so you start using the words aswell

mega puppydog gonga

[wheat harbor]

truuu

[real oracle]

zeta

enemies already take rocket damage

[leaden stag]

rocketu

I felt my message would be silly but then I scrolled up

[wheat harbor]

amh u know what i mean
take more
typo

[rare quiver]

am I doing good?

[glass vessel]

Peak

But maybe switch weapons more on your way up couldn’t hurt

[rare quiver]

I have to do something when moving from point a to point b

Restless gamer hands

[hybrid steppe]

The bee crunch is nice.. too bad Duality is blasting so much I can’t hear all of it but good job 👍🏻

[long solar]

I can switch weapons even faster

[glass vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/atrain-a-train-backkeks-my-honest-reaction-reaction-gif-16395333904373714249

[long solar]

Definitely bl1-2-tps related

[glass vessel]

MODS BAN THESE USERS

[long solar]

Your getting banned aswell in that case

[glass vessel]

[lilac wing]

i need help with my build, uvhm is rough, using ucp

[rough galleon]

skill wise, I have no idea what UCP changes but "Kick Him While He's Down" is better for multiplayer and "I Am Rubber, You Are Glue" doesn't provide much in the base game

both action packages are horrible

you could invest less into the "I Love You Guys!" tree to get more into Boomtrap; getting the pirate ship action package is a major boost to dmg on top of the reload and fire rate the lower your hp gets
plus "One Last Thing" is one of Fragtrap's strongest skills

since you have points in Maniacal Laughter, you could opt to use an AoE nade over the transfusion to increase the regen stacks to a point where it can heal as much as transfusion but the whole loop with Fragtrap is to kill for healing nova procs and use your action skill if you're at critical to full heal

[lilac wing]

Do you have any recommendations for guns?

[silver heath]

Look up some vids on yt

[long solar]

Check the pins for the guides on the character your using they usually have recommended weapons for the character of choice

[lofty flame]

the pins in #borderlands-2 specifically

[long solar]

Forgor

[ivory pewter]

Will the pins in Bl2 help much with Claptrap, lol

[long solar]

Well I didn't even realize so that's on corn

[lofty flame]

me when i forget the context

[ivory pewter]

[long solar]

[rough galleon]

Outside of subroutines
High dmg weapons with good reload speed does better with Boomtrap and anything with elemental DoT does better for maniacal laughter

Personally a fan of shotguns when playing fragtrap; preference usually goes like torgue pistol, jakob shotgun, elemental beam etc

With subroutine uhhhh, Fragtrap uses everything LOL
Minac Atonement and Boomacorn covers almost/does every elemental dmg

[lofty flame]

Moonface Claptrap 😋

[fiery ingot]

Finally got this yesterday! The 2 rainbow skins for vehicles are so clean. 🌈

[rough galleon]

yosh

[toxic cosmos]

Damn happened 3 times now

[spiral pier]

It kept happening to me last night also until I finally gave up and didn't get back on.

Kept telling me I had no memory left basically

[tall surge]

do you have physx on

that consumes lots of memory so makes your game run out of it quickly

[toxic cosmos]

Fixed after i resetted the mission in gibbed

that part is starting to annoy me just wont discover it

[rough galleon]

might be Evie's Camp? try to find a little car chest North side

[toxic cosmos]

Its discovered after the buzzards got he supplies ._.

[rough galleon]

oh xd

[lilac wing]

Im thinking Maggie, MALIWAN cryo beam or pew pew pew, matching grip purple Jacobs quad, a hail private Tom or shredifier, and a longbow zero fuse storm front and pandemic