God forbid a company advertise their own game
#bl1-2-tps-media
tall surge
hard night
that's just advertising. the same happens when you boot up BL1, TPS and the other games too
late tangle
it is advertising, shameless advertising
oh i forgot that discord absolutely fucked the file size limit so there's pretty much 0 way to send clips now, that's a shame
late tangle
it's just ugly and unnecessary
not to mention we know next to nothing about the game so why would i wishlist it?
sullen girder
Its been going on for 5 years.
late tangle
i wasn't happy about it 5 years ago either
sullen girder
Okay? Its not going anywhere. If ya wanna complain, complain on the gearbox forums or smth
late tangle
i mean if ucp updates it will be going away
people modding out the bl3 ads should've been telling enough
sullen girder
They did actually try to remove the advert banners
It just uh, bricked Bl2, TPS, and BL1E
late tangle
i'm just surprised you guys are so eager to defend this sort of behavior even though you guys are in no way beneficiaries of it
tall surge
Why do people care so much about an ad in a menu they stay half a second in
late tangle
because it's shameless and unnecessary, like i said
tall surge
i'm just surprised you guys are so eager to defend this sort of behavior even th...
No i just dont give a fuck and find it funny seeing people make a fuss about it
sullen girder
It just uh, bricked Bl2, TPS, and BL1E
I would rather have the ad that i barely look at over the game not functioning
late tangle
we shouldn't have to choose between those 2 options
sullen girder
Its gearbox
tall surge
Well its gearbox so boo womp
late tangle
especially when you could just downgrade the game or play on 360 and experience no such thing
sullen girder
They can't code bl2 for shit anymore
tall surge
especially when you could just downgrade the game or play on 360 and experience ...
Do it then
🤷
late tangle
again, eager to defend something that in no way benefits you
sullen girder
And it in no way harms you either
serene escarpBOT
If you’re a Borderlands player then odds are you don’t know how to read this.
late tangle
why would people being upset over something in turn make you upset
lofty flame
Its just a rectangle why do you care so much about it
late tangle
its the principle of it
tall surge
why would people being upset over something in turn make you upset
? What
sullen girder
They're using their own product to advertise their other product
lofty flame
Its a company doing company things
sullen girder
They have the rights to do that
late tangle
sometimes i wonder...
lofty flame
Wonder like wonderlands yoooooooo
tall surge
sometimes i wonder...
Ohhh i love vagueposting makes me seem so mysterious and smart
lofty flame
In this server??????
tall surge
in THIS economy
tawdry shell
sometimes i wonder...
and i wonder
if you know
what it means
to find your dreams come true
🗣️🔥🔥🔥
glass vessel
LMFAOOOOO
THIS CONVERSATION
Shameless is a dramedy series on Netflix about a dysfunctional Chicago family and their alcoholic father. The show is based on a British series of the same name
tawdry shell
leaden stag
why are people crying about tiny ads on menu
tawdry shell
i mean it looks odd tbf, but some mods get rid of it without issue i think
i haven’t seen an ad on my game in forever now, i think bl2fix does it? i forget
only other time i’ve played a game that advertised the latest entry was halo
but they did that by just marketing it on the message of the day on the main menu
glass vessel
People wanna stare at the Home Screen for house apparently
ivory pewter
lol
late tangle
very few things are harder than attempting to have meaningful discourse in this server
tawdry shell
i was just saying there is a way to remove it
ivory pewter
With all due respect, there was nothing meaningful about that conversation topic
leaden stag
I mean I get complaining if you get stuffed ads midgame and popups but its literally on the menu for the whole 3 seconds you spend there
rough galleon
Tbf
Some main menu ost is nice to listen to
But uh literally any media sharing site exists for that
rough galleon
again, eager to defend something that in no way benefits you
Also arent you doing the same
Complaining about a thing that in no way really affects the gameplay or content of the game?
Are you really crying over this and thinking its a meaningful convo?
nimble shard
Check out this great TPS mod, guys.
You finally get the full Handsome character.
Skins don't work since this guy doesn't have the mapping, but I guess if you were dedicated enough you could try to get the map and then make the skins yourself
Still, great for those that wanted to play Jack with his BL2 CEO style, not his TPS style
glass vessel
Timothy > Jack
tawdry shell
master chief >
glass vessel
master chief >
long solar
Timothy > Jack
opal ingot
master chief >
bofa >>>>>>
wheat harbor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179247061015728239/1308390102766194688/2024-11-19_22-14-22.mp4?ex=673dc4bd&is=673c733d&hm=58466db4d8a7410ef88164e02e76fa5bd17eaa0dc4b6604d2e8d056c6d5138e6&
bore replacement is kinda working
basically crits cause a nova to damage nearby enemies (but not the original)
opal ingot
ele crit reference (without a dot)
wheat harbor
ele crit reference (without a dot)
isnt elecrit a normal explosion tho?
this wont damage the original target
its pure aoe
frosty merlin
I want another one
trim hinge
its pure aoe
oh thats cool
late tangle
Also arent you doing the same
Complaining about a thing that in no way really af...
point in case
at the very least respect can go both ways, i've came here and directly affronted not one person and you're at least the 3rd person to outright insult me apropos of nothing
late tangle
does it not feel embarrassing to dog on somebody who's not once talked bad about you?
lofty flame
Its not gonna do anyone good to continue with it
late tangle
mutual respect is so simple and easy to have
idk maybe we can all be buddhist and reach enlightenment
tall surge
does it not feel embarrassing to dog on somebody who's not once talked bad about...
Talking bad is when having argument, apparently?
late tangle
i don't follow
tall surge
oh well
late tangle
to say, "stfu", "bro nobody cares", and "you're crying" in my mind are all insults
trim hinge
no one said that lol
tall surge
to say, "stfu", "bro nobody cares", and "you're crying" in my mind are all insul...
Ok can u reply to the exact message those were said in
rough galleon
Eh
Some AI covers are interesting to listen to
Wouldnt say anyone making them are a musician however
glass vessel
I’m mostly just angry cause I know how horrible AI is for the art world
rough galleon
Valid
glass vessel
Ur valid
rough galleon
wheat harbor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjANk3jWWqs
memes go in #claptraps-secret-stash
sullen girder
That shit doesn't even sound like Jack
glass vessel
That shit doesn't even sound like Jack
Real
late tangle
no one said that lol
peak gaslighting
trim hinge
yeah man
sullen girder
Ok can u reply to the exact message those were said in
_ _
rough galleon
I mean, "are you really crying" was mentioned as a question from me
but I rather not continue to meaningless bull lol
trim hinge
understandable
leaden stag
eternal hit his development arc
rough galleon
lol alright
tall surge
dunno why it ignored the guy on the left
he was behind cover
wheat harbor
he was behind cover
the cover of uh
air?
tall surge
yes!1
wheat harbor
i think i know why it bugged, ive got something to fix
wheat harbor
he was behind cover
(i disabled the trace check anyway so itll go through walls)
its funny having a bl skill tree where i actually want every single skill
also this is quite fun for a stalker build
tall surge
also this is quite fun for a stalker build
is that +500% multiplicative with amp shields
wheat harbor
is that +500% multiplicative with amp shields
i forgor
wheat harbor
is that +500% multiplicative with amp shields
it is
tall surge
Sounds funny
wheat harbor
Sounds funny
(the gun has ass cheeks base damage)
so the 500% isnt as high as it seems
idea was like
need to keep your shield up to actually deal damage
and then rewarded for doing so
cunning sable
Why is it shotgun ammo
wheat harbor
Why is it shotgun ammo
smh thats heavy
dupid
cunning sable
Thats not a rocket!!!!!!!!!
long solar
smh thats heavy
dupid
It's shotgun ammo
long solar
Sniper shooting shotgun shells would be silly
wheat harbor
skullmasher
long solar
>skullmasher
That's a multi projectile sniper tho not a sniper shotgun
long solar
That is definitely healthy
real oracle
fr
long solar
fr
Health experts tell you not to do that because they don't want you to discover the way their so healthy
wheat harbor
shooting an entire shotgun shell
fine ill do an x15 jakobs sniper
(itll use rocket ammo)
long solar
fine ill do an x15 jakobs sniper
(itll use rocket ammo)
x50 (make it use two rocket ammo for "balancing")
gilded ruin
gilded ruin
i have no idea what that means
trim hinge
rustlers
gilded ruin
i need a better class mod
i’m currently hunting for a blue monk mod cause i have the purple rn
valid fox
should be usable but a lot of room to optimize
sullen girder
Yeah Purple coms blow (except on Axton)
gilded ruin
you dont need fire rate buffs that much
should i respec?
valid fox
i would yeah
gilded ruin
i would yeah
ight can u tell me what to put points into
valid fox
there are ready builds in the pins of the other chat
valid fox
you copied the build exactly, and even though I personally think one could do even better, it should work as its been tested extensively.
gilded ruin
you copied the build exactly, and even though I personally think one could do ev...
well yea i copied the build exactly im not gonna put my points into something i think is good then have to respec again cause its ass
glass vessel
i have no idea what that means
The parts can affect the quality of gun’s stats
tall surge
well yea i copied the build exactly im not gonna put my points into something i ...
well thats the best way of finding out whats good and what isnt
jolly gale
it's more beneficial to learn the game and it's mechanics via experimenting with skills and gear then to copy a YouTuber build and have 10k fictional money extra
slim fiber
Got an identical gun to the one I just got like ten runs ago.
valid fox
would put those 2 points from no time to bleed into quick draw and hard to kill just to get them to the effective 6/5
also im your huckleberry doesnt do anything for you since it doesnt apply to left hand
double your fun is good dont skip it
stead as she goes doesnt work that great with hyperion weapons in vanilla
wraith token
Well it was I think used to get points down to moneyshot and stuff like that
valid fox
invest 5/5 in quick draw then
wraith token
also, that killed with a fire conference call, which is wild.
crystal imp
2 in the same run
I wonder if the dedicated drops mod increase chances for world drop Pearls
covert mirage
@crystal imp
You playing on pc? I'm doing that on playthrough 1,I'm only lv40 (45?) Would appreciate someone to carry me once I'm lv60
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covert mirage
Im playing lilith,I'm trying to find a hellfire before I can continue (around my level, all has been 3 lower from that claptrap dlc loot chest after the main story)
graceful copper
i cant post it here @rough galleon
fiery grove
?vh
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graceful copper
oo got it
wraith token
would put those 2 points from no time to bleed into quick draw and hard to kill ...
So I will say, those 2 points in no time to bleed were actually crutch when killing hyperius
wraith token
I used it mainly for the hyperius novas
rugged sinew
Yea I don't understand all that, just health bars will show ya
real oracle
that is the number
generated in game, live
the health bar also went down by the same amount
thank you for testing
rugged sinew
The health bar is also a number generated in game :3
real oracle
yes it noticeably went down by the same amount
rugged sinew
Maybe you did it wrong, who knows. I know it went different for me.
real oracle
the cause damage value is slightly different from the hp value taken because of a certain thing in globals reducing self damage
but i assure you, it is unaffected by roid
rough galleon
Heres with pictures!
wheat harbor
@rugged sinew no damage difference
rough galleon
also I used an electric chair to break my shield then just grog nozzle to heal lol
I can even stream the process but I think you can already figure it out
rugged sinew
Hm, maybe it's different with terra shield 🤷♂️ anyway, eh
rough galleon
its not
rugged sinew
If you're on playstation I could give a better dpuh
rough galleon
I can gib one in if you are REALLY wanting to grab on straws
rugged sinew
Bro gibs 😒
rough galleon
If you're on playstation I could give a better dpuh
I did this VH legit with friends except the grog nozzle, I don't usually care for the gear so long as it does the job
real oracle
i'll give it the benefit of the doubt that console is known to have slightly different initdefs used for very specific things
rough galleon
I even named it after my friends I played from lvl 1-OP10 with lol
rugged sinew
i'll give it the benefit of the doubt that console is known to have slightly dif...
Probably
real oracle
and may use GD_Lilac_SkillsBase.Buzzaxe.Init_BuzzaxeMeleeDamage for stv
instead of GD_Lilac_SkillsBase.Buzzaxe.Init_BuzzaxeMeleeDamageBase
rugged sinew
Like that could be it in all honesty, it's an old jank game
rough galleon
the code makes the game ya know
which is why people sought out for it for more clarity on why x does x
rugged sinew
But it could be different for console, who knows.
Haven't done a melee krieg since PS3, but PS5 might be the same and show the shield difference
rough galleon
honestly, it could be coded differently on console
DT is so I wouldn't be surprised if there's nuances like that
rugged sinew
It's possible
real oracle
only thing is that test it in a vacuum better, temporarily swap to a rough rider to break the shield instead of using self damage and not need to heal when you swap back
rough galleon
I wish I thought of that LOL
I didn't even think of using RR to self break shield
rugged sinew
I'm not trying to argue about stuff, just going off of how it worked for me
PC could very well be different
rough galleon
I mean, you were coming off like we were wrong lol
rugged sinew
Oh fun fact, you can cancel the hit on PC by dropping your weapon. Saw that on YouTube
Doesn't work for console 😔
real oracle
but on pc for sure, stv uses this initdef which has nothing for roid
console could very well be using this one
which does have the melee buff and what not
idfk im not on console
rugged sinew
When you see your buzz axe face yourself, drop your weapon and it cancels the self hit
Console can't do that though, but it helps PC krieg
real oracle
but uh
wheat harbor
I'm not trying to argue about stuff, just going off of how it worked for me
id like to see actual proof of it tho
rough galleon
It hasnt hit me as much as people keep crying about it so I never did it
tawdry shell
PS has a clip feature
wheat harbor
Console can't do that though, but it helps PC krieg
it doesnt
real oracle
keep in mind zeta made the tools to straight up evaluate the numbers the game gives you to an error of about a millionth of a percent
rugged sinew
I won't be home for a while
wheat harbor
oh wait cancel it
right
real oracle
yes zeta i tested it 
wheat harbor
yeah theres absolutely differences between console and pc so its possible
rugged sinew
Yeye
wheat harbor
i just wont take anyone's word for it till ive seen proof
real oracle
keep in mind zeta made the tools to straight up evaluate the numbers the game gi...
and if any number deviates by more than a percent, it's being caused by something
for example, the health damage i took is only about 1.2 million
but the damage of the stv hit is 2.5 million
and this is caused by a InstigatedSelfDamageModifier thingy in globals
wheat harbor
keep in mind zeta made the tools to straight up evaluate the numbers the game gi...
(well technically its not really an error, its just float imprecision)
real oracle
which lowers it to uhhh i forgor
wheat harbor
0.1+0.2 is equal to 0.300000000000000000001 in floats
real oracle
true
sometimes numbers deviate by like 3% and thats where the "what the fuck" comes in
but if it's a big deviation, there is a very easy to find cause for it
wheat harbor
ah 0.30000000000000004
real oracle
like when i was calculating vorac hp
it was off by like 5% and
thats because one of the fucking health initdefs has a badass value of 2.56 instead of 2.5
?????????
wheat harbor
reminds me of trying to work out craw drop rates
joltz's pearl shield drop rates is roughly double to what i could figure out
real oracle
and nothing in voracs code points to being a badass
wheat harbor
and i cant come up with a solution
real oracle
but it just is
i had to do so much digging with the help of ose to find this magic number
but i did end up finding the magic slightly-above- 2.5x number
maybe
wheat harbor
oh yeah motor mama was going to be a raid boss too
valid fox
So I will say, those 2 points in no time to bleed were actually crutch when kill...
6/5 hard to kill would give a similar level of health regen whil also boosting max health
wraith token
I mean, sure, but it proved to work last night with hyperius and be just enough.
valid fox
Look you wanted advice and youve got it
Either way a good sal setup can kill hyperius in like 2 frames and do it back to back by entering and exiting the arena
wraith token
Yes, but I’m doing it with the setup I currently have is all.
Is it the most consistent? No. Is it working? Yes.
wheat harbor
6/5 hard to kill would give a similar level of health regen whil also boosting m...
hard to kill is dog shit
0.6% vs 1.6%
valid fox
I mean i disagree especially if were talking putting 1 point om it for an effective 6/5
wheat harbor
thats more than double regen
valid fox
While low health
wheat harbor
yes
valid fox
Average no time to bleed regen would be around 0.8
And with the max health increase htk would be at an effective 0.74
wheat harbor
low health regen good
more quickly puts you back above health gate
valid fox
Also the natural gunzerk regen also hets boosted by the extra max health
wheat harbor
My sal raidbossing build rn
what com aare you using btw?
valid fox
Leg berk it seems
wheat harbor
ah
wraith token
Yes, legend berserker
woven pond
Well that doesn't add up
tall surge
Well that doesn't add up
Id say it does
wheat harbor
bl2 includes 2 games?
what
fiery grove
I think it's showing the price for the handsome collection on all 3
which is why it says it includes 2 games
opal ingot
bl2 includes 2 games?
what
bl2: 2
delicate oasis
delicate oasis
It's what I got, I wasn't trying to get best one, I just needed one to get a job done
delicate oasis
So I was right, good to know
cunning sable
For reference you never want Bandit Pangolin or Tourge parts
The one fixed part you cant change
delicate oasis
I'll probably try and get a better one later
valid fox
Pangoling is good when you want capacity in early to mid game
On specialty shields like the bee however special effect boosts are always the priority
sullen girder
On specialty shields like the bee however special effect boosts are always the p...
Which is the vast majority of shields
delicate oasis
Is it possible to get a worse bee?
cunning sable
Which is the vast majority of shields
Unless you want tankiness
woven pond
bl2 includes 2 games?
what
The point is the BL2 and TPS are both 13.80 each. Yet the handsome collection is 13.80
wheat harbor
The point is the BL2 and TPS are both 13.80 each. Yet the handsome collection i...
yea?
bundles are usually cheaper than the price of the games combined
why else would they make a bundle
woven pond
why else would they make a bundle
BUT I AM AAYING ITS THE SAME PRICE
wheat harbor
yea?
handsome collection is a very good deal
wait
do you own one of the games already
woven pond
wait
do you own one of the games already
I own it on Playstation but not steam. I'm going to be getting a steam gift card soon hopefully and then buying it
wheat harbor
ah
just the price of the handsome collection adjusts based on what you own
wraith token
For reference you never want Bandit Pangolin or Tourge parts
The one fixed part...
Isn’t bandit only good if it’s roid shields potentially?
cunning sable
No, bandit makes roid terrible
wraith token
Ah. What could they potentially be useful on then?
cunning sable
They have
What, high recharge delay?
So taky sheilds, I know some people like triple bandit antagonists
wraith token
So realistically, nothing?
Cause I’ve noticed bandit is awful on most guns unless it’s matching on bandit itself.
cunning sable
On guns?
Bandit Grip is usually a second best imo
The reload takes a bit of a hit but its got a larger mag
wraith token
Fair.
wheat harbor
They have
What, high recharge delay?
So taky sheilds, I know some people like tr...
"high delay"
thhe main penalty is special
cunning sable
Yeah less special for more recharge delay
Was it recharge rate?
wheat harbor
Yeah less special for more recharge delay
Was it recharge rate?
are you saying like
more recharge delay but meaning better delay?
wheat harbor
i just realised you cant tell whats what
wheat harbor
Oh i was wording it wrong?
Yeah i was meaning better delay
more delay is bad yea
you want less
but regardless bandit is bad for roid
rough galleon
yeah that's a really high accuracy for a Jakob shotgun lol
also what the skills looking like?
rough galleon
yeah the skills are fine for accuracy too
I wouldnt get NKLOK cuz shotguns and at least 1 point in Sexual T-Rex since you already have the COM but doesn't really matter too much
real mango
I'll show u mine
gilded ruin
i put on my rpgs and sham for rocket jumping and all of a sudden i’m one shotting enemies???
and legendary berserker
real mango
Troy this is totally up to u and ur own playstyle but my question is why didn't u wait to grt to op10?
gilded ruin
launcher does a lot of dmg
i’m using my orphan maker
real mango
Get*
gilded ruin
why would i rocket jump with on level rpgs.
rough galleon
idk but you said one shotting with rpgs and sham for rocket jumping
so I can only assume you were
gilded ruin
nah i’m one shotting with my orphan maker
rough galleon
so the only change was Legendary Berserker...?
gilded ruin
and sham
rough galleon
Sham does nothing
real mango
nah i’m one shotting with my orphan maker
U 800% crit is transferring onto ur shotgun that's why
gilded ruin
U 800% crit is transferring onto ur shotgun that's why
from what
rough galleon
Lady Fist
rough galleon
well again, it shouldn't have an issue
I dont know why you started one shotting with Leg. Berserker cuz its a straight down grade dmg wise than a CE Monk
but hey, if it works for you, keep doing it
real mango
Orphan maker is op that's why
gilded ruin
well again, it shouldn't have an issue
I dont know why you started one shotting ...
well i’m not using a chaotic evil lmfao
rough galleon
Orphan maker is op that's why
they were struggling before and after equipping Leg. Berserker, they arent
OM was apart of each build
gilded ruin
well i’m not using a chaotic evil lmfao
i could only get my hands on a chaotic good
gilded ruin
yeah idk
i feel like the money shot wasn’t doing anything till i put the legendary class mod on
rough galleon
should be the opposite since you lost 6 points in Money Shot
gilded ruin
okay so i think i figured something out
gilded ruin
when the orphan maker is in my left hand it doesn’t get the reload speed bonus from the monk
right hand it does
maybe it’s not getting the money shot bonus either?
rough galleon
when the orphan maker is in my left hand it doesn’t get the reload speed bonus f...
from the same Salv. guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fK9w9ZmgSvXl-Dq7ICaxA5rBbX4JYlk6KSAldjTIIyU/edit?tab=t.0
gilded ruin
so does the monk mod only work with main hand deputy?
rough galleon
read it again.
rough galleon
Money Shot's bonus for both hands is based on the mag size of the main hand
so long as the main hand has 12 ammo, both hands get the benefit
so no, it works for both builds
gilded ruin
well the grog has 12 ammo
rough galleon
did it with the CG COM?
real mango
Can u take a video of the accuracy on the practice dummy in sanctuary
gilded ruin
did it with the CG COM?
it doesn’t matter if the mod is off or on it has 12
rough galleon
then yeah, even more confusing why Leg. Berserker would be more dmg for you
gilded ruin
and with the mod the rustlers goes from 4 to 2
rough galleon
cuz like...there really isn't anything it gives either than fire rate lol
10% more crit dmg cuz of Quick Draw? LOL
gilded ruin
i dunno lmao
rough galleon
it shouldn't beat 576% more dmg off the one shot
would if you were using a gun with more than one shot probs tho
rough galleon
and with the mod the rustlers goes from 4 to 2
wait
which mod? CG Monk?
the OM needs to be at least 2 shots/3 ammo in the mag or more in order to activate Money Shot
gilded ruin
wait
which mod? CG Monk?
yes
rough galleon
THATS THE REASON
gilded ruin
?
rough galleon
YOU ARENT EVEN PROCCING MONEY SHOT THEN
gilded ruin
the damage diff btw
rough galleon
Get Neutral LOL
gilded ruin
ur fucking kidding me
are u saying i have to farm for ANOTHER RUSTLERS
rough galleon
BRUH OK THATS WHY
gilded ruin
or is the chaotic good monk just the wrong mod
gilded ruin
also yes i know my aim is ass
rough galleon
I dont know if OM can get more than 2 mag by default
but it might be the play to get Neutral Monk in order to get a 3 mag
but yeah, the reason Leg. Berserker was better cuz...you were actually using Money Shot lol
gilded ruin
I dont know if OM can get more than 2 mag by default
but it might be the play t...
well my OM naturally has 4 mag
rough galleon
your picture says otherwise
gilded ruin
and with berserker goes to 3
rough galleon
well my OM naturally has 4 mag
gilded ruin
yeah well it has 4 when i fire it
rough galleon
and the video shows you having 2 mag too
gilded ruin
wait
i don’t get this
idk how or when but before it said 4
with berserker it goes to 3
with purple evil monk it goes to 2
and with good monk 2
rough galleon
Problem: Your Orphan Maker isn't utilizing Money Shot on a build that's trying to use it
Solution: Get more Magazine to at least have 3 or more
there
gilded ruin
Problem: Your Orphan Maker isn't utilizing Money Shot on a build that's trying t...
and is there a way to do that while getting a 6 money shot bonus?
i fucking knew it wasn’t a skill issue 😭🙏🙏
rough galleon
I said it like twice now...
Neutral Monk COMs is mag size
gilded ruin
I said it like twice now...
Neutral Monk COMs is mag size
ight
gilded ruin
i fucking knew it wasn’t a skill issue 😭🙏🙏
i was just doing it wrong
also is rough rider needed for the build or no
rough galleon
so like CN or True Neutral, stuff like that
see if you have 3 mag and see the difference
gilded ruin
also is rough rider needed for the build or no
cause i like to leave my sham on for rocket jumping
rough galleon
I mean, there's not much other better shields for Salv
you could use a Blockade or Antagonist for defense but Salv is very up close and personal as said before
tho you dont have Inconceivable or Out of Bubblegum so its less important I guess?
if you want to use Sham for rocket jumping
go for it
I just dont recommend it for a be-all-shield since elemental dmg and anything that's not a projectile/bullet will destroy it
gilded ruin
if you want to use Sham for rocket jumping
go for it
I just dont recommend it f...
yeah ik to switch to rough rider for bosses n stuff lol
and mass mobbing
but thank you so much for helping me out with the build 😭😭😭
rough galleon
np
gilded ruin
i normally run thru the forest and get the 2 chests by ellie’s armor place
and get the one near the mines entrance
gilded ruin
mimic chests
yo i just got a lawful good
is that any good?
wait nvm u said neutral
i got a neutral good monk
it doesn’t have money shot tho
wtf
tawdry shell
blue coms usually have 3 different skills it can roll but only 2 at a time
tawdry shell
pretty sure you do
gilded ruin
that’s good for you pal
long solar
Why do I know so much about the one bl game I don't play 
gilded ruin
the real question is why do you play everything but the best game 😭
gilded ruin
how would you know if you don’t play it
long solar
I played the game enough
Bl3 is just straight up better with endgame content
Better dlcs to
gilded ruin
Bl3 is just straight up better with endgame content
now
picture in your head
the story
conpared to bl2 story
long solar
The handsome jack parts cool
That's the only thing that isn't a slog in bl2
Bl3 is alright
Tps has a better story anyways
gilded ruin
The handsome jack parts cool
that is literally the entire game?
gilded ruin
That's the only thing that isn't a slog in bl2
true tbh
long solar
that is literally the entire game?
No it's not
gilded ruin
wdym
long solar
It's barely any parts of the game
long solar
Youve got the final boss opportunity and angel core that's about the only parts truly about jack
Everything else is a absolute slog
gilded ruin
Youve got the final boss opportunity and angel core that's about the only parts ...
the whole game is about killing jack 😭
gilded ruin
Everything else is a absolute slog
true tho
long solar
the whole game is about killing jack 😭
It's about stopping jack
Just ended up killing him in the end
gilded ruin
It's about stopping jack
by killing him
long solar
We were just supposed to stop him
Not straight up kill him
We do in the end tho
Anyways tps story is better
And it's told by someone from memory
gilded ruin
ok so i am positive there is no monk class mod that makes the mag 3 😭😭
i have gotten like 6 different mods at this point
rough galleon
the real question is why do you play everything but the best game 😭
I can vouch it isnt as well
gilded ruin
and Neutral should get you 3 mag
no
i’ve tried neutral good it doesn’t even have money shot
long solar
it’s just my opinion😭
A bad one at that (in my opinion that's a bad opinion)
rough galleon
do you have 3 mag OM on it?
gilded ruin
neutral evil doesn’t give me 3 either
gilded ruin
do you have 3 mag OM on it?
yes but no money shot
gilded ruin
then find one with Money Shot lol
what is this "no" bull
the one that does have money shot doesn’t give me 3 mag
rough galleon
does it have Neutral?
gilded ruin
yes
rough galleon
rip
gilded ruin
neutral evil
long solar
I just spec'd sals mag size skill and it got me to 3 mag
rough galleon
they have Fill to the Brim
long solar
I have it and I'm at three mag
rough galleon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gilded ruin
I have it and I'm at three mag
what mod are u using?
long solar
Even with the monk that gives crit and gun damage
gilded ruin
which monk 😭😭
real oracle
there is no way filled to the brim will make a 2 mag a 3 mag
rough galleon
stockpile relic
long solar
I have the stuff for deputy and I don't even use deputy badge
long solar
I'm stupid my orphan maker is a three mag
Can you tell I don't play this game anymore
No clue what happened but I have a purple bee now
rough galleon
wow, what a cheater, smh
long solar
I didn't even cheat
wheat harbor
a cracked bee
gilded ruin
No clue what happened but I have a purple bee now
gibbed is crazy
rough galleon
you cant even do that in gibbed
gilded ruin
you cant even do that in gibbed
damn
wheat harbor
you can
long solar
I don't know what happened tbh
wheat harbor
just give the bee the purple tediore mat
rough galleon
just give the bee the purple tediore mat
wouldnt sanity check get rid of it?
long solar
you cheated
I didn't cheat
gilded ruin
such a compulsive liar smh
rough galleon
I was saying it as a joke but honestly, who really cares
gilded ruin
i’m smhing my head rn smh
rough galleon
its their gear
wheat harbor
wouldnt sanity check get rid of it?
provably
just disavke sanity check
rough galleon
yeah so probs not in gibbed by default, you would need a work around
long solar
I was saying it as a joke but honestly, who really cares
I really don't care it was probably dropped to me when I got boosted to op10 and didn't realize but who cares
rough galleon
yeah lol
wheat harbor
yeah so probs not in gibbed by default, you would need a work around
?
you can gib it in
rough galleon
you could have a black bee, that would be funnier
wheat harbor
itll be deleted mormally on loading in
rough galleon
ah, alright fair
wheat harbor
but if you disable sanity check
it wont be
long solar
you could have a black bee, that would be funnier
That would be funny
gilded ruin
yeah nah i’ve tried all these class mods 🙏🙏🙏
my only hope is to farm for a 3 mag rustlers
lmfao
rough galleon
what about a True Neutral
gilded ruin
there’s a true?
rough galleon
double Neutral is true
gilded ruin
i haven’t gotten double anything
opal ingot
cuz there's only true neutral
aka neutral and neutral
gilded ruin
i’ve tried lawful neutral, lawful evil, neutral evil, lawful good, neutral good, neutral evil, and all of those in purple as well
reef thorn
Love the part on the item card where it says [Orange]
That reminds me I still need a Badaboom
long solar
Huh
gilded ruin
That reminds me I still need a Badaboom
i’ve got one i can give you
if u need it low level for rocket jumping
reef thorn
Exactly what I needed it for but alas Im on XB
long solar
I really got some weird modded stuff
reef thorn
"Deals bonus elemental damage" is non elemental
Missed that LOL
gilded ruin
Exactly what I needed it for but alas Im on XB
ahhh sucks
long solar
Missed that LOL
Dahl pimpernel feels weird
reef thorn
Trying to find one ?
gilded ruin
mhmmmm
long solar
whyyyyy true neutralll
Funny
reef thorn
Id love a dupe of that but.not OP10 😦
gilded ruin
Id love a dupe of that but.not OP10 😦
what op level u at?
reef thorn
OPnone
gilded ruin
lvl 80?
also man i do NOT wanna farm for a norfleet
lmao
gonna take me years to even get a shit one
reef thorn
Yep 80
tawdry shell
i mean your sal you can kill hyperius pretty easily
everyone can really
still take a while but it’s not impossible
long solar
Antagonist reflection kill
tawdry shell
yuh
long solar
Hoping it's nothing like bl2
gilded ruin
hoping it doesn’t have villains who say “fam” again
gilded ruin
hoping it doesn’t have villains who say “fam” again
ts was almost as annoying as flyboy 🙏🙏🙏
reef thorn
All 30 seconds that he's in the game...
gilded ruin
yeah lmao
now imagine if he was the main villain of the game
that’s bl3 right there 🙏🙏🙏
gilded ruin
that’s bl3 right there 🙏🙏🙏
gameplay was fire tho
long solar
Why is that pimpernel so cursed
Cuz it's modded and got dropped to me
Also you just gonna ignore the bandit grog nozzle
wraith token
Oh wait. That’s what my grog is that was dropped to me when I had someone power level me.
gilded ruin
when the orphan maker is in my left hand it doesn’t get the reload speed bonus f...
it doesn’t get the mag bonus either wtf
what’s going on
dude
opal ingot
left hand only gets the crit from tina coms
gilded ruin
left hand only gets the crit from tina coms
so ur telling me i need to farm for another rustlers with matching grip.
to even be able to use the build
gilded ruin
but preferably jakobs
is main hand deputy any good?
opal ingot
not really
you only get a small money shot bonus cuz of the low mag
that's why deputy prefers the shotgun in the offhand
cuz with the rubi/grog/lady fist you get the full money shot bonus cuz they can roll 12+ mag
gilded ruin
not really
do you think the regular off hand deputy build would work with an ammo relic instead of deputy badge
long solar
I'm Gohan now
gilded ruin
just so i can get money shot to activate
opal ingot
it'd be kinda shit
also stockpile increases the ammo reserve
not mag size
gilded ruin
fuck
so there’s nothing i can do and i have to reset my uvhm to farm for the orphan maker a third time
it took me 3 days to even get a rustlers 😭😭😭
opal ingot
you could get a jakobs allegiance relic w/ mag size tho
but like i said it'd be kinda shit
lofty flame
For a slag Pimpernel its not very good
fiery ingot
I’ll just stick with what I got, already turned it in and it gave me a worse damage one anyway
lofty flame
I mean on a slag variant you're not looking for damage anyways
slim fiber
Found this on one of my old mule characters. I don't remember how the hell I got it.
rough galleon
world dropped if not gibbed
covert mirage
why nothing happening?
opal ingot
what are you doing
glass vessel
sullen girder
why nothing happening?
Explore the area just a tiny bit
sullen girder
what are you doing
Its the door that opens after you kill Knoxx
scarlet plover
You broke the game
tawdry shell
skill goes kinda hard
melee lilith is finally real
gotta figure out what to change to have her work right with blassic tho
opaque snow
Is this good or must i continue farming for a better one?
sullen girder
Its Alright. Not bad but not great
opaque snow
Its Alright. Not bad but not great
I ended up getting a torgue exhaust Derp Nukem
5.9m damage compared to my original 5.3m
glass vessel
skill goes kinda hard
So like melee them and then shotgun right after
tawdry shell
melee then shoot yeah
covert mirage
Is this good or must i continue farming for a better one?
Needs more derp
opaque snow
Needs more derp
Got a better one, Derp prefix and torgue exhaust
calm marten
Is getting perfect version of this gun even worth it or will the reward be tiny?
actually how do you even decide perfect or imperfect? just all parts match the brand or??
leaden stag
matching grip
lofty flame
actually how do you even decide perfect or imperfect? just all parts match the b...
The best way to find out what a goof variant is imo (excluding trial and error) is just looking at bl2.parts or lootlemon.com's "parts" tab on the item you're looking for and kinda build your own gun
calm marten
amazing
calm marten
The best way to find out what a goof variant is imo (excluding trial and error) ...
Not even getting it for the stats anymore, I just think that it looks better when you get all matching brand parts
lean orchid
Doing a bl2 randomizer(skill and loot)
How cooked am i
I somehow actually got an interspeed outburst AND anarchy
rough galleon
NKLOK as early as lvl 6
youre good
also kunai lvl 7 for some elemental dmg as you decepti0n
i like how theres only 2 krieg skills and being on fire alone is pretty trash esp how far it is pointwise in the most mediocre tree from the three
tawdry shell
Doing a bl2 randomizer(skill and loot)
How cooked am i
do class mods get created to work with the skill tress? or is it normal coms
lean orchid
do class mods get created to work with the skill tress? or is it normal coms
idk, I haven't got a com yet, I'm eating some food before I start
lean orchid
i like how theres only 2 krieg skills and being on fire alone is pretty trash es...
idk how I got that almost god roll trees lmao
rough galleon
yeah
anarchy NKLOK with decepti0n can already be all the gun dmg you need
covert mirage
dang im broke
scarlet plover
Dang that’s so sad-
lean orchid
Doing a bl2 randomizer(skill and loot)
How cooked am i
slagga from the fuck lyersberg quest
lofty flame
The what now
sullen girder
Liars Berg
silver heath
Doing a bl2 randomizer(skill and loot)
How cooked am i
Downloaded that mod earlier is it fun?
lean orchid
Downloaded that mod earlier is it fun?
Yes
blazing delta
You got a good borderlands 2 buddy and im jealous 
wheat harbor
i do chuckle that people call a 94% thats not from bunker "illegitimate"
despite it being SO much rarer
trim hinge
ikr
wheat harbor
"um you got the neat drop in a rarer way? well thats not the real cool drop, youre supposed to do it the easy way"
gilded ruin
"um you got the neat drop in a rarer way? well thats not the real cool drop, you...
i say who cares lol
trim hinge
and the sham is ass
gilded ruin
if u get a 94 sham from snowman u should be part of the 94 sham club
gilded ruin
and the sham is ass
only for rocket jumping lol
gilded ruin
me when the better option
gilded ruin
that exists?
trim hinge
higher capacity with 50% absorb chance and an elemental immunity
gilded ruin
50% is ass sorry lmao
trim hinge
i mean it is absorb in bl2 so
gilded ruin
other points are good tho
trim hinge
yeah it does
gilded ruin
so ofc it won’t
rough galleon
just make one smh
if it Blockade capacity and uniques, Sham absorb and WTF Boosters for shits and giggles
trim hinge
i couldnt find the image i wanted so uh
have this thing i made years ago
krieg but good
rough galleon
LOL YOU LITERALLY JUST SWAPPED PtP FOR ANARCHY
fucking dying
oh there's a few Gaige things in there
trim hinge
rough galleon
krieg but good
pls tell me this is something else tho
trim hinge
no
rough galleon
rough galleon
yo that be looking like my fridge, frfr
rough galleon
What a monster
tawdry shell
what mod?
blassic
trying to run it combined with the lilith mod
having no issues so far after some minor tweaking, but phasewalk is doing a bit too much damage i feel
dead as hell
tawdry shell
pretty much the only big overhaul mod i play lol, very fun
twilit parcel
hello does someone have op10 gunzerker?
summer gull
how to break nomad's shield in bl2?
if this is impossible, then how to kill him if Doc Mercy cannot be one-shotted from the back and he himself causes colossal damage in the location to increase OP lvl
tall surge
how to break nomad's shield in bl2?
You dont
tall surge
if this is impossible, then how to kill him if Doc Mercy cannot be one-shotted f...
Go around
Or go close enough for him to melee you
lofty flame
You can force them to do the very dodgeable melee attack too
summer gull
I’m just tired of this location, I can’t pass it for the 15th time because all the enemies have protection in front (I play with Zero melee) and when I try to get around me, they kill me with my own kunai or random enemy bullets
lofty flame
If you die to your own kunai that means you're getting too close when you shouldn't be
Deception > kunai > go around > stab
tall surge
Yeah if youre doing zer0 melee then you can worry even less about enemy shields
But yeah the kunais explode, and that explosion damages you
lofty flame
You can also throw singularly nades and iirc execute also knocks them back
rough galleon
plus most "splash" dmg just straight up ignores the shield cuz it does dmg to the enemy through it lol
summer gull
Is this shield suitable for a melee build?
rough galleon
ya
summer gull
here are the skills that are worth it if anything
rough galleon
Like the Wind is bad lol
and if melee build, I guess Be Like Water works... tho isnt really that strong even with 5/5
lofty flame
Like the Wind is bad lol
They didn't spec into that
rough galleon
yee but they have it hovered so I thought I would mention it
summer gull
rough galleon
yeah Be Like Water is still mid
summer gull
I don’t know why but my OP8 damage is still too low
rough galleon
is everything on level?
are you slagging and death marking?
lofty flame
Are you taking advantage of ambush, backstab, death mark and slag?
rough galleon
are you waiting out Decepti0n until its about to expire to Execute?
summer gull
is everything on level?
are you slagging and death marking?
yes I use kunai to mark and slag everyone
rough galleon
ngl, Zer0 has the most conditionals to get his dmg up
summer gull
are you waiting out Decepti0n until its about to expire to Execute?
what?
rough galleon
what?
How Decepti0n works is to wait until the last few seconds to get the most of its buffs
OR
small bursts for shorter cds and invisible resets
that's how you play with Decepti0n
summer gull
https://youtu.be/u2tn31gAUSY?feature=shared How does he not die from Dukino's mom?
rough galleon
Grog Nozzle
summer gull
I use it too but I die quickly even like this
rough galleon
the answer is still Grog Nozzle
you just aren't healing fast enough clearly
or timing it as your hp depletes
summer gull
rough galleon
that is a Grog Nozzle, yes
summer gull
I still don't have enough damage to play this build comfortably
rough galleon
I have a feeling you aren't doing the conditionals properly or actually dont have on level gear like when you were fighting Terra and just lying about it
summer gull
I just comply with all the conditions and I can’t kill the conditional constructor, they one-shot me and I can’t get up
- why am I always unlucky and it very often happens that fucking enemies have resistance to the slag
rough galleon
eh, that's usually why sniper Zer0 is recommended more for Peak
melee against x can be far worse than just clicking heads
summer gull
and then where should I play melee if it’s crap everywhere?
rough galleon
its not crap everywhere for one
its usually just used for mobbing and helps since it requires more skill points than gear to get up so if you have levels, you can just melee everything instead of farming for gear to a degree
and you're taking things to the extreme
anything that's slag resistant in Peak are: Dukino's Mom, Saturn, Constructors and anything that is slag themselves (shocker I know)
still a lot of smaller bandits and whatnot in there that can be slagged
summer gull
literally the start is slag
I hate games where everything depends on fucking randomness
where is the gameplay if everything here is withered only by fucking randomness?
ivory pewter
Randomness produces variety
rough galleon
if there wasnt any RNG in BL2
holy shit would the game be barebones lol
ivory pewter
I hate games where everything depends on fucking randomness
Never touch a roguelike/lite
And agreed, lol. Not all RNG for Bl2 is pleasant or good, but the game would be a lot less entertaining or replayable without RNG in general
summer gull
Never touch a roguelike/lite
I already tried it, thanks
rough galleon
Issac runs living or dying if you pick up one funny item
summer gull
i hate Hades and BBEE
ivory pewter
-10
rough galleon
unfort
summer gull
How to remove the nasty voice acting of Tannis?
ivory pewter
-15
summer gull
it infuriates even more than this random shitty and unbalanced location
lofty flame
Or play with music on
summer gull
I just don't understand why there is melee in this game if it's literally useless here
summer gull
I just don’t understand why I ALWAYS come across these slag spiders that cannot be killed with a blow
rough galleon
cuz Centrions are tanky
lofty flame
If i remember correctly they have a lot of damage resistance everywhere except their abdomen
rough galleon
ok real question
what does all this complaining do for you?
just swap off if you can't melee work for you
Peak is a totally different show than the rest of the game
lofty flame
And yeah centurions crank that up even further
summer gull
If i remember correctly they have a lot of damage resistance everywhere except t...
I can't slag them
rough galleon
If i remember correctly they have a lot of damage resistance everywhere except t...
I recall being told they just can't take dmg from 75% of their hitbox
lofty flame
How quaint
rough galleon
which is a very cool design, thanks gearbox
lofty flame
I can't slag them
Well yeah they're infused with the stuff
summer gull
ok real question
what does all this complaining do for you?
just swap off if yo...
sniper build is especially not my playstyle
rough galleon
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iw5FfvFB6LikfcNtElQk_paRb5AVg8ftQjtWeDScbqM/edit?gid=0#gid=0
this might help
then shotguns/pistol build
summer gull
Zero doesn't have that
lofty flame
sniper build is especially not my playstyle
Just use other types of guns and dont spec into At 0ne With the Gun and Critical Ascensi0n
wheat harbor
And agreed, lol. Not all RNG for Bl2 is pleasant or good, but the game would be ...
yeah
rng is always a balance between fun variations in gameplay and then just miserable luck
rough galleon
Zero doesn't have that
0ne Sh0t 0ne Kill very much says otherwise
a lot of the Sniper tree isn't solely sniper you know?
rough galleon
which are at the very end of the tree too lol
wheat harbor
zero goes hard with shotguns
summer gull
I'll try to knock out Unkempt Harold but I doubt it will help
lofty flame
I'll try to knock out Unkempt Harold but I doubt it will help
Harold is not good on him
Maggie is better
wheat harbor
as much as a harold can suck
leaden stag
I did swap to a maggie yesterday on my zero
rough galleon
doesnt help that Peak has quite a few enemies who's resistant to grenade dmg lol
wheat harbor
because guess what
accuracy boosts are best on shotguns
no other weapon type really benefits from improved accuracy as its not a “downside” on them
shotguns get so much better with improved accuracy, especially when you want to crit
rough galleon
oh nvm, its just Saturn and Constructors
wheat harbor
maggie is fucking deadly on zero
preadd crit go hard
lofty flame
Exquisite
leaden stag
I wanna get a thompson but the dirt pile is mean
summer gull
Maggie is better
Maggie?
leaden stag
cant be helped, the hammer buster nostalgia is stronger than my bickering
leaden stag
the "masher" of bl2
wheat harbor
more like the musher
just dont get a two fer maggie
im still sad you cant get tediore grip on jakobs pistols
tall surge
Just dont get a double accessory ever tbh
wheat harbor
because of nisha
leaden stag
I got a bowie one on my zero
tall surge
because of nisha
Why because of nisha
wheat harbor
I got a bowie one on my zero
basicslly nothing
wheat harbor
Why because of nisha
because she wants smaller mag weapons
well like 6 mag
matching grip maggie is like 14
tall surge
Oh ok
I thought you were saying that we cant get tediore grip in jakobs pistol cuz its nisha's fault
wheat harbor
tediore grip lets her keep her damsge buffs up longer
lofty flame
im still sad you cant get tediore grip on jakobs pistols
Doesnt vladof grip provide a bit of reload speed to compensate for that or lootlemon is schizoing
wheat harbor
it gives reload cause fire rate is useless
leaden stag
I cant recall but is dastardly the damage prefix one
lofty flame
I mean it still gives it fire rate regardless
wheat harbor
so yea it might be the better option for nisha
leaden stag
might farrm zafford after am done with thompson
tall surge
I cant recall but is dastardly the damage prefix one
Yeah
lofty flame
I cant recall but is dastardly the damage prefix one
It is
leaden stag
cool then at the very least am covered for lvl 62 with maggie
wheat harbor
so yea it might be the better option for nisha
honestly
i could see a gunstock vladof grip umforgiven being the go to for nisha
summer gull
fuck
lofty flame
honestly
i could see a gunstock vladof grip umforgiven being the go to for nish...
I would have loved to use the Unforgiven on her
Or the Rex
leaden stag
its kinda sad how cool unforgiven would be if no fire rate restrictions
wheat harbor
then it wouldnt be an unforgiven
leaden stag
thing hits almost as hard as a jakobs sniper
wheat harbor
main issue the unforgiven has in 2 is its terrible accuracy and accuracy regen
crit only gun
cant be accurate
leaden stag
I liked it on siren a bit
lofty flame
>crit only gun
>cant be accurate
The most designed weapon ever
leaden stag
but yeah with the amount of aiming it takes I might as well snipe
tall surge
main issue the unforgiven has in 2 is its terrible accuracy and accuracy regen
Did it also have bad accuracy in 1?
Or did they do thst just cuz fuck you
lofty flame
LL has it as a masher (ofc it does) with 87.0
Which is higher than both the Anaconda and Equalizer
wheat harbor
Or did they do thst just cuz fuck you
its like
slightly worse in 1
but no where near as bad as it is in 2
summer gull
crap
i have crazy idea
at low OP, farm pink crystals from raid bosses and then use them to buy the shotgun that was used to kill those raid bosses in the “melee” build
lofty flame
Not that crazy
summer gull
🤔 I’m thinking of 3 ways in my head right now: trust the corn. believe rapple. and my favorite Dusltoop
lofty flame
VERY crazy
Damn thats CRAZY
summer gull
Remind me what kind of shotgun this is and where I can get it?
tall surge
Remind me what kind of shotgun this is and where I can get it?
The maggie?
summer gull
no
tall surge
Interfacer?
lofty flame
Vora, dexi or ooo; or vendors in tvhm and normal
ivory pewter
Pick your cringe
lofty flame
I choose gibbed
ivory pewter
A wise choice 
summer gull
that is, all the same, these crystals are useless
ivory pewter
For the specific intentions you had, yeah
lofty flame
The only time this game ever bothers to lock you out of cheesing gear like that
boreal egret
boreal egret
Either a Ucp change. Or you save edited in
prolly ucp change
cuz why the fuck would I save edit in a lvl 1 harold