bl1-2-tps-media

[hallow sierra]

yeah

[tawdry shell]

yeah but the wii u doesn’t have gamecube controller ports now does it

[rough galleon]

Also Wii U was marketed so poorly lol

[cunning sable]

Whos using a GameCube controller

[rough galleon]

People thought it was how the Switch is today

Portable console

[rough galleon]

Me

[tawdry shell]

me on games that support it

i am NOT playing brawl and mario kart wii with the wii remote

love that thing but good god it’s so hard to use now

[rough galleon]

Playing Brawl with Wii Remote or with numchuks was weird

[cunning sable]

No you gotta use the wheel

[cunning sable]

I did that my whole life
Its absolutely fine

[rough galleon]

Im using Tilt Controls!

Youre weird

[cunning sable]

I didn't have an alternative

At least i use the nunchuck

[rough galleon]

You know
Thats fair

[tawdry shell]

i only ever used the controller by itself playing most games

never got the hang of the nunchuck

[rough galleon]

My family was playstation and nintendo fans so we had the super nintendo to Wii

[tawdry shell]

how i managed to do good on mario kart Wii online when i was so young is insane to me

idk if the funky kong meta took serious effect yet

[cunning sable]

Many
Many
Many
Many

Blue shells

[tawdry shell]

i remember destroying people playing as my mii in the zip zip

[hallow sierra]

Oh, I thought you were going to say "must fall"

[rough galleon]

It still is present for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Funky Kong and Dry Bowser was BiS

[tawdry shell]

im so glad they brought him back

now we need the flame runner again

[cunning sable]

We got Kamek

[rough galleon]

Every Japanese sweat was using them and I love watching them lap people

[real oracle]

it comes with your sdk install

that is not blcmm

[fluid robin]

good roll?

i also just got a volcano

[leaden stag]

for lvl 50 I think they can go up to 690k

so maybe not a good roll but its a good nade

[fluid robin]

yeah anything works but good if its a good roll

[leaden stag]

then if my memory serves me right no thats prolly like grade 3 damage or so

[thick tide]

Chances on this perfect roll?

[copper wasp]

I wanna say somewhere in the ballpark of 1/256?

That being said, it's still a level 1 white gun; it won't really last too long

[thick tide]

yeah true then again its the starting sniper it absolutley shredded knuckle dragger

[sullen girder]

1/5 for barrel
1/5 for grip
1/5 for Stock

1/125

[sullen girder]

Pretty off

[copper wasp]

Ah, I see

Thanks for the correction

[trim hinge]

ah the sniper you use for knuckledragger and toss it aside after

[sullen girder]

The sniper you use for a whole 3, maybe 4 levels

[wheat harbor]

this always bothers me tbh
theyre cool items but then
you toss them away in 5 seconds

then theyre also kinda... limited?

i wanna see about making them spawn in any manufacturer

[trim hinge]

need them to be refarmable and come in purple versions like they did in bl1

[wheat harbor]

tru

also
why did we get an AR, smg and sniper

AR and smg is like the same basic category of weapon

[cunning sable]

Funy

[wheat harbor]

huh
the AR was going to be dahl?

[wheat harbor]

ill probably make the current skin look more low quality white then make special purple versions with a higher quality skin
Im not bothered to do green and blue variants

[trim hinge]

that would be great

[tawdry shell]

i was always bummed they didn’t make the manufacturer gearbox

[wheat harbor]

manufacturer is used for a bunch of the animation stuff so itd be a pain to fix it all for gearbox

[wheat harbor]

fnuuy

[tawdry shell]

pretty

[past wren]

i won

[fiery roost]

Sheeesh

[summer gull]

one hit - oneshot? wtf

it's melee build! what the hell!

[opal ingot]

bore

[summer gull]

huh?

[trim hinge]

yeah b0re does that

[summer gull]

???

this?

[trim hinge]

bunker's hitboxes are kinda fuckd up so b0re does infinite damage to him

pretty much

[summer gull]

bruh

[copper wasp]

If you want I can try to give you a more in-depth explanantion

[summer gull]

nah

The main thing for me is that I was able to kill him because I still have to upgrade to OP10 (right now I'm playing at OP8) and farm the legendary ninja class mod

it's just funny that I took one shot

[trim hinge]

you can kill op10 bunker with a level 1 pistol

which is funny

[summer gull]

I don't have OP10 open yet

and I'm tired of dying 24/7 because I'm missing a lot of things for the build

bruh

[cunning sable]

You can turn that off ynow

[rough galleon]

Those stats arent legitimate with 15k BAR lol

Plus that recharge delay actively fucks with melee zer0 since they want roid shields to be 0 capacity for its bonuses

[summer gull]

because this is a broken save when switching from the RU version of the game to the main one

[cunning sable]

Why do you have two

[summer gull]

I'm starting to slowly hate this game because of this

[summer gull]

Russian version and main one

[cunning sable]

One wasnt enough to bore yourself with?

[wheat harbor]

just a smidge

[summer gull]

if you are Russian, then you essentially buy 2 versions of the game.

[wheat harbor]

weird

[cunning sable]

...
Theres language options
Are there not

[opal ingot]

yes but there's no russian

[rough galleon]

Double the trouble

[summer gull]

I had to abandon the version with Russian localization (only the interface and subtitles were translated) because the DLC with Commander Lilith does not apply to it

[wheat harbor]

so they made a russian version instead of a language option?

very
efficient

[summer gull]

questions to the developers why they brought the Russian localization into a separate game and do not update it as the main second part

[wheat harbor]

tbh could prbably just take one of the sets of localisation files and convert them into russian

make your own translation

[summer gull]

I have no problems with the English language and that’s why I switched to the main version of the game

but it's sad that my saves are broken(

fuck.

This is the 50th time my game has crashed when I alt+tab

[glass vessel]

[lean orchid]

Why does alt tab crash for everyone

I've never alt tab crashed in bl2, once

[past wren]

alt tab doesnt crash me

[glass vessel]

Alt-j is a great band

[cunning sable]

Full-screen

[rough galleon]

Peak game design obviously
its telling you to close the game for good

[cunning sable]

And put tps on instead

[rough galleon]

True!

[slim fiber]

whoa, holding on to this

[wheat harbor]

neat

(ignore the rarities)

[sullen girder]

Both Claws (Gaige and DT) are Bad mostly
Deathtrap speed os bad
GET BLOOD SOAKED SHIELDS
1/5 Made of Sterner Stuff so you have 50% fire dot resist

[fluid seal]

Can you list the entire tree of what i should get like

1st box:
1, 5, 2, 2, 5, 0, 0
2nd box:
0, 0, 0

Something like that

[sullen girder]

Check the Gaige document in the pinned messages of #borderlands-2

[fluid seal]

Oh sweet

[sullen girder]

I aint doing that. Fuck that

[fluid seal]

Lol

[fluid seal]

What build is mine 😭

[sullen girder]

IDFK

[fluid seal]

I'm cooked

[rough galleon]

me saying BSS is the only survival skill she needs

doesn't have it

no wonder you are struggling to live

[fluid seal]

😭

[wheat harbor]

DT speed is really only bad with higher investment
but yeah it is kinda a waste of points

if you do want a DT build a couple points in annoyed android is good

[wheat harbor]

now to give it a skin

[leaden stag]

is it me or does it sound kinda suggestive

[wheat harbor]

LMAO

skin

[cunning sable]

Red

[wheat harbor]

(old hyperion)

[cunning sable]

I know

I play tps you think i dont

[leaden stag]

hot take but fuck Jack´s color taste

I hate yellow

[wheat harbor]

i like yellow but yea its
weird

[hallow sierra]

wtf is this relic

[rough galleon]

Accuracy 🙂

[hallow sierra]

-47.5% max accuracy
why the fuck would I want that?

[rough galleon]

Funny

[trim hinge]

• max accuracy probably means you have less bloom while firing

[hallow sierra]

one may only hope

BL2's stat cards are opaque af

[cunning sable]

You got a bad roll on it, they can roll different stats

[hallow sierra]

I'm well aware of that

[past wren]

can't remember if i already posted this but man i love this

[cunning sable]

Dont you want the skills reversed

[past wren]

probably if i want to optimize, but i think this is funny especially with the carnage

[real oracle]

max accuracy is the actual name of the crosshair's size

so it reduces the size of your crosshair's max size by that %

it's still shit because aiming down sights already does that

[wheat harbor]

reduces how big your reticle can be
so starting accuracy for hyperions

makes them start smaller

[wheat harbor]

you get uh
less sway?

but yeah accuracy is not the vauge concept of being accurate

[real oracle]

yeah thas about it

[real oracle]

about this, expect me and zeta to be very pedantic about the term "accuracy"

because the game does jack shit describing it to you

and straight up lies about the accuracy stat all the time

[wheat harbor]

its also cause
what else would you call it?

[real oracle]

that too but

[wheat harbor]

spread spread?

[real oracle]

spread is falsely labled as accuracy

[wheat harbor]

as its the spread of the spread

[real oracle]

ig

[wheat harbor]

honestly the worst part

[real oracle]

it is

[wheat harbor]

and usually min accuracy reduction is inverted to show as an accuracy boost

max accuracy is the only time its shown “correctly”

[wheat harbor]

the best solution is to remove the accuracy pool functionally and change it to just variable spread

idk why they have two cones

it makes the game feel terrible

i love when low spread shotguns just miss because the entire cluster went off in a weird direction

[fair sluice]

How do I send pics cuz I have a question about my the bee

[wheat harbor]

?vh

[serene escarp]

The Vault Hunter role allows you to upload and embed pictures and other media in certain channels and stream to VC. It also allows Nitro users to use external emotes. The Vault Hunter role is an activity role and requires you to reach level 2 with the Lurkr bot. All you have to do to level up is to chat with other users in the server.

[valid fox]

approximately 40 seconds of farming

[lunar hound]

me when raidboss farming

[slim fiber]

not bad for a world drop

[glass vessel]

Now 40 minutes

[valid fox]

power of anime and god on my side

[valid fox]

i love the hybrid mod

[tawdry shell]

real

wait till you get a maggie greed

[valid fox]

Is greed refarmable in ucp?

[tawdry shell]

yeah

[trim hinge]

should be

[tawdry shell]

roscoe drops it

[valid fox]

Roscoe respawns?

[tawdry shell]

in the patch, dunno about vanilla

[valid fox]

Do you mean via repeating the quest simply

[tawdry shell]

i actually have no clue how you get back to him

i just used commander to fly to his arena and then set my save point lol

[wheat harbor]

repeat the whole quest

[past wren]

bl2 unforgiven masher no fucking way

[wet saffron]

why can't i submit this quest

[summer gull]

damn

[tawdry shell]

walk directly in front of the catch a ride

[summer gull]

fuck.

no dmg

[valid fox]

Get a fire one and swap to a lady fist as the projectiles are still flying

[tawdry shell]

get a fire lyuda

critical ascension is extremely good with it and will do far more damage then the bee

since zero has lots of crit and stuff good for sniping

bee isn’t even needed with it, doesn’t hurt tho

that and then slag + death mark, fire bone, the usual stuff

should make the kill pretty easy

[lofty flame]

Dont forget ambush as well

[summer gull]

let's fuckin go

[lofty flame]

Holy shit that is an atrocious roll

[summer gull]

first attempt after playing Diablo 2 with my brother

[leaden stag]

slag element too

[summer gull]

hell yeah

[lofty flame]

Damn you got no luck with the elemental drops

[summer gull]

rly?

[summer gull]

are u sure?

[lofty flame]

You should stay away from gambling

[cunning sable]

Slag is the worst element to have for damage

[lofty flame]

I was gonna say maybe Veruc can serve as a slagging tool but then you got fuckin 9% slag chance

[cunning sable]

The best percentage

[sullen girder]

Dawg slag only gets a 1.5x damage boost against slagged targets in uvhm

Any other damage type is x3 damage

[neat galleon]

Can I have someone give me their opinion or some tips on a Krieg build, I have one here and I want to see what else I can come up with on other people's opinion.

[lofty flame]

Dont take Fuel the Blood if you take Silence the Voices

1 point in thrill of the kill is enough

Feed the meat is definitely a must skill

[neat galleon]

What should I do with the last 6 points, I took out points on Fuel the Blood and put one point in Thrill of the Kill and put 5 points on Feed the meat.

[lofty flame]

Nervous blood maybe

[rough galleon]

Blood Trance is bad if you want to use Release the Beast often

The rest seems fine

You could invest some points into Hellborn for more dmg resist but like, melee Krieg doesnt really need to

[lofty flame]

Doesnt have enough for fire fiend right?

[rough galleon]

Can remove anything about gun dmg

BB and FtR is all you need from left tree kill skills

[lofty flame]

BB as in?

Boiling Blood?

[rough galleon]

And Blood Bath
Its pure gun dmg but like its so much that getting it only for second winds is fine

[lofty flame]

Don't you lose your kill skills on getting downed or am i tripping mad balls rn

[rough galleon]

Dont believe so?
I could test it

[neat galleon]

I was gonna say don't I need some gun damage with Krieg at least?

[rough galleon]

If going melee
Not much

Blood Bath alone is enough lol

[neat galleon]

So I shouldn't put points in Boiling Blood?

[lofty flame]

The opposite

[neat galleon]

Oh I shouldn't put points in Blood Bath?

[lofty flame]

You can but its not entirely necessary

[rough galleon]

something like this

[lofty flame]

Is that fuel the blood

[rough galleon]

also correction, Fuel the Rampage isn't needed cuz the action skill resets if done right
otherwise like 20-30s in combat

ye

[lofty flame]

Isnt that gonna make stv kinda explode them

Since grenade damage

[rough galleon]

yosh

[lofty flame]

The character from mario?????? Holy crap!!!!

[rough galleon]

makes your Bloodsplosion more funny but also StV is gonna do mad dmg

high risk for high dmg

what 12% does to a motherfucker

[neat galleon]

ok hold on here real quick.

So something like this?

[rough galleon]

yea you're right LOL

damn that sucks

[neat galleon]

oh wait

[lofty flame]

Gearbox does it again

[neat galleon]

I should switch out Blood Trance with Fuel the Blood, but wasn't I just told it wasn't good?

[rough galleon]

Fuel the Blood provides more grenade dmg which boosts Buzz Axe Bombardier and Bloodsplosion's dmg

Blood Trance makes you stay in Buzz Axe Rampage longer but that means you can't use the iframes and full heal that entering Release the Beast provides

[neat galleon]

Oh I see that makes sense. Well this is incredible, thank you guys for your help, I need to come up with Gaige build here as well if you don't mind for the assist on that?

[rough galleon]

sure

[neat galleon]

So I had this build for a long time but not sure if its even good, what do you think?

[cunning sable]

Some
Strange picks

[rough galleon]

Buck Up can be bad cuz it can shield enemies
would put that point into Upshot Robot

if going Wires Don't Talk, I would recommend removing Strength of Five Gorillas for Electric Burn and put some points into Myelin if you don't want to 5/5 Shock Storm (also I like Shock and AAAGGGGHHHH)

Annoyed Android is pointless unless you are building for a DT build

[neat galleon]

hold on, let try something here

So something like this? @rough galleon

[rough galleon]

dont need 5/5 in Made of Sterner Stuff, 1 point is fine for the fire resist

otherwise ya

[neat galleon]

Ok so took off but one point in it and filled 5/5 on Eletrical Burn, however I have more point left, what do you think? @rough galleon

[rough galleon]

I like Shock and AAAGGGGHHHH as mentioned, but you can throw it anywhere

or Explosive Clap for the CC

[neat galleon]

I put one in Shock and AAAGGGGHHHH since some skills do Shock damage.

perfect, let me show the finalize build then.

Here is the build then.

Thank you so much @rough galleon and @lofty flame for you're help and tips on the builds I really appreciate the assist. 😄

[rough galleon]

yeah looks fine

[cunning sable]

Personally i think you should do this

https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_555155151151_551125151500_400000000000

[rough galleon]

i fucking knew you were gonna pull up a no anarchy build LOL

[opal ingot]

@tawdry shell you're right

[trim hinge]

great googly moogly

[tawdry shell]

[opal ingot]

and also the

[trim hinge]

MASSIVE

[tawdry shell]

now all it needs is random parts missing, default texture, and a different manufacturer

2012 classic

[opal ingot]

i don't feel like booting the gamer up it's not august 2021 anymore

*game

[frail walrus]

@opaque snow

its aight

[opaque snow]

I did not see this fr

[frail walrus]

i aint struggling per se but i do wish my reload speed was faster

[opaque snow]

Try Speccing out of bloodbath and redeem the soul and put it into boiling blood and nervous blood

[frail walrus]

but ma guns 💔 and u right i prolly dont need redeem the soul i just like extra ffyl time

[opaque snow]

Spec out of PiP and into Elemental Empathy

[opaque snow]

Fair

[frail walrus]

yeah i DEF need elemental empathy

[rough galleon]

not much points honestly

2 or 3/5 is strong enough

Krieg is one of those characters who gets a lot of benefits with 1/5 skills

[rough galleon]

if your goal is to do peak runs
i would just forgo the thought of melee builds and put a lot of those Mania points into Hellborn

[frail walrus]

oh yea ik

[rough galleon]

if you havent already
would recommend giving the krieg guide a look in bl2 pinned messages
they also have a hybrid build

[frail walrus]

i was lookin at it it was why i specd into pain is power

[cunning sable]

Thats not just any build
Thats the one i used

[rough galleon]

the BlueMew special

i really do like a shock heavy focused build with no anarchy
still need to do a roboteer build tho

[tawdry shell]

the special

[cunning sable]

Mines more dot focused with bonus shock benefits

Since i use the Catalyst

[cunning sable]

STOP USING THAT
FOR FUCKS SAKE

[tawdry shell]

dw this is my last day of nitro

[rough galleon]

truuu

[tawdry shell]

i’ll make a server suggestion to get it added here just for you

[rough galleon]

toxic

[cunning sable]

I will put a deep fryer in your air fryer

[tawdry shell]

i really like my air fryer you can’t do that

[rough galleon]

air fryer bout to be ground fried

ignore me i cant think of something else to say

[cunning sable]

Sky Fryer

[vital iron]

is this better than i think it is

i have a feeling i’ve found a really good weapon here but i don’t know much about them in this game

[tawdry shell]

depends on which version you got

?fibber

[serene escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770358985688612874/852973451114971206/FibberChart.png

[tawdry shell]

seems like you got the ricochet one which is the best variant

[valid fox]

yeah ricochet fibber is one of the best weapons in the game but the way to use it correctly can be seen as cheesy (but who cares)

it splits into 9 projectiles after ricocheting so if you angle your shots just right you can deal a lot of damage. Each of those projectiles is also unlisted so AMP shields give them full bonus, making it an excellent choice to pair with the bee

[sullen girder]

The "correct way to use it can be seen as cheesy"?

[valid fox]

amp on unlisted, gaige ricochete shoot the floor, salvador in general

[sullen girder]

Amp was maybe intended
Gaige and Sal are character specific

[valid fox]

it's not a huge deal and personally dont care, i just wouldnt be surprised if someone did

[summer gull]

what the fuck

I'm playing OP8!

fuck

[sullen girder]

Level doesn't matter much on Relics

[summer gull]

and sniper rifles?

[sullen girder]

I said relics

Not weapons. But 2 levels below still works

[summer gull]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

misclicked

[sullen girder]

You... already had 1?

[summer gull]

FUCK and where should I look for the legendary ninja class mod now?

[sullen girder]

....Midgets dont drop that

[summer gull]

huh?

[sullen girder]

Legendary Sniper. Ninja. And Killer are tubby exclusive coms for Zer0

So do the claptocurrency farm

[summer gull]

clapto... what?

just where and from whom should I get the required mod class?

[sullen girder]

Its a quest in the FFS dlc

[summer gull]

I don't remember sidequests

[sullen girder]

Do the main story up until you beat the Uranus quest

Find claptrap

Do the "Claptocurrency" quest until the mission objective says "Return the echo wafers"

And theres 3 elemental spiderants that have a SUPER high chance of being tubbies

Or just watch Joltz video of "The best tubby farm"

[summer gull]

bruh

[sullen girder]

Yeah Brick is overleveled in FFS

[leaden stag]

lore accurate brick

[glass vessel]

In the old BL novels he would throw cars at people

[valid fox]

knuckledragger reference

[trim hinge]

he always like +20 levels over you

in the ffs dlc

[summer gull]

let's go.

oh crap

[summer gull]

here i can find Tubby-enemy?

[rough galleon]

make sure not to complete the side quest

and yes
those elemental spiderants can be replaced with tubbies per save quit

[leaden stag]

is it the digitized black queen one

[sullen girder]

Open that door via the main quest so you can spawn there

[leaden stag]

never heard it had good tubby chances

[sullen girder]

Yeah keep that objective and never deliver them

[sullen girder]

The elemental spidersnts in the screenshot have insanely high odds to be a tubby. 1/31 to get 1 tubby spawn per run iirc

[rough galleon]

its pretty common yeah
can even get 2 tubbies in one run at times

[valid fox]

"insanely high"
"1/31"

bodeland

[summer gull]

[rough galleon]

just get lucky
ez gg

[sullen girder]

Better than other tubby odds

[leaden stag]

Im already used to those odds

[sullen girder]

And well, yeah, compared to regular tubby odds its insanely high

[leaden stag]

lol funny I accidentally soft locked the tiny tina cutscene

I forgor that works

man this is fucking wicked so I can stagger a giant boss like Uranus with axe chucks but the skele archers dont get moved

[summer gull]

it's real!

fuck.

(have only legendary sniper on Zero)

[rough galleon]

tina's dlc has like the worse enemy design in the entire game from a gameplay standpoint

so thats not surprising

[leaden stag]

I still get pstd from the stupid mages

its like they dont have a set pattern as to when they dissapear

[summer gull]

what happens if you add a space after two letters in the name “Uranus”?

[rough galleon]

so funny! wow!

[leaden stag]

bruh what

I cant bloodsplode the skeles with melee?

this is so glitchy

[summer gull]

It's funny to me only because I started learning English relatively recently

[rough galleon]

you should
they arent exactly immune to it

[leaden stag]

I just axed a gladiator and the one standing nearby didnt explode

nor the one I killed

[rough galleon]

did you do enough overkill dmg lol

[leaden stag]

fuck my action skill I guess, am doing gun krieg anyway

I did

487k did like 65% of his hp and the last hit was a 978k crit

ok so I think I kinda get it

white damage just doesnt bloodsplode skeletons

[rough galleon]

again
it should

probs just isnt close enough

skeletons arent resistant to explosive nor non-elemental dmg

[leaden stag]

well it doesnt

they are close enough

[rough galleon]

and even if it is
bloodsplosion still would go off
just less dmg

[leaden stag]

they are dying to white damage but the bloodsplosion isnt going off

[rough galleon]

ill test when home

also try to post a pic or record it then

[leaden stag]

its not even about the chain

even the initial explosion doesnt

[rough galleon]

i have no idea what this "white" dmg is lol

like are you using your melee? thats non-elemental dmg in most cases

[leaden stag]

melee and non elemental damage

yeah

melee didnt proc exlosion, neither did a jakobs sniper

huh

now my purple torgue AR didnt either

so far only grenades are working properly for it

this seems kinda stupid

harold works sometimes

odd

huh

it maybe has something to do with hitting armor or dismembering them

crits dont bloodsplode them but hitting them in the chest did

[fiery ingot]

Second highest Assault Rifle mag in BL1 yeah?

(Draco)

Can heavy gunner roll assault?

It cannot.

If it could, this mag could go even higher.

[summer gull]

YEY

[fiery ingot]

Nice.

I would assume if HG could roll Assault along with overload at the same time, you can expect a Draco to have a higher 400+ to 500+ mag.

[summer gull]

bruh

[summer gull]

I hope it was worth it...

the fuck?

[sullen girder]

Wiki is wrong

Use lootlemon

https://www.lootlemon.com/class-mod/legendary-ninja-bl2

[summer gull]

oh

thx

[rough galleon]

also yes
legendary ninja is a straight upgrade from any other ninja COM skill point wise

stats i believe both can roll the same

[summer gull]

💀

[rough galleon]

i mean +5 F0ll0w Thr0ugh and Ambush is great

[valid fox]

what about the theoretical of someone wanting a blue variant with a +6 on something

[summer gull]

I'll go look for the fiery Lyudochka to kill the terramorph (Lyudmila)

[rough galleon]

lets see
10/5 -> 11/5 Killing Bl0w increases 100% melee dmg when below 30%
10/5 -> 11/5 Resurgence increases 4% missing-health restored off melee kills
10/5 -> 11/5 Backstab increases 8% melee dmg when attacking from behind

+5 Ambush is 20% more damage when not targetted
+5 F0ll0wthr0ugh is 30% more melee dmg, 40% more gun dmg and 40% more movement speed of a kill

you can argue Killing Bl0w would be more of a gain to a degree but the other conditionals are easier to get and gives more of a boost otherwise

[rough galleon]

it works from like the 2 seconds of testing
consistently the initial explosion does

you are slagging and overkilling right?

[summer gull]

i'm idiot?

[leaden stag]

yeah

[rough galleon]

ok spending more time doing it
you are right that it doesnt chain

[leaden stag]

namely when it didnt proc an explosion was when the final hit was a crit

[sullen girder]

Why do you have Grim

[rough galleon]

nothing to do with crit

[sullen girder]

Grim is like. The one skill in the Melee tree thats anti melee

And Like the wind sucks since it doesn't work with execute

[rough galleon]

the initial explosion always triggers tho

I did it with explosive, melee and now corrosion

[summer gull]

CD rate

[valid fox]

no roid bonus though

[sullen girder]

The shield on kill makes you lose your roid

[valid fox]

clearly it means you need manly man shield

[sullen girder]

And Bone of the ancients is enough CDR

[rough galleon]

not to mention the fact its a 15s cd too

shits quick

[sullen girder]

And yeah that

[summer gull]

ehe

[sullen girder]

Deception has the shortest cooldown in Bl2 not counting RTB

[sullen girder]

So you're doing melee without a roid shield... the thing that really lets melee zer0 shine

[rough galleon]

Errr, wrong
Maya is in the franchise

13s

[valid fox]

also doesnt this effectively cut cooldown by just 1 seconds at 5/5

[sullen girder]

Oh woops

[summer gull]

I don’t have a decent shield + I want to survive

[sullen girder]

Yeah

[trim hinge]

dubious build

[valid fox]

bing bong killing enemies fast is a good way to not get killed

[sullen girder]

You're melee zer0. You stay in deception until every enemy is dead

[valid fox]

roid shields are the vast majority of damage on melee attacks

[summer gull]

I can't one-shot anyone

[sullen girder]

Theres an achievement for staying in deception for 25 seconds for christ sake

[sullen girder]

Because you don't have ROID

[valid fox]

not without a roid shield you cant lol

[summer gull]

nah

10 seconds

[sullen girder]

Yes there is

[trim hinge]

bro not using the shield for damage and wondering why he can't do damage

[sullen girder]

Oh 10 seconds. Point still stands

[trim hinge]

that is incredible

[valid fox]

manly man time

[rough galleon]

smh, double wrong Deli

[sullen girder]

Average bl player moment

[summer gull]

I don't have a decent teramorph shield

[valid fox]

?

any roid will do

[real oracle]

thats why you just get a love thumper

[sullen girder]

Get a Love Thumper. Or a Punchee

[valid fox]

get a non unique or a love thumper

you dont need hide lol

[rough galleon]

Order + Law my beloved

[sullen girder]

Punchee works too

[summer gull]

and how will I break the shield? (I don't have chain lighting)

[valid fox]

get shot once

[rough galleon]

any other shock or get hit prior to decepti0n

can even use kunai on the floor for it's splash

[sullen girder]

Huh Punchee barely has more roid than Love Thumper

[rough galleon]

little more risky cuz you can slag yourself but it does the job

[sullen girder]

Love Thumper has a delay of 3 minutes

Also get a chain lightning or lightning bolt

[trim hinge]

love thumper you literally just gotta deplete your shield once and then

profit

[valid fox]

take the tiniest bit of splash damage from a spiker or rocketeer -> drop shield -> pick back up

[opal ingot]

3.5 actually

[rough galleon]

oof, 3 strikes

just like me frfr

[summer gull]

where and how i can get it?

and how can I not die when I blow myself up?

[opal ingot]

use lootlemon

[real oracle]

make sure it's a grounded one

[sullen girder]

Huh?

How are you blowing yourself up?

[summer gull]

how can I break my shield?

[sullen girder]

We said multiple times

[valid fox]

damn i wish i explained a good way of doing that

[opal ingot]

holy bl player reading moment

[rough galleon]

tbf, English isnt their first language

[sullen girder]

You can take a tiny bit of damage and then unequip and reequip your shield

Get a chain lightning/lightning bolt with a grounded Love Thumper

[valid fox]

or just let enemies hit you till it breaks

health gate will give you a window to just pop deception

[sullen girder]

And if you Ads while you use deception. No animation lock

[valid fox]

btw does enemy health also scale by 13% per level like our weapon damage or is it a different value?

[real oracle]

that doesnt change not even looking at the words

[summer gull]

spiker and rockteteer this is what?

[real oracle]

same value but an extra 2% linear term per level

[sullen girder]

Those are guns

[valid fox]

etech pistols or assault rifle with torgue barrels, that said those were just examples literally ANY and ALL ways to self damage work that way

[real oracle]

so you get [1.13^level]*(1+0.02*level)

which enemy hp and a lot of skills do, and so does krieg's melee damage

[sullen girder]

Hell KUNAI works

[valid fox]

what about skills that deal rank based dmg like shock hologram or helios?

[real oracle]

helios scales like shit because it uses a different init def, but unforseen does have the linear term

helios uses the skill status damage initdef which is complete garbage

[valid fox]

i see thanks

[real oracle]

no linear part

[valid fox]

so other than cloudkill are any of them worth running late game?

[real oracle]

unforseen scales decently well

uhh thats about it

[valid fox]

bodeland 😔

[wheat harbor]

they all scale the same idot

[summer gull]

what the fuck!

[wheat harbor]

well other than skill status damage

[valid fox]

melee build value

[summer gull]

I play at 8OP but the gear drops at 6-7OP

[wheat harbor]

i think that one might be different

[real oracle]

status damage is missing the bonus

[valid fox]

welcome to bodeland kiddo

[wheat harbor]

only a few use skill status

[valid fox]

yes gear can drop underlevelled thats how the game works

[real oracle]

zeta i know they all scale the same smh its just that no one fucking cares about the other skill damage skills

[leaden stag]

skellies acting weird with blodsplosion

tested it again and meleeing their head off wont explode them

[summer gull]

cringe

[valid fox]

get ucp

[summer gull]

ucp?

[valid fox]

community patch

[sullen girder]

Gear can drop from a range at -2/+1

But if you're at max level. Its a 50% chance to drop on level

[valid fox]

unusable op11 gear when

[lofty flame]

Tomorrow

[summer gull]

wow

and what is better for melee build?

[valid fox]

id imagine the one meant for meleeing

[summer gull]

rly?

[rough galleon]

Try to crit with a melee
And see for yourself

Also Slag Lyuda aint that bad for slagging

[sullen girder]

Just sucks for damage

[summer gull]

fuck 7OP

no damage(

idk how to kill him

[rough galleon]

slag bouncing betty and keep hitting the eye
its not going to be an instant kill but that's how you do it with CA

probs would be better with Leg. Sniper COM than Killer

[sullen girder]

Make sure you have a fire lyuda too

Since thats an extra 75% damage

[sullen girder]

Ah, its okay. But yeah get a Longbow Slag Betty. Or a crossfire

And whats your bee shield looking like?

[summer gull]

idk where i can get better

[sullen girder]

Level. 80....

Its 8 levels under...

[sullen girder]

Hunter Hellguist or Treants in Tina DLC

[summer gull]

Hunter Hellguist?

[opal ingot]

*quist

[sullen girder]

Mordecai gives the quest "This Just In"

[summer gull]

right melee build?

[summer gull]

Do I need to complete the quest to farm?

[rough galleon]

Like The Wind and Vel0city isn't really needed but yeah, it works

[leaden stag]

velocity goated

you can also farm the trees from tina dlc for a bee but idk if they have better odds than hellquist

[opal ingot]

same %, but there are two trees

and only one hellquist\

[calm marten]

I just keep getting pearls

im overflowing

[trim hinge]

and not a single good one

crazy stuff

eh those vladof grip storms are fine

[summer gull]

lucky

[calm marten]

ffs bosses have insane drop rates tbh

[trim hinge]

uranus guarantees a legendary+

so yeah

[valid fox]

for zero none of these are particurarly good

[calm marten]

also Im prolly just gonna sell any legend or pearl that isnt useful to me and isnt particularly rare

[trim hinge]

the storm in the room

[valid fox]

the storm lovers when i accept their opinion and think their playstyles choices are cool and valid:

[cunning sable]

If thay stalker wasn't jakobs it would be fine

Then again none of the other grips are very exciting

[calm marten]

this dpuh isnt for my build but it feels so busted bc I have a bee on (which also isnt for my build)

[summer gull]

I wonder if it is possible to quickly kill Terramorphous with melee combat on Zero in OP8?

[calm marten]

I was in deception and uranus was just staring me down

[summer gull]

dark souls moment

[rough galleon]

no lol

melee dmg on raid bosses isnt quick in general

[summer gull]

Is there an easy way in close combat?

[rough galleon]

well not really

[valid fox]

youre not meleeing raid bosses

[rough galleon]

shotgun would be the valid option if you want to be face first

[summer gull]

https://youtu.be/ZRTxPdOX8us?feature=shared how does he not die

[rough galleon]

"Melee Zer0" as he uses the Interfacer.

[summer gull]

interfa...

what?

[rough galleon]

the shotgun

and notice how that does majority of the dmg, not even his melee

[valid fox]

looks like he just heals up with the grog

[rough galleon]

well that's normal
but its the face that the kill isn't a melee kill
its majority of the Interfacer doing the work

[summer gull]

How can I survive in a fight with him?

[valid fox]

get a moxxi weapon

[summer gull]

any ideas?

[valid fox]

grog

[tawdry shell]

storm mentioned

[summer gull]

fuck OP6

[sullen girder]

And blast proof bleh

[opal ingot]

that's awful

[sullen girder]

Thats what. -2 special and awful delay

[opal ingot]

-3 special

[summer gull]

i love this DLC

[tawdry shell]

i always like 2’s use of godrays everywhere

overkill in some ways but i always thought it looked cool

[summer gull]

lol

For the Horde!

[past wren]

fucking torgue vendors bro

holy roll

[sullen girder]

Jesus

[summer gull]

guys

why do so many Melee Zero use a grog with a blade instead of a rapier?

[opal ingot]

to heal by meleeing

[real oracle]

while out of deception

[surreal spindle]

BL2 venders are really stingy from my experience i've only seen legendary IOTD at least 3-4 times across all of my time playing BL2 and even more rare seeing anything better than green that isn't a IOTD.

TPS venders are way more generous.

[heady marten]

Oh absolutely. They give you good stuff. Always worth checking

[summer gull]

where my dmg?

https://youtu.be/LdRXyQ7Es6A?feature=shared How does he deal at least some damage?!

fuck.

[sullen girder]

Only a % chance. Spam opening/closing your invetory is the best way to do it

[sullen girder]

Because hes not even using melee most of the time. Hes using Interfacer

[summer gull]

how i can get it?

[sullen girder]

Killing Voracidous

[summer gull]

who?

[sullen girder]

A different raid boss

[summer gull]

fuck

[sullen girder]

And the hardest one

[summer gull]

I fucking hate BL2 for its terrible balance, I'm tired of my character not being able to do damage

[sullen girder]

Are you doing a melee build. And are you using a roid shield

Also Melee Zer0 is not for bossing let alone raiding. Its a mobbing build

[summer gull]

Even the sniper build with fucking fire Lyudmila didn’t help at all

[sullen girder]

https://youtu.be/WyaqeLQ9uVI?si=AktSouEibY9TKMeX

Sniper Zer0 is the way to go for Raids

[summer gull]

I don't have enough damage

[summer gull]

I LITERALLY REPEATED THIS BUILD BUT 0 DAMAGE

[sullen girder]

Are you slagging him too?

And he uses multiple fire lyudas

[summer gull]

yes

[fair sluice]

Is this a good bee?

[sullen girder]

Double Maliwan

Max Amp damage

[fair sluice]

I just got it

From the bunker

First one ever

Is it good tho

[sullen girder]

_ _

[fair sluice]

First ome I ever got

[sullen girder]

Yeah he used multiple fire lyudas to get CA stacks up faster and keep them up

[summer gull]

0 dmg

i hate this game

idk how o slag him

[sullen girder]

Whats your grenade

Oh and he has 4 fire lyudas

And everything is of course a god roll

[summer gull]

it's useless

0 dmg

[sullen girder]

No wonder you can't slag him

[trim hinge]

lol

[summer gull]

The bee - gives 0 damage

Slag is also useless
I don't understand how to play this because there is NO damage in this game

[sullen girder]

You're using magic fucking missile

Bro is playing the glass cannon character

[trim hinge]

no damage

[summer gull]

even after setting up slag on it with the help of fucking grog, I deal 0 DAMAGE to it fucking where is the damage?!

[sullen girder]

Dude. Your bee has bad parts
You only have 1 fire lyuda
And you're using Magic fuckibg missile

Sounds like a you issue dude

[summer gull]

this is a shitty game where you can't do fucking damage

[sullen girder]

Videos say otherwise

[summer gull]

even in dark souls you can deal damage from anything calmly, but in this game damage is a myth or something cheating/grinderish

[sullen girder]

"Its the games fault not mine"

[summer gull]

so from Lyudmila alone there should be at least some damage BUT THERE IS NO DAMAGE AT ALL LITERALLY NO 0

[sullen girder]

They also have a way better bee. Way better slag. And i know they're aiming for crits

Its not just the Lyuda

[summer gull]

there's a dude with one Lyuda that did at least some damage, but I literally got 0 damage no matter what I did

[sullen girder]

Also their Lyuda has better parts

[sullen girder]

Consider. Just maybe. Its a you issue

[summer gull]

he has OP10, I have OP8

[sullen girder]

I wasn't saying level

In talking about the parts

[summer gull]

It’s stupid to compare the quality of equipment when taking into account the difference in level

[sullen girder]

YOUR BEE HAS A BANDIT PART

Thats a -6 grade

A double Maliwan bee has +16 grade

So 20 grade difference. And thats a Fucking LOT

[summer gull]

anyway, the damage should be at least minimal

[sullen girder]

Borderlands endgame. Farm for good gear or get shit on by raids

[summer gull]

but it's literally not here

[sullen girder]

_ _

The parts of the gear matter

[summer gull]

(sometimes I need more shots, but still kills faster)

[summer gull]

in BL3 both Zane and FL4K are killing me faster and faster

[sullen girder]

Holy shit. Im done tryna help you

Complain all you fucking want. I've tried and tried to help. But nooooo its the GAMES FAULT. CLEARLY

[summer gull]

Why is it easy to do damage in BL3 but not in BL2?

[wheat harbor]

i mean
it is
just very minimal

maybe dont play on OP8?

[trim hinge]

iono go ask john gearbox or something

[sullen girder]

all your gear has garbage parts. I said this

[summer gull]

I play on maximum difficulty to get the most profitable equipment (because I want to quickly jump to OP10)

[trim hinge]

you get no better gear from doing op levels

[sullen girder]

Op levels don't affect quality of the drops

[trim hinge]

like at all

back in the days they used to increase gen 2 pearl drop chances

[sullen girder]

All Op levels do is add Damage reduction to enemies

[trim hinge]

but now there`s no point to them

[summer gull]

there is a difference in equipment damage

[wheat harbor]

bl3 is just kinda an easier game
things were overbuffed in the players favor

[summer gull]

or not?

[sullen girder]

Enemy health is increased AND they game Dr

[trim hinge]

no

[sullen girder]

So it takes LONGER to kill!

[summer gull]

what?

sounds like a bullshit

[sullen girder]

The damage number is bigger
But the time to kill is longer

[summer gull]

give me sec

[trim hinge]

yeah there isnt

[sullen girder]

_ _

Damage and Enemy health scale at around the same speed

On Op10. Enemies have 70% DR

[summer gull]

OP8 gun

[sullen girder]

HOLY SHIT

DUDE

[summer gull]

80lvl gun

[trim hinge]

reading capabilities lets go!!!

?reading

[serene escarp]

If you’re a Borderlands player then odds are you don’t know how to read this.

[sullen girder]

The damage number is bigger
But the time to kill is longer

ENEMIES TAKE LESS DAMAGE IN OP LEVELS.

AND THEY HAVE MORE HEALTH

[rough galleon]

bro, only 2.5 hours since the last convo where we said Interfacer

[summer gull]

So what's the point of playing at low OP levels if it doesn't give me better gear for higher levels?

[trim hinge]

uhhh

there is no point really

its just there because

iono

[wheat harbor]

you cant expect to play on nearly the highest difficulty snf just get easy wins

[wheat harbor]

and enemies are even harder

its a difficulty slider
not a loot slider

enemies get harder than your damage gets higher

the only reason to go into op levels is to make the game harder
if youre struggling just drop down

[wheat harbor]

difficulty = fun

the point is your own enjoyment

[trim hinge]

if you wanna challenge yourself i guess

[wheat harbor]

some people are just really good and want more challenge

[trim hinge]

like me

:3

(lying)

[wheat harbor]

if youre not
dont play on the high levels

[summer gull]

I came to BL2 just to do a lot of melee damage and that's why I went to OP levels with the goal of seeing the highest possible numbers

[sullen girder]

You. Do know Melee does less damage in op levels. Right?

Melee doesn't scale into the op levels

The highest damage you'll get is mid 70s/80

[rough galleon]

Melee dmg actually does

[sullen girder]

And Krieg does more melee damage

[sullen girder]

Oh. Well its less than guns I assume

[rough galleon]

it just looks like it doesn't scale since the DR is so high

[summer gull]

This is exactly why I want to do high damage at OP levels. and I want to kill Terramorphous to get his shield to increase damage

[rough galleon]

but OP lvls does scale your melee dmg

[rough galleon]

then stop using melee builds
actually watch the videos and copy it

[sullen girder]

He said he tried the sniper build

[rough galleon]

you're hitting your head against this wall but not learning from it

well he isn't copying the gear clearly

[sullen girder]

Has 1 bad Lyuda
Has an awful bee
Magic Missile

[rough galleon]

[sullen girder]

(Bee is Bandit/Vladof)

[rough galleon]

but my fav yter said Magic Missile was OP!

surely it helps for raid bossing 😦

[trim hinge]

thas what reddit told me!

[summer gull]

I forgot to clarify that I want to do high damage on OP in melee on Zero because it was the coolest build before the release of the DLC with commander Lilith (at least as I remember it)

[rough galleon]

then dont test it in Raid Bosses

if you want to do high melee dmg
Rapier, Slag and a Roid shield is basically all you need gear wise

[trim hinge]

homie chose the worst possible place to test a melee build

[tawdry shell]

melee is a mobbing thing lol

[trim hinge]

honestly impressive

[tawdry shell]

bl2 got fake melee, no wavedashing smh

[rough galleon]

would be better to melee Pyro Pete cuz the fucker at least can be hit all the time versus Terra going under lol

[sullen girder]

Melee Zer0 is a mobbing build that chains Many Must Fall into clearing a whole group of enemies

[trim hinge]

so true...

[summer gull]

I'm changing the build for the boss raid and now I'm angry that the sniper build doesn't have much damage

[sullen girder]

Oh and if its the same guy. He was complaining his Melee build didn't one shot ppl

[rough galleon]

yeah man, its the build's fault

[sullen girder]

Uses Antagonist

[trim hinge]

might be cuz ur gear is cheeks

[trim hinge]

we got a total of 0 roid damage!! 🗣️

[summer gull]

OP7 - damage started to appear wtf

[rough galleon]

if there's videos using the same skills and they are killing much faster on a higher difficulty, why do you think its the build's fault? like actually ask yourself?

[trim hinge]

mmm i wonder why

[rough galleon]

wah? less Damage Reduction per OP level exists? thats CRAZY?

[trim hinge]

my gear is a level higher and the enemy is a level under what op8 would be??

satisfactory

[rough galleon]

in all seriousness
just copy the video's everything and see how that performs for you
not just one portion of it

[sullen girder]

And get a Bee that doesn't have DOGSHIT PARTS

[rough galleon]

heh

[summer gull]

the difference is 1 level why the damage began to go through sharply... I don’t know what to say here because if you multiply by 0 it will be 0

[rough galleon]

well it isnt 0 clearly

[sullen girder]

because lower op levels have less damage reduction

Holy FUCK LEARN TO READ

[summer gull]

but not that much!

[rough galleon]

1 level is a massive difference when it comes to being under leveled from it

its up for 65% for OP10

[summer gull]

i hate steam servers.

[rough galleon]

and 99.9% if you're 20 levels under

[summer gull]

I was just thrown out when I had just a little bit left.

[rough galleon]

steam servers shouldn't kick you out of single player session

like...at all

[tawdry shell]

if your playing solo always set you game to offline

[wheat harbor]

OP levels make you do less damage so you probably get bigger numbers at 80

[tawdry shell]

usually prevents that

[rough galleon]

doesnt have to be

[sullen girder]

Game automatically has you in a private online server

[rough galleon]

oh interesting

[tawdry shell]

that’s what i’ve always done to avoid the issue lol

[rough galleon]

Ive never ran into that issue myself

[wheat harbor]

krieg’s 2% per level stops at 80
but the normal 1.13^level scales into OP

[rough galleon]

but I guess if people ran into that problem, better to be safe than sorry

[wheat harbor]

just kill terra at 80

[trim hinge]

also ur not getting a good hide of terra

[rough galleon]

nah, let em cope

[summer gull]

I kill him for the sake of a shield for my build

[trim hinge]

wasting your time

[wheat harbor]

you can get the shield at any level

[trim hinge]

but you do you

[sullen girder]

And theres alternatives that are easier to farm and will likely yield better results

[wheat harbor]

just play at 80 if you want max damage

[sullen girder]

Since a good Hide is well. At this rate you won't get one

[rough galleon]

can even do NVHM or TVHM to feel godly too lol

[wheat harbor]

(ill have to compare the level damage boost to damage reduction to see how it balances out

like
are your damage numbers actually biggwr at op10 compred to 80

[trim hinge]

probably not

knowing how insane the resistance is

[rough galleon]

I wouldnt be surprised if its under like a 10% difference

[wheat harbor]

yea

ill do it once home

[rough galleon]

also I was curious what this "melee build" is about

such melee, much wow

[summer gull]

i hate this attack

[sullen girder]

Melee build because Rapier+Love Thumper. Obviously

[rough galleon]

click bait title is click bait :V

[summer gull]

yeey

fuck

[sullen girder]

Nothing from Tera aside the garbage com?

[rough galleon]

nothing new lol

[wheat harbor]

at that point is the thumper nova even doing anything

or just using thumper because very long delay

[copper wasp]

I'm assuming the delay for not having to do as much shield management

[rough galleon]

a Rough Rider would have more value if that's the case

but also no shield Zer0 is pretty rough

[sullen girder]

Its almost like he was using Interfacer for the majority of his damage and just clickbaited

[rough galleon]

You think someone would do that? lie on the internet?

[summer gull]

Someday I'll get an OP8-level rifle

[summer gull]

fuck

[glass vessel]

No

[cunning sable]

I never lie
So ny that logic i need all your money

[rough galleon]

seems legit to me

[leaden stag]

I never lie fellas when the quiet kid asks them if they like him

[rough galleon]

...?

[opaque snow]

@sullen girder

[trim hinge]

tediore

[sullen girder]

Thats tediore grip

[trim hinge]

not great

[opaque snow]

Bro😭😭

[opaque snow]

What are benefits of matching grip again?

[sullen girder]

Faster reload and Bonus mag size

Improves DPS by a lot

[opaque snow]

I see

[opaque snow]

Aight thank you, I'm looking for a matching grip rn

Is this the grip on the gun

[sullen girder]

The part attached to the vgrip

[opaque snow]

Ohh thank you

[sullen girder]

Its called a vertical grip for a reason

[opaque snow]

That means I need to get a proper matching grip on my flakker

Good to know

[sullen girder]

But on all other guns. The trigger is the grip

[opaque snow]

Thank you

[sullen girder]

The part you circle is shotguns stock

[opaque snow]

I assumed so

[sullen girder]

As thats a Torgue stock

[opaque snow]

Thanks

Imma farm for a perfect flakker as well

@sullen girder matching?

[sullen girder]

Yes..

[opaque snow]

Sweet

This thing is nice fr

Shoots fast

[swift valley]

check this out

exterminating bandit<<<
https://www.mecabricks.com/en/models/1k2qe5BY2E0

[sullen girder]

@opaque snow before you ask

Torgue grip. And Exhaust

[opaque snow]

Thank you

Just found a perfect flakker

[wheat harbor]

up to some
shenanigans

[tawdry shell]

honestly im more curious about it counting as shotgun ammo rather then the element

[wheat harbor]

its uh
secondary ammo
i just cant do much with the icons

and its nice to have em all in one line

sniper would actually be better but
whack placement bothers me

(also the element wasnt even the point either)

the rarities

[harsh plover]

Whats the red one

[wheat harbor]

exotic (basically legendary but recoloured)

i dont want to deal with people complaining about legendary being too common
so im making them exotic

and legendary will just be purple+

[trim hinge]

exo is a destiny lover so he knows exotics

[tawdry shell]

secondary? like an alt firing mode? or is it something different

[harsh plover]

i hate destiny, its my favourite game

[trim hinge]

me too!

[wheat harbor]

ive got primary, secondary and heavy ammo
so the pools are just consolidated into 3

rather than like
6

[trim hinge]

like destin 2

[wheat harbor]

ya

[trim hinge]

i gave her the idea

[tawdry shell]

ohhhh

[trim hinge]

primary ammo is infinite

[wheat harbor]

ammo drops have been balanced around it ofc

[trim hinge]

[harsh plover]

when raids

[trim hinge]

make an entire destiny style raid in bl2

you NEED 4 players

[wheat harbor]

basicallly
primary is infinite so theyre youre main reliable tool for trash mobs
secondary guns hit harder but ofc are limited, more for tough enemies or you can use in normal mobbing but will need a primary to switch to
heavy is uh, for fun? big stuff with few ammo

[real oracle]

exotic,,,,,

exo-tek........

[wheat harbor]

also the categories arent just weapon type

hyperion and bandit shotguns are primary
jakobs tediore secondary
torgue heavy

[harsh plover]

what weapons are heavy?

[wheat harbor]

launchers, torgue shotgun, jakobs sniper

[harsh plover]

interesting

[wheat harbor]

secondary is revolvers, other snipers, tediore and jakobs shotguns

[wheat harbor]

people want legendaries to be rare special drops
i want unique items to actually be accessible for build crafting and not solely rely on dedicated drops
so im making legendary non unique

[potent hamlet]

bruh

anyone know how to launch TPS on the epic games launcher?????

[summer gull]

Why are all OP8 rifles slag?

This is already the fourth slag rifle

[wheat harbor]

bad luck

[summer gull]

[late tangle]

Define shameless:

[lofty flame]

Pretty sure it was like that for 3, new tales and the movie

[sullen girder]

And Wonderlands