Claptrap being the worst TPS character absolutely might be a skill issue for me, I never wasnt struggling with him until my gunchucking started taking off dmgwise
#bl1-2-tps-media
orchid berry
leaden stag
just ignore the action skill and become torguebrained
cunning sable
this and Rainbow Coolant are like the only skills i can tolerate in red tree
real oracle
pirate ship is such an absurdly powerful action skill
it's the tandava of tps
(probably)
orchid berry
so from what I read here this would probably be a more accurate list
(not in my opinion obviously but I shall ever be biased off personal experience and need another playthrough or two on claptrap and brick)
cunning sable
uh no everyone is f except gaige smh
peak ether
so from what I read here this would probably be a more accurate list
Brick is still wrong
he has the highest possible dps peaks in 1
orchid berry
there is no way in hell he is putting out better numbers than Mordecai with kill skills up. and Lilith is nigh immortal... what am I missing here?
do the explosive numbers go funny through some niche interaction?
peak ether
Revenge and Blast Master
111% dmg increase
Payback raises that even more
Lilith's dps is actually pretty weak
tall surge
Revenge and Blast Master
is stuff like Revenge and Blast Master and Pay Back multiplicative with each other?
i assume Revenge and Blast Master's passive are since one is bullet damage and the other is explosive damage, but im not sure about Pay Back
peak ether
You'd be shocked what you learn if you actually experiment and try things instead of only using what YT tells you
orchid berry
You'd be shocked what you learn if you actually experiment and try things instea...
yuck borderlands youtubers are terrible, I assure you my biases are thanks to my own poor gameplay thank you very much
peak ether
is stuff like Revenge and Blast Master and Pay Back multiplicative with each oth...
Pay Back just gives boosts to a lot of dmg types and yes Revenge and Blast Master should multiply
which is how Brick dmg gets so absurdly high
Two giant boosts multipling each other
maxed out profs also give you a 42% weapon dmg increase
grand terrace
Hottie 😄
tall surge
mordy does also get some pretty crazy peak dps with gun crazy/relentless/deadly/killer
peak ether
oh yeah absolutely
it's just I don't think he has many sources of dmg multiplication
lemme check
yeah he only has 2 bullet dmg sources in his trees
and one of those is Trespass
peak ether
and one of those is Trespass
and the other is tied to rng
leaden stag
mordi does the fumny sentimels farm
peak ether
his only always up dmg buffs are crit and gun dmg
leaden stag
otherwise orion and pray
quiet python
im probably just a big idiot but i have 0 clue how to get this quest in old haven
peak ether
his only always up dmg buffs are crit and gun dmg
so your only option for dmg multiplication shenanigans are Trespass, Relentless, and the Assassin com
quiet python
I go in the building and theres nothing and I cant get on the roof
peak ether
im probably just a big idiot but i have 0 clue how to get this quest in old have...
you have to complete the main quest in the area first
then the claptrap will spawn
quiet python
oh okay
peak ether
but yeah Mordy's dps is high but Brick's can out dps him
Keyword can
You aren't always in situations where that's doable
real oracle
so from what I read here this would probably be a more accurate list
i would still swap moze and zane just cuz zane's potential is rng, moze's isn't. and her rng potential that is, is true infinite
zane's highest potential is very high but very rng dependant compared to moze
and then amara can just press f to instantly delete a room
..flak is flak, flak formula good
quiet python
so from what I read here this would probably be a more accurate list
aurelia over brick is kinda wack, same with lilith
real oracle
aurelia over brick is kinda wack, same with lilith
it's only compared to within their own game
even then bl3 will have the most even spread
just cuz how insane each vh is in thatgame
but having zane a higher potential than moze is just wrong
quiet python
oh so its like comparing the roster per game? i was a bit confused for a sec 😭
but wait i see claptrap and jack
real oracle
cuz moze has a higher potential than every vh in the series added together, minus sal
and this is not rng
no setup.
just spawn in, shoot boss
and zane is easier to build for just cuz funny 1000% or more gun damage off a tier 1 
so i would def swap moze and zane
quiet python
still makes me question the easiest to clear all content tab when brick is right there
real oracle
"easiest to clear content" makes no sense to me tbh
quiet python
most braindead basically
real oracle
cuz im way more comfortable clearing content with amara than the others
real oracle
that's just bl3
quiet python
which is why im saying brick because lilith isnt that good
real oracle
she really isnt tbh
quiet python
with brick you literally run at your enemy and spam left click
hes fun but hes very easy to clear the content with
lilith is just a fancy ghost mode with a blast that does bad damage
real oracle
cuz with amara you can just..do an action skill build
and bam the entire room is gone
or do what 90% of new players do
use ties that bind
"wow the entire room is gone!"
and they always figure out hellzerker on their own
quiet python
i havent played a ton of bl2 besides a full playthrough with krieg but maya seems kinda boring compared to the others
all she does is lift up an enemy
unless im misunderstanding her power
quiet python
yeah that seems boring 😭 same thing with axton and roland but i guess its preference
orchid berry
having played both Moze and Zane alot, I found that Zane is more gear dependant, but Zane having a shitzillion movespeed and being in two places at once means faster and safer clears. If you crunch numbers moze may well take it tbh, its a hard thing to parse just off personal experience.
quiet python
by far
real oracle
zane just wahoo violent momentum
quiet python
tbf last time i played bl3 was when her iron bear sucked ass and the ideal build was the bloodletter shield
real oracle
that was an extremely long time ago then
quiet python
Yeah probably a couple months after game came out 😭
orchid berry
it's nice to see iron bear be so good, and iron cub is still there if you want it to feel more fair. Very happy where she ended up
quiet python
If i remember right flak or moze was the worst out of them, amara was the best, then zane, and then flak or moze interchanged
maybe im remembering zane and flak different so they may have been 2 or 3rd
real oracle
these days they're all basically even and easy to make braindead
real oracle
it's nice to see iron bear be so good, and iron cub is still there if you want i...
bear is far weaker than moze tho
orders of magnitude weaker
funny short fuse
me when short fuse isnt even rng
the main thing about moze is:
due to how much of her damage comes from double dipping, having splash is what makes or breaks a gun for her
everyone else sorta just picks up a gun and goes to town
peak ether
with brick you literally run at your enemy and spam left click
Every Bl1 VH clears content easily
because it's an easy game in general
quiet python
Yeah so its a dumb tier to have 😭
peak ether
Tier listing the Bl1 VHs is stupid because they're dead even
cunning sable
So whats the most difficult
Bl2?
peak ether
even Roland is equally good as the other 3
quiet python
Speaking of 2, what happend to salvador and axton? I dont think we ever see them again after 2 no?
copper wasp
Speaking of 2, what happend to salvador and axton? I dont think we ever see them...
They show up again in 3
real oracle
they host a game show
copper wasp
Though most of it's in stuff related to Arms Race there
quiet python
Oh okay, I thought they just showed up for 2 and dipped out for the rest of the series
copper wasp
Axton make some small cameos in 3's base game on a few skins and random magazines as well
cunning sable
Axton was in tps as well
He was in Holodome
quiet python
I dont remember seeing gaige thooouuugh? Is she in 3 aswell?
cunning sable
Yes
quiet python
I know theres some backstory quests for krieg in 3
cunning sable
Shes a main.part of dlc2
cunning sable
I know theres some backstory quests for krieg in 3
Hes the centerpiece of dlc 4
quiet python
Thats cool, ill be replaying 3 soon after not playing since launch so 😭
opal ingot
apparently torgue e tech shotguns are called splatters
real oracle
huh they made a name for them?
opal ingot
apparnetly
opal ingot
i might make like
a video where i'm just fucking around with non legit e techs
i can't seem to be able to make a jakobs alien sniper
real oracle
jakobs doesnt even have one
tho if it cant find the manu it gets the default name
did you have sanity check off ig
opal ingot
i have sanity check off
real oracle
just force the alien barrel onto it idk
real oracle
skill issue
opal ingot
real oracle
that does so little crit damage 
opal ingot
anything else i can try
real oracle
wow vorac has almost as much hp as true hag
even with a way higher % scaling per level in bl2
hag keeps up
@wheat harbor how do i calculate this hp
this is wrong
what uhh
cunning sable
anything else i can try
Etech tourge launchers?
real oracle
yoo who that
cunning sable
Is that Disturbed
opal ingot
yes
opal ingot
nopers
opal ingot
yeah no this shit sucks and will always suck
opal ingot
yeah no this shit sucks and will always suck
anyway bl3 time
real oracle
so for some reason vorac is pulling out a factor of 2.6 out of thin air
glass vessel
this might be
Blud is jamming
real oracle
cuz vorac doesnt seem to count as a badass or..whatever the fuck a champion is
opal ingot
elite
real oracle
and it's also slightly higher than 2.6
tawdry shell
got one with quick charge :3
also for some reason i can't seem to find level 80 gear?
real oracle
bl1 reference
tawdry shell
i thought maybe it was this? but disabling it doesn't seem to change it
unless 80 drops are tied to raids
real oracle
your suck
tawdry shell
im 99% positive it does
cunning sable
Woa what
I can definitely see it changes the scaling
tawdry shell
lol yeah
cunning sable
300ish damage is tiny
tawdry shell
blassic got bl1 sacling down fairly well i think
jesus this thing is strong when all explosions hit
maybe the damage on it is always low because of that
cunning sable
Sawbar is cracked if you use it right
tawdry shell
oh my god wait i can use this on terra
tawdry shell
Sawbar is cracked if you use it right
yea ik i just didn't think it'd be as strong compared to my current ar cause the damage was so much lower
i wish this com had assault
would've been really good
opal ingot
vladof ammo regen +0.00
huge
opal ingot
free thinkers
glass vessel
yoo we got 0.00 ammo regen
Lmaooo what’s the point of the spec
tawdry shell
bad part :(
wheat harbor
this is wrong
does vorac count as a badass? cause you havent included the uvhm stuff
real oracle
uhh the aipawn had no badass or champion tag
but it did seem to?
i also found like a champion multiplier of 2.625 which was MUCH closer to the hp
but i have no idea where it's used
grand terrace
this is insane
tawdry shell
im just tryna transfer loot what the fuck
rough galleon
Zer0 seen some things
tawdry shell
damn what are the chances
atomic stirrup
Roland is no clipped into the warden robot and I can’t turn in the quest
What do I do?
cunning sable
Savequit?
tall surge
damn what are the chances
4
tawdry shell
ah figured it was 5
cunning sable
I think its 3
lofty flame
Holy shit its the game with the funny rat
tawdry shell
obtuse crown
PAIN
lunar hound
Krieg in c is kinda wild
trim hinge
i hate krieg
lunar hound
why
trim hinge
he annoys me
lunar hound
how
real oracle
@wheat harbor why no sound
lunar hound
oh i see the trend
trim hinge
i dont like playing him
trim hinge
i dont like playing him
wheat harbor
krieg sux
trim hinge
i know how to play him i just dont like him
real oracle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643679940730159107/1173286280696705065/my...
putting zane in s and amara in a is objectively incorrect
lunar hound
krieg only sucks when he doesnt have kill skills
real oracle
but i dont blame you for it
lunar hound
Which im trying to fix but certain things arent working
trim hinge
putting zane in s and amara in a is objectively incorrect
i would move amara in S tier now a days tbh
real oracle
good
wheat harbor
i just think krieg is whackadoodly designed
trim hinge
i think i need to update
lunar hound
i just think krieg is whackadoodly designed
His reliance on kill skills is strange
real oracle
not really i think
lunar hound
im aiming to fix it but the multipliers aint multiplying
wheat harbor
not even that
real oracle
it's just how little he has that arent kill skills
wheat harbor
silence the voices is just
tupid
bloodlust skills are terribly balanced for the effort
trim hinge
updated
real oracle
nah bro aint no way 💀
trim hinge
who put that there
astral dragon
i hate krieg
@wind marlin
wind marlin
it’s ok amara in S makes up for it
also aurelia and timothy in S tier makes up for krieg in D (i’d respect it regardless)
cunning sable
nah bro aint no way 💀
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lunar hound
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real oracle
no
trim hinge
darn
wheat harbor
peak gaming performance
snowbound?
trim hinge
yes
trim hinge
poof
fast idol
Ended up doing dragons instead of Terra for my first raid boss solo (besides Gee), though it was with Sal. At least, I found out the Neogenator's regen is pretty nice.
leaden stag
cc for their tiny heads is kinda wild
fast idol
cc for their tiny heads is kinda wild
Nah, the CC was to snipe them midair; I used Grog+Harold when they were grounded.
lunar hound
peak gaming performance
Im gonna need multiple explanations on what the fuck is going on
wind token
he annoys me
DID YOU JUST SAY
trim hinge
Im gonna need multiple explanations on what the fuck is going on
gaming
glass vessel
tawdry shell
wokelands !!!! 
glass vessel
Knoxx dlc is basically like 4 things
Moxxi is a queen
Knoxx has the attitude of a soccer mom
Athena is a badass
Crimson Lance gay
tawdry shell
all peak 🗣️
cold sorrel
Level 34 siren, true vault seeker mode, looking for someone to complete the game with
34 уровень сирена, режим истинный искатель хранилища, ищу с кем пройти игру
tawdry shell
this is the wrong chat, use #lfg-pc-bl2
cold sorrel
sry
tawdry shell
all good
cosmic flame
@tawdry shell I want to do a playthrough and want help but can't see #no Access
finite notch
trim hinge
preference
orchid berry
I am legit shook on Salvador and Moze being dead middle, but otherwise surprisingly close to how I feel (not big on timothy though tbh)
fair sluice
Level 34 siren, true vault seeker mode, looking for someone to complete the game...
true vault seeker
glass vessel
true vault seeker <:mozeHueh:712237380073160704>
I be seeking vaults tbh
rough galleon
i dont
i be seeking xp
rough galleon
h a t
low heath
tawdry shell
cunning sable
Wrong eye color, invalid
fast idol
Well I did get a Hide with that odd increase disabled while farming with a Maya... but I think the parts suck ass given the massive difference in roid damage.
peak ether
thats even more expensive <:mayaCri:674205896519319572>
Just like farm Iwajira
rough galleon
Valid
wind token
she's the most boring bl3 character for me now a days
gaige player
lunar hound
matching grip roksalt isnt too bad
it still take the pounder
also holy mother of camera quality
modest forum
Yeah... I only do this when necessary.
cunning sable
Why do you have a bandit ar
modest forum
Why do you have a bandit ar
It deals shock damage.... also it's my only good AR at this time..... I still need something better.
lunar hound
from the looks of it you have an okay vladof fire ar
if you want a good ar farm like haderax
cunning sable
Oh my god that hornet is abysmal
cunning sable
Is that Twin hyperion
modest forum
from the looks of it you have an okay vladof fire ar
The only reason why I not using the vladof is because it deals fire and I already have a Hellfire that can deal fire damage.
modest forum
I need to fix my camera one of these days.
lunar hound
your op10
modest forum
Are you talking about all of my gear or just my guns I showing off?
cunning sable
That hellfire is ok
modest forum
your gear
Mosty due to I work full time and I do not have alot of time to farm for gear.
At the moment anyways.
lunar hound
no but 'how tf did you get to op10
modest forum
I had help.
modest forum
Do not expect all op10 players to have the best gear.
lunar hound
i suggest getting a slagga and a better ar
lunar hound
Do not expect all op10 players to have the best gear.
i mean
modest forum
I have a slag Grenade. Plus my saber turrets also deal slag.
lunar hound
i would expect smn on op10 to at the very least have an actual build
cunning sable
Slag turrets are handy but not really consistent
Your not getting them out all the time
modest forum
Listen I really do not have time to build a proper build ok.
cunning sable
Ok no not grog
lunar hound
nvm ur axton
cunning sable
You do not need that crutch
lunar hound
me when kreig:
modest forum
Also I am getting by just fine with the gear I have. I am not completely useless.
modest forum
Listen I need to get to bed. I got work in the morning and it's gonna be hot tomorrow. I really not in the mood to talk how bad my build is. All I wanted to ask is wich of the shotguns I should use that's it.
lunar hound
okay
well just use the torgue one
just dont use bandit stuff unless its for a specific reason (or if the bandit is a sawbar)
quiet python
uhm- am i missing something, when i was up there nobody spawned
i think im too early
tawdry shell
uhm- am i missing something, when i was up there nobody spawned
you meet the other squads as you go along the main mission
that's checkpoint is where you go back to turn in the mission
quiet python
goooooootcha
wheat harbor
@real oracle so i had an idea
real oracle
i saw
tawdry shell
melee marth grab range
south hamlet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1111107989265461288/1275341226459136010/2...
b0rtal k0mbat
heady marten
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1111107989265461288/1275341226459136010/2...
That's awesome
fast idol
Soloing Terra was pretty annoying, but dunno if it's by design or skill issue.
tall surge
Could be both
modest forum
okay
Sorry if I was an ass last night. Ever since I met this one individual in an AC6 server (who's name I won't metenion) I get testy when people questions my builds.
And if you are wondering what kind of individual he is
..... well let's just say he is over the top toxic kind of person who will call all of your builds trash and shows you what you should use and forces it on you no matter what..... let's just say thanks to him I do not take structure criticism form players I hardly even know so well. Especially if they say up right that your build is trash from the gek go.
fast idol
Godroll Evolution while farming Hyperius with a friend. No fleet though.
quiet python
im in a predicament for brick
i know the hammer is usually better but im a level 43 now and that damage is lacking
peak ether
Sorry if I was an ass last night. Ever since I met this one individual in an AC6...
Honestly w/ bl2 it's hard to accidentally make a skill spec absolute garbage because of skill point inflation
peak ether
i know the hammer is usually better but im a level 43 now and that damage is lac...
Crux is about equal to it in effective power
peak ether
Honestly w/ bl2 it's hard to accidentally make a skill spec absolute garbage bec...
almost all of your power is in your gear which is a massive chore to farm so I don't blame you
quiet python
lfg
quiet python
Crux is about equal to it in effective power
that seems better
quiet python
max dmg roll
is that good?
peak ether
I honestly prefer the Crux because the cross pattern is easier to land than the Hammer's hammer pattern
yes these guns have unique spread patterns
peak ether
is that good?
ye
quiet python
i was also using a helix but swapped it for this, damage diff again
quiet python
my only gimmick with it is the 3 rockets per fire but it works pretty well most of the time
peak ether
yes these guns have unique spread patterns
I don't even know if accuracy affects these guns at all
peak ether
my only gimmick with it is the 3 rockets per fire but it works pretty well most ...
I don't hate it cuz it's bad I hate it because the Gbx legs are boring af and serve very little purpose other than to market a worse version of the game
leaden stag
oh hey finally a server profile that isnt rainbowy
peak ether
?
tawdry shell
wym by that
trim hinge
lapis dust
LEGENDARY MED KIT
wheat harbor
Honestly w/ bl2 it's hard to accidentally make a skill spec absolute garbage bec...
youd be surprised how many shit skills there are tho
lapis dust
why he do that
opal ingot
cuz
rough galleon
the reason why is
tawdry shell
yeah but what about
opal ingot
no i think the
tawdry shell
opal ingot
yeah that
rough galleon
thank you for the TED talk
lapis dust
oops
leaden stag
wym by that
too many colors for a game where we are shooty mcshooty
I did say I hate the unicornsplosion before
tawdry shell
i still don't really follow, the BL games (besides 1) are all very colorful for the most part
rough galleon
Even 1 if the elemental DoT is triggered xd
tawdry shell
true
leaden stag
I think its easier to sum it up as I was bored of the server profile
this one is kinda bland will prolly bore me in half the time the other did
but hey new server pfp
rough galleon
Almost halloween
Maybe orange and black is next
leaden stag
If its a pumpkin I might shoot mcshooty myself
modest forum
Any AR and shotguns I should keep my eye out for. Not gonna lie the 2 I have here are not really useful.
leaden stag
bandits are pretty cheeks
you generally want ravagers or hulks for torgue shotties
to an extent torgue AR kiiiinda work
lapis dust
first legendary out the box
leaden stag
Im sorry for your loss
lapis dust
Im sorry for your loss
it works fine with cryo
leaden stag
cant crit, I'll take my chances with purple torgue ARs
rough galleon
congratz on the legendary
peak ether
Kerboom is a pretty good AR
leaden stag
I can pass the kerblaster but why did kerbloom get reduced fire rate
peak ether
to an extent torgue AR kiiiinda work
Torgue ARs are great on Axton
rough galleon
the self nades are probs a non-issue for TPS due to the low gravity tho
leaden stag
how much deepwr do you wanna bury this gun
I find the explosive damage+critting makes kerboom even less relevant
peak ether
It still works
leaden stag
if you say so, still grinder food for me
peak ether
But I will agree Spitters are straight better
leaden stag
I kinda wanna play tps
kinda
might spin a coin between warframe and tps
or uh trading on warframe whhile I play tps
tempting
peak ether
I'd play it more if lvling wasn't 
lapis dust
if you say so, still grinder food for me
i would grind it if i was max level
leaden stag
I gave up and play with ucp on solo
the xp gain after ultimate is inhumane
plus i technically already got my chars to 70 legitimately I just lost the saves
peak ether
I'd play it more if lvling wasn't <:athenaBored:567650091708579840>
my only real issue outside lack of stuff to do but my main game is Bl1 which has about as much as Tps does anyways
lapis dust
what is ucp
peak ether
unofficial community patch
leaden stag
basically it doubles xp on ultimate and adds some specific drop sources
peak ether
the xp gain after ultimate is inhumane
I hate it
leaden stag
so what should have been in the base game anyway
peak ether
Idk about drop sources
leaden stag
I meant bosses can drop specific gear now
peak ether
I hate dedi farming so the fact Tps dialed it back is a blessing to me
leaden stag
they also made jakobs blue sniper not fucking worse than greens
they dialed it back by making you cry on the grinder
drop rates are kinda crap too
peak ether
they dialed it back by making you cry on the grinder
Fair
modest forum
What you guys think? Raw power or better accuracy?
leaden stag
Power
peak ether
Grinder is just dedi farming w/ extra steps
lapis dust
i ❤️ thingy
leaden stag
wait actually
under that basically no bullets shotty prefix hyperion one I feel might do better
if it had an element
lapis dust
Grinder is just dedi farming w/ extra steps
iwajira farming with extra steps
modest forum
under that basically no bullets shotty prefix hyperion one I feel might do bette...
Thank you! Been stuck on the pounder has been of no help.
leaden stag
with axton swap speed are you just using your nades to slag?
peak ether
iwajira farming with extra steps
thankfully EOS is an actually fun world drop farm
leaden stag
EOS when the wait for him to open his eye is longer than his first phase
peak ether
me when Mongol
leaden stag
but mongol is no fun I wanna hit the big red eye
peak ether
Mongol can 1 phase him
tawdry shell
i love the mongol so much
peak ether
w/ some help from the Laser Disker
lapis dust
thankfully EOS is an actually fun world drop farm
why do people hate him
modest forum
with axton swap speed are you just using your nades to slag?
Pretty much. But only when my Saber turrets are down.
lapis dust
all i can think is invulerability phases and the area is monkey water
leaden stag
I hate EOS arena more than the boss himself
modest forum
Here is my skills
leaden stag
it fucking sucks and the cover is useless
peak ether
why do people hate him
because he's a hard fight the game throws at you w/ zero warning
leaden stag
because haha autotracking and walls dont work
peak ether
so if you have no idea he's coming it makes for a not fun time
lapis dust
because he's a hard fight the game throws at you w/ zero warning
i didnt find him terribly difficult first time but the arena sucks
leaden stag
and since its the tradition fuck you the floor is lava
peak ether
once you do know he's coming you can prepare for it thankfully
leaden stag
you can only stand on the platforms that make you an easy target
lapis dust
half the fight was dropping onto lower platforms or lava though
modest forum
Some times I even wonder why I ever put my skills on here knowing some one will say it sucks right away...
leaden stag
If you are that afraid of criticism just copy the builds or just play them yourself
dk what else to tell you
modest forum
Sorry
peak ether
Some times I even wonder why I ever put my skills on here knowing some one will ...
imo if you're confident if your build works there's zero point asking others what their thoughts are
modest forum
I was not even asking about my how I set my skill tree.
real oracle
Some times I even wonder why I ever put my skills on here knowing some one will ...
hey if i'm ever a dick about it don't take me seriously
also the last time i talked you had a fairly solid build but def room for optimizations
which is fine
no one immediately knows what to do
rough galleon
Here is my skills
I personally would max out Sentry, Ready and Steady if you want to use your sentry and torgue/tediore reload dmg to its fullest
cunning sable
Its not tbat its bad its just not what i would use
That looks pretty standard axton
real oracle
honestly i saw your spec at firsy glance and it look fine to me
rough galleon
yeah, they look fine
real oracle
a few personal changes i'd make but only purely personal
peak ether
Some times I even wonder why I ever put my skills on here knowing some one will ...
also Tiasma was saying the EOS arena sucks not your build
cunning sable
Personally i max out all t1 skills for max use of Legendary soilder
modest forum
also Tiasma was saying the EOS arena sucks not your build
Ohhh......
real oracle
real oracle
yeah i remember seein you around, i dont rember anyone bein rude to you about your builds
modest forum
it fucking sucks and the cover is useless
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
real oracle
i'd say it's ok to make mistakes here but honestly you haven't made much of any
leaden stag
leg
rough galleon
leg
modest forum
I apologize for the miss understanding in an Armored core 6 server I use to be in I had to deal with this over the top Meta player who would call every casual build 100 percent trash.
lapis dust
leg
lapis dust
I apologize for the miss understanding in an Armored core 6 server I use to be i...
sounds like he needs to build some social skills over game builds
peak ether
I apologize for the miss understanding in an Armored core 6 server I use to be i...
Reminds me of a certain LoR player I know
rough galleon
but the internet is a wonderful place
cunning sable
Its ok to make mistakes
makes one mistake
Your an absolute idiot and deserve ALL the ridicule!!!!!
rough galleon
😦
modest forum
He was so bad I had to leave that server. But that ass ended up living in my head.... some times still does.
real oracle
bl3 is way easier to mess up builds on and my favorite part is that people who are probably even more clueless than you are the ones who are toxic about it
tho the bl3 nerds are very uhhh snide
about it
including me
and im not a nerd or that good at it
cunning sable
Your slowly turning into one of them...
peak ether
Reminds me of a certain LoR player I know
the second a new player posts their decks in that server it instantly gets flamed
modest forum
Also do not get me started on the harassment I had to deal with that guy.
real oracle
Your slowly turning into one of them...
hey being a bit of a dickhead about it is funny
..just a bit
before actually talking about it
rough galleon
Reminds me of a certain LoR player I know
you know, I thought LoR stood for Lord of the Rings and not Legend of Runeterra for a bit
rough galleon
yeah I was confused LOL
peak ether
Legend of Runeterra is a real game!?
peak ether
I was talking about Library of Ruina
peak ether
YOU KNOW WHAT PM IS!?
peak ether
and yeah, its a Riot card game
immediatly not interested
rough galleon
still havent finished Lobotomy Corporation but I did finish all the cantos in Limbus Company :V
and based
cunning sable
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_550050151151_551005151500_410150151000
This build sickens me but it keeps everything i like from her other trees
And involves discord looping
peak ether
still havent finished Lobotomy Corporation but I did finish all the cantos in Li...
I was playing Ruina today actually
rough galleon
why does it sicken you? is it just cuz it has Anarchy cuz it seems fine
modest forum
Welp found a slag shot gun. Gonna give it a try.
peak ether
currently at Urban Nightmare
rough galleon
I was playing Ruina today actually
its too pricey for me rn, I want to try it one day 😦
cunning sable
Yes
I absolutely despise Anarchy in every shape fashion and degree
rough galleon
but all Ive heard was its really good LOL
peak ether
it's worth it
rough galleon
duly noted
rough galleon
Yes
I absolutely despise Anarchy in every shape fashion and degree
and fair enough xd
rough galleon
Welp found a slag shot gun. Gonna give it a try.
Hyperion shotguns my love
cunning sable
This is normally what i run
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_555155151151_551125151500_400000000000
lapis dust
SAMSUNG TV SPOTTED
cunning sable
This is normally what i run
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/gaige#_555155151151_...
Just to let you know i made it to lv 80 with this build
rough galleon
its feel criminal to not have BSS but I guess Anarchy is the roadblock
cunning sable
Another reason i hate Anarchy
Im forced to take it
I have this same problem with Claptrap in tps but i can actually still happily ignore his red tree and only miss on Death Machine
rough galleon
kinda like Aurelia's Contractual Aristocracy tree, there's some nice skills you can get for solo but you have to waste 3 points which will do nothing for you
peak ether
I have this same problem with Claptrap in tps but i can actually still happily i...
I actually like red tree tbh
rough galleon
same
but understand the hate on Safety First
good thing Cryogenic Exhaust Manifold can deduct Frag Stacks, I abuse that shit the most if I hate the subroutine Im on LOL
cunning sable
I dont like the idea of being forced to use a weapon type for maximum dps
rough galleon
thats fair
cunning sable
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/claptrap#_55511511051_555001511551_0300000000000
I think thats what i usually run
rough galleon
HIGH FIVE GUYS, LETS GOOOO
rough galleon
yee, I love how you can use melee from enemies to proc it
modest forum
Random weapon drop of the night. Hate it that it's only OP8.
rough galleon
we love rng
modest forum
But I will say it's a better choice then..... this.
cunning sable
Yeah just theow the baby maker and youll kill things a lot faster then a crappy bandit ar
leaden stag
its worse that they arent fire nor corro but I guess you just gotta chuck more
modest forum
its worse that they arent fire nor corro but I guess you just gotta chuck more
I mosty planning on popping shields then use eather my Hellfire or my Hornet. Depends on the enemy.
rough galleon
highly recommend using a shock or explosive for shields nvm it is shock, ignore my stupidness
tawdry shell
yeah download it
quiet python
uhuh
do i slap the binaries folder in my bl2 binaries folder
or like merge them yk
im sorry im going off of 5 year old tutorials 💀
tawdry shell
just merge that binaries folder with the existing one
quiet python
alrighty thats what i thought
tawdry shell
place binares on top binaires
tawdry shell
yep
quiet python
is this supposed to be in russian
tawdry shell
if you wanna tinker with more stuff i'd also recommend bl2fix
quiet python
unless thats how it usually is
tawdry shell
is this supposed to be in russian
yes cause it's vladof
vladof is a russian company
quiet python
oh okay
uh- its a jakobs
well actually its a gearbox weapon but the brand is jakobs
tawdry shell
well actually its a gearbox weapon but the brand is jakobs
vladof sight
on your gun
weapon parts are tied to manufactures
cunning sable
Low is off
quiet python
i cant mess with it even if i wanted to
tawdry shell
good it's dumb
quiet python
oddly enough
leaden stag
all physx does is make slag look like jizz
trim hinge
nah its LEAN
leaden stag
also slows down your game stupidly
tawdry shell
nah its LEAN
leaden stag
I was expecting a lean emote
quiet python
i dont remember a lot but i remember shes a lying hoe
peak ether
tbf Jack has a proverbial gun to her head
cunning sable
I dunno if they always intended her to be an AI only but thays what it seemed like in 1
peak ether
it was most def a retcon
quiet python
is there no number telling me how far i am from the waypoint anymore?
copper wasp
Nope
rough galleon
Was only in bl1 enchanted
tall surge
https://tenor.com/view/carnage-venom-venom-let-there-be-carnage-lean-carnage-car...
Yoooo purple like ror2 lobter
tawdry shell
quaint
quiet python
does the midgetmong always drop this or did i get lucky
tawdry shell
does the midgetmong always drop this or did i get lucky
10% drop chance
cunning sable
10%
quiet python
oh sweet
inner lantern
time for a chronological order playthrough
9 toes killed in 1 shot
ill take my prize money
austere sierra
@proud flame
opal ingot
bro's using a white jakobs pistol at level 34 
glass vessel
quiet python
damn thats just kinda racist no? 💀
cunning sable
Sirens are rare and valuable, so not really
heady marten
Salvador absolutely nailed it with the mugshot face
shell bone
2 of my cursed creations with Spare Parts Mod
also I think all the BLCM mods I merged with the UCP broke Maliwan Gem Snipers
rough galleon
damn thats just kinda racist no? 💀
Still funny that despite her rarity
Other vhs has a higher bounty
glass vessel
glass vessel
LMFAOOOOO
heady marten
I never knew if "hey, you seen my gun?" was meaning that he lost his firearm and was hoping you saw it, if it was a threat that if you didn't leave him alone he would shoot at you, or that he simply wanted to show off his quality weapon.
cunning sable
All of them
deep brook
cunning sable
https://www.lootlemon.com/class/zer0#_5050515551_5005515501_5050510000
The last 5 points you can put anywhere really but this is usually the main setup
lofty flame
Weep, cry, mayhaps seethe, mald and cope, even
trim hinge
:(
rough galleon
i cant buy it
just like me
frfr
tawdry shell
i cant buy it
just get more money ????? 
trim hinge
how to print money
quiet python
just search some lockers
lofty flame
how to print money
Just print it lmao
rough galleon
Mission Objective: Rob a bank
lofty flame
Mission Objective: :3
trim hinge
no element which is killer
otherwise very good
no
thats bandit grip which is 2nd best
lofty flame
The people in #lfg-switch-bl2 do
quiet python
im sorry, is the goliaths transformation literally them extending their spinal cord??
modest forum
Allright what kind of Unkempt Harold should I farm for? I am the point where I need to find Sanctuary wich is now in the sky's and I thought why not get an Harold.
This one I just got on the first try.
real oracle
matching grip ideally first
then whatever accessory you want is less important but helps a lot
hard, intense, and double are usually your best bet
modest forum
I try the Explicit version. Not a fan of the spread.
tall surge
I try the Explicit version. Not a fan of the spread.
Explicit goog
For the bullet speed
modest forum
So.... should I give this fastball a try?
tall surge
Yeah sure
modest forum
Unkempt Harold number 2. Anybody wants this? If not I will just get rid of it later.
orchid coyote
dropped flakker from handsome sorcerer
modest forum
i dont doubt it'll kill shit cuz it's a harold but
I still gonna keep farming till eather bed time or when I get a decent one.
trim hinge
might be the worst harold i dun ever seen
modest forum
here's a reference https://bl2.parts/pistols/
Thanks.
I not gonna look for the best Harold just a decent one.
rough galleon
getting perfect anything in BL2 is just a pain in general
rough galleon
relatable
peak ether
Bl1 cars being Bl1 cars
glass vessel
The second one is wild
tawdry shell
i love the racer so much
glass vessel
LMFAOOOOO
peak ether
The second one is wild
I love how I know exactly where that is
modest forum
Meet number 4. And no I am not gonna retake the picture.
peak ether
I love how I know exactly where that is
It's the first ramp on the crimson tollway
peak ether
Meet number 4. And no I am not gonna retake the picture.
that's a good one
my favorite sight too
modest forum
Good. Then I can be done farming then.
glass vessel
I love how I know exactly where that is
I’m so happy to be done I would love knoxx dlc more if I I didn’t have to drive everywhere
orchid coyote
here's a reference https://bl2.parts/pistols/
is dpuh with torgue grip best if i don’t wanna farm too much?
tawdry shell
I’m so happy to be done I would love knoxx dlc more if I I didn’t have to drive ...
honestly i enjoy the driving
rough galleon
is dpuh with torgue grip best if i don’t wanna farm too much?
matching grip is usually if not always the best
+mag and reload spd is a nice dps+
also DPUH is debatable if its "the best" on which VH
but there is no "best" since each encounter is situational on what element/weapon would work better
orchid coyote
also DPUH is debatable if its "the best" on which VH
but there is no "best" sin...
it’s my first time running sal, would it be good for him?
i’m just using a conference call and sand hawk rn
also mainly lady fist
glass vessel
honestly i enjoy the driving
At first I do but by the end when Marcus is making me drive back and forth everywhere I’m juts reloading the game to turn in quests LOL
tawdry shell
fair enough, i haven’t done too much of the side missions in that dlc for a while now
rough galleon
it’s my first time running sal, would it be good for him?
to quote Funko, "dpuh intense and hard are all interchangeable but dp falls off on sal specifically (i know, contrary to belief)"
quiet python
relatable
tawdry shell
fair enough, i haven’t done too much of the side missions in that dlc for a whil...
i really like the driving aspect if im doing armory runs, ik theres faster ways but just taking a nice drive through the maps, kill a boss, and grab some guns is a nice time waster
real oracle
it’s my first time running sal, would it be good for him?
absolutely not
double becomes garbage once you spec no kill like overkill
for a funny 100% dps loss
give or take
rough galleon
its really funny how every Youtuber spams DPUH as the best gun whilst playing Salv but doesn't realize its nerfing themselves
real oracle
mainly cuz no one really knows how nklok works
not many people ever mentioned the pellet count thing, everyone thought it was just some magic 500% damage multiplier
even i didnt know this myself up until 1 or 2 years ago
for a while a lot of us even said dp was most worth on sal until zeta showed up
turns out it's the other way around
or just straight up don't use dp
wheat harbor
for a while a lot of us even said dp was most worth on sal until zeta showed up
ur welcome
rough galleon
thank you number guys xd
wheat harbor
its mostly just
having way too much knowledge about how the bl2 engine works
real oracle
i have looked at overkill before that and saw the divider but didnt think anything of it
wheat harbor
yeah
real oracle
thank you number guys xd
zeta is bad at math
wheat harbor
HEY
real oracle
you havent even taken vector calculus yet
wheat harbor
its just
putting together the fact that its postadd and how gearbox "fixed" amp shields
real oracle
smh
wheat harbor
you havent even taken vector calculus yet
im not even in uni anymore
wheat harbor
not many people ever mentioned the pellet count thing, everyone thought it was j...
i feel like a lot of people dont actually think about how its only your last since instance of overkill damage too
rough galleon
zeta is bad at math
better than me LOL
real oracle
yeah that too
wheat harbor
so like
its terrible with multipellet guns even without the double division
because its more weak hits
where nklok wants big single hits
but even then it can be whack because enemies vary in health
real oracle
i also looked at the deliverance too and didnt think anything of it
wheat harbor
so you can have your overkill damage get oblittereated because a dot just barely killed an enemy
theres also the shenanigans about the mouthwash relic which was me
real oracle
so you can have your overkill damage get oblittereated because a dot just barely...
ok that's pushin it too far cuz when has a dot killed an enemy
esp considering most sal players use jakobs shotguns these days
wheat harbor
true
real oracle
i think idk, it's either dippa or deputy
wheat harbor
or it can just be overkill barely pushes your over an enemies health
real oracle
real
wheat harbor
so then you end up with a pathetic bonus
real oracle
uncapping overkill was some of the most fun i've actually had
it was too strong but still
wheat harbor
what i need to figure out is like
making it so it only overrides the bonus if the new overkill damage is weaker than the old overkill damage
real oracle
really high octane gameplay with use it or lose it
i might even pull a bl3
where it's based on the next shot but indefinite time
nah actually i like bullet hosing more
real oracle
theres also the shenanigans about the mouthwash relic which was me
smh all ive discovered is that car crash damage is not explosive
apparently a few people already knew car weapons are tediore anyway so i get half credit for that
trim hinge
skill
trim hinge
tawdry shell
peak
inner lantern
it was TODAY i found out BL1 runner had a "lockon" feature for the rocket if you press space.
opal ingot
not just the runner
every car has it
leaden stag
I just run things over
rose lava
i can finally brag on killing him fast
tall surge
i can finally brag on killing him fast
rose lava
<:mozeHueh:712237380073160704>
Just salvador being salvador
eager laurel
i can finally brag on killing him fast
get tn monk
trim hinge
show em ur skill rigby
glass vessel
I just run things over
Real
quiet python
ive gotta be blind as shit because i cannot find the way to get to the enkindling quest
Those 2 little pathways to it require me to go up and I cant
tawdry shell
ive gotta be blind as shit because i cannot find the way to get to the enkindlin...
your on the final objective right?
quiet python
yeah
tawdry shell
just go the path you took to get to lilith
tawdry shell
👍
cunning sable
Yeah people confuse him with the risk of rain character a lot
What was his name, arbiter?
tawdry shell
idk he’s not really important to the story
only added in for chief to have a crush on, the romance section of the story was a bit odd but i won’t complain
cunning sable
Real weird for a rougelike to have a one off dating segment
tawdry shell
waiting for the ror dating sim 🙏
cunning sable
Commando has to date the entire ror enemy cast
trim hinge
oh ok
cunning sable
looks pretty bad
no damage accuracy or mag
trim hinge
ikr
tawdry shell
just throw the gun itself and hope it lights someone on fire
tawdry shell
bl essentials mod bugs out the ui for quest rewards
it’s cause of uhhh
editable base maps iirc
trim hinge
ah
tawdry shell
it needs some fixes i believe
trim hinge
thats wacky
tawdry shell
like some missions you just
don’t get a reward
or like when i got my elemental artifact and equipped it it just disappeared
nothing too game breaking just a minor annoyance really
trim hinge
yeah it is
quiet python
left or right
cunning sable
Despite being slag the maliwan is probably better
wide fog
i can finally brag on killing him fast
how did you kill him that slow
opal ingot
i can finally brag on killing him fast
why did it take so long
cunning sable
Bad
lapis dust
@humble junco
quiet python
already farming snowman with this as zero, bros cracked with a sniper
dim flicker
should i switch shields?
cunning sable
Zer0 uses turtles more then adaptives
rough galleon
I would switch shields ya, shield delay may hurt tho if you cant hide
still normal mode and can help for the Warrior's fire
glass vessel
<@452667906396782592>
She’s so silly
wheat harbor
@peak ether definitely normal boneshredder
quiet python
the amount this stat increases is insane
real oracle
killer is extra funny
quiet python
sad, i wanted my shield to talk to me, i dunno if a 200 decrease plus the negative -115 my com gives me is worth that 😭
surreal spindle
the 1340 stuff is equal in stats to normal blue gear iirc.
ie the only added thing is the "talking gear/weapon" bit
quiet python
Im just not sure if the talking shield that gives me ammo is worth the 200 decrease 🤷 the recharge rate and delay on the 140 are nice
cunning sable
Its an Absorb
It has a chance to not take damage on the absorbtion
But
Thats a pretty bad absorb
Tediore Tourge Dahl?
rose lava
why did it take so long
Because me only have 170 hour
rough galleon
crazy
cunning sable
The best oz kit
rough galleon
its the third time Ive seen it in the vendor
cunning sable
The legendary one anyway
peak ether
never killed the robot
that's the ideal option actually
because if you do that Clap lek will respawn twice in 1 run
rough galleon
I didnt know he can respawn twice in one run
rough galleon
yeah that doesnt sound too bad
peak ether
destroying it gives the better quest reward but the EDDIE is too good to pass up
who tf even uses the System Purge anyway
modest forum
Lady's and gentlemen the most useless artifact of them all.
rough galleon
no no, that goes to the Vault Hunter Relic
peak ether
That at least does smth
modest forum
no no, that goes to the Vault Hunter Relic
At least that artifact can be use. This is an OP10 Moxxei's Endoment wich means it can not be use at all.
rough galleon
who tf even uses the System Purge anyway
System Purge seems interesting for a Sniper build but yeah, 3DD1.E is kinda cracked LOL
does Vault Hunter Relic do anything at UVHM+?
peak ether
There are builds I'd take other Oz Kits
rough galleon
since the decreased drop rate on Commons anyways
peak ether
I basically never use it on Athena or Clappy
cunning sable
There are builds I'd take other Oz Kits
I mean in a general sense the Eddie is like
Reliable
tawdry shell
Lady's and gentlemen the most useless artifact of them all.
i wish it was at the very least team xp gained
so if your max and your friend isn't you could help them a little or something
peak ether
I mean in a general sense the Eddie is like
Reliable
oh I know
rough galleon
that would be really nice
tawdry shell
i really like oz kits i thought they were cool
rough galleon
imo more intersting than just relics
tawdry shell
definitely
rough galleon
would be nice if BL3 relics was not just either slide or dmg but slide is always altered
I want snowdrifter lootsplosion eeks dee
modest forum
This might be a but obvious question here but wich should I use for my shock weapon?
Never mind.
rough galleon
I would think the splatgun is better /shrug
modest forum
I just tested the shot gun.... I don't think it might work out.
cunning sable
Hyperion splatguns suck
cunning sable
Not that i think
Their damage just
Isnt there for the most part
I think splasher blasters are the ones you wnana use
Or slow hand
Slow hand is just
chefs kiss
rough galleon
Swordplosion is also an etech shotgun :V
wheat harbor
I think splasher blasters are the ones you wnana use
Or slow hand
Slow hand is ...
yeah splasher blasters are just
infinitely better
bandit shotguns have good damage just held back by the accuracy but uh
doesnt matter when they explode
cunning sable
I forgot about swordsplosion
Not because it sucks its just its an exception on an exception
rough galleon
I see
formal cliff
Just finished BL1 GOTY. Another one down, onto the next
wheat harbor
Just finished BL1 GOTY. Another one down, onto the next
damn
you played non goty bl1?
formal cliff
Back in 2011 I sure did
deep brook
which should I use for slag?
rough galleon
transfusion = bouncing betty > singularity
transfusion helps for survival and bouncing betty is just AoE which helps a lot for reapplying slag
humble junco
no no, that goes to the Vault Hunter Relic
technically that does do something
it's not very good, but it certainly has an effect
it makes white rarity items drop less
next sand
If there was a borderlands game that brought all the vault hunters back as playable characters
Which Duo of vault hunters would be unstoppable (synergy, not just pure power). No duplicates. Skill trees don't change even for BL1 vault hunters
humble junco
and thus technically increases the quality pool of dropped items
opal ingot
Lady's and gentlemen the most useless artifact of them all.
the most useless artifact is the lucrative opportunity
rough galleon
it makes white rarity items drop less
I mean yeah but does it affect UVHM+?
rough galleon
fair
lunar hound
it makes white rarity items drop less
The real worst relic is the lucrative opportunity
gaunt laurel
Just finished BL1 GOTY. Another one down, onto the next
What website is this?
tidal obsidian
The real worst relic is the lucrative opportunity
What about moxxi's one?
Or the amulet
formal cliff
What website is this?
Trueachievements
tidal obsidian
I got handsome Jack as my wallpaper screen on my gaming laptop! : D
Sure must be funny people's reactions when they see your wallpaper