bl1-2-tps-media

[leaden stag]

and also, gaige players when they get to that funny turret on oasis dlc

[wheat harbor]

also
nth degree is weird
im pretty sure it applies the chance to ricochet on shot
but cycles on hit
makes no sense

[swift forge]

you can try taking points out of interspersed outburst if you want more Nth degree

[wheat harbor]

so theoretically a shotgun could never trigger it

[swift forge]

I'm a huge fan of the skill at 5/5 but realistically it's a flex point

[leaden stag]

Ive found it doesnt bitchbehave with a fibber so I jam with it

[wind token]

who ever says that?

[swift forge]

0/5 IO is reasonable (1/5 since you want the point for L. Catalyst buff)

[tiny thorn]

I figured since I have no swap speed then I want my chance to slag really high, probably assisted by a COM.

[wheat harbor]

soooo many people

[swift forge]

the slag chance is just not incredibly high tbh =/

[wind token]

people say to prestack, but i always thought we're talking 100-200 stacks

[wheat harbor]

better off using a slag transfusion grenade

[swift forge]

and you're also shooting your gun a lot. I take it because its damage is pretty good

[wheat harbor]

nope
400

[leaden stag]

I dont even have interspeed unlocked

[tiny thorn]

So what do I put instead of IO?

[swift forge]

you have no idea lmao, it's crazy

[wheat harbor]

(also everyone gets a free 30% swap speed bonus in uvhm)

[leaden stag]

the only prestacking method Ive done is pete bar

and not that often eithe way its just when I specifically want the stats for something like boses

[swift forge]

realistically max out nth degree

but also realistically try out IO first and see if you like it. This is very much a personal preference skill, and while I personally prefer it, it's not an essential point investment

[tiny thorn]

Electrical Burn?
Cooking or Potent?

[swift forge]

still insanely slow tbh

[leaden stag]

Swap funs when the rabid stalker humps your leg

[wheat harbor]

oh for sure

[swift forge]

eburn 1/5 is the Catalyst investment, I go 4/5 if I'm not using cata com and have good dots (chain lightning)

[tiny thorn]

So putting 1 in Gorillaz for the COM trigger isn't even worth the 1 point?

[wheat harbor]

yea

[swift forge]

I will always always do this, but I'm on console so my dt is cracked and that point comes from more pep which is a marginal skill anyway

[wheat harbor]

what com you even taking it for?

[wheat harbor]

more like more poop

2% dot chance boost

[swift forge]

like all the good coms boost Gorillas, it's crazy

except catalyst

[wheat harbor]

i wish necro boosted better skills

[swift forge]

leg. mechro boosts it, Necromancer boosts it

[tiny thorn]

I was going to swap between L. Anarchist (at the beginning of combat if I have low/no stacks), L. Catalysts for DOT but probably mostly running L. Mech.

[wheat harbor]

necro goated passives tho

[leaden stag]

firerate and mag size was it

[wheat harbor]

well
depende on the version

[leaden stag]

wait no, crit damage

[wheat harbor]

you dont want crit on gaige

well its good but

[swift forge]

chaotic good is fire rate + reload speed
lawful evil is accuracy + crit
neutral is +mag

[wheat harbor]

gl hitting crits

wires dont talk is so overrated tho

[swift forge]

I usually go CG, sometimes CN

[swift forge]

idk I like it

[wheat harbor]

even at 11/5 WDT its still better to just match elements

70% for playing rock paper scissors

[leaden stag]

I sometimes like to use shock against everything

[swift forge]

I hate it when my loadout is "fire gun, corrosive gun, slag gun, moxxi gun"
I would much rather have a loadout that's "close range gun, long range gun, slag gun, moxxi gun"

[wheat harbor]

twister and storm is really the only reason to go wdt

[swift forge]

what if your corrosive gun is a sniper rifle and you're getting swarmed by pwr loader? just die

[wheat harbor]

yeh thats fair

its just
depressing that its way less damage

and hey in peak you can just go full corrosive

[swift forge]

in peak full shock is kinda good ngl

[tiny thorn]

If you guys tell me to change 1 more thing.....
Haha, jk.
But for real.. good to have access to Max Anarchy stacks? Or should I pump Cooking or Potent?
Should I even put 1 in Potent?

[swift forge]

let me check what coms boost PooP

sorry, PaaP

actually, no, I'm not sorry.

[leaden stag]

poop

[swift forge]

damn it's just L. Roboteer

please never use L. Roboteer or PooP

I was going to say the only reason to ever use L. Roboteer is if you really need DT to come off cooldown yesterday since you're getting overwhelmed and need him as an aggro sink

but L. Mechro is better at that since it has a bigger cdr bonus. So the only reason to ever equip L. Roboteer is if you're unironically playing Melee Gaige. In which case, you have bigger issues than 1/5 PooP

[tacit igloo]

Huh

[leaden stag]

doorn't

[wind token]

why though

when krieg literally exists

[cunning sable]

Who

[wind token]

I don't believe that if we're really talking max stacks

[swift forge]

you have no clue lmao

[wind token]

and you seem to have nothing to base your claim on

so while laughing over me might make you feel like being in a superior position it's nothing i could take serious

source: trust me bro

[cunning sable]

I trust no one included myself

[rough galleon]

I stan for Nipple Salad.
Actual honest to god, for real facts

[south hamlet]

why though

when zer0 literally exists

[tiny thorn]

They're both really helpful but I've got to say, I like the name Nipple Salad..
Other than that, you my boy Soly.

[wind token]

melee build is lowkey cool

[cunning sable]

Whys the key so low huh
Raise it up!

[tawdry shell]

yooo

key?

like like the the goddamn

https://castlecrashers.fandom.com/wiki/Key_Sword

[cunning sable]

Ill key you

[tawdry shell]

[cunning sable]

Why is it called that

[tiny thorn]

Cuz there's already a Keyblade™️

[cunning sable]

No the emote

[real oracle]

have you ever had a pop eyes biscuit?

[fair sluice]

?

[tiny thorn]

Church's biscuits are way better bro

[real oracle]

a spoonful of sand is more hydrating

[tiny thorn]

Wtf is up with your name??

[fair sluice]

shower sweat

[tiny thorn]

Ok.......
Just keep doing you bro.

I keep seeing these warnings on ppl's "About Me" that they're suspected of being in a Terror Org.
Wtf, is that about?

Is that real or ppl are just adding that to their bio?

[fair sluice]

wait i have that it doesnt show for me

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, you done fucked up somewhere bro

[fair sluice]

lol

[tiny thorn]

It's not even proper English tho..

[fair sluice]

dam i fucked up

[tiny thorn]

Ha, yeah, that's what I just said.

Do I have one?

[fair sluice]

nope

[tiny thorn]

Guess I ain't fucked up yet

Yet.....

[fair sluice]

it migha been the fact i have a fbi agent awalys watching

[fair sluice]

cuz shit i did

[tiny thorn]

That's dope bro!
What did you do?

[fair sluice]

nearly kill a dick BRO

[tiny thorn]

Like, a private eye from the 1940's?
How'd you do that?
Do you know Dr. Emmett Brown?

[fair sluice]

bro just wrote a paragraph

[fair sluice]

and they where talkin shit so i beat the ever loving fuck outta them

[tiny thorn]

Ooh, you got strong arms buddy?

[fair sluice]

kinda i just know how two throw a punch

[tiny thorn]

Everybody thinks they know how to fight bro.
I've been kickboxing for 10 years.
Trust me, you don't know how to fight at all.

[fair sluice]

i beleive u

[tiny thorn]

Oh wow, well, that's a first.
Usually ppl are like "no way, look at the badass".

[fair sluice]

tbh idfc who u are if u talk shit and cant back it up throwing a punch if they try

[tiny thorn]

But, it's the truth..
I used to think I knew how to fight.
I held my own in a Texas prison.

Then I started training when I got out.
Now I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

[fair sluice]

i can see

[tiny thorn]

Bc I know that there are a lot of Batmans walking around these streets and you have no idea who they are.

[fair sluice]

batmans that cant back their lies up most then actual batmans

very rare

[tiny thorn]

I mean, there are a bunch of ppl who actually know how to fight walking around and looking at them, you wouldn't think they could.
But I trained with guys like this.

Guys who play D&D but will kick your ass no (shower) sweat.

But.....

Wtf even was that sentence?
I still don't understand what you're trying to say

[fair sluice]

lol i beleive it but its the drunk duche liars that piss me off

[leaden stag]

This convo is sucking the braincells outta me

[tiny thorn]

Well, the guys I'm talking about never act like drunk douche liars.

[fair sluice]

k i might get along with them

[tiny thorn]

Those are the guys who think they can fight

[tiny thorn]

I mean, they're not exactly nice either..
But not mean..

They might not be nice to you if you aren't serious about fighting. That's all they care about.

[fair sluice]

im not tryna fight but i will if i need two

[tiny thorn]

Ayaaa..
You can always avoid a fight bro..

Real fighting is a dance.
Street fighting is not fun.

[tiny thorn]

I just have literally nothing going on rn..

A baby is sleeping on me

[fair sluice]

now i agree

[tiny thorn]

I should be fighting professionally.
I got in a street fight and ended my career with an injury.

[fair sluice]

damn rip bro i feel bad

[tiny thorn]

Ha, it's my own fault.
I should have walked away

I wanted to kick the guy's ass tho

He thought he was a gangster

[fair sluice]

i dont i wait for them to throw the first punch them beat the ever fucking daylight outta them

[tiny thorn]

That's bc neither of you know how to actually fight..
Go check out a Muay Thai gym bro but DO NOT walk in there thinking you're badass trying to challenge ppl. Bad idea.

[fair sluice]

now see i dont go in places like that cuz i know i can getmmymass kicked im just waiting for it to happen now

[tiny thorn]

You go and train so you don't have to worry about drunk lying douches.
After training, you just smile and walk away.

[fair sluice]

ight well i gotta go i got called two go do sodin

[real oracle]

decided to make most of the avengers damage come from the betty instead of the explosion

[south hamlet]

it happened again lol

[winged flower]

😭😭😭😭😭😭 bro I'm sorry for picking up a controller

[real oracle]

what

[winged flower]

Bro it took me like 5 tries to beat him on MY level you cooked him 10 higher in under 20 seconds

[tawdry shell]

did you read the message tied to said video

that's not normally possible lol

[real oracle]

yeah lmao it's my mod

[trim hinge]

reading comprehension goes crazy with this one!!

[real oracle]

ton of damage formula, skill, blah blah and hp changes

granted, the average player of my mod is not gonna instantly know how to do that because...im the one who made it i know how to abuse my own formulas

tho i made raid boss hp lower as a whole. might need to turn it back up

cuz i think i balanced it around rather vanilla dps

[wheat harbor]

makes sense

[stiff palm]

Help me 🥹🥹

[tawdry shell]

remembered there's a way to activate these things

[opal ingot]

@tacit igloo bee does apply to tediore chucks
cuz i was dealing less damage with another shield

[tacit igloo]

Isn’t that cause it’s shooting tho? I always assumed bee only applied to firing weapons and if it just a chucked tediore it wouldn’t add anything

Guess I was wrong than

But imo he’d probably have a better time using that than a baby maker than

[opal ingot]

well the thing is
the explosion was boosted and not the bullets it shoots

[tacit igloo]

Ah I see

Good to know than when speed killing as axton

I always threw on the Antagonist for reflection protection and easier slag when spamming throws

[wheat harbor]

only infection cleaner and avenger

no other tediore chuck is

[wheat harbor]

baby maker wont get bee

[tacit igloo]

Ah that makes a lot more sense

[wheat harbor]

avenger is odd and gets amp
and infection cleaner is a cloned avenger so

[opal ingot]

listen i've never played this game

[wheat harbor]

too late
im killing u now

[opal ingot]

nopers

[valid fox]

deliverance?

[tall surge]

ummmm what about deliverance

[tall surge]

(the bullets does but not the explosion

the drone bullet also gets gun damage bonuses and stuff alike

[valid fox]

betty tediores get bee bonus on the explosion itself?

[real oracle]

have you actually not

[opal ingot]

YES
all these clips were from my friend

[real oracle]

im gonna check your steam bl2 hours smh

[tall surge]

yes

[valid fox]

crazy

[opal ingot]

go on

[tacit igloo]

This is a lady right?

[wind token]

probably

[cunning sable]

No thats a cat

[tidal obsidian]

@glass vessel is you?

[tacit igloo]

It’s him the true leader of Hyperion

[wind token]

where even did you see that person

[cunning sable]

Thats on some banners or boards in Helios in tps

One of hyperions old ceos or founders

[tacit igloo]

^

What’s funny is the middle guy when you find his solo portraits in game his eyes glow red

Makes me wonder why only his eyes had that effect while the rest weren’t

[cunning sable]

Evil
The rest were Evil Lite

[glass vessel]

Yes I’m the cat

[tiny thorn]

@plush aspen
I would probably do something like this

https://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#555250055150055105515050500000

[plush aspen]

I didn’t know crit damage would be good on Jakobs guns

Lol

[tiny thorn]

I run Zer0 with shotguns so IDK anything about him as a Sniper honestly.

[plush aspen]

I’ll try that skill build you made for my Jakobs sniper build

and see how it performs at max level

[tall surge]

it is very good

cuz non-sniper jakobs weapons have a crit bonus that multiply crit damage from skills

[plush aspen]

Aight that makes sense so thx

[fair sluice]

156 capacity bee shield ❤️

[plush aspen]

Which com to go for at max level for my Jakobs sniper zero? Im open to any of them since im not doing a allegiance run

[leaden stag]

have you considered using sniper coms

[wind token]

Leg sniper if I had to guess?

[plush aspen]

yea me too

[tiny thorn]

Sniper on a Sniper?
No......

[tiny thorn]

I just kinda threw the last 7 points in.
I'm new to the game so I would take this with a grain of salt and ask other ppl too.
I avoided Velocity bc it breaks some sniper rifles. You might not want 2 Fang bc it really messes with accuracy.
IDK much about the accuracy skills.
You want Kunai and Death Mark.
You might want Bore. It's helping me learn the critical spots.

[plush aspen]

Yea it’s been awhile since I played this game

I’m using the zero doc too

[signal stump]

dont run tw0 fang on jakobs snipers

the recoil on jakobs snipers makes it waste shots always

[tiny thorn]

This is what I'm doing with Shotgun Zer0:
L. Sniper COM & +Shock Bone of the Ancients,
Antagonist Shield & Shock Singularity Grenade,
Slag Lyudamila & Shock Conference Call,
Norfleet for Second Wind.

[plush aspen]

@signal stump aight thx

[brisk canyon]

I don't have the commander lilith dlc, but does this also work with level 72 characters

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, but not as well.
You can take 8 out of Velocity & Precision.

[wheat harbor]

well um actually the bullets arent part of the actual projectile so doesnt count (i forgor)

[real oracle]

wonder wtf broke

wow it really does not like this launcher

but it...kinda? works

smh

[tiny thorn]

Looks like you installed a mod or something that replaced all of those files and the launcher doesn't recognize them? 🤷‍♂️

[real oracle]

no i am making the mod myself

mods dont replace files

they just change some value or attribute to another and it is reset upon closing the game

the odd bit is when i re-exec the game crashes but not when i exec the first time

i am however, not surprised at all

but im gonna have to debug later

[wide fog]

me when i have no clue what im talking about

[real oracle]

tbh the way im doing this is incredibly scuffed

..actually theres probably a better way to do this

oml there absolutely is

i dont need to copy scorn

main thing is i have no fucking clue what actually causes the crashing

but it's prob the body composition

[tiny thorn]

Ah, when I installed my STALKER mods it told me it was replacing certain files of the vanilla game with modified or rewritten values.

[real oracle]

yeah but thats an entirely different game

[trim hinge]

me when entirely different games work differently

goes crazy

[cunning sable]

like people!

[tiny thorn]

I was just trying to help...

[real oracle]

this isnt something i dont know how to deal with

cuz projectiles are very fucky

i just need to figure out what's actually causing it but it's prob going to be hitboxes

but i just thought of a way more efficient way to do this anyway

idk why i was cloning scorn when i can just

put a damage area on a projectile

turns out im stupid

[trim hinge]

correct!!

[real oracle]

aight watch the game crash again

check this out

[tawdry shell]

let’s mod borderlands 2!
fatal error
awww dang it!
fatal error
awww dang it!
fatal error
aww dang it!

[real oracle]

it didnt crash but instead just didnt clone

[cunning sable]

Replace the start with just typing to play New Vegas

[real oracle]

no thats "Ran out of video memory!"

ok yeah it just crashes

if i exec twice

just to make sure i think it might be something i did to scorn

ok it's definitely the launcher

i think the game doesnt like cloning damage areas

[wide fog]

funko have u tried being good at this

[cunning sable]

Nah he hasnt gotten his get good permit

[real oracle]

no but you know who did?

fucking zazk saving my entire mod for the upteenth time

well i need to test it but

[rough galleon]

Yep...

[real oracle]

yeah

[glass vessel]

Sick spiderant

[rough galleon]

thanks man

[wind token]

what the fuck @real oracle

[real oracle]

testing

[wind token]

stop being on gaige

[real oracle]

smh

[wind token]

is this actually perfect?

not sure probably ftb +5 stv +4 better 🤔

[real oracle]

will give a unique skin later

[wind token]

@nocturne mist what do you think?

saturn dropped this randomly tbf

[wheat harbor]

grade goes up to 5 so

also its only 5/3/4, not 5/4/4

[cunning sable]

you litteraly made the RYNAH

[wind token]

ah

you can tell how much i used purple coms

[wheat harbor]

kek

idk why purples have a worse version

every other rarity is fixed

but purples just get extra fucked

[wind token]

but still doesnt answer the question if +5 stv or +5 ftb would be better

i suppose ftb but it's probably close

the fact that i farmed both a diesel and a scream sickle sounds like both is possible

but diesel i probably farmed for stuff like bunker etc

[wheat harbor]

i would lean into STV because it effects both melee and thrown axes

[wind token]

oh trueeeee i always forget the melee scaling of it

[wheat harbor]

explosive axes are confusing as hell so i dont blame you

[wind token]

@real oracle i just tested LF on rustyards once and i think i can kinda understand your love for it

BUT WHY THE FUCK IS THERE SO MUCH ON MY SCREEN

[wheat harbor]

lady fist?

[wind token]

it's not that i cant aim

its THAT I DONT SEE ANYTHING

[wind token]

yes lady fist

the visual pollution on krieg is insane

like, i really want to aim for crits

but either my screen is shaking like forever

or RR (the skill) or EVERY dot in the game pollutes my screen

[real oracle]

shut up

[wind token]

what is a rynah?

[nocturne mist]

its all over my pants

[wind token]

what?

[south hamlet]

It's all over their pants

[wind token]

i dont understand that if it is a phrase in english slang

[nocturne mist]

oh

um

[south hamlet]

I don't either

But it's all over their pants

[real oracle]

bl3 gun

[spark stone]

Anyone could help me make a op 10 melee build for krieg

And best gears for him

.

[tawdry shell]

check the pinned messages in #borderlands-2

there's character guides

[wide fog]

thats why zazk is my goat

[opal ingot]

i literally tried to read the gun name as if it were written in cyrillic lmao

[real oracle]

why are you european

[opal ingot]

cuz i can

[real oracle]

¿júntate con nosotros?

what color should i make the ryn4

[nocturne mist]

op 7 lets go

getting the last 3 twmr

[opal ingot]

how about no

[shut steppe]

drop from loot midget

[real oracle]

darn

[cunning pond]

that is a crazy roll for level 60

[wind token]

Yooo even elemental, rip vgrip though

[wheat harbor]

critical honestly not too bad
as long as well, youre gitting crits

but yeah the 66% damage loss sucks

[wind token]

speaking of which

what was the up2date situation of pain is power

was critting worse than not critting?

[wheat harbor]

uhhhh

i dont think it was you do less damage than a body shot

but
you do less on crit with the skill than you would without

if you have extra gun daamage boosts

[wind token]

ah that was it yeah

so critting with PiP is worse than critting without?

[wheat harbor]

yea

[wind token]

tbh on krieg it's hard enough to hit crits with all the visual stuff

so i don't mind taking it

[wheat harbor]

because
gun damage boosts are additive, crits are multiplicative so

[wind token]

bro which shit gun can i use to test which doesnt have shit spray pattern NOR has inherent crit

AND single projectile

ah baby maker might be fine

[wheat harbor]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/3mlijjiccj
yeah

D is damage, C is normal crit
G is skill grade
P is PiP crit

oh i should add body and on fire

[wind token]

you should also include inherent crit boosts

[wheat harbor]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/9ij51u6wps
lol neat
so eventually bodyshots without pip will do more damage than crits with pip while on fire

but that takes over 400% gun damage which
krieg wont get

[wheat harbor]

wdym?

[wind token]

broooooooo i immediately burn the dummy

but if i use jakobs then i have inherent crit 😠

[wind token]

like, how it affects guns with inherent crit like jakobs guns

[wheat harbor]

just sorta mitigates the downside ig

but yeah PiP is kinda best with splash guns that arent relying on crits

[wind token]

okay interesting

@wheat harbor according to a quick test with hammer buster the damage is effectively the same on crit

but hammer buster is jakobs so i would guess inherent crit which means on normal guns it would be worse

[wind token]

tbf these are the best guns for krieg anyways

[wind token]

yeah with a bandit gun seems to be the same

@wheat harboruhh with 11/5 that's also the case

so basically no matter how many points i invest it's always the same damage on crit?

but from 0 to 11 i get from 123k to 191k damage

this is all without on fire tbf

wait hold on

@wheat harboralright nvm, you actually deal less damage on crits

at least when on fire

No Fire:
-------------------
Normal  Body - 123k
PiP +5  Body - 154k
PiP +11 Body - 191k

Normal  Crit - 247k
PiP +5  Crit - 247k
PiP +11 Crit - 247k

On Fire:
-------------------
Normal  Body - 123k
PiP +5  Body - 216k
PiP +11 Body - 327k

Normal  Crit - 247k
PiP +5  Crit - 247k
PiP +11 Crit - 247k

that's kinda funny

that also means that crit is only not worth it with toast COM

[wheat harbor]

yeah

[wind token]

which also opens up the question if toast with 5/5 bb is better than reaper with 10/5 bb

but i would highly suppose that reaper is still better

[opal ingot]

wtf

[glass vessel]

Bad B engery

[wind token]

@nocturne mist it's time

[tidal obsidian]

Herbert was a creepy freak

Among all crazy people you can see in Borderlands story, Herbert is probably the 3rd craziest

[glass vessel]

Honestly she deserves the same lvl of worship from a better person

Some of the clippings in his wall low key look like fan art kinda funny

[wind token]

whats 2 and 1

[wind token]

hot take: herbert is a cutie

[tidal obsidian]

There are a lot of good candidates, but my personal are Dra. Spara and Face McShoty

[wind token]

he does everything for his love

[tidal obsidian]

[glass vessel]

Face mcshooty is more sane to me than Professor Nakayama.

[tidal obsidian]

But is a psycho

[glass vessel]

Absolutely not

[tidal obsidian]

THAT ONLY WANTS TO BE SHOTED ONLY IN THE HEAD

[glass vessel]

Yeah totally sane and aware of himself

[tidal obsidian]

Even hitting his toe is bad

[glass vessel]

Knows what he wants and asks clearly

[tidal obsidian]

That's even crazier thinking that is a psycho

[glass vessel]

🤣🤣🤣

[tidal obsidian]

YES. And is scary

[wind token]

i didnt say he is not insane

[glass vessel]

He also looks like he’s moshing

[wind token]

i just said he's a cutie

[glass vessel]

Extra point for moshing

[glass vessel]

He looks like a scab I once had

[tidal obsidian]

I disagree

[glass vessel]

Well you did say creepy not psycho

Professor Nakayama is creepier than Mcshooty

[wind token]

Don't you want somebody that is willing to do anything to make you happy?

[glass vessel]

Hell scooter is creepier in a more wholesome way

[tidal obsidian]

Yep but Im talking about crazy, not creepy

[glass vessel]

Nope that’s toxic

Red flag

Boundaries are important

[tidal obsidian]

And for me both of them are equal lvl of creepy

[tidal obsidian]

What Xam said

[glass vessel]

McShooty has puppy dawg energy

[tidal obsidian]

Is toxic

[glass vessel]

He’s juts a a high energy puppy

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tidal obsidian]

And I am surpised that nobody is talking about Spara being the top tier on my crazy list

[wind token]

My question didn't imply breaking boundaries

In fact, making my partner happy implies respecting boundaries

[glass vessel]

🧐

We getting too deep for this subject matter

That dude was a stalker

[tidal obsidian]

(also FUN FACT: Spara was planned to made a little cameo in Tales)

[glass vessel]

He recorded her sleeping without consent

[wind token]

You're taking my comments way too serious but

[glass vessel]

I’m just saying he’s not cute Lol

He was a creep

[wind token]

Im sure he did all that with good intent but since he's insane the good intent is overstepping boundaries

[glass vessel]

Im not saying in a personal context just for this creeper in bl2

[tidal obsidian]

Is more creepy that a creeper

[wind token]

What he did is definitely not cute no

[glass vessel]

LMFAOOOOO YOU CANT DO SOMETHING WITHOUT SOMEONES CONSENT AND HAVE GOOD INTENTION

[wind token]

What he intended is cute

[glass vessel]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[wind token]

He's insane so its very possible

Insane people have screwed perception

[glass vessel]

Doesn’t make what they do okay I know I’m ONE OF THEM

[wind token]

That's precisely what I said ye

[glass vessel]

Fair

Besides Nipple Salad is a great username

I love how some random character from a 12 year old dlc can spark a philosophical conversation

[wind token]

the conversations are sometimes more philosophical than you might expect

[nocturne mist]

im gonna do mine in like a montch

month

[tiny thorn]

Which is better?

Oh, I also have this one

[shut steppe]

yeah

[shut steppe]

practicable by all means

but it doesnt have elements on it ;_;

[wind token]

Practicable is better prefix but for armored enemies the corrosive one should be better

[tiny thorn]

I'll probably keep those 2

[wind token]

Critical isn't a bad prefix though

[tiny thorn]

I have a Sledge too

[wind token]

Sledge is NE and not too amazing but should work

[shut steppe]

sledge's shotgun is not as good as it was in bl1

it should've kept the 2 magazine size

[tiny thorn]

This is the Sledge I have

Is a +37% slag damage relic good?

[shut steppe]

it's useless

slag is only good for debuffing and nothing else

get a bone of the ancients, you're in a good stage for doing so

[tiny thorn]

I didn't know if it was just slag damage or any damage a slagged enemy takes

[tidal obsidian]

None of them. CAUSE BOTH LACKS AN ELEMENT

[tiny thorn]

I'm not farming.
Just got boosted to 80 and I just want to know what I should start with

After I said I was going to play her legit.
Screw that, it's like WoW, the game doesn't start until level cap.

[wind token]

Slagga isn't too bad

[tiny thorn]

I got a Slagga and a slag grenade, I have to look what kind tho

Murdering Slagga I think.

[wind token]

Doesn't matter too much for slagga

Perfect would be bulets go fasterifed and maliwan grip but don't worry too much

[tidal obsidian]

The only good thing needed for a Slagga is to be a Slagga

Nothing more

[real oracle]

hm maybe i should make slag relics do this, tho it would need to go in the same relic as shock and corrosive

[real oracle]

which reminds me i was gonna make a skill do that

[wind token]

Doesn't change what I said though?

[tidal obsidian]

Nop xD

[mellow cape]

is this good?

[nocturne mist]

god damn it

[tawdry shell]

gearbox bad game devs smh

[nocturne mist]

does knoxx trap have a drop

[tawdry shell]

no

there's not very many dedicated drop farms in bl1, and even then all of them are pretty much just mission reward items

[nocturne mist]

im starting to question if theres legendaries in this game

[tawdry shell]

there's plenty

bl1 is a lot different when it comes to legendary stuff

you just kinda gotta find it

won't start really seeing anything till as early as level 20 in my experience

[wind token]

it's sticky

[mellow cape]

idk what that means im a fastball merchant

guessing that js means it locks on an enemy

[tawdry shell]

the leech is alright

[mellow cape]

alr ty

[wind token]

sticky sticks to the target but increases fuse time by default

longbow with 0 fuse is optimal, the same grenade with sticky will have increased fuse time

[mellow cape]

Ooooh ok thanks for explaining

[tawdry shell]

splendid

something with this mod has fucked up mission rewards lol

[nocturne mist]

erm

[wheat harbor]

its so goofy
sticky is just make completely redundant by the fact that 0 fuse exists

like
what situation do you want it to stack and then have a delay before detonating

vs detonating on impact

[real oracle]

make stickies double dip all your buffs on direct

[wheat harbor]

making em deal damage on impact could be neat

[real oracle]

like wow! you hit the enemy directly and for having good aim, it gets your grenade damage bonus all over again

or some bullshit or just a damage boost or bonus hit ig

[wind token]

gee i guess

[wheat harbor]

for gee dragging 0 fuse still works

[wind token]

ah the singularity effect is instant too then, true

i guess sticky is easier to farm for that matter

[tiny thorn]

Which shotgun is better for Gaige?

[wheat harbor]

yeh

[trim hinge]

conference call lol

sledge's is mid at best

[wind token]

haters gonna hate

[trim hinge]

hell yeah I am

I'm a proud hater

[tiny thorn]

I figured CC with the split & ricochet.
Do those ricochet tho?

[nocturne mist]

cc doesnt ricochet

thats close enough

[wind token]

i think they asked if the spawned horizontal bullets ricochet

[trim hinge]

they dont

[nocturne mist]

is this man okay

he fine

[tacit igloo]

Don’t remember them having this far of range before

[mellow cape]

cc or carnage?

[nocturne mist]

who are you playing

oh youre krieg

umm so carnage is really good on h im

only use cc on big targets/bosses

carnage on bloodsplosion mainia goes insane

[tiny thorn]

@nocturne mist
All tools? The first one?

[nocturne mist]

follow a video

also dont download it on your phone 😭

[tiny thorn]

I'm a man, I don't need instructions.
Just tell me what to do.

[nocturne mist]

thats literally me giving you instructions...

[tiny thorn]

Ha, I know...
I use discord on my phone

[nocturne mist]

ohh oaky

ok so download the first one

and then extract it and open up the application in the folder

and then i can help you from there

[mellow cape]

im hellborn bloodlust doe

[nocturne mist]

ok then dont use it its for a different build

but its still good to have

[mellow cape]

alr

thanks

[tiny thorn]

@nocturne mist

[nocturne mist]

gibbed.borderlands2.saveeditor.exe

open that

[tiny thorn]

I tried but it's not opening

[nocturne mist]

did you extract it?

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, with 7zip

[nocturne mist]

umm

oh shit you might not have network 4 thingy

you need an update from windowns to run it

[tiny thorn]

What exactly?

[nocturne mist]

here do you wanna go to dms

[tiny thorn]

Yeah

[real oracle]

you only needed the save edit

[nocturne mist]

hes doing smth rn

he said the application wont open for him

[real oracle]

might be cuz he moved it somewhere idk, i had a similar issue once ever

i think putting it in the desktop makes it not work

[nocturne mist]

im gonna help him when hes back

[real oracle]

i just put mine in documents and made a shortcut for the desktop

[nocturne mist]

ah ok

[mellow cape]

Is this good for raids or should i try and get a different variant

[cunning sable]

Longbow

[mellow cape]

alr

ty

[tiny thorn]

Where are you??
That vending machine is stacked!

[tiny thorn]

Ok, well, had to stay with the baby the entire night. But, today is a new day.

[wide fog]

uh longbow and not level 80 preferably

[tiny thorn]

@nocturne mist
I had another mod folder opened up in 7zip bc that's the last place I was inside the program.
So I accidently unzipped gib inside there, haha.

I can just put it on the desktop?
I don't have to put it inside Program Files (×86) < Common < Steam < ??

It's still not opening...

Ugh, I'm gonna have to read now..

Ah, extract to desktop..

[tiny thorn]

I'm trying to make this Deadly Bloom.
Want it to look like a DB so I selected Torgue body & battery but I want Pangolin capacity, Hyperion recharge delay and Bandit recharge rate..

What's "manufacturer grade" & "game stage"?
Rarity level & item level?

[wind token]

Set both to your level you want it to be at

[tiny thorn]

It won't let me select anything for recharge delay or recharge rate tho..

[cunning sable]

Your sheild parts determine that

[tiny thorn]

Ok, I thought that was the way it looked.
I'm using this chart.

[wide fog]

thing is busted as fuck

[real oracle]

you found that thing?

i could send you the funkzone i have rn ig

but later

[cunning sable]

Generally you always want Maliwan as the capacitor (the top bit)
Since it gives an elemental dot immunity

[tiny thorn]

Damage 2??
How do you get it to show the parts?
UCP or BL2fix?

[tiny thorn]

I did Torgue body & capacitor.
See... This is why I ask you guys to gib me stuff..

[tacit igloo]

Yeah but you don’t learn yourself tho

[cunning sable]

Matching sheild parts to the manufacturer does jack
Youd want Pure maliwan on a deadly bloom

For the nova damage anyway

[tiny thorn]

It's for shotgun Zer0.
I gave Gaige the Antagonist

[cunning sable]

Ok then youd want something better then Bloom, maybe a generic turtle for better tanking

[tiny thorn]

I was using Bloom in TVHM and it would get me back up from Second Wind pretty reliably.
Will that not be the case for UVHM?

[real oracle]

sdk mod called part notifier

the reason it does 2 damage is cuz he's playing a version of my mod that the gun doesnt say damage scales with money

[tiny thorn]

Oh yeah, I should've known when I saw the CEO Mindset tag

[nocturne mist]

I can send you links to a steam list of all item id codes

from the codes you can change the element and levels of it

[mellow cape]

Not level 80?

[mellow cape]

Torgue lol

[wide fog]

yes beacuse then it wont do self damage

[mellow cape]

Ohh so should i go into tvhm shop?

[opal ingot]

normal mode ideally

[mellow cape]

Daaayum alr

[cunning sable]

If you wanna use one for damage then betties in elements are actually much more solid then people give credit for, just not bossing maybe

[mellow cape]

im probably only going to use it for raids

but damn only 2 grenade mods spawn each time this is gonna take a minute

[tiny thorn]

Heck yeah.
I just made a Norfleet with Torgue barrel & exhaust for increased damage.
But I used a couple Maliwan parts for increased speed. Like the scope and barrel cover.

Long story short, idk what I'm doing.

[nocturne mist]

i dislike using gibbed like that ngl

i only use it when something bugged mostly

or when an item wont drop after 3+ hours and im fed up

[opal ingot]

if you put a different barrel than the norfleet barrel then it's not a norfleet anymore

[nocturne mist]

it needs to be specifically a etech barrel

[tiny thorn]

I rarely use launchers. I just put them in my last weapon slot just in case I'm having trouble getting back up from Second Wind.

I was making a Deadly Bloom bc I felt like that wouldn't be too crazy but somebody told me I was using the wrong parts.
Also hard to tell if I'm doing the shield parts right.

[nocturne mist]

you can have torgue exaust for more damage though

ive never used norfleet on gaige i only used topnea its less farming

easier to get too

[tiny thorn]

It forced me to select alien Norfleet.
IDK, I was just on it for a couple minutes.
I might be able to get back on later

[nocturne mist]

plus its more ammo efficient

[tiny thorn]

So, my plan is to gear myself up at 80 (which is right now) and then actually earn the powerful stuff..

Even tho somebody dropped me a bunch of very strong stuff..

I'd like to just be able to get by and go earn all my gear but idk what exactly to give myself to create that balance.

[nocturne mist]

just play the game normally

[tiny thorn]

Well yeah, I played NVHM & TVHM regularly. I didn't want to play UVHM 3 or 4 times to get to 80.

So now that I'm at 80 I need STANDARD gear bc I have way too powerful items.

[nocturne mist]

wait what?

you can just farm stuff to get to level 80 you dont have to replay uvhm 4 times

[tiny thorn]

Well, either way..
I was putting a baby to sleep for 5 hours last night, grinding is very difficult for me to do.

[nocturne mist]

ah ok

end of bl1 if very anti climatic wow

[low cove]

Which is better, reborn, exodus, or 2.5?

[real oracle]

lmao i wasnt directing you to this channel but i would prob say exodus

even tho exotek said exodus bad :(

have not played it but it looks very cool

[low cove]

Didn't exotek make it lol

[real oracle]

yes!!! every TRUE modder shits on their mod smh

[low cove]

Must be the way

[low cove]

Which one do you use?

[real oracle]

i play my own

called funkzone, it's not very popular like at all but its slowly comin along

[low cove]

Well what does it do

[real oracle]

bullshit

[low cove]

Lol

[real oracle]

i would not advise downloading rn cuz i made a huge math mistake and am working on an update

[low cove]

Do you know what the others do? I couldn't find like a list lol

[real oracle]

nope

you could try snowbound or azurelands

[low cove]

Idk either

What do they do

[real oracle]

hell if i know, i just talk to the authors of both a lot

[low cove]

Lmao fair enough

Where could I go to find out about which actually do

Even YouTube videos led me astray

[real oracle]

i think theres one guy who made a video about it

shadow has https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lksS1iL4XHU

theres another by milk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc9AaOEyTAs

no fucking wonder bones has way cooler shit than i do

he used sdk to just make bpd's a hell of a lot easier to code

[low cove]

Oof

He found a shortcut

[real oracle]

i never knew it was an sdk mod tbh

he doesnt talk about snowbound as much as i talk about funkzone

if i had to sum up my mod, bl3 in bl2

[low cove]

Lmao the pride scale

[real oracle]

i dont take pride in my mod

it's a shitpost at this point with a trace of genuine effort

[low cove]

Dms?

[tiny thorn]

I never read the actual work "Funkzone" tho..
It's always "This stupid math" or "That stupid math" or "look at this code, guys".
Hahaha

[mellow cape]

so ik i should probably use the one i already have but its no element and i play hellborn krieg so idk which i should use

like 100 runs on each warrior and sorcerer and ive only gotten 2 this one and the one i already had

[wind token]

I think slag applies double damage with slag guns so might be better

But you can already slag with insane swap speed so maybe just test

[mellow cape]

idk i think i do more with the no element one which rlly suckms

I do over 2.5x more with the no element holy shit ☠️

[nocturne mist]

slag guns dont get double damage when it slags things

[wind token]

@real oracle shooting slagged stuff with slag gun still buffs damage no?

[real oracle]

1.5x

the game halves the damage taken from slag while slagged

[wind token]

Ah

Slag with non slag is x3 then, I keep forgetting

Im always between 3 and 4

[tacit igloo]

If you don’t have a zero fuse longbow slag nade this or the slagga will just do fine

[wind token]

Its krieg

So slagga is no problem with the swap speed

[tacit igloo]

Yeh that’s why I said this or the slagga is just fine since Krieg skills help negate the need of a moxxi weapon most of the time

[real oracle]

what are you shooting lmao

[wind token]

Moxxi?

How did you come from the question to moxxi

[tacit igloo]

I was just saying those are two slag options that are also really good on Krieg without the scape goat of using a moxxi weapon to heal

Or applying slag in general

Think we can agree the other VH rely on the grog more than Krieg ever needs too

[wind token]

So you considered Grog as another slag option, I see

Yeah on krieg not really bcz totk and EE

[mellow cape]

sorcerer

[wind token]

Maya doesn't need to too

[rough galleon]

I mean, Maya doesnt really need Grog either
Gaige barely from shield upkeep, just wants a little regen to be above health gate

[wind token]

Sal is sal

[mellow cape]

i do but its like 54 and i main krieg

[wind token]

Axton and gaige probably survive by aggro relief (haven't played them)

And zer0 is just squishy so yeahhh

[rough galleon]

Ehhh, I feel Axton might need a little help?

Tho the regen hp off shooting can probs offset it

[mellow cape]

i pretty much only slag using grog

[wind token]

Even with the aggro relief?

[rough galleon]

Yeah, the Turret blows up quick in PC

[wind token]

Phalanx?

[rough galleon]

better than DT but expect it to die OP lvls

[tawdry shell]

axton has insanely good defense skills though

[tacit igloo]

His double turret shields cna make most mob areas a cake walk

[rough galleon]

Phalanx is a strong temp shield at best
its not gonna last for an actual long fight

[wind token]

Yeah plus Longbow and the magnet skill

[rough galleon]

HMMMM, ok I forgot that consideration

[real oracle]

they can resist elements

like the rest of tina dlc

because fuck the player, amirite?

[tawdry shell]

willing, able, healthy, preparation, quick charge, grit

[rough galleon]

those 4 skeletons kings are probs the most annoying fight from the dlc

I guess next to Handsome Dragon

[tawdry shell]

there might be some others but all his defense + aggro with turret really adds up

[rough galleon]

Grit chaining is the most funniest shit ever

[wind token]

I thought thats pretty default on axton no?

[rough galleon]

it is, I just wasnt thinking about it ngl LOL

[wind token]

44% chance go brr

[rough galleon]

was solely thinking of the turret's durability without being out of reach and his overall need for moxxi weapons

[mellow cape]

oooh

well shit i already sold 🤑

[wind token]

Well the durability depends on all those factors but yeah understandable

[rough galleon]

speaking of...I need to work on my Axton

ever since the 80 change, a lot of my 72s needed to level up...just finished Gaige so its just Axton and Salv left >.>

[wind token]

Dew it

I consider leveling an axton too

[rough galleon]

lol my gear and skills I did when I was just joshing with my friends

this is an really old playthrough

[rough galleon]

Quick Charge heh

[leaden stag]

I left some of my lvl 72s unleveled

nostalgia's sake cause they have op8

[opal ingot]

sham lol

[shut steppe]

b3nkr dropped me a avenger LOL

[shut steppe]

it could be transformer too

[opal ingot]

no cuz it doesn't have a visual maliwan capacitor

[rough galleon]

Tbf
Its very unoptimized in general

And ya, its a sham

I have two of the exact 83% chance xd

[shut steppe]

is this any good

[rough galleon]

I dont think avenger is used for anything else than smg ammo regen or possibly with the bee...?

[shut steppe]

vorac damage with axton

iirc

[rough galleon]

I guess

But if using for that
Corrosive kinda blows right off the bat

[shut steppe]

wtf is this

[rough galleon]

A turtle shield 🙂

[real oracle]

that is a hexagon

[nocturne mist]

it even looks like a turtle too

[tawdry shell]

used for raid speed kills on axton a lot

[shut steppe]

i havent seen a shield with no extra parts yet

[nocturne mist]

just use infection cleaner??

[wind token]

not sure if it matters but it's fire only

idk if any raids for non flesh bosses use it

[nocturne mist]

avenger is used for mostly killing tera iirc

wouldnt infection just be better

[real oracle]

yeah a lil bit better

[real oracle]

terra has grenade resistance because fuck you

[wind token]

just kill it lmao

what did i use for terra kill again? baby maker + interfacer i think

[real oracle]

true

time to port fish and make backdraft instakill terra

wait why havent i tried this yet

nvm

it doesnt base it off the damage dealt

[wheat harbor]

10% more damage
great

because
reasons

but if youre using a bee it matters less

[wind token]

@nocturne mist lowkey perfect

left side, dunno why it screened both

[nocturne mist]

is that a logans gun

why are you on salvador...

how dare you abandon your krieg save

[wind token]

LEFT SIDE

thats my mate on discord

[nocturne mist]

oh its yt

[wind token]

no my mate on discord, screenshare

watch left side

[wheat harbor]

torgue grip ):

maliwan pistols are so heavily needing matching grip

stupid 3 shot pistols

[leaden stag]

that sight on that thunderball is a crime

[tawdry shell]

does this have a good grip or should i keep farming

[leaden stag]

it looks like a slingshooter

[lucid crag]

what is the chance of 2 exact same parted shields same level

[wind token]

krieg

do you remember

[wheat harbor]

250% of 17 is a lot more than 250% of 11

[wind token]

yeah but with the insane reload damage might lowkey be better

one day i'll do the math for perfect krieg grips™️

[wheat harbor]

eehh
damage boosts are already made semi irrelevant by purple body

[wind token]

how so

[wheat harbor]

from the tball barrel and purple body you have 102% damage

purple body is +72% damage on all guns
thunderball is +30%

[real oracle]

how much grade is damage accessory

[wheat harbor]

the uh
9% from torgue grip isnt doing much

[wheat harbor]

3%

[wind token]

+9% is much more than +0%

[wheat harbor]

kek

[wind token]

but for the calculations i have to complete my database with all the data 😔

[wheat harbor]

but yeah
kriegs mag and reload boosts are scaling the value on the card
so boosting that card value gives a lot of value

[wind token]

i dont know if mag size really matters that much with the reload you have

one day i wanna figure out perfect krieg grips

[stiff palm]

Anyone can help me with pryo pete?

[wind token]

i already have this but filling it out by hand is so exhausting...

[serene escarp]

@stiff palm If you plan to play, boost, or trade with someone, please read #find-groups-and-trade to get set up! This channel has all the information you'll need about our LFG channels!
Getting started is as simple as assigning yourself a platform role in id:customize! Enjoy yourselves Vault Hunters!

[wheat harbor]

ig downtime is downtime
espeically with how fast krieg shoots

[wind token]

thats also a fair point

all grips might be pretty close to each other

@wheat harbormight need your help when i get to it because i need to figure out how to put the values together

especially with when krieg stuff gets taken into account

i remember some stuff gets calculated afterwards

[wheat harbor]

basically
all weapon part effects are calculated into a new value, this is what you see on the card
that is then used for the base of other boosts

so itll be like
(MaliwanWeaponType + MaliwanGrip) * (1 + PurpleBodyBonus) * (1 + Krieg boost)
for mag size

[wind token]

so no recalculations?

i remember there being some recalculation somewhere

[wheat harbor]

https://bl2.parts/calculations/#base-value-recomputation

[wind token]

So basically ItemStat = calculate by parts, then that is set as the new base and NewItemStat = calculate by skills with ItemStat as base?

[wind token]

@real oracle threw away everything except this, will take care understanding this character and getting gear at some point

should be a solid base

nvm this better

[real oracle]

most of the axton learning i think comes from turret managing and being able to kill shit before battlefront runs iut

[wind token]

+30% that much?

[real oracle]

it's also grenade damage

[wind token]

do you always use grenade splash weapons?

[real oracle]

but it's also one of his larger gun boosts

[wind token]

Still sounds a bit odd that +30% (if we assume no specific gun type) need to decide an entire mob fight.

[real oracle]

ig just optimizations

long as you put turret in a spot where it doesn't die but still distracts, you're good

[wind token]

Well, not optimizations. Your claim was that either you decide the fight by Battlefront or you lose.

[wind token]

So it's about the turret, not Battlefront?

[real oracle]

yknow what im just gonna be completely honest and drop the knowledgeable act

i have no fucking clue what im doing except that you put turret down and win

just make sure enemies shoot it, give turret a chance to shoot first

cuz i actually dont have anything else to say

[wind token]

wait what

[real oracle]

you like

shoot? i kinda just run in

and go into ffyl every few seconds

and it works

[wind token]

That's why I play krieg

Invincibility 24/7

[real oracle]

esp considering you can just throw a fastball in ffyl for a free second wind

or use a quasar to prevent backpedalling..for a free second wind

cuz if we look at his sources of gun damage, while not in ffyl, the legendary soldier boosting impact is already like 80%

on top of whatever other bullshit he has

[mellow cape]

2nd no element one and like 5 no fire breh

oh whoops wrong screenshot but still

[wheat harbor]

me who just
doesnt spec much into battlefront cause i forget to put turret down

but im also not playing on op10 so lol

[median cave]

@mellow cape

[mellow cape]

oh thats sick but sadly i dont have any points in bloodshed

[wind token]

So aren't I

I wanna unlock it on krieg once, see what builds get fucked and that's it. But idk when that happens.

[tiny thorn]

Is this a stupid broken Antagonist,
Or are these values normal?

[opal ingot]

it's a normal antagonist

[tacit igloo]

Isn’t 880 perfect tho

Not the hardest to get but I remember 880 being the highest

[opal ingot]

well to be fair antagonist is so stupidly good that even triple bandit is good

you can go for triple pangolin for capacity
triple bandit for recharge rate

[wind token]

perfect for reflect kills yea

[tiny thorn]

And is this kinda how I want to be gearing up Gaige to take advantage of Shock damage?

[tacit igloo]

Is quasar good for damage?

[tiny thorn]

I need Legendary Catalyst

[tacit igloo]

I always saw it as a tool more than a damage grenade

[tiny thorn]

I'm using it to pull enemies together for my shotgun & reflect. Just wondering if this was decent with Gaige.

[wind token]

at the end of the day it's a quasar so it's never bad

[tacit igloo]

Yeah a quasar is probably your best bet for a good low fuse longbow singularity

[wind token]

i can't speak for gaige but at the end of the day these are all great items, so i would just suggest trying it out

like, idk what you expect from absolute top tier items, they're probably good even without skill trees lmao

[tiny thorn]

I have to sludge my way through the TVHM story before I can start having fun with her.

[wind token]

you have two capstones without being through TVHM?

[tiny thorn]

It's 0.0 fuse, lol

[tiny thorn]

This dude instantly leveled me up to 80 loading into his game and took me to go kill a few bosses for drops.

And just one Capstone.
The green tree.

[wind token]

red too, you just didnt take it, but you could have

[tiny thorn]

Ah yeah, fug that skill.

I was shooting DT the other day like, "Why is he not changing element?" Then I remembered I didn't take that skill, haha.

[wind token]

that wasnt what i meant

i meant you had more than enough skill points to take two capstones

so i wondered how you are still in tvhm

[tiny thorn]

🧀

[wind token]

@wheat harbor was this correct?

[wheat harbor]

yea

[wind token]

so this means, i calculate item parts alone, then use those data to pull them over krieg mag size and reload speed (including EE)

i dont think i will include FF since i have that specced like never

[wind token]

bruh another one

[weak cosmos]

god damn bandits stole the gift cart

[real oracle]

loser

[real oracle]

the fuck

[wind token]

@tall surge this is part of what will come up

this is easily convertible into SQL commands now

[tall surge]

thas really sick

[real oracle]

gah damn marino cookin

[strong night]

E-tech torgue ?

[real oracle]

it's the swordsplosion

[strong night]

Oh

[shut steppe]

lvl 69 build

[nocturne mist]

its not on sale right now thats why

[tiny thorn]

It's 77% off right now

[nocturne mist]

what the fuck

[tiny thorn]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Is shit just more expensive for me on Steam?

[nocturne mist]

oh its bc you dont have hc

[tiny thorn]

What did I do??

[nocturne mist]

its because you dont have handsome colection

so you dont get more discounted

[tiny thorn]

I can't buy it bc I'm ugly

[nocturne mist]

they hate you

steams discrimating you

[tiny thorn]

Yeah bro, they knew I asked my gf to game for 30 minutes and decided to update steam right then..

Muffukkas

[nocturne mist]

damn

what bl2 dlcs do you have?

and do you have the pre sequel

[tiny thorn]

All of them.
I just don't have cosmetics.
And no, only 2.

[nocturne mist]

thats why its so expensive ig

bc i had hc i had everything plus tps

so it knocked more off the price for me

[shut steppe]

my personal gear

[tiny thorn]

I'll probably buy Pandora's but idk if I'm going to play BL1 or TPS ever. Just 2 & 3.

[shut steppe]

tps is underrated

it's much tougher in early levels than bl1 but it's more fun imo

[tiny thorn]

I'll have to check it out then.
I've just heard ppl say the TPS characters are the best in the series but that the gameplay of 3 is better than all the rest.

[nocturne mist]

the vault hunters in tps are so fucking good i really wish tps got to finish development

[tawdry shell]

bl1 is the best game in the series and i will die on that hill

[wind token]

yeah then we will also finally have dps comparisons so we can just plug in each weapon and see it

i will probably make it public then, it's currently hosted on my server under a password protected area

also just turn on/off every skill we need

[real oracle]

like just directly using the games data instead of having to painstakingly plug in every single value?

new gear calc v nice

[wind token]

yeah

it's technically not "using games data" but "using games data to generate SQL commands to generate a database based on games data"

and then use that database to do data analysis

[tiny thorn]

Just bc it's groundbreaking?
Nostalgia?
Story?

[wind token]

no reason to die on a hill, everyone needs different things to be satisfied

[tawdry shell]

it’s more fun then the other games for me

just has a feel the rest of the games don’t is all

[wind token]

oh dear

this database will also finally get us drop rates on demand

[real oracle]

can u also make it work for hp values?

[wind token]

well i need to write a parser for each object type but yes that would also be possible

[tiny thorn]

I'll have to revisit it.
Something about BL has got my obsessed and I can't figure out exactly what it is.
I like skill trees but I kinda hate RNG.
I like the art a lot..
The characters are ok and the story is decent.

[wind token]

hp values for each enemy at given gamestate you mean?

[real oracle]

ah that might suck then cuz some enemy hp values are fuckin hidden god knows where

some enemies have it in their aipawn, some in the aiclass

[wind token]

OH DEAR WE ALSO HAVE PERFECT ITEM ROLLS UNLIKE LOOT LEMON WHICH IS FIXED AT OP10

[real oracle]

and then some get overwritten by the pt3balancemodifier 💀

[wind token]

this is getting... interesting

[real oracle]

#bl3-media message

[tiny thorn]

Run left, run right. Run left again, then go right.

Haha

[tawdry shell]

i need to give bl3 a proper playthrough again at some point tbf

[wind token]

me too

sadly all the classes look like garbage

tps classes at least all look interesting but nothing in bl3 really catches my interest

[real oracle]

yeah i gotta keep moving