bl1-2-tps-media

[lofty flame]

Pretty good

You should recharge your batteries tho

[keen radish]

lol

[fair sluice]

🔥

[peak ether]

bro woke up and chose violence

[lofty flame]

Thats a lot of words...

[wheat harbor]

yeah thats bait

[signal stump]

I mean honestly though

he might be cooking

madhous with elements probably does match or best lascaux

[copper wasp]

I'm assuming sarcasm

[signal stump]

nah, at least none from me

https://youtu.be/WPq4m_OlB2k?feature=shared

madhous not that bad as it turns out

lascaux isn’t either but elements tends to be very very worth over non elemental

[lofty flame]

Oh that content creator

[signal stump]

if it was a troll post

it would be like, bearcat is better than dpuh

I don’t think the general bl2 playerbase has the creativity to make a shitpost with lascaux being the unbelievably good weapon to compare a bad one to

[tall surge]

bait used to be believable

[wheat harbor]

molmf
point invalid

[signal stump]

[peak ether]

Tbf

He is or at least was super knowledgeable on the game

[wheat harbor]

yeah but i couldnt care less how much knowledge he had

[peak ether]

I wasn't defending him as a person

just stating he was a good Zer0 player

[hasty egret]

Oh
First run

That's cool.

I keep getting perfect rolls on the first run this is fucked up

[peak ether]

Blejh

Dpuh

[hasty egret]

Blejh dpuh

[peak ether]

Tediore sight at least

[hasty egret]

Actually that's my least favorite lmao

TERRIBLE ROLL, FUCK THIS GUN

[peak ether]

good

[signal stump]

for his time maybe

[fluid robin]

why are my harold drops so bad i got like 1 harold in an hour

[signal stump]

but yeah I always use his videos for accessible gameplay of max op level (for the time) performance of a unique weapon

[fluid robin]

and it wasnt even the good prefix

[signal stump]

[verbal lava]

man this loading screen gun sucks

[south hamlet]

and people say you don't get legendaries from the snowman chest

[verbal lava]

Who the hell were you talking to in order to get that idea?

[south hamlet]

i mean some people say it

[verbal lava]

You say ‘some people’ who?

[shadow lodge]

Nobody can say a shit on snowman chest not on my watch

[south hamlet]

probably just bad luck

[south hamlet]

i've gotten like 4 legendary class mods in a day from tinder snowflake

[verbal lava]

Ah, YouTube comments
Wait, what video was this even under?

[wheat harbor]

just depends how much you farm

for the casual player, probably not many

for someone who spends all day farming it? yeah you might see some

[south hamlet]

well i don't

and i still get them everytime

[wheat harbor]

not modded?

[south hamlet]

nop

vanilla game

[wheat harbor]

just luck ig

ive never gotten much outta the chest

[south hamlet]

yea maybe

[verbal lava]

Like, me personally, I get a solid amount out of that chest, but I look for more than legendary

[south hamlet]

yea i'm only farming snowflake for a good snider and a topneaa for the peak

but it's still fun to get some WDs

plenty of the bee shields i got were from the snowman chest

[sullen girder]

Confirmation bias

And ppl here will say you don't farm Snowman for legendaries, not that you can't get them from snowman

[south hamlet]

i mean i do farm tinder snowflake for legendary class mods because i get them everytime from the chest

but again, it can be because of luck

[sullen girder]

Yeah the Gen 1 leg coms are the only legendaries I recommend actually farming for from Snowman Train

Because the "dedicated" farm is genuinely awful

[south hamlet]

also what do you mean by confirmation bias

[sullen girder]

They do minimal testing and use that as proof

Or just get unlucky/insanely lucky

[south hamlet]

yea that's exactly what i said

[heady marten]

If I remember the quality of the loot in the snowman chests are lower if it's at NVHM, so farming for legendary stuff in that mode will not offer desired results as much as TVH and UVH

[wheat harbor]

midgets?

[sullen girder]

Vermi

[wheat harbor]

ah

[wheat harbor]

dont think so

yeah just checked

[south hamlet]

i didn't even know vermivorous dropped any lol

[sullen girder]

Drop rates are the same for the other gen1 leg coms but for their respective VH

[fair sluice]

yall fw the 156 capacity bee shield?

[lofty flame]

Nah

[dry island]

thats kinda poggers

[wild robin]

Im on ps and im looking for all bl games but only see bl3 and ttwl whats up with that?

[sullen girder]

The lfg chats or the actual chats?

[wild robin]

the games themself

[sullen girder]

#borderlands-1 #borderlands-2
#the-pre-sequel

Probably just have them hidden

[wild robin]

no i mean the games on playstation store

[sullen girder]

Oh. Idk what to tell ya

Bl2 and Tps are probably labled under "The Handsome Collection" and if not, then Pandora's Box

[wild robin]

prob but i didnt see those either

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sullen girder]

[trim hinge]

funni

[real oracle]

wtf mod turns off scaling

which reminds me i gotta work on my fallout mod

[trim hinge]

iunno some mod i saw in nexus

[real oracle]

cuz it has basically 0 scaling too

except once this semester started i lost all focus

i love thermodynamics it absolutely didnt give me like 5 white hairs this semester

[trim hinge]

slag

[opal ingot]

no i think that's shock

[real oracle]

fuck it

ziomas is getting a funkzone

idk what you're gonna be but you're gonna be in the mod

it's too funny

[opal ingot]

lmao

are you my fan

[viscid mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246584088140447824/1246880146552520826/image.png?ex=665ff960&is=665ea7e0&hm=a5d0880f387e17247f6a4d90271a9398197481a2685bce74d9243915a0d0d03b& ayo when did brick switch teams

new raid boss

[real oracle]

no i just find your name funny

[opal ingot]

what the fuck

[tawdry shell]

bro did a spot dodge

[real oracle]

what the fuck

since when were you on my friends list

[opal ingot]

since like
idk

[real oracle]

aight thsi should surely work

if the game crashes im gonna

fuck

love thumper is proccing itself

i actualyl need to fix that

[opal ingot]

i'm just kinda like

[real oracle]

truly ziomas gameplay

bro thinks this is bl3 smh

[opal ingot]

lmao

[real oracle]

fuck man melee zer0 is hard on funkzone

no health gate means you sorta just

yeah

i have to do something evil

[signal stump]

nah that’s pretty based tbh

[signal stump]

someone translate these rune symbols to me

[opal ingot]

i might be him
all 5 rounds in one gunzerk

i almost failed cuz i ran outta rockets and had to look for a rl on the floor
plus buzzards are actually fucked in the head

[tawdry shell]

[viscid mortar]

gotta put all my points into Shit man otherwise I'm cooked

[opal ingot]

i might've cooked too hard
cuz i dropped myself to 30 fps

[viscid mortar]

how on earth

[real oracle]

∲F·dr = ∫∫∇xF·dA

[real oracle]

mods smh

[opal ingot]

old hungarian reference

[real oracle]

arent you from a black hole or something

[viscid mortar]

gun do funny thing

[opal ingot]

nopers

[real oracle]

man i need to super buff melee zer0

bro actually almost unplayable due to my T1 changes

[signal stump]

just change roid shields to work all the time

or on full shield instead of empty

[real oracle]

no not that

it's this fucking effect

zer0 cannot health gate

[signal stump]

💀

why did you do this

[real oracle]

go play cruelty squad and find out

[signal stump]

💀

[real oracle]

wym, dying in 0.2 seconds isnt accurate to the game?

see im making zer0 into MT Fuck

if you get spotted you just instantly die

[signal stump]

could it at least be equal damage dealt bonus with damage taken

[real oracle]

no

[signal stump]

[real oracle]

ror2 levels of dodging like a madman

i cant even strip my shield without dying lmao my fuckin health gate thing barely works

cuz for some reason when you spawn in the world you start with basically no health

punishment at least works by giving you a base roid so

i might just increase that

a lot

also i gotta remove kunai self damage it's so annoying

[signal stump]

how are you even taking kunai self damage

[real oracle]

not waiting

[signal stump]

you don’t even have to wait

you kunai then shield strip

[real oracle]

it fucking explodes

[signal stump]

that should be enough time

[real oracle]

also i cant shield strip

[signal stump]

I guess with lt you gotta wait

[signal stump]

💀

[real oracle]

i accidently balanced zer0 entirely around guns

[opal ingot]

oh boy i'll definitely have some work to do

[real oracle]

i should have tested this\

unfortunately thermo took all my time away

[opal ingot]

yup

[real oracle]

this might be an awful idea

hot loaders are the worst fucking thing in theg ame

nvm i forgot the shitman com does uhh

oops

what

[leaden stag]

only thing I hate about hot loaders is that they bug out bloodsplosion

[real oracle]

they just instakill me on melee zer0 cuz no health gate

[leaden stag]

cant you just make kunai do insane damage and problem solved

[real oracle]

but then no MMF proc

[leaden stag]

[real oracle]

i should make MMF break shield on deception

but i dont know how

[leaden stag]

the what now

[real oracle]

many must fall

[leaden stag]

a

yeah you'd need to take damage in some way

kinda like the oprhan maker effect

[real oracle]

which i cant cuz my CL just kills me

[leaden stag]

or get self dots after kills

[real oracle]

no idea how to fix this other than just give zer0 innate roid

[leaden stag]

melee damage 1000%

cant you circumvent roid shields to give you the boost regardless of current shields

[real oracle]

no

[leaden stag]

damn

[real oracle]

@wide fog hey actually

[wide fog]

uh yeah

[real oracle]

need a favor, see if this doesnt yell at you

[wide fog]

i’m not brown it’ll totally yell at me

[real oracle]

i plan on making a release today and need to make sure the clones dont yell

no i fixed it i think

[wide fog]

i’ll test it now hold on

[real oracle]

its cuz the way i nested clones

so i just took em all out

if something yells at you i'll fix it

[wide fog]

gimme a sec i booted with zetas mod

[real oracle]

i might have made zer0 too fast execute barely works

he is so fucking fast

[wide fog]

IT YELLS MORE

[real oracle]

i see

wait why the fuck is the barrel not cloning for you

[wide fog]

i dont have anything on that should fuckwith that

[real oracle]

nvm i might know what it was

just close the game and do something for a few minutes

[wide fog]

ill be on standby if you want another test

[real oracle]

this screenshot p much tells me everything

[wide fog]

good good glad i could help

whats with the new version?

[real oracle]

i forgot

[wide fog]

corbiusHolyFuck

delightful

[real oracle]

should?

[wide fog]

yep ur good

[real oracle]

cool

im gonna try and figure out what ive even done

[wide fog]

fuck patch notes just release it to the masses and let everyone else figure out whats changed

[real oracle]

true

i forgot to feature a ziomas reference

it'll be unsupered though

fuck it unb is getting a mention

[wide fog]

i played it that’s for sure

and mentioned a few things that were borked i guess

every copy of funkzone is personalised

[real oracle]

youve honestly more for the mod than doom but he got mentioned

but thats because of nepotism or whatever the version for just bribery is

[wide fog]

i gave whatever feedback i could, i did thoroughly enjoy my playthrough i will say

probably my favourite mod ive played next to snowbound

[real oracle]

the snowbound dev also plays ror2 is a true arti player

[wide fog]

i should play more ror

[real oracle]

if i ever catching you using alt loader punch im getting you banned

[wide fog]

i think ive played loader like once

my goat was bandit

[tawdry shell]

death by firing squad

[wide fog]

have you seen how underlevelled your weapons are

youre using a level 27 sniper

of course youre gonna do terrible damaghe

[mortal cobalt]

I don’t use it. I equipped it for something else haha

[wide fog]

or is that 42

i cant tell the bitrate on that video is terrible

[mortal cobalt]

Discord will update its bitrate overtime

[candid musk]

why u shaking that screen like thaaat

[mortal cobalt]

Prolly the C4 I just slammed

Got the jitters

I just learned you could turn the overview off on the skill tab.

[wide fog]

yeha

[mortal cobalt]

Lmao

[wide fog]

your build is fine

its ur weapons letting you down

[candid musk]

yeah

[real oracle]

prioritize bandit and hyperion shotguns with your build

[mortal cobalt]

Where should I farm for better guns? Cause the game ain’t just giving em to me by playing haha

[real oracle]

with this kill, jakobs will let you down

[mortal cobalt]

Well my jakobs has 3 mag size and consumes 3, so even on free shots don’t I get the money shot?

[real oracle]

nope

[candid musk]

nope

[real oracle]

plus you cant chain moneyshots with it

[candid musk]

go get a tryquetra

[mortal cobalt]

wtf is that

[real oracle]

with inconcievable you want automatic guns because they can chain moneyshot

nothing wrong with what you are doing, thus that the way you are specced is incompatible with jakobs

[mortal cobalt]

Define “chain moneyshot”

[real oracle]

but very strong wth automatic shotguns

[candid musk]

its a clan wars mission reward

[candid musk]

u get alot of money shots

[real oracle]

inconcievable procs on the last shot so that you just POW POW POW

doesnt work with jakobs

its the other popular sal build type

its more peak dps than deputy sal but is inconsistent by nature

[mortal cobalt]

Honestly, my main killers so far have been the slag dart, and the hornet. About the time I looked at bloodwing though, it seems like they just stopped really doing anything for me. And I can’t find a good shield for the life of me.

[candid musk]

do u have any dlcs?

[real oracle]

do you have a rubi? i didnt see

[mortal cobalt]

I got the season pass, so whatever came with that. And I bought that mecromancer pack.

No Rubi

[candid musk]

go to a fastt travel and scroll al the way down

and send a pic

[candid musk]

uf no dlcs

[mortal cobalt]

No headhunters no

[candid musk]

u have em wdym

[mortal cobalt]

The ones with the * I don’t have

[candid musk]

idk on my ps5 all dlcs are down

[real oracle]

nah they have an asterisk

[candid musk]

oooooooooooh

[tawdry shell]

the season pass is a scam lmao

[mortal cobalt]

I came to eridium blight to farm King Mong. Worth or no?

Yeah, you get the crater, oasis, and hunters grotto.

[tawdry shell]

if you want the badaboom yeah, really strong rocket launcher

[candid musk]

handsomejack colection ftw

[mortal cobalt]

I played through the crater on nvhm, haven’t touched the others

[tawdry shell]

plus some good eridium

[mortal cobalt]

He’s a level 49. Rip. Even with my amp glitch, it barely touches his health 😂☠️

[candid musk]

u need new gear

[mortal cobalt]

Well, the amp glitch is additive, not multiplicative right? So a gun doing 10k damage on level with me, is still not gonna touch the 400k+ I deal with the amp right?

[real oracle]

no thats why you get a lady fist

so you can basically multiply that damage by 9

[candid musk]

what vh should i do to op10 next?

[mortal cobalt]

Lady fist is so inaccurate first shot though so it’s not a reliable hitter

[real oracle]

yeah but after 3 it's perfect

oh you're specced into this

this is bugged on hyperion guns so it's understandable

hyperion guns are so good on sal, but this skill is so good with other weapons

it's such an unfortunate bug

[mortal cobalt]

What?

So what, is that adding more recoil to my lady fist?

[candid musk]

is it valid or nah

[real oracle]

valid

nvm

wait

no nvm that's pain is power, yeah valid build

sorry im stupid

[candid musk]

xd

its ok

[mortal cobalt]

What’s the bug exactly?

[real oracle]

makes them less accurate instead of more

basically undoes their entire strength and it feels like shit

[mortal cobalt]

Bro.

Ima go kms

[real oracle]

but its not always worth speccing OUT of the skill because its almost needed on non hyperion guns

all because some fuckhead forgot a negative sign

[mortal cobalt]

That sucks

Okay. What are other good options for multiplying damage. Other than slag

[real oracle]

critical hits

[candid musk]

u can do the ladyfist in right hand and the gun in left does the 800% crit too

[real oracle]

^

[mortal cobalt]

What!?

That’s absurd haha

[candid musk]

salvdaor is the buggiest

[mortal cobalt]

So like lady right hand, good shotgun of sorts in left hand, barrel stuff?

[real oracle]

kinda, hand doesnt really matter unless you do deputy sal

[candid musk]

yes

[mortal cobalt]

Idek what deputy Sal is lmfao

[candid musk]

its like u do money shot build

[real oracle]

jakobs shotgun with no inconcievable to spam money shot

[candid musk]

or thats what i know

[real oracle]

shotgun has to be in the left hand due to

code

[candid musk]

spagheti code

[real oracle]

but if you spec inconcievable, you dont use jakobs shotguns

[candid musk]

anyone know a fast way to get longbow singularity 0.0-0.5 fuse?

[candid musk]

i play on ps

[mortal cobalt]

What is a chubby rakk

[candid musk]

its a rare enemy with better loot

[real oracle]

does nothing before level 62

[candid musk]

fr

[mortal cobalt]

It’s level 51. I can’t kill it if I wanted to

[candid musk]

xd

[mortal cobalt]

I was trying to save the side quest till I beat the warrior so they scale up to my level before uvhm. Is there another good way to level up besides side quests?

Cause my next mission, literally every enemy is outta my league haha

[candid musk]

to like get a weapon?

i mean to get a weapon at ur lvl then get it again at lvl 50

[mortal cobalt]

Just to have on level gear for uvhm

[candid musk]

u can upload ur character then download it

get the weapon on save 2 put it in claptratps stash

then del that save and get i t on save 1

and u still have the mission adn weapon

[mortal cobalt]

I just powered through the story missions, so I’m underleveled for where I’m at. And I don’t wanna do side quests till I beat the warrior

[candid musk]

u can farm some bosses

[mortal cobalt]

Bro that’s a lot

Hey, why can’t I use shift

For golden keys. I have like 300 golden keys on the shift website, but can’t access it in game? Any clues?

[candid musk]

wdym u cant

letss goo

[opal ingot]

anybody else think this is the even more optimal way to rocket jump

excluding the shock badaboom transformer combo

i need to be doing that combo more often

wait i've been in bl2 for 5 hours straight
oh no

[real oracle]

you can just like

[opal ingot]

i know

[real oracle]

make a launcher with a single rocket and 60000000 momentum

but you didnt

[opal ingot]

i don't know

[real oracle]

thought they taught you that in kindergarten smh

[opal ingot]

smh

no they taught me how to speak c1 slovene

[real oracle]

fake advertising, this ziomas isnt super

[dry island]

how does one do that

[real oracle]

you just make it

[dry island]

[opal ingot]

i learned a new trick involving double shotting

[real oracle]

local man discovers salvador has skills

[opal ingot]

also for some reason my clips didn't show up after finishing the recording so i thought something was fucked

i experienced the mortar shot

the fastest face mcshooty ever

i turned into deceptix

[real oracle]

woohoo

holy shit perfect

im torn between Agent Fuck, Detached Loser, Cruel Agent or just CS Agent

[leaden stag]

just CS agent

[cunning sable]

man

[south hamlet]

wait this could be a speedrun category

create a new save, get to thousand cuts and shoot face mcshooty as fast as possible

[south hamlet]

are you fukin kidding me man

i'm farming the sham for 2 days now

and i get this

this hunka junk

[vestal elm]

https://open.spotify.com/track/30jh8pI4FrLBLjGsyz2WIT?si=98d289cb771d402c

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-mood-listening-to-music-headphones-gif-20933203

[real oracle]

hard

[opal ingot]

time for this shite

[real oracle]

this bouta be a fucking hard video

[candid musk]

on op 10 when

[opal ingot]

never

[candid musk]

xd

[opal ingot]

optimal parts farm

epic hero's pass speedrun

i now realized that i didn't need to make my norfleets level 72
fuck me

trick shot

final one

all side quests with one character done

[opal ingot]

boom

[opal ingot]

time for all side quests in hammerlock

[real oracle]

wow you're so skilled

how do you do it honestly

you should post this on the bloons reddit

[opal ingot]

do what

i just kinda
do

[real oracle]

like

defeat wotan

[opal ingot]

i fish it or shoot it

[real oracle]

yoo ima try that

[opal ingot]

giant^2

[covert token]

These movements make me so fucking jealous, I'm on xbox and can never do that with controller

[tawdry shell]

i mean you can just takes practice

[trim hinge]

roller debuff lol

[real oracle]

aight we bouta cook

@tall surge hey would "mechromage" look better with or without a hyphen

looks mild

[tall surge]

Without

[real oracle]

one of the designs ever

love how im not describing what that does

aight so the uhh

yeah the complex root does NOT compare to the storm on my gaige

BRO HAS PROC CHAINS

what the fuck have i done

i might need to nerf dt

this might be an awful idea

[tall surge]

you should give DT spare drone parts

[real oracle]

i wish

wait i should make dt kill event actually work with shock

idk if his shock storms count

it's

it's beautiful

it's exactly how i imagined it

one dot just cascading

and all this shit too ig

@tawdry shell this might go really hard next update

[real oracle]

i should have this working by then

[tawdry shell]

something something will o wisp

[real oracle]

i'll test boosted EB on a boss eventually™️

but rn i need to get soul sap working

actually i think i already called a skill that

unb can you check left tree for that

[tall surge]

gasoline pog

[tawdry shell]

[real oracle]

psg p peak item ngl

how do i port it to bl2

[tall surge]

shield with 7 recharge delay thats just 8% of your max hp

[real oracle]

yeah

it's good in a game where you literally die in one hit

so why not port it to a game where people only think you do

truly it will work

[wheat harbor]

i did something similar but i might fuck around with it more to be like that
where the shield cap is based on your health

currently its like a turtle with a mega penalty but the health penalty also converts to make shield

[opal ingot]

one more

oh okay

cool

[severe stump]

Oh my god, I just found this after finding their vid on a shotgun that plays MainFrame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjAPS8waqn0

God, I wish Gearbox would make something like this

[tall surge]

yoo the exodus guy

[opal ingot]

what the lootsplosion should've been

[covert token]

Pretty close to perfect right? For pimper sal

[opal ingot]

good enough
has damage parts and no rocket speed

coolers

[tidal obsidian]

I would pay Gearbox for that gun like if was a DLC

I need it

So

BAD

[opal ingot]

super biker badass
splendid wording

[severe stump]

SAME

[severe stump]

Whoa

[opal ingot]

fuck me

[real oracle]

i can help with that

but i dont feel like it

[opal ingot]

cool

[real oracle]

maybe if you got top 50 in bloons you would have the challenge done,,

[opal ingot]

smh

[fast idol]

Done it already, or can I help? Closest level character I got is 69 though, so dunno if pubbing the game is possible.

[opal ingot]

still need a person
let's dm

[real oracle]

wonderful

@tall surge smh gaige bad look how long that took

[torpid temple]

so much blue

[tall surge]

[real oracle]

unlike zer0

smh rap

[real oracle]

gameplay

i need to remove barrels cuz this shit keeps blowing them up

[south ocean]

Which better

[worn coyote]

What mods are you using

[south ocean]

Idek i use everything tbh

[real oracle]

my world drop rates are STILL too high

man i gotta turn up the eridium drops

[marsh gate]

try them out and see what you like

[heady marten]

Legendary Hunter
It's got bonus crit like Legendary Killer, but also boosts reload speed and cooldown, and adds a little bow on top of it all by giving you free health when you use deception.

In my opinion at least

It's a perfect for all builds class mod

[lofty flame]

You do get more damage out of the more specialized coms though

[heady marten]

True, but I don't know their skill tree spec so Legendary Killer migh actually be more useful

[lofty flame]

Also id take it just for +7 killer

[heady marten]

True, that bonus is pretty huge

[lofty flame]

Which is just insane

[heady marten]

One hit kill crits and instant reload

[lofty flame]

Also +6 ambush

[torpid temple]

That's modded, isnt it

[lofty flame]

Abso fucking lutely

[torpid temple]

Kinda lame imo

[tawdry shell]

nuh uh rare 1 time drop first person to ever get it

[lofty flame]

Surely

I really dont mind people modding stuff like that on their lobby cuz... its a pve game after all

[torpid temple]

Yeah true

It's just that mods like those I feel like take the fun away a bit, that's all

[heady marten]

Also it's been out for such a long time, adding mods and features keeps it entertaining longer

[tawdry shell]

actual modding yea, like if that was a class mod you could farm part of some weird mod then it'd be neat, but just getting weird gibbed items drop to you is a little lame

[heady marten]

It spoils the fun of hunting, so I understand completely

[lofty flame]

The only time i """mod""" is for bl3 class mods and artifact rolls

And also giving anoints to weapons that cant spawn with them like basically all dlc quest rewards

[humble junco]

what the fuck are you listening to

[tawdry shell]

i think that's the congratulations song pewdiepie made?

[opal ingot]

yes

[tawdry shell]

when the whole t seires thing was going on

[opal ingot]

this is a clip of me getting the final achievment i needed so i thought it was appropriate to put this song in

[humble junco]

I thought the voice sounded a bit familiar

[static quail]

why does windowed borderless lag everytime i tab out? isnt the point of it that it doesnt lag out

[real oracle]

yes that is the point

does it work?

no of course not

[viscid mortar]

zer0 is built different

is this a decent harold?

This is my first ever harold and I just tested it out....killed a badass without slag faster than I usually kill them with slag...on UVHM

I can see why it's a good weapon now

Time for it to carry me from lvl 70 to 80 🙏

just gotta pick up a grog nozzle and a better shield and I'll be good

[viscid mortar]

also what relic do yall recommend I use if the harold is my main dps

[verbal lava]

If not the Bone, the Sheriff’s Badge, if not the badge, get out

[viscid mortar]

Got it

[viscid mortar]

holdon why is the bone good?

it doesn't come in explosive I'm pretty sure

[verbal lava]

No, it doesn’t
The cool-down as well as the elemental boost is what makes it good

[viscid mortar]

or is it just for the cooldown

[verbal lava]

I mean, you’re gonna have to use more than just a Harold

[viscid mortar]

eh fair

so do I just keep this one equipped for now?

until I get a weapon with an element that can be buffed by the bone

[verbal lava]

If the cooldown on that relic is better than the bone you have currently

[viscid mortar]

my COM also gives me a 38% cooldown rate

[viscid mortar]

I don't have a bone

I was just wondering what relic I should grind

if there were any better than this

[heady marten]

Put one in your bank and use the other if you aren't sure which to hold on to

The bone is good, but that proficiency stat is pretty awesome

[verbal lava]

I mean, if I was gonna be rough on optimisation, I’d be showing you the door when you’re saying you’re gonna be using the Harold on Zer0, so I reckon you’ll be fine with either or

[viscid mortar]

I'm using sal

[verbal lava]

Ah, missed that

[viscid mortar]

yea I think I got pretty lucky with it

[verbal lava]

Saw that and didn’t notice you were replying

[viscid mortar]

ah alright np

also I got a leg berserker and a leg hoarder class mods

which one should I be using

or does it depend on my setup and skill tree

also if I'm using the grog and a harold should I invest some points into divergent likeness?

30% damage seems nice

[heady marten]

Both are good
I always carry a hoarder of any variety for Sal cause it's free ammo on demand
Both are good. Depends on whatever you feel like. But yeah, if one has more skill boosts for your current build, I'd use that more often

[viscid mortar]

alright thanks, I'll just put the hoarder in the bank for now since the extra movement speed and cooldown rate are nice

and it alines more with my current skill tree

[heady marten]

Yeah, the bank is awesome. You can always go back and use the other when you feel like it

[viscid mortar]

exactly

[heady marten]

I keep different class mods there so if I'm using a Brawn build, I pull out my mods for that, and store my Gun lust or Rampage mods for when I wanna switch things up later

[viscid mortar]

yea it's fun having the ability to use multiple playstyles or builds depending on your COM

[heady marten]

One mod I always carry though is the Legendary Beserker. It's just all around good. Boosted health regen, bonus fire rate, and even if filled to the brim isn't popular for high ammo capacity, I love getting extra mag size

[viscid mortar]

anyway now that I got a harold time to do the rest of the tiny tina dlc and get the grog

[heady marten]

You can get a Harold from the Torgue Vendors, or from what's his name in Three Horns

[viscid mortar]

fire rate also works great on sal from my experience and the extra mag size is nice if your reload spead isn't fast

[viscid mortar]

savagly

savagely?

[heady marten]

Savage Lee

[viscid mortar]

I don't know that guy

[viscid mortar]

oh yep

that's where I went to get the harold anyway

[heady marten]

Also the same area for the fast ball so you can farm both, so if you aren't having luck with the Harold, you can try getting one of the best grenades in the game too

[viscid mortar]

may be a bit slow without rocket jumping but eh I got it

[viscid mortar]

I think I'll go for that later

just needed something to deal with the skeles in the dlc honestly

[heady marten]

If you have "double your fun" and a fastball, you are throwing two and scoring both impacts on an enemy is just an instant kill. I use it to kill the warrior fast

Also works good on Zer0 cause grenades don't end deception early

[viscid mortar]

I always pick that up no matter my skill tree

very useful for clearing out certain rooms

especially since I got an antifection

very nice against fleshy enemies

the shields do usually take up most of the damage....maybe I should get a chain lightning honestly

[heady marten]

[viscid mortar]

or as you said, a fastball

how far into the dragon keep dlc can I get the grog?

[heady marten]

Chain lightning is one of my favorite grenades
It's easy to use, and regenerates your supply at the same time

Also it's my favorite element

[viscid mortar]

also seems to be one of the best for sal, if not the entire game tbh

[heady marten]

Gaige, Sal, any works
Combined with a Moxxi gun, because it can effect multiple enemies you can heal up fast

[viscid mortar]

I looked at the guides they have pinned in general, the only grenade that was listed there was the chain with the fast ball being an honourable mention

[viscid mortar]

G R O G#

If only it wasn't a quest item

[heady marten]

[viscid mortar]

how does a lady fist work with a harold?

wait this should prob be in BL2 not media

[wheat harbor]

more crit damage

but harold doesnt generally focus on crit

as the splash wont crit

and the pattern makes it hard to crit

[viscid mortar]

yea still benefits from it, just not as much as some other guns

[wheat harbor]

yup

[viscid mortar]

ig I can switch to a lady fist if I'm fighting a boss with a big crit spot and I alr got them slagged

[heady marten]

It can take a while. You gotta go through various levels till you reach the dwarven mines

It'll be a sidequest from the Clapt Trap wizard where you gotta get dwarves drunk and lure them into a crushing machine to get their beards, which is freaking hilarious every time. Just make sure you don't do the mission and you'll keep the grog for as long as you like.

It'll also change stats and parts each time you reload the game, so expect some good versions, and also some not so good. But a grog is a grog

[viscid mortar]

I legit just got into the dwarven mines and opened discord to see this

you're very helpful ty mate

[viscid mortar]

grog is indeed grog

also other than the grog quest, is there any other quest in the game that I shouldn't complete?

just so I don't end up doing something that will take 50 hours to fix (starting a new character 😭)

[heady marten]

Probably play it safe and don't lure all the dwarves into the machine
If you do it might take the grog even if you don't turn the mission in

[viscid mortar]

also I knew the harold was good but I didn't expect it to be 2-shotting badasses

very cool weapn

[viscid mortar]

will do thanks

[viscid mortar]

this it?

[heady marten]

Yes

[viscid mortar]

time to do it ig

or not do it 😭

I got the funy gun

time to finish my setup with a bee shield ig

or just a better shield than the one I'm using now

maybe a rough rider honestly

Actually I'm gonna go for that

hammerlock dlc time

[languid patio]

Crazy

[severe stump]

Don't mind me, just randomly posting one of my favorite voicelines

[glass vessel]

We got to cook clap

Llama cigs

[severe stump]

Pfft-

[glass vessel]

@vestal elm you smoke Llamas?

[vestal elm]

if you say so

[glass vessel]

Look above bruv

[glass vessel]

@vestal elm

[vestal elm]

oh 😭

[sick spade]

dpuh from Saturn

[trim hinge]

looks like dahl grip

very bad

[heady marten]

Double penetrating is still pretty good of a version

[opal ingot]

[real oracle]

oh sweet this already exists

wahoo

hey does anyone know how to like

sneak in an activateskill on the enemy here without breaking every link

i do NOT feel like re linking the entire bpd 💀

wait why am i keeping the cause damage

i really hope this works

[real oracle]

seems good?

it's not proccing but

OH IT'S PROCCING ON ME

i should not have that much health

@wheat harbor hey what the fuck

sweet

fixed it

uhh only problem is i dont know if it actually worked

smh

yeah it totally didnt, now that i think about it

cuz of this bit

yeah i honestly cannot tell if it's even working

guess thats why its wip

wait im stupid

oh

oops

wait no cuz that should be fine

well it works now

uhh oops

christ

huh why is it not lowering their shield capacity

[real oracle]

hehe

@tall surge hmmmm

the terra com might actually

[tall surge]

what the fuck

[lofty flame]

Kinda reminds me of Elden Ring's destined death

[real oracle]

wip™️

fuck i accidently renamed every terra com to harbinger of hate

i forgot you have to make a new prefix for each one

im sure this is a good name

thats a good name

no it isnt i need a better one

this one tho

[tall surge]

bob com

[real oracle]

i have an idea for preshrunk

cuz i intend to keep anarchy mana at 50 stacks no matter what

no idea if it'll work

[real oracle]

hehe

[real oracle]

bruh i cant even get this com to work

apparently making the legendary anarchist boost preshrunk makes the com break

because ???

cross dlc coms cant boost herskills ????? what

even though the SLAYER OF TERRA boosts preshrunk i cant use the attribute

this game is fucking terrible why do i even try to mod it

so it just has to boost...strength of 5 gorillas i guess

and not my speed damage skill

speeb

ok so i was talking to pawn and i think i actually cant put preshrunk on this com

i might have a way around this?

nope

[lethal mason]

I’m fast as fuck X10

[real oracle]

aight uhh

i dont know why it links the projectile twice in vanilla but

i hope my sketchy ass code works

™️

it did not

gonna have to slap a fat wip on this one

[cunning sable]

that sounds like the shock storm skill she has

[real oracle]

the thing is

i just made shock storm proc off dots too

so that shock storm procs a shock dot on another enemy

which procs EB

i want this skill to also sorta

killing an enemy with a skill

however it doesnt work

no idea why, my bpd seems to be consistent

everything's linked im p sure

[cunning sable]

youve made Will o wisp

[real oracle]

do i actually need to proc the activate skill

what does it even do

it's literally only there to prevent this from proccing

gives death from above a delay of 2s per proc

i want to remove that

wait actually i already removed the conditional anyway

[real oracle]

ok this might work

i think it works

ok im nerfing

[tawdry shell]

[real oracle]

something is doing way too much damage for me to proc it holy shit

[peak ether]

the fuck!?

"nothing good" my ass

[polar crown]

It could be better

[peak ether]

That's an almost perfect Defiler

and a Masher Equalizer

both of those are strong

[polar crown]

Ik that’s been my main gun

Look at the level difference

It’s been with me for awhike

[peak ether]

I ignore item lvls

Bl1 scaling is very soft

so you have strong rolls last 20 lvls if lucky

DoTs from ele weapons also do on lvl dmg regardless of the gun's actual lvl

so that Defiler will still kill at lvl 69 so long as the enemy doesn't resist corrosive

[polar crown]

But it fan still be better

[peak ether]

yeah you're set for now

[peak ether]

no not really outside splitting hairs over Barrel 4 vs Barrel 5 or mat3

which are tiny and I mean tiny improvements

never go for perfect rolls

settle for the strongest you can get

and uh

what you have rn is already beyond overkill

[polar crown]

U sure?

[peak ether]

yes

[real oracle]

just get your prof up and hit crits smh

i got to max level with just green revolvers

funny craw moment

[peak ether]

I've killed Craw w/ a green revolver

[real oracle]

yeah

and then i got a perfect unforgiven first kill

down to the last detail

[peak ether]

the bar for usable equipment is low

[real oracle]

idk if you remember that

[peak ether]

I don't

[real oracle]

it was a while ago

[polar crown]

Whats max proficiency

[real oracle]

50

[peak ether]

^

[polar crown]

Im at 35

[peak ether]

+48 weapon dmg for all types

[polar crown]

Why would the defiler be better tho?

[peak ether]

DoTs

[polar crown]

What’s that

[peak ether]

damage over time

the Defiler's pretty much melt almost everything

[polar crown]

Does it come in masher

[real oracle]

no

[peak ether]

no

[real oracle]

but the comical amount of splash it has is uh

yeah

[peak ether]

Ele guns can't be Mashers

[real oracle]

honestly you get a defiler every 5 levels anyway so

[peak ether]

because both effects come from accessories

[real oracle]

revolvers are just comically busted so any even ok revolver can carry you all the way to craw

if it somehow doesnt it's 100% on you

[peak ether]

yeah they're pretty much the best gun type in the game

[real oracle]

for the other weapon types you need to think just a little bit

[peak ether]

Revolver Mordy has the fastest Craw kills too btw

[wheat harbor]

boosted crit and reliably accurate makes revolvers so good

[real oracle]

from instant to

..mildly more instant

[polar crown]

Actually ?

[peak ether]

fyi

[real oracle]

tho getting craw kills instant takes like some more specific loot

a good masher, a penetrator bessie skullmasher etc

but anyone can do it

[peak ether]

Gun Crazy doubles Masher pellets

[peak ether]

from 7 to 14

[real oracle]

if you dont have the right loot craw kills might take a few more seconds if you know how to abuse his ai

and a few minutes if you dont

[peak ether]

I fucking love this game

[real oracle]

i do too but i find it empty at the end game

instakilling craw is only fun the first couple dozen times

[peak ether]

eh I just play it because I like it that much

[real oracle]

i love the levelling tho

[peak ether]

but yeah there isn't much after Craw

outside Underdome

[polar crown]

What’s the special ability of the defialer

[real oracle]

more tech and damage

[peak ether]

just really high tech pool and super DoTs

[real oracle]

yeah

[polar crown]

High tech?

[real oracle]

tech is uh

[peak ether]

also it doesn't have the 40% ele base dmg penalty

[real oracle]

ok all you need to know is more is better

because it is a mathematical nightmare

[peak ether]

^

think of it as a mana pool

[polar crown]

Uhhh

Explain

[peak ether]

when an ele effect procs some of it is drained

[polar crown]

Procs?

Bro please i’m like an old man when it comes to the technical side of borderlands

[peak ether]

when it's gone you can't proc again until it recharges

[real oracle]

so each level of tech proc has both a probability weight, and takes a certain amount of tech which is constantly being refilled up to a maximum

there is a table of it somewhere

but you cant even control it

you dont need to know

literally all that matters is more tech = good

because you have 0 control over it

[polar crown]

Huh

[real oracle]

all you gotta know is the defiler is really good at getting the level 4 procs

[peak ether]

you know how when you shot an ele gun sometime the shot exploads on impact?

[real oracle]

and having comically high dots so you can basically shoot an enemy once and afk if you didnt one shot them

[polar crown]

Yeah

[peak ether]

that's a proc

[real oracle]

tech is an invisible meter basically

sometimes when you shoot the gun takes different chunks out of it according to some probability and then does

some fuckin wizardry

that you have no control over outside of just "shoot gun"

[peak ether]

like Funko said this is smth only a tiny percent of ppl will find useful

[real oracle]

no one will find it useful

it's just how it works

this is like me telling you the difference between heat and temperature while you're waiting for your coffee to cool

[polar crown]

Okay so tech, affects the probability of proc, and proc affects aspects of the bullets

[peak ether]

oh no it doesn't affect probabilty

[real oracle]

does someone have a chart of all the probabilities

[peak ether]

probability is determined by gun type

it's in Bl1 pins

[polar crown]

Yk what i’m not gonna think too much into this

But tech is good right

[peak ether]

yes

and tbh it still confuses me a bit

[polar crown]

Also like

How much incresse mag size percentage in perks do i need before i actually get another bullet in this defiler

[peak ether]

uh

[real oracle]

0 because reloading is faster

[peak ether]

Mordy can't get enough

only Roland can

[real oracle]

i think roland also has enough fire rate for just shooting to be faster too

[peak ether]

if your revolver has mag 5 at least

[real oracle]

cuz reloading isnt always faster

[polar crown]

Okay wait what the fuck okay so

[peak ether]

the 6 shot mags Hair Trigger will give a 7th shot but all 3 of them are worse than mag 5

[polar crown]

why does my defiler 1 shot a crit yet it has lower base damage but doesn’t have enough time for DOT to kick in

[real oracle]

is it doing that already or is that just what we said

[peak ether]

Mag 5

[real oracle]

mag 5 is the funny one yeah?

i forgot

[peak ether]

comically large dmg bonus and the only downside is you only have 2 shots in the mag

[real oracle]

still fires faster than the other mags somehow

thank you gearbox

gotta love mashing r after shooting

[peak ether]

there is litteraly zero reason to not want mag 5 on revolvers

[polar crown]

What is mag 5?

[real oracle]

the one with 2 shots

[polar crown]

Why

[real oracle]

it's the best and it's stupid

[peak ether]

2 shot mag on revolvers

[polar crown]

For the reload speed?

[real oracle]

yes

[peak ether]

^

[real oracle]

you shoot faster with mag 5 because you reload every shot

than every other mag

alongside just a massive damage boost

the idea of the part was slow and strong but they forgot the slow

so it's just strong

[peak ether]

Free 105% dmg increase

[polar crown]

Jesud

[peak ether]

yeah

it's dumb

[real oracle]

as a whole in bl1 you want the smallest mag size generally

just cuz those parts are always overtuned

[peak ether]

you want it on all of your revolvers

[polar crown]

Interesting

[peak ether]

eh Idk about that

[real oracle]

it's not as egregious as in bl3 i will say that

[peak ether]

Shotgun mag 5 is just revolver mag 5 but actually balanced

[real oracle]

did you see what i did with gaige btw

[peak ether]

so it's an actual consideration to not run it

MGs mag 5 is the largest and straight up just an upgrade across the board outside reload speed

but for revolvers mag 5 is what you always want and is the most important part

Bl1 parts are just weird in general but it's the best parts system imo

[wheat harbor]

its the most interesting

but the balance is messy

[peak ether]

better than Bl3's ???? or 2's you need matching grip or else

Bl3 parts make my brain explode

[wheat harbor]

bl3 part system is better than 2’s

just
too much

and goofy balance

[real oracle]

too much rng yeah

i think it'd be the best if there wasnt 10 million parts or something

[peak ether]

yeah they should've cut down on how many there were

Tbh I prefer 2's parts still

way easier to memorise

[wheat harbor]

i just hate how its balanced

because parts dont have a purpose

instead manufacturer bonuses

creating a really messy system

[peak ether]

2's or 3's

[wheat harbor]

2’s

3 just has too many parts and small parts to make it memorable

but theres still stuff thats visually recognisable

can easily tell masher jakobs pistols

[peak ether]

DP prefix Torgue pistols

[real oracle]

yeah usually it says masher

[wheat harbor]

i mean that too

just look at the card

[real oracle]

but the masher accessory is also just

honestly i instantly learned it

[wheat harbor]

its a masher grip

[real oracle]

monkey brain

[wheat harbor]

the weird angle grip

[real oracle]

oh you mean bl3 lmao

[wheat harbor]

yea

[real oracle]

i thought you meant bl1 mashers

[peak ether]

Rifle grip on a pistol

[real oracle]

no i havent learned many parts in bl3 and i dont care i just save edit it

[wheat harbor]

learning parts is still silly

only works when either
objectively best ranked parts
awfully balanced parts where one is better

[peak ether]

I think it should be realistically doable

[wheat harbor]

i just think judging off parts rather than looking at the ui is dumb

and leads to bad comparisons

[peak ether]

thing is

[real oracle]

yeah true ive become convinced to just tell players just look at the card and get a feel for it