NERF ECLIPSE

[toxic kayak]

u can’t waste ur if u can’t see it

[astral ether]

You can

[toxic kayak]

there no way u can see it coming it’s like mine ability

[astral ether]

Just have your camera out

To be zoomed in too close

[toxic kayak]

i zoom in or out?

[astral ether]

You can tell if a player uses mine

[astral ether]

Out

Like

My buddy lit showed me how to counter it when they reaction steal it from afar

It's so easy

[toxic kayak]

yea but what abt medium and close range ?

[astral ether]

Anyone can react if you right next to them, theirs no countering that, but you can still counter medium range

Jp and gold got the same issue

Maybe cyber too

Every jp reskin has the same issue

[knotty sphinx]

“Remove the only thing that makes eclipse good guys!”

[toxic kayak]

i did not say remove it

i just want it to give some leeway so some people have the time to dribble

[wet warren]

Fr

[astral ether]

Just pass

[toxic kayak]

i want to but the moment i touch the ball for a millie second they steal it

[astral ether]

Pass as soon as you get the ball

[toxic kayak]

Passing isn’t a fix when the steal triggers the frame you touch the ball

i’m mobile btw

almost zero windup and iframe ignore is bad a design

[astral ether]

It has wind up

It's not like it's stealing instantly

[toxic kayak]

that’s why i said almost

but it’s way too fast

it’s not even a. skill issue if i can’t even press buttons before i get stolen off

u talked about long range

sure i can see it coming

but medium and close range is not it gng

i tested

[astral ether]

Fps issue gng

Mobile isn't a gaming device

[stiff narwhal]

dribble as soon as you get the ball

or just dont jump when receiving passes

because why

[toxic kayak]

i don’t jump + i canNT even dribble before it gets stolen off

mobile has this

zone thing

in the place of dribble when u don’t have ball

and when u get ball it switches

[stiff narwhal]

this is just false but yeah mobile bbz is awful

[stiff narwhal]

thats a device issue tbh

[astral ether]

It is tbh, it was mainly made to make pay phones not useful anymore tbh

[toxic kayak]

i use iphone 14 or something bro it’s just how bbz designed mobile UI

[stiff narwhal]

yeah

its a device issue

not really an eclipse problem

[toxic kayak]

but they are not gonna change mobile UI are they?

least u could do as had a small windup to eclipse

[astral ether]

No

Prob not

[toxic kayak]

they already dying they that’s the least of the problems

[astral ether]

Adapt and change

[astral ether]

Their dying bc of jofu

Tbh he just trying to make animalistic better

Istg

[toxic kayak]

Chrollo thinks soccer zero gonna be a hit but it’s not

[astral ether]

It's going to have a horrible timing no matter what

[toxic kayak]

there’s already 2 or 3 other football games that does the same thing

shuould have stuck to bbz

[astral ether]

Azl, blr, I forgot the other

[toxic kayak]

yea i doubt he can make a game better than them and even if he does, soccer games are just dying off

[astral ether]

It's going to die till next season

[toxic kayak]

at first maybe 30-50k plus on update day or maybe more idk but it’s just gonna drip down eventually to like 10k and keep dropping if he did what he did with bbz

[stiff narwhal]

current games are doomed to die anyway

mma legends

[toxic kayak]

bbz was in a good state before the limited slop

[stiff narwhal]

vbz

tz

bbz soon

[astral ether]

He should sell it

Atp

[stiff narwhal]

he basically has

to blackstar

[astral ether]

It still has value

[astral ether]

Blackstar is under his wing

[stiff narwhal]

still a different team

[astral ether]

Yes but still has power over them

[stiff narwhal]

thats kind of the point

current still wants the profit from their golden child

[astral ether]

No, or somehow they'd try to buy stocks or something in blr

[stiff narwhal]

blr isnt their golden child

[astral ether]

Blr is literally his first game that popped off and just sold in greed

[stiff narwhal]

well yeah he got a lot of money at once

from selling it

[astral ether]

Maybe a few thousand thats it

It's today value would probably be just around 3k

So in least you wanna spend that much, you will never prob get it

[stiff narwhal]

youre way off

[astral ether]

Ehh it was just a small estimate

Didn't want to nerdy math in my head

[manic shell]

I'd say maybe a few million

I remember laughs shred a brainrot game got offered like alot too for 10k ccu by big games

[astral ether]

I wouldn't say so

[mild slate]

You suck good sir its very and i mean very easy to deal with jackpot and eclipse steal and i have played against some great jackpot ppl sometimes they get me but majority of the time its very easy to deal with them especially if u looka round for ur team in the opposite direction of them

[wet warren]

Jp doesnt need a nerf or anything but its not very easy to deal with them

If they are good they get the ball almost everytime

[mild slate]

Yea i will give that to yall but ive figured out ways to make sure they dont even without a dribble

now if its more than one jackpot i lose it

Three jackpots dashed at me so my pass didnt go through the steal

[wet warren]

Lol

[mild slate]

Sometimes i hate seeing those gamble bastards cant ever get a pass to someone when its two of them

[naive cave]

Lock is easy to counter, counter it with another lock steal Jp steal or eclipse steal. Jackpot is easy to counter switch up your passing times and eclipse is easy to counter just dribble 🤷

[languid sedge]

Holy this argument is dumb as hell

As a person who 1: plays in servers with 50k point players and 2: averages legend in ranked I can say for sure

Eclipse doesn't need a nerf in terms of dash speed or anything, all I say that needs to be nerfed is the fact it can go upwards

In terms of skill, eclipse isn't high nor low skill

Only styles that take no actual skill are tatlis, unc and joker, as they take no timing to use their skills and get a free steal

Every style realistically has its own counters

Unc gets countered by Eclipse

Joker gets countered by man marking

And tatlis gets countered by psychic and the pass button

This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever read in the history of playing bbz

If I'm putting together a team of the most op unbalanced styles

I'm putting 2 psychics as offense

An unc and a giant on defense

And Luka as playmaker/second offense

Gg ez best team ever

[astral ether]

Wrong

[languid sedge]

How so

[astral ether]

777 exist, jp one of the best styles, Luka lacks in defense, bbu sucks

[languid sedge]

Son

U know nothing about bbz

[astral ether]

Ik a lot

I have out preformed Luka so many times

[languid sedge]

Okay?

2 psychics instant negs any defensive style

[astral ether]

Psychic mid

[languid sedge]

Unc can stop pushes with cane, or use dash to get to ball

And giant is giant

[astral ether]

If that 50% works

[languid sedge]

Luka isn't there for defense at all, just for 1: passing or 2: getting a quick drive down court with vision into a pass

[languid sedge]

It's 75%

[astral ether]

50%

[languid sedge]

Nope

It's 75%

@jade zinc isn't unc cane 75%

[jade zinc]

yeah

[astral ether]

Ig I'm wrong

I recalled it being 50%

But still

[languid sedge]

It's 75%, even according to the update log

[astral ether]

BB unc isn't that strong

[astral ether]

That's just what I checked

[languid sedge]

That 75% can stop ANYTHING

even cutscenes

stops perfection dunk aswell

[astral ether]

So can a skilled jp

[languid sedge]

No

Jp can't stop perf dunk

Jp can't stop cutscenes

[astral ether]

Actually... It can

[languid sedge]

No it cant

U got a video of it doing that?

[astral ether]

Ik styles that would stop it which is guaranteed and better than cell

[languid sedge]

Bc if emp can't, then jackpot cant

[languid sedge]

Nope

[astral ether]

Emp v, wru twin?

[languid sedge]

Emp cant

I've tested

@solar stump remember when we tested emp vs perf dunk?

[astral ether]

Hmm

Still unc isnt even in my top 5

[languid sedge]

Cool, thats your top 5

Unc isn't in mines either

Hes in my top 10

My top 5 isnt based on skill, it's based on how good the styles kit is if used perfectly

[astral ether]

Thats actually same thing with me

[languid sedge]

But thats also why psychic is at my #1

The shot is still the best shot in game, (able to even stop dev styles) as I've seen today

[astral ether]

Star, gold maybe, giant, jp and maybe a few other but used perfectly at least 1 psychic

2 is too much

[languid sedge]

Nah

[astral ether]

Yes

[languid sedge]

2 psychics js makes the defense cry

[astral ether]

Not really

[astral ether]

It doesnt

[languid sedge]

2 guaranteed passes and 2 shots that can't be stopped without pre jumping

[languid sedge]

Yes really

I faced skarp today

He had a version of emp reach

[astral ether]

We talking about everyone used it perfectly, jp would steal before he even got close

[languid sedge]

That tops anything

[languid sedge]

Lies

[astral ether]

No

[languid sedge]

Jackpot users fall for pump fake bait too easily

[astral ether]

Jps be predicting the second you dribble

[languid sedge]

I js pump fake then tp pass and they ALWAYS fall for it

Faced a 40k today and he fell for it

[astral ether]

Not a skilled one

[languid sedge]

He was def skilled

He timed his jp steals perfectly

[astral ether]

Getting pumpfaked isn't obviously a skill player

[languid sedge]

The moment I reached for a pump fake he was there

[languid sedge]

This is a lie

[astral ether]

It isn't

[languid sedge]

My other friend (literally on score lb and friends with shyne) fell for my pumpfakes twice

[astral ether]

Lb means nothing honestly

[languid sedge]

Yet ur js trying to say jackpot tops all

Jackpot vs Vampire in a 1v1, Vampire Wins

Bbz is a counterplay game

[astral ether]

No duh, 1v1 style it's going to

[languid sedge]

Star tops Vamp in a 1v1

[astral ether]

Hell switcher be one of my go to 5th styles which can preform better in a 5v5 but terrible in a 1v1

[languid sedge]

In a 1v1 psychic isn't even that good

[astral ether]

Bbz is a position style game like IRL

[languid sedge]

Yet in any other circumstances, it's top 1-3

[languid sedge]

Nah

[astral ether]

It is

[languid sedge]

It's js "this persons using this style, Ill use the counter"

Thats how I see the game

And how I play

I see unc, I use eclipse

I see jackpot, I use gold or psychic

I see vamp, I use tatlis

I play the game in a way where if I don't like a style, ill use the counter

[solar stump]

Yeah

[languid sedge]

Did it work?

[solar stump]

Hn

Never did

[languid sedge]

But what did

[solar stump]

Bb unc

That dumb steal

[languid sedge]

I wanna try something

U mind helping me?

[solar stump]

Sure

[languid sedge]

Bet, join my ps

[solar stump]

K

[sinful needle]

quit ur lies bro

we all know eclipse needs a nerf

[stiff narwhal]

who is we

[sinful needle]

its not an efficient style never was never will

[stiff narwhal]

speaking french now?

oui oui?

[sinful needle]

it needs a nerf

don't know what too say

[stiff narwhal]

uh sure pal

[sinful needle]

tbh

yup yup

im going to giant suggestions

[stiff narwhal]

its not getting one so uh

[sinful needle]

my main one

to pick up where I started

[stiff narwhal]

go off

all of this going unheard at the end of the day

which is a good thing for once

[languid sedge]

Giant= eclipse victim

[jolly moss]

how

the dash isnt even broken

and the other abilities suck

[astral ether]

The dunk is honestly good and if not the best dunk after perfect dunk

[sinful needle]

it is

the steal move range is way too high and it needs a nerf

like its a joke

Bump

[jolly moss]

no its the only thing that keeps it from being bad

taking it away is like unplugging a life support

[sinful needle]

it needs to have the same range jackpot

50/50 doesn't matter when the range is that high

[vestal dirge]

the only nerf it needs is that it cant go upwards or follow in air movements. the range is has isnt the problem or the speed

[manic shell]

Kings alley dunk is super good

U can't really steal it off of him since the ball teleports if u do it too early

[manic shell]

People go into the air that often?

[vestal dirge]

stars jump and giants snatch are just free steals for eclipse users if theyre close enough same thing with stationary shooting or passing moves

[manic shell]

Oh right

Haven't accounted to that

Imagine a star leap + air leap + eclipses steal

[vestal dirge]

so huge distance freeze time and steal the ball?

sounds broken

[manic shell]

No just imagine all of those happening at once

From 3 diff people

[vestal dirge]

oh its awful

[sinful needle]

wrong again

very wrong

🤦‍♂️

[vestal dirge]

?

wym

[jolly moss]

this guy has to be ragebaiting with the takes he makes in suggestions

[astral ether]

its ehhh

I am pretty sure when he self alleys, it is blockable up to that point if I am not mistaken

[sinful needle]

you are wrong again

[sinful needle]

Okay you don't gotta agree with the eclipse

but the giant suggestion isn't ragebait

@jolly moss voice in my opinion isn't ragebait and I'm not gonna change my opinion to fit some else is liking im just here to let it be known if you cant see eclipse has a high range and takes timing but broken speeds at different angles right before you can even dribble than I'm just sorry

[manic shell]

ig it can be grabbed or emp reached