#Blackstar, stop.
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eclipse has a better steal yeah
jackpots overall kit makes it look like hydrogen bomb compared to eclipse as coughing baby
having access to lucky pass, lucky dash, and lucky stun PLUS lucky bounce reset is crucial
It's the speed factor
It counters all dunks and giant
it only has a better steal, but thats it
While jp doesn't
jackpots kit overall trumps it
Ong
it can counter giant
as for dunks
it probably can with the steal jump
but i havent bothered to test that out
Ye it can but there are more options
wdym more options
And if you counter his post-form the CD doesnt go away
jackpot IS one of the options
You can with gold and emperor
Idk more
I think eclipse too
But it's harder to time bc the steal has barely any windup
that doesnt really matter when you force a turnover anyway
It's almost instant
Yuh
a steal is a steal
post form is mid at best anyway
Yea
Not that mid
its mid
If u use it can be rlly good
It needs to be reworked or atleast buffed
star has a better 2 pointer
Trust im a giant user
Yea
heck playmaker has a better 2 pointer
But that's way easier to block
Post form can be a 3 pointer XD
no it isnt
Yea
Really
alley oop isnt easy to block unless youre paint sitting
Brother
if youre talking post hook, thats easy blocks
That's exactly what I do😭🐧
Yea
Yh but still
Sometimes works
thats detrimental ngl
unless youre in pure basketball
I use ghost and paint sit
Cuz I'm tired of attacking
With this bs teammates who refuse to pass
Sometimes even use phantom too
Lol
True
I basically use giant mostly on defence
Yea
giant is meant for defense anyway
Rn its impossible to get good teammates
they gotta replace post form w contact dunk ngl
It can be used for attack too
giants offense is garbage if your opponents know what theyre doing
too much risk just for a 2 pointer
Well
especially now that everybody and their momma got iframe bypasses
Still its good someway
Frr
This game gonna die soon
well it lived longer than it should
Lemme show u some boring phantom gameplay
surprisingly
But with styles that have 2 different full court
Cuz 99% of the limiteds are absolutely broken
its more like 80% now
bbg is fairly balanced
But uncle sam is buns
i wouldnt say perfection is balanced but it isnt broken either
uncle sam is mid
spider is just outright bad
vampire is also okay
pre nerf vampire was awful though
basically release tatlis
Absolutely
Same with release chrollo
A full court in base kit
chrollo was a problem
Was crazy
you had a dribble that went 2/3rd of the court
and a stun radius on both parts
which was like 1/3rd of the courts width
it was ridiculous
65% for a full court shot is also insanely generous
Yep
Idk whats the chance rn with awk
I rolled chrollo and tatlis but the limited inventory didnt exist
Same with bbg and perfection
And i lost them
its guaranteed
Fuh
Damn
I used to do that too
I wanna use star again but i dont wanna spin off my styles
Ye ik XD
idk why it does that but i hope they keep that in
giant fits their vision for the game
but gold somehow doesnt
pressure hitbox is fine imo
Sometimes opponent isnt dribbling and doesnt work
the issue
Eh?
Yep
they should reduce the fling
Or to an opponent most of the times
Or pass to teammates instead
its meant to do that
its meant to force a pass to their teammate
Ahh
which can also force a mistake
Yep
but its counted as a loose ball so its easier to intercept
Gold needs to be fixed
im pretty sure its supposed to be unblockable
the fix probably gutted it
Ig idk
same thing happened to bullet pass back then
Imma explain you what i mean rq
you could intercept it
Theres you on the corner and 3 pointer line and a gold on half court. You got an opponent infront of you so gold does needle pass but opponent still gets it
It needs i frames all the way
yeah
I got gold on release and it could be full court
i heard its somewhat interceptable
Yep
the thing is
chrollo dont even like gold
which is sad
because its somewhat unique
the only thing unbalanced is the dribble
If they gonna delete someone from the game just delete styles that arent kuroko characters
no reason for it to be stunning 3 people lol
if this was a kuroko game they would
but it isnt
yeah
Cuz i dont find normal in a basketball game having a hatsune miku style
Or david martinez from cyberpunk
Or even uncle sam
Thanks god they didnt add gojo or sukuna
Yet
i wouldnt mind limiteds if they stuck to the theme of basketball
like perfection or bbg
I can agree with bbg, air, king and perfection msybe
like i wouldnt mind hatsune miku if she actually played basketball instead of just
And brand dew luka doncic
straight up magic
Thats what i mean
It has nothing related to basketball
Ans its so buns
Also vampire
Its still annoying after the nerf
I think it might be air or tatlis on my opinion
Yep
especially the awakening
Tatlis is somehow still broken
4 free steals is just why
i mean cyber can do the same too
that one gotta go as well
Its also annoying that psychic in awk has 2 steals with a massive range that end up beeing a dunk
Pls
technically 3
you can use blitz twice
His awk is an unskippable ad
its so stupid
Fuh
They need to add a non-limited styles gamemode
Its boring to play with limiteds or against them
Youre good tho
i play lazily now
And we won l
you dont even gotta be good to win in this game nowadays
Fr
Fym pro servers
When i went first time there was ppl with more than 20k points
When unc sam released
Ik
Fuh
Nowadays their ahh
pro servers then as soon as you join one its barely any different from public servers
Ik
Everyone's just 100 ovr
yeah lol
Its easy to get 100 ovr
They aren't that hard honestly
even then most 100 ovr players lowkey be playing like theyre 80 ovr sometimes
And im lvl 76 ( lvl not ovr)
Playing like 70 ovr
Honestly 80 ovrs are harder
Im i think 72 so not much difference
Still bbz needs to be redone
Ye me too
Facts: star mains are the BEST players.
I accidentally found out that you can steal regular dunk idk about the rest
gum slap does the same
im assuming that iframe bypass moves in general work against dunks
It does but timing is strict
It feels like ir
nah
the cover art is made by the pre-blackstar artist im pretty sure
it doesnt look real
probably
hes broken and fun
but more broken
also
@shy hearth can you guess what v3 is coming
NGL
should I rework lebron
@shy hearth
LeBron is lowk fine as it is
I don’t rlly know
Choose ig
no like my suggestion on lberon
you is not replying
Guardable
Try to guard floater then
I mean the shot itself is blockable
Just not guardable
Just know ur not gonna guard the drive into floater 1 on 1
Regularly without an amazing positioning, you can't
Yea
That’s what I said
And y can js use animalistic
Or go out of the way of defenders
you can still block animalistic but the timing is tighter
Have u seen someone block it
In a real game
Js proves that jofu didn’t get the welcome badge in bbz

pluh
Bro y'all complain when he makes overpowered styles and y'all complain when he makes garbage styles what do you want him to do And if you know how to use eclipse he can be really good
Oh ik eclipse is good, I don't complain, I LOVE balanced no skill issue styles
Well at least Luka ain't overpowered
its lwky underpowered\
luka is basically golds awakening put into a base moveset
I cant even tell if its goo or not
it just feels mid
and boring
@sour sonnet do you agree
It's fs boring, if I have to compare it to a style, it's not directly but similar to pretty much gold, gold base is the same way, so is its awk
ye
Felt rushed imo
The second move feels like it should've had a second varient
mhm
Pls Blackstar I need ts
peak
Most people should understand what you're saying, my friend.
so freakin peak suggestion
Ngl they should of added curry
No, Jokic vs curry: who's the better shooter?
(Without a doubt jokic
Spider and cyber:
🥀
These low levels have no idea of the game
Tbf tho spider and cyber ain't that bad now
Tatlis still a bit of a problem but it's manageable
He is lowkey one of the greatest shooters.
In overall curry is a worse player compared to jokic
@shy geode
@sour sonnet

not a better shooter than curry
hes not just a better shooter, hes the best in the league, HE'S NOT EVEN TRYING
if he was trying, ngl, everyone over 40+ would HAVE to retire due to prob injuries
from Jokic
Jokic could drop maybe 100+
in 1 game
Plus
if luka gets put onto the nuggets, THAT right there be a unstoppable duo
is this man watching basketball from youtube shorts
luka getting into the nuggets would be redundant
they both basically do what the other does on offense and are also both not great defensively
Peaked suggestions black star just stop we already got enough
yup
don does have a good hustle defense
also wheres that kawahi leonard suggestion of yours
Talking about on the offense
nah
his defense is widely known to be just mediocre at best
They have played all star together and are great friends, of course they're a great duo
he is improving though
does not mean that theyre both necessary in a team
they do practically the same thing on offense, thats redundant
He does have good hustles like not the best but he is doing better.
Never said they were necessary, i just said they'd be a great duo
@late canyon did you see my latest suggestion on kawhi?
If anything the best offensive duo in the league
it would be like having 2 emperors on the same team
emperor has good defense at least
jokic can predict passes.
okay
he has iq but he still doesnt hold up well defensively
hes incredibly good on offense and im not gonna take away from that
but defense isnt his strong suit and we shouldnt be acting like it is
no no I see your point then
@late canyon whats in your opinion overall the greatest pick we currently got
greatest player in the nba rn?
Jokic based on what I've seen has everything, ball IQ, playmaking, shooting, only thing he lacks is defense and athleticism, which is fine bc if he worked out to get fit, it'd ruin his whole build
its pretty much jokic but potentially wemby could sweep him
but then again wemby is a cheat code so that probably isnt really surprising
getting training from kg and hakeem is serious work
Theirs a distinct thing that made Jokic MVP in 2021 and helped nuggets get a decent team
Compare to other centers
Maybe top of in the league right now
wemby is like comparing a small comparison of micheal
Top of can mean many things, like best team or literally one of the top best team in the league as in maybe top 5
okc fills many of those spots rn
It honestly really depends, primarily depends if teams like LA preforms well
But I kinda doubt it bc of LeBron
lakers has been getting sweeped lately
He's in his mid 40s, sells for his own gain and so much more
lebron is slowly going to retire
LeBron is egotistical
what does this even mean
He only cares about his stats
im neutral on bron but he is one of the best players in the league for a reason either way
thats true.
he was doing good.
that wemby is not going to be beating micheal any time soon
brother
nobody has
that doesnt prove anything
You didnt need to mention it
need to mention what
the discussion was greatest player in the nba right now
idk why mj is brought up all of the sudden
He is NOT one of the best in the league right now, if anything, he's the reason why Lakers been preforming badly
And people who are 40 and was in their prime a decade ago are preforming better than LeBron
name one
I can't name 1 top of my head
ok
Curry kinda better than him
Ngl curry is better but I can't say that I didn't c jokic play
Ngl but a curry limited is way better than a jokic limited
Curry is like sniper at shooting And he got handles
So is Jokic, have you not seen the shot clock timer video?
He does things without trying, you think curry trys at all?
Overall, Jokic is 10x better than curry
Nope
Man you need to see it
Nah Stephen Curry shoots from anywhere that be nothing but net
He's Ace/sniper the shooting and dribbling
Jokic good for all around play
Guess what, Jokic is sniper and giant
Erase that
Stephen Curry shot over giant people before so that's no difference for him
Play maker, sniper and height of giant
He just could do a floater
So could Jokic 💀💀
Bro Stephen Curry is a better shooter
He shoots for long distance It be nothing but net
All time, currently, he's 40 and more injury prone
He caused it
He'll end up becoming the next LeBron, 40, kids in big leagues, stats hungry
Who
Steph
Nah
Plus like I said, Luka isn't even trying and he's on par with steph
Stephen Curry got handles nobody can graud him
Stephen Curry doesn't either
And Jokic can't do the same?
No like, Jokic just wants to go home trying
Steph Curry really tried he will make nothing but buckets which he had tried before look where that got Luka and ja
Traumatized never trash talking Stephen Curry
You got this From a tiktok
Stephen Curry literary shot over a person that's taller than
Yeah bc I'm not going to pull out no edit
Ain't bro did a hook shot with one hand
Jokic is like 7 feet even and shoots over wembanyama
Jokic is 611 what you talking about
Basically 7 feet
Basically 7 feet
Plus I think Jokic shot over KD before, idk
1 inch different still matters
Steph Curry can't be guard Even his brother can't do it
Jokic on a nuggets right
His brother is the reason why Steph is good, the younglings learn from older siblings
The warriors won more times than the nuggets
What you mean Stephen Curry is older
Well I be forgetting
I really don't keep up with him
I don't really keep up with pgs
Oh
All ik, for my dream team, I want prime curry, prime Shaq, Jokic, Dennis Rodman and just fill in like MJ or Kobe
With kd
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Jokic isn't known for shooting but he is a insane shooter somehow
Lets just say both of them are league's best players for their position and call it quits
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Ok
Bc both are just unstoppable
bug
What
i didnt even type that i swear
This guy needs nerf
Will chrollo come back?
Hope not money hungry stumble bum
bump
He Will comeback after he finishes the SZ
Maybes
dm me
now they wont even update 😂 no wonder tennis zero was a failure
announcement spam
they really want people to play soccer zero
they turning bbz into a sz billboard
i tried it out and honestly it was alright
plays exactly like blr
but slightly worse
maybe its just cause i saw people abusing techs already like this guy was zooming across the map by sliding and jumping
shoulda clipped it genuinely was baffling to see
But has bbz passing mechanic
honestly felt weird to play
like the players were moving fast but zero goals or any kind of playmaking was happening
Why does it have 3 dribble like bbz?
i mean
i wouldnt expect playmaking in a game loosely inspired by an anime that consists of ball hogs
its a current game
Oh ok
true
Sz is basically a combination of blr and bbz gameplay mechanic
Have you guys played “cool blue lock game”?
I can already feel it will be dead
chrollo said hes probably going to make another basketball game
so ts might be done for
Ye prob sell it to black star
Bro Chrollo just going to sell current
chrollo should just retire from making games atp
I mean, most definitely, he's a millionaire or smthn around that before he even started making games
🤔
vbl?
wasnt thiat chrollos game?
Ye
dam bru
If compare vbl to bbz
Vbl doing much better
We need sum of the dev to come to bbz
Black star just adding limiteds
And adding it again
Tru bru true
Atp we need the force pass mechanic💔
When the game is like "AY IDIOT PASS THE BALL NOW OR I MAKE U"
What does chrollo even.. do?
Idk, but bro has all these super cars from blue rock? He would need a billion Robux or something to be that rich
We should get that kind of a new call type
quick chat in bbz cuz we got our chat removed
honestly thats kind of a good idea
lets design it dm me
@junior tangle dm meee
bump
If prediction is your power, what are you without it?
To that I say, myself, without the prediction
But honestly the new styles aren't as fun
So I wouldn't use them
I like styles that let u do stuff freely
Games not even basketball anymore
And hasnt been for a while
When was the last basketball related style?
When did style descriptions stop being actually useful playstyle hints and become low effort quotes?
When perfection came out
Bump
limiteds are fun to get and use. i disagree imo
Alright for my next prediction
I lowkenuinely wanna summon mahoraga and slime the whole court
But I also want to feel strong
So just add saitama aswell on that
WE all want styles actually ABOUT basketball again
limited isnt the problem
him not balancing the game is the problem
bumppp
this game was never balanced and wont ever be
Literally just look at jackpot and its zone, its been there for ages without being touched
i don't even know why they're pretending to care about balancing by nerfing tatlis and chrollo now
jackpot is the most balanced style? the zone does need nerfs tho
The style itself is quite skilled
But the zone is like
😭
Not really skill
How so
why is it always the level 5s
?
The game genuinely sucks. Why are there more limited styles in than the game than every other style.
Every update now is just limited styles without proper fixes or balances because they want to keep the concept of “you don’t need to understand the game to play, you can press a button and win.” Genuinely if you don’t have limited styles the game becomes almost unplayable.
Why does almost every limited have constant stun moves? Judgeman has 2 stuns in base, why? Thats just not needed nor necessary. In Awk you might as well expect him to be able to get the ball 3 times no matter where you are on the court. Holy bro
just wait till your opponents have no cd on some dribble abilities and remember last time they used zone
guaranteed steal with 0 counterplay
unless opps pass during first dribble or second
but you can just adapt and its no brainer ability
switcher's cursed dash and clutch's pressure defense are the only skill based steals
if you play against good team you have to predict passes on switcher and also position yourself properly
So have patience and steal when the window is right
Way better than the other steal move in comparison
If you want styles with absolutely no counter play
Tats and Unc for example
jp steal more safe than tatlis they both have own advantages and disadvantages
but jp steal is better
counters some abilities as well
and has half court dash follow up
JP has a wind up and can be ankle broken or miss unless your timing is just right which imo takes a good amount of skill (especially compared to the other styles with steal moves)
While switcher needs good placement the “steal” move is a 50/50 chance
But it also covers half the court
im saying about follow up
you steal sure but you dont guarantee a shot
with jp you pretty much likely to score after steal
unless u get pass follow up but its also good
Cause your rewarded for getting said steal
But it’s not like your guaranteed a dash more and such if the steal happens
its still easier to use than tatlis
I have spent more time figuring out JP than I ever did with tats
Tats is just
Be near the ball handler
Use move
Steal easy
which is not always happens unless you play agains tbad players
any player against tatlis with either keep distance or use dribble
abilities
Only counter play btw is to pass but it’s not possible if they do it up close
Not all
which is more versatility
Also tats can also steal through I frames
dribble
Or hell any move that give you movement I frames
But don’t stun
Tats can steal through it
Am talking from personal experience against tats players btw
They can steal through anything
i dont think theres any movement with iframes?
you mistake them for dribble frames
it goes thru dribble frames while jp goes thru iframes
Tell me a move with I frames rq
Let me see if am mixing up smt
anything that you can try to steal but cant steal
but doesnt punish you with ankle break
No no I said give an example
like giants dunk
or for example you can steal psychic but since its dribble frames you cant steal it with normal steal or jp
when it does pass
Got it
teleport pass thingy
but with tatlis you can
or why ppl do fake then pass cuz it gives iframes
im not talking about rating tho its boring crap no one plays it
I feel like the conversation went in a very different direction
tatlis only locks you up from being close to tatlis while jp locks you up from using certain styles + faking and basically removes one dribble from your total dribbles
While JP can steal through I frame moves it still requires timing for you to do so
cuz if you use your last dribble you are doomed
its not timing
For JP the best counter is to mix up your dribble pattern
its just patience
no best counter is to pop up zone with additional dribble on the last dribble of yours
or use an ability
but if you dont have both ggs
If you pop zone after your last dribble you don’t gain another dribble so I assume you mean before the last dribble
you know what i meant
The real question would be why are you using up all your dribbles in the presence of a JP?
thats exactly the problem with that style lol
Your just making your self food for them at that point
But your totally fine with tats or unc and such
Which have even worse lock up ability than JP
Imo
tatlis i barely have any problem easy to counter with passses
and i didnt talk about unc at all
Just brought it up since he technically has a steal move
Didn’t tell me what’s the plan if the tats does it up close btw
unc steal inconsistent when theres 2 opps near each other its good but ppl jsut dont know how to play around it still stupid though
fake + pass?
Btw unlike tats where you can pass and save yourself unc stops the ball mid air which is stupid
Fake don’t save you from tats
I can personally confirm that
tatlis doesnt bypass iframes
same way you cant steal with tatlis when opp gets the ball
cuz when you recieve the ball you get like 1 sec of iframes
if you simply spam fake + pass in a normal game its impossible to steal with tatlis
but with jp its the opposite ez to steal
symbiote works same way as jp
I am yet to see a tats be stopped by a fake btw so I can’t exactly believe you
but even easier to use than jp
Yeah we know
Pretty sure this thread was made to ask for no more limited styles
Or atleast more balanced styles
You got a point there
they somehow manage to release more unfair crap with every update
most unbalanced zone judgement alongside luka doncic zone
Here I was hoping for something’s to look better with the great rebalance
Yeah
they give 0 sht
When was the last decent style bbz made?
Cause balance went down hill after Chrollo and tats came out
Fair
Never seen it action but I was under the impression it was like JP steal
Interesting
and mid range passes or long passes but close passes inconsistent
Although I don’t like the zone combo with the shot move
Pretty sure it’s the same as sniper
that can be stopped with some abilities as well
Nope
Only pref and I think air can stop it
if you stand under dealer at the back of him you can also steal with symbiote
All other styles can’t reach the shot
Oh wait I think emp might be able to reach it but am not sure
Yeah what’s with that
I noticed that a lot
idk its been a long time it has crappy scripts
where it only works if theres no one around you
so it registers only on person with the ball
I remember back when emp was so dominant for a while
if someone else stands near you it thinks that they also have the ball
and locks on them as well
Damn
Although
There is a bug with emp reach
You can steal points from certain moves
I haven’t seen it happen with some other styles yet although am still testing
But I have found it only works with giant atp
what do u mean steal points?
Like
The points will be registered as the emp points instead of the giant for example
So if the Giant uses their ult move
And emp reaches
When the ball dunks
It will reach
And the point gets registered as the emp
Never seen anyone use it yet
But I tend to find things like this when am testing random ideas with friends
no bump
Nah don't stop my lover devs more limited and return psychic please
psychic wont come back in a while if it does
Imo limiteds killed the game
Its now (simulator get better style and press 2 buttons every 40 seconds)
Jp food, tatlis food, no matter what I will hate both styles
why hate on jp its a skill based style
jackpot needs a nerf it steals in between up close the moment you pass
so u have to pass far away
so idiotic
and don't even get me started on eclipse
its like jackpot but 5x worse
hmmm to make it worse they readded all the styles through blackmarket, they even buffed money earning so that ppl can easily get styles
the moment you get ball when passed you have idiots who say dribble but eclipse moment is so fast they get it
dont jump and dribble asap thats the only counter
there is no way
ur trolling
and for jp dont pumpfake and pass do a normal pass then jp cant steal
in pro servers u have to literally
u guys jump every now and then even during passes thats when eclipse cooks with steal
they can smack ball if you don't pump pass
another way to avoid jp steal is to do a 2 dribble instead of 3
im fine with jackpot even though its annoying
hmm i remember stealing a ball mid dunk from someone using eclipse
Take it back
😭
well 90% of times its a failed steal if they just dont jump and dribble
chrollo never made that style its jofu
for me gold is annoying
its dribble is instant and it stuns, pressure works like a charm as a defence for low ping players
and awak can do 11 points if u get the ball

just play back
like there is no way
u just said
gold is a problem
ur ragebaiting
100%
and not to mention
that's bait than
like I said
gold takes skill
eclipse doesn't
if u pumpfake and manage to get a gold player to jump
they do an instant pressure
and ball gone
U know u can chase after the ball right
okay
let's go over
psychic teleport move
unc wheelchair move
honored one dash move
star sky leap move
star dash move
giant move
fetch move
switcher dash move
pressure is random ball can fall straight into enemy hands
it doesn't happen all the time
that's a 30% chance
and it'd just go to our court if its 1v1
if a teammate passes you in range of an eclipse there is no counter
what do you not get
I did that before
he still got it
and don't even say
pump pass
I did it without it as well
I play pro servers
24/7
Like I deal with eclipse spammers
on a daily
same with unc
same with joker
giant and star
king and air
like
trust me
unc is
just cuz its steal has a chance doesnt mean it gets a pass
joker is nightmare too cuz i still remember that one game where that guy got all his wildcards
wait relay aint even broken
😭
he was just lucky
joker is fine
its not
No it's useless
oh
what skill is there if a player is just running to a 3 pointer line and just waiting for wildcard to tp the ball over to him
50% chance even that is bad
cause the 50/50 is actually 50/50 you don't think it is cause you don't count the times wildcard actually fails
with unc for some odd reason he has a cane effect and its not 50/50 all the time
id still call it no skill even if its a 30% chance
I was in a server where I got wildcard 6 times out of 6 times
but at the same time I have failed a lot to
all the person does is walk to the 3 pointer line
than it's a skill issue or you just hating
what skill issue 😭
ofc i'd hate a no skill move
than a tm can just stay back even if the wildcard is successful
joker is even complained about
okay
which is worse
joker or eclipse?
sure but then there's the dash stun
3 jokers or 3 eclipse
both are
but pick one
jokers have a good chance too
eclipse cuz dont have dribble moves
tatlis is a guaranteed steal and eclipse is worse
don't matter
the steal move is busted and broken and abused
joker has steal too 😭
the dunk move stuns you and it's very hard to block even though it counterable it takes at least two more people to block it