#Buff Luffy/Rubberman

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cursive orchid
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I am using it in 3s

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I've been carrying

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cursive orchid
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jump while using rubberman

solar lance
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cursive rivet
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ok

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my internet is

tidal trout
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bro plz

void ice
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The Luffy style is actual dogcrap compared to other styled. Half the stuff dont even work well to be useable and they have such long cooldowns.

  1. If you try to use block at maximum range they can just run up to you and steal the ball for free 100% of the time no matter what the timing, or what they used to shoot and theres nothing you can do about it.

  2. The steal move 99/100 times wont even steal the ball from the opponent, it will just activate, tickle the opponent and then go on a minute long cooldown. On the chance that it does actually work it flies in the direction they are already furthest in so they just regain possession immediately.

  3. On the offensive side its barely functional because the undeterminable shot is so determinable that the frame you press the button, or at any moment after they can just jump inside your body to instantly block the shot before it even comes out.

  4. Not to mention when you go into mode you lose everything except the trash block in exchange for 1 horrendous move that goes on a 110 second cooldown for absolutely no reason, and a 2 point cutscene.

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even the rares and epics like fetch are better

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the entire style need a rework

placid saddle
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they should remove the button press mini game thing from liberation dribble cuz people just rememberize the 3 dribbles and steal it

cursive orchid
void ice
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the style is buns. its weak as hell and can sell your games when you use half the moveset cuz its so trash

cursive orchid
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its amazing in 2s

void ice
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but rubberman overall is just bad compared to other styles

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that arent even as rare

cursive orchid
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you talking about how it can be stolen if you dont jump, huh?

void ice
cursive orchid
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not exactly

void ice
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the style is detrimental to its own moveset

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it is exactly as it is

void ice
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you pull off a block it gets ripped immediately if the team has brains

cursive orchid
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you cant rip it like I showed in the clip

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you cant raw steal it in the clip

void ice
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  1. thats a bug
  2. ive already tried doing stuff like that but I get the "move cannot be used at this moment" text
void ice
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what needs to happen is the animation is faster so it doesnt need to jump to not get ripped, and the steal needs to be more useful

cursive orchid
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no matter what you're going to need to jump

void ice
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not if they just fix and buff the style to where it works when you press the button and not need niche glitches to make it work

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and the slap stopped the dunk, im fine with that, but on the 99 other times you try to use it nothing happens and it goes on cooldown or they get it back.

cursive orchid
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its not the only style that can do it

void ice
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its not good, its objectively bad with 1 decent block move if you use the glitch

cursive orchid
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it not exactly bad, I'd only say rework the offense and gear switch

void ice
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everything needs a rehaul to be stronger

cursive orchid
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thats why they fixed it

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and bc of giant goaltending

void ice
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slap needs to be quicker and have an followup or something to capitalize off the steal. Block needs to be faster or have a followup again, the shooting move needs the hitbox and timing to be fixed cuz you can just block it at literally any moment by jumping near the player even though the animation hasnt even started

void ice
cursive orchid
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that shooting part isnt

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You cant just jump any time

void ice
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you can

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if you hit the shooting move all they have to do is jump and it blocks it immediately while the animation still plays. No matter which point its in

cursive orchid
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you cant

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it releases the ball and has a follow up, yes

void ice
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ive literally hit the move and frame one they jumped before anything happened and i hear the basketball get smacked and they already moving with the ball meanwhile im punching air

cursive orchid
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but under no means can be blocked by just jumping

void ice
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it can and does

cursive orchid
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show me

void ice
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the hitbox should be at the end of the fist where its being shot from, not the body, and even if the hitbox is the body why is it getting blocked immediately before the ball is even shot

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i dont have to show you, go into a game and use the shot after trying to fake a player

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guaranteed they jump super early and you get blocked before the animation starts and you stuck while they dribbling down the court

cursive orchid
void ice
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as soon as you hit that move the hitbox is already active for players to block

cursive orchid
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You talking about when it leaves my left hand?

cursive orchid
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that's logic

void ice
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thats not logic thats trash

cursive orchid
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respectfully, are you stupid?

void ice
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that means for like that entire animation its blockable

cursive orchid
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what does every shooting move have in common, once it leave your hands its blockable

void ice
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no, once its shot towards the hoop its blockable

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thats the difference

cursive orchid
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psychic dont follow that logic

void ice
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undeterminable shot is supposed to move the ball away from you towards a weird area and then shoot the ball

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and even if it is supposed to work like that it makes it one of the easiest shots in the game to block because now they just have to look at the animation start and just jump at any point afterward because its so slow and its a free block

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theres no point to using the shot then

cursive orchid
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luffy is 10x better in defense anyways

void ice
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not 10x better its like 1.2x better

cursive orchid
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no 10x

void ice
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you got a decent block and the slap is useless, observation is alright, and the shot is free blocks unless you just open at the halfcourt

cursive orchid
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the offense sucks

void ice
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the entire style sucks, just a handful of "alright" moves

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the mode and zone are horrendous too

cursive orchid
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and again slap isnt entirely useless because I found times I have used it to delay plays and force a pass/intercept

void ice
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lose all your moves in exchange for a 110 cooldown and cutscene move, but you keep the block that gets your ripped

cursive orchid
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or even gain procession

void ice
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the gaining possession is a rarity and even if they were going to pass it would probably have been better to just use regular steal to get possession

void ice
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it always knocks the ball closer to them than what you need. You would need to forcefully put yourself behind them, angle towards a teamate and pray for the slap to land god forbid they do literally anything in that one second

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the niche examples of it doing well dont change how bad the style is

cursive orchid
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again you dont know how to use luffy right

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only thing it needs is a rework on offense

void ice
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it needs a total rework

cursive orchid
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and rework gear switch

cursive orchid
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Ive been playing as long as you have

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and never think it needed a rework

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besides from offense

void ice
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steal only works if they do literally nothing for 1 full second or in that one case do a dunk, the block is 100% steals without that bug, observation is alright as is, and the shot is useless unless you are left open full court.

cursive orchid
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its not even a steal

void ice
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it is a steal

cursive orchid
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so quit calling it a steal

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it isnt

void ice
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you poke it from the opponent

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thats what the hell a steal is

cursive orchid
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thats not a steal

void ice
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the only thing is the style does it and cant capitalize off a steal

cursive orchid
void ice
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dislodging

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intercepting

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the only difference is you cant result in a turnover because you stuck in steal animation and it goes opposite from you and always closer to the opponent unless you angle it right

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i get you trying to say the style got some alright moves, but overall its bad and needs a rehaul so its useable

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even CYBER, the style that was actually pretty good other than the cannon got a rehaul for whatever reason

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awakening was super good, base was good if you got the good cybernetics

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rubber is just overall a detriment to the team rather than just picking other styles that do it better

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hell even perfection, one of the best styles in the game got an extra move added

cursive orchid
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gum slap CANT intercept, that be gum block

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its nothing basketball related

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its just to knock the ball loose

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to cause a foul ball

void ice
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it doesnt matter what point you arguing whether its a steal or not, interception or not, it doesnt change how bad the style is. Look at the whole picture

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i can just play symbiote and its a better rubber

cursive orchid
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symbiote it NOT equivalent to rubber

void ice
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jackpot is a better rubber in a way

cursive orchid
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no duh

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jp is really good

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everyone knows that

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its the best mythic in the game'

void ice
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yea its really good, and rubberman isnt remotely good

cursive orchid
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the only thing you can really compare rubberman to is silver and giant

void ice
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fetch is really good when you playing defensive abilities that knock the ball away or doing the shoo across court tech

cursive orchid
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the other 2 centers

void ice
cursive orchid
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you cant

void ice
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defensively it gets beat by every defensive style

cursive orchid
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its more utilized to defense

void ice
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offensively its not even comparable

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need a reliable block and offensive beast? giant, silver, jackpot, ace, lock, etc

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need some offense? literally any other style

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need some of both? perfection, symbiote, vampire

cursive orchid
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ik you need both, best pick be star

void ice
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then you got rubberman that has all the options but they are so poor you cant use them

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other than in niche situations that rarely happen

cursive orchid
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I use it multiple time when waiting for a 3s game and it still does decent

void ice
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im not wasting a 55 second cooldown on a 2 point dunk. why do i need a bug for the block to be useable?

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why can the shot be blocked before the shot is shot? I might as well just shoot a moving jumper

cursive orchid
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you know, you talking about bugs, but I bet you 90% of the techs ingame arent intentional

void ice
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im wasting time arguing with you when the style is objectively not good

cursive orchid
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like dribbling in place I can bet you in a bug

void ice
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dribbling in place isnt a bug, you do between the legs

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its not even decent

cursive orchid
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it is

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and no

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dribbling in place with shammgod to suddenly go past a defender I can tell you probably isnt intentional

void ice
void ice
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this about rubberman and how it fits into the basketball game as a whole, and as it stands its buns

cursive orchid
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I was talking about bbg and bugs

void ice
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regardless of the bugs other style have and abuse they are still good and work without them. Rubberman with and without bugs is still dookie, case and point

cursive orchid
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bbg isnt good at all without teching it

void ice
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ive done work with it without bugs or tech

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free dunk on defensive monsters that can block any shot, if you aim shamgod right you can get past defenders, and the mode god good point conversion

cursive orchid
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the dunk is blockable btw

void ice
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even if it is nobody is blocking it because they would rather take the 2 than leave him open for 3

cursive orchid
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if I am playing center, I would be perfectly able to block and snatch at any given moment

void ice
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and still this is about rubberman being dookie

cursive orchid
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you HAVE to tech it

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95% of styles you HAVE to tech

void ice
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its only manual

void ice
cursive orchid
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you do

void ice
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theres only a handful that needs the tech, and the rest is optional if you want to make them even better

cursive orchid
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such as?

void ice
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fetch, gold steal combo

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giant jump into block combo

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cyber dash pass combo

cursive orchid
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I said techs, not combos

void ice
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it is tech

cursive orchid
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such tech be switcher switch with any shooting move

void ice
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giant does it by itself, cyber does it by itself

cursive orchid
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be specific

void ice
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and tech is a skill that you do

cursive orchid
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you listed 0 tech

void ice
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it is tech

cursive orchid
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trust me

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its not

void ice
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its not things you just do normally

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you cant cyber dash with the ball in your hands

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you cant giant jump after a jump normally

cursive orchid
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want a tech, jp ability saving is a tech

void ice
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the gold steal into the fetch dash makes for a free conversion. its technical in the way you execute it to achieve an outcome

cursive orchid
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cc ability saving is a tech

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gold doesnt have a steal

void ice
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it does

cursive orchid
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it doesnt

void ice
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the dash move is a steal that pokes the ball away

cursive orchid
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it knock the ball loose

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its not

void ice
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brother thats called a steal

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its literally in the definition YOU LISTED

cursive orchid
void ice
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you know what forcing the opponent to lose possession means?

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taking the ball out of their hands and hopefully that turns into it being in your hands

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aka A STEAL

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thats not even the point

cursive orchid
void ice
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those styles are great without the tech, and are taken to new heights with it if you choose to do them

cursive orchid
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its considered a pressure defense

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its literally clutches pressure d

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you wanna call that a steal?

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no

void ice
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if it knocks the ball lose yes

cursive orchid
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bc its not a physical steal

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a steal is when you gain procession'

void ice
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im going to sleep gang you losing the plot

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every other style is amazing with what they can do

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rubberman is lackluster and detrimental

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its been proven and documented

cursive orchid
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rubberman is mid but ok

cursive orchid
void ice
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its not ok

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it has

cursive orchid
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it isnt

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keep yappin

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bc you telling someone who seen full protential of every style this

void ice
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people have tested it for a year, new styles have come out that just do rubberman but way better

cursive orchid
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you yapping about A MOVE THAT SUPPOSED TO KNOCK BALL LOSE a steal

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you dont know basketball

void ice
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ive seen the full potential of all the styles too, but the potential of rubberman is hot dogwater

cursive orchid
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nor know how to play the game obviously

void ice
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ive played the game and hit max rank

cursive orchid
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whats max rank then, huh?

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you talking about legend

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bc its not hard

void ice
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yes

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it is hard when you playing against the top of the try hards

cursive orchid
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its not

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just use rubberman and senses

void ice
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prime gold with 100% steal rate, fetch combo, shooting in midair tech

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comms in the discord

cursive orchid
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and know how to not be predictable

void ice
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those the people that be playing in those ranks

cursive orchid
void ice
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that is tech

cursive orchid
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that be me saying silver and fetch a tech

void ice
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they figured out a good technical feat that is repeatable and strong

cursive orchid
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thats not a tech

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thats just good chemistry

void ice
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the only combos that arent tech are just regular combos in fighting game that dont lead to anything special

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Akuma vortex in street fighter 4 is tech

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its a combo, but it leads into so many opportunities because of how it ends leading to some of the strongest mixups in the game

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TECH

cursive orchid
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Thats not a tech

void ice
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it is

cursive orchid
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A tech would be jump abilities

void ice
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thats literally what they call it

cursive orchid
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Thats a tech

void ice
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brother you thinking in roblox terms and not globally

cursive orchid
void ice
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roblox mfs dont know half the sh they talking about, they cant even spell stuff correctly

cursive orchid
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In game and irl are separate

void ice
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its not

void ice
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irl and in game is the same

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I do know because im in both

cursive orchid
void ice
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leaping on the gym roof isnt tech thats just doing something amazing

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the tech is how you did it

void ice
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the tech is the penultimate step before the jump letting you jump higher

cursive orchid
void ice
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thats just using the ability

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the tech is star leaping into the air and shooting midair

cursive orchid
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From a standing point and upon using it makes you go higher than a average human

void ice
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or that would be a bug

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shooting ball cross court into star jump is tech

cursive orchid
void ice
cursive orchid
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At least 90% of them are

cursive orchid
void ice
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tech doesnt mean bug

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you missing everything I just explained

cursive orchid
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Shammgod got a few techs it's self

void ice
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tech is what you do to achieve the outcome. and typically that thing that you do is something special that is out of the box

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jumping high isnt out of the box, but what caused you to jump high is, aka the technique of penultimate step

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which is what tech is short for

cursive orchid
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You comparing a Lego game to irl

void ice
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while tech can include bugs that dont mean tech is bugs

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cuz its no different than what the definition of tech is

cursive orchid
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I am almost convinced you are either stupid respectfully or just ed

void ice
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and still it has nothing to do with how bad rubber is

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it has tech but its still overall bad

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theres no defending that its objectively bad

cursive orchid
void ice
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i stated that before i even started arguing

cursive orchid
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Jump tech or using abilities in the air for the longest time was called a tech

void ice
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because it is

cursive orchid
void ice
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bug can be tech but technique itself isnt just bugs

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no you just have terrible reading comprehension

cursive orchid
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It was just a bug but people called it a tech

cursive orchid
void ice
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because its the same

cursive orchid
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It's not

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You using irl logic to fantasy logic

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As I used the 1 with star

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Better example I should have made was phantom

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Or psychic teleport pass

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List can go on and on

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And you would say it's somehow related to irl

void ice
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i just told you what tech is irl, what tech is in game and how its the same concept. If you want to be a brick wall and argue against everything until you find yourself in the right you got it gang

void ice
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ill go with what you said, rubber is mid, congratulations the rest of the styles are still better

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still needs to be reworked

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im sleeping i got work at 6

placid saddle
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its based off a insane character but its ez to be countered/beat

cursive orchid
floral estuary
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Man, finally

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Navy bootcamp sucked

spark mortar
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placid saddle
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Bump

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spark mortar
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floral estuary
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2 months of torture

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Missed both my parents’ birthdays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, new years

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Shi was whack man

remote jasper
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ive seen the jump gum block tech be used a million times, making it unstealable

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the shot is similar to ordinary shot with a VERY short block window

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the awk takes skill and ive only seen the QTE move be stolen when they mess it up, which is a skill issue

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its a good allrounde4 style that takes some skill, it does NOT need buffs

limber fiber
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I hope they patch this or make it bannable cuz honestly it's not supposed to be like similar to tendril snatch

floral estuary
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At least since the last time I played. Idk if they patched it cause I’ve been away

placid saddle
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bump

limber fiber
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it has iframes

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i dont want it to be like tendril snatch

placid saddle
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Bump

remote jasper
spark mortar
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It’s what makes the defense move not a free steal

limber fiber
spark mortar
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Either they give it I-frames or just keep the jump tech

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But that’s just my opinion

limber fiber
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not every steal needs iframes

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or block

spark mortar
limber fiber
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rubberman already is a very good defensive style

limber fiber
spark mortar
limber fiber
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i would say keep the instant pass tech tho

spark mortar
limber fiber
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so u know when

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someone gum blocks

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and then they pass it instantly

spark mortar
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ye?

limber fiber
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to a teammate

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id say keep that one but not the jump tech

spark mortar
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honestly they could keep that and it would be fine

limber fiber
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so that its atleast blockable

spark mortar
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u got a good point there

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I usually camp at my team’s basket when I play rubberman lmao

limber fiber
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goaltending 💔

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and then buff goaltending 💔

spark mortar
limber fiber
spark mortar
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buff goaltending fr

limber fiber
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buff interactive gameplay

spark mortar
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+100 score for every goaltend

limber fiber
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WORK for that goaltending

spark mortar
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😭

limber fiber
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if they made some interesting shi man

spark mortar
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We need more chemical reactions bro 😭 🙏

limber fiber
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like a shot move vs gum block and some qte pops up

spark mortar
limber fiber
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i want more suggestions

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of

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chem reactions

spark mortar
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Fr

limber fiber
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but all of them are scoring

spark mortar
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And they should make a tutorial

limber fiber
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which makes it bland

spark mortar
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About

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HOW

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TO

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PASS

spark mortar
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Bro half of my teammates ball hog and end up giving the ball 😭

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That’s why I use Chrollo thumbs_up

limber fiber
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like for limiteds it should be slightly weaker (the chem reactions)

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like it could be a cool ball handle with maybe a slight speed buff ig

spark mortar
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It’s canon

limber fiber
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like some i dont know

spark mortar
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Sorta?

limber fiber
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i cant think of one that is canon

spark mortar
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Me neither 😔

limber fiber
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since this game is a multiverse anime type shi

spark mortar
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If they added more nba styles

limber fiber
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like idk giant and psychic

limber fiber
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teleport pass into snatch block

spark mortar
limber fiber
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💀

spark mortar
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LAST THING PSYCHIC NEEDS IS A CHEM

limber fiber
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ok what about

spark mortar
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ITS ALREADY BROKEN ENOUGH

limber fiber
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a reasonable one i heard was ghost and phantom

limber fiber
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like some

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ghost in awakening

spark mortar
limber fiber
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phantom pass into phantom twin but the twin is THE phantom player

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smth like that

spark mortar
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That’s kinda confusing 😅

limber fiber
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alright do u know how the phantom twin move works

spark mortar
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I don’t use ghost

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😅

limber fiber
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oh

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have u seen the move tho

spark mortar
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No

limber fiber
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so essentially

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so bullet pass u def seen tho right?

spark mortar
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Yes

limber fiber
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so phantom bullet passes to the ghost in awakening

spark mortar
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mhm

limber fiber
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the phantom twin move makes a ghost and u pass to that ghost and he scores it

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we could replace the ghost with the phantom and make it into a cutscene

spark mortar
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Wait that’s sick

limber fiber
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yea

limber fiber
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or the chrollo and tatlis one

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is kind of reasonable

spark mortar
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I haven’t heard of that one either

limber fiber
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so

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theres 2 variations

limber fiber
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one a different person thought of and one i thought of

spark mortar
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Mb I thought u meant it had 2 variants

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Like

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2 diff cutscenes

limber fiber
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so the one is that chrollo uses a force pass from a tatlis in awakening and it creates a cutscene

limber fiber
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i dont wanna say "pass!"

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💔

spark mortar
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No I meant like

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They have to use the move to trigger it 😭

limber fiber
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yea

spark mortar
limber fiber
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it wont buff anything it just creates that cutscene

limber fiber
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then my variation was

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when the tatlis uses the onball omni stun move (the one that stuns every player) chrollo gets a qte to steal the ball

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with their move

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the force pass

spark mortar
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ooh

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Always Chrollo with the Pass! 💀 😭

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I’m cringing why did I say it like that 😭

limber fiber
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so like if nothing is done then the tatlis goes on with their cutscene

limber fiber
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if the qte is failed then it shows that the chrollo user tried but failed

spark mortar
limber fiber
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and if done successfully it pulls the ball to the chrollo user with their "dark energy" and leaves the tatlis user shocked

spark mortar
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So it’s like sabotaging your own teammate?

limber fiber
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well kind of

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i mean like

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would be a funny addition

spark mortar
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Oh my gosh 😂 I like your variation better hands down

spark mortar
limber fiber
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theres a suggestion for those chems

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but its kinda dead

spark mortar
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oh?

limber fiber
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and someone doesnt like it cuz its not really canon

limber fiber
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this game isnt canon but wtv

spark mortar
limber fiber
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og psychic when waiting

spark mortar
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Oop sorry man I gtg now

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It was fun listening to your ideas

limber fiber
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bye

spark mortar
limber fiber
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u2

floral estuary
placid saddle
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bump

spark mortar
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B

polar moth
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Bump

formal wraith
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Get good

floral estuary
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lol

placid saddle
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wow bru luffy never coming back just like perfection

floral estuary
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Real

floral estuary
civic hearth
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Rubber man is already a really good style I don’t think it needs a buff at all tbh

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Checkpoint

warm birch
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But its not good

floral estuary
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Just wanna say, this ain’t even a crazy buff lol

placid saddle
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bump

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Bumpity

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Bump

placid saddle
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bump

stark bridge
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I mean it’s balanced it’s fine

floral estuary
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Bump

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Bunpity

placid saddle
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bump

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placid saddle
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bump

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u should make a replacement for gum slap because it’s useless

thorn zodiac
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i take back my point here, gum block doesn't need iframes because you can't steal it back when you do the jump tech without abilities

floral estuary
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honest cipher
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Never happening shut the hell up

floral estuary
honest cipher
floral estuary
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😭

thorn zodiac
thorn zodiac
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That with the jump tech makes it one of the best 2v2 styles

floral estuary
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But I knew that already

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Bumpity

placid saddle
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bump

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placid saddle
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Bumpity

placid saddle
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bump

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Bump

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Bump

placid saddle
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bump

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Bump

placid saddle
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bump

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Bumpity

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Bump

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Bump

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Bump

placid saddle
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bump

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Bumpers

placid saddle
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bump

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Giggity

woven flicker
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tbh, this is a good suggestion, but we already know that rubberman would never come back since its a "trashed" style so theres no point

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Bump

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Bump

remote jasper
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hes good enough considering weak miracle styles like emp still exist

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unless it was fixed the gum block jump tech makes luffy really good

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with a almost unblockable shot if used correctly i dont see any need for buffs

floral estuary
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Bump

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Checkpoint

arctic sequoia
woven flicker
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(AT ALL)

floral estuary
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Checkpoint

woven flicker
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Personally I own the style and haven’t used it a single time since it got vaulted

woven flicker
floral estuary
woven flicker
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And I try to use all of them when I play

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EXCEPT LAZY WORKER AND RUBBERMAN

woven flicker
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Chrollo himself said that the style doesn’t fit the game

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And REMOVED it but kept it as ltm so the people who actually like it can be happy

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So your suggestion is practically useless

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If it was still in game this could be a fire balance 🥀

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But it is what it is

floral estuary
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🤷🏽‍♂️

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Bump

golden quiver
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me personally I don't think he needs a buff but if they wanna believe in their suggestion then that's chill

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Bump

gaunt ridge
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this is the dumbest suggestion I have ever seen

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you wanna buff rubberman?

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a idiotic style

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that is known for spammers

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smh

floral estuary
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Bumpity

floral estuary
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Genius, vampire, king, and many more

gaunt ridge
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or much harder to steal from

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the range is already high

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tatlis is predictable no excuse
king unc joker switcher are all 50/50
Air Perfection Silver are goaltending but you pick up the ball
Star and Giant can be baited dont even
genius lockdown move just use on an on ball variant to get passed it dont even
miku just slows them down a bit not a threat
jackpot steal can be baited out
eclipse would be a threat tho

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most styles are spams but counterable

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rubberman wouldn't

floral estuary
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Not only that, pretty sure it can be stolen by jackpot steal

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But regardless, your excuse as to why some of those styles are justified was that it can be baited, which rubberman also can

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So

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🤷🏽‍♂️

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Cry somewhere else

royal stirrup
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even if that's your definition of "spam" at least half of the styles in this game are like that

floral estuary
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Bumpity

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Bump

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Bump

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Bump

floral estuary
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Bump

nimble oar
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@celest marlin Bro we need zoro in the game

thorn zodiac
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fix declaration shot

spark mortar
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bump

native ore
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bump hella

hushed sedge
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Didnt they buff the style during the most recent upd?

native ore
limber fiber
native ore
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they dont need to do anything once they click it (shot sense) however tendril gets shot passed and even pump fakes get snatched

thorn zodiac
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overall it was a buff more than anything and if you haven't figured out jumping while using rubber block by now lock in