Let the people cry

[tardy notch]

Legit cuz of people crying styles that don't need nerfs are getting nerfs and styles that don't don't buffs are getting buffed LIKE WHAT?
use common sense and DECIDE ON UR OWN WHAT NEEDS A BUFF AND NERF
LIKE IVE SEEN SUGGESTIONS FOR STYLES WHERE THEY HAVE 2 SIDES OF PEOPLE WHO WANT BUFFS AND NERFS
A great example are the rubber man suggestions where I've seen a suggestion to buff it and a suggestion to NERF it... EVEN THO IT NEEDS NONE OF THAT ITS PERFECT
(Cuz of people crying styles like lock
that is JUST defense got nerfed and now all rounders are better at defense than DEFENSE STYLES)
https://tenor.com/view/luffy-sad-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-crying-gif-6456996045401281897

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-think-gif-8829751109291692418

[tardy notch]

Best emoji

[tardy notch]

Bump

[past bough]

Real

[tardy notch]

https://tenor.com/view/cyclops-ryu-dap-me-up-dap-dap-up-gif-2485274535169214603

Gotta Bump this

The word must spread

[tardy notch]

.

[zinc herald]

blah blah blah

average venom user

[near forum]

Ong

[near forum]

Tbh its kinda wrong

[open sluice]

lock needed a nerf

mashing c and getting possession isn’t fair

[near forum]

Fr

Unnecessary buffs

Star is still better

[jolly nexus]

I still think venom should get reverted but with no i frames and endlag

In tendril snatch

And its range is reduced

[neon nymph]

I think they’re just saying that the devs should come to that conclusion themselves instead of listening to polls or stuff like that. Idk im just saying stuff

[jolly nexus]

And doesn’t interfere with ability ls

[jolly nexus]

Facts

[near forum]

Here me out

[jolly nexus]

What

[near forum]

Revert, add a gc and remove the iframes

[jolly nexus]

Ok that sounds great

[near forum]

Perfect nerf

10/10

[jolly nexus]

Actually i fine with that but it shouldn’t interfere with move is my problem with tendril snatch

I think

Right

[open sluice]

what even was the lock nerf

[jolly nexus]

Idk

[neon nymph]

Can’t catch unblockable passes

[near forum]

Cant steal iframes passes

[open sluice]

that’s literally fair why is he mad

💔

[neon nymph]

Idk, imma be honest I’ve always seen Lock as a decent style

[jolly nexus]

Why was lock even op tho

[neon nymph]

Just not the best option

[jolly nexus]

I thought it was good

[desert quarry]

What y’all think about pressure back?

[jolly nexus]

Idk

[neon nymph]

It had Iframes on intercept and could catch any pass

[desert quarry]

Annoying?

[neon nymph]

Plus the range was huge

[jolly nexus]

Oh

[neon nymph]

Meh

[jolly nexus]

Going back on tendril snatch-

[neon nymph]

Was expecting something more

[desert quarry]

What y’all think?

[open sluice]

lock went from mediocre to op to sorta op now

[desert quarry]

Annoying?

[open sluice]

so lazy

[neon nymph]

Yeah it’s had a relatively good run

[neon nymph]

I think it could’ve been better

[open sluice]

adding pressure back is so stupid you remove it then add it back except 2 months later??

not even a rework??

[desert quarry]

So we gonna have people spamming pressure like crazy?

[neon nymph]

It shocks me how bad this game’s rework or revamps are because they’re like “yeah styles are so easy we can make one in less than a week.” But can’t make a single new move?

[neon nymph]

I guess

[jolly nexus]

I hate that they put out op thing except venom(my opinion) and then nerf it later when everyone has it and then they rebalance it not even touching it again after

[desert quarry]

Can we at least counter it?

Like any tips

[jolly nexus]

Psychic was just op and ordinary shot should be half court but should be blockable and endlag on being blocks

[neon nymph]

The game is at a point where they’re only looking up at what they want to do and not down at what needs changes

[jolly nexus]

Like war robots rn

[neon nymph]

I got nothing

[desert quarry]

Alr thx tho

[jolly nexus]

Its legit making cry tbh

[neon nymph]

I really just want a proper rework for once, like just give Giant some juice please 🙏

[jolly nexus]

FR

it lack luster for me

[neon nymph]

I have a whole concept ready, but I don’t have an image I can use for it

[near forum]

Giant is already good

Before it's nerf

[neon nymph]

How’s it doing rn?

[near forum]

And still is good

[neon nymph]

Alright, then I guess it doesn’t need it.

[blissful grotto]

what miracle defense styles are there

[near forum]

Luffy

[blissful grotto]

is he a pure defense tho?

[near forum]

No pure defense styles in miracle

[neon nymph]

There’s no pure defense miracle styles

If KNB styles weren’t denied then Murasakibara would probably end up the first full defensive miracle, but now it’s practically impossible

[blissful grotto]

they do need to add that but i can see why all rounders are better defensively cos they are higher

lock lowkey now still has the best defence move

[fierce stone]

rubberman does need buffs but you're right on every other part

[near trout]

So basically it would be like luffys block where you get the ball and it gets stolen right after

[south aurora]

Chrollo needs to stick to the nerf side

[jolly nexus]

Yes but it CAN get stolen but yes

[tardy notch]

I don't use venom ...

[tardy notch]

It's a DEFENSE STYLE HE ISNT AN ALL ROUNDER

[abstract sinew]

Kind of true but still some characters Need to get nerfed,actually come to think of it nothing needs a nerf huh

[tardy notch]

Eh well

2 styles come to mind

[abstract sinew]

Accept for tatlis and Chrollo

[tardy notch]

That need a slight nerf

[abstract sinew]

Except

[tardy notch]

No not those

Venom and psychic

[abstract sinew]

Oh yeah

Didn’t Chrollo make venom?

[tardy notch]

He made both

[abstract sinew]

I KNEW IT

he always makes broken styles ahem AHEM(teleport)

[tardy notch]

I don't think lock needed a nerf

Cuz yh know...

He's the only pure defense style

[abstract sinew]

Agreed

If a lock has the ball just wait for him to finish his dribbles to block or steal

[tardy notch]

https://tenor.com/view/cyclops-ryu-dap-me-up-dap-dap-up-gif-2485274535169214603

[tardy notch]

[mint salmon]

That lock buff was needed

I mean nerf

Spamming that unblockable pass is just wild

[open sluice]

Yup because it should be busted because its not versatile

ts so dumb

[near forum]

It's versatile alright

[near trout]

doesn't really work unless ur playing ranked cus of pumpfake pass and shoot passing existing

[near trout]

what was the nerf

i didn't even know it got nerfed

[neon nymph]

They can’t stop unblockable passes

So Phantom, Emperor, Gold, stuff like that

[near trout]

oh

so its basically still busted

[tardy notch]

??

This guy hates lock...

[near trout]

it not stopping unblockable passes helps but like it doesn't change the fact ur required to pass so much in bbz

[neon nymph]

Were there other nerfs?

[tardy notch]

Uuuh

Na

[near trout]

its annoying to go against in a game where ur required to pass

i wouldn't even mind intercept if you had to time it

you can just mash it

and it will work eventually

[zinc herald]

technically emperor can be considered defensive

[tardy notch]

He's an all rounder

[zinc herald]

kinda leans towards defense

[tardy notch]

Not rly..

[zinc herald]

emp reach emp defense

[near trout]

rubber could maybe be considered full defensive but idk cus of the gear swap

[zinc herald]

emp vis if we can include that

[tardy notch]

Still no

[cinder field]

this post is a little stupid

[tardy notch]

Thanks

[zinc herald]

kinda

[tardy notch]

Aaaaaa nooo

He's an all rounder

[cinder field]

lock was literally so broken

[zinc herald]

yes

[cinder field]

mashing buttons to get the ball was never fair

[tardy notch]

Something needs to stop unblockable passes

[near estuary]

They made Spiderman's sense not have iframes, and venoms steal not have iframes, so the opposing team can steal it back making the moves almost pointless.

[cinder field]

idk what your trying to apply in this post because it js seems like u dont want anything to get nerfed or buffed

if your saying what im thinking your basicly saying pre nerf chrollo and tatlis was perfectly fine

[near estuary]

Chrollo got a hard nerf. His dribble speed nerf wasn't needed. I feel as though they should've kept the speed the same but the range nerd was fine. The tatlis nerf is quite balanced imo

[near forum]

It's not though

[zinc herald]

emp reach emp d

[open sluice]

jackpot

[jolly nexus]

Venom- oh yeah no it can’t anymore

[near forum]

Not considered defensive though

[zinc herald]

still defensive

[near forum]

So just bc of emp reach, emp a defensive style?

[near estuary]

Defensive wise rubber man is the best miracle imo in base

[near forum]

Rubber Has the worse defense

Giant on top

[near estuary]

Not really... It's just nobody knows how to use him properly.

He's really good for both it's just nobody knows how to time the slap so they call him bad.

[near forum]

The slap is just buns

[near estuary]

It makes the ball free and if you time it properly with a spider or psychic on your team it's an easy point

There's also ace, cyber, venom, etc. that can get the ball easily.

[brisk gale]

ig slap should throw ball to teammate or bring to you

[near estuary]

That would make him too overpowered to be in miracle. Especially since he gets iframes with the move. He already has a move to stop a shot, I feel as though slap is a relatively balanced move.

[zinc herald]

emp defense

[near forum]

Not a defensive style still

[zinc herald]

1 offense 2 defense

[near forum]

not a defense style

its not like lock or giant

somthin called a all arounder

also 2 is defense/offense

[zinc herald]

so were saying passes are offensive

[near forum]

force shot?

and passes are offensive

[zinc herald]

???

[near forum]

or then how we going to advance?

[zinc herald]

did you just say passes are offensive

[near forum]

offensive smh

[zinc herald]

ai overview

[zinc herald]

what happens when ult

flash ult

steal

[near forum]

defensive

what kind of question is that

[zinc herald]

now you gotta pass

[near forum]

offensive

not hard to understand

[zinc herald]

so you let it get stolen

right

[near forum]

then you're being stupid

[zinc herald]

but if you dont pass to ur teammates then ur getting ball stolen

[near forum]

Then pass

its not at all considered a defensive move

[zinc herald]

ur being defensive by not letting them get the ball

so they dont score

if u dont pass then ur getitng ball stolen

u cant evade it awk is about 100 seconds long

ur bound to get ball stolen

without passing

[near forum]

qb it

emp pass is a pass which is a offensive move

arguement over

[zinc herald]

???

[nimble siren]

Bump

Also they should nerf all limited styles except tatlis, perfection, bbg and uncle sam

Uncle sam needs a buff to be honest

[near forum]

nah perfection and bbg needs a nerf

[nimble siren]

Perfection I understand blink is annoying but since spider and Luffy can do the same now

But how basketball god

That thing sucks

🫩

[near forum]

3 point layup

[deft pilot]

bbg is hard to balance since 2s works diffrent from the normal game

[zinc herald]

ignoring everything i said

[near forum]

I am not proceeding to argue with you

[nimble siren]

Still compare anything else to bbg 🫩🙏 bbg sucks bro

[deft pilot]

Speaking of emp

[near forum]

it doesnt

[deft pilot]

who buffed this man😭

[nimble siren]

Yo guys remember when emperor just came out and you only could hear the sound effects of stealing ? 🫩

[near forum]

fr

[nimble siren]

3v3s and 2v2s were atrocious

[near forum]

who remember when people were flying with perfection

clashing against eachother\

[nimble siren]

Or tatlis pre nerf

In diamond rank

All you could encounter

Was tatlises

Spamming their snaps

🫩🙏

[near forum]

I needa farm ranked

I am unranked 3s

gold in 2s

and g3 in 1s

[nimble siren]

I got every style In the game except uncle sam Bru 🫩 and perfection cuz I spun then off

I'm so mad

I hope one of these comes back

[near forum]

I spun off all my limiteds when I got them\

[nimble siren]

I still have perfect zone tho

[near forum]

the only real ones I regret kinda was chaos

[nimble siren]

🙏🫩 how many limited u got now

[near forum]

which I hadnt gotten yet

[near forum]

6 limited styles

out of 9

[nimble siren]

Dude use the 67 method trust me I had 68 spins And I spun once said six seven and pulled tatlis

TS works

🥹

[nimble siren]

Which ones u missing?

[near forum]

I got tatlis

[amber shore]

You expect chrollo to use common sense instead of making the game 90% limited style spam?

[near forum]

chrollo, cell, and unc

[nimble siren]

Fr

If soccer zero is like ts

[near forum]

chrollo finna kill bbz

watch

[nimble siren]

You know what would be the best idea

Make limited styles

[near forum]

he needs to sell one of his games

[nimble siren]

0.25% in lucky

[near forum]

so he doesnt have too much on his hand

[nimble siren]

And 0.05% in normal

[deft pilot]

ths game is turning into blr

[nimble siren]

SO I DON'T SEE 13 CHROLLOS UNTIL I SEE A DIFF STYLE BRU

[deft pilot]

heck they basically added lefty shot with venom

[near forum]

Lucky I play comp

[nimble siren]

if they add master styles I wouldn't even be mad just nerf every style in the game 🥹🫩

[deft pilot]

at this rate i might quit

[deft pilot]

never happening

[near forum]

like people LOVE being rarity bias

[nimble siren]

A example of a PERFECTLY balanced style overall is flash

And chuck

[near forum]

not really

[deft pilot]

chuck is just trash

[near forum]

gaint

[deft pilot]

flash is valid

[near forum]

and jp

[magic ivy]

jp isnt balanced

and giant was meta

[near forum]

it is

[magic ivy]

for a reason

cuz of braindead snatch

[deft pilot]

it is

[nimble siren]

Nah if u stack up that shot move you could shot pretty far

[magic ivy]

jp isnt balanced lol

[near forum]

bc its the only center in game

[near forum]

skill issue

[magic ivy]

if you think ability that limits mechanics

is balanced

no its not

[nimble siren]

Jackpot is balanced too I would say

Think about it

Cell can get the same as jackpot in ult

But guaranteed

[deft pilot]

you can easily find a way around jp steal

[nimble siren]

Jackpot has like 40%

[near forum]

he is mad

[deft pilot]

just dont be predictable

[near forum]

bc he sucks

[magic ivy]

its not about finding a way around jp steal

[near forum]

its so easy to counter

[magic ivy]

obv you are limiting your dribbles to 2

and also limits

your ability usage

[near forum]

use 4 dribble zones

or 777

[magic ivy]

such as post form

[deft pilot]

dribble skills:

[magic ivy]

or anything

[magic ivy]

no way

really

thanks

[near forum]

post form actually got a buff

[magic ivy]

also theres things such as unc sam being garbage right but jp removes all of its abilities

with just one ability

thats not balance

[near forum]

its balanced

just get good

[deft pilot]

wow bro one style has a better matchup against another?
so suprising

[magic ivy]

what does it have to do with "get good" 😭

[near forum]

theirs star

which if you play comp

its meta

[nimble siren]

What do I even do in TS game anymore I have NOTHING to bother grinding ( I had 250 lucky spins I just wanted to test out every zone and style in the game)

[magic ivy]

yes i wonder why

ability trading is a thing sure

imagine

[deft pilot]

and uncle sam just isnt a good style

he's easy to block

he's slow

[magic ivy]

i gave an example

[nimble siren]

Dance if you can make BALANCED styles
Chrollo doesn't dance
Tatlis dances some times

[magic ivy]

of how one ability counters lots of abilities

[nimble siren]

TS game so boring now

Even if I play ranked to grind rank

I encounter cheaters

[magic ivy]

same thing as ability passes being useless because there were giants only every server

they fixed it

[near forum]

it got boring for me when they removed jump abilities

[deft pilot]

all cuz of 1 style btw

[near forum]

fr

just fix bbg

[deft pilot]

ofc they had to indirectly nerf fetch

[magic ivy]

easier for them than fixing a lot of things

[near forum]

that was the only issue

[magic ivy]

giant goaltending / clutch goaltending

fetch messing up with some core mechanics

giving the ball iframes

still can but it was wrose

worse*

[deft pilot]

wdym goaltending?

[nimble siren]

The giant situation doesn't even COMPARE to when chrollo and tatlis came out 🫩

[magic ivy]

giant could goaltend

[nimble siren]

Or emperor

[magic ivy]

same with pressure defense

[deft pilot]

cuz ik perfection goaltends

[magic ivy]

star still can

but inconsistent

[near forum]

giant couldnt really goal tend if you high enough

[near forum]

how?

[magic ivy]

it gives the ball iframes

unable to pick it up

during passes

or even when match starts

[near forum]

No?

[magic ivy]

yes

[near forum]

you mean DIVING the ball>

??

[deft pilot]

but thats not goaltending
Goaltending is when you block the ball after it begins to fall towards the net

[magic ivy]

yes it gives the ball iframes

that prevents your teammates

or enemy players

from picking it up

[near forum]

no?

[magic ivy]

similar to blink

yes

[near forum]

Diving it never done that

[magic ivy]

thats how it works 😭

[near forum]

dawg

I used fetch

[magic ivy]

dont tell me you dont know

fetch intercepts

[near forum]

it never was an issue

[magic ivy]

passes

[near forum]

Oh I do

only long passes though

I was the one who started to spread that

make it publicly known

[magic ivy]

what

any fetch player knew it

[near forum]

exactly

[magic ivy]

and any fetch player knows

[near forum]

I would always argue about fetch

[magic ivy]

it forces the ball to have iframes

preventing teammates or opps from taking it

[near forum]

it doesnt

[magic ivy]

yes it does

[near forum]

No it doesnt 😭

[magic ivy]

you can intercept teammates pass

forcing it to have iframes

so it will fly through

your teammate

[deft pilot]

fetch honestly needs something more, like a new move

[magic ivy]

you can abuse it in many ways

[deft pilot]

floater has no synergy with his other moves

[magic ivy]

floater is a bait

just to pass someone

[near forum]

floater I think be good if switcher switched from a open area

[deft pilot]

you can pass during floater?

[magic ivy]

yes you can

[near forum]

for anything

[magic ivy]

same with bbg's dunk

[deft pilot]

thanks i didnt know that before

[magic ivy]

or normal dunk

[near forum]

Animalistic:

[magic ivy]

before sure rn nah id rather use speed dribble

[mint salmon]

Ima cry, cause every 5 secs I see a chrollo user awaken😭

[deft pilot]

Limited: Zero

[mint salmon]

🥀

[deft pilot]

when was the last time yall saw a phantom or playmaker awaken

[mint salmon]

Phantom yesterday

[near forum]

ranked 2s for playmaker

playmaker a good style fr though

[mint salmon]

But rn is full of chrollo and tatlis bums😭

[nimble siren]

Yo guys

Do you remember when they said they will make unique some

Zones

Made 2 unique zones

Then proceeded to spam the same bs

Into zones

[mint salmon]

They also said they wouldn't make zones before?

[nimble siren]

Uncle Sam gold vision and tatlis only unique zones that they made

Then they spammed same bs

🫩

[mint salmon]

Unc sam zone sucks

[nimble siren]

We know gng

🫩

[mint salmon]

Especially if u have bad teammates

[near forum]

president bugged too

[nimble siren]

Yh they don't bother fixing anything bro

[near forum]

theirs a bug to make it infinite

like permanet

[nimble siren]

I don't see no tatlis in either Kuroko no basket or street basketball irl 🫩

[mint salmon]

Rn it's filled with chrollo and tatlis users🥀

[near forum]

I dont be seeing a axe

[nimble siren]

Oh and did I mention

How BAD UNCLE SAM IS??

[nimble siren]

Tatlis ain't that bad but TS chrollo thingy pmo so hard 🫩

Go in ahh

Go in shh

Even if I jump

[deft pilot]

clearly we need a psychic and perfection buff
nerf unc sam

[nimble siren]

It doesn't register me blocking

Since why would it

[mint salmon]

1 sec with the ball and they dribble to the other side 😭

Or shoot it half court

[nimble siren]

They said they will buff uncle Sam and I'm pretty sure they made his cannon move bugged and not stun anymore

🫩

[deft pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/miragem-shot-tatsuya-himuro-gif-25364726

[strong nacelle]

this game is based around styles not skill

people need to realize that sooner

[nimble siren]

Yo guys what's uncle Sam zone called

I forgot

[deft pilot]

president

[mint salmon]

🥀

[near forum]

president

[nimble siren]

Yh 1v1s would be skillfull

IF THEY REMOVED ZONES

[mint salmon]

When is cosmic garou vs saitama event soon?🤑 🤑

[magic ivy]

theres barely any skill involved in a game with low skill ceiling

[nimble siren]

And Made me queue In EUROPE not SINGAPORE!!

[magic ivy]

even if its a 1v1

theres not enough difficult

mechanics

or anything

[torn shuttle]

One side sucks at the game, the other is good at the game.
One ragebaits, one is genuine about their bad opinion.

[magic ivy]

game is really simple

[nimble siren]

I said if they removed zones from 1v1s

I would enjoy it

[nimble siren]

Reason why most people play it tho

[magic ivy]

yes

[vast kite]

its a good support defo better than spider

[deft pilot]

there's alot of luck involved even with no styles

[nimble siren]

Why do you think a new blue lock fan will prefer SMTH like blr than goalbound

[deft pilot]

its mainly guessing

[magic ivy]

yes cuz latency, ping

sometimes animation desync as well

[nimble siren]

Guys am I reading TS correctly

🫩

[magic ivy]

guy already shots the ball

then cancels it

[vast kite]

spider is trash hahaha

[nimble siren]

🫩

[vast kite]

no iframes on a ball move with high startup

literaly whats the point

[deft pilot]

i blocked a kid but the ball went through my hands

[deft pilot]

so its trash

[mint salmon]

I feel like they are barely working on styles rn

[vast kite]

teamwork's startup is too high, stuns YOU and your teammate
no iframes on the grab
no iframes on the ragdoll punish on ball move with high startup ❓ 😭

literally the only good things to come from is it the roll off move and the ult

[vast kite]

yes

[mint salmon]

Teamwork is more like friendly fire🥀

[vast kite]

and the cutscenes look like buns too

😭

[nimble siren]

Uncle Sam was their LAST effort

I already know the next styles

Chrollo goes on trends or stuff he likes

I'm 78% sure next style is escanor

[vast kite]

uncle sam has a gauranteed far range pass, unstoppable dunk, half court shot, most free 3 in the entire game for the ult

[nimble siren]

Or higurama

[vast kite]

great support really

[deft pilot]

Venom (post nerf btw): Instant start up, Bypasses shot iframes, iframes on endlag, easiest block move in the game

[mint salmon]

I'm 100% sure he's gonna make a style that no one expects

[magic ivy]

chuck has smooth animations vfx sfx and cutscenes compared to spider / venom

cuz they actually used to care about quality

before

not anymore

[nimble siren]

Mc of nukitashi ahh

Elite ball knowledge btw

[deft pilot]

If the style is strong ppl will use it no matter how it looks

because people like winning

[nimble siren]

I wouldn't agree

[deft pilot]

*most people

especially in ranked

[vast kite]

these guys need a new balancing team like rihgt now

[magic ivy]

i remember the hype for emperor even though emp reach was broken that style visually is so nice

[nimble siren]

Some people are so bad I once won against 2 chrollos 1 tatlis while playing my glorious handsome 6'7 six pack flash

[vast kite]

they dont know what theyre doing

[deft pilot]

They could put me on there and i would do a better job

(lowk self glaze but)

[nimble siren]

They can put the homeless there and they would say TS balancing sucks

[vast kite]

i was like actually baffled by how bad spider was

its amazing

they probably think thats what'd be considered good balancing

[nimble siren]

Spider is not bad gng

[vast kite]

yeah its terrible

[nimble siren]

You have to understand ult to base ratio

Some styles op in base

[deft pilot]

the block move is good but teamwork and hi are dissapointing

[nimble siren]

Bad in ulg

[nimble siren]

Some styles good in ult

Bad in base

And that's spider

[vast kite]

if youre bad in base you mighjt as well just switch styles lol

[nimble siren]

A move that steals any shot and any pass for 30 seconds

That's..

Op

[deft pilot]

yeah but
every move is supposed to have some use, teamwork doesn't

[vast kite]

with the way awakenings work just use anything with a better base

[nimble siren]

Teamwork should be removed

Every time ranked resets

[vast kite]

no brah just decrease teamwork's startup

its so long

[nimble siren]

I get placed with the lowest intelligence people

[vast kite]

disables you and a teammate

[nimble siren]

Bro ALREADY SCORED

And the guy uses teamwork

🫩

[deft pilot]

and make it not ankle break your teammate even if they dribble

[vast kite]

they could atlesat give the web swing move iframes lol

its probably the most worthles move ingame

[nimble siren]

Cyber and psychic are yet to be nerfed btw

🫩

[vast kite]

unless youre 1v1ing

[deft pilot]

Their awakenings just lock you out of the game

[nimble siren]

Yh but to be fair

If you face a good player with tatlis

Tatlis ult

Is a diff type of threat

😭

[deft pilot]

true

[nimble siren]

4 guarantee stealing moves

Tatlis font got anything than steal going for him tho

That's why I consider him balanced

[deft pilot]

i feel like there should not More than one "Instant 3" or "Instant Steal" move in any styles awakening

[nimble siren]

Yeah

[deft pilot]

otherwise nobody else can do anything

[nimble siren]

I'm so happy they made tatlis only insta steal again

[magic ivy]

man i wish emp vision zone would let you see ppls cooldowns

imagine playing with emp against tatlis

[nimble siren]

Dude tatlis was so niche like a month after release

Cuz s bunch of people kept chrollo

But of COURSE

They brought it back

Destroy the balance ahh

[vast kite]

they need to stop with this self insert stuff

they are NOT tuff

[nimble siren]

And afk zone

...

NEEDS TO BE NERFED

My friend afks there

And always gets all limited styles

I had them og

😭🫩

Let me have it game

[near forum]

it needs a buff

ngl

I still dont got the other 2 zones

chrollo

and

chaos

[deft pilot]

it needs a buff but only when i need a new style or zone

[nimble siren]

Yo based on these new limited styles

[strong nacelle]

but yeah, some styles need a small nerf, like venom shouldn't have a long range auto steal in base, it's a bit unfair. There really shouldn't be any auto steals/auto shots (except cutscenes)

[nimble siren]

I got a perfect idea for a balanced style

It only has 2 moves

With ball

Jakuhō Raikōben

Without

Jakuhō Raikōben

Other move

With ball

Jakuhō Raikōben x2

Off ball

Jakuhō Raikōben x2

Every move steals the ball and insta scored

Zone is also called Jakuhō Raikōben

And gives every buff of every zone combines

And every 5 seconds everyone explodes

[jolly nexus]

Oh i got the perfect balance change for it to be perfect

The zone does nothing and the style now does nothing

[deft pilot]

🔥

[jolly nexus]

And also for styles that dont need nerfs yea lets remove them

[near estuary]

The community ruins the definition of balancing. They GUT things that they are like hey this is annoying. Like bro sometimes you need to learn it's okay the way it is. Annoyed because it happens to them but if they do it then it's fine. Like peak community balancing.

[jolly nexus]

Yea true

[amber shore]

How did it get buffed

More range?

[neon nymph]

How do you increase a 2pt area move’s range?

Let em do it on the court?

[near forum]

switcher

[strange swift]

I understand but this aint going to do a thing

[near forum]

Wdym

[strange swift]

the devs wont listen

[misty vale]

Lock is mad op

U can shoot pass anymore which is fair

But shoot passes shouldn't even exist in the first place

[near forum]

Why?

It makes the game better

[near forum]

Also shooting pass bugs out emp pass

[zinc herald]

#1411788588198400030

[misty vale]

No??

Not being able to block the ball is annoying

U have the worst takes it just looks like ragebait sometimes💔

[jolly nexus]

I dont see the ragebait

[near forum]

So you want to get blocked all the time?

We suggest the game to become blr or goal bound where you have to use abilities to get even score?

Bc it's as simple as jp steal with pump fake pass

And idk about you

But I see people just pass it nowadays

Easily blocked

Like

You saying my take is horrible

We will be 5 minutes in with 0 points if both sides block properly without any styles

Like

🥀🥀🥀

Ggs

@misty vale who has the worse take?

Who has issues defending?

Like

Just get better dude

It don't take a rocket scientist to play a game and practice 🥀🥀🥀

It's just a skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/thanxy-gif-9009172360785022001

[misty vale]

that is part of the game?

[misty vale]

issues defending a nearly unblockable pass that is so easy to perform?

[misty vale]

AND U MENTION JP STEAL

I HATE U AND U WILL BE THE CURSE OF FOREVER

BECAUSE JP STEAL ISNT REAL

also are we deadass using abilities to counter a base move now?

its not ability on ability anymore

its literally ability on base move now

ion got issues defending

i got issues defending a pass shot

[near forum]

Skill issue

[misty vale]

bro lives with his SOUL on it

if they removed pass shots bro will mourn for that too 😭

[near forum]

A pass shot isn't hard to defend

[near forum]

Nah I am still waiting for my jump abilities to come back first

[misty vale]

if they removed pass shots next thing im seeing is RIP pass shots 2024-2025 on everyones bio

[misty vale]

what jump abilities

jp?

[near forum]

Jumping and using an ability

[misty vale]

oh

yea but genuinely i thought my blocks were bugged

when i was 100% blocking those pass shots

but no its iframes

[near forum]

If you are worried about shot pass, lwky gl with switcher and post form 3

[misty vale]

it just removes the idea of unblockable passes

[misty vale]

id rather have that happen that a million shot passes

ive seen that happen

[jolly nexus]

Tendril snatch revert-

[misty vale]

even thats blockable

[near forum]

It's not though

[jolly nexus]

Sadge

[near forum]

It's harder

It gains iframes from switch I believe

And jp steal can't defend against it

[misty vale]

IT IS

maybe not from like

the same person getting post formed

but ATLEAST its blockable

and u mention jp steal again

god DAMN ITÄ

[near forum]

Really isn't though

[near forum]

Bc jp steal the best counter atm

[misty vale]

u can jp steal post form isnt that good enough for u

let them switch

and then right after

[near forum]

No

[misty vale]

IMMEDIATLY use it

[near forum]

Can't

[misty vale]

wdym cant

oh cuz too far away?

[near forum]

If they get switched during post form and go for the shot, my steal would miss

Jp steal got it's limitations

Like every other steal

[misty vale]

it doesnt have to be jp steal

on everything

holy

i cant anymore 💀

[near forum]

Bet clutch cancels post form, same thing will happen

Gold, same thing will happen

Tatlis maybe

[misty vale]

so u want a jp steal buff?

[near forum]

No I just want my jump abilities

So I can dive passes

🤑🤑🤑

[misty vale]

yea but shot passes still need a nerf imo

[near forum]

No

[misty vale]

i dont wanna use lock every round

[near forum]

Just mad you suck

[misty vale]

lock is miserable

oh ok

[near forum]

You suck obviously

Holy

[misty vale]

yea

i definetly suck

u be like those opponents who say fake spammer in 1v1s 💔

[near forum]

Imagine not being able to defend against shot passes

[near forum]

Wdym

???

Makes no sense to me but you be you

[tardy marlin]

i use JP and it’s def not balanced

[near forum]

It is???

[neon nymph]

I hardly see any JP so that’s crazy to me

[near forum]

I see jps all the time in comp

Like

Crazy take

I main jp

🤣🤣🤣

[neon nymph]

Man, somehow I just never see em

[near forum]

I have been using jp for like 2 or 3 months

Ts is balanced

Just behind the right player makes it op

[neon nymph]

These days all I play is Copycat because it’s got some of the best rush down mobility

[near forum]

Me personally, I would practice using bbg and find out how to do the 3 point layup

[neon nymph]

I didn’t get BBG, lol

[near forum]

Rip

Did you get the zone at most?

[neon nymph]

Nah

[near forum]

Rip

[neon nymph]

My luck with Zones is horrid

[near forum]

Same, I got senses on a alt and didn't get darkness. I didn't even get any of those zones on my main

Next event

I'ma

Spin giant too

So I don't have to be the giant in comp

[neon nymph]

Giant and Ace are in an interesting spot rn, in my opinion at least

[near forum]

Giant isn't, ace is

Giant is fine

It's the only reliable center in the game

[neon nymph]

That’s fair

[near forum]

And the only reliable small forward is star

[neon nymph]

Surprisingly enough, Ace which is the only mythic to get reworked needs more changes

[near forum]

Fr, it's the worst mythic excluding lazy worker

He just a meme character ong

[neon nymph]

Somehow they took the movement and 2pt king of the GOM and made him the weakest and most boring mythic ever

[near forum]

Huh?

[neon nymph]

What?

[near forum]

Wdym

[neon nymph]

In my opinion, Ace is boring

[near forum]

Fs

[tardy marlin]

it has a pass that has iframes and gives the shooter iframes , the bug where after u steal u can stun ppple, force pass etc and not to mention the steal goes through iframes like kurokos pass move can be stolen legit any pass move u can steal and if u jump and use it immodestly it takes u crazy distances i think that’s pretty much every reason why JP is NOT balanced

[near forum]

Boring and easily blockable

[tardy marlin]

if u time correctly u can also steal when players are using a shooting move.

[near forum]

it's balanced, you do realize it takes TIMING which is a massive skill for jp to being able to steal it not mention it's easy to miss sometimes, just because the style is easy to learn and master DON'T make it broken. Or in that case Ace is good.

[tardy marlin]

just before they shoot

[tardy marlin]

dawg it is not balanced bro how do u look at what i just said and be like “ yeah that’s balanced”

btw if u do force pass bug

it gives u iframes

and u can shoot without getting blocked

[near forum]

that's on them, not the style, it can steal anything as long as they have the ball in hands

[tardy marlin]

all these bugs with JP for months

[tardy marlin]

yea but one style shud not counter legit most styles in the game?

it’s def miracle rarity ain’t no way ts is mythic

[near forum]

most cases not being able to work because you would have to be close to the hoop, dribbling removes the iframes

[near forum]

its kinda too late to bump it up

[tardy marlin]

yea i don’t need to dribble? as long as my tm8: have ball i press it and when i’m near the line and people can’t intercept or block my shot

within that time period

[near forum]

I mean, giant kinda does the samething'

[tardy marlin]

Giant is way harder to use tho and post form sucks , snatch is good but after the nerf it’s worse

[near forum]

jp is the strongest balanced style while gaint is the weakest of the balanced, its a range of balance

[near forum]

post form switch combo>

?

we ignoring that]

[tardy marlin]

Yes cuz u need another person to make a move hood?

good

and it’s still blockable

[near forum]

I mean, its like that with every style, your point is?

[tardy marlin]

as long as the person he’s posting is decent

[tardy marlin]

no im saying u need a specific style to make gaint good which is not equal to every other style

[near forum]

You think it's EQUAL because you're not a comp player

[tardy marlin]

i just said it’s not equal ?

i don’t need to play comp to know what’s balanced and what’s not

the pubs i play in already way too sweaty 💀

pretty sure my friends are all comp players

[near forum]

they arent though pubs are all the same

[near forum]

name a comp na player then

what team they play for

[tardy marlin]

one of my friends Dani said he was ex top 1 giant in eu

[near forum]

what team

[tardy marlin]

don’t know

gotta ask later

[near forum]

ask rn

name another player

[jolly nexus]

Lebron james- oh

[unborn dust]

[jolly nexus]

RAAAHA

[hoary zinc]

people don’t realize most of the styles in the game r usable lol

i’ve been stuck using rare and epic styles and it’s made me realize

obv they don’t rlly compare to most of the limited styles

but still

[deft pilot]

💔

[blissful grotto]

Competent teammates are better than styles

[neon nymph]

Yeah, but incompetent teammates with low ranked styles just make me sad.

[near forum]

especially when jump abilitiesd were around

[tardy marlin]

mb went to sleep , james he plays for the Too academy or that’s what’s the server is called it has like 800 members

Bru i don’t play NA

i’m eu

so i only know eu

[lunar hull]

That’s it’s whole point so that it’s not as good as a mythic but it can compete

I meant to reply to a different one

The second message he posted

[near forum]

Too academy buns

Im in it

[tardy marlin]

still comp tho

[near forum]

They're buns

No comp player is WILLING to play for them really

[tardy marlin]

idk abt the others but james is good

he said he’s taking over

the team

[near forum]

They just play for them for practice and no serious scrims

They're not really that comp

It's just like drd, no one wants to play for drd bc it fell off

All calm does is

Spam his Trump cards

[tardy marlin]

like his best players?

Idk if this is true but james said the owners got bored or soemthing and he might take over but idk tho

[tranquil quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[near forum]

Yes and I was on a team which gave his best players on other teams bta

[strong nacelle]

bumping this cause people need to see that the game is style based not skill based (however some still need nerfs)

[carmine scroll]

The fact 36% or smt voted for a new Limited style instead of rebalancing 😔

[strong nacelle]

cause they don't do rebalancing regardless it woulda just been giant, clutch, chuck nerfs

[carmine scroll]

ohh

[near forum]

It's skill base to a extent

Jp, cc is the hardest, giant and star

Are some of the hardest styles

Especially in comp

[blissful grotto]

There’s easy styles and hard styles and styles that are easy and have a low skill ceiling and some that require more thought and are better if you’re better at the game. It depends really

[near forum]

Especially in comp

[blissful grotto]

Yeah course as your average player is going to be better

[near forum]

Fs

Cc the hardest out of them all in comp

Flow step is easy

But copy is hard

Theirs styles that deserve reworks that people suggest and buff/nerfs that are needed

[tardy notch]

Rare cases

People want perfection buffs

He seems fair....

[near forum]

Nah

[tardy notch]

People want Luffy nerfs and buffs

He seems fair

People want spider buffs

He seems fair

[near forum]

"Give him I frames"

Nerf lock and venom

Remove I frames

[tardy notch]

Not a fan of lock nerfs

[near forum]

Why

??

[tardy notch]

He's a lil defense style

No dunks,dribbles,shots or passes

Eeh I mean

I guess intercept is a pass

[near forum]

So, being able to intercept short passed isn't and issue?

[tardy notch]

Short what

[near forum]

Short passes

[tardy notch]

Uuh yh..

[near forum]

From across the map

[tardy notch]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-master-chief-slow-down-xbox-video-games-gif-18456384

[near forum]

??

[near forum]

Fyi theirs other defensive styles

[tardy notch]

That are just defense ?

[near forum]

No, but is primarily used for defense

And if we wanna go that way

[tardy notch]

Ooh spider maybe

[near forum]

Tatlis

[tardy notch]

He's chill

Can't stop passes tho

But he's nice

[near forum]

Jp can

🤑🤑🤑

Though it's hard

[blissful grotto]

I don’t think they’ll buff and nerf or rework due to comp

Lock is a legendary but as of rn I think it’s in a good place. Nerfing it anymore now is unnecessary when other styles can do so much more

[near forum]

It's not even just comp in general sniper and phantom needs a rework

[blissful grotto]

Phantom is an epic it don’t need a rework I think it fulfills the purpose it was given. Sniper does kinda but again it fulfills the purpose it was given

Sniper could use one but I think phantom is where it needs to be

[near forum]

It does though, it's out beaten by even rares

Quick+sprinter beats phantom every way

[blissful grotto]

And some weaker styles beat certain mythics/miracles doesn’t mean mythic needs a rework(not completely the same but you get the point)

[near forum]

The only mythics/miracles that get out beaten is lazy worker and luffy

And ace but that's slightly harder at least

[blissful grotto]

Tbh I’d rather have a jp than a switcher. Just more useful imo

But you ain’t wrong

Would you not say cc is better than emp? I’m genuinely asking

[near forum]

Cc can be better. But it's situational and depending how good you are with star leap, jp steal. Essentially, you have to master every style

And understand that even flow step shoot is easy it's not always the best option

[blissful grotto]

But if you do then it’s cracked

[near forum]

If you do what

[blissful grotto]

If you’re good with every style

[near forum]

What I said 💀💀💀

[misty vale]

What the hell

Are we this jobless?😭

I DONT SUPPORT NO BBZ TEAM

[near forum]

Skill issue

[near forum]

Cry

Just a game

[balmy frost]

Perfection main (I am one of them): first time eh?.

[amber shore]

You can still intercept

If people cant even pass while guarded the game gets boring

[jolly nexus]

wrong emoji i meant this

[near forum]

Fr

I can intercept that pass

Called jp steal

[amber shore]

Just because you can use jackpot to counter it doesnt make it balanced, although it is

(Old) venom for example can be countered with jackpot but that doesnt make spamming an improved tatlis steal balanced, you should never have to use one specific style just to counter one op ability out of the 20 that exist