#Pls buff spider im begging
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midorima can just sit at the back of the court and just spam square
I donāt even think prime LeBron is catching that
Then why he lose the match against seirin
One funny moment where bro shoot a high arc so high that it takes more than 10 seconds to dive onto the hoop
he was unlucky
Akashi can see the future
and kuroko was lucky
Also btw midorima canonically can shoot anything perfectly with anything
he just couldnāt get the ball much
cant see the future, he just analyzes very well
Rmb the episode where it was backstory
can he shoot his shot for me?
And he threw a box at the thief on the bicycle
Imagine him if he's in the zone
imagine midorima in warfare
Buff to everything but shooting
you just give him a grenade belt
Imagine Kuroko in a fight
He only need Kagami level of jump so that no one can stop him
kuroko got kicked by nash and instantly was winded
Bro maybe skinny but uhh
His ignite pass literally reshaped the ball
His palm strike ain't no joke
just give kuroko a gun
No need for gun, if you made the guy mad enough, he pulled ts on you:
REF HE LITERALLY CONTROL THE AIR, BRO THINK THE LAST AIRBENDER
DO SOMETHING š
Aomine is the best gom level player btw
Aomine was nerfed by plot
Aomine would smoke up akashi if they played
he not cooking pre full emp eye akashi
His speed is what makes akashi hardly keep up
Gng is on that spectator mode
Fr he lowkey got some sharingan ahh vision
mind you if aomine didnt slow down the ball right here kagamis hand wouldve been blown smooth offš
just cracked my neck so good
actually amazing
why buff him?
Say hi has no iframe
Roll away doesn't have iframe and you can't change it
Teamwork has slow windup
roll away is terrible
slow is an understatement
Yeah like...a whole week business and me with one dribble somehow can ankle break them lmao
ngl remove venoms instant steal and give teamwork guaranteed
cause you can easily counter teamwork
also make teamwork freely aimable
Buff
buff
buff
buff
buff
buff
IS BAD
i got it
im happy
BUT IS SO BAD

BRUH
@here
Some?
Ayy?
also reanimate "catch" cuz it's just garbage
worst animations on awakening by far
even fetch looks better
y'all did my goat spider man wrong š”
Tatlis has given up, I'm sure he really did gave up
Spider released first but didn't came the zone
It's like it was meant to be buns all along
Atp we should quit hyping tatlis in these future Tatlis vs Chrollo updates (if tatlis couldn't lock in and just let chrollo takes the win bruh)
Fax
heres something it definetly needs: I FRAMES 2 moves in particular leave you very VERY vulnrable to steals 1. Shot sense: HOORAY you just stole a shot/pass using it but you better make sure you dribble almost the second you do it or someone will just swat it back from you 2. Say HI: do i even need to go over this ive seen it countless times you just knocked someone down with a dribble and are now going to swing off them but then right as you're about to someone else comes over and swats the ball from you and you cant do anything this is such a huge oversight
Tatlis is closer, balancing his style than chrollo
Tatlis could have get a personal W if he just make his style a bit strong
Limited don't need to be overpowered but it shouldn't be underwhelming either
Ain't going lie cyber could've won but people was just glazing chrollo
And the shot sense move also doesnāt have iframes so they can just steal it back instantly
no
Ionk
thats what i said
Sorry, didnāt see that
Just remove team work
Like even clutch's pressure defense is more useful
Any one with a proper functioning brain can counter it
And it is really annoying to get thrown across the court
Also say hi is useless
Like why would I need to stun a player to use it, only for it to go back and then cover lil distance
Which gives enough time for opponent to caught up
not to mention the lack of an i frame means if another player from the other team is nearby and youre about to swing you may as well just be handing them the ball
and teamwork is awful sure it may save your skin rarely when you need to get someone to the otherside of the court quickly but other than that.....not much oh and new players using it often you'll get yanked away from defending someone and thrown into an anklebreak giving them a free shot
Say hi is almost an auto steal for opponents
I can't even believe same guy made cyber style move sets
it needs to be gone thats what it needs
success rate too high
got someone throwing me around every game no ref to call a foul
It's easy to read wdym and too slow
You can dribble through it
has this guy ever seen spider in action? xD
have u ever seen me in action?
iām getting tossed every game
taking balls
receiving balls
most obvious ragebait and you guys are oblivious š
all of the action
Maybe lag
what are u talking about weāre having a normal conversation
@cinder delta get a load of this guy
fs do ur thing
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scally listen teamwork is beyond useless its extremely rare it works
no i think itās genuinely broken i mean
i can get thrown from nƔrnia and get the ball
it just needs a nerf
heck the only time youd ever actually use it is to get someone to a downed ball quickly
@somber basin can u call a mod here for me? i need him to voice my opinion on this
yeah that too
holy u just reminded me
nah now it really needs a nerf
op style

ion got the power to do that man
but u have a colored role
symbiote team role
yeah
that doesnt mean hes a mod
yeah ik iām asking him to get me one
its just what team hes on in the game
they need to hear my opinion on this
see heās in a team in the game
sounds pretty high end to me
he should have some power
like the dev team
im a powerless bottom feeding dirt dog

well ya dont need to degrade yourself XD
wdym man its the truth
they use me as a stepping stone and kick me like im gravel
i get fed crumbs
ok
āpowerless bottomāš
They might as well end it in 1 day
It's because chrollo couldn't be bothered to give a thought about balancing :/
At least tatlis thought of the players
Even if his style turned out undesirable
The only L style I've seen tatlis cook is his own style, big bag fumble on his end but he's bringing his redemption arc
Cyber was his best work balanced fun
In op
i mean what good is that if the style is poop
A for effort ig
Yeah I can agree, cyber is his current best. Cool new mechanic based style that's also fun to use
Well if said style can be balanced to be healthy it's a win in my eyes. Just make the windup for teamwork faster :/
yea true
but ion think its happening anytime soon then doing polls for everything but the massive problem rn
š„
It's sad to see most of the playerbase would rather bully people than actually try to play the game
Bump
at this point it may as well be a giveaway for 20 lucky spins am i right XD
Fr symbiote won there is no competition
The difference between their score spider vs symbiote is high
There's allat of people not using spider cause it's kinda buns
And symbiote with a guaranteed steal is diabolical
And the second move on spider man is so buns
Fr that's why we all need to keep bumping this suggestion be this is the best buff suggestion
They are probably gonna do it next QOL
B
They need to but spiderman is not possible that I us a move and the can just come and steal it
B
Welp chat, seems like venom snatch is finally being nerfed
However someone decided to wish for it on the monkey's paw because they're doing it in the worst way possible š
not too sure
it can still be used to block shots while gaining possessionn
still goes through iframe moves
just gotta use it more wisely
being able to steal from a move doesnāt make it balanced
imagine if you COULD steal from blink
you still got your shot blocked
venom needs a buff not a nerf
what are these guys doing man
it's grab range is diabolical
bro yall need to stop saying buff spider that crap is so freaking broken im getting yammed on
it needs a nerf act

saying !
this guy gets it
only buff teamwork
add iframes all i ask
Nah all of the stuff I listed need a buff
Say hi is useless why do I need to ankle break my opponent to use a dribble
roll away is diffrent from shammgod tho
shamgod brings you back to where you were before
hi buff is fair honestly
No it moves u forward
That whole side of the moves need a buff
it brings you foward then moves you back
No Iām pretty sure u go forward
I have the style
Idk why yall saying roll away doesnāt need that buff because roll away is already bad enough since u canāt adjust it so itās rng where u go right or left also the ball can get stolen from u while doing so I think asking for it to be adjustable is fair
fine
Spider can be buffed but remove being able to goaltend with sense
Yoo bump
Yoo
Agreed also make it so that when u use shot sense and u get the ball people cant steal it as soon as u get it
Compare it to Jp and Jp is so much better
i wouldnt compare it to a jp that is superior to 99% of other jp's
just my humble opinion
?? Make sense bruh what u saying
i wouldnt compare a style to another style that is better than 99% of the styles in the game
So what do u want to compare a limited to a legendary???
would you compare uncle sam to symbiote
you wouldnt
pointless argument
No I wouldnāt but I can compare a mythic to a limited
And the mythic being better makes no sense
i would argue that ace would be a good contender
in 2s giant
jackpot is still a good contender as well
It makes no sense how bad this style is cause why when I do the roll thatās rng btw the ball can get stolen also why do I need to ankle break my opponent to use a dribble that mind u can get stolen mid animation
I never said u did I just said these mythics being better than spider is ridiculous
ok thats cool
Especially when spider is 1% lucky and 0.25 normal
so what did you want me to say after you starting rambling about how bad spider is
the only thing I said was i found it ridiculous to compare a style to a top 1 style
There in the same tier
Released at the same time
And they compare them
Cyber awk is top 3
There is a difference between good and best
Not really they both the same imo
not really
you lose snatch
its a liability
and spider could use a move for basically
a free point
i would rather use spider awk over venoms
Losing snatch to get a free 2 pointer for letās say 100 seconds is fine
its a free 2 pointer if you get the ball
spiders awk is more valuable because you dont need the ball to use the move
Ur saying u wonāt
Not really
Cause they basically do the same thing
There both 2 pointers
And venom has 2 pulls correct me if Iām wrong
so your saying losing snatch and having to have a ball to use a cutscene move isnt a liability
there is a reason why people like psychics awk
It isnāt cause u get it back itās not like u lose it the whole game
because 2 of the moves are off the ball moves for a free point
in 2s its definitely a liability
And still cybers is better
in 3s, most people are symbiote
so why wouldnt it be a liability
you're just going to lose a trade off
Itās not
and eventually lose the ball
So Iām guessing u donāt have good teammates
its a liability because people mostly use real basket in 2s
wouldnt I rather want to just dunk
instead of using a ball 2 pointer
and the other team could have snatch
they snatch me and we lose the ball
simple as that
Ur saying most thatās not really everyone so
ok
Could
No they donāt
im legend rank i would know
I see some 777
with the SOLE exception of 10% of players
most games you run into 2 players running real basket
or posterizer
Notice how u said most
And saying an awk is a liability is crazy
it really is a liability
i would rather use base venom over awk venom
jackpots awk is better than venoms
No Iām not Iām stating what u said
thats why people sometimes prefer it over venom
U would rather other people wouldnāt
Not a soul uses real basketball
2s
oh idk abt 2s i only run 3s
Ur just saying itās a āliabilityā in 2s
yes in 3s people use 777
Which makes no sense
or sum
i thought lazy worker and phy would be the best for 2s
its a liability
or rather
its horrible
Itās not
This just u Gng
This really just u
its not just me
you get rid of snatch for a cutscene 2 pointer that you need the ball for
and a stun that is close range
God of basketball is awk is lowk just the same as base kit but with a 3
yeah but look at this pov
everybody is using venom
Mid court dunk
in 3s
one person uses awk
that SOLE person loses snatch
so the other team could just snatch trade and gain possession
its just bad
idk what to tell you
Awk is not a liability thatās my opinion idk abt u tho
tell me why its a good awk
Not every player has venom so ur argument is irrelevant
^
everybody in higher ranks has venom
and your only argument is that some people dont have it
bro atp jst remove limiteds from ranked
No just no
ive given you actual game arguments
I see more lazy workers than venom
you've only given me hypotheticals
That only apply if ur opponent had real basketball or venom
its funny because snatch practically counters nagis shot move
i got both the zones spiderman and no venom
posterizer
its free
150 lucky spins deep
i will give you that some people dont have venom
Still ur main argument which is venom not everyone has
Donāt buy Chrollo or Tatlis if you respect OG Basketball Zero players. Itās more than styles; itās a symbol of their early commitment and grind. Let them keep their exclusivity.
Show your respect by appreciating its rarity, not owning it. Some things are better left untouched.
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Nah I have Tatlis
But Iām spinning for Chrollo
sbau iv been around since before perfection
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Ur saying it only applies if the opponent has venom and 2 specific zones im saying every style in the game and every zone
what does that have to do with
the awk being better or not a liability
its a liability
pack it up
Ur saying the venom will just snatch the ball im saying not everyone has venom
yes
Itās not and u pack it up
the awk is just bad
Itās not
its not good
venom is mainly good because of the snatch move
and you lose that in awk
Wait guys giant snatch is getting nerfed?
its just not that good
venom snatch
U get a close range stun and a pull and a free 2 pointer extra points for aura
thank god
Ya and that is getting nerfed
and all of those gets overshadowed by snatch
i will say tho the venom awk is lokw ahh but its better than spiderman
snatch has more range than parasite
venoms awk is good
And ur saying all the stuff I listed u only get for like 100 sec so?
2 free 3 pointers
base lmao
Snatch has 60 sec cd if u had it u only got one time to use it in awk
if snatch got nerfed i would use awk
me when venom steals mid awk cutscene uwu
i have 0 reason to use awk if the other team has snatch
or if i used snatch already
That makes no sense so would u use Chrollo awk or base
Awk is a liability since u lose the dribble
Iām saying ur point against u
It really depends on if you have possesion or not for 2s
Venom awk is not a liability clear
the awk itself is better than that one dribble
venom is mainly good
because of the snatch move
If you have possesion then yes awk venom would be preferred
and the awk removes that
If not, awk becomes a liability
if you have full possession
Heās saying if the opponent has snatch and 2 specific zones then itās a liability which is just not realistic
Like I said it depends if you are on offense or not
2s is really a wierd place where everything changes if ur on offense or defense
No itās not ts is just u
If ur on defense, being in awk is bad
use snatch then use awk
in 2s i would much prefer base venom
You'd want to stay at base for defense
over awk
Heās saying all around itās a liability in 2s and 3s
most of the time you will have posterizer or real basket
guys this is the spidey thread šš„
yes buff teamwork and iframes on sayhi
Awk is letās say 100 sec snatch is a 60 sec move they can only use it once when ur in awk
Really depends on the situation but I don't see the harm in getting a passive speed boost plus dunk range
buff say hi
Everything I said at the top buff it
Say hi should not require a ankle breaker
U just need to have the ball that is
Not everyone is using them 2 zones
Fr
in 2s?
most higher ranks have them bro
emp vision exist
80% of the time you will run into them
Oh high elo uses themš
Literally everyone
exactly
Yes some use 777 and cyber players use shock
777 never touching 2v2 ngl
who is using cyber in lets say champ ranks
Idk maybe someone with skill but thatās just me tho
you're practically begging to lose
ig a super good cyber
Like I'm not even gonna deny it, master+ ranked people only use real bbg
cyber is really fun
meh
its just you're at risk of just losing because you dont have the right kit
phy teleport self pass makes me bust
Cyber is super technical so I hardly see it while I'm on legend
same with star
Its just not competing with venom, or psychic
He lost me when he said itās useless in general in 2s and 3s etc
An awk is never useless
Its just useless if u don't have the ball that is
Heās saying it is
I get what he's saying tho
Rn ranked is so toxic that whoever has more venom snatch in a team wins
I mean his argument is saying that if people r using venom and 2 specific zones then its a liability
They tryna buff it Gng
They wanna make it be able to steal ordinary shot
Check poles
thats just power creep on psychic
Idc
Like wasnāt it op enough
Ordinary shot been too much of an annoyance
thats why they're removing the iframes of it
It can steal from that
Thatās literally the point of the move is so that abilities canāt steal it why would they go back on the original concept
I mean
Ordinary shot has so very little counters
I wouldn't mind it if venom snatch can atleast stop it
Itās literally the original concept of the move without itd be like a worse half court green
So its literal concept is to be a guaranteed 3?
And it aināt even half court more like 3 pointer
No the concept is that abilities canāt block it
Isnāt that just blocking itšššš
BRO WHEN CHROLLO NERF THE STUPID VENOM BRO, I WASTED 10 RANKEDS
Nah even better than blocking it giving u guranteed possession
How do u waste 10 rankeds
Its basically a frame one snatch block
Fr
But im sure the devs classify it as a steal
Anyways buff spider
So that's the excuse they're using
use jackpot
Oh
Meh idc
I'm ready to see the crybaby venom users all over the thread begging to get their braindead venom snatch back to its prime
Bro I missed out on the 2nd slot so anytime Iām tryna use a miracle or mythic I canāt
"This skill is so bad!!!! I can't even get the ball without someone coming up behind me to steal it"
If they keep venom like this only 1 style will be able to stop it
its still gonna be a really good move
Bro grind ranked
stealing from iframe dribbles will always be good
Its the way to get free slots
How
Just reach champ atleast
If I reach champ what happens?
You get free style and zone slot at the end of season
Fr?
Dead ah
I never saw that in any patch notes
Dude it's literally in gameš
Go check the rewards for ranked end of season
I'm pretty sure you get half of the rewards after reaching the rank
And then if ur still at that rank or above it by the end of the season
U get the rest of the rewards
Crazy never knew that time to grind Ig
Srry I meant time to abuse venom
Bruh my pc got taken tho so I can only grind on mobile and my brother is ahh
And my hb still aināt know peak
Oh dw, if u grind 2v2 it doesn't take much skill or effort
Time to hop in with venom and real basketball
Good luck sir
Or psychic
Ty
Abuse venom while u can
Yes sir
Aw hell nah my teammate is leaving his teammate wide open on a 3 and the lag is crazy
Who is voting no in the 1v1s bruh
i dont have lucky spins
unfortunate
Bump
Donāt buy Chrollo or Tatlis if you respect OG Basketball Zero players. Itās more than styles; itās a symbol of their early commitment and grind. Let them keep their exclusivity.
Show your respect by appreciating its rarity, not owning it. Some things are better left untouched.
Womp
Rarity doesn't mean better
Never
there is a bias that if a rarity is better, the style has to be
though if there was no such thing as snatch, flash would definitely be good
lock is still really good
Flash wouldn't
It's op
im thinking 2s really
flash is good in 2s
if its 3s I would say sniper and lock are pretty good
mythic 777 is literally considered the best zone rn too
Man I donāt give a FLIP, Iām getting tatlis one way or the other bruhššššš
Ok dude yorue blocke
youre getting blocked maybe
šššš
im not blocking yet i want to see ur answer fitrst
Never had you added soooš¤·š½āāļø blocking me over MY opinion is crazy
But l understandable
So do ur thing yowwww
Yoo
I'm still going for it
Why
I got it after
I just got venom AND chrollo
I was tryna get venom for days but gave up
And I was tryna spin for tatlis but got venom and chrollo
teamwork still needs iframe..
Ppl like psychic's awakening cuz it's just a free 7-ish points
Yes bruh
So ur argument means sniper can compete with emp
Still no spider buffs
Stop being bias
And yes
You can take sniper's balls to get iframes
How am I being biased
You saying higher the rarity = better
It literally is tho
Iām not saying it should Iām saying it is
Thereās a difference
And I'm saying it shouldn't
I never said it should ur just arguing for no reason
I mean it kinda sounds like you are
Iām saying it is not it should be
In the game rn sniper canāt compete with emp
Makes no sense reading this but ok
Thatās simple
Iām saying sniper canāt compete with emp not saying it shouldnāt
Do you or do you not know what iframes are?
yes tf it can
No it canāt
Yall being ridiculous
U wouldnāt want a sniper over a emp in ur team simple
Do you not know what iframes are?
yes I would
in 3s sniper could be amazing
bro
THANK YOU
Itās not better than emp right
way better
Quit dodging my question
Ts just u
especially in making plays
Ik what I frames r
Thatās why I made this suggestion
So spider can get
Then you should know that there is a sniper bug for iframes
no it isnāt
without emp reach itās useless
I mean sure you get to dribble
but what else?
ultimate pass?
So ur saying a bug makes a style better
pfffy
only thing i put emp over sniper is its reach and pass
Without a doubt
in 3s
Yes ultimate pass into a guaranteed 3 if u know how to play
guranteed 3?
oh no honey
oh NO
Bugs get patched that doesnāt make a style better
funny because sniper has a guaranteed 3 as well
It's not guaranteed in least they're dribbling
Not all bugs
No its easily blockable
No im pretty sure bugs like that get fixed
its easily blockable if you're bad
for you
buddy
do you know what
this magical mechanic
where you can fake out the shot
animalistic makes it unblockable
THEN
If ur argument is rn with the bug sniper can compete ill give it to u but im not talking about bugs im talking about overall
Not when they're not that known
use the ability
Still predictable and blockable
predictable my BUM bro
Like I said eventually theyāll get known so bugs donāt make a style better
R u 7
for the smallest frames you could probabbly block it
Eventually then yeah it will be considered a nerf
The slightest of iframes gives you an advantage
Removing a bug and nerfing the style r too different things
U act like one for sure
If u canāt predict it I think thatās what u call a skill issue
sniper and animalistic?
ā¦
I can
easily
predict it
I know YOU
canāt
I also
MAIN
sniper
2/10 bait
That combo honestly sucks
so Iām ragebaiting for saying a fact
humanity is
SO
cooked
A fact that I canāt predict a shot when u never seen me play hmmmm i think u might be below 7
i dont use sniper personally so i wouldnt know but i know it makes the 3 practically unblockable
smartest guy named khalid
idiot
Ur getting mad over a style in a game
how does someone
come to the fact that someone is 7
because of an opinion about a sports roblox game
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U can tell if someone is saying stuff like that
he doesnt play ranked, i wouldt put too much on him
yeah I can def tell
Called him mentally ill over being called a number that's madness right there
Whatever makes u happy u u want a lollipop with that
not playing ranked makes you have less of an opinion because you know less than the other person
skill ceiling in normals are almost always going to be worse than ranked players
I never said I donāt play ranked I was talking about my alt
W assumption
you literally didnt even know ranked rewards existed
Aināt no way u saying skill in bbz
yes skill buddy
say it with me
ready*
Not knowing they exist over not playing is 2 different things
S
Game's easier than candy crush relax man there's aim assist
Emp op now actually
I donāt even have empššš
It can emp reach dribbles
you mainly play ranked for rewards
????
thats fact
So?
ig some people want competitive play
We live in a world where we call literal bugs "buffs" š
how do you
NOT
know
they exist
It is technically a buff now
By clicking play
I didnt know they have style slots since I didnāt see it in any patch notes
it takes only 1 eye to see that ranked gives rewards
Y'all acting like he has to check rewards to play it's not that deep twin
its not that deep you're right
He overlooked something that didn't matter chill out holy moly
i reckon that if one plays ranked
and ranks up
they get rewards
so they wonder hm
what if I reach champ?
You missed the peak of venom brochacho
Holy how r u this invested in Roblox ranked
im not
heās not invested
thatās common knowledge
Glaze
im just not sure why you're denying the fact you arent a ranked player
if you arent a ranked player its not like im going to pull slurs on you
i honestly dont care
Never said I was I play the game for fun and play a lot so ik some stuff about styles and balancing
and people play ranked a lot as opposed to playing normals a lot
theres definitely a skill ceiling whether you dislike the word skill or not
Ranked is literally no skill so idk what u talking abt
and what're normals
if ranked is no skill what are normals
Never said they r
no no skills
exactly
if normals are worse you shouldnt have an opinion
The skill being running a busted team
just know that you will get a lot of feedback
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Awesome sauce
Ranked is skill??? Letās talk abt 2v2 just put op style and real basketball or posterizer now tell me thatās skull
Skill
backtrack
yesterday you were arguing about how some people dont have those styles or zones
now you're using them against me?
hypocritical much?
Even 777
Serious questing do u write down what i say
lwk stick to what u said yesterday
exactly
i swear this guy was arguing with me about 2s
and now hes using the same argument i was using
š š
alright alright, tell me, why my friend literally uses no good styles and no good zones and he still legend?
i mean legend isn't hard
but
still
Gng a lot of zones r op 777 real basketball posterizer limitless gold vision
vro
u said some people don't have it
i think it takes skill to win against styles that're braindead
what u on
somewhat skill anyway
YES
Gng I bet u one of em 777 is not op kids
psychic is definitely top 1 now that symbiote got a nerf
elaborate
true
but the concept of the suggestion itself is good
js the argument here doesn't make sense
I donāt need to elaborate
I donāt see any skill difference between ranked and normal
what rank are you
But maybe thatās me tho
no it makes sense that spider should be buffed
Idk
spider should definitely be buffed
Main or alt
ok, main
gngš
Legend
as if it wasnt commonsense i would like to know your peak rank
dawg you were complaining so much about 2s being clueless
and you're meant to tell me your legend
Ya
in 2s or 3s
2s is no skillā
Yes
If u look at the top of when the guy started it youād see
nvm you're just clueless
Everyone has opinions and if that is yours I respect
It
you clearly didnt respect my opinion yesterday lmao
its like arguing with a wall
Gng if u donāt wanna talk to me just go to another suggestion
just know its ok to admit when you arent doing something
Just know u can leave anytime preferably now
And donāt comeback
I might delete ts since no one on the team is seeing it
say hi is literally bugged cause as soon as u use it it can get stolen
also, venom snatch needs a nerf smh
Hopefully they buff spider soon
They just need to buff it or change the teamwork move aside from what @undone steppe said about balance changes the teamwork move takes so long to do and the person dribbling can just pass and now my teammate is at halfcourt
Bruh teamwork has such a long windup that I don't mind it having a guaranteed steal
If you see that coming and still decide not to pass
That would be fine honestly a guaranteed
You deserve to get stolen from
Thatās a great idea
Spider is so much worse than symbiotic
And the awakening is rlly mid why is almost every awakening move just a guaranteed dunk
Fr
The awakening is like an improved version of chrollo awk move
Since it scores
As for the buff move
Its really good as well
Being able to block and stop passes
Along with auto ankle break
Oh ya thatās a good move
That it lasts for a while but teamwork needs a guarenteee steal and say hi just sucks
They just need to get rid of the requirement of it needing a ragdolled person and give it some iframes then it's usable
And for teamwork give it guaranteed steal
Ya the venom move is basically say hi but no ragdoll
Since it can be easily countered with a pass
Its literally a perfect counter to ball hogs
I honestly don't know why you need to ankle break just to be able to use a dribble move
Thats like saying an enemy needs to get blocked first just to use a defense block move
Ya itās so dumb and especially that venom got the same move but no ragdoll
They made spider so bad for no reason
The spider vs symbiote is ssa
Fr
Spider need a buff symbiote design is ssa his ult move is good
i would say, it's nerfed version of Uncle Sam
because
or buffed, idk
it's have only 1 requemest, and scores 2p
Whatš
and this requemest ā ball must be not in someone possession
as long ball is not someone possession ā spider can score 2p by it
even by game start pass
just
rivals pass after your team scores, but spider spam move and scores 2p
ā
nerfed if used when Rivals pass (cuz it's 2p)
buffed if use for defense (cuz uncle Sam not stops ball from scoring)
Nah im just saying how is you saying spiders awk move is more like unc awk rather than chrollo awk
The first scene to spiders awk move is literally just like chrollos awk move
let's say, it's both uncle Sam and Chrollo
No it's more chrolloš
because he can use it's from Rivas pass ball at start of game
it's have inf range, and it's just need ball not be in possession
It only works on your side of the court
both chrollo and uncle sam in 1 skill
Dunno if u know that
it's work for all court
Nope just your side of the court
either
spiders you meet
just skill issued
or not known of it's
but spider can press skill like Nagi ult
and because of inf range
it's being like uncle Sam + chrollo
Gng it literally says going to your hoop
What do u not get about needing for it to be on your sideš
you never had see it ?
how spider use his skill of rival game start pass
Either way, u still need the ball to be up in the air
Unc sam doesnt need it to be like that
The enemy can have the ball and u can still use it
Thats the major difference between unc and spider
hm
Thats why im saying spider is more like chrollo not unc
i have see spider move being used like Nagi, and because of range
it's being uncle Sam + Chrollo
my friend got 0 fps, and he used his move cuz didn't know what was happening at field
and it's was our teammate 3p throw
and he was on his side of field
Its more towards chrollo awk
while 3p throw teammate was at another side
ā
spider ult move can be used like Lazy worker ult
/and he have inf range with only requemest ā ball being not in someone hands
Ye, the awk is such a downgrade š
Fr the event was just buns
bump
i got a clip of it
Spiderman's sense ability has no iframes. The opposing team can steal the ball back and the same goes for venoms steal. People are just crying because they were good styles so chrollo nerfed them.
Honestly give venom i-frames JUST on the ball not stealing through anything iframes, and give spider i-frames on the ball too and weāll be all good
That's what I'm saying. Give them iframes with the steal and Spiderman's snatch that's it.
Not true or anything only when they do a move that NEEDS iframes to be good.