#copycat buff
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nuh uh
like
lowkey lowkey
nerf copycat
bring psychic back
idk why they nerfed it
psychic was so buns
1/10 ragebait
like why doesnt confusion confuse the entire team
why cant u use ordinary shot from full court ?
totally balanced in my opinion
throw ball on wall and split second hit teleport and it'll ordinary shot instead from full
i have no idea why this made me think of greek gods basketball styles
god damn kratos style
zeus
posieden
no idea
pekka or megaknight
huh ?
after tatlis and chrollo update, copycat cannot copy any more new style
If u buff copycat I think u should make it so it can copy limited style cause rn it cant
getting snatch block or ace instinct dash
eh
not really
mixing up dribbles will make it difficult
The V moves are awful but the Z moves are strong/broken
The broken one being the pre nerf emperor reach
Which can goaltend
And the strong being the side step which is basically a free three
The optimal way of using spider is just using one of the side step uses first then saving the other use for pre nerf emperor reach
Every heard no dribbles?
how do u propose you make a ball loose
Defend properly
Don't have a skill issue
erm just attack properly then?
most useless points ever
limiteds are called limiteds for a reason
Jump and dive
It's about
dive
Half court for the distance
The new limiteds always coming out every 2 seconds are a nerf to him
Honestly I'd sacrifice burst to be able to copy limiteds
But then it wouldn't be copycat no more..
Exactly what this post is about
Bro chill
I want to see a team style release based off them
Sasuke and Naruto styles would go hard
He can copy spider though
imagine they make it so sasuke style has his rennigan ability where he can switch with the ball or something
even though switch is a move already
i think being able to switch the ball could be interesting
idk about that one bro
it's just balancing
And venom too
He can literally copy everything other than one single limited dude.
Perfection, bbg, cyber, psychic, sam
Bro idek itās weird how copycat canāt copy rubber
I agree
Thatās really odd why theyāre so specific on what you canāt copy.
But he can copy chrollo and tatlis š„
Like who wants to copy Sam anyways.
Im just letting you know bruh š
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Only reason i have copy cat ngl
My guy, thatās what Iām saying.
To copy chrollo cause i only have tatlis š„
You called me odd š
What? No I didnāt.
I said the specific styles you canāt copy is an odd pattern.
Deadaahh thought you was talking bout me twin mb
You know this community. Shi is not wholesome š
Dude actually though. People just go straight for the jugular lol.
Yeah sorry for assuming gng
Like in this post I suggested that you should be able to copy the limited styles that you own as long as they were on the court and they sent me a picture of the deformed Patrick star š
Nvm I just asked why it could copy chrollo or tatlis
Peak community
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why is it 50/50
u can copy chrollo tatlis spider
i forgot about symbiote idk yet
but the rest u cant?
like at this point u cant make up ur mind?
so kise cant have stretchy arms but he can blackflash
kise can make a car crash happen to make 3 points but he cant dribble like basketball god?
also ive seen a copycat copy psychic too i think
ive seen a copycat use teleport
so kise can teleport but not blink
got it
I agree he needs to be able to copy rubber but he shouldnāt copy limiteds
why?
guys im not saying it a 5th time
the move is 50/50
copy is 50/50
100% copy is 100% but restrictions
so in that case we can have stretchy arms but not cyber arms
take blr as an example, reo or now ig nel rep can only copy 1 tier above him. It makes it balanced because how is it balanced that a mythic could copy two tiers above him (sorry for bad grammar)
dont worry about the grammar
i know blr but blr is a failure
miro owns it now
animations more horrible than ever
true but, still
theres only 1 master class
compared to the 9 LIMITEDS
we have rn
and we can ONLY copy some of them
9 vs 1
70% the move goes through or 65
just like green
thats why i also thought of making a zone for copycat
to make him be able to copy limiteds
and no actual buff
except faster zone gain
fair but it should give other buffs
Bcuz then the zone would be useless without copycat
just mythic zone
and it gives like
faster speed off the ball
and extra dribble
so that they dont interfere together
its like reverse street dribbler
yay
Bump
Cc goodššš¶
nerf flowstep then he can copy whatever
ATP whatās the point in nerfing flowstep
Thereās 19 free steal moves in the game already
From mid air
Js bump him up to a miracle then have it happen
Yeah no
Like my hard to block layups
Just because other things are broken doesn't mean something else should stay broken
Doubt flowstep would actually get any nerfs tho
This game never nerfs anything major
At most it's a slap on the wrist
if u wanted an actual limited limited, you shouldve gotten perfection. oh wait, your not perfect though.š„
i mean sure but also flowstep lwk aint even that bad
it goes far and is able to juke opponents with its burst but like other then that it being omnidriectional doesnt make it better then other dribbles
just turn around
same thing
Cc isn't good bro
It is but ok
its def good
especially since it can copy spider and symbiote
this patch it is
before spider and symbiote it was p bad
I disagree it should be able a bit more limiteds and the 50/50 is so declining most people using limiteds you cannot copy
They always use limiteds you cannot copy for one and it's 50/50 and if the opposite team are running styles that are bad you have to copy and it's just random it feels like a gamble it's unbalanced a bit
ofc people are arguing abt this because bbz players love to gatekeep their 0 skill slop styles
Now that chrollo and tatlis are returning copycat will be way too op
This aged well
I got chrollo now lol
How are we even talking about a copycat buff bro
They literally added 2 new limited styles that can be copied
Along with Chrollo and Tatlis being released again
The only thing that I think they should do is make it so it can copy basketball god thatās literally it
Because the copying part is the only reason why it has any sort of use
The dribble sucks and you can steal from it
They probably fixed this but I've managed it a few times
The copying ability is fine its just how it can fend on its own
So initionally this was before the tat chro venom spider update
This was on like psychic cyber
And copycat was like actually useless at that time
So one of the ideas are
Making a zone for copycat and when activated
It let's u copy limited styles
Gives extra dribble
And offball speed
Nothing too out of the ordinary
But like before they was an limited inventory and alot of limiteds we couldn't copy
And we can't copy rubberman
Who is a miracle
Also it's fair for copycat to copy limiteds since most limiteds only have 1 good move
Excluding psychic
Let's hit 100š„
Yeah no cc is balanced
I think it should for sure be able to copy every style that isnāt a limited and if Iām being real it should be able to copy every limited out there but ig thatās not really balanced
It should 100% be able to copy basketball god tho
ānot balancedā gng if its unbalanced that says more about limiteds than it does copy
Oh itās no suprised that those limiteds be brain dead
Iām just sayin the devs aināt allowing copy to copy every limited
They know their styles are busted
So look
It's a 50/50 that we get the move we want
On the character we copy
If I copy perfection
I might get perfect dribbling
Which is absolute mid
And it has a 65s cd
The only style I think copycat should not be able to copy is perfection and thatās only to add to its exclusivity
Itās a style thatās never coming out again
Ig sure
People say u can't copy somethings that's copy
But we can copy todoš š
I bet the new limited they add wil just have a garunteed defensive move
Like it can take anything including ordinary shot
And has 0 downsides
Thatās the path the devs going down now
Fair and balanced are out the window
luffy is dead just by me at this point š
what some lil stretchy hands gonna do
its like on most limiteds u get a rlly good move or a meh move
example tatlis
colorized free ball
snap ig very situnational
5 away from 100 fire
Bump
Skill issue
Chrollo make styles like copycat viable again and then let taltis cook because you don't got it
Let's goooo
it's not a skill issue
copycat needs a buff
it can't copy most of the limiteds and the limiteds it can copy are all horrible besides chrollo and tatlis
most of it is 50/50 and you can't pick styles you wanna copy
I think we get a buff
I dont want to get cc copy psychic šššš
Copying tatlis and chrollo is litt enough
I mean make him copy other limiteds ults atleast
Just not psychic
Or just remove psychic from the game
Remove psychic base but keep the awakening
The awakening is funny
They could add a qte to copy limiteds
Clicking c then timing c
And then adding failed vfx if they failed it
what fun its op
if cc can copy psychic ult than copy psychic blitz i dont want his steal dunk
most limiteds people use are chrollo tatlis and venom
They are possibly making true power onball
Dw
I don't see as many chrollos anymore
After nerf
Creators dribble got rightfully nerfed
Tatlis will be op
Especially with the zone
Soon coming
Vampiric
Imagine guaranteed stealing and still getting a speed buff
Genuinely bamboozling
Stackable buff
3x stackable
still really good
like going 2x faster than speed dribble im guessing its so over š
whatever this game is cooked by balancing
It doesn't
Can copycat copy vampire?
I think so
Yep.
no we need the stupidly op limiteds to stay stupidly op
Hell no.
in the forsaken fandom btwš«©š„
Thats bs, js cuz im in the discord (which doesnāt even have a general chat) im part of the fandom??
kinda
yeah ngl cc is bad now
It's not exactly bad
ik but like
its not its best anymore
like the burst doesnt have much iframes
Hey hes a really good passer if a emperors on the court, copying ultimate pass then using it doesnt give copy a cd for some reason, so you can pass with iframes with no cd penalty (or just get emperor dribble and get past the opponent thats on u)
are you real lol
That's not guaranteed especially since the dribble sucks
bump
it can copy some limiteds not all of them
It canāt copy illogical ones because kise is meant to be good at copying basketball moves not things like teleporting and what not since heās good at basketball not being a god
Invalid argument
He can copy tatlis' moveset
One of them is a guaranteed steal with an axe/brush
Also isn't a basketball god
Its the man of basketball
Bump
Bro he can copy switch. He literally does not have cursed energy
Hn bro copycat is op if u say its bad thats just genuine skill issue
He can copy cursed dash
Which uses cursed energy
At times
Aka blackflashing
Which is even more illogical
So what's ur point
This post was made in the cyber/psychic update
Yk when u couldn't copy limiteds at all
What? I used that as an example because him not being able to copy a style because itās āillogicalā shouldnāt be a thing, since copying Switch is illogical too
Ooh mb
Illogical styles that cc can copy:
-switch, jp, emp, and star
Yeah thatās so stupid imo
Forgot a few other styles
Quick and lazy worker
he can copy ref too?
like he can become the ref
isnt that illogical too
or he can age in time to play like unc?
joker
dio? i think
he can copy dio rite
spiderman
venom
ghost
overthinking it yo...
So some style he can't coby some he can
yea
golem
Ref shouldn't have even added
But bc they have ref as a limited in tz, they thought it was a good idea to add it to bbz
Kise can do that
so kise can just play ref?
Checkpoint
let him be able to copy limiteds but make it atleast a chance
since he has the one who has a chance against "anyone"
bump
couldn't agree more
just doing my duty
Bump
I don't think copycat needs to copy everything, but I do think he does need a third move base kit in my opinion in order to keep it relevant
Flow step is pretty bad as soon as people realized you can just steal through it with timing. And the amount of uncopyable limiteds in the game really hurt the style
Now, what this third move should be? I do not know
I personally think it should roll through a select pool of styles and give you a random move from that style
"The only one who can stand against anyone," yeah bro, psychic took that title as soon as it dropped
he should
and it's 50/50
agreed
allowing copycat to copy everything would make it once again the best style in the game
has it been the best style ever???
and you want to know what happened when copycat was the best in the game? You couldn't copy anything because your games were mainly dominated by copycat users
very early on in the game's lifespan
i mean obviously when it came out
i think a solution would be to raise its rarity a tier.
It went from best in the game to one of the best when tatlis and chrollo styles dropped
no
why not??
miracle category is already bloated with nonsense
true
Plus miracle doesn't equate to being good
idk, i feel like itās a very different meta and game then when copycat was the best. now that there are a ton of limited characters i really donāt think copy cat would be the most used
neither does mythic
even if it could copy anything
Copycat would definitely be the best because you'd quite literally can return fire
to any style
Copycat started falling because it couldn't answer to every style
yes it would be good but would it be better than the limited characters that all of their moves are op?
cus copy cat would only be able to copy one at a time so i feel itād still be better to run the real thing
yes, you'd have infinite moves
but one at a time
cooldown reduction zones
again could be used on the original style
cooldown reduction zones + you can copy their counters
i think there are so many busted styles now that all their moves are op that having only one isnāt a big enough advantage to be the best
- counter them with their own style
? how is that op?
Not really true
or more importantly, how is that op compared to just using the original ALREADY op style
Because copycat was better than jackpot and giant for a while until limiteds started getting pumped out
yes WAS
Right, so imagine if copycat could copy every limited
It'd go right back to being the most used
i really really donāt think so
It would
i think the styles now are so good that having only one of their moves wouldnāt be the MOST used
as all these limited are still BETTER than copycat
Because considering what you said, jackpot should've been the best in the game, but it wasn't
so your telling me a rubber man is worse than a copy cat with one of their moves
rubberman is a weird case, I don't think that's a good example
or a luca is worse than a copycat with only one of his moves
How would that work with gear switch
Any of luka's moves + could just copy a better style than luka and shut it down
THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN
you canāt have a luca move and a BETTER move
And considering how some moves already have a weird interaction with copy, it'd probably be insanely broken
If more moves end up having that interaction
I wouldn't put it past a lot of moves to have the ultimate pass effect with copy
see but now we arenāt talking about balance, we are talking about bugs and weird coding
all of that can just be fixed or if the devs werenāt bad at their jobs
Considering how long it's been in the game, you can pretty much consider it gameplay
They're not going to fix it
you really canāt?
bruh
THEY CAN THO
IF THEY REWORK COPYCAT, THEY LITERALLY WOULD FIX IT
When have they fixed anything significant in recent times
Copycat needs to rework
That word be getting tossed around too much
so you donāt think copy cat needs a rework
No, buffs at the maximum
Rework only needs to happens to styles like sniper
and phantom
That serve zero purpose even if you tried
At least copycat can do something on the court + has infinite awakening possibilities
I disagree
cause it's not like
you can pick what you want on a move set
its 50/50
and perfection and basketball god and psychic and luka and cyber and a few more styles wouldn't hurt
and whatever else I left off
exactly
bump
bump, i played cc since release and now looking back, its terrible now. at least i can copy tat and chrollo but not any other limited
it NEEDS a buff
about time
all people in bbz community is hate 24/7
nobody with a decent mindset
Bump
yes I am
@foggy egret copycat can already copy annyoing styles as king and air and symbiote and tatlis
same with joker
it wouldn't hurt
yall get mad over everything
but for example
Back in May if perfection was out and copy cat would've copied perfection but not other styles y'all would say the same exact thing
man this community is so sensitive about everything dang thing š¤¦š½āāļø
it is 50/50
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people are still gonna spin for styles whether it can copy or not copy holy yap
this suggestion has 156 agrees
and 27 who don't agree
ur just hating
that would ruin the bbz game in general
and devs wouldn't do that
yes
copycat everything in the game
cause it's 50/50 you don't get the full base of move sets
y'all say this with ever style that copycat can copy
than people spin for it
okay maybe think properly
156 people agreeing with me btw
yes 100%
copycat can copy half limiteds and mythics and miracles with the game already being unbalanced it wouldn't hurt to add all them
perfection dribble counter
same with blink
cyber no comment it's so obvious
psychic teleport could be a problem the teleport pass not a problem the shot is easily counterable and confusion is nothing
same with luka only problem is the freezes but it happens
tatlis has a a guaranteed steal move
joker has a dribble and a wildcard move
king and air are the worst two duos no comment explained
and if I bring up chrollo this debate is over
YET COPYCAT
Can copy them
still not a problem
you have defensive movesets in the game dude even with his dribble move flowstep it's the same thing chrollo dribble and flowstep no excuse
psychic would be a problem cause of the teleport and the shot move but just time the shot nobody uses teleport for anything besides loose balls sometimes to score but you can read
you have so many defensive movesets
yet ur complaining
YES
ur new to bbz
Clearly
im definitely not
I played right when giant came out
oh no I don't do 1s
I do 2s
we can do 2a
2s*
do 2s
well
I'm waiting
cause 1s mean nothing in a team based game you can't do nothing with 3 dribbles and cooldowns
okay fine
u wanna do that
bet
half n half than
2s and 1s
than we combine the points
good duck
good duck
I reached champ before in 3s and diamond before in 2s
so I can care less
I just did you a favor we can do half n half my and ur terms
u ducked
156 people are idiots because they want change to happen in a style that wont even cause harm to
nice logic
well
I think I just lost brain cells
156 people btw
LOL
like
before these other limiteds copycat was already coping 90% of the game
they still spinned for styles
such as lazy worker
rubberman
what else
what about real basketball
he is straight mid
u gonna say he's op to
watch him
real basketball is garbage
same with luka
same with cyber
only styles are psychic perfection that would be spammed badly...
I just gave you valid reasons
YOU
nobody uses cyber anyways
its garbage
there is a reason why psychic is more used than cyber
these new gens need to stick to the script
YEAH AWK
not base
lol
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which is copy off the limiteds I name which would not be a factor nor a problem
like cyber shot move is predictable steal move garbage auto move garbage
everything about him is bad
besides awk
If you have a problem losing the people with crappy limiteds I advise you find another game
"copycat copying cyber"
LOOOL
the worst limiteds to
lucky Uncle Sam is worse
everyone knows it isn't good
psychic has been better than cyber from the jump
we can go into questions rn
u gonna get proved wrong
156
156
155
156*
can u read?
people are on my side
156
read
you haven't gave me a single valid reason yet
well
probably psychic
but that's the only one
perfection doesnt count either
whatsoever
yes I have most the styles that copycat cant even copy are garbage 10% are decent enough
yet you still crying
you mentioned copycat copying cyber
are you okay?
it is a bad style in general
thats the truth
of course
do I even try to fight this š¤
you know you can shoot pump and pass to a open man in pro servers
dash move isnt reliable against a person with actual IQ or unless you catch a person slipping but not gonna be reliable ace dash move is just for loose balls and blocks and cyber implant is predictable
cause it counters cyber attack move
and cyber attack move is easy to counter
cyber isnt even a factor to be even talked about
I only brought it up cause you complained about cc copying it
Only valid thing you said was perfection in psychic which I will say this im pretty sure it would be annoying but bbz players would adapt even with the on ball variant and mobility with flowstep
^^
flowstep and ordinary shot would be a broken combo but it could be blocked if studied and timed
I mean
copycat can already copy king and air
and tatlis
which are 3 worst spams
ngl if Copycat is able to copy a guy taking out a literal paint brush on the court then I don't see why he shouldn't be able to just copy all limiteds
than you guard all the outside once perfection dribble is used you move up they go for another they move back
the style isnt gonna reach miles deep
this game is unbalanced
it would not hurt to add it
yes it is with defensive movesets in the game
and wouldn't people copy blink to?
they can goal tend as well
ur gonna make another excuse
fight it
^
ik to counter the dribble and flowstep on cell
it would counter that
psychic teleport move would counter it
air
silver
giant if placed
star
in pro servers its all out spams
u not making sense
same with ran
rank*
pro servers are just worst
If you're talking about normal servers then you might be on to something
But nobody plays in normal servers
bot lobbies
joker can counter it as well
they might not use flow all the time
tbf not everyone has the time to grind 35 levels in a braindead basketball game
and still have time
you dont play in pro servers clearly rank games are dead normal servers too
everyone went to pro servers
yes I play in pro servers
still braindead
and with all the styles and people playing per update with vip and the game evolved I'm pretty sure people got there
4/10 ragebait
but yeah pro servers are always more full but it doesn't surprise me
and ranked is just annoying so that's prob why no one plays it
FINALLY
u see my point
which is why pro servers are more chaotic
and this man is saying copycat would cause harm
when pro servers are chaotic
At least* we can agree unc needs a nerf
they need to do smth abt ranked because ive genuinely never had a more unpleasant experience in a basketball game
they need to add style banning
in rank
im sick of spams
fr bro im tired of seeing tatlis and uncs
same with zone
the moment I hop off Tatlis to try and have fun with another style I get destroyed
it aint funny bro
and they need to make 2s full court like how a game is played in a normal server
ik and they genuinely need to do smth abt that because it just makes the game unsufferable rn
fr perfection on release was crazy but it doesn't compare to chrollo, tatlis or symbiote on release
this might be the realest thing you could have ever said
symbiote and tatlis on release were genuinely devils
fr everyone was voting chrollo
when you could use freeze off ball
that thing was insane
and then they fixed it and now he's just alright
before the nerfs tatlis has a snap defensive and offensive and colored strike was just pain too
fr
snap off ball wasn't even funny bro
with chrollo its just shooting 3s back but it wasn't as bad as tatlis
I genuinely played like 3 games of the summer event and gave up
it was hell for anyone who wasn't able to roll chrollo or tatlis
actually just tatlis atp
debatable
she's mid yeah
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they should just rework the move where she slows down everyone on the opponent team because it's insane
but besides that I agree Miku is balanced
doesn't matter
miku has that annoying move
that slow you down
that crap needs a nerf
most balanced limited rn imo is Vampire
words cannot describe how annoying that is
I'd say Ghost or Spider are worse honestly
uncle sam idk can't say much cuz I never got him
that move is like the only thing keeping him alive rn
remove that move from his moveset and you'll see that the 3 ghost mains alive are all gonna disappear
out of body is fun honestly
you aint missing out on much she aint even that fun imo
yeah true
remove soul stings for a new move than Miku is great
and honestly I still like it just cuz it's Miku and Miku is goated
Luka was terrible
Luka doesn't even need infinity man
that would be insane
ever since I got psychic and king
luka illusion would be uncounterable
king is good bro
black market is peak bro
LOL
im so glad they came out with a zone that can block unblockable dunks king zone all kids did was spam unblockable dunks in 2s ranked
that would be cool but honestly I love the current cutscene we have for it already
fr bro
every game it's just real basketball
real basketball god zone was actually peak to
people over look this
really bad
I kept mine
fun fact
real basketball is my number one zone
I use
@foggy egret
you play 2s right?
Honestly
I'm not asking for a big buff
I want that "he has a chance against everyone" to become true
I'm fine if he can't copy perfection then
Cuz people say u can't copy perfection to be perfect
They could add a zone like I mentioned
To make urself be to copy all styles except perfection
At the end of the day, it is still a 50/50, to get the move u desire
Except if the style has 2 good moves
Now imagine copycat in an uncopyable lobby (e.g ranked)
Would u give him random moves or make him a 1 move wonder?
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Copycat is great, i stopped using it because 80% of matches were with people using styles i couldnt copy
(i can only use one ability)
copy should be an off-ball ability
on-ball you should have something else
mobility or shooting skill
so it's a little more useful without relying on opponents
copycat just needs more leeway to stand alone
Bump
bump
bump
Greenlit zone btw
So it canāt copy some of the most monstrous styles that it had no reason to be able to copy, that makes sense, matter of fact, rework its copy move to work similarly to try 100% copy but with restrictions, and for the base moves only
I guess
But it will just be broken with certain moves
Infinite zone generation for your team if you copy an emp
And you were guaranteed to get emp pass
fix the emp bug and give copycat free will š„