nerf luffy

[tawdry sail]

Fair point

[red widget]

Toxic over what?

[tawdry sail]

I'm just gonna send som pictures I found

[red widget]

It's called getting pissed

Ever heard of it?

[red widget]

I've been pissed since my dad picked me up from practice

What you think

[balmy dawn]

this still doesn’t excuse you being toxic

[tawdry sail]

Why?

[red widget]

Being stupid will make it better?

[red widget]

Not being toxic

[balmy dawn]

gang

[tawdry sail]

What did the father do?

[balmy dawn]

you’re mad at a screen

words on a screen

are you sure you don’t need like, some time to relax?

[tawdry sail]

I think they gone

Well then.

Nevermind...

[red widget]

We can't be deaduzz 💀💀💀

[tawdry sail]

Question

[balmy dawn]

God forbid im making sure you don’t need time to relax?

[tawdry sail]

Why are yiu mad after being picked up from pratice?

[balmy dawn]

like what do you gain out of insulting someone who isn’t being toxic to you?

[red widget]

I'm trying to before you being stupid

[balmy dawn]

yo you should chill out before a mod comes in here

like close app, take like however much time you need then come back

[red widget]

Sthu please

[balmy dawn]

?

like what’s your problem?

[red widget]

You

[tawdry sail]

How did this argument happen in a suggestion place to neef luffy

[red widget]

And people

[tawdry sail]

nerf

[balmy dawn]

truth be told, idk

i’m chill, he’s the one that’s angry 💔

[tawdry sail]

Imma scroll up to see

I figured it out

It came from blocking passes.

[red widget]

No duh 💀💀

[tawdry sail]

Well from what I gathered in the last 10 seconds

[balmy dawn]

which everyone knows is possible

@molten coral someone is being toxic

[red widget]

Regularly

[tawdry sail]

True but some moves cant be block like psychic pass and golds.

[balmy dawn]

i told them to chill out, get off the app and take a breather but they just keep going :/

[tawdry sail]

Just take a break.

Please

[red widget]

Also just pump or shooting passes

[balmy dawn]

i said the same thing

[tawdry sail]

Please just take a break it's not much.

[red widget]

"Keep going" you continuing

[balmy dawn]

mind you, i said you can go and come back when you’re ready

[balmy dawn]

^

[red widget]

It's considered instigating atp

[balmy dawn]

i was being serious btw

[tawdry sail]

Pup burrito

[balmy dawn]

like we can continue this when you aren’t pissed off dude

[red widget]

This coulda ended when I asked for a clip

[tawdry sail]

True

[red widget]

You instigates

[tawdry sail]

But I don't think we record while playing the game.

[red widget]

You're the one at fault

[balmy dawn]

very fair point

[balmy dawn]

i’m the one at fault?

[red widget]

Use medal

[balmy dawn]

clearly i’m in control of your emotions?

[tawdry sail]

What's medal?

[red widget]

Clipping software

[tawdry sail]

Oh I play on consle.

[balmy dawn]

like if you KNEW practice wasn’t going well, why would you open discord and head into a suggestion where you know someone is gonna disagree with you?

[tawdry sail]

Which I can record on there but I don't want to since it takes up too much space.

[red widget]

Even yet clipping is still possible

[balmy dawn]

i’ll get you your clip tomorrow

like it can’t every be this serious big dawg 💔

[tawdry sail]

Alright we'll all meet back here at 4pm. How about that?

[balmy dawn]

4pm EST?

or PST?

[tawdry sail]

Umm est I think

[balmy dawn]

because PST would be 7 my time

[balmy dawn]

great, i can do that

[tawdry sail]

Perfect then does the other person agree?

Alroght see yall torrmrow

[red widget]

I frames on styles is serious

[tawdry sail]

Question you est or pst?

[balmy dawn]

but you dragged it

[red widget]

Cst

[red widget]

Bc it's serious

I frames are annoying to deal with

[tawdry sail]

CST umm what time is it for you?

[red widget]

10:05

[tawdry sail]

Oh we same time then

Alright meet back here at 4pm torrmorow and vale gonna be here at 7 because he pst

[red widget]

Istg

If I see him blocking a regular pass

[balmy dawn]

i’m est

[red widget]

I will crash the hell out

[balmy dawn]

over words on a screen btw

[tawdry sail]

Wait then what time is it for you rn vale?

[balmy dawn]

11:07

[tawdry sail]

Ok then come here at 5pm because that when it will be 4pm for us.

[red widget]

No for stupidity

I hate when people act stupid

Extremely

[balmy dawn]

you came here of your own accord btw

[tawdry sail]

Alright so we just gonna drag this out...

[red widget]

Sthu

[balmy dawn]

he’s the only one that’s angry 😭

[red widget]

Instigating

Btw

[balmy dawn]

i’m instigating by stating the truth?

no one forced you to be here 💔

[tawdry sail]

True

[balmy dawn]

in fact, i said you can leave and cool off

[tawdry sail]

You could've left but decided to stay

[balmy dawn]

then come back when you’re in a better mood

[tawdry sail]

What vale said

Alright so vale come back here at 5pm because it will be 4pm for us alright.

[red widget]

You even know what instigating is

💀💀

[balmy dawn]

by stating the truth?

YOU came here of your own volition, no one actively provoked you :/

[red widget]

You continued though

[balmy dawn]

false

[red widget]

False?

[tawdry sail]

I dont even know what instigating means...

[red widget]

We dead serious?

[balmy dawn]

yes?

[tawdry sail]

Imma look it up

[balmy dawn]

need i gather proof that YOU contributed?

[red widget]

To incite them

Or

[balmy dawn]

continued*

[red widget]

Encourage or stir up

[balmy dawn]

i did the exact opposite

[red widget]

At the end

[tawdry sail]

Wait so your just encouraging him to continue cause now I'm feeling like there someone pulling strings

[red widget]

Inciting

[balmy dawn]

you literally agreed with me when i said “you can close app, take however much time you need then come back”

[red widget]

You just criminalize yourself

[tawdry sail]

Yeah sorry

[balmy dawn]

i was being serious?

[red widget]

💀💀

[red widget]

If someone is already pissed

[tawdry sail]

I just confused myself

[balmy dawn]

@tired heart

[balmy dawn]

you chose to come here knowing someone was gonna disagree with you

[red widget]

What is the better idea
A. Continue talking to them
B. Stop talking so it doesn't stir up any more conflict

[balmy dawn]

how am i at fault if you came here knowing an argument was bound to start?

[tawdry sail]

Not tryna be rude but it's funny how this entire thing happend over blocking passes.

[balmy dawn]

C. tell the person the can come back later

i chose option C

[red widget]

It's one of the 2

[tawdry sail]

Same

[balmy dawn]

i’m sorry i wanted to pause the debate?

[tawdry sail]

Well we choose the unspoken answer.

C

[red widget]

Be realistic

[tawdry sail]

Fine

[balmy dawn]

you know both answers apply to you too, right?

[red widget]

Who will "come back later" once they are already pissed off? Thats just going to make it worse

[balmy dawn]

like this isn’t a one way street

[tawdry sail]

True

[balmy dawn]

any person who doesn’t wanna get more pissed off?

[tawdry sail]

Cause streets have 2 sides the back and the front.

[balmy dawn]

i love how you’re just here having fun

[tawdry sail]

I am.

You can go back to calm down to come back or go to the front to continue down the street

[balmy dawn]

fr

[tawdry sail]

Wair then that would make the back the front...

[balmy dawn]

😂

[tawdry sail]

Cause the street never ended at the back

[balmy dawn]

bro might be muichiro

[tawdry sail]

Why?

[balmy dawn]

muichiro confuses himself a lot

[tawdry sail]

Oh

[balmy dawn]

and i just found it kinda funny

[tired heart]

hi

[tawdry sail]

Oh your one of the moderators right?

[balmy dawn]

so, the person with a question mark in his name is being rather toxic when both of us told him he can take time to cool off

i have proof if i need to show it

[tawdry sail]

I'm currently a witness. But I take vale side with this cause the person was being mean.

[red widget]

Ig I am at fault 🥀🥀💔💔

[tawdry sail]

Also since your back can I ask a question.

[tawdry sail]

Why were you made after pratice?

Did something go wrong?

[balmy dawn]

you admitted to being mad?

[balmy dawn]

^

[red widget]

I admitted to being more than just "mad"

[tawdry sail]

Found this and love it

[balmy dawn]

so i’m at fault for stating the truth

?

[tawdry sail]

No

[red widget]

What truth

[tawdry sail]

For saying your mad.

[balmy dawn]

i didn’t know stating the truth makes me evil

[red widget]

You saying I'm being toxic when I just frustrated which will of course provoke the situation

[tawdry sail]

It dosen't

[balmy dawn]

then why would you come to discord of all places?

[tawdry sail]

Why are you fustrated?

[tawdry sail]

Please just answer why your frustrated please.

[balmy dawn]

this whole situation could’ve been avoided if you opened the conversation with

“yo, i had a bad day, ill continue this tomorrow”
or
not coming here in the first place

[red widget]

To talk, but then you decided to correct a fact in which I asked for proof for since I know these methods have ifeames

[balmy dawn]

so you came here to to talk, but you’re pissed off?

[red widget]

We talking about 2 prior generations or...?

[balmy dawn]

do we not see how this is a recipe for disaster?

[tawdry sail]

Imma get a snack brb

[red widget]

I came on here to look at a few of my hundreds of notifications

So they don't go unanswered

[tawdry sail]

Can you tell me why you were mad after pratice?

Cause I'm just trying to get to the bottem of this.

[balmy dawn]

if you came here to look at notifications, which i don’t blame you, we all do it, why would you reply knowing you’re pissed off?

especially to a topic you know has controversy

[red widget]

If it's not obvious already, I don't want to talk about it

[tawdry sail]

Oh ok

[balmy dawn]

then just come back tomorrow

[red widget]

Can you read above a little

Please?

[young bane]

what is happening here 😭

[red widget]

Use your eyes a little

[balmy dawn]

basically, i said luffy needs some i-frames on his block to make it somewhat useful, and it spiraled from there

[young bane]

bro ez solution

go outside breath air

it will fix all problems

trust

[tawdry sail]

Change name this is a conversation that no one included you in. But this is public so yeah read a little of this and it'll make sense

[red widget]

I am allergic To the green stuff

[young bane]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gorilla-stare-fart-funny-gif-3906465915051930418

[tawdry sail]

Nevermind welcome to this conversation change name.

[red widget]

Lolll

[balmy dawn]

i’ll just let the mod(s) handle it from here

i’ll continue this tomorrow

[tawdry sail]

Alright see ya later vale

[balmy dawn]

good day to all of you

[red widget]

Dipping on something he caused 🥀🥀

[tawdry sail]

Good day to you too.

[balmy dawn]

you continued while being pissed even after we said go take a breather

[young bane]

i said breath air not breath whatever green stuff you think about

[balmy dawn]

but sure

[red widget]

Bro, you still instigated so idrc

[tawdry sail]

Just go outside and look at the night and think. Why am I here.

[red widget]

I am allergic to gr*ss

[balmy dawn]

i instigated by stating the simple truth that you’re the only person that’s mad?

[tawdry sail]

Wait what

How in the world are you allergic to grass.

[balmy dawn]

you said you were pissed btw 💔

[red widget]

Iykyk

[red widget]

Form of instigating

[tawdry sail]

Well someone here has a good excuse to not touch grass. Congrats.

[balmy dawn]

stating the truth is instigating? 😭

[tawdry sail]

No this is instigateing

[balmy dawn]

i did the opposite 💔

WE did the opposite

[tawdry sail]

You you trying to calm things down

[balmy dawn]

but good day to all of you

[red widget]

Theirs other forms fyi

[tawdry sail]

Oh I didnt know

Sorry

[red widget]

And stir up may include a lot of things

[tawdry sail]

Ok well I learned a new thing today and more.

[young bane]

guys man up its not that serious

its just a suggestion channel

no one cares

[tawdry sail]

It is serious

To us that is

[young bane]

no its not

[red widget]

I take I frames seriously

[young bane]

iframes for what

[red widget]

😡 😡 😡 😡

[red widget]

Luffy

[young bane]

luffy doesnt need iframes

[red widget]

Exactly

[young bane]

style will become beyond braindead style

[tawdry sail]

He has iframes...

[balmy dawn]

specifically, gum block

[young bane]

he probs talking about block

yeah

[tawdry sail]

Oh

[balmy dawn]

let me explain

[young bane]

it doesnt need it def

[tawdry sail]

Welcome back vale

Tbh I prefer using the defense

[red widget]

No need

[balmy dawn]

i never said it needs full i-frames like venom

[tawdry sail]

Cause I play defense more then offense

Tbu spiderman need iframes .

[balmy dawn]

i’m just saying something that’s enough to have it scrape by

[red widget]

You do know what I frames are right?

[balmy dawn]

still, the block just needs something that can prevent it from getting stolen

that’s all i want for luffy

[red widget]

Thats game breaking

Look at lock

[young bane]

why would you want an easy to use block to have barely any counter play

gum block is easy to use

[tawdry sail]

Spider needs iframes cause people can steal the ball while your using the move hi

[young bane]

no thinking required

you see ball fly

you press

you take the ball

[balmy dawn]

i also suggested if it can’t get i-frames, have it slap the ball in a random direction

[red widget]

I think its a bug

[red widget]

Gold d

[balmy dawn]

makes it less useless since it isn’t gonna always get stolen

[young bane]

i mean gum slap already can outrade abilities

[tawdry sail]

Oh ok they are doing a qol update this week so hope so

[young bane]

such as post form

and pump fakes

and jump shots

[red widget]

Which like 4 styles can do

Excluding luffy

[young bane]

well emp has a dribble others have dribble

what now

gum slap is a nice bonus

its balanced niche ability

that is good at what its doing

[tawdry sail]

Yeah

[red widget]

Fr

[balmy dawn]

still it feels kinda underwhelming for a miracle

[tawdry sail]

Which part of him?

[red widget]

It doesn't have to be op

[young bane]

there shouldnt be stuff like "miracle" being more powerful than rare style

[balmy dawn]

i’m not asking for it to be op

[young bane]

higher rarity should mean more versatile

style

[red widget]

Ily man

[young bane]

with more flashy

abilities

and more unique mechanics

[balmy dawn]

i’m just asking for it to not have a block that can just be stolen

[tawdry sail]

What style do yall main?

[balmy dawn]

basketball god

[young bane]

i love clutch fetch and emp

[red widget]

Jp/fetch

[tawdry sail]

Noice

[red widget]

My man

[young bane]

fetch peak

[red widget]

Youre my new pookie ong

[young bane]

whoever voice acted

fetch

bro says 3 words

has one of the best auras

i see prey

[red widget]

Ong

[red widget]

That didn't age well ngl

[tawdry sail]

Well I'm glad this whole situation now delt with I'm heading to sleep.

[red widget]

Same ngl

[tawdry sail]

Ballerina.

Me no like

[tawdry sail]

Hello

[still kernel]

Luffy is fine, not super strong cuz his shot snatch can be stolen for a short period after it was used

And slap very rarely actually lands

[tawdry sail]

True

[balmy dawn]

hello

[still kernel]

Although the Style is completely useless considering it can be stolen

(Forgot how bad it is when it gets stolen)

[hearty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

switcher is still pretty solid and gold is too

emperor's reach would be too if it didn't have bugs

(rubberman is worse than switcher btw)

[balmy dawn]

out of the miracles, rubberman is the worst

[hearty sable]

What’s holding rubberman the most is his grab being stealable but I heard that you can pass instantly after getting it

But I never tested it out or anything

Nah nvm

I was abt to say It might be emperor but remembered ultimate pass

[balmy dawn]

that’s also false

you can’t pass, the recovery frames + end lag prevent that

so you have 2 options;

1. be far enough to not get it stolen but close enough to block the shot

2. pray the opposing team doesn’t know rubberman has no i-frames

[hearty sable]

Alr then rubberman is the worst miracle

[red widget]

No duh

[keen merlin]

u can pass immediately em after gum block i do it every time xD

maybe it’s just a mobile thing but i can def pass during the end lag

[balmy dawn]

gotta be a mobile thing

because there’s no way 😭

[dusky nest]

Yeah it prob is its the same with snatch some people are able to pass immediately after

Idk how they do it its gotta be a bug

[red widget]

Pass button

[dusky nest]

No they pass before the move is even over

[dusky nest]

Cause both moves have end lag after you grab the ball you cannot pass during that time

[red widget]

I'm talking about mobile

[dusky nest]

Yeah its probably a bug on mobile

[subtle willow]

I think you mean nerf Symbiote

[dusky nest]

Wait he thinks slap= Gold's pressure

LOL

Bro did not play against pressure

[red widget]

Fr

[rancid fjord]

You mean braindead skill-issued people who depends on unbalanced op flashy styles

[red widget]

Lolll

[stable solar]

Luffy isn't even that bad to go against. The only op thing about him is being able to snatch shots out of the air for free.

[dusky nest]

Then you get the ball stolen from you immediately after

[stable solar]

It has endlag?

[hollow hazel]

Due to bad positioning

[dusky nest]

Positioning doesn't matter you're stuck for a long time where the person that shot as long as they react can just run up and take it

[dusky nest]

A lot

[stable solar]

I just assumed it had i frames, so I never tried to steal

[hollow hazel]

you just described why positioning matters

[stable solar]

Anyways, luffy feels balanced to go against

[dusky nest]

I described why it doesn't matter cause the move has too much lag anyway for positioning to matter

[stable solar]

All that he has for movement is that super predictable anti-steal

[stable solar]

You can ignore positioning with steal skills

[dusky nest]

Realistically you probably get away with gum block once amd once you've been identified you will never get it off again

Everyone will be looking at you

[stable solar]

I've seen Todo users slide in from half court to land the black flash, so I'd say he is a much bigger problem

And he has two ults

[dusky nest]

Shhhh

[stable solar]

They just gave his slide the range of prime chrollo

[dusky nest]

Leave switcher alone

Let people keep thinking the style is bad

[red widget]

It's not bad though

Switcher is one of the best styles

Makes giant op

Not many pub players know how to counter it

[hearty sable]

yeah rubberman got powercrept in a week 😭

[lofty lark]

this was day 1 of release he was op then but exactly how you said he got powercrept instantly

🙏

[tawdry sail]

Peanut

[red widget]

He got powercrept by giant

Lwky

Giant became instantly better once switcher post form tech was found out

[hearty sable]

I meant it like he got powercrept by symbiote

-can grab the ball with iframes
-auto dribble
-pretty good dribble
-a dash
(symbiote)

-can grab the ball but get stolen instantly
-useless gum slap where they can get the ball again with that mid range
-a noticeable auto dribble
-a really blockable shot
(rubberman)

[balmy dawn]

💔

[balmy dawn]

a very noticeable auto dribble*

[hearty sable]

yeah I forgot about that

wait symbiote doesn't have iframes anymore right?

[balmy dawn]

only if you’re trying to steal and not block

still more useful than luffy 😭

[balmy dawn]

this isn’t really conclusive, but i meant that it isn’t just…totally invincible, it can be dribbled

[silent igloo]

we still talm bout some nerf luffy?

the style that gets easily countered

[balmy dawn]

i’m saying

[tepid spear]

Bump

[red widget]

Sad

[manic sky]

buff luffy

I love the style but it's too bad.

[wispy terrace]

its fine btw

[quartz robin]

Luffy is still good

[elfin comet]

He sucks

[silent igloo]

Luffy some ahh the people who think it needs a nerf just don't know how to play the game good

[tranquil relic]

Bro luffy has a shot that has a chance to break and a stealable block 😂

[elfin comet]

The block can have iframes if used right and this was made on the upd

[tranquil relic]

Mind telling me? Used to main rubberman

[elfin comet]

jump as you use it

not hard to do

literally best style in 2s

AND NO THOSE CRITICS SAYING TATLIS IS IS WRONG

[slender trellis]

gng

why we needa nerf luffy

its pretty balanced

[tranquil relic]

I did that and still got stolen do you gotta time it or some

[elfin comet]

kinda

[elfin comet]

this old

here ill go in pubs to show

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/lNMdgymuQfRlAaPbN?invite=cr-MSxEUkgsMjEwNzM1NjQ3&v=5 https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/lNMdgymuQfRlAaPbN?invite=cr-MSxFRjYsMjEwNzM1NjQ3

@tranquil relic