Please rework emperor

[tulip relic]

only bad thing about emp is the reach

rest is fine

[earnest merlin]

Cyberpunk SFX aren't really my thing

[granite walrus]

Right

[sleek galleon]

My own teammate catches my own ball with emperor reach 😭

[mortal gyro]

Right??

But to be honest this thread may be a skill issue, emperor is perfectly fine even in ranked

[sleek galleon]

Idk how thats possibe

Fr

All it needs is an animation remake cus the cutscene makes the ball not go in 😂😂

[mortal gyro]

bro don't even get me started, enemy emperors take the ball off of me when I'm just dribbling

[mortal gyro]

And for me half of the time there is no opponent falling down hahahaha

[sleek galleon]

Fr😭😭

[sleek galleon]

Lol

[mortal gyro]

literally emperor is still easily top 3

[sleek galleon]

Ye

[earnest merlin]

Not really

Not without being bugged

[delicate cloud]

Make emperors reach consistent and then it's fine

[earnest merlin]

And yet bug abuse is bankable

[mortal gyro]

can block all of the hardest shots, can force the second hardest shot to block in the game, emperor dribble is the best two step dribble after chrollo and maybe copycat

[earnest merlin]

Cc isn't a dribble

[delicate cloud]

Yea but reach is js weird

[mortal gyro]

is forced shot still the second hardest after ordinary shot?

[earnest merlin]

It's more of a dash

[delicate cloud]

Cc is dribble?

Oh

Flowstep into burst

[mortal gyro]

yeah

[delicate cloud]

Ig yea it's a dash

[earnest merlin]

See

[delicate cloud]

Possible to dribble regen tho

Just slightly harder than emp dribble

[earnest merlin]

Cc burst isn't useful in least you going for the dunk or layup

[delicate cloud]

It's useful for dribble regening

If ur that egoist like me

[earnest merlin]

Loll

I'm a mix of both

[delicate cloud]

Q 3x emp dribble drive q 3x v v q 3x awakening q 3x v v q 3x 100% copy chaos/jackpot, pass to mate use chaos/jackpot then request for pass q 3x awakening dunk

What yall think of this unemployed combo

[earnest merlin]

No

Gold

And jp

With jump abilities

[delicate cloud]

BTW that's without zone

So if ur running 777 u can get 5 dribbles

So that's like 30 base dribbles

Also if there's a chrollo in ur lobby then even better

ALSO

They silently nerfed chrollo

Like they did not write this in the balance logs

Either lewi forgot

Or they didn't wanna tell the Lil kids

[earnest merlin]

What they do

[delicate cloud]

All in all, I'm happpy

[delicate cloud]

The dribble goes slightly less of a distance

It's slower too

And has less iframes

Like they actually balanced it

Now u need brain to use it or else u get stolen

Next is colorized steal..

[earnest merlin]

Uhhh I am not sure about that one

Emp need a massive buff to be in the meta

The Meta literally is gold jp and psychic

[wide fox]

this doesn’t mean emperor needs a buff it just means these styles need to be toned down

emperors kit is completely fine

[earnest merlin]

No it's not

Ima be honest

The dribble is mid

And the reach needs to be consistent

[wide fox]

the dribble is good depending on your use of it

and reach is a little janky but still a very strong ability

not to mention ultimate pass is very strong too

[earnest merlin]

Bro the ultimate pass is better than using reach

You have to bug abuse emp to make it useful

[wide fox]

no you don’t, the bug abuse is outright unfair because the opponent can’t counter it

ultimate pass is a better ability because all guaranteed pass abilities are incredibly strong

but having both moves as options in one kit makes a strong character without being broken

[jovial orchid]

why the heck this got 64 🔥

😭

[earnest merlin]

He isn't really that strong though

The reach is ultimately broken

Making the pass better than everything

[left escarp]

cap

emp is bugged

emp reach can steal ball whenever

[clever venture]

yea i feel like maybe make it so the dribble can stun more than one opponent but to stun multiple enemys they have to be really close, and maybe make it so reach steal passes from up close

[lethal talon]

No

A drive is completely different to a dribblw

[clever venture]

well i mean the dribble move he has if it could maybe do that thing when they trip and cant move for a short period of time cause if you have alot of ppl on you the dribble not gonna do anything

[cobalt totem]

nice

[lethal talon]

No

[onyx wharf]

Nerf this idiot style to the ground

anybody who disagree is a hater

and delusional

and can cope

bump

[celest laurel]

[wide fox]

these would be awful changes

emperors reach and dribble are both incredibly useful tools but are only as effective as you utilise them to be

making either of these changes would remove the skill ceiling for emperor and become unbalanced

emp dribble stunning multiple people would render the emo player completely unblockable by the team when it’s off cooldown

emp reach stealing passes effectively makes it unbeatable in an isolation too

[clever venture]

alr i played with him more and yes i do agree the dribble dont need a buff but tbh i think reach could be buffed to block passes all they gotta do is fake then pass and it really is just slighty better than just blocking the pass as it is really easy to counter reach if you just pass

so ig reach could just be a better alternative to block a pass

[wide fox]

reach is extremely easy to land if you time it correctly

[clever venture]

alother i would say you would have to be in blocking range to use it

[wide fox]

you shouldn’t just be popping it and walking up to people

use it right as they’re about to take a shot

[clever venture]

not if they pass

[wide fox]

if it just blocks passes then the player you’re defending literally has no options, shoot? enemy team gets possession, pass? enemy team gets possession, keep the ball? another teammate walks up and steals and gets possession

[wide fox]

nope, use it right at the moment they release the ball in a shot and it doesn’t fail

if they pass, then they’ve countered you by playing cautiously

[clever venture]

tbh maybe only block pass at the 2 court line then

[wide fox]

which is fine by me

[wide fox]

what would this change

the dilemma is exactly the same

[clever venture]

um maybe them not taking the pass mid court

[wide fox]

yeah but either way, emperor just has to walk up and press his button and boom, your team gets the ball

[clever venture]

all they gotta do is pass then they get distance,you cant do anything, and you look stupid

[wide fox]

in order to make this fair, emp reach’s uptime would have to be massively reduced, and at that point you’re just playing lock

[clever venture]

uptime as in cd?

[wide fox]

no, how long emp reach’s is active

[clever venture]

if that's only at the 2 point line then thats fine

[wide fox]

yeah but why should the enemy team get punished for working together? if the emperor can block both your shot and your pass when it’s in their court then it’s just unbeatable

[clever venture]

in fast pace situations where the other team is trying to get the ball out of the 2 point line and to a teammate at the 3 line i think this could be better and you can counter it by dunking

[clever venture]

i mean it's the same as just blocking

maybe reduce the time that iframes last after use when using this var

[wide fox]

no it’s not, emperors reach is automatic and instantly gives you possession, you don’t have to do any kind of mind games with fakes and don’t have to worry about the enemy team retaining possession

it’s already incredibly powerful for that reason, buffing it to passes would just make it unbearable and only applying it to the 2 point range would never be seen because everybody stays on the 3 line or dunks

what you’re asking for is a needless buff to emperors defensive capacity, despite it already having one of the best defensive tools in the game

[clever venture]

i see what you mean ig i just the teams i got aganst just have way better teamwork than the team im on

[wide fox]

then that’s not an issue with the style, it’s an issue with the players

[clever venture]

but still tho paseing makes it useless

you have to be right on top of them to block a pass

[wide fox]

not every trouble you have in a game should be dealt with by buffing your toolkit

[clever venture]

uh im not saying i have trouble with it

i thought a buff would be nice not that i needed it

[wide fox]

you can just block passes regularly by assessing the dribble and pass patterns of your opponents

[chilly stream]

rework emp DO YOU EVEN KNOW GOLD EXISTS

[wide fox]

or by selecting lock if you can’t be bothered

[clever venture]

does lock block have a height requirement like trap?

[wide fox]

nope it just has a distance requirement

[clever venture]

alr

ig ill try lock and see if it suits me better

[wide fox]

it’s currently the best defensive tool in the game

[chilly stream]

Bro are people frogeting about gold and giant

[wide fox]

gold essentially does to all the same things just with a bigger focus on offensive power

[lethal talon]

their was nothing wrong with giant

[loud bluff]

Bet you never seen this one before

A reach stealing from another reach

It truly can steal from anything

[lethal talon]

It's a bug

And I have seen that many times

[granite walrus]

They do gotta sort ts out. It’s not game winning as it’s just a waste of two abilities but it’s just annoying

[lethal talon]

Wdym

[granite walrus]

It’s not a game winning bug as in if you use it you’re not guaranteed a win unlike certain other bugs but it’s just annoying

[lethal talon]

Gaining procession is game winning

Especially in 2s

[granite walrus]

It’s been used many times and I’ve yet to lose a game against it

[granite walrus]

Even in 2s

In 2s it’s more devastating but again not game winning

Especially if they’re stealing possession off of each other

[lethal talon]

It is

And in that clip he was reaching the enemy

[granite walrus]

If you got no defence then ig it’s game winning but

[lethal talon]

Point proven

Now shut up bc you clearly got no knowledge

Saying not game winning

When emp be reaching dribbles

That's game winning

[granite walrus]

Point proven where😭 if you’re bad at defence then it’s game winning but I’ve faced people using it and I haven’t lost

[lethal talon]

Then that emp user is just bad

[half pagoda]

Sse

[heady light]

I hope the devs gonna see this it rlly needs buff for reach and bit of animation touch allthough awk is still crazy good animated

[granite walrus]

Reach doesn’t need a buff your team just has to literally be out the way

It doesn’t work if your team crowds the guy

Because it works off of sight

So communicate to your team that you’re gonna use reach

However they should change the code to be proximity not sight

[heady light]

So what ur saying is i have to be in clear are with only opponent with ball to use reach?

[granite walrus]

Pretty much yeah just get your team to move out the way

[heady light]

Alright, didnt know it works this way

[heady light]

Ty

[granite walrus]

As long as you’re looking at them are close by and they shoot it should work

[half pagoda]

H

[rose owl]

“They can see emperors reach” no way we are mad since we can’t just spam the button and block the shot, y’all got way too braindead with these op styles 🙏

[granite walrus]

Tbf if you can see it and it doesn’t even work as intended then it’s pretty bad. However it’s because most people don’t know that people need to clear the way and not crowd around the guy you’re trying to defend against

They also use it mad early instead of a bit before they’re gonna shoot

[rose owl]

I do agree it is really buggy and it doesn’t work 90% of the time and I think that should be fixed. But if they fix that I think letting people see it is balanced

[tall meadow]

[robust harbor]

@orchid frigate ☠️

[orchid frigate]

look at his messages in gen as well