LETS TALK ABOUT FREE POINTS MOVES

[last radish]

That's easy to implement

[warm musk]

sum calm like a nonchalnt shot

[whole snow]

i give up no one saves the game all unique and good styles would get nerfed to the ground because of stu skill issue community which can’t understand simple things and thinks that for dribble it’s okay if it’s impossible to counter but not for shot be almost impossible to counter

[warm musk]

it should be easy

[limpid canyon]

Episode 1 season 1 he lifts a car over a dog so it not get run over

[last radish]

[limpid canyon]

He can dump car on person and steal ball

[warm musk]

thats the whole entire point of saiki's persanlity

[limpid canyon]

Voila

[warm musk]

how yall not getting my point

[waxen junco]

Well instead of #1405587513904468068 why don't just name this like "balancing" or sum

[limpid canyon]

he got teleport…

[last radish]

Cuz you didn't watch the show

[warm musk]

saiki is known for his want for peace

so u telling me he gon grab som 1 head and dunk on it?

[last radish]

He literally gets mad in the show

[whole snow]

i did it wrong ik but if you read the post you’ll get the point

[warm musk]

mad and rage is diff

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho100-mob-psycho-shigeo-shigeo-kageyama-mob-gif-26480355

[blissful pivot]

yeah, nerfing auto score moves isn’t a bad idea

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/kusuo-saiki-gif-18026614

[whole snow]

EXACTLY

[waxen junco]

No one read it allat just click in and press ❌ which is bad for you

[warm musk]

2 diff things

[last radish]

Me when a moveset that represents a psychic uses other psychic moves

[whole snow]

that’s why i say these are just 45 npc

[last radish]

Tsb been doing it for months

Nbd complaining

[waxen junco]

If the name of the topic literally everything

[whole snow]

i’m glad somebody understands me

[lean warren]

Ideas for a style?

[last radish]

Why are you mad cuz they take liberty and use creativity

[warm musk]

all im saying is it wouldve been nicer if it was sum more calm

[warm musk]

not mad

[whole snow]

LETS TALK ABOUT ORDINARY SHOT

good?

[last radish]

It would have been lame

[waxen junco]

Yup much better

[limpid canyon]

How do you make a style in a game “calm”

[whole snow]

LETS TALK ABOUT FREE POINTS MOVES

[warm musk]

but yall not getting the point

[limpid canyon]

Especially in basketball

[warm musk]

cause thats what saiki is

[warm musk]

all im saying is

[limpid canyon]

No one is calm playing basketball :3

[last radish]

Why can you accept that they took some inspiration for another psychic character

They did the same with cyber

[blissful pivot]

i think the reason why so much people put an x is because the first option you gave was to leave psychic alone

if you opened with “nerfed these moves as well” then this suggestion would do better

[warm musk]

if a style gon be based of a character i think it should be everything tgt

[warm musk]

not that bro

[dusty cargo]

ragebait

[last radish]

When do you seen David install implants on the spot

[warm musk]

im js saying

[dusty cargo]

1/10

[blissful pivot]

the shot is too hard to block

it should be a 2pt or sum

[whole snow]

well i changed it now

[last radish]

Ik I've said this

[whole snow]

a bit

[dusty cargo]

“a bit”

[last radish]

Why would it lol

[limpid canyon]

Nah that would make it buns

[warm musk]

it should be based on the character personality 2

[dusty cargo]

💔

[last radish]

[blissful pivot]

it’s like quick release which is only a 2pt

[warm musk]

u see lazy worker

[limpid canyon]

Plus who on earth uses a two pointer shot move apart from sniper which can be used as a three lol

[blissful pivot]

but its better

[warm musk]

he lazy so his moves lazy

[last radish]

How is his move lazy😭

[blissful pivot]

nagi

[warm musk]

the style

[blissful pivot]

idk

[limpid canyon]

They ain’t lazy tho

[warm musk]

they kinda are

[last radish]

He literally has a fadeaway

[limpid canyon]

He full running backwards and jumping 40 meters high to shoot

[warm musk]

u see how he doing it tho

it aint nothing crazy wit hella affects

js sum simplee

[limpid canyon]

And with trap he just jumps 4736KM up

[warm musk]

like something saiki would want to do

[last radish]

Is this rage bait or you just a super genius?

[warm musk]

do u get what im saying

[last radish]

Cuz you're so smart man

[warm musk]

😭

how long it take for u too realize

[last radish]

It's impressive how your brain works so well

[blissful pivot]

i was carrying my team with playmaker untill an opp saiki got his awk and ruined everything

[warm musk]

i had everyone crashing out lol

[last radish]

This is a demonstration of your brain power

[limpid canyon]

What brain power

[last radish]

Dude doesn't even realize it's sarcasm

[limpid canyon]

do too

twas a joke

[warm musk]

this is a demonstration of being ragebaited

[limpid canyon]

I don’t understand :p

[waxen junco]

Playmaker mains? yoo

[blissful pivot]

ignore my bumahh username

[last radish]

"I lose and arguement so it's automatically ragebait"🧌

[blissful pivot]

i was carrying my team but i lost cuz saiki got his awk😢

[limpid canyon]

ima send u a friend request hahahe

[warm musk]

wtv u say buddy

[limpid canyon]

Ur narrator right

[last radish]

Nah mb bud it was ragebait😅

It was ragebait😅

[limpid canyon]

Calling a random person buddy? Must really be desperate for some friends then hey

[blissful pivot]

when are we getting nel clutch?

[warm musk]

cant even call people buddy 😭

[limpid canyon]

Wrong game

[limpid canyon]

lol I’m kidding

[last radish]

Yo can we get nel isagi in bbz plsssss

Plssssss nel isagi in bbz

[blissful pivot]

Nel playmaker plz

[last radish]

Nbl neo basketball league

[limpid canyon]

The day that comes is the day chrollo is assassinated ( Not by me ofc I would never hurt papi chrollo )

[last radish]

Am I cooking

Nel phantom when

[limpid canyon]

no

[dusty cargo]

Nel Cyber when

[last radish]

After nel spiderman

[dusty cargo]

so nel venom to

[last radish]

Ya

[limpid canyon]

Spider-Man and venom gonna be peak as hell @last radish @dusty cargo

[dusty cargo]

i agree with this statement

[last radish]

Ye

[limpid canyon]

: )

[blissful pivot]

you only have 10 frames to block it…

god….

[limpid canyon]

Ten frames is ten frames

That’s 10x1 frame bro

That’s a LOT

of frames

@blissful pivot

[blissful pivot]

that’s the amount of time
you have to block it right?

60 frames is = to 1 second

so you only have a 6th of a second to block ordinary shot

not to mention ping

[limpid canyon]

ez

Also I’m assuming his “ ten frames “ would be an estimate

It’ll be like 30

[lean warren]

Hell no

[somber gazelle]

Do u even understand what free points mean? It means that's its free points that u can't counter for exam awk moves most of the moves u just are either blockable or counterable for example flowstep there's litterly a giant gap where u can steal the ball same with emperors dribble and the flash combo?? Thats litterly jus using 2 moves from flash

[lean warren]

Fr

[somber gazelle]

Sure I can see the problem with green but it's 3 point variant is ez to block unless they use tech and ordinary shot sure I won't argue on u with that one cuz it needs a nerf

[somber gazelle]

Bro litterly listed dribble moves that are supposed to be use to get up the court 😭

[inland mountain]

i mean

i can't just get 1 skill of the style

you need to see the whole thing

[whole snow]

everything about psychic is ez to counter beastie the ordinary shot

ofc also beside awk

[inland mountain]

na thats a rage bait 💀

[whole snow]

and btw you can counter B awk on pubs and 3 v 3 if team has enough brain cells and passes to cf (i countered one psychic with it he couldn’t use his B)

[inland mountain]

I have to admit that I fell

in a rage bait

[whole snow]

it’s not because he is litteraly ez to counter
Teleport? you need first shoot which can be blocked or get a pass which can get intercepted the only way is teleport + guaranteed but you waste 2 moves you could basically do a cursed dash instead etc

teleport pass?

ANOTHER GUARANTEED PASS

the only thing about it is lock can’t intercept it

NOTHING SPECIAL

just kuroko pass

Confusion?
PASS OR FOR DUNKS AND SHOTS BAIT
and btw if you even get caught for dunk you can run away cause it buffs your speed and you don’t even need to pass when you get confused because you are too fast to steal (pass is better tho)

the only thing which you can’t counter is cunfused reverse dunk

everything else can be countered or baited

[inland mountain]

You're so wrong that you even changed the title of your post from "stop talking about psych" to "let's talk about free points" so you can blame the style on everyone who has a free point, because it's impossible to argue that this style isn't broken.

[whole snow]

i don’t say it’s broken

i say just it’s not the only style with fee points

BUT

there is 1 thing

which makes ordinary shot

better in some way

than others

ability resist

so that’s why i suggested 2 different nerfs

[inland mountain]

man you dont talk about the real problem

[whole snow]

1. is remove the ability resist
2. add longer wind up BUT THEN we need to nerf ALL free points abilities
   (the only fairs are Street dribble and Flash combo)

[inland mountain]

na man

they don't need to nerf all free points

[whole snow]

no it’s you don’t see the problem you say psychic is broken i say everybody is broken so just nerf psychic a bit so his shot would be same counter able with defensive abilities as others OR nerf everybody and then add longer wind up

[whole snow]

then just remove the ability resist

ordinary shot will be even worse than dribbles then

because it can be predicted and countered with abilities

when dribbles can be countered only with abilities

do you get it?

[waxen junco]

I have best solution for psychic simply remove his ordinary shot from base

[inland mountain]

yea

thats work

[waxen junco]

No more argument anymore

[whole snow]

this would be so stupid what’s the point so the style won’t have any offence move?

then make teleport on ball

[waxen junco]

you can actually

[whole snow]

and off ball both

[whole snow]

that would make sense

[waxen junco]

Shoot the ball to another way of the Court then use teleport also work rn

Unless there are switcher

Or ace

[whole snow]

can be blocked tho

[whole snow]

that’s why if they will remove ordinary shot then they need to do teleport both on ball and off ball

that’s fair

[waxen junco]

Nonetheless still better than nothing

[whole snow]

basically a Cursed dash but faster and no control direction/ distance + no black flash

[waxen junco]

Remember tatills first nerf? Yeah pretty much remove his snap from off ball

[whole snow]

yes but don’t compare tatlis and chrollo prime to any style

[inland mountain]

my man

[whole snow]

they can’t compete

[inland mountain]

just you

your brain

:O

"to do the play"

not in this discussion

[whole snow]

if remove ordinary shot then teleport both on ball and off ball

if nerf then remove ability resist

[inland mountain]

I don't mean to call you stupid, but this play is ridiculously easy to do, (in case it seems like I want to offend)

[whole snow]

if to nerf a wind up then nerf every free points abilities

that’s so easy

[whole snow]

look

if you shot from too far

people can react and basically go to that corner

if you shoot too close

people can block

do you get it?

[inland mountain]

na bro

[whole snow]

personally me i adapted to new styles i even sometimes block ordinary shot

[candid flare]

I literally only agree with cursed dash and creators dribble here the rest aren’t that big of a deal

[whole snow]

nothing hard to counter except of ordinary shot and ofc awks
BUT True Power actually can be countered i countered with a good team they just passed to me (cf) and psychic couldn’t use his B

[whole snow]

Shamgod can’t be countered if used left shoulder

and those abilities can be countered with other abilities

FOR EXANPLE

Snatch Block
Emperor Reach
Blink
Instinct Dash
trap 2 v 2

so that’s why

i suggested to remove the ability resist

that’s pretty fair

[waxen junco]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-kumala-la-kumala-la-savesta-kumala-my-honest-gif-26073681

[robust veldt]

Still by far

One of the saddest suggestions ive seen 😭

[candid flare]

Real

Instead how about the devs put effort into gold 🤣✌️

They obviously didn’t the first time

He’s my favorite style

[waxen junco]

I seen worse.

#1396102371586609215 #1388669531710558279 #1388663823933640764 and I can't find more since it got either removed or smth

[candid flare]

NERF SNIPER

WHY???

LITERALLY WHY

[waxen junco]

Chrollo one is worse since the guy wants him to full court 100% in base btw

He delete his message

But still

[candid flare]

I agree perfection is kind of over tuned in the blocking shot aspect

It’s annoying

But not broken

But sniper players have it bad

[waxen junco]

(he pay 500 dollars for chrollo btw)

[candid flare]

Characters literally have there ability but better

[waxen junco]

😭😭

[waxen junco]

Yup example is right there where we talk.

[robust veldt]

Fr

[dark vigil]

Imo free shots are fine. Normal shots are free anyway…. And it only gives you max 3 points. In blr a free shot is so much more impactful. But here, not so much imo. It’s fine if every style has one free shot imo

[inland mountain]

The thing about psych

is

theres no counter play for any move

[dark vigil]

Ankle break for confusion works fine

Ordinary shot could use wind up

But that feels abt it

[surreal pollen]

Reverse dunk isn't free? Emp dribble ain't that good either

[whole snow]

reverse dunk is free there is no way smb blocks you never get blocked in ranked and pubs both

[surreal pollen]

Bro you can blocked reverse dunk

[whole snow]

Emp dribble is hard to counter but ye it’s not that op and doesn’t need a nerf if we want to nerf fee points

[whole snow]

it’s very hard tho

[quartz gale]

yes I will be winning that ps5

[whole snow]

not as normal dunks

[surreal pollen]

It's not really

Or in that case it's like sniper animalistic

[whole snow]

you can’t block it mid air or on the ground ONLY at the end when he almost got to the basket like super near to it

you need good positioning and timing

[surreal pollen]

But it's not hard

[whole snow]

and even tho don’t forget that if you guard a basket he will do a free shot

he can be countered with only at least 2 skilled players

[surreal pollen]

Nah giant with some kind of speed zone is all you really need

And green?

Green isn't really that hard

[whole snow]

half court is like ordinary shot but longer range and 70% chance

and no abilitiy resist

[near heath]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1406000094607704175

[whole snow]

100% chance shot can change directions like even mid air that’s why it’s like guessing or super good reflexes

[surreal pollen]

Ordinary shot block able btw

[whole snow]

ik

[near heath]

and then they start pumpfaking to make it a cointoss whether you get your block or not 🤣

[surreal pollen]

WDYM by this anyways

[near heath]

such a brainless style god bro i hate psychic

[surreal pollen]

Fr

[surreal pollen]

I can't use it

[near heath]

psychic and switcher deserve to be gutted i hate ranked

[whole snow]

ordinary shot has resistance to any defensive abilities

[surreal pollen]

I got a skill issue with brainless styles

[whole snow]

which makes it better than others free points

so here are even 3 options

[surreal pollen]

Bring back prime fetch and prenerf jp

I want my jump tech back!

Lets make it easier for me to dive long passes

[whole snow]

1. remove this ability resistance
2. REMOVE THE ABILITY but make teleport on and off ball both
3. nerf wind up but then nerf all free points

all of them are fair

[surreal pollen]

You saying all free points

But the only real free points are awk

[whole snow]

yes

nah

[surreal pollen]

Yes

You essentially saying nerf awk

[whole snow]

there is no way you can somehow counter Trap, Cursed Dash, Creator dribble etc

[surreal pollen]

I mean, you saying that when jp and giant counters missle

🥀🥀🙏🙏

[whole snow]

Cursed Dash
Creator Dribble
Trap
and maybe green at least nerf THEM

here the ideas for them

[surreal pollen]

And creator dribble sucks too

[whole snow]

Cursed dash decrease the distance basically

[surreal pollen]

Green? It ain't really need a nerf

[whole snow]

AHHSHAHAHA

[whole snow]

maybe that’s why i say MAYBE

[surreal pollen]

Bro suggesting it to be prerework ace

[whole snow]

Creator dribble

[surreal pollen]

Yes

[whole snow]

here are 2 variants

[surreal pollen]

Nahh

[whole snow]

so

[surreal pollen]

??

It's 1 varriant

[whole snow]

1. variant is remove stun completely
2. variant make so you can’t NOT to use the second variant

[whole snow]

i mean nerf variants

like options

[surreal pollen]

Horrible

Just horrible

It's not a drive

For 1 cant work

And 2?

In that case

Do the same with emp

And make emp even worse

[whole snow]

emperor is okay

[surreal pollen]

Nahh

[whole snow]

i say at least nerf these

[surreal pollen]

You suggesting a dribble

That gain no distance

To be nerfed

[whole snow]

for example trap is basically a 3 pt NO COUBTER

[lean warren]

Actually make the space between the dribbles in creators dribbles smaller and remove the stun

[whole snow]

just let your teammate shoot from far and trap

you can’t even counter this with any ability

[surreal pollen]

How you know

[lean warren]

Yeah nerf trap

[whole snow]

yes just make it faster like

[surreal pollen]

No one tested giant or Jp on it

[whole snow]

OR if we don’t want to nerf all of them

THEN

[whole snow]

.

[surreal pollen]

It's fine

You yapping about nothing

[whole snow]

remove the ability resistance

[surreal pollen]

Creator dribble is good

[surreal pollen]

Wtf does this mean

Honestly

[whole snow]

OMG

ORDINARY SHOT

HAS ABILITY RESISTANCE

WHICH MEANS

YOU CSNT BLINK IT

SNATCH BLOCK IT

ENPEROR REACH IT

TTAP IT N 2 V 2

[surreal pollen]

You saying ability resistance when that's the only style with it

[whole snow]

AND THATS the only thing which makes it better than others free points

[surreal pollen]

Skill issue

Honestly

[lean warren]

No just make the wind up longer

[whole snow]

and then what? no point just basically a shot which is ez to block it’s even worse than a normal shot

it would be fair only if we nerf all of the free points

then ye

but for now fair nerf would be one of 2

1. make you can counter it with abilities

2. delete it

BUT

make teleport both on and off ball

[surreal pollen]

Theirs really no free points besides trap which is counter able

So get good

[whole snow]

haha alr

[surreal pollen]

Plesse

[surreal pollen]

There is

[whole snow]

show me how you can counter cursed dash

[lean warren]

Delete it

[surreal pollen]

Ever heard of close passing?

[whole snow]

or street dribble

[surreal pollen]

Thats no free points bc it's just a dribble

Play right and giant might be able to counter

[inland mountain]

Cursed dash:

[whole snow]

that’s also works but then make teleport on ball also so this move will be basically faster cursed dash with no distance and directions control + no black flash

[surreal pollen]

Play right and counter

Giant exists

[inland mountain]

Na man

[whole snow]

exactly can be countered with abilities

that’s why i say

[inland mountain]

If you need to play with a style Just to win

[whole snow]

remove ability resistance from ordinary shot

[inland mountain]

Itz becaude the game is a bad game

[surreal pollen]

I mean, theirs a lot of counters to many abilities

[whole snow]

that’s why i repeat ONE MORE TIME i hope you get it this time

de

le

te

the

ability

resistance

for

ordinary

SHOT

[surreal pollen]

I don't, but now I kinda do since they nerfed jp and giant

You talking about ordinary shot

But you only mentioned it like 2-3 times since I came in here

[lament gyro]

So I just got the rubber zone

And holy mid

That’s gotta be limited

Bcs it wastes my slot

The only good thing is can’t be ankle broken

Wait aoe ankle breakers sounds good

Maybe longer ankle breakers would be better

[surreal pollen]

The zone sounds buns

I rather keep quick draw, gold v, and 777

[lament gyro]

quickdraw?