LETS TALK ABOUT FREE POINTS MOVES

[noble flame]

ace has 2 moves

3 technically

instict dash

[balmy fog]

oi calm down. it’s js a Roblox game.

[noble flame]

athlethic fade

[noble flame]

and the drive

2 of those moves from ace

[rugged musk]

idk im just vibing while they kill eachother

[noble flame]

are mediocre

[rugged musk]

[noble flame]

they arent bad

but they arent that good

switcher

has 2

good moves

[urban knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874132916177874954/1335270595306328144/image0.gif

alr gang but chill tho

[balmy fog]

Yes WE are arguing (especially shima)

[noble flame]

and a 50% steal

[robust veldt]

❌

[potent raven]

Jp do too okay

[urban knot]

SHIMA ANGY GANG

[inland mountain]

🍅

[rugged musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jjk-s2-jjk-season-2-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-2-gif-2446260417043491971

[noble flame]

jp is better than switcher?

[potent raven]

Way better

[noble flame]

not really

[robust veldt]

What

[noble flame]

but i feel bad for you

so ok

[potent raven]

Yes really

😭

[noble flame]

yup

totally man

[urban knot]

dw

[potent raven]

It a guaranted steal if you run out of all 3 dribbles plus time it right when someone shoots it a guaranteed steal

Let not even talk about his ult

[noble flame]

yup

[balmy fog]

Nah jp is

[urban knot]

btw peacock blue is the best blue ;D

[rugged musk]

[balmy fog]

cuz steals are more impactful

[robust veldt]

Oke

[potent raven]

You down for the 2v2 yes or no

[noble flame]

yeah

jp is better than switcher

[balmy fog]

nobody doing 2v2s brother

[noble flame]

im not arguing it isnt

[balmy fog]

That’s the worst gamemode

[noble flame]

jp is more reliable

[balmy fog]

in this game

[potent raven]

You called me bad

So why not play me?

[balmy fog]

At using switcher yes?

you realize the same way you can use ace to score

You can use switcher dash to score too

[potent raven]

I never rolled switcher only played against itn

[balmy fog]

Do you accept that?

[potent raven]

It easy

[noble flame]

jace

what does

prenerf clutch do

[balmy fog]

Second I don’t have my laptop on me rn

[noble flame]

this is a test to know your ball knowledge

[balmy fog]

I only have my phone

[potent raven]

Cursed dash is a drive fade is a shooting move

You know that right

Two different scoring ways

[balmy fog]

and you can use both to score

[noble flame]

fade is easily blockable

[balmy fog]

Both are blockable

but you can still use both to score

Not to mention ace also have a drive move

[potent raven]

That’s if your playing a noob ace 😭

[noble flame]

even if

they turn around

twist the camera

i can still block it

the hitbox for the move

is big

you can block it 5 studs away

[potent raven]

Yeah sure

[rugged musk]

[potent raven]

I only had my ace shot blocked in comp once I guaranteed you not blocking it 👎

[noble flame]

youre playing with lowlevels

lol

[potent raven]

Wow I am playing with low levels😭

[noble flame]

ace is easily telegraphed man

justt accept it

change mains or smth

[potent raven]

Your not blocking mines shots

[noble flame]

do you twist the camera

still blockable

do you use it for distance

[potent raven]

Okay ordinary shot is blockable

Don’t mean nothing still weird

[noble flame]

not the same

one is more blockable

than the other

[rugged musk]

[noble flame]

athlethic fade is easy to block man

[potent raven]

Still blockable

[noble flame]

im sorry

ok

[vapid falcon]

😭 honstly why am i not surprised the funny thing is the styles this time are balanced

[potent raven]

You not blocking me that’s all I am saying

[noble flame]

i forgot this suggestion was about psychic

[noble flame]

and youre not blocking my cursed dash

i can say the same thing

[potent raven]

We can also 1v1 1v2 2v3 anytime

[noble flame]

we both sound like idiots

if we say that

[potent raven]

Yes I am

[noble flame]

and yes i am

blocking your athlethic fade

[potent raven]

You wanna try?

We can play rn

[noble flame]

region

[potent raven]

I play on your servers

[noble flame]

i need 2v2s or 3v3s

[rugged musk]

you guys playing uno or something?
i block you
i block you
i block you

[noble flame]

switcher

you said 2v1 right

[potent raven]

Get another friend imma just win the 1v2

Yes

[noble flame]

add me

its 2 am for me

[potent raven]

No just send a link

[noble flame]

i have nun to co with rn

[potent raven]

Okay just play a different style

It don’t matter imma win anyways

[noble flame]

dawg

😭

im gonna play switcher dawg

since thats the arguement

[rugged musk]

[noble flame]

ill dawg you anyways

with ace aswell

[rugged musk]

i play with you if you want

[noble flame]

what region

[rugged musk]

im a fetch user

[potent raven]

Hmm yeah just send the link bro

[rugged musk]

europe

[noble flame]

i respectfully

decline

[noble flame]

add me

[rugged musk]

okie

[noble flame]

i wont back out

9 pm gmt+8

[rugged musk]

yo send me the link

ima watch this beef with my eyes

im vibing in drama

[noble flame]

ill dm you at that time

dw

[rugged musk]

thanks

[noble flame]

im talking to him

but

[rugged musk]

you from where?

[noble flame]

ill seend it to you aswell

[red garden]

As a psychic main

He is broken

He just needs a lil nerfs

[noble flame]

dunno

i forgot

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

i like playing lock now

i was a unc sam main

but now im a locker 🙏

[rugged musk]

im a fetch and playmaker main

peak styles

[vast sail]

i tried playing fetch but i didnt understand how it worked 😭

[rugged musk]

the dash is only if the ball is on the ground

[vast sail]

he has a jumpy move

[balmy fog]

theres a special hell for u.

[vast sail]

i love how goofy it looks

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

🔥 i will intercept the devil

[balmy fog]

lock still not nerfed after 3 updates

devs js gave up on balancing the game

[rugged musk]

you can also use the dash to break some passes lol

so good to do

[vast sail]

i wish there was more

chem reactions

[rugged musk]

thre should be a phanton ace chem

[vast sail]

lock + every style chem

[rugged musk]

chuck and quick chem

[vast sail]

chuck and chuck chem

[vapid falcon]

Psychic is getting hate ?
lmao why 😭

[vast sail]

"how many chucks can a chuck chuck?"

[fervent wedge]

worst suggestion of all time

[rugged musk]

driving in my chuck right after a chuck hey that chuck plays like a chuck

[vapid falcon]

im so confused why its getting hate

[rugged musk]

ima meme you

[vast sail]

we need chuck + psychic chem

[rugged musk]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-omniman-omni-man-think-think-mark-think-gif-10154057437310280034

[vast sail]

psychic gets annoyed by chuck stupidity

and insta scores

a full court

[rugged musk]

lol i can see that happen

[vast sail]

3 pointer

/j

[vast sail]

it would be cool without the last part

maybe a dunk

[vapid falcon]

cant chrollo do the same thing (and sniper and lazy worker ...uncle sam)

[vast sail]

teleport pass + dribble king chem

dribble king (losing version not the winning one)

[rugged musk]

phanton pass to unc sam cannon

[vast sail]

bro get annoyed teleports themselfs

and dunks the ball

unc sam + any perfect pass = reload

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

just puts the ball on the cannon and shoots

[vapid falcon]

lmao 😭

[vast sail]

BULLET PASS AND UNC SAM

NOW thats a reload

[rugged musk]

new move to unc sam

he enters inside the canon

and dunk the ball with himself

[junior nest]

Yes,that style is really broken

[vast sail]

cannon dribble

its just a dash with the ball

Ik what would make unc sam better?

like

jokes aside?

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

if star shot and eagle dunk

[junior nest]

[vast sail]

were separated moves

[rugged musk]

not having to chose dunk or shoot

[vast sail]

instead of a choice

[vast sail]

yes

[rugged musk]

like why do i stop to think

if i cant chose

i need to chose

to have only one option

[vast sail]

yes

but being separated would be a giga buff

cause you would be able to 3 points

[rugged musk]

its like "you want this or this? you can only have this one tough"

[vast sail]

and also dunk

[vast sail]

this never made sense 💀

maybe if the eagle had a longer range

[rugged musk]

or if you could cannon shoot from the 3 line

you get on the 3 line

everyone gets under the hoop to stop the dunk

and you just shoot

folled everyone

[vast sail]

i wish

unc sam moveset

was more "diverse"

instead of "oooh a cannon"

[rugged musk]

"ooh a minigun"

[vast sail]

just call it cannon style

[iron mesa]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1405614515378196570

[rugged musk]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-gif-4007870892487612180

@noble flame the 1v1/1v2 is happening?

[noble flame]

I cant fight in 2 am on mobile

Ima just dm the guy

In 9 pm

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

2 AM 💀

[noble flame]

Im a dedicated chatter

[rugged musk]

bro right now

[noble flame]

Definitely

Idk what that guy expected

[rugged musk]

[noble flame]

Im still gonna versus him tho

Im not gonna backdown

[rugged musk]

never backdown never what

[noble flame]

Im gonna sleep

[rugged musk]

gn

[vast sail]

gn

[noble flame]

🧑‍🎄 gn chat

[rugged musk]

[vast sail]

https://tenor.com/view/bwaaa-gif-4267476379160539866

[vast sail]

is this the world crispiest "Bwaaa"?

[rugged musk]

i have 2 off that

[vast sail]

the urge of getting nitro

just to use that

[rugged musk]

cant send it normaly in this chat

[vast sail]

bocchi

[rugged musk]

[white cove]

@cedar moon @robust veldt @potent raven @noble flame can you guys relax with the toxicity? keep it friendly, everyone has the right to make a suggestion even if you don’t agree with it

@noble flame don’t use commands here, we have #🤖・commands

@noble flame stop sending messages like this, it’s considered as xp farming, this is your verbal warning (example shown in the picture)

[rugged musk]

do sending emojis count as xp farm?

[white cove]

@rugged musk be careful with your wording please

[white cove]

no unless you’re spamming it

[rugged musk]

wait what did i say?

[rugged musk]

ok fair

[waxen junco]

lmao

[rugged musk]

[mental verge]

Not as much as Ordinary Shot. At least with the other abilities, there are counterplays and/or abilities to block the shot. Ordinary shot js straight up says that Abilities can’t block the shot. Once the ball is moving in the air, it’s wraps.

[whole snow]

that’s why i’m saying frkn 100000000th time JUST REMOVE ABILITY RESIST THEN

[mental verge]

Ts just ragebait

[waxen junco]

We can't expect anything anymore.

[mental verge]

Even removing it, there’s still a 10 FRAME window where u can block it. Even one frame slower and ur cooked. U need to PREDICT the shot to block it

[waxen junco]

Even 1 ping can ruin you blocking lmao

[mental verge]

Exactly

And before u come in saying that other shots need to be predicted, at least u have visual representation of the shot. Ordinary shot is literally right off the bat. No wind up or anything

Like for Sniper. He has a half court shot, but u can see him do it and have the time to block it

Psychic is js wraps if ur ping decides to be 1% more

[waxen junco]

Even sniper quick shot have wind up

(the green ring appears=jump)

[mental verge]

Right.

This is why ppl say Psychic is broken

[inland mountain]

guys, thats clearly a ragebait

common

[mental verge]

A ragebait with over 1200+ messages?

I think this person is serious unfortunately…

[inland mountain]

I should have copied the text I sent in the balance team's form, it was a very long text that talked about psychy not having counterplay

[vapid falcon]

star and giants move stops it(I FOUND out yesterday) you have you jump over their heads but either way the shot is still blockable

also pretty sure emp reach works (correct me if im wrong on this one)

[mental verge]

Emp reach doesn’t work

[vapid falcon]

dangg

[mental verge]

But it’s satisfying to know that grab-type blocks that put u in the air works

Psychic is not completely broken, but he still needs a heavy nerf

[inland mountain]

YO

[vapid falcon]

the thing is i cant think of anything they could nerf but the wind up its sighly balanced in its own weird way

[inland mountain]

I FOUND half of the text, remembering that this is not the complete version, English is not my first language and I did it at work

i send the text and i got a warning 😭

[brittle wing]

but like he saying all this when he has the most broken shot, can teleport, and has 2 off ball steals

like he cant be serious

[waxen junco]

Lmao

Same

And i know exactly who timeout me

All along

[inland mountain]

i got the automatic timeout

[waxen junco]

10 minutes timeout exact same time

[inland mountain]

again this is not the finished text it was just the base of it

[waxen junco]

Yet they haven't delete my messages (i forgot where it is on suggestion chanel)

im confused right now.

[robust veldt]

there aren't iframes on teleport pass

it's worse, dribble frames

dribble frames means that even if you have a steal move that goes through iframes, you'll get ankle broken

I'm sure Tatlis' steal could go through that pass

[inland mountain]

maybe it was glitched

[inland mountain]

I thought it was just a bug, but I had seen another guy complaining about iframes and I thought it was the skill.

oh dang

i read the whole thing

[robust veldt]

did you provide solutions

[versed palm]

wdym shammgod used correctly

last time I heard that it meant use it in the air which now you can't

[whole snow]

no no

if you use it with left shoulder

[brisk marlin]

About the only real problem I have with saiki is the awk move animations where you drag your opponent across the court, in what world is that NOT a foul?

[whole snow]

hah

[brisk marlin]

Like ion got the style and im not complaining bout the free points, sniper got em and thats a legendary, but fouling your opponent is crazy

Like yeah the style kinda broken but its based on a guy who can do ANYTHING

but the fouls in awakening is blatant ignorance to basketballs basic rules and ion fw that

[whole snow]

like people don’t get me and keep putting ❌
I DO NOT SAY PSYCHIC IS EZ TO BLOCK
I SAY THERE ARE TONS OF FREE POINTS ABILITIES SO WHY WOULDNT HE HAS IT?
there are 3 options actually

1. don’t touch it
2. remove ability resist (so you can counter it, without predicting)
3. NERF ALL OF THE FREE POINTS ABILTIES AND YES ADD LONGER WIND UP FOR ORDINARY SHOT BUT THEN LET ABILITY RESIST STAY

[brisk marlin]

4- change them awakening move animations so he isn't fouling people

[whole snow]

it’s not rl

[brittle wing]

they just gotta add more windup to it

[whole snow]

what about charge then? it’s the same

[brittle wing]

thats it

[brisk marlin]

Grabbing someone by the face and dragging them across the court is a foul

[brisk marlin]

Chamge that too then

[whole snow]

ONLY if they nerf all of the free points abilities otherwise it’s unfair

[brisk marlin]

We needa remove all the fouls and make the animations rule abiding

❤️‍🩹

[brittle wing]

i think it should be reactable like almost all shot moves

i mean its quick release from the 3 point line

nah even further than the 3 point line

i mean cyber has a move with the same range but its a chance to get it, and it has windup to make it reactable

[whole snow]

as i said there are tons of unguardable moves in the game
so we remove ability resist for it
OR NERF ALL OF THEM AND THEM ADD A WIND UP

[brisk marlin]

Pretty sure saiki was designed to be op anyway

[whole snow]

it’s way further

it’s half court

[limpid canyon]

Shuddap it’s broken

[brittle wing]

nah its around the same range as saiki shot

[whole snow]

AHAHAHA

DO TOU EVEN PLAY THEM

[brittle wing]

if not a lil further

[whole snow]

Saiki is just a bit further than 3pt line

and Cyber is half court

[brittle wing]

nah its around half way from the 3 point to the half court for both

[brisk marlin]

Like perfection's perfect step shoot thing

[whole snow]

no

[brittle wing]

and even if cyber has a lil more range it has windup to make up for it

[whole snow]

it’s just basically sam shot but faster

[brisk marlin]

And it can be blocked

[brittle wing]

so yes they are equal

[whole snow]

ordinary shot also can be blocked

[brittle wing]

now shut up

[brittle wing]

you gotta prefire your jump

[whole snow]

no they are not equal range

[whole snow]

and

look

i repeat

[brittle wing]

im talking about equal in general

[whole snow]

1 more time

I

DONT

[brisk marlin]

Can someone tell me why blink can't block ordinary shot? Like you teleport to the ball what could possibly be stopping it

[whole snow]

SAY

ITS EZ TO BLOCK

OR ITS BALANCED

OR SMTH ELSE

OKAY??

[brisk marlin]

This one isn't complaining I js wanna know

[brittle wing]

gng i didnt say anything that would make it seem like you typed those things

[brisk marlin]

Also I've just realised, they nerfed perfection because it was too good, as if its not literally called perfection for a reason (I know its just cell but once again, perfect)

[whole snow]

I SAY THERE ARE TOOONS OF ABILITIES WHICH YOU CAN COUNTRR ONLY WITH MOVES
SO THATS WHY I SAY REMOVE ABILITY RESIST THEN

IF YOU WANT TO ADD A WIND UP FOR IT THEN NERF ALL OF FREE POINTS ABILITIES IF FREE POINTS ARE PROBLEM

[brittle wing]

watch chrollo nerf it with a longer windup tho

lol

[whole snow]

because community is stupid and doesn’t get the real problem

they see only psychic because he is new

[brittle wing]

i can give you multiple reasons why its broken/deserves to be nerfed

atleast 3

[brisk marlin]

Midorima is like the only character where a half court is properly excusable considering its his whole shtick

[full flax]

Name them

[whole snow]

33% skill issue and can’t counter him
33% main characters who doesn’t want to pass when confused etc
34% think that he is THE ONLY CHARACTER WITH FREE 3PT ABILITY

[brittle wing]

fast windup, far range, and abilities cant go through it

[whole snow]

they need to rework him fr

[full flax]

[brittle wing]

happy?

[brisk marlin]

Fr, like I understand perfect arc being blockable but not quick release, if I remember correctly its based on a move designed in show to avoid just being blocked

[full flax]

Aint it nirmally blockable tho

And some moves can stop the shot like chrollos thingy in awk

[brittle wing]

you can use regular block to block it but its almost unreactable

keyword almost

[brisk marlin]

Yall should totally check out my yammy suggestion fr

Its peak

[brittle wing]

yes that too

[full flax]

If ur saying the shot is far ranged its legit closer to the 3 point line then half court line

[whole snow]

range is not crazy it’s just basically normal 3pt
look tons of moves which can be countered only with defensive moves that’s why i say remove ability resist and it would be balanced and the same as all of the free points abilities OR NERF ALL OF THEM AND THEN ADD A WINDUP

[brittle wing]

its crazy range for an almost unreactable shot

[full flax]

Theres a sound que and a effect before the shot

Its reactable

[whole snow]

it’s basically ordinary shot but 2pt
(and no ability resist but it’s anyways too fast to react)

[full flax]

Same with green then

But its an actual half vourt shot

[brittle wing]

ok but the 5-10 yearolds playing this game arent gonna pick up on that

[whole snow]

EXACTLY

[brisk marlin]

Actually it can be blocked really easily the moment you realise that the opponents using sniper, cuz the only go past the 3 point line for that move

[brittle wing]

green is reactable for me

[whole snow]

the same with ordinary shot

[balmy fog]

not really

[full flax]

We cant just imply that most of the players are 5-10 year olds 😭

[balmy fog]

Green has more wind up

[whole snow]

AHAHAHA IT LITTERALY HAS NO WINDUP

[balmy fog]

green is also a % chance

[brittle wing]

nah its reactable

[whole snow]

NO ITS NOT

[brittle wing]

yeah green can also fail

[brisk marlin]

I've blocked it like once, overall, I cant for the life of me find the block window for it

[brittle wing]

but lets be honest they mostly are

[whole snow]

i’m blocking it a lot

[full flax]

Lowkey true 😔

[whole snow]

you are just sucks

[whole snow]

almost every psychic user spam C and Q

[brittle wing]

you just suck*

[brisk marlin]

You should lowk teach me so I can annoy my little brother when he tries to use it on me because he got both limiteds

[whole snow]

.

[full flax]

Guys

Live

Laugh

Love

The style is new

[brisk marlin]

🔥

[full flax]

Just be real

[whole snow]

you didn’t adapted yet

[full flax]

No kne knows how to fully counterplay it

[brittle wing]

i mean they gonna nerf it like tatlis and chrollo

[whole snow]

that’s why you can’t counter

[full flax]

Give it some time

[brittle wing]

lets be honest

[whole snow]

yes

[whole snow]

THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THEIR LVL

[brisk marlin]

Still though, my only real problem with the style is the 2 awakening moves that are just blatant fouls, ticks me off

[brittle wing]

oh really

[whole snow]

even now both tatlis and chrollo are stronger than both new limits

[full flax]

Theres no way they nerfing clanker tho

A style that has built in self stuns/debyffs

[brittle wing]

🥀

[whole snow]

i’m not talking about prime

[brisk marlin]

Like fym they gon drag me across the court by my face and the ref does nothing

[full flax]

Ok u cant lie tho they are 😭

[brittle wing]

tatlis is weaker than psychic

change my mind

[whole snow]

AHHDOSIAHSHA

EHORLDIAHAHAHS

IDHFNANWHSHAHQ

[brisk marlin]

Paint splodge move

Teleporting paint splodge

Autosteal

[whole snow]

EVERYONE CRYES THAT PSYCHIC HAS 4 POINTS STEAL ABILITIES IN TOTAL

TATLIS HAS

OFF BALL

[full flax]

Tatlis has 2 guarenteed steals in base

[whole snow]

4 GUARANTEED STEALS

[brisk marlin]

The one where you force the whole team to their knees

[whole snow]

AND ALL CAN LEAD TO A 3pt

[whole snow]

1

C is just stun

but even tho having a guaranteed steal is too crazy

and his awk

[brittle wing]

change my mind

[brittle wing]

hits one person

[brittle wing]

cant use it offball

[whole snow]

4 FRKN

[brittle wing]

yo my wifi is selling me

[whole snow]

GUARANTEED

STEALS

[full flax]

Exactly u stun the guy with the balk to steal

[whole snow]

AND OFF BALL

[full flax]

They cant do nun

[brisk marlin]

Yo, you seem to be the only truly intelligent being in this chat, can you take a gander at my yammy style suggestion and tell me if it needs balancing work?

[whole snow]

no no C can’t be used off ball now

[brittle wing]

you cant use it offball

[full flax]

Ah ok

[whole snow]

okay

[brittle wing]

aight lowkey gonna mute ts post

[whole snow]

send link

[brisk marlin]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1405757685525250129

Thanks for checking vro❤️‍🩹

[whole snow]

look
Tatlis Got a guaranteed steal which you can only predict
and a mid stun move which gives you guaranteed dunk or 3pt if you are 1 v 1 or other enemies would jump because the thought you will score but you used snap

but the thing is his V

it’s a guaranteed steal

and btw a guaranteed 3

AND HIS AWK

[brisk marlin]

From ANYWHERE on the court as well

[whole snow]

1. it has 4 STEALS and all can lead to score cause 3 of them is long stun and 1 of them dash also

2. it’s OFF BALL

3. IT HAS A SPEED BUFF WITH DRIBBLES AND SLOW DEBUGF FOR OPPONENTS

[inland dirge]

saying psychic doesnt need a nerf and everthing else needs nerfs is insane

[whole snow]

What about chrollo?

[full flax]

Ngl psychic is only good if you have good teamates

No dribble moves

Onlynpass and shot

[whole snow]

are you stupid or what?

i said

PSYCHIC DOESNT NEED A NERF

OR NERF EVERYTHING

INCLUDED

PSYCHIC

[whole snow]

YES NEW CHARACTERS EVEN DONT HAVE ANY DEIBBLE MOVE

[brisk marlin]

Psychic js cooler phantom fr

[inland dirge]

ehhhhhh your literally saying what im saying

[whole snow]

nah you are really stupid

[brisk marlin]

This is obviously a joke

[whole snow]

2 MOVES WHICH ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COUNTER

FORCE TO PASS MOVE

WHICH IS EVEN MORE IMPOSSIBLE TO COUNTER

[full flax]

Maybe cyber if you count the 2nd move on ball

[whole snow]

CANT BE INTESRECPTED

[brisk marlin]

Perfection's blink❤️‍🩹

[whole snow]

AND AWK FULL COURT SHOT MODE WHICH GIVES YOU GUARANTEED POINTS BECUASE OF THE DRIBBLE STUN AND BUFFS INSANE DEFENCE BECAUSE OF THE SPEED AND ALSO YOU CANT EVEN SHOOT

AND OFF BALL BTW

[whole snow]

it’s super balanced cause it has an end lag + it has effect

[inland dirge]

what about confusion?

[full flax]

And failing tursn you into beetlejuice for 5 sec

[whole snow]

ITS ULTRA BALANCED

[brisk marlin]

That's incredibly easy to get used to

[full flax]

Bro its just movement

[whole snow]

yes

[brisk marlin]

Balanced

[full flax]

Thats it

Legit just pass

[whole snow]

COUNFUSION IS LIKE SUPER EZ TO COUNTER

OMG IT BUFFS YOUR SPEEDD

SPEED

[inland dirge]

fine you guys believe what you want to believe

im out

[brisk marlin]

Just move your stick the other way lol

[whole snow]

the only thing you can’t counter

is when you do reverse dunk

and psychic confused you

THATS ALL

[full flax]

If u wanna go forward hold s ho back hold w and vise versa with left n right

[whole snow]

for dunks and shoots

ez to bait

i got caught only 2-3 times and only 1 time got stolen

for dribbles? JUST RUN AWAY YOU ARE SUPER FAST

OR

PASS

F

PASS

YOU ARE NOT MAIN CHARACTER

[brisk marlin]

You can counter confusion by pressing the pass button lol

[paper hollow]

hello guys
i have my retainer in
good night guys

[brisk marlin]

Good night vro

[whole snow]

these kids have a main character syndrome

OH NO I NEED TO PASS EW ID RATHER SHOOT OR LOSE THE BALL AND THEN CRY THAT ITS OP

[inland dirge]

gang

[brisk marlin]

Real, like I was keeping on ball when possible the last match i was in but I was on sniper and they couldn't aim for some reason so I was safest

[inland dirge]

i dont want to be apart of this

ok

[whole snow]

THE ONLY ONLY

THING

[inland dirge]

chill

[full flax]

Its legit it tho

[whole snow]

WHICH IS HARD TO COUNTER

is ordinary shot

but

[full flax]

And for a tiny 3 sec

[whole snow]

the thing is

[inland dirge]

fine

[whole snow]

there are TONS of abilities

which give you

free points

[brisk marlin]

That do the same thing

[whole snow]

so if free points a problem

then nerf everybody

psychic included

then we could add a wind up

if you don’t want to nerf everybody

the only rly logical nerf

would be remove the ability resist

so you can counter him with defensive moves

there are tons

Blink
Snatch Block
Hangs Up
Not my reality
Sky leap
Trap 2 v 2
Emperor Reach ETC

[brisk marlin]

But that'd make perfection meta again because of blink, so id keep resistance against some moves

[whole snow]

YES AND I EVEN SUGGESTED TO BUFF IT

ITS SO BUNS NOW

remove that you need a person for C

[brisk marlin]

Do you mean perfection?

[whole snow]

and make you second variant needs a position

so it pops up every time

but can be usable

only

in the position

[whole snow]

yes

that would make sense

[brisk marlin]

Personally I find it quite usable

[whole snow]

but adding a wind up for him is kinda stupid

like what will be the uniqueness of it if you can easily block it with normal block

[brisk marlin]

I mean they gutted him terribly like you gotta be right on the 3 point line to get perfect step but you know, it is what it is

[whole snow]

only if they really nerf all of the free points abilities

then that would be fair

[whole snow]

ye

he wasn’t even that crazy when released

[brisk marlin]

Including perfect step? Cuz it can be blocked by everything and has strict requirements to get, so would that be nerfed too?

[whole snow]

he was okay the only thing he needed is world Cd and BUFF C

[whole snow]

it’s so buns now

because of the person requirement

Perfect C goes to random direction

[brisk marlin]

Yeah

[whole snow]

to person

so they need to do 2 things

1. remove this requirement
2. make so perfect step appears even if you are not in the activate position so you can walk and use it

and maybe even buff his blink

[lament gyro]

can we hang vika

[whole snow]

like range

[whole snow]

why?

wdym

[lament gyro]

43 x reactions

[brisk marlin]

Id say leave blink as it is now, it's fairly solid

[lament gyro]

50 for execution

[whole snow]

because this stupid community don’t get the point

they all think that i say nerf everything and leave ordinary shot

because they are just monkeys

[lament gyro]

psychic is prime chrollo on steriods

[whole snow]

The herd

[whole snow]

HAHSHDJAGAHAH

BSHFJAHSHAHA

DJSOPAWHEGSHHWS

EJEJSHAHAHAJIWHSHS

[lament gyro]

spam

ban ban

[whole snow]

this is so fun

[lament gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-suggestion-bad-noob-studio-crushed-explosion-meme-funny-discord-gif-24905824

[whole snow]

because of people like you game will die

[lament gyro]

fym like me

[whole snow]

i repeat 1 more time

[lament gyro]

ranked is just psychic or cyber

no giant no lazy worker

[brisk marlin]

Little twats who can't stand a style having competitive advantage

[whole snow]

i say there are tons moves which can be countered only with moves
that’s why

1. remove ability resist
   OR
2. nerf all of them and then add longer wind up for ordinary shot

[whole snow]

AHAHAH WDYM CYBER CYBER IS 100% BALANCED

THE ONLY THING ABOUT NEW CHARACTERS WHICH IS HARD TO COUTBER IS ORDINARY SHOT

WKSJSHAHAHAHFW

nah that’s crazy how roblox community can be stupid and does not understand things like this it’s not that hard fr

[whole snow]

.

can’t you read?

[brisk marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/idiots-server-this-server-is-full-of-idiots-discord-gif-15904086506198285208

[whole snow]

but because of this community all good and unique styles or maybe even zones like animalistic get nerfed to the ground

because you don’t use any logic

[brisk marlin]

Animalistic + sniper still peak tho

[whole snow]

“i can’t block ordinary shot you need to predict”
okay then what will you do with cursed dash? creator dribble? street dribble? YOU CANT EVEN PREDICT THEM

[whole snow]

blockable

and they removed abilitynjump boost

as i know

[brisk marlin]

Blockable but it's still peak for looking cool

[whole snow]

no sense tho

[brisk marlin]

Yeah, copycat + chaos should be used more often

Shorter cooldown with copy

[whole snow]

zones also are super boring

i made an op concept about zones

[brisk marlin]

Sent a link to it, imma upvote

[whole snow]

nobody gets it tho

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1405578399967346768

[whole snow]

they only cry that they can’t counter psychic shot or even funnier saying confusion is op

nobody cares about rly good concepts

[brisk marlin]

I js read through it and its so peak

[whole snow]

exactly

nobody cares tho they only cries about psychic

[brisk marlin]

It made me notice that ordinary is just a better chaos

[whole snow]

i mean

ye kinda

but they have different buffs

[brisk marlin]

I mean on the case of they have the same gimmick with CD reduction

[whole snow]

like Chaos is
Faster shots release
10% cd
faster on ball speed

and ordinary is
15% cd
off ball speed
4 dribbles

[orchid shard]

yk

[whole snow]

yes

[orchid shard]

instead of just 2 options

how about the 3rd option

removing all the limiteds.

[whole snow]

kinda stupid

[orchid shard]

heh .

[brisk marlin]

No cuz then the purple that got them lose the stuff they used material on

How bro looked coming up with that

https://tenor.com/view/missed-shot-basketball-lakers-gif-11423573

[whole snow]

it’s so boring that there is nothing new about zones no interesting passives just random buffs combo

since speed dribble released

nothing new

or wait good dunks also

but they got removed

[brisk marlin]

We need a zone that can change the way your passes fly fr, like giant overhead arc passes instead of the mostly straight ones we usually have

[whole snow]

i mean there are tons of interesting buffs

[orchid shard]

pls dont

[whole snow]

for example i like egos in gb

they kinda unique

almost every ego has its own passive

like volley shots increased or can tackle teammate

curve increase

etc

but even tho

they are not that unique as could be

but they are kinda the most unique “flows” which i saw

for example genius ego gives you cd reset if you feint smb

but mostly all games does the same sh

just random buffs combo

[lament gyro]

are you perchance acoustic?

[whole snow]

and even more sad

[brisk marlin]

A domination zone which forces the next pass from your team to go to you 🗣🔥🔥

[lament gyro]

i said that ranked is filled with them

[whole snow]

that there is nothing cool about even limited zones

[lament gyro]

not that cyber is unbalanced

anyways this is mid

[whole snow]

Cyber is only usable for bug abuse now ig

in 2 v 2

and awk ofc

• implantes

[whole snow]

these made him unique

[lament gyro]

ordinary shot nerf when

[whole snow]

remove ability resist

that would be fair

[last radish]

How is it not op????

[whole snow]

OMG DID YOU RRAD THE POST?

REREAD

REREAD

I

NEVER

SAID

THAT

ITS

NOT

OP

[last radish]

You just named other strong abilities

"Stop saying psychic is broken"

[whole snow]

I SAID THERE ARE TONS OF ABILITIES WHICH GIVES YOU FREE POINTS

[orchid shard]

Nice yap.

[whole snow]

SO JUST REMOVE ABILITY RESIST FOR ORDINARY SHOT
ORRR
NERF ALL OF THEM AND ADD LONGER WIND UP FOR THIS SHOT

[whole snow]

because almost every style has free points abilities which are almost impossible to counter

why wouldn’t psychic have?

btw don’t forget that both styles doesn’t even have any dribble moves

[last radish]

This is known

[whole snow]

or guaranteed steals

or iframes ignore steals

or smth else

[last radish]

It's basically unblockable qith little to no wind up

Nobody said it should be removed

It should be nerfed tho

[whole snow]

how will you block Cursed dash Creator Dribble Street dribble?

it’s not just almost impossible

it’s literally impossible

[last radish]

Cursed dash isn't auto aim

[whole snow]

BUT

IF YOU

[last radish]

And how to you want to block dribble moves

[whole snow]

STAY IN THE RECTANGLE

AND CAMPING WITH SNATCH BLOCK

YOU CAN

BUUUUT

THATS WHY I SAY

[last radish]

That's a skill issue lol

[whole snow]

NERF SHOULD BE

ABILITY RESIST REMOVE

[whole snow]

THATS THE ONLY WAYYY

blink emperor reach or snatch block maybe also instinct dash

there is no way you can counter all those abilities

[whole snow]

OKAY?

OR IF YOU RLY THINK THAT FREE POINTS ARE PROBLEM

THEN NERF ALL OF THEM

and then yes add longer wind up

[last radish]

This is literally a skill issue what

[whole snow]

for ordinary shot

[whole snow]

try to counter those abilities without these abilities

[waxen junco]

Uh please can you say these but in shorter way?

I ain't reading allat

[last radish]

"Defense moves do defense stuff"🧌

[whole snow]

Tons of abilities which gives you free points
so why psychics shouldn’t have one?

1. remove ability resist so you can counter with snatch block sky leap blink hangs up etc
   OR
2. nerf all of them and add longer wind up for him

[last radish]

All the shooting moves except ult moves can be blocked quite easily if you understand

[empty otter]

Me when I'm a psychic crutch:

[waxen junco]

So you want to nerf sniper that's slow like a turtle? Or uncle sam cannon

[last radish]

Deadass

[whole snow]

WHAT ATR YOU TALIING ABOUT

IM SAYING

STREET DRIBBLE

CURSED DASH

CREATOR DRIBBLE

[waxen junco]

Still allat for me to read please make it shorter

[last radish]

That's not a shooting move

Genius

[whole snow]

AND TONS OF MORE

ABILITIES

[waxen junco]

Yup he get triggered

[whole snow]

GIVES YOU 3 PT

[last radish]

When does creator's dribble give you a 3 pt?

[whole snow]

OKAY ITS FREE 3 PT + ALSO MOVEMENT WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE BETTER THAN ORDINARY SHOT

[last radish]

What

[whole snow]

AHSHAHAHAHAUAH AINT NO WAY SMB BLOCKS YOU

[waxen junco]

Real it can be keep up now because you can free steal him after the second dribble move

[last radish]

What

[whole snow]

YOU JUST PASS THROUGH EVERYBODY AND STUN THEM JUST A FREE SHOT

THATS THE POINTS

[last radish]

This is where your ability come into play juffy

[whole snow]

YALL DONT EVEN THINK THAT THESE ABIKITIES ARE JUST WAY BRYTER

[last radish]

What

No cuz they still have to be st the 3 point line lol

[whole snow]

“if it’s dribble but not a shooting move it’s okay”
OHHH MB

[whole snow]

YOU CAN DRIBBLE FROM HALF COURT BTW

WHICH IS EVEN MORE OP

[waxen junco]

Eh is this guy rage baiting?

Im curious rn

[last radish]

Dribble moves that goes past you😳

[whole snow]

which gives you

[last radish]

Ehat

[whole snow]

FREE

3

POINTS

so now

look

which is better

[last radish]

Every dribble move does that what do you mean

[whole snow]

1. almost impossible to block ability

2. dribble move + LITTERALLY impossible to block

[waxen junco]

Unless someone super jump and snatch you shot

[whole snow]

RXACTLYYY

THATS WHYYY

I SAY

REMOVE

ABILITY

RESIST

OKAY?

[last radish]

You're bringing up the same arguement

[whole snow]

BECAUSE ITS TRUE

[last radish]

And not listening to mine

[waxen junco]

Okay so what's the topic again

[last radish]

We're talking about shooting moves

[whole snow]

no we are not talking about shooting moves

we are talking about free points moves

that’s a big difference

it can be stun dribble or shooting move

[last radish]

Every moves give you a free point qhat do you mean

[whole snow]

WOW

okay

now

listen

why then

[waxen junco]

#1405587513904468068 psychic are still broken because you can pump fake and use the move to gain iframe which leads to free points still

[whole snow]

psychic have SAME FREE POINTS ABILITY

is broken?

[last radish]

Notice how i can't give you my arguement

[waxen junco]

why don't we remove ordinary shots just like when Chrollo "GREEN!" Got removed from base

[whole snow]

it’s blockable and btw even unblockable shot would be balanced if it can be countered with abilities because it’s just basically almost every dribble move in the game

[whole snow]

AHAHAHAH

[waxen junco]

Blockable≠balance

[whole snow]

GREEN IS

FULL COURT

SHOT

AND ORDINARY IS

[warm musk]

bro its not even saiki

[whole snow]

HARD TO BLOCK SHOT

[last radish]

Why would psychic be able to have a nearly unblockable shot while every other style's shooting move can be block pretty easily and ontop of that psychic can basically inverse your movements

[warm musk]

its js mob

[waxen junco]

Base green isn't full court tho

[warm musk]

thats whats pissing me off

its not saiki the way its supposed to be

[last radish]

It's not that hard to understand

[last radish]

What

[warm musk]

saiki dont got alot of flashy moves

[warm musk]

the moveset

[last radish]

We have a genius over here

We have a genius over here

[whole snow]

try to block green emperor force to shoot move or almost every dribble + shot

i’ll laugh

[last radish]

We got a real genius over here

[waxen junco]

Emperor force shot and ordinary shot has the same speed

[whole snow]

EXACTLY

but ofc ordianry shot is the only op move

so stupid

[waxen junco]

Teleport :

[last radish]

Who said this❓

[whole snow]

what’s wrong with this community

[warm musk]

the genious

[whole snow]

LOOK I AGREE THAT ITS SUPER STRONG

but

the thing is

[warm musk]

who cares how op it is

[limpid canyon]

tbh the most broken thing would be the pass

[whole snow]

it’s balanced SINCE almost every move is impossible to counter

[last radish]

What

[warm musk]

am i the only one who cares that it aint saiki?

[whole snow]

but

[last radish]

It is saiki tho

[whole snow]

all of those moves

[limpid canyon]

Psychic is saiki

[whole snow]

can be countered

[last radish]

Are you blind?

[warm musk]

are u ok?

[whole snow]

with defensive abilities

[warm musk]

have u watched the show

[waxen junco]

True power:
Teleport:
Teleport pass:
Self pass :

[whole snow]

it has even accessory

[last radish]

Yes lol

[limpid canyon]

Wdym mate it’s based off of psychic sir idiot

[last radish]

Tell me how it's not saiki

[warm musk]

ok then u know that most of those moves not even like saiki

bro look

saikis moves aint flashy

[limpid canyon]

Blah blah blah copyright idiot

[waxen junco]

There literally his headphones thing in his head

[warm musk]

they js calm and not very exposing pyysic abilities

[last radish]

Are we ignoring that he literally can do anything

[waxen junco]

how come it's not saiki?

[warm musk]

u not getting my point

[whole snow]

named 2 awk moves

1. JUST A GUARANTEED PASS I MEAN ALMOST EVERY CHARACTER HAS A GUARANTEED PASS
2. AND A FRKN MOVEMENT WHICH CANT BE EVEN CONTROLLED AS FOR EXAMLE CURSED DASH OR INSTINST DASH

[last radish]

https://tenor.com/view/saiki-saiki-k-saiki-rain-kusuo-rain-gif-17064088863418276226

[limpid canyon]

Yeah if you use him and go into a match it’s got his weakened things in the game idiot

[warm musk]

the moveset more based of mob then saiki lets be honest

[waxen junco]

I ain't read that allat

[limpid canyon]

It’s really not

[warm musk]

but look sum calm

[warm musk]

the head grab??

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho100-grab-face-mob100percent-anime-gif-17364038

[whole snow]

so if we want to nerf it then we should remove the ability resistance

BUT IF WE WANT LONGER WINDUP
WE SHOULD NERF EVERYBODY

[last radish]

Ok

[warm musk]

the same impact frams too

[last radish]

?

[whole snow]

because you are stupid

[limpid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/saiki-saiki-k-saiki-kusuo-gif-22970488

[last radish]

It's clearly both lol

[waxen junco]

My guy want to nerf chuck at this point

[limpid canyon]

It’s got his lil power weakeners

[warm musk]

i know that

[limpid canyon]

It’s based off saiki

[warm musk]

ik the psyic is off saiki

[last radish]

The ult literally has nendo too

[whole snow]

are you stupid ? i litteraly listed moves which are impossible or hard to counter

[warm musk]

yall not getting it

[whole snow]

most of them should be nerfed then

[warm musk]

ik that its saiki

[last radish]

Why are you so smart

[waxen junco]

said the one who has 45❌ which is terrible than that one chrollo buff suggestions

[warm musk]

but the moves aint like his ones in the show

[limpid canyon]

lol

[warm musk]

like look at cyber

[limpid canyon]

THATS BECUZ HE DONT PLAY BASKETBALL

[warm musk]

and how close it is too his moves in the anime

[whole snow]

just because this community is stupid and can’t understand simple things

[last radish]

David plays basketball?

[waxen junco]

My guy you know right that "S" word of you can get you muted?

[warm musk]

and neither does david

[limpid canyon]

you expect him to lift up a car with his powers and dump it on their head or something then?

[waxen junco]

Please delete it before mod see it.

[last radish]

All David does is run around

[warm musk]

i mean its not like sum saiki would do

make it more realistic