Nerf Psychic.

[narrow verge]

Like bro

Any good player not getting block with ordinary shot

Like

[hearty mason]

As far as I'm aware, the number I've heard for the wind is 0.44 sec (pre "great" rebalance), but tbh the small movement animation with the only vxf appearing as the ball leaves their hand is kinda ridiculous. The fact that you should HAVE to predict your opponent's shot that can't be blocked by moves, has a small block window, extremely fast windup, and hard to see animations when they also have access to pump fake is kinda not reasonable.

Especially when Psychic already has 3 other completely unique moves in its base.

No other styles have moves that act the same way.

fr tho, ordinary shot would be a whole style on its own with the amount of slop they piled on it.

[narrow verge]

Way too slow for pre balanced

It was frame 1

For pre nerf

And became frame 6

0.44

is like

Way slower but yea

[narrow verge]

Bro some people in here said

“You have skill issues if you can’t predict what your opponent going to do”

Like dawg

That basically translate to “He need to use the move when I jump or else im cooked”

cause the psychic user don’t need to use it when they use their 3 dribbles

They can use it right away when they get the ball

Or after 1 dribble

Or 2 dribble

You need to pray

[hearty mason]

fr, you can only really predict it when you're fighting someone who's completely crutched by it. The moment you go against a player who has 2 braincells to rub together, they just start varying when they shoot the ball, making you rely on reaction rather than prediction.

[narrow verge]

What

You mean predictions rather than reaction

[hearty mason]

You can only reliably predict that they're going to use the 3 pointer when they continue to follow the same pattern of dribbling the 3 times, up to the 3 point line, then shooting. If they decide to start shooting after 1 dribble, or 2, or pump fake, any vary at all, you have to start relying on reaction because you don't know when they're gonna shoot. Relying on reaction is way harder because it means you need to be watching them for their 3 point anim, which are rather unnoticeable until its already too late.

[narrow verge]

Nah bro reaction mean nothing

Prediction more accurately

You have to jump before they use the move

if you jump when you see them use the move might as well look at the hoop cause they finna score

[hearty mason]

Oh, like the move is faster than the time it takes for your block frames to initiate?

[narrow verge]

Yea bro

You didnt know that?

[hearty mason]

I'll say, I've been in situations like that

I think that might have to do with ping

[narrow verge]

It frame 1 pre nerf

And frame 6 post nerf

That mean nothing

[narrow verge]

Here the thing

They use it

You press the jump

[hearty mason]

You might have to be in like 10 ping server (fictional enviroment) to block it off reaction

[narrow verge]

And it depends on how fast your device register that you click

[narrow verge]

*Sci Fi Environments

[hearty mason]

It is ridiculous, and I don't know why psychic should have that move in the first place. It already has 3 other really good moves that all do unique helpful things, but the style also needs some of the best offense in the game bc being the best support wasn't enough.

[narrow verge]

Yea

Well ordinary shot nerf

Let me show how slow it is

[hearty mason]

Not enough.

[narrow verge]

Or if it even slow at all

[hearty mason]

My friend plays ethical psychic (he just doesn't bother using ordinary shot), and he plays perfectly fine, better than most. Literally just learning how to use the teleport effectively lets you get so many nasty blocks and steals. Then you've got the tp pass which prevents literally any pass intercepts. Confusion is also crazy, probably not as crazy now with the nerf, but still suitable for defense and offense.

[narrow verge]

Crazy

[hearty mason]

Still easily less than a second

[narrow verge]

Why cant style have windup time for shot like chrollo green anymore

[hearty mason]

idk, but I have my doubts about chrollo being capable of further balance if this is the great rebalance. The issue was never legendaries and below being too weak, it was mythic and above being too strong.

[narrow verge]

Like we went from perfection 3 points which is fair enough to block

Except if youre doing this

[hearty mason]

I'm pretty sure you can't block perfect shot if you're the one they used the dribble on, anyone else can block it quite easily tho.

[narrow verge]

Except if the perfection uses a half court shot

[hearty mason]

what?

[narrow verge]

A half court shot perfection

[hearty mason]

what on earth did they do to the balance?
what tech is this?

[narrow verge]

Mind you

[hearty mason]

Perfection was shooting shots at like 1-1.5 sec upon using the second half of the move.

[narrow verge]

You can also do that chrollo green

[hearty mason]

Ik, i've seen it with green

[narrow verge]

Because they use it the dribble in the paint

[hearty mason]

idk how to do this tech

[narrow verge]

The game think they want to dribble normally

But when they dribble out of the paint

It activate 3 points shot

Making it half court

So if no one stay near the half court line

It free 3

[hearty mason]

huh

[narrow verge]

Yea

He use perfect dribble out of the paint

And because it dribble out of the paint activate 3 points

And it half court

[hearty mason]

so it just has to do with player location and direction? You have to be in the paint, direct the first half of the move to shove you out, and it will keep pushing all the ways to half court?

[narrow verge]

Yea

Stay in the paint

But near the 3 points line perfect step out

And then 3 points

[hearty mason]

yeesh, I thought it just magnetized you to the 3 point line to do the animation

[narrow verge]

If you do perfect step near 3 points and out

It can look like what it is in the video

And lord if no one is at the half court line

Nobody blocking you

You literally can see in the video

[hearty mason]

definitely not without moves

[narrow verge]

There 2 people on him

He just stun them

And move all the way to the half court line

[hearty mason]

prolly only another cell could stop that reliably.

[narrow verge]

Yea

like giant can snatch a normal perfect step 3 points

But aint snatching a half court perfect step 3 points

[hearty mason]

fr

[brazen sparrow]

They nerfed nothing that needed to be nerfed on psychic

I was expecting the tp and pass to be nerfed

But confusion?

[narrow verge]

Yea

[grizzled quail]

yeah they keep nerfing the shot when im seeing more people use tp because i think it has a slightly lower cd+more versatile

idk about the lower cd tho

[tall spindle]

Bro depends

[delicate ether]

.

[heavy wraith]

Confusion Def deserved it tho

Yes the teleport pass is strong

But confusion can negate awakening abilities too

The move works how the technical zone works but 100% and it inverts move, 5 seconds too

And it didn't let u shoot

It was basically a ranged block too

One of the strongest, if not the strongest move

And rn confusion is fine I guess

"You can pass out of this" oh yall haven't seen those lock combos with psychic holy

It was free candy😭 😭

[heavy wraith]

But yes I also expected tp to be nerfed

[heavy wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1386142724968939610/1424462596966187139/92bb335af614dca3f7f2997d6e51a35b_1.mp4?ex=68e409ac&is=68e2b82c&hm=40ef0125be05a6fa019960afd0ba96604cbda977e53f29c128a5c0325fc68af5&

[sand quail]

Also doesn’t the windup feel a bit faster or is it just me

[narrow verge]

15 percent nerf btw

So it went from

Frame 1

Frame 6

Or 0.1

To 0.2

To 0.3

WTH

okay

Chrollo expects all of us to have f1 driver reflex

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

[heavy wraith]

Yep

F1 driver is normal human reaction tho

If u compared it to like a pro gk in like the world cup it would be maybe 150

150 is generous

[narrow verge]

Tell them to go block ordinary shot 3 times in a row

They not doing it

[heavy wraith]

The pro gks?😭

Lowkey that might be a good way to train gks

On reaction tjme

Js give them pre pre nerfed ordinary shot lmao

[narrow verge]

10 of them try it and 11 of them gonna fail

[heavy wraith]

Real

[narrow verge]

assumed the ping environment is 1 (sci fi moment) they still aint blocking it 3 timez in a row

[heavy wraith]

Ordinary shot is even more op cuz

U can rotate the hitbox

[narrow verge]

What

[heavy wraith]

By js looking back basically

Or

[narrow verge]

OH

[heavy wraith]

Fake it by spinning alot

[narrow verge]

I see

[narrow verge]

Lol

[heavy wraith]

And then a dribble

To waste blocks

Or 2x dribble and immediate shot

[narrow verge]

A normal person with 2 braincells with pre pre nerf ordinary shot vs 10 gks pro and 11 gks pro gonna fail

[heavy wraith]

9/10 it goes in

[narrow verge]

Or get the ball immediately and use it

thrre just no counter play other than pray that when you jump they use it

[heavy wraith]

U think lev yashin can block pre pre nerf Ordinary shot?

[narrow verge]

Not a single person

[heavy wraith]

Or like neuer

[narrow verge]

Unless they are a psychic themself

[heavy wraith]

Or buffon

[narrow verge]

Unless they can read whoever the other person mind when they using ordinary shot

[heavy wraith]

To beat psychic, you must be a psychic yourself

[narrow verge]

THAT WHAT IM SAYING

[heavy wraith]

"To beat me, you must think like me." -2 braincell child after using awakening

[narrow verge]

If you not me you not perfect typa ahh sentence

or the other way around

[heavy wraith]

Ace ahh

"The only one who can beat me is me"

[narrow verge]

It funny some people can just say to other that they have skill issues because they can’t predict when the psychic uses ordinary shot

“Just predict when they use it bro”

Aka

“Just read the future”

[heavy wraith]

I'd like to see those people play 3v3s

Just 1 or 2 matches

No hard feelings

No faking

No taking only the best matches just the current

2 matches

[narrow verge]

Really

Only 2

[heavy wraith]

(If they even encounter psychic they kinda rare)

I see like 1 MAYBE 2 in a lobby

In pro servers there's 80% 1

[heavy wraith]

Who plays more than 2 tbh

The queue is annoying

[narrow verge]

The only way you can actually block a psychic ordinary shot consistently is by TRIPLE TEAMING THEM

AND taking turn jumping

that the only way

[heavy wraith]

Honestly they should add audio cue

When it's first used

So like when I hear the audio I basically jump

[narrow verge]

The visual effect happen after the shot and ball goes up

So you can’t even use that

Same thing goes to audio visual

[heavy wraith]

No like

When c is pressed

A sound releases

[narrow verge]

Just make shot wind up as long as chrollo

green base move 100 percent

[heavy wraith]

Isn't chrollos instant too?

Oh

[narrow verge]

Near 3 points line

[winter grail]

Would be buns

[narrow verge]

like when did we went from that

[heavy wraith]

Ehhh

[narrow verge]

TO

[heavy wraith]

0.8s

[narrow verge]

RUBBERMAN HALF COURT

ORDINARY SHOT

[heavy wraith]

Or 0.7

Rn it's like

0.38

So js double it and then maybe we got a chance against it

[narrow verge]

That chrollo windup

Almost

[heavy wraith]

No?

Wait

Do u mean awakening green

[narrow verge]

Base green near 3 poiny

The 100 percent

[heavy wraith]

That's like

[winter grail]

Butchering the shot

[heavy wraith]

1-1.3

[narrow verge]

The thing is you can use it half court

[heavy wraith]

That's almost perfect arc

[narrow verge]

Perfect arc buff rahhh

[winter grail]

Keep in mind that green from chrollo has mobility

[narrow verge]

Make it harder

cause chrollo moving around

[heavy wraith]

Remove animalistic combo on sniper but add offball quick release and a pre shot

To perfect arc

Like it's offball and if u get the ball right as u shoot

It's shot

So it's similar to awakening chem

But in base with more coordination

And it's blockable

And obvious

That would revive sniper

[winter grail]

Sounds like buns

The sniper is gonna be in shooting motion if he gets marked he's gonna be getting mega blocked

A feint to perfect arc sounds better to me

[narrow verge]

A passive to perfect arc would be nice

[winter grail]

It already got it's passive

[narrow verge]

What

What da passive

[winter grail]

It's faster with every successful shot

[narrow verge]

Bruhhh

[honest raven]

PSYCHIC didn't get nerfed that bad y'all cooked

[narrow verge]

When player reaction time have to always be under 0.4 seconds

[grizzled quail]

so we nerf the shot but not the tp which is arguably better overall 😭

[narrow verge]

Lol

[mild niche]

So like it got nerfed...now y'all want to it to be nerfed again?

[mild niche]

Psychic can shoot from half court now ?

[covert drift]

Gave it a slap on the wrist

Man f dis dude

[winter grail]

More like a deep 3

[covert drift]

Craziest match of my life

[vapid crater]

196-176 is crazy

[marsh mesa]

gah dayum 🥀

[heavy wraith]

BTW this is faster than a smash bros luigi grab💀

Luigi is like 25 or 27 frames I forgot

[narrow verge]

Next update they gonna nerf psychic shot “slightly”

make it 0.4 seconds wind up instead of 0.38

[covert drift]

Interesting moments

Also no vamp 🥹

[narrow verge]

If you gonna send a two minutes clip

At least tell us what part is interesting

[covert drift]

Every part

[narrow verge]

Bro IT JUST YOU PLAYING

WHAT THE INTERESTING

[covert drift]

Also who complaining abt 120 seconds of footage 💀

Deadahh 2 minutes

Chill out

[narrow verge]

Like gang

But what the interesting part

I just watched it

It just a clip of you playing and using gold awk

i mean like the awk is cool

But why didn’t you use gold 3 points during his awk

[covert drift]

Getting someone from behind me with gold ult 🤑

[covert drift]

Wasn't sure if someone was behind me prepping the block

[narrow verge]

Crazy

[narrow verge]

Bruh

[covert drift]

Ya never rlly know tbh

Das why i don't use fake drive dat much

Can't lose aura by getting blocked

[narrow verge]

Bruh

[compact acorn]

GUYSS LOOK POLL

It psychic got nerf

I hope you reached

[narrow verge]

Nerf psychic ordinary shot by 0.01 seconds

[honest raven]

I mean we should be talking about ref

It's way more busted then psychic

[molten girder]

Bro ngl psychic shouldn't get a nerf

Yall fr got skill issues if you can't predict it

And who tf said perfection needed a BUFF

Ts ragebait ngl

[hearty mason]

For once I feel as though the community might get what's up. Identifying the styles most in need of nerfs and voting accordingly? Ain't no way.

[molten girder]

Fr bro. WHY TF DOES PERFECTION NEED A BUFF

Psychic doesn't need a nerf, it basically balances other styles out. Ref lowkey might need a nerf, but just a minor tweak to his bench ability and a buff to his book dunk ability (should probably be a 3 point variant and a 2 point variant)

[hearty mason]

There was no sarcasm in my statement. I meant what I said. Psychic has been an unfair mess since release, if it had one of its moves just completely removed, it would still be the best style because it has 3 other amazing moves. Ref is also just annoying. Big aoe ball stopper on top of a dash that stuns literally anyone near it that goes a long distance. Its just release Chrollo dash, but a bit shorter.

idk why they're tweaking perfection when they haven't even dropped its new move tbh

[molten girder]

That's fair Ig

I mean tbh

You can easily catch up

Because most psychic users are buns tbh

And they don't know how to use their abilities properly

[hearty mason]

100% true that the majority of psychic players are carried. I want their crutches removed, they must learn to ball on their own

[narrow verge]

Predict??

The heck

When did this game became reaction base to block

To straight up pray that when you jump the opponent use the move???

Any good psychic player aint using the shot on their 3rd dribble or their last dribble if they use a zone that gives them extra dribble

They can use ordinary shot when they just got the ball pass to them, after 1 dribble or two dribble

like bro

It legit luck if you block it and not reaction

[narrow verge]

They want this and this to get a buff

You fr bro

[winter grail]

No one mentioned blink twin he said a new move

Perfect step should be easy blocks the moment you see the dribble happen js saying

and again he said a new move not either of those two 💔

[brave light]

perfection is mid bro 😭

[narrow verge]

I wonder what the new move is

They teasing

How the heck im i supposed to block this

[winter grail]

I block those twin I'm on 12 ping

[narrow verge]

(Fictional environment)

[winter grail]

Virtual*

[narrow verge]

It a good day when im under 50 ping

[winter grail]

Ethernet cord, good PC, good router, play on your servers should be fine

[hearty mason]

Didn't the poll come out as Perfection getting a small buff? That's what kinda confuses me as to why they would go to buff perfection despite not implementing its new move. What balance is there to bring if we don't know how the current changes are going to workout?

[narrow verge]

Like perfection got half court

Rahh

[grizzled quail]

pyschic dont need a nerf these negative elo bots need to stop voting on polls 💔

[compact acorn]

What about uh teleport pass will nerf or keep it?

[narrow verge]

The distance a bit

Imo

[compact acorn]

Like phantom?

[compact acorn]

Teleport pass keep like phantom but no one steal with style?

[narrow verge]

Yea

[compact acorn]

Oh... I see

[narrow verge]

Like phantom mechanic rahhh

It a psychic so like they can imagine the ball passing through people

[compact acorn]

Teleport and ordinary shot will nerf but teleport pass keep it not nerf?

[narrow verge]

If they use teleport pass they see a open teammate and pass it

Encouraging teamwork

Im fine with that

[compact acorn]

Yup many player want nerf psychic because of strongest than copycat

[narrow verge]

Ordinary shot and teleport

Uhhh

Not so much

[compact acorn]

I see

And lock style almost nerf

[narrow verge]

Lock style maybe make range lower

But lock get countered by some style alresdy

[compact acorn]

Yea I was use lock but I tried use first move on full court in past

[narrow verge]

Yuh

[compact acorn]

If you did after score and u pass him but he steal u long range

Lock kinda strong with first move

[compact acorn]

It is half court or full for first move after score he pass them

[narrow verge]

Yea

[compact acorn]

Andddd

Jackpot won't fixed again cause of bug

[narrow verge]

Hm

[delicate ether]

B

[molten girder]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[narrow verge]

Bruh

[sacred laurel]

back old V move psychic pls💔

[hearty mason]

its as if they're incapable of nerfing ordinary shot to be blockable by moves.

[narrow verge]

Ordinary shot goes up 67 meters in the air

how the heck does any move supposed to block that

[hearty mason]

most block moves are preemptive or have increased block frames. You use it to block the shot as its being made. That and Cell wouldn't makem uch differencew

[narrow verge]

Unless they change the shot so that it doesn’t go up that high

And a little lower

Like any other shot in game

Then we could

[hearty mason]

So like, you use the block move when the ball first leaves their hand, not when its 67 meters up. Like emperor's clutch, spider sense, and the ref defense move should be able to block it. If you're mid giant leap or star leap you should be able to intercept the ball right as it gets shot. Idk why perfection just can't block that one specifically, you can cross court block an in form Chrollo green as long as you're next to the person that shot it.

[narrow verge]

You can block with snatch and star leap i thinm

You just have to read into the future and use it when they use the shot

[hearty mason]

its probably easier than just using normal block though, on account of them having more block frames.

[narrow verge]

Yea still hard

[thick relic]

You do realize he said he’s removing blink
And perfects dribble without the shot is trash

[thick relic]

And this is 100% able to be blocked
And its easy once you see what they’re trying to do

[thick relic]

Ngl teleport needs the nerf
Can’t even pass without worrying about it

[compact acorn]

Ohhh I saw

When I watch tiktok

And she steal then back like vampire move

Teleport is probably bug for steal then back

And steal from ur pass

[compact acorn]

I think it bug for teleport steal then back like vampire's timeskip dash + back or stole ur pass from player and

[thick relic]

Its just crazy to me how every move on psychic has something op about it lol

[compact acorn]

It only pc

Teleport steal on player then back for pc

[thick relic]

?
That was a public server

[compact acorn]

Pc and mobile for stole ur pass like this u record

[thick relic]

Oh mb im dumb

[compact acorn]

This

This for pc and mobile teleport

[compact acorn]

It probably bug

Not tech

[thick relic]

Ah is chrollo aware of the bug

[compact acorn]

Alr but do not say tech on psychic it bug

I wish dev will hear for psychic is bug

[thick relic]

Im ok with psychic if the bugs are fixed
And the invert gets removed if you have the ball

[compact acorn]

Hmm you are right teleport will removed then turn into ordinary shot

[thick relic]

Teleports getting removed?

[compact acorn]

Yes probably bug I will show TikTok soon

Look I already record from TikTok

@thick relic

That teleport is not tech actually bug

And why developer don't have TikTok for not read bug

[thick relic]

But what about where he teleported to my side and grabbed the pass before the wall even went down

[compact acorn]

Yes

They show teleport is not tech actually they learn and then stole ur pass

On TikTok not video

Probably developer didn't watch tiktok

[thick relic]

In this he was brought back to his last location
The videos the teleport worked as it should

[compact acorn]

Yes it only pc

Or Xbox

Let me show report on bbz qa

And thank you for telling about psychic steal ur pass

[thick relic]

I just thought id mention it because ive seen it a lot

And no one talks about it

[compact acorn]

Alr

I won't talk much

[thick relic]

Nah its cool

Thanks for the info about the teleport I thought it was a tech

[compact acorn]

That not tech actually bug if u show and they report

[heavy wraith]

Blink also does that on like refs 3pt shot

[compact acorn]

I see

[wet egret]

You are a very dedicated person

i respect that epic

[narrow verge]

Huh

[covert drift]

Bro yoinked it 😭

[dry lantern]

David users when person not dribbling for 1 nano second:

[covert drift]

LOL 😭

[narrow verge]

Robbed my man in broad daylight

[covert drift]

LOL 😭

[delicate ether]

Hmm

[heavy wraith]

David users when they could actually pull this off irl instead and rob a bank and get rich instead of being on bbz

Talent

[covert drift]

Das crazy

[dusky arch]

Hey guys where to put like suggestion nerf

Fb

Who agree to nerf tatlis

[wet egret]

they shouldve fully obliterated luffy

ion wanna see that freedom pushing

bouncing

story-beat glazed

little BUM

i never wanna see one piece in MY DUMB BASKETBALL GAME EVER AGAIN, I HATE HIM

I wanna see at the end of the story a big man grab luffy by the hair and just drag him to the sea and drown him

for an entire chapter

bleach wipes that piece of nothing