Chrollo, please never make a style/zone ever again

[formal mango]

I don't even use Uncle Sam

I just wanted to dunk with him

[rustic osprey]

Doesn't need to be stolen with jackpot steal

you can BLOCK IT

[formal mango]

I know

[rustic osprey]

Its so sad

how can you make a character whose every move can be countered easily

[chrome silo]

uncle sam or psychic

who are YOU playing

[formal mango]

Uncle Sam

[chrome silo]

star shot is so easy to block

[formal mango]

I can't get accused of spamming with him

[chrome silo]

eagle drive all you need is to be under hoop

[rustic osprey]

I didn't get psychic but got his zone 😐

[chrome silo]

cannon pass is just the normal pass move

[formal mango]

It can be countered by anyone who can snatch block (Star and Giant)

[chrome silo]

for a move named star shot

[rustic osprey]

and jackpot steal

[chrome silo]

it goes nowhere near the stars

[formal mango]

I thought since it was a "Unblockable" pass even if you did one of those steals it'd still pass

[chrome silo]

i wish they made uncle sam more like

not so olden time

[rustic osprey]

me too

[chrome silo]

ik 4th of july is about history

[formal mango]

They made him too modern

[chrome silo]

but holy we dont need a cannon for 2/3 move

[formal mango]

Uncle Sam did NOT go around flying in a helicopter every day 💔

[chrome silo]

he has ONE modern move😭

[formal mango]

Shhh

Modern is modern

[rustic osprey]

they should just rework him comepletely ngl

[chrome silo]

they couldve made him feel more

less old

[chrome silo]

they are NOT reworking a limited

maybe theyll do it for like

an american holiday

[rustic osprey]

then buff the f out of him idc

[chrome silo]

like thanksgiving

[formal mango]

Thanksgiving gonna be a turkey style

Trust

[chrome silo]

tbh i just want his moves with new vfx and anims

and make eagle drive unblockable

[rustic osprey]

and change his star shot cuz its cheeks

free block

[chrome silo]

the dumbest thing ive seen in the game

why do you make a menu for declaration

when you can only choose 1 move

[formal mango]

Didn't they silently buff the speed of it

Before it took three business days

[rustic osprey]

Doesn't matter xd

almost no diffrence still a free block sadly

[formal mango]

Does confuse me how a hand blocks a cannon tho

[chrome silo]

i might make an uncle sam refresh suggestion

[rustic osprey]

please do I only see buff spider buff perfection and older styles but never uncle sam

[chrome silo]

https://tenor.com/view/kuroko-no-basuke-knb-basketball-gif-21397552

[rustic osprey]

When once was playing with Uncle Sam and someone deadass asked me what style am I playing and if its new

Its that forgotten

seen at least thrice more perfections than uncle sams

understandably so

[chrome silo]

least played style is either uhhh

quick

chuck

or unc sam

[formal mango]

I see more chucks than Uncle Sams

[pallid trail]

Put LW there too

[rustic osprey]

There are many quicks ngl and i have seen a couple more chucks than Uncle Sams

[whole frigate]

Just play NBA 2K then lmao

[shy granite]

this is an awful argument

if youre gonna make a basketball game at least add some basketball styles

not like your argument holds up anyway since theyve already confirmed that theyre adding more grounded styles

[chrome silo]

ryujiji

help me make a unc sam suggestion twan

[shy granite]

why do you even need my help for that

i dont like uncle sam

[chrome silo]

im not creative

[chrome silo]

why

[shy granite]

not my thing

[chrome silo]

NO REALLY

nobody likes it

im trying to figure out why

so i can suggest how to fix it

DUHHHH

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371830311603671111/1415044898997932074/togif.gif

i think i hurt ryujiji’s feelings

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[shy granite]

no i just cant be bothered

ask someone else

i dont have any interest in making suggestions

[whole frigate]

srry bro

[whole frigate]

I feel like b4 they should add grounded styles, they should make their game more basketball-like

but the way this game works, I think that'd gotta be done in maybe a hardcore gamemode, or smth

I dont think theyll ever do that any time soon

[quartz lava]

Fr
Compared to other basketball games I've seen ts is basically an arcade game

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a style where you gotta play fnf for the ult

[whole frigate]

Exactly, and with this we get back to playing NBA 2K

I dont mean to say that the game is bad

but what do you want with basketball-like styles in a basketball-unlike game

[potent crag]

It's basketball.

God forbid I expect basketball

[whole frigate]

Well, you could say its a very simplified version of Basketball combined with a lot of fantasy

but I'd never call something like that Basketball

[fast zinc]

this is jump force but fighting over a ball now

[ivory mountain]

ANOTHER counter move

ANOTHER auto steal

[noble pike]

freeze is the most balanced thing eevr'

[jovial rover]

🥀🥀🥀

[fast zinc]

he literally makes it appealing to kids and people who rely on broken 💩

remove this

[sick pike]

bro there is NO way chrollos testers allowed this

[jovial rover]

I beat a kid with a limited with a epic 🥀🥀🥀

[fast zinc]

does the words “global cooldown” cross chrollos mind?

and why did they add a psychic teleport variant

[zinc path]

Fr

[dense plover]

Can't even speak about vampire cuz my luck so ahh

130 lucky spins for what 🥀

[somber sleet]

Spent round That much for the flow and got it

But the style in like 10 spins

Vampire is utterly brainless

[dense plover]

Hell nah

[versed lily]

there is a 6 sec gc for freeze

[rustic osprey]

fr they did it to tatlises steal it should be obvious to them they should do the same to vampires freeze bruh

[rustic osprey]

wait really

[versed lily]

yeah

[rustic osprey]

still really small tho

[somber sleet]

You can use the steal with ball or not pmo

[rustic osprey]

doesn't really change anything

[dense plover]

Is vampire actually broken

[median thicket]

yes

[somber sleet]

Yes

[dense plover]

I'm not even surprised anymore

[zealous smelt]

This man Chrollo has got to be the dumbest person alive

[shy granite]

two guaranteed steals bro

[zealous smelt]

No way after all of this complaining he still can't make a good style

[fast zinc]

ig the testers dont care either

[zealous smelt]

The only thing he can do is make broken styles and thinks they're good just because they too op

[fast zinc]

sell the game atp

[noble pike]

i just lost 100-50 to a full team of vampires and its safe to say i lost due to pure , raw , unfiltered talent and skill

[zealous smelt]

Y'all know he doesn't care what the people think as long as people play him game, he clearly doesn't read as of these complaints if he doesn't learn

[noble pike]

and its 100% my fault i couldnt win

[fast zinc]

🤦 people support these broken styles as well

smh

[zealous smelt]

💀

[fast zinc]

i genuinely think freeze can steal the ball back after symbiote snatches

[zealous smelt]

The only people who support it are the little kids who think they LeBron or sum shi

[zealous smelt]

🤣

[zealous smelt]

I'm low key about to just stop playing this game after I get vampire and see if the game gets better

[fast fiber]

Its never gonna

Idk why uou think this

Its not

[fast fiber]

Does all chrollo know and i mean this literally does he all know is adding actual slop styles?? Like just only limited styles and nothing else?

Cause it feels like he’s been adding more slop style after style

[prisma void]

The only balance he ever heard of is his bank account balance

[fast fiber]

Vampire is just another tatlis. Its not original none of these styles are original nothing chrollo is making is original

[obtuse osprey]

said ts was the last limited style for a while

hopefully speaking the truth

hopefully its the last style HE makes in a while

[fast fiber]

you know he lying. As soon as the money runs low he alr getting to making another limited styles

Anything but fixing his game

[placid hornet]

honestly I 100% agree with this suggestion but the game is pretty fun so idrc I'm not a comp player 🤷

[obtuse osprey]

comp dont matter

styles js

ruin everything

[hoary spindle]

both comp and casual players agree

[obtuse osprey]

specifically made by chrollo

you could acc be winning and feeling like pressure from a game then a psychic will js come

[placid hornet]

ur right but it's still kinda fun for me

[obtuse osprey]

and ruin all the fun

[safe compass]

Styles made by chrollo always gotta be the most braindead styles

but it's still fun

I love making people mad

[fast fiber]

The game can be fun. But after a bit it gets annoying. Seriously annoying, cause every style people run is a limited. And now you cant go across the court without it getting stolen even if you dribble

[safe compass]

😍

[obtuse osprey]

they gotta add style bans asap

[placid hornet]

ye tatlis introduces new mechanics and stuff chrollo spams op stuff

[obtuse osprey]

better be 2 minimum style bans

[safe compass]

Yeahhh in especially in ranked

[fast fiber]

Lers not say tatlis is any better than chrollo they both suck

[safe compass]

If 5v5 4 bans each team

[obtuse osprey]

tatlis is better

cyber wasnt too bad

[safe compass]

Nah I am

[placid hornet]

tatlis is definitely better imo

[obtuse osprey]

cyber js has way too many cutscenes

[safe compass]

Cybers good

[obtuse osprey]

only one he made that was ridiculous was tatlis

tatlis awk is basically a guaranteed win

[placid hornet]

it was op when it first released now its barely usable

[obtuse osprey]

no its def usable esp if you get awk off rng

[fast fiber]

Look i just seriously think they both do not care about the game

[placid hornet]

ye his awk op but his base is cheeks

[obtuse osprey]

tatlis dished out the best stuff

chrollo kinda js sat there

picking his nose

and slapping his belly

[placid hornet]

😭

[obtuse osprey]

chrollo is like OBSESSED with half court shots bro

[prisma void]

Im so happy my suggestion has given birth to this suggestion

[placid hornet]

I genuinely think chrollo hates tatlis cuz when the whole style war was going on after a week tatlis got nerfed TO THE GROUND while chrollos green js got nerfed a tiny bit

[safe compass]

Super bro

[obtuse osprey]

SPECIFICALLY unblockable ones

[prisma void]

https://tenor.com/view/brazilian-luffy-dance-gif-14601096355637687758

[obtuse osprey]

psychic half court chrollo half and full court perfection half court sniper half and full court jackpot full court and half court

nvm sniper hes fine js like everyone else is so unneeded

these quotes gotta go bro 💔

[placid hornet]

I think they just need a big rebalancing update they can take however long they need

[obtuse osprey]

chatgpt homework level of thought process on these quotes

[fast fiber]

God the edgy kids are sure gonna love this style

[placid hornet]

when u read sum so corny u jst start crying osns 🥹🥀

[obtuse osprey]

the i isn't even capitalized bro he could've done it on mobile and it would've done it for him 💔

vamp is honestly buns bro

i was spinning for giant

and got it

[fast fiber]

Is it actually a tatlis remake bruh(

[plain prairie]

Biggest joker in roblox btw

[obtuse osprey]

tatlis but on release version

equal to that

[fast fiber]

Oh my god

[obtuse osprey]

his freeze steal has iframes whole animation

[plain prairie]

Bunp

[potent parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-stare-at-paper-gif-5257839294650729742

[plain prairie]

Bump

[obtuse osprey]

and ankle break which means u get ankle broken if you try to steal it on timing

[fast fiber]

Omg

[plain prairie]

bump

Bump

[obtuse osprey]

his dash freezes you too

[fast fiber]

Seriously??

Dont tell me

[obtuse osprey]

and on 2v2 he basically gets a guaranteed dunk with real basketball

[fast fiber]

In its awakening it has a move where everyone on the court is frozen?

[plain prairie]

Wrong image

[obtuse osprey]

yeah u can use it twice if you immediately use the move

[hoary spindle]

im so glad chrollo made it balanced

W chrollo

makes op styles

[fast fiber]

Man another huge W for chrollo

[fast fiber]

Another just huge big ole W

Yk its so amazing

[obtuse osprey]

censoring aint doing nothing bro 🥀

[plain prairie]

Let it happen

I must

I must

Rebel

Agains’t the dumbasses

[obtuse osprey]

kids on the server btw

[hoary spindle]

@broken thistle

[harsh elk]

New style kinda balanced , guaranteed steal , dash that can go back in time in the base kit yeah pretty balanced

[plain prairie]

Snitching is bad

[fast fiber]

Dont forget his awakening also

[broken thistle]

thanks

[hoary spindle]

u saw it?

[plain prairie]

Im very sorry

[fast fiber]

Oh man two timestops

[plain prairie]

Chrollo isn’t dumb

[weak seal]

Holy yap

[plain prairie]

i totally lied there

[broken thistle]

yes

dealt with

[hoary spindle]

no ban???

[harsh elk]

I'm wondering why chrollo still makes non so balanced styles for then nerfing them 2 weeks later

[rustic osprey]

to get that bag

[obtuse osprey]

LOL

[stable ocean]

Because he can obviously

[harsh elk]

Who's spending money on ts?

[obtuse osprey]

he on that bro less than like 15 minutes

[fast fiber]

Quick grabs of money bru

[broken thistle]

if they bypass n word its a mute, if they do it 3 times they get banned

[obtuse osprey]

thats crazy

[hoary spindle]

okay thank you

[broken thistle]

[rustic osprey]

kids cuz most of the bbz players are kids sadly

[stable ocean]

Good man now watch my edit

[obtuse osprey]

if they doing the money thing at least make it guaranteed bro like its only paying for lucky spins

[harsh elk]

Yes but just stay in AFK world and u can easily reach 200k yen a day

[fast fiber]

We all shouldve been known. Chrollo builds up hype drops a style that he swears is balanced puts a little “limited” title on it and everyone goes crazy

[obtuse osprey]

I SPENT 200 LUCKY SPINS TO NOT GET VAMP

[stable ocean]

Been there done that

[fast fiber]

Y’all not tapped in on the meta

Quick and animalistic

[worn willow]

took me like 2 normal spins gng 🙏

[worn willow]

do not tap me in bro

[stable ocean]

"How to lose every match"

[harsh elk]

Hear me out , speed dribble + switcher

[rustic osprey]

I don't think mothers would let their kids pc be turned on for the whole night

[warped torrent]

i mean if its about limiteds, i agree

[worn willow]

js use ur phone then

[harsh elk]

Dude is way cheaper then buying lucky spins

[fast fiber]

Bro its fire

[obtuse osprey]

i spun 5 lucky spins spinning for giant on my other account and got vamp

[rustic osprey]

ik but you can clearly see people are buying stuff in bbz

[harsh elk]

Yes and 2 weeks straight of grinding at night and your battery life is cooked 🥀

[rustic osprey]

its not just styles

[worn willow]

dang

[rustic osprey]

cosmetics too

[obtuse osprey]

i miss jackpot release days 😓

[worn willow]

realistically its not doing substantial damage

[stable ocean]

Hear me out rubber man's observation+ post flow in 2v2s

[harsh elk]

And that's ok , but then just relase cosmetics not OP style every 2 weeks

[harsh elk]

Yes? How do you keep the phone charged? A 100% battery can't last 8hrs

[fast fiber]

You literally have a lot of speed and you a high block range

[worn willow]

mine can easily and most phones within the last 5 years could

[fast fiber]

It pairs well

[worn willow]

or you could also just charge it

[obtuse osprey]

something they do need to fix is cybers try me plus capes bro

[rustic osprey]

thats what I want and apparently will be cuz Chrollo in his qna said they won't be releasing any new limiteds for a while and they will focus on qol and balancing

[stable ocean]

Whatever you say man

[obtuse osprey]

someone used try me with a cape on and it hid the effect to see that they used it

[harsh elk]

Dude my phone can't handle 3hrs SOT

[worn willow]

get a new phone brotato chip 🙏

[harsh elk]

Finally

[harsh elk]

I don't use my phone for gaming just for socials

[worn willow]

then use ur pc

[harsh elk]

I play on ps5

[jolly sparrow]

Chrollo made most disbalanced style

[broken thistle]

this is fire bro

[harsh elk]

Nah u should have seen the chrollo/tatlis upd , the game was literally broken , ppl shooting 3's on their court , or dashing through the whole court , or stealing via Bluetooth

And that's the base kit

[odd knot]

Its prob gonna get rebalanced thi

Thats how it usually goes

Style comes out

[obtuse osprey]

*styleS not style multiple

[odd knot]

Lots of problems with power

[jolly sparrow]

Its was not so hard to counter unlike dio style

[harsh elk]

Oh yeah and snap had the twice the AoE and stun EVERYONE in the goo

[obtuse osprey]

bro goo?

water

its water

[harsh elk]

Snap easy to counter?

[obtuse osprey]

ykw nvm bro goo is better

[harsh elk]

Idc about the liquid it release snap

[harsh elk]

Snap was the most unbalanced ability ever made , stun enemies, u could use the ability off the ball and granting a guaranteed steal and the other guaranteed steal was absolutely broken

[obtuse osprey]

steal cooldown ain do anything bro

[harsh elk]

Yoo @obtuse osprey wtf?

[obtuse osprey]

its chinese blood censorship

[harsh elk]

Are we sure?

[obtuse osprey]

search it up bro i swear admins pls

[harsh elk]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[obtuse osprey]

bro im playing ranked rn

[hoary spindle]

chrollo....

[obtuse osprey]

vamp has a infinite ability glitch

[hoary spindle]

u r 9 year old mentally...

[harsh elk]

What are you talking about

[hoary spindle]

anything but emergency nerf....

[obtuse osprey]

or ts guys hacking

[harsh elk]

How many score points does he have?

[hoary spindle]

u talkin about his inf roadroller?

[harsh elk]

Emergency nerf? He should remove it and rework it

[static hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-facts-don't-lie-andrea-freemann-yaya-dacosta-the-lincoln-lawyer-the-evidence-is-clear-gif-10020520552187514140

[hoary spindle]

0 cooldown

[obtuse osprey]

nah hes js spamming without any cooldowns

[hoary spindle]

maybe remove half of limiteds?? psychic and venom didnt get a nerf nor will this style

[static hollow]

They did get nerfed

[harsh elk]

Psychic let's be real is not that broken

[static hollow]

Well venom did

[harsh elk]

The awk kinda is but is the awk

[hoary spindle]

venom is still op

guaranteed steal

[static hollow]

No

[quartz lava]

Psychic shot got nerf

[static hollow]

Are you slow ?

[harsh elk]

Not true

[hoary spindle]

psychic shot is still pray based

[hoary spindle]

try passing

[static hollow]

Is this guy playing pre-nerf ?

[quartz lava]

slightly easier to block

[hoary spindle]

try passing

[hoary spindle]

are u delulu maybe?

[static hollow]

Steal it back

[hoary spindle]

they got nerfs yet not

[harsh elk]

Yes but before even if you had the ball and u dribbled it was a guaranteed steal

[hoary spindle]

bro thinks its spider

[quartz lava]

You get i frames so its not like rubber

[static hollow]

I stole it back

...

Unless I had some god steals

It works

[hoary spindle]

we know u didnt

[quartz lava]

Like a quarter second of i frames but its enough

[hoary spindle]

its impossible

i frames my hb

[harsh elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rage-bait-rage-ragebait-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-gif-6165949868010589137

[quartz lava]

Oh it was?

[static hollow]

Oooh this is a good gif

[quartz lava]

Didn't work lol

[quartz lava]

Fr I'm taking that

[hoary spindle]

i cant wait for another nerf on this style

still will be 2 guranteed steals

[harsh elk]

Which style , vampire? Probably tomorrow it will be nerfed , at least I wish

[static hollow]

Freeze is crazy

[hoary spindle]

vampire

[static hollow]

But idk how it can get a nerf

[harsh elk]

By a rework

[hoary spindle]

not tomorrrow if they didnt care about psychic

psychic was op

[static hollow]

Aaaah but this move is unique

Kinda

[hoary spindle]

same wwith venom

[static hollow]

Leave venom alone

Holy hell

[harsh elk]

Didn't had guaranteed steal , or dash that it's literally a dash check point

[static hollow]

His tp is annoying

[harsh elk]

Or then , they could do the animation slightly faster but u can steal the ball in that animation

[harsh elk]

In 3v3s yes but in 2v2 kinda easy to block with good positioning and styles

[static hollow]

Freeze has iframes ?

[obtuse osprey]

ref 💔
https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/l8SOOAmvMsdZ8rid0?invite=cr-MSxxWEUsNDE0NjMzMDU3

[hoary spindle]

every steal move has iframes

[fast zinc]

@versed lily

[hoary spindle]

on him

[harsh elk]

Idk what are even iframes dude

[hoary spindle]

a basic thing

yk spider steal?

[harsh elk]

Yes

[hoary spindle]

you know that you can steal his steal?

[obtuse osprey]

is there even a report button in ts game

[versed lily]

the first guy doesnt even have that blue outline

something isnt right

[rustic osprey]

The most basic way to explain iFrames is when someone has iFrames no one can interact with them they are immune to everything

[hoary spindle]

@harsh elk

[harsh elk]

I'm back

[quartz lava]

Invincibility frames, essentially a window where nobody can steal the ball from you

Done correctly it can make the flow of the game better

Done incorrectly and you get BBZ

[harsh elk]

Oh yeah like the rubberman steal

[hoary spindle]

they explained

nvm

[spice verge]

the acutal iframe its like giant one

the post

not rubberman steal

[rustic osprey]

can be countered by jackpot steal and gold pressure

[spice verge]

but somehow jp can kill giant post

but others no

[harsh elk]

Btw iframes or not iframes the game is straight trash

[hoary spindle]

unless its a hook

[quartz lava]

Btw gold pressure can stop eagle dunk lol

[spice verge]

u are right

[quartz lava]

Its actually hilarious

[harsh elk]

Some styles and some zones are straight broken

[rustic osprey]

eagle dunk can be stopped with a normal block sadly

[quartz lava]

They dunking with air

[obtuse osprey]

barely

u have to learn timing for sum like that

[harsh elk]

Like take for example post of giant , a guaranteed dunk , like dude how do u beat that shii

[spice verge]

the game only have 100k player cause of the hype and 5k~9k without updates

[obtuse osprey]

isnt post form dunk blockahble

[spice verge]

pure luck

[obtuse osprey]

ive blocked it once or twice

[rustic osprey]

it isn't only can be intercepted by certain abilities

[rustic osprey]

wait rly

[harsh elk]

Take then 777 , if you hit the jack pot well ladies and gentlemen , 5 dribble can (almost) shoot for half court , have an insane speed , or UNBLOCKABLE DUNKS are annoying too

[rustic osprey]

like with normal block

?

[obtuse osprey]

you stand right behind the hoop and jump

[spice verge]

u spam space and pray that u luckily got the timing

[hoary spindle]

u gotta be at rim to time block eagle and bbg dunk

[obtuse osprey]

it has to be frame perfect

to do a post form block

[harsh elk]

Yes post form , not post dunk tho

[obtuse osprey]

yes post dunk too

its like frame perfect

which means super rare to do

you and the guy basically have to jump at the same time

[rustic osprey]

super balanced (said chrollo probably)

[obtuse osprey]

which is little to never

[hoary spindle]

nerf 777

[hoary spindle]

only zone people use

[obtuse osprey]

nerf 777 range

only thing that makes it op

[hoary spindle]

balanced

global cooldown

[versed lily]

pretty sure these guys didnt touch me but who am i to say that

[hoary spindle]

dude jus stunned me 2 times in 10 seconds...

[hoary spindle]

i see

these guys think like 9 year olds

i hope this game gets a downfall

and Soccer zero fall offs soon too

[obtuse osprey]

isnt soccer zero js blue lock game chrollos apart of all again

and wasnt chrollo also a person who ruined that game

[rustic osprey]

that is correct

[rustic osprey]

It's named soccer zero so probably it won't be just a blue lock game

[harsh elk]

Btw yes venom is broken

[rustic osprey]

not surprised if we get batman there

[harsh elk]

Look at ts pls

[fast zinc]

fr

symbiote is so stupid

[harsh elk]

Btw this game was a Kuroko based game

[obtuse osprey]

doesnt even look realistic vro

his snatch js grabs air

and then the ball tps like did they nerf his range

[harsh elk]

Idk bro

[obtuse osprey]

why does freeze also ragdoll 💔

[formal mango]

This is the first time I've ever gotten a limited without using all my spins 🔥

[icy crest]

dios dribble move is so bad but freeze is so good

[obtuse osprey]

his dribble is fine except for the fact that it freezes nothing abt that style is good

[gleaming roost]

using the dribble variant is wasteful considering the off ball variant is another freeze lol

[obtuse osprey]

why did the game spike to 52k daily players bro

[icy crest]

theres an offball variant?

[gleaming roost]

yea

[obtuse osprey]

both of them freeze

everything he does is freeze

[gleaming roost]

it's a dash

dash that freezes anyone in the dash route

[icy crest]

freeze might be the best move in the game in my opinion

[gleaming roost]

awk is insane as well

[obtuse osprey]

yeah best not balanced

or good

[gleaming roost]

road roller has 25 seconds cooldown

[obtuse osprey]

or enjoyable

[gleaming roost]

so 3 times in awk

[icy crest]

fr why does road roller haven no cd

[gleaming roost]

4 times with ordinary

[icy crest]

and you can timestop twice

[obtuse osprey]

its like eating dry wheat cereal every day without milk

[gleaming roost]

yeah

time stop twice road roller 3-4 times

then u also have freeze

[icy crest]

dios ult is a better tatlis ult

tbh

[gleaming roost]

meh

i'd say pretty much the same level

[icy crest]

dio has 2 auto score moves and tatlis has 1

[gleaming roost]

tatlis C has AoE while dio

is like

single target

[icy crest]

and dont forget he keeps freeze in ult

so you cant take the ball from him

[gleaming roost]

tbf i prefer using tatlis' B for stealing rather than for auto score

attacking is easier than defending for me

[icy crest]

i mean if you use it you can score regardless when you use it

[gleaming roost]

scoring while it's ur opponent's possession is much better than urs

so i prefer steal

any guaranteed steal is broken considering how many things u can do while on offense

compared to just jumping to block for defending

[balmy token]

The style while being op is also lower quality than other limited imo. Like they reused giant’s ult music with a very boring and plain ult cutscene. It’s like they didn’t try

[gleaming roost]

yea vamp is nothing new

the dribble is a bit creative ig

everything else is just taken from other styles

[boreal halo]

wa 6iu78k

[agile folio]

dude no. the fact the ice move not only stuns you but then RAGDOLLS U when ur unfrozen is absolutely ridiculous.

[gleaming roost]

what i was saying is that vampire is one of the most uncreative styles ever

[limpid patio]

They keep adding auto steals and this is the worst one and his teleport move is such a free goal when u got only 1 or 2 people on you. This game got do horrible

[rustic osprey]

auto steal is the worst thing in this game and yet they keep making more

[agile folio]

oh yeah well they havent exactly been creative in a minute. i mean if it isnt styles based off of pre existing media then its the most broken thing you have ever seen in existence

[rustic osprey]

and no bug fixes its crazy

[limpid patio]

They add it, they nerf it, add it again and wait for people complaining and nerf it again wth is this

They dont learn

[agile folio]

i dont even think auto steal as a concept is that bad its just like, not EVERY character can have one. and especially not more than one😭

[prisma void]

I would've said that no balamce changes is crazier but like we all know we never getting a balance patch

[agile folio]

"they nerf it" when

[limpid patio]

They nerfed tatlis afzer backlash
They nerfed venom after backlash

They nerfed gold too

[prisma void]

After 2 weeks my guy

[prisma void]

Lock is still not nerfed

[agile folio]

but no yeah i genuinely think that even id do a better job at running this game and ion even know coding. like

[prisma void]

Emeperor took 2 months

[agile folio]

bruh they do NOT need to nerf lock

[limpid patio]

Real

[agile folio]

u are so unserious

[prisma void]

[limpid patio]

Lock is annoying but we got bigger problems than this

[prisma void]

Try to play in a lobby with 3 locks

[prisma void]

True but it definitely needs a few nerfs

[agile folio]

unless a brand new rework came out that i dont now abt, lock is actually a pretty okay style

[limpid patio]

U can say that with every character

[prisma void]

I can play against 3 stars

[agile folio]

thats just bad luck, not a problem with the style.

[agile folio]

thats cuz star sucks

[limpid patio]

Every style like lock. Auto steal

[agile folio]

and needs a buff imo

[prisma void]

It really isnt. Lock makes the game unplayable in all honesty, the cooldown os insane

[prisma void]

And thats where the issue is auto steals

[jade iris]

Nerf vampire

[prisma void]

Which shouldn't be a thing

[limpid patio]

Im afraid soccer zero will end like this too

[prisma void]

No need to be afraid when you know its gonna happen

[primal fiber]

auto steal shouldn’t exist in this game because there is no gap between its skill floor and skill ceiling

[agile folio]

bro if ur issue is with LOCK? i fear what u play like in lobbies with somebody who uses their better styles defensively.

[hollow crane]

this game sucks lmfao

[limpid patio]

Real

[hollow crane]

yea lets make a new style that basically freezes u and gives u a ball and u can timestop twice man so fun right guys?

[agile folio]

i just wish the rank seasons were longer cuz i need that gd second slot but i am NOT queuing alone

[hollow crane]

like rank is damn near unplayable because of ts

[primal fiber]

i think the base game and the more common styles are a lot of fun but for the last 4 months every update has just been pure slop

[fast zinc]

venom steal is still op

[hollow crane]

literally bro, ive been having fun with giant more then anything

[prisma void]

Lock isnt the MAIN issue but its definitely part of it like i listed alot of examples

[hollow crane]

like vampire is so gay its not even funny

[prisma void]

Yall take evreything out of context fr

[agile folio]

oh its been unplayable. since the copycat nerf i havent even touched rank. imagine my dismay entering rank just to see a bunch of psychics and rubbermans. i was so mad

[primal fiber]

idek why they introduced a competitive gamemode into a very competitively unbalanced game

[fast zinc]

can literally grab the ball when its already 3/4th of the way to your teammate when u pass

[hollow crane]

guys go into ranked 2v2 istg yr gonna run into 2 vampires

[hollow crane]

smh

[hollow crane]

stg

[jade iris]

Nerf vampire

[primal fiber]

vampire is even worse because of the zone that lowers his cooldowns

[fast zinc]

rubberman is genuinely so annoying

[rustic osprey]

apparently next week is a balance change update

[primal fiber]

so now he has the time skip and freezes every like 30 seconds it’s abhorrent

[primal fiber]

i actually don’t have a problem with luffy

[agile folio]

considering how ridiculous the issues get, i think lock is fine considering this is in fact a game where people have stupid powers. a TINY bit of broken ness is warrented and keeps the fun, it should just never be more than a tiny bit

[prisma void]

???????? PROPOGANDA

[fast zinc]

chrollo keeps adding giant snatch variants, perfection was a slight exception

[hollow crane]

coming from someone who owns vampire they did a horrible job, you cant just make a op style then proceed to work on balancing the game after, it makes no sense at all

[limpid patio]

They are probably gonna add like 20 sec global cooldown that's it😂

[agile folio]

the problem with copycat is he cant even copy him!!!!!!!!

[rustic osprey]

No Chrollo said so in his QNA

[agile folio]

i fear what his definition of "balancing" means

[primal fiber]

chrollo’s working on it? it’s gonna be terrible

[prisma void]

Lock isnt fun tho. Again not to take away from other issues but lock isnt fun as it negates passing with 0 counterplay. Just removes a part of your ability with 0 drawbacks, it feels cheap because it is cheap

[fast zinc]

making quick 1 stud faster ☠️

[agile folio]

do any of yall wanna play tho i jus got rubberman and idk how im sposed to use it

[primal fiber]

everything this man touches turns out awful

[prisma void]

PROPOGANDA, LIES YOUR DECEPTION WON'T WORK ON ME!

[agile folio]

its a legendary bro ur coping

[prisma void]

Aight bruv

[primal fiber]

how is he coping? his entire statement was correct

[hollow crane]

promise you if you use vampire and think you good i hate you

[prisma void]

I KNOW🗣️ 💯 🔥

[hollow crane]

i really hate vampire bro ts bogus

[agile folio]

idk i feel like lock is fine as a character. considering he has NO offensive moves hes fine in the roster

[fast zinc]

fr

[prisma void]

Whoever wrote this is pretty smart wouldn't you agree?

[limpid patio]

I was happy when they announced him bc i created a dio skin a while ago but its not even fun to play🧱

[hollow crane]

my and my bro did 2v2 ranked we used giant and bball god against 2 vampires back 2 back and lost because they got carried bro ts annoying

[primal fiber]

i like lock in theory, but being able to intercept passes without any kind of real skill involved and your opponents not even being able to do anything about it is wack

even more so that the enemy team gets possession off of it

[hollow crane]

why is emperor still bugged btw

[primal fiber]

they aren’t gonna fix it and then say they buffed emperor

[agile folio]

we literally dealing w stuff like vampire idk i just do NOT care abt lock or any issues it might have. like there are tons of ways to get around a lock player and ive played lock and i enjoyed it, but i also just like defense so

[prisma void]

Wdym roster bro? His defense has 0 skill expression, lock has 0 engagement, 0 counterplay since you will need to pass at some point, its boring for both sides

Lock sucks

[hollow crane]

dumb

[agile folio]

do u also not like fetch? cuz he has a very similar ability

[limpid patio]

I think solving every issue is to make the ability more specific like vampire can only use is time stop ability after he ankle broke someone and his auto steal only usable after getting ankle broken

[agile folio]

welcome to the entire bbz roster my guy this is chrollo's influence

[primal fiber]

i love fetch, and you don’t seem to know how he works unless you’re talking about his awk move, which is self explanatory why it’s fine in the game

[fast zinc]

1 more 🔥 for 600

there it is

[prisma void]

Star isn't like this

[primal fiber]

yeah honestly i just hate any style that can get absolutely massive value with very little effort or input from the player

[prisma void]

Star has actual engagement, same for fetch

[primal fiber]

e.g gold is one of the most effortless, skilless characters i’ve ever touched

[fast zinc]

dribble stuns r crazy

[prisma void]

EXACTLY

[limpid patio]

They are so uncreative is actually insane
They just spin a wheel on who to add and then add 1 movement ability and a steal and in awakening auto goal

[agile folio]

i also love fetch but again its just another button with not really any "skill expression" like its all about timing, both of them are about timing, and thats really it. and with lock because he has no mobility moves he has to rely on his team to help unless its like a super good player. so they have to engage with their team to TURN that move into value. otherwise its just a wasted move

[prisma void]

Gng both need to be nerfed no one is saying that vampire is fine but like lock needs changes

[limpid patio]

A good way to solve the auto steal issue from vampire is when the ball is lose and u are running at it woth someone u can grab them and stun them

[prisma void]

A big part of the equation is also the cooldown. Fetch has longer cooldowns then lock which uselly makes you think more about how you use it

[agile folio]

i just think its kind of ridiculous imo cuz like, to me the legendaries are not any better than the epics and like, they should be? for something thats 90% of a lucky roll they are not that good and u wanna even nerf em, thas just crazy

[limpid patio]

Or make it have startup

[primal fiber]

no? intercept literally gives you the ball entirely for free, there isn’t any timing involved you just wait until they’re out of dribbles and then spam it and then you’ve got the ball when they pass. Turning possession is huge in this game, and also a character needing teammates to get a lot of value is fine, more styles should be like that

[agile folio]

oh yall thinkin? i am not thinkin at all when im fetch and i still get gigantic value from him. id genuinely rather play fethc over most mythics cuz of how much value i get

[primal fiber]

also fetch’s move can only be used once per game, locks can be used off cooldown

the value difference is incomparable

[prisma void]

Wdym they not good? Bro lock needs a rework or a change not because he is strong or weak but because he is simply unhealthy for the game. Same for nearly all if not most mythical, limited and miracle styles

[dusty girder]

dang, u fr?

[primal fiber]

you can really tell where their creativity ends when half of the busted styles and zones just do the same things as more common styles but better

[dusty girder]

explain how

please

[primal fiber]

this

[agile folio]

ok well if ur using intercept like that ur lame and bad perchance just a slight balance update where if the teammates are closer together than you are, they can negate the intercept

[dusty girder]

yes that

[limpid patio]

Explain what

[primal fiber]

how else are you meant to use intercept, that’s how it’s DESIGNED to be used

[dusty girder]

how it lock unhealthy for the game?

[primal fiber]

that’s where the problem is

[limpid patio]

Free ball

[agile folio]

star needs a buff i mean it i will die on this hill rework that man for the BETTER

[primal fiber]

the fact you can just use it as a guaranteed possession turnover

[limpid patio]

U can just spam the ability until someone passes

[agile folio]

okay well i do not know what u want from mebro i am not a game developer, i just dont be expiriencing a lot of issues with lock

[prisma void]

Terrible take. Star is perfectly fine but just powercrept by an unhealthy meta. Nerf evreything above legendary not named giant and copycat, nerf lock and bam the game is fine

[primal fiber]

i gotta say as a star main i feel like he’s fine, kit is easy to get value from on def and offense without being too strong and he has a better awk than ace

[agile folio]

booo no. they already nerfed copycat do NOT nerf him again

[limpid patio]

If its a full lobby and one team has one vampire or any auto steal u automatically lose the game. Not everytime but still

[primal fiber]

again, that’s your experience, but idk how you can play against lock and see the intercept and be like “nah mate locks completely fine this is healthy for the game

[agile folio]

the copycat nerf was straight up unneccessary and i mean it

[prisma void]

0 engagement or counterplay, removes a core aspect of the game with amazing reward and. Every short cooldown

[dusty girder]

Lock is not a guaranteed possession turnover. If you know to play against Lock, lock is not a problem. It requires the team to use a brain, like hello?

[prisma void]

That's why it's unhealthy

[agile folio]

bring him BACK it was RIDICULOUS WHAT THEY DID TO HIM

[limpid patio]

Nice ragebait

[prisma void]

Fine remove copycat, happy?

[dusty girder]

rage bait?

LOL wow

[primal fiber]

i feel like the only mythic i actually hate is jackpot just cause jackpot steal is way too free

[prisma void]

What type of ragebait am I looking at?

[dusty girder]

Yall just bad

[limpid patio]

Spamming the ability until someone passes and they need to pass bc u dont have infinite dribbles.
It is a automatically possession turnover

[agile folio]

rage bait used to be good

[prisma void]

When evreything is somewhat balanced people will realise how insane ace is

[primal fiber]

that is literally the point of intercept, that’s what it does

[pallid trail]

you can just use hand offs???

[prisma void]

Wdym bro

[limpid patio]

Chrollo number one glazer

[agile folio]

possession turnover is kind of what basketball is about i am so sorry to tell u this..

[prisma void]

NOW, what about this statement is wrong?

[agile folio]

why would i want copycat removed bruh.

[limpid patio]

Captain obvious. But with no effort no requirement

[dusty girder]

Your just bad, honestly

[prisma void]

Aight

[primal fiber]

ace is crazy good if you only use instinct dash and not athletic dribble but for me i kinda see it as the cap on how strong a style should be

[dusty girder]

U fail to adjust to a style with clear counterplay

[pallid trail]

also abilities cant intercept guaranteed passes anymore lock is useless

[dusty girder]

literally

[limpid patio]

Just stop talking atp. U provide nothing to this conversation, no argument just "you're bad"

[agile folio]

yeah like phantom has bullet pass ion think he can swipe from that unless im wrong??

[fast zinc]

if you except the entire team to stay inside each other just to pass you wont be able to shoot that would be a free block farm and if you except every lobby to have jackpot to counter locks intercept ur mistaken and yes you could possibly steal it with giant or star when the intercept animation is over but it just phases through 95% of the time

[prisma void]

Idk i think it needs to be slightly weaker on the dash also i might be wrong but is athletic dribble still a dash from narnia to timbuktu?

[agile folio]

u are just repeating the same thing over and over again tbf like ion know man

[prisma void]

Aight

[limpid patio]

This game is horrible and it will stay horrible until the Abilitys get nerfed, remove auto steal or update the condition

[primal fiber]

this aspect should be reversed imo, i just wish it wasn’t the case on regular passes because i feel punished for literally just playing the game with my team

[dusty girder]

Yall play 3v3?

[fast zinc]

ignore em tbf

[pallid trail]

its not a free block farm have you played high 3v3s

[agile folio]

nerfing isnt the only way to balance and i hate when people think it is

[prisma void]

@agile folio what about this statement is wrong now that I added copycat?

[limpid patio]

I gave 3 ways wdym

[primal fiber]

unless you predict the ace dribble and play back or the ace player is stupid, you aren’t blocking it

[fast zinc]

bbz isnt only ranked/3v3

[prisma void]

Oh lol

[agile folio]

oh i thought u meant remove from the game still tho he needs his already existing nerf to be retconned because he was perfectly balanced. theres no reason he shouldnt be able to copy certain styles

[dusty girder]

So lemme ask you this

[pallid trail]

the game doesnt really work in other modes without restricting something base game is played 3v3 and up

[prisma void]

I actually agree with that last statement

Copycat should be able to copy all styles

[limpid patio]

Yeah he is useless when there's a full lobby of uncopyable styles

[primal fiber]

if this change got implemented copycat would be top 3

[agile folio]

removing auto steal is technically a nerf and i think some characters should be allowed to have it, like characters have auto block. and updating conditions is a valid thing i didnt see that mb

[prisma void]

If you nerf evrey style in the game, I really dont think so

[agile folio]

its so annoying too like for what. like RUBBERMAN? hes not even limited

[dusty girder]

Take that into consideration, some styles are CLEARLY easier dealt with in 3v3 rather than 2v2 or whatever. Why absolutely neuter the style for one segment of the game for another pleasure?

[limpid patio]

Dw. They can add other Abilitys that are taking place for the auto steal

[primal fiber]

depends on the nerfs, but even just in the principle of having someone on the court who, once a minute, can use any ability there makes him very very strong

adaptable is the word

[dusty girder]

Lock in 3v3 is very easy to work around, the fact its "unhealthy" idk

[prisma void]

I can somewhat see it but idk i think making his copy have a higher cd might be N easy fix

[primal fiber]

you can make this argument for literally every facet of every game with different modes

[limpid patio]

Lock will still be able to auto take the ball doesnt matter what u do

[dusty girder]

It cant

[limpid patio]

U need to pass at some point so yeah he does

[pallid trail]

hand offs exist

[prisma void]

Spam the button hard enough and it will

[agile folio]

he literally was able to copy all styles. the thing that kept him balanced was the full 60 second cooldown ALONG with having the conditions of whatever move he copied, the move being random, and having to use the move to even go back on cooldown. it requires a huge knowledge of the game to gain value from it. and it WAS balanced. they didnt even adjust his CD literally just said "nuh uh not for you" and barred certain characters all of a sudden. turned him into reo from blr smdh

[pallid trail]

we dont know what hand offs are???

[waxen arrow]

never allow limiteds in pro servers

lets all agree

[prisma void]

Agreed lwk stupid, just make him have an increased cd of the move he copied and he is fine

[waxen arrow]

just got 4v1d for a minute

[prisma void]

YES

[limpid patio]

Gamemode will die bc of no new contend

[waxen arrow]

2 vamps

1 lock

1 chrollo

someone please

[limpid patio]

But i agree

[primal fiber]

personally i’d say let him copy every move, but not the same style twice in a row

[agile folio]

i know that but im saying auto steal is a fine move as a concept. it just shouldnt be as rampant as it is. i think its fine for some characters to have it. it should just be spread out the same way auto block is.

[limpid patio]

Thats good

[prisma void]

Dear god

[agile folio]

i would not say that purely because everytime this game drops a new style every lobby is just that style

[pallid trail]

JP for lock
switcher for chrollo
and just play smart against vamp

[waxen arrow]

dawg

its a 4v1

[prisma void]

I disagree, it removes engagement.

[primal fiber]

yeah but that’s a temporary thing though not a permanent one

[waxen arrow]

am i magically supposed to clone myself

[pallid trail]

oh wallahi

[prisma void]

PLAY SMART AGAINST VAMP?

[pallid trail]

yeah

[prisma void]

Aight Albert einstine

[agile folio]

he was perfectly balanced before when he could copy anything. literally just bring him back. if they wont then his CD should match whatever move he copied.

[waxen arrow]

vamp jp cant even steal through it

[pallid trail]

why would you knowingly walk into one

[agile folio]

nah u gotta go

[prisma void]

Agreed

[dusty girder]

AWARENESS

[limpid patio]

He's talking some nonsense idk

[pallid trail]

so we walking into vamp players ig

[primal fiber]

also auto steal isn’t a good idea, auto block is fine in some cases just cause it’s about shutting down playmaking ability but there are still alternatives, auto steals actively shut down engagements and make the game less fun for everyone involved

[dusty girder]

I guess we walk into Tatlis too

[pallid trail]

lol

[prisma void]

Nah they walk to me

[dusty girder]

LOLL

[whole frigate]

I didnt read the whole chat but auto steal and auto block both sound incredibly stupid

[pallid trail]

so you let him walk into you

[prisma void]

My the vamp can easily walk into you

[prisma void]

EXACTLY

[agile folio]

it isnt tho. they release new styles way too often. half of copycats gameplay would be unusable because of it. so i think its fine to copy same guy in a row, plus every character has different moves, u arent gonna get the same one. and again he has a FULL MINUTE CD

[primal fiber]

you can get the same one twice in a row

[prisma void]

WDYM LET? you hear yourself? They can zone you out by Literally EXISTING

[limpid patio]

They will still be a threat. U cant move past him because he has this ability. Even when u go around him, him being on the field is allready such a big atvantage

[prisma void]

DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?

[prisma void]

HOW IS THIS BALANCED?

[pallid trail]

no im not dumb the OS is literally if they not close enough to freeze they gonna dash to freeze you jsut dribble left or right

[waxen arrow]

my question is why is there a freeze move in base

i understand awk

but not base

[agile folio]

but it creates new paths for new engagements, auto steal shouldnt be doable from halfway across court i agree but like, ur still playing the game

[pallid trail]

you dont know how to bait it or counter it?

[waxen arrow]

devs need to wake up

[prisma void]

My g they can just stand there and zone you out by existing

[waxen arrow]

start back from the roots

[whole frigate]

theres no hope for this game

[prisma void]

They just slowly walk to you untill your close enough

[pallid trail]

its called bait

[whole frigate]

this has nothing to do with Basketball

[prisma void]

Bait? How do you bait a dude standing?

[limpid patio]

Yeah and these people here are even defending it. Actually insanity

[prisma void]

bro tryne sound so smart

[agile folio]

i know but ur bound to get different ones, its really not a big deal when there is quite literally a full minute cooldown and his only other move is an on the ball mobility move that also has a super long cooldown. i think the skill requirement for copycat should give some allowance for it

[pallid trail]

go the other way??? he has to follow you and when he close you can just dribble back or just use ability

[limpid patio]

Hao and hako doing everything but blaming the devs

[prisma void]

If a vamp stands in an area doing nothing at all, how do you avoid getting frozen?

[dusty girder]

So whats the difference between freeze and color strike? I'm curious

[pallid trail]

by getting close then dribble back its called bait

[primal fiber]

flowstep is incredibly good bro what?

[agile folio]

yeah guys just dont get stolen from lol that simple

guys just win the game?? lol

[limpid patio]

Lmao

[prisma void]

Hahah

[limpid patio]

The fact that they dont get that vampire alone being on the field is so annoying to go against

[pallid trail]

you can bait out those abilities rather easily actually

[primal fiber]

am i correct in saying that vampires freeze works on and off ball the same way? and that he still gets the freeze effect when in shooting position?

[agile folio]

no yeah i agree but again im talking abt the cooldowns here. and the chances of getting another mobility move are very high. its very fair to copy the same guy again.

[limpid patio]

And any other style with auto steal

[whole frigate]

I dont think that u should blame the devs for it, the game's just not a Basketball game, but whatever this is supposed to be

[agile folio]

ok show me, record it and show me u doing that rn

[wintry bear]

Tbf I’m fine with all these anime specs I just wish they added everything from the main anime first

[limpid patio]

Nah i mean the unbalanced aspect

[pallid trail]

ill hope in a ps with anyone who thinks other wise

[agile folio]

do u think some omnipotent god is like ruining their basketball game and theres nothing they can do about it?

[limpid patio]

Im good
This game is terrible

[agile folio]

i told u screen record it

[pallid trail]

lol so you complaing but dont want to play

both of yall

[dusty girder]

the devs have made plenty of mistake. But i guess the lack of problem solving skills seems to be a issue

[pallid trail]

run it

[limpid patio]

Yeah? Its like u saying after i tried eating food that is terrible i should eat it again

[dusty girder]

yeah keep eating

[limpid patio]

"you're complaining about the food but dont want to eat it anymore"

[primal fiber]

i wanna make a judgement on vampire but i genuinely can’t because i don’t have a good enough understanding of how his abilities work and what the counterplay is

[pallid trail]

that doesn't remotely correlate to this situation

[whole frigate]

No, I think its that the type of the game's just not normal Basketball, what'd u want with balanced styles in a game that aint meant to be balanced

[limpid patio]

It does
Yous aid im complaining about the game but i dont want to play
Well im sorry to say this but i dont want to play because the game is trash

Not that hard to understand

[pallid trail]

you saying you good then still complaining is crazy

why you even here then

[dusty girder]

You dont play the game????

[limpid patio]

Im good? Im good i dont want to play

[pallid trail]

the food bad right so why you still tasting it

[primal fiber]

this is fine to say but they have a whole competitive mode, so they need to retain a certain level of competitive balance

[limpid patio]

Im not? I tasted it and stopped eating it? What are u even saying

[onyx tinsel]

Fr man. Those styles are just so braindead. It's rare to actually see someone not play a limited style. Bbz now has more limited styles gng, and they are so bad.

[ancient gate]

Freeze the first enemy you touch for 2 seconds, off ball and on ball. Dash that freezes anyone in the area you dash through, off ball. Dash that teleports you to another position, on ball.

[pallid trail]

you are talking in the DC about the game you are still partaking in the food

[whole frigate]

I dont know man, ts is a joke

[pallid trail]

can you not see that

[ancient gate]

Also the first freeze is autosteal

[primal fiber]

does the on ball freeze still effect others when the vampire is in shooting position?

[pallid trail]

if you dont "like the food" why you still partaking

[limpid patio]

Bruh where am i supposed to complain?
"why do you complain to the chef when the food is bad"

[ancient gate]

Not sure tbh

[primal fiber]

does the auto steal take the ball from you even from shooting position?

[pallid trail]

you dont play the game/eat the food no more why you complaining

[ancient gate]

Not sure tbh

Ima test that

[primal fiber]

cause both of those are very important

[ancient gate]

But it’s basically

Instanteoys

[limpid patio]

So they change something in the recipe? So i can eat it bc i miss the taste?

Not that hard to think

[ancient gate]

Like you’re getting frozen before you even react unless you’re really good at anticipation

[primal fiber]

if a vampire player can just activate freeze and take a shot how am i meant to block that? if i touch him im frozen and if i don’t block he shoots

[dusty girder]

You miss the taste of something you dont like?

[pallid trail]

you right yall problem sovling skills and critical thinking need work

[limpid patio]

What are u even talking about? I liked the game when it came out.
Stop talking nonsense holy

[waxen arrow]

the game has testers right guys

my question is

wait

i just realized

this is another guaranteed steal move

[primal fiber]

i thought when the description said that you needed to touch them that it meant stealing or any kind of contact ability, but it just seems like being in their general vicinity is enough to trigger it

[ancient gate]

You gotta touch em

Counter play is having your teammate always screening for you

So they get frozen instead

And spam passing

[pallid trail]

no its not

bait them its not hard

[waxen arrow]

no teammate is ever that smart

keep it real

[limpid patio]

True

[ancient gate]

Bait them in a 5v5 when 75% of the defenders all have freeze

[ancient gate]

True LOL

[limpid patio]

They are talking nonsense dw

[primal fiber]

wouldn’t the vampire player just have to anticipate the bait or use the freeze more conservatively?

[ancient gate]

yeah

[pallid trail]

then he lets you walk up the court

[ancient gate]

Haou has a very strange perspective

That is

Well it's his own world that nobody else is living in

Cuz a vampire easily can counter someone who is playing to bait them

[primal fiber]

“just bait bro” isn’t universal advice solely because it relies on the actual player not being very smart/not adapting

[pallid trail]

yall are stuck on layer 1

[ancient gate]

You on your own layer gang

We over here

In reality

[pallid trail]

yall play fgc?

[ancient gate]

the genre

[primal fiber]

all i’m saying is that your advice and strategy isn’t gonna be consistent for every single vampire player

[ancient gate]

or a specific game called fgc?

[pallid trail]

in a controlled environment it is

[pallid trail]

yes the genre

cause if yall do yall do not have fgc brain

[ancient gate]

Only really played smash tbh

[pallid trail]

that tracks

[ancient gate]

Why are you applying fgc logic

to bbz

[pallid trail]

its logic in general with how layers and counter play works

[dusty girder]

because problem solving is a core part of competitive games

[lone jolt]

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT CHROLLO MADE THIS WITH A STRAIGHT FACE

BRO

VAMPIRE IS BUSTED BRO

[dusty girder]

sure is

[lone jolt]

ITS NOT EVNE FUN

[ancient gate]

problem solving is a core part of action/adventures too, dunno how youre gonna apply that to bbz either

[limpid patio]

They keep adding auro steals

[dusty girder]

ITS UNIVERSAL

[lone jolt]

ong i hatge this game

[waxen arrow]

chrollo cant get the ball in a normal game so he has to make a move to get the ball in one click

[lone jolt]

this game is not a balanced bro

ITS JS STYLE CARRIED

[waxen arrow]

yep

[pallid trail]

because problem solving is also different in the genres

[limpid patio]

People here are defending ts😂

[ancient gate]

Wait why am I arguing this, I agree with the concept of problem solving existing in games

I just dont agree with "baiting" being the universal solution to vampire

[primal fiber]

if vampire can use freeze and steal/shoot from shooting position then that’s a big problem, if he can’t then there is some fairly effective counterplay

[pallid trail]

fgc problem solving is way different action adventure problem solving

[limpid patio]

He can

[primal fiber]

oh

[lone jolt]

TELL ME WHY IM GOING A GAINST 3 VAMPIRES IN RANKED

BRO

[limpid patio]

They get ragdolled after 2 second freeze too

[lone jolt]

DELETE THIS STYLE BRO

[ancient gate]

Still dont see how either can apply to the vampire issue

Unless the person with vampire is really

really

slow

[pallid trail]

its solving for the counters to the moves

yall acting like theres no counter play

[ancient gate]

Your solution

[waxen arrow]

what if its a 2v1

[ancient gate]

and i quote

"Just bait them it's not that hard"

[waxen arrow]

how do you counter

in what world

[ancient gate]

Which isn't a real solution tbh

[limpid patio]

Thats a different scenario that shouldn't exist

[waxen arrow]

it does

[pallid trail]

2v1 you are cooked

[limpid patio]

There's no counterplas against 2v1

[waxen arrow]

they have to do a wipe

[limpid patio]

Its just over

[waxen arrow]

or something

limit styles

[limpid patio]

That will kill the game

[ancient gate]

They cant wipe

[waxen arrow]

the game shouldve died

[ancient gate]

Theyll just nerf

[pallid trail]

yeah it is that simple plus it aint a 1v1 all the time you have help

[waxen arrow]

it was on the verge

on copycat

[ancient gate]

Aint that simple when you're playing 3-5 vampires

[waxen arrow]

then braindead styles made there way up

[ancient gate]

Unless theyre all slow ig

[waxen arrow]

and the game boosted to 30k

[lone jolt]

delete.

vampire

pleasee

[waxen arrow]

this game is geniuenly for kids

[limpid patio]

They just need to make the conditions more specific thats it

[waxen arrow]

now

[pallid trail]

ok lets look at some counter styles

any dribble move with a stun

[ancient gate]

Nope

Stole off a gold who was driving

And a emperor

So that doesnt work

[waxen arrow]

someone has to make a knb game