NERF CYBER AND PSYHIC DEBATE

[hardy tulip]

Like cyber is balanced

He has amazing things in his kit but it also has crazy disadvantages

[willow basalt]

The speed is not game braking but its still way to much
And the steal is definitely not balanced

[willow basalt]

The chair should just give moves

[hardy tulip]

The steal is pretty much a faster version of jackpot steal

[willow basalt]

Well i guess its fine the chair

[candid harbor]

well that punishment for falling for the obvious counter

[willow basalt]

With way more range

[hardy tulip]

It’s not like you can’t dribble out of it like Tatlis

[willow basalt]

And I would say thats a fair opinion if anything it should only punish the one that fell for it

[hardy tulip]

When you get the ball with the steal it becomes crazy

But all you really have to do is dribble

Same thing with jackpot steal

[candid harbor]

exept it dosnt go through iframes like giants post or pumpfakes

[willow basalt]

The steal is easy to stop but with its range and no build up it’s unexpected

[candid harbor]

ye nerf the range

[hardy tulip]

And when you miss it you get flown back pretty far

[candid harbor]

the steal range is a tad bit unfair

[hardy tulip]

Like it can be a lil unfair but if it has disadvantages for missing it like getting ankle broken and flown back pretty far it makes sense

Good highs and bad lows

Pretty much a 50/50

That’s what his style is

Basically

[willow basalt]

My main concern is psyhic
Will it have anything done to it its a day and night difference when it comes to balance

[candid harbor]

i dont mind psychics confusion making your controls swap, i do mind however that it dosnt let you pass

the shot should also have a bit of windup

[hardy tulip]

Nerf him.

Nerf that thinker to the GROUND

Like WTF was chrollo thinking about when he made this guy?

[candid harbor]

i think its the combo of confusion > steal > ordinary shot that is so annoying

i think the pass move is ok since there are many others like it and the teleport is decent but should still get a small windup

main gripe is the free steal and free 3

[lusty furnace]

wdym it lets u pass

[candid harbor]

but there is a slight delay

in the beggining of it you cant

[lusty furnace]

oh

[candid harbor]

for like 1 sec you cant pass and if your out of dribbles its over

free steal

[azure kraken]

True for cyber

But what the hell is psychic

[near talon]

It is you just don't wanna admit it

you the realest person here for real man

it's killing the game off and he wanna add limiteds fine but why can't he make balanced limiteds like perfection and uncle sam

I use to have an skill with cyber base move I don't anymore but the awk is the problem and psychic is the worst limited to come out don't even get me started on that

[lusty furnace]

this game caters to the general audience

the general audience is just a bunch of children

children will stay as long as it has an addictive gambling mechanic and flashy broken movesets releasing weekly

[near talon]

so by this logic why are people complaining everyday about styles

[lusty furnace]

because we are not the general audience

it is how it is

[near talon]

we are

we are an audience

if we playing a game how are we not an audience

[lusty furnace]

people like you make up about 5-10% of the playerbase

[chilly ore]

worst limited in terms of overpowered or underpowered

[lusty furnace]

the other 90-95% care only about broken and flashy styles releasing weekly

[near talon]

this is highly incorrect

very highly incorrect

[chilly ore]

the people that actually cared about balance makes up like 20k dailies ccu

[lusty furnace]

then why is the game sitting at 36k players right now

🤔

[chilly ore]

cuz all the flashy kids already tried out the styles

[lusty furnace]

36k is still good enough

it makes enough money

[chilly ore]

yea but WE as in the player that cared about balance makes up a sizable amount of the CCU

[near talon]

you have different people in different regions who actually play the game want to see limited come out but they wanna see the game balanced anything that's not balanced will increase about complaints even if it's a small percentage but it's definitely not 15% you have to go by months and summers and seasons and past and per suggestions by day not only that but basketball zero has 1.4 million people here so time all the suggestions of complaints by people and people in it. So it would be no where near 15%

[lusty furnace]

like maybe 5k

not more

[chilly ore]

no lol

wtf

ur downplaying it so bad

[lusty furnace]

sure

[near talon]

I don't see how he cannot see that

[chilly ore]

15k minimum

[chilly ore]

fr

[lusty furnace]

the average player is a style carried mutt

it is how it is

[chilly ore]

its like he doesnt want the game to have some sort of a balance or sumthin

[lusty furnace]

i do want it

[near talon]

I just want a nerf with cyber awk and I want psychic to get nerfed incredibly hard than it can be okay

[lusty furnace]

but it wont get balancing

[olive vector]

I still enjoy the game but not too much when everyone uses the same freaking style..

[chilly ore]

yea but doesnt excuse them to not nerf styles and stuff

[near talon]

exactly

[lusty furnace]

it is not a priority for the devs

the top priority is to make as much bag as possible

which is making as many limited styles as possible before the game dies

[chilly ore]

yea

dying is a bit much

game wont die

for a long long time

[lusty furnace]

u dont know yet

[chilly ore]

wym

[olive vector]

Gonna be funny if they gonna give psychic some low nerfs compare to perfection

[lusty furnace]

it could die in 3 months

[near talon]

I want psyhic to get a nerf so hard man honestly

[lusty furnace]

could be in 2 years

[chilly ore]

game used to average around 20k ccu at the DRIEST period

[near talon]

im so sick of this

[chilly ore]

i think the game is doing just fine

[lusty furnace]

in the end this is just a prem payout farm like every other chrollo game

[near talon]

they need to nerf him BIG TIME

[olive vector]

Is this the strat chrollo made?

Bro must be a genius

[lusty furnace]

yes

he is the mastermind

light yagami got nothing on this dude

[olive vector]

Thats crazy

[near talon]

all kids do is spam psyhic and than certain kids say it's predictable no it isn't first off the shot move you can't even predict let's get out the way you have to pre jump and predict and time that's how hard it is with cyber shot move it's just block and psychic has an annoying stun move pushes you back and you have multiple of the same styles spamming with other styles assisting them down field*

AND DONT

GET ME STARTED

ON THE AWK

worst awk ever

BIG TIME

[olive vector]

What all psychic users ACTUALLY do is using the confusion button when you're about to score

like 99% of the time it happens

[near talon]

and the shot move

it's hard to block with snatch block because how high the ball curves in the air and the amount of predicting you have to do

Idc what nobody says

[chilly ore]

honestly all psychic needs is more start up on his ordinary shot

[near talon]

If they cannot see this they are genuinely slow

[near talon]

fr

annoying man

[chilly ore]

cuz its literally just a 100% green and a faster + harder to block perfect arc

[near talon]

and I don't know why people are clowning my suggestion I know why but it's unnecessary

[chilly ore]

its insane

[olive vector]

ordinary shot is basically chrollo's shot but like 2x more braindead

[near talon]

My suggestion is not that bad

it's just kids wanna keep allowing idiotic things to come out to ruin bbz

[chilly ore]

ye its not

its fair

its these braindead kids

[olive vector]

Limited fun gang

Did we forgot about this word?

[chilly ore]

pray for next week

nerf

and lock nerf

i hate that style

[olive vector]

What did lock do to you?

[chilly ore]

intercept

thats all

that move is genuinely the most braindead move

[near talon]

about time I meet someone with nice logic and a good mindset

[chilly ore]

in existence

[near talon]

You guys have no idea how bad I got jumped on just for having an actually valid opinion

[olive vector]

Wait

[hollow vault]

i dont think you need to be any smart anyway

[olive vector]

can this move intercept psychic pass?

[hollow vault]

to realize that cyber and psychic

both braindead styles

[chilly ore]

nah the pass is techincally a teleport

so u cant

[somber wolf]

sure but pyshic is a bit more brain dead

[near talon]

Not psyhic also btw 0/10 ragebait attempt

[olive vector]

Another reason why gold fell off same with phantom

[near talon]

Psyhic is annoying

Ur ragebaiting

ur ragebaiting

[somber wolf]

cyber awk is crazy ik that

base is not that good bro

[chilly ore]

lock is the style that makes the game genuinely unfun for both sides

like ive never seen a style

that makes BOTH sides

unfun to play as and against

[somber wolf]

cyber is pretty balanced

[chilly ore]

cyber ult is busted

[somber wolf]

i agree

[chilly ore]

maybe nerf the sandevistan thingy to only 1 time

and it would be somewhat fine

[olive vector]

I mean all lock has is his intercept move that's pretty much it but the cooldown is absurdly low for an op move

[somber wolf]

yeah

[olive vector]

50 second for an intercept compare to a dunk on bbg

Very weird ngl

[chilly ore]

funnily enough all lock needed was a hands up buff and NOT an iframe to an AUTO STEAL PASS move

old lock u still need good positioning

which is fun to play around as and against

now its just this

[olive vector]

..

[lusty furnace]

what do you mean bro the lock was clearly the better and more skilled player

[chilly ore]

frfr

[olive vector]

Who is lock inspired from??

[lusty furnace]

original style

[near talon]

Why would they ever buff lock

[lusty furnace]

i believe

[chilly ore]

they buffed intercept

[near talon]

I bet you some idiot kids asked for a buff lock suggestion

[chilly ore]

adding iframe to it

[near talon]

not that too

[chilly ore]

which is

insane

[near talon]

hands up

it's all dumb

[chilly ore]

hands up is all they needed to buff ngl

but intercept

is awful

now

[near talon]

yeah but they buff intercept

that's my problem

[chilly ore]

unfun to play as and against

[olive vector]

I mean you could've barely find anyone using lock before it got buffed

[near talon]

they just need to replace intercept it doesn't even need a nerf it needs a re work

[chilly ore]

i dont expect much from all of these locker mains

their brain prob fell off while using the style

[near talon]

#1404047437525680128 literally had to make this days ago

[hollow vault]

because losers crying about some style being weak then it gets overtuned and broken

[olive vector]

Who let you cook even more?

[somber wolf]

lock users probably get bullied in school

[hollow vault]

same can happen with perfection

perfection already decent enough

if they buff it

ppl will cry about how busted it is

[near talon]

Lock should have never got a buff even if kids where complaining because the style was already idiotic to begin with

[chilly ore]

we should just call lock mains

locker

at this point

make it a slur

[olive vector]

Perf is really bad style rn compare to others like you genuinely can't be saying that perf doesn't deserve a buff when there are styles that powercrept it

[somber wolf]

agreed

[near talon]

for example take a look at sniper how balanced it is

and it's a legendary

[hollow vault]

ur logic is to buff a balanced style because other styles are broken?

W balance idea bro

[olive vector]

Perf hasn't got any buffs since it got nerfed

[hollow vault]

lets just make clutch pressure defense be an old gold's pressure defense

[chilly ore]

i have a theory on why perf not getting any buff ngl

[olive vector]

like this is straight sad

[chilly ore]

its because they are scared of touching the style ever again due to copyright issues

[hollow vault]

perfection is alright

idk how is it bad

sure perfect dribble

[near talon]

I don't want them to buff perfection I always hated blink when it first came out the other moves are fine to buff cause they too predictable so it wont matter

[hollow vault]

into perfect step

if you spam that

you are a bad player

[chilly ore]

perfection is kinda insane on defense

[near talon]

when blink got nerfed it felt like heaven

[chilly ore]

they are sleeping on the defensive

capabilities

[hollow vault]

^

blink has 50 sec

cooldown

and it easily blocks the shot

[near talon]

Blink is perfect all you need to do is just be up close

[hollow vault]

people forget that even normal block doesnt guarantee you a ball

blink is a good defensive move for 50 second cooldown its really good

[olive vector]

Blink is pretty much useful against shots like lazy workers and maybe some other styles but for basic shots it's pretty much a waste

[hollow vault]

?

you prevent

them from potential

3 pointer

wdym its a waste

[chilly ore]

honestly it works in all scenarious cause you remove 3 pt from ur opponent

[hollow vault]

emp reach is worse than blink

less consistent

65 sec cooldown compared to 50 sec cooldown

and less range

and emp reach you have to time

blink you just wait when someone shots

then oyu press it

[near talon]

Emperor reach is horrible I don't know how I just find it very annoying and it has a second move curve the ball so high use to be annoying until I found out at a late time how to predict it

emperor ain't even a good style it's horrible

My thing is lock

[chilly ore]

ehhhh

[near talon]

Im so disappointed

[chilly ore]

its not horrible persay

it still has its place

but not meta

all meta are new styles

which just shows how braindead these styles are getting

[near talon]

it's not horrible but not good anymore I never even liked the style I don't have problems with it tbh

[chilly ore]

ye

[near talon]

I've been using switcher and having fun

but they did giant so wrong

2 nerfs?

like wow

[chilly ore]

what nerfs

[near talon]

they nerfed snatch block in the beginning turned around and nerfed techs with him

and post form is useless now you have kids abusing jp steal

[chilly ore]

if the devs are not a bunch of lazy people they would ACTUALLY nerf shamgod + jump instead of nerfing the whole jump ability thingie

im still pissed cause fetch dive tech is virtually

impossible now

prob works like 10% of the time now

[hollow vault]

i used to main clutch and fetch

i had enjoyment

not anymore

[chilly ore]

fetch is genuinely so fun and they had to nerf the jump thing

good job game

[near talon]

fetch is just annoying with loose balls but I never had a problem with it

[chilly ore]

good job chrollo

[near talon]

lock and giant are my problems

Giant needs a re work now

or just buff his snatch again

[chilly ore]

the balance team needs a rework

they prob dont even have one

[hollow vault]

nah snatch meta is annoying

its been meta

for a long time

[near talon]

snatch is easy to counter bro

[hollow vault]

glad its over

[hollow vault]

you mean snatch is easy to use

stand in the center

react snatch any shots

gg

pure skill guys

[near talon]

you can use zone to shoot far or just use an on ball moveset to get around them or just dunk the ball

[hollow vault]

i used giant i never liked the style

but snatch is ez to use

big hitbox

not just big hitbox

but also lingering hitbox

[near talon]

you have tatlis
lock
chrollo
Jackpot steal
trap but people complain about this

[chilly ore]

honestly i prefer snatch block over star goal tending

star goaltending is always 100% 3pt save

[near talon]

tatlis has a whole guaranteed steal
lock intercept and hands up
jackpot steal spammers
And kids who spam trap

[chilly ore]

no counter at all

[hollow vault]

its the same? i mean ball is in the air you can react to it same as goal tending

[near talon]

also you have star too

sky leap longer range

who can goaltend as well

😐

[chilly ore]

the difference is that star you can quite literally stand under the hoop and jump + sky leap to grab any ball

[hollow vault]

yes i hate all defensive styles

[chilly ore]

snatch block u still need to follow where the ball is

u cant just stay under the hoop

like star

[hollow vault]

only balanced one is emp reach but its inconsistent since it doesnt work

emp reach actually takes you to predict

not to just click it

[olive vector]

Does ace fit into the category?

[chilly ore]

nah

[olive vector]

With instinct dash

[hollow vault]

instinct dash requires prediction too

you need to know should u use it rn or not

and if you miss gg 65 sec cooldown

[near talon]

Ngl I just shoot deep with zone from a different angle or just dunk the ball I'll just work my way around it

[hollow vault]

snatch you just see the ball

[chilly ore]

against star or giant?

[hollow vault]

you click

[near talon]

both

[chilly ore]

trust me you'll be glad giant is the meta instead of star

star goaltending is quite literally unbeatable

[chilly ore]

star doesnt work since they can quite literally stand still under the hoop and just use jump + skyleap to grab any ball

they dont need to be close to u

all they need to do is just stay under the hoop

but giant could work

[spare niche]

smartest clanker lover

[near talon]

I'll just try to find a way to score any way I can by using an on ball move around them

Plus it's harder a bit to goaltend with star

Cause of it's longer windup

snatch windup is just faster

[hexed hemlock]

i can't lie

[chilly ore]

i mean technically yea but the air travel time still makes it possible to react

not 100% predict

[hexed hemlock]

needing to have a specific expanse within tech to counter 1 move

is insane

[near talon]

not if you shoot from a different angle to get around it or pump them into baiting using it

[chilly ore]

no like it will ALL get saved

if a star is goaltending

its not like giant

giant still needs you to follow the ball somewhat

[near talon]

I could see where your coming from ive never had a problem with a star goaltending just a giant

[hexed hemlock]

isn't star's leap dependent on the ball

[chilly ore]

ill see if i can find the clip

and you'll see what i mean

[hexed hemlock]

pretty sure it wont go that high if the ball is nowhere near it

[near talon]

my main zone is real basketball I often don't have a problem with goaltenders

Real basketball is the best zone to ever release

nothing will ever beat it

unblockable dunks increased speed with shooting range?

thats actually broken

ggs

[chilly ore]

@hexed hemlock @near talon

this is what i meant

you cannot do this with giant

[hexed hemlock]

game wasn't really well balanced

and its never going to be

there's always going to be worse styles that make the other overpowered ones feel less op

[chilly ore]

i was answering ur question bro about star leap

like yea i know the game is not balanced

[olive vector]

Can this intercept all shots I mean even the psychic

[late wraith]

Cant use moves in air anymore

[chilly ore]

but there are LEVELS to this

[chilly ore]

not possible cuz of the nerf rn

just be glad giant was the meta before

not star

[chilly ore]

wished the devs werent being a lazy piece of and actually nerf styles that need the jump + ability nerf instead of nerfing the whole jump ability

[late wraith]

Why does psychics shot

curve in the air

and why does it move so slowly

[chilly ore]

who even know what chrollo thinks at this point

he greenlit a half court 3 pt

[late wraith]

fr

[chilly ore]

thats barely blockable

and its just a 100% green and faster perfect arc

[late wraith]

it aint hard to make a list of what things need balancing, and do the list

[chilly ore]

they prob dont even have balance team whatsoever

cuz chrollo used all of the money for himself

[olive vector]

I bet devs get 10% of the money chrollo gets

[chilly ore]

fr

and they need to glaze chrollo to get another 5%

like my god

[near talon]

I just try to find ways around the spam

[ancient bay]

i think someone just lost to cyber and psyhic too much but tbf ur opinion is ur opinion not much i can change abt it but js know its pretty easy to counter if u have enough experience with them

[cerulean frost]

Bump

[vague whale]

js nerf psyhics shot and tp

[ancient bay]

phyhic shot is already blockable

the tp pass is the same as gold's pass so not much to chaneg

change*

[blissful nova]

Is it blockable, technically yes. You're not gonna block it most of the time.
The teleport pass is a non-issue. I'd rather see the awakening get nerfed instead.

[chilly ore]

"already"

yea if you can predict the future

not to mention the timing is so strict for what is essentially a free half court shot

[vague whale]

psyhic shot is blockable is hard and not the tp pass i just mean his bass tp

[vague whale]

ive seen people block it many times before\

still op tho

[near talon]

Exactly

your not gonna block it most of the time

is what kids are so stuck up on

[raw crow]

So you want no more limiteds correct?

Or just not as often

[near talon]

nah im just tried of the movesets and if he has to make limiteds which is already idiotic but if he wants too why can't he make limiteds that are balanced like uncle Sam and real basketball

[raw crow]

Cybers pretty balanced psychic not so much

[near talon]

Ik

[raw crow]

But like spider vs symbiote do you think that’s gonna be balanced really?

[near talon]

I am so sick of psyhic bro

[viral siren]

balance in a current game

outrageous

[ancient bay]

thats the point you have to predict when its gonna happen its called psyhic cuz u gotta predict it

same thing as perfection u gotta predict it

[viral siren]

why are we just typing anything now vro 😭

[ancient bay]

idk

[icy whale]

perfection is 10x easier to block than ordinary shot bro trust me

IDK why but I feel like the hitbox to block it just randomly got bigger

[viral siren]

sometimes you can block it by just

jumping in place

for whatever reason

[hasty willow]

Perfection is so easy to block

[ancient bay]

alr?

[zealous kestrel]

whoever said Mob is balanced is the problem. Cyber is no where near op

and his awk requires teammates

so honestly its a team based style

thats how a style is balanced like Gold imo

[near talon]

cyber awk is overpowered

no it is Not

if you can't see how bad cyber awk is your just braindead

The base ain't bad

I was over reacting I'll admit

but the awk is horrible

[zealous kestrel]

2 free goals?

thats bad?

Lazy Worker gives 2 free goals

but you aint saying anything about that

I swear

Oh and the speed boost

Chrollo style has that same thing

and worse at most

So his awk is just Lazy Worker's Awk + Chrollo's Awk

thats soooo op

like im not understanding how we think THIS is op

not to mention its only 2 dunks

4 points

[blissful nova]

BUHHHHHHHHHHHH

[turbid dome]

it's two 3s if you don't use it just for a cutscene

still not really op though

[inland hedge]

Ngl save your comments

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-creepypasta-cat-schizo-cat-mentalcat-gif-2156904392573334588

[proven raptor]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1403626684351254568

[compact hamlet]

Nerf saiki not cyber

Cyber is butt cheeks ngl

[zealous kestrel]

So 6 points

Thats only 2 3 pointers needed

To tie with them

[turbid dome]

right. not op

[north dome]

Bro literally cyber's awk is the one being op its his base thats balanced

[turbid dome]

both his base and ult are balanced

psychic is the problem

[sullen trail]

psychic way too op

[raven timber]

yeah psychic is annoying, theres N O down sides to him breh

[sullen trail]

bro has an auto pass, and auto 3 point, an opponent confuser

dont even get started on his ult bro

[pale vapor]

Cyber is okay in base form for me but in ult that stuns enemy team is diabolical work 😭😭😭

[turbid dome]

tat has the same move

[pale vapor]

But u can use tatlis 1 time

I expierence people use it two times

[turbid dome]

i mean yeah ig but his ult still not really op

[pale vapor]

Tatlis or psychic?

[turbid dome]

cyber?

[pale vapor]

Oh yea i forgot

Ult isnt problem its just that stun

Psychic is the problem itself.

[turbid dome]

yeah

[compact hamlet]

Psychic is a problem entirely

It’s strange how psychic has a better three point move and you don’t have to spin for it

Ordinary shot is just way better then projectile

[pale vapor]

Yeah 😭

It’s diabolical

Lowk nerf his shoot speed and its alr

[cyan orchid]

If chrollo makes it specifically, we couldn't expect more from him

Chrollo style incident over again.

[pale vapor]

Tatlis was more diabolical

[cyan orchid]

I remember his snap used to be free safe zone

[pale vapor]

Tatlis made cyber 90% balanced while psychic is diabolical

[pale vapor]

Off ball move 💔💔

[compact hamlet]

Give it a startup like cybers why does or remove cybers startup 😭

Why does cyber have to have a startup but saiki doesn’t

[pale vapor]

Its chrollo

[cyan orchid]

Chrollo makes it

[pale vapor]

His game his rules

[compact hamlet]

Also I think they should removed 100% passes

Like saikis pass

And gold

[cyan orchid]

Gold one is acceptable because the fact that lock exist

(giant and star can snatch the gold pass too😭😭)

[compact hamlet]

I just don’t like how you see guaranteed to get the ball

Makes it brainless

Are*

[pale vapor]

Did someone just complain about Gold nash jr

He is miracle twin

Remove CURSED DASH BLACK FLASH

ITS DIABOLICAL

[cyan orchid]

Yo gng

Is this a offensive ?

IS P WORD EXIST?

https://tenor.com/view/shock-gif-25165862

[outer breach]

anything relatively offensive is automodded

[pseudo temple]

This happened to me I tried to explain what does pmo to someone in chat 😭

[cyan orchid]

My brain ain't processing right, is this an hallucinations?

[compact hamlet]

By this logic since Chrollo made psychic hes fine 😭???

[pseudo temple]

This is definitely a hallucination twin

[compact hamlet]

Passes that 100% give you the ball should not be in the game

[royal pebble]

Bro what

[compact hamlet]

Literally what

They should atleast be somewhat block-able

[royal pebble]

There legit glitch passed and you don’t think passes should be 100% unless stolen?

[outer breach]

yeah nah

[outer breach]

no

[pale vapor]

Its limited and every style on release was op and gold was nerfed to be offensive style what u want people spamming pressure or gold pass?

[outer breach]

[compact hamlet]

Reasons?

[compact hamlet]

What

[royal pebble]

No ball knowledge

[compact hamlet]

What’s the skill in this tho

[royal pebble]

Passes are blockable for 1 and it’s hard to pass 100% with lock and all the bugs

[outer breach]

Would literally ruin passing moves, if you can block it, you can intercept it, what's the point of even using passing moves?? also passes are literally easy to deal with a majority of the time

[royal pebble]

Exactly

Passes aren’t even 100%

[compact hamlet]

Not really most of the time there’s no range on these passing moves, second most people don’t guard correctly, these passes ankle break you aswell and basically give you a free goal half the time

[compact hamlet]

There’s literally one character that intercepts move passes

Not regular passes

[outer breach]

there's a LOT more than that

[royal pebble]

With passing abilities you can get broken but still

[royal pebble]

Lazy, lock, giant, or just jump and steal

[compact hamlet]

you should be able to jump infront of who it’s going too like normal passes

[compact hamlet]

Oh yea

Whoops

[royal pebble]

You can

Unless it’s gold needle pass

[compact hamlet]

Not with move passes like gold and psychic and emperor

There’s a lot of moves that do that

I’m not talking about normal passes

I’ve said that like 4 times

[royal pebble]

Gold can be stop

With giant and lock

[outer breach]

passes are literally fine in the game rn

[compact hamlet]

No one runs those

[compact hamlet]

Normal passes are

[outer breach]

when you play 3v3 you get to see how much worse they are when pump passing is removed

[compact hamlet]

Moveset passes arent

[outer breach]

yes they do??

[compact hamlet]

I don’t do pump passing

[compact hamlet]

I see no one run giant or locked anymore

And maybe a star

[outer breach]

giant is the most popular 2v2 style lock is an insanely popular 3v3 style

[royal pebble]

Everyone is giant

[compact hamlet]

2v2s barely work 😭

[royal pebble]

W knowledge

[compact hamlet]

I get locked in 3v3s tho

But I don’t see that

[outer breach]

so what???? giant is still the most popular there

[royal pebble]

Literally

[pale vapor]

Giant is goated ✌️🌹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[compact hamlet]

I don’t play 2v2s so I wouldn’t know

They should rework older styles

That would be cool

[royal pebble]

It’s annoying

[outer breach]

some of them do

[pale vapor]

Giant doesnt need rework

[outer breach]

yesssss bro someone understands

[pale vapor]

It is but still hes my number 1 main ✌️

[compact hamlet]

I mean playmaker,clutch,flash,and some others I’m forgetting

I think they should be reworked

[royal pebble]

Can’t even shoot it’s why everyone spam dunks

[pale vapor]

Flash can be broken if you know how to play with him

[royal pebble]

There epic n legendary

[outer breach]

Flash is just bad

[royal pebble]

Flash is meta

[compact hamlet]

I know he can but I’m saying his ult seems outdated

[outer breach]

There's no way around it

[pale vapor]

In ranked? I more like his snatch

[outer breach]

Dash taking stamina, sometimes taking a whole stamina bar is extremely outdated

[compact hamlet]

Exactly

[outer breach]

Quickstep drive is still good although remove the force layup since layups r bunz

[compact hamlet]

Real

Layups are trash

[royal pebble]

Layups are random

[compact hamlet]

Layups happen when they feel like it

[royal pebble]

Just dribble back and your good

[outer breach]

Layups r still bunz 💔

need a buff in some way

[royal pebble]

How

[outer breach]

my setup worked

[compact hamlet]

Maybe make it to where you can pass in the middle of the layup to a teammate behind you

Layups suck

[outer breach]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1401769235486871753

[royal pebble]

Hmm not bad

[dire dock]

Cyber is legit perfect

[chilly ore]

slower steal cuz might as well be instant

not reactable

[hardy tulip]

He literally almost perfect

Just slow the steal a bit and you have a perfect style

Not that other one

[icy whale]

how perfect?

[compact hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-cell-gif-11009529955506497046

[icy whale]

cyber is very counterable it doesn't need any nerfs

[compact pecan]

agreed, and im not being bias cause i like cyber, i think the wind up time on projectile is fair and easy to respond to, try me is easily punishable, mine easily punishable with dribbling, and awk is pretty op but thats just how it usully is

[keen flint]

okay, after doing some plays with psychic myself, i see why people wanna nerf it, then again its counterable, just stand behind the person using the Teleport to your side and u can steal the ball from them

pretty much free 3's with this style 😭 🙏

cyber on the otherhand, its fine as is, and if people want nerf, i guess the best thing they can do is nerf the speed when awakened into full psycho then again, that defeats the whole purpose of psycho mode

[azure kraken]

This was done before

People found out how counterable it was

It’s crazy how reliant u are on ur team to use cyber awk

[sudden rampart]

i think psychic needs a big nerf to his first move in base because of the range it can go other moves are fine

[past nebula]

Yo this has nothing to do with this post but one thing I noticed is that people think that if a style is rarer it should be better but imo it shouldn’t and a clear example of this is brawl stars a rare brawler can compete with a legendary a legendary can compete with a mythic so imo Chrollo and friends should try to balance their game like brawl stars

[near talon]

Psychic needs a nerf bad

[past nebula]

Confusion is doo doo

The only thing that I think needs a nerf is tp range the rest is manageable

[dusty crane]

Confusion is such a good ability what

Its so useful for offense or defense

You can make someone miss their shot because of the sudden change

Or you can set a teamate up by using confusion on their defender

[rough nova]

Bet you wouldn’t be saying these if you got it yourself

[near talon]

I have the style..

😐

[lusty furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326149032904622104/1404421964243795968/image0.gif

[candid harbor]

sukii was on a diff post talking bout some

"buff psychic"

[past nebula]

I mean that’s ur opinion but I just got used to the mixed controls and now it’s like useless

[dusty crane]

Then you're playing against bad psychic players because its not something to just be spammed. It's useless if people just use it whenever

It requires timing

Like when you're wide open and about to shoot

Or if a teamate is at the three point line and someone is defending

[past nebula]

Ig in specific situations it’s good but I already adapted to it it’s like the move just doesn’t work on me tbh if u just play against psychic a lot u learn how to counter play it

[dusty crane]

Not really a situational ability. It's one of the most versatile abilities in the game and its not too op but it's useful

Its the perfect definition of balanced imo

[past nebula]

Imo just give it 2 weeks max and people will have already adapted and it’ll be useless

[near talon]

what an idiot

this does need to be nerfed tho

I mean honestly I am very disappointed in the devs

Bump

[versed pecan]

Bump

[versed pecan]

psychic in unreal to counter only predict and that's is hard

[near talon]

not to mention the confusion move

very idiotic and very spammy

all kids do is spam

spam spam spam

[versed pecan]

Fr

[near talon]

spam spam

U think this is bad?

Just wait till the other limiteds comes out

[versed pecan]

I cant even play 2v2 with friend cuz psychic in every match

[woeful yoke]

This guy and 33 others get it

[woeful yoke]

"Spam" and every moveset only has 2 moves with cooldowns

Totally bro Totally

[woeful yoke]

Improvise, adapt, overcome

If me and my duo can beat two psychics while using star and phantom, you can do it too twin

We believe

[versed pecan]

They just suck

[woeful yoke]

No they were decent actually

Everyone was gold something so yknow

We were all playing well

[versed pecan]

Ik it real to beat psychics but when they all what they do just spamming over and over again + game bugs sometimes

[woeful yoke]

Its not spam dawg

Everyone has two moves

All the moves have cooldowns

Its not spam

Spam would be a move with no cooldown that someone can just tap over and over again

Spam would be using a move with no cd turned on in a ps+

[quartz oak]

God forbid i wanna use my move?

[versed pecan]

Then use?

[quartz oak]

so if i use it, how is it spamming? (rhetorical, don’t answer)

[versed pecan]

I said it because all what they did just used skills whole game

They dont even shoot single time

[tranquil thicket]

Fr for me is kinda easy to block ordinary shot

[past nebula]

I didn’t say the whole style is bad just said confusion is

Didn’t say the style wasn’t op too

[waxen yew]

Meanwhile you got people spamming free 3’s

[dusk moat]

Psychics teleport is kinda op bout besides that it's all balanced. Cybers the most predictable one out of all limiteds besides chrollo

[waxen yew]

Again free 3’s no global cooldown

Imagine how mad i was last night when facing 3 psychic’s

[past nebula]

Not really free 3 u can block it just not with abilities like emp reach

[waxen yew]

Not when its instantly

Plus bro meant it to be free 3

[past nebula]

Nah still blockable and hella predictable

[past nebula]

Exactly near u can’t block it with abilities that’s it

[waxen yew]

So your the thing is have you ever blocked it

[past nebula]

Ya

[waxen yew]

Mhm sure

[compact hamlet]

How about we remove locked instead

[past nebula]

Quite easily

[past nebula]

Agreed

[waxen yew]

Agree

[compact hamlet]

I hate how’s there nothing you can do when he takes the ball

🫩

[past nebula]

I mean if u don’t trust that’s u im just saying u can block it the only nerf he needs is tp range

I mean something has to be going wrong if the post is 197/42

[waxen yew]

Atleast give that thing a nerf

[compact hamlet]

It’s cause he said nerf cyber

I bet that’s why

[past nebula]

Ya the tp range not the shot

[compact hamlet]

If he didn’t include cyber the post would be fine

[waxen yew]

I rather want the shot to be nerfed (aka global cooldown)

[past nebula]

Idk before that the post was the same thing

[past nebula]

That’s u but almost everybody is saying nerf tp range that’s it

Cause if u nerf tp and shot the whole move is useless

[waxen yew]

I agree bout tp but thats cause its free points

Have we not seen chrollo

Anything with free points is safe with anyone

[past nebula]

Chrollo has full court that’s near instant we can’t be talking about ordinary shot if that exists

[waxen yew]

His is full court when awk

[past nebula]

So we saying reverse dunk needs a nerf?

[past nebula]

When awk is fine but in the past it was op

[waxen yew]

HECK YEA

[past nebula]

Heck no

The style is balanced

Just get better

(Talking abt bbg)

[waxen yew]

Same for you with teleport then

[past nebula]

I’m saying tp needs a nerf

The shot doesn’t tho

[wet horizon]

are you saying reverse dunk is guaranteed?

[waxen yew]

And ordinary shot needs a global cooldown

[wet horizon]

reverse dunk's blockable

[past nebula]

That’s what he said

[waxen yew]

Yea when you have bbg zone

[past nebula]

So is ordinary shot

[past nebula]

No it doesn’t r we deaduzz

[wet horizon]

Well in that case any dunk is unblockable

[waxen yew]

Im saying it needs a global cooldown

[past nebula]

No it doesn’t

It’s blockable

[waxen yew]

Correct

[wet horizon]

ordinary shot needs a windup at the least

[waxen yew]

Not when its 3 people with psychic

[past nebula]

So should Chrollo half court

Then

[wet horizon]

chrollo half court can be blocked with moves

[past nebula]

Not when it’s 3 people with Chrollo

[waxen yew]

I legit fought 3 peeps with psychic and they spammed that crap

1.pass
2.spammed shot

[wet horizon]

it should either have a windup or get rid of its ability cancellation thing

[past nebula]

Ok but it’s wayy faster

[waxen yew]

But thats yall’s opinion

[wet horizon]

than ordinary shot? aren't they both frame one?

[past nebula]

Then itd just be Chrollos shot

[waxen yew]

Wym chrollo is easy to block

[wet horizon]

without the chance to fail

At the cost of less range

[past nebula]

Tbh for me it’s easier to block ordinary shot

[past nebula]

So is ordinary

[past nebula]

80% r we serious

[past nebula]

And ordinary ain’t even fully half court

[wet horizon]

I run an average of 85ish ping man, it's going right through me 85% of the time

[waxen yew]

I am glad confusion did get a global cooldown tho

[past nebula]

That’s a u problem

[wet horizon]

That's a vast majority of the playerbase's problem

[past nebula]

It didn’t

[waxen yew]

It did

[past nebula]

Not really u the first one u seen complain abt ping

[wet horizon]

I've seen several people talk about ping when it comes to this

[waxen yew]

Confusion has a global cooldown go ask in #❓・questions

[past nebula]

So u want half his moves to have global cd

[past nebula]

Not me

[waxen yew]

I want a move thats NIGH UNBLOCKABLE to have global cooldown

[past nebula]

Nearrrrr

Just block it

[ancient sandal]

terrible rage bait

[past nebula]

If u can’t block without abilities that’s a skill issue

[waxen yew]

Bro just ragebaiting atp

[past nebula]

It’s the same as Chrollo half court just can’t be blocked with abilities

And it’s not fully half court too

[waxen yew]

You say chrollo’s is harder to block even tho i see 80% of the playerbase block it

[past nebula]

The only nerf he needs is tp range

[past nebula]

So do I I see a lot of people block ordinary

[waxen yew]

Hey thats your opinion i wont change it

[past nebula]

WITHOUT ABILITIES

[waxen yew]

Bro capping we not you lil bro

[past nebula]

Fair

[waxen yew]

Also where does it say that

Ik its in game but nigh unblockable is basically 99% unblockable

[past nebula]

Someone just said they both have the same wind up just that it can’t be blocked with abilities so just block it the same way I block Chrollo half court without abilities

[past nebula]

Emphasis on near

[waxen yew]

Then if they have the same windup why you having a skill issue blocking chrollo then

[past nebula]

If they nerf the shot they gotta keep the tp they cant nerf both

[past nebula]

I’m not I’m just saying it’s easier for me

[waxen yew]

Shiiii look at tatlis

[past nebula]

Tatlis has one good move

[waxen yew]

Hey look at chrollo

[past nebula]

Chrollo has 2 good moves

[waxen yew]

They nerfed snap and colored strike

[past nebula]

And insane awk

[waxen yew]

At the same time

[past nebula]

Cs on ball and without still really good

[waxen yew]

Same with psychic

[past nebula]

Tatlis still top 3

[past nebula]

Psychic awk is good if u know how to use it

[waxen yew]

I agree but still they nerfed 2 moves at the same time before

Why cant they do it again

[past nebula]

These r the same people that Finna complain about Spider-Man and venom

[waxen yew]

That i 100% agree with you on

[past nebula]

Ya but they buffed Tatlis too they buffed the speed of cs

[waxen yew]

But since chrollo is working on venom i doubt hes not gonna get a fair nerf

[past nebula]

Fr venom and spidey finna make psychic look doo doo

[waxen yew]

Brother tatlis has 8-9 nerfs to his name

Chrollo has 4-5

[past nebula]

Ya but cs off ball is still top 3 moves in the game

[past nebula]

Still top 3

And still very meta

Both of em

[waxen yew]

Do you wanna know why he has that many nerfs

[past nebula]

It was op ik

[waxen yew]

No

[past nebula]

But after global cd he ain’t need another nerf

They even nerfed snap range

When it was doo doo

[past nebula]

Tell me developer of bbz

[waxen yew]

They just wanted color strike to not have guranteed steal thats the only reason why he got nerfed 8-9 times

[past nebula]

It still has it so what’s the point

[waxen yew]

Ngl thats the exact words i said

Hell have we seen what people tried to do to emperor

[past nebula]

Still the move is op

[past nebula]

Emp is good enough now remember when he realsed

[waxen yew]

Ik i was here when perfection dropped

[past nebula]

I was here when giant dropped

[waxen yew]

Blink had that global cooldown and we dont see perfection no more

So we know blink carried perfection mainly

[past nebula]

Fr but stilll top 10

[waxen yew]

Agree

Ngl 777 toppled perfectionist

[past nebula]

The shot was basically the same as green on 3 pointer

[waxen yew]

Now 777 is #1 meta zone

[past nebula]

Not in 2v2 in 2v2 real basketball is better

[waxen yew]

That shot was basically ace

[waxen yew]

Fun fact i never lost with 777 5 dribbles is busted

[past nebula]

Not really more like green on 3 pointer line

[past nebula]

Fr

Gold vision prime was better tho

[waxen yew]

Agree

Gold had the worse nerf of all imo

[past nebula]

Fr and they said they finna replace the move and they hadn’t to this day

[waxen yew]

Bro lost a amazing move

[past nebula]

It was wayy too op tho

[waxen yew]

And people are complaining to give it back

[past nebula]

Nah we don’t need that

Just give him a new defensive move

[waxen yew]

We really dont need it back

[past nebula]

Agreed

[waxen yew]

I really cant fathom the amount of hypocrites in this community

[past nebula]

Fr

[pure basin]

Delete the game

[compact hamlet]

Me when lock

[pure basin]

Someone tell chrollo to delete the game

[quartz oak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789741228139872279/1196738419955617792/caption.gif

[hasty abyss]

not even too hard just copies of the same people

[onyx flume]

beo

cyber base just ok

not op

[chilly ore]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkie-pink-role-pink-roles-pink-discord-gif-18343177215267997584

[viscid latch]

https://feedback.playcurrent.com/t/fracture-style/575

[icy whale]

he's right when he says nerf psychic though?

[outer breach]

they both need nerfs idk what people mean

david's awk is literally unstoppable and psychic's base is just busted

i have no clue how you manage to make an awakening unbalanced but they did that

[quartz oak]

yes

[icy whale]

cyber is so counterable

[quartz oak]

fr

[icy whale]

as long as cyber awk doesn't get the ball

you're fine

[quartz oak]

i’m convinced the ONLY reason yall say cyber is OP is purely because of the awakening

[icy whale]

nah the OP is targetting the base

that's why there's so much clowns

on this

[quartz oak]

yall be forgetting cyber has drawbacks 💔

[quartz oak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789741228139872279/1196738419955617792/caption.gif

[icy whale]

and even if you do get the boost from try me or smth its still a lil counterable

[quartz oak]

plus it’s SO obvious when they use it

[icy whale]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-patrick-bottle-gif-6605208024845857705

[quartz oak]

they just sit there

[icy whale]

the only reason I fall for it is when there's a lot of people so I can't really see

but most of the time there's really not that much

[quartz oak]

it’s kinda the same for me

[outer breach]

yes??

[quartz oak]

you forgot it has a drawback though didn’t didn’t you?

[icy whale]

@outer breach

[outer breach]

we have a style named quick and he’s half the speed of david’s awk

[icy whale]

well yeah

quick needs a buff

like that boost

[quartz oak]

who really uses quick 😐

like that was a horrible counterpoint

[icy whale]

I don't like it when styles literally made for something gets overshadowed by smth else

[outer breach]

style based on speed vs sandevistan

[icy whale]

to be fair its a RARE

[outer breach]

but it should be fast no?

[icy whale]

literally 60% chance to get it with a normal spin I'm pretty sure

[quartz oak]

it’s a rare style…

[outer breach]

yet if it’s based on speed
it should be fast

[quartz oak]

there’s no way you expected a rare style to be the fastest thing in the game

[icy whale]

quick should still get a speed buff tbh

its kinda underwhelming rare or not

[quartz oak]

i’m not denying that

i’m just saying for a rare style you couldn’t have expected it to be that fast

[outer breach]

i’m not but it’s awk is literally nowhere near david’s speed in awk

[quartz oak]

by this logic fetch should be the best hustle style in the game but it’s not

[outer breach]

cyber’s awk is just unbalanced, going 4x the speed of a normal player isn’t balanced at all even for an awk
he still has more moves to use in awk, nerfing his speed won’t automatically kill the style

[icy whale]

as long as cyber doesn't get the ball you're fine

[outer breach]

🤦

[quartz oak]

and it’s so easy to keep the ball away from a cyber

[icy whale]

and the speed isn't that major that he'll just get the ball right there

[icy whale]

it's true though???

[outer breach]

so no scoring got it

[quartz oak]

no one said no scoring?

[icy whale]

you can hold the ball stay close to your teammates

or score yourself

[quartz oak]

i’m PRETTY sure a cyber is going for a 3

[outer breach]

use some common sense here
if you score, the other team gets the ball

[quartz oak]

so just…play perimeter defense

[icy whale]

you can still block the moves with blocking moves btw

i mean block cyber with the blocking moves

[quartz oak]

now lets use some common sense, you know the cyber is gonna run to half court, just intercept the pass

[icy whale]

hold the ball a little then

[quartz oak]

and even if they don’t, “The Moon” only lasts so long

they’re gonna rush the shot and not dribble

[outer breach]

if you don’t have blocking moves you’re basically screwed
counter play with styles just isn’t good game design anyways

[quartz oak]

so steal the ball?

[icy whale]

you have no blocking moves and you're gonna complain about cyber being fast?

that's like complaining about sniper's perfect arc because you're not close enough

[quartz oak]

so if a game has no counter play it’s better than a game with counter play?

[outer breach]

yup so there’s a cyber and i’m not playing a defensive style gg

[icy whale]

@outer breach

[quartz oak]

so then your argument is irrelevant

[icy whale]

exactly

[quartz oak]

you refuse to actually adapt to the style you play against

therefore you have no right to complain about a nerf

[outer breach]

and how am i supposed to do that when it’s literally 4x as fast as me and i have no defense

[quartz oak]

play literally any chase down style

[icy whale]

if your teammates don't have defense either then idk what to tell you

[quartz oak]

switched, ace, psychic’s teleport

God forbid you ACTUALLY adapt?

[icy whale]

much more styles with blocking moves btw

[quartz oak]

plus the person using the moon is sitting in your face, so you can easily hit them with anything and they’ll fall for it

[outer breach]

this is stupid
games are ment to have fun, you can’t have fun when you’re bound to a style that you don’t want to use because another style exists

[quartz oak]

you also forgot you get stunned after the move wears off

[icy whale]

so how is cyber's awk gonna be any useful if a normal person without abilities can stop it

that just makes it so bad as a limited

[quartz oak]

so then by this very same logic, no one in this player base is happy because we’re all bound to adapt

[spice harness]

To be honest with cyber, I think it’s personally only his ultimate but shouldn’t ultimate somewhat be unbalanced

[outer breach]

that’s literally balanced and like i said
you have more moves in awk

nerfing the speed won’t kill it

[icy whale]

"nerfing the most important part of what makes cyber relevant won't make people stop using it"

[outer breach]

that’s not even what makes cyber relevant??

[quartz oak]

actually, what styles do you play?

[quartz oak]

yes it is.

[icy whale]

it is

[outer breach]

no?

[quartz oak]

“Try me” has counter play

[icy whale]

the base is dog

[quartz oak]

“Mine” just dribble

[outer breach]

it’s solid

[icy whale]

not solid

every single move is counterable

[quartz oak]

implant can be either blocked or have a move used to block it

[outer breach]

“every move is balanced”

that’s literally what i’m hearing

[icy whale]

there's a difference between "counterable" and "balanced"

this base moveset is WAY too easy to counter

[quartz oak]

you can’t seem to read huh?

i gave 3 examples to how Cyber’s base is counterable

[quartz oak]

^ aka don’t steal the ball because they make it way too obvious

[icy whale]

(the psycho bar is counterable as well btw)

[quartz oak]

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[quartz oak]

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[outer breach]

i’m talking to him rn i don’t type fast enough to automatically respond to both of you in a second

[quartz oak]

that explains a lot

[outer breach]

❓

[quartz oak]

like, a whole lot of this “debate”