#NERF CYBER AND PSYHIC DEBATE
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And I see people go through dribble frames
no
Either you wait for their dribbles to end or you wait for a pump fake you can also steal from a post form with it
Yes
A ragebait unless youāre assuming heās talking about base
If limited styles stop getting added the game will die out
also bro they nerfed clutch this update
they fixed its goaltending
and it took skill and it was ez to counter anyway
now clutch is just garbage
@empty sun
He wasnāt really all that great anyways but this is just overkill
Yea thatās what I do but atm I donāt use it
Since I want to get the old styles I had back
Also if you get the steal off your lucky bounce automatically restores
Kk
clutch was fun as hell to use before this update
i mean clutch pressure defense goaltending is basically perfection's blink
also ppl who say perfection is bad r bad at the game
^
Ok?
It did get nerfed to the ground tho
"to the ground"
they made it take braincells to use
even though bbz is a low skill ceiling game
people still want to score instantly with one button
and a good perfection will bring more value than chrollo btw
cuz of blink
It doesn't take very many.
Yes it is by far the worst limited class style in the game
over some other styles
false
Bruh.
if your style has at least one
defensive ability
that works well
it will already boost your style
by a lot
Think of it like this
It takes more thought into it than switcher
With switcher you press 1 button and you score
True.
Perfection you have consequences with your play
yes
blink guarantees a block but doesnt guarantee that you take the ball same as with the normal block
also perfect dribble
you should combine with zones such as speed dribble
Most people now know to keep a teammate at half.
not just press perfect dribble then press perfect step and say perfection is mid
Just make blink slap the ball to the closest team mate and Iām pretty sure nobody would complain
I think a lot of people would onsidering the range it has.
you cant pick it up for around 2 seconds
i mean you can
teammates cant
enemy cant
for 2 seconds
only you
but also regardless even if enemy gets the ball after your blink
you already ruined some positioning
bot for your team and their team
so its more of a full reset button
no
Wha
fetch's dive and blink
Just you?
yes
Ohhh
But
Shouldnāt it be teleporting
Cus itās cell
Same speed but just different visually
Back to this suggestion
What does it mean by nerf cyber AND psychic
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ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Considering their track record w. limited styles, it's a valid concern.
Recently itās either that itās game breaking or itās underwhelming
(On release)
I think cyber is the only style that actually did that
Cyber is in a weird spot due to base being pretty mid, and its awk being very good.
Itās good if used properly
If Cyber manages to get a Precision implant (the half court) its deadly. Otherwise, it can be countered by just about anyone. And if there's a lock, a lock can shut em down.
I can't get the timing at all with the steal.
This is exactly what I wanted (base moveset, I hate the awk)
The steal's timing makes absolutely no sense to me.
the awk is overpowered that freezes you and get the ball back as well and they have a boost which makes no sense
I'm talking base, not awk.
I agree with the awk
Just not base
Nobody is going to say the awk isnt busted.
And if they are they're baiting or delusional.
the base needs a slight nerf tbh
I hard disagree.
In what move
Isnāt it supposed to be good though
Just curious
Cuz itās an awakening
The only nerf I'd even consider to base Cyber is the block timing on precision.
Or w.e the shot is called.
the move where you can't steal it automatically freezes you
..
Compare it to chrolloās chaos or perfectionās evolution or jackpotās jackpot
Are you talking about Try Me?
If you're referring to try me, it's literally a free steal.
Wait for the cyber to stagger, and then steal the ball.
sure it is buddy when you steal and you get stunned for a variation of a period of time
Unless they have siberian ping you'll get the ball every time.
Is that the move where you get a boost if someone steals you?
Yeah.
Literally just wait for them to stagger.
It has VFX?
Are you colorblind?
It has visual effects
So when the effects go away when you can steal?
Yes he is
Yeah
I mean it would make sense.
But it feels like he is
No like
But people can shoot near while effects are happening
Once you see the Cyber standing up and the VFX are gone you can steal the ball.
Even when out of dribbles
When heās stunned you steal
The afk needs a nerf as well
the animation is also long too
I meant the awk
Not afk
Mb
Youāre complaining about animation?
Dude
I need the speed nerfed
Wait till psychic comes out torrmmow it's gonna be tatlis and chrollo all over again
God forbid someone pops 777 or perfectionist zone.
I have perfectionist, managed to get the speed bost from implants earlier. That, plus perfectionist, and then the moon, the speed is practically uncontrollable.
When is 777 gonna get a nerf???
its mad long and annoying but I'm not really making it a big deal the awk has moves that freeze everybody right in place total cringe and has a whole speed boost worse than chrollo speed boost when he has his awk
this game isn't basketball zero
Youāre talking about cutscenes? Honestly I felt like the cutscenes were a bit too long
its limited zero
The game stopped being basketball zero when perfection dropped.
It's been limited zero ever since.
Doubly so when chrollo and tatlis dropped.
yap
Wha
even projectile is easy to block
No it is not, unless you're on lock.
no im talking about awk moves bro
Iām tired rn I canāt really read allat
Does he know that the move that makes the whole enemy team unable to move makes the user not able to do anything except from walk
he losing brain cells from sleep that's why he can't answer
I see why school came so early
That ability you are talking about doesnāt need a nerf
the way they made cyber feels like a wasted opportunity nd wasted time š
Until itās out
I can agree
I feel like he should have dribbles
Like an ability to dribble
Not the thing he has already
imo only good part about cyber
is that dunk awakening move
thats it
like ti looks cool
feels basketball
Hell nah
everything else doesnt
True
You guys all fell for the ragebait and itās sad
Huh?
people can use that move and you can't steal from even if you wait till the color effects is over they can shoot while it's still in motion making it hard to control the ball
Still giving this dweeb attention
what else is new
Ngl he is just dumb
And you still falling for the pump fake
your so smart!
how do you be so smart?
He is saying a move that disables everyone else and disables you from doing inputs except for walking is broken
Wtf that makes no sense to nerf psychic dude
Yap
Dawg it dosent take a second to learn how to go against, grab a friend go in a private and learn
Its true tho
Ik
Did it with cyber and itās to easy to go against
Read my other messages
In fact the people are using cyber are throwing their own games
I can see why itās fun tho
They are saying an awakening move that makes your opponents unable to move and makes you powerless except from walking is broken as hell š„
But for rank HELL NO
Itās alright you can still get the ball back
And if your fast enough you can pass and dribble while inside the ult
not to mention the speed boost and the steal spam
btw
way worse than chrollo
Speed boost isnāt even that big of a deal
Wdym steal spam
And steal spam, bro just dribble
and he says im ragebaiting š
You are ragebaiting at this point
Iām telling you
-10/10 ragebait
when people have the boost it gives them ability to get the advantage on all sizes of the court and they can spam the ball with the boost
and they have an ability that freezes everybody on spot bro
(use jackpot or switcher)
Easy counter
No on defense bro
You think a boost is gonna stop a switcher from punching you in the face?
I'm talking about when they on offense using the stun move on awk
Even the cyber dash counters that mode
and I'm on defense bro
50% chance btw
only thing that counters it is tatlis cause of the guaranteed steal
of you goaltend with giant
or use switcher like you said and get lucky if you get the 50 stun move
But since people have to rely on limited ill just using tatlis again and abusing the guaranteed steal move
Yea will not work
Itās called passing
I got champ in 2s last szn cause of tatlis btw
so we clear
Fax
I know you don't cause you know im right
How yall dpin
ON DEFENSE
Tatlis steal is to slow to steal from cyber ult
defense
I donāt do ranked
Jackpot is better
We doing good
my god
Ranked is a waste of time to me
Got to use the steal right or your cooked
Ikr
And in the frozen state im pretty sure only teammates can steal
Jackpot is 50/50 switcher has a 50% chance to stun tatlis is guaranteed if you catch them off guard or approach and time it
Bro only goes against newcomers
Jackpot is not 50/50š
Ikr
Only way you can steal with jackpot if they use all they dribbles and nobody falls with jackpot steal unless your in bot lobbies
Bro is supposed to be champ rank and doesnāt know the basics of tatlis sucks if your against a competent team
Jackpot is a dead idiotic style and only gets recognize because of the steal move all kids do is spam the move after a person uses all their dribbles
Heās not champ or anything
Jackpot still not 50/50
yall know im right
Plat 2 at best
last szn I was
yes I was
Not this one but last one I was
Not even plat 2
Type
Bro feels like a bronze
The psyhic style is so broken i cant wait for it to be public
I donāt even think heās ranked
says the one defending a limited
I donāt even do ranked and ik how to counter a Tatlis
I know bro chrollo reached out to me personally to try it
A limited thatās not even that good
I wish...
Cyber is actually really balanced compared to the rest
Me personally i qas playing ranked with it
It's not terrible and its not op
Pyshic is brokem
What he geeking about
Talking about cyber
I was using psyhic and smoked him
can't steal when the effects are going in motion and the awk is op cringe
So you are a tester
Babe let me have it
No...
Iāll be the judge of that šŗšŗ
You obviously dont want it
MY PASSWORD IS CHROLLO GLAZER69
@teal basin show a clip of you in ranked with a legendary or mythic or miracle in diamond or higher you won't
nice dodge
Ima. Legend
LOL
And i was champ last season
What do you think of psyhic
Idc if he's ragebaiting
And I use to use flash to get to champ
he's funny
Its so broken people in ranked think im hacking š
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Do you think flash is broken
Nah
I thought psychic was suppose to come torrmmow
I donāt believe Dsigns was a champ rank
Yeah but chrollo let me and Jon have it early because we like that
Ima make a yt channel to showcase movesets on bbz
Even the ones that cannot be used

most people who play bbz are crappy console players
console players on Roblox are known for being dumb
Fun fact the switcher style was supposed to have a zone called savior
really dumb
Brodie is hating console players now
you a console player ain't it
It's time to go home brošāļø
Wdym
š
I play on linux
You mean the only 2 consoles?
More like blow station š
Bro doesnāt know how easy it is to counter tatlis
Nintedo switch
Oh
I play on a Samsung fridge
Nintendo switch highkey not doing anything without exploding
True
what
Who cares broš«©āļø
Im a console/pc/moblie player
Yet doesnāt know how to counter a tatlis
The one thing we can agree on
š„
Tatlis is easy to counter
i am actually a samsung smart fridge user
Finally
bold of you to assume that i use console
about time chowder
Yeah no I know this
preach
I play on a gameboy now
Only thing I can say is playing Roblox on console sucks
Power to the people who do tho
@teal basin every since PlayStation came out on Roblox kids think they know it all
how does this post have 100 clown emojis...
I meant Roblox came out on PlayStation
it cant be that bad...
You might be right on that
Because dsigns is an idiotš
Read and youāll find out
Cause they console players and they hating
PlayStation ruined console
no no reaper just summed it up.
Hating on you for what tho
Read boy
The stupidest takes known to man
Most of Roblox is filled with crappy console players that think they know everything
Hating on him for wanting to nerf a balanced style
Ts!
can u specify which percentage
the style is not balanced once again
if the console players are so crappy, why cant you beat them? š the style isnt allat.
It is
Hey this might be the highest forms of ragebait, but an opinion is an opinion and as much as I donāt agree Iāll respect it
Fun fact
bro why you cooking all of a sudden
Atleast more than 10% of console players clapped him
People be typing anything for attentionš«©
I might ragebait a little but Iām a realist
Iāve heard worse takes
and is wrong
it literally denounces what you just said...
It proves a lot
not all of Google information is right
My friend says when tatlis first came out was perfectly balanced
Notice how nobody on dsigns side
so at some point you just know every player in the world, got it. You are something.
So that means your information isnāt correct either
This must prove something
It was never balanced even till this day only reason I use it to counter kids who spam
tatlis has a guaranteed steal move
I think itās balanced now
it is. its too regular, its not limited worthy anymore. :P
Nah you trippin
I think the steal is still a selling point
1 second later gets punched in the face by 5 switchers
the snap move on tatlis is so disappointing tho
Only thing bad abt cyber is the amount of cutscenes
Itās one of the only things (besides lock) that counters the unblockable dunk cheese
Disagree but I do agree about the cutscenes
yeahhhh
Nothing else can do that
the cutscenes are so annoying bro
Not even jackpot
I got it in 9
I really don't want psyhic to come out
I already know it's gonna be better than cyber
without a doubt
oh na
They only issue I got with cyber is the cutscenes broo
Too long
YESS BROKK
I miss when they used to be short
like I joined a random public server and see 8 cybers
oh na
They were short and so fire broo
Yeah bro its a new style
Almost like everyone wants to try it out!!!
Yooo whatās a new style never heard of it
and people say this game didn't require skill that's how you know nobody here is really og og like played when it first came out first few weeks out
Honestly cyber aināt all dat bad
Reaper of omaha style
Something called afk
always the non factors bro too*
"Real og" you're a dork vroš
you play on a PlayStation in 2025
please shut up š
Notice how nobody caresš
why is cyber so tuff
Lmk
Some people has financial problems so get a life
he can afford a 500+ console but not a budget gaming pc nice logic
nice logic buddy
š
Most pcs is too bad to even run Roblox now
literally just use a phone š¤·
Thatās a budget one
man this community is so dumb but it's funny at the same time
Friggin tuff
Damn bros clowning on himself š„
I played the game on release, and the game was not balanced. We had star just flying across the map(even till this day) and we had cross map passing.
Kind of ironic
š
Trueeee
You could literally play hot potato with ball and win
Why are we arguing over something stupidš
Star was horrible before the re work?
like what
It was NOT
there a reason why it got re worked
Idk but itās funny
Yall just werenāt using it right
Because I hate psychic teamš
there was no on ball moves just sky leap and star dunk and dash to get open
that's why it got re worked
Those were simpler times man
But the rework wasnāt rlly a rework tho all they did was change effects add 1 or 2 moves then added a chemical
opinions vary
it was better than old star
thats the point
Star was never bad
Idk why we talking about cyber instead of lockš«©
you not og arent you..
I am
I doubt it
And star was good back then
Like you were one
Bro idk why your argument is your not an āogā
I've played like first 5 days when it came out no way you've been playing before jackpot
Like who cares
look at what she is saying than compare it to mine
His argument is cuz he found a style trash when he was using it bad
there is a reason why old is better than new
Style was rlly good
same with microwave meals and homecooked meals
Star style was always good
Star was def underrated
All they did was make it less boring thatās it
I love the fact that dsigns thinks he was an og but says star was trash
When it was rlly good
You had giant and ace users back than as well too
Flash is still goated till this day
I loved flash
But the only styles that were out on release
flash was better than star before the re work and all kids do is glazed it like before jackpot came out
They are good I just despise them
I like flash too
Donāt blame u
It was always balanced
I played the game way before flash was even in the game
Idk the name, but the sandevistan move is absolutely busted
Speeds you up and gives you i-frames for the entire duration
Kaylum is dumb
The full implant move?
Or the frreze time one
It's just cannon me
He said name one move
So you just proved his point
You are dumb
Cyber is in a good place right now I feel like
I donāt like that lazy worker can you itās dribble move when they posted up
Thatās what Iām saying
Cyber is balanced and take skill frfr
I think the only thing then need to nerf is the sandevistan move
Wouldnāt say that
And as long as you're at 3 pointer you get the cutscene move
Tbf it does cuz itās base moveset is a bit too easy to counter
Nothings ever going be perfect could always use some tweaks
I bet you use it
They should make it so you have to have the ball or the guy with the ball is near
Nah, have the ball
This thing is 10x more busted than tatlis
NOOOO
Oh noooo you are annoying cuz you have blink although fetch basically has the same thing
Its jackpot on steroids
Physic gonna be hella op
Ik I told chrollo how to make it
So was chrollo
The teleport move alone is gonna be a problem
(Chrollo still kinda op cuz dribble)
And green
But Green is not a problem
Not right now I donāt think
Bc like 4 other styles have that
Sniper cyber uncle sam and chrollo
They are all blockable
Chrollo has the fastest release tho
Canāt always block that one
Then itās cyber I feel
And then sniper
Most def
And then Sam
It depends with sniper and cyber
Cuz animalistic flow with sniper is busted as hell
Hmm
Actually it does depend a lot
Yeah
Cuz of which varient you are using
2 pointer or 3 pointer
But I would say
Emperor is faster than cyber
That force shot is ungodly with speed
Idk
cyber 1st move implant is just a buff and its not even that good
2nd move is dribbleable
its just ace's instinct dash + steal but abit faster
Cuz thereās 4 variants
Yeah and they are all pretty good
Projectile is good
2 variants gives a boost
The buffs are good
Dash through is good if you can get someone to pass you the ball
Yes broo
And other 2 gives a move
Cyber aint that op his implant projectile move is like sams declaration move has a wind up its blockable his steal can be ankle broken his try me u just have to wait it out its all counterable ur just dumb if u cant go against it the only changes he needs is the long unnecessary awk animation
You also gotta manage your psycho bar
That to
That psycho bar annoys me
Cuz thatās what mainly stops me
Takes like 10 years to get it but lose it within 3 seconds
And that blur needs to be toned down immediately
I would say the stun is a bit too punishing for how little time you have the mode
I feel the mode gives you enough time to make a play if on offense
Thatās if someone passes to you if you donāt lose it
It's hard to lose it when you're faster than them
Nah itās valid
No what I mean is if your team actually passes the ball to you way before you lose that mode
I personally think the stun is fine
I just need this blur to disappear faster
Cuz 90% of the time my teamate passes it to me im basically out of mode and then they blame me for losing the ball
Lmao
I would say the psycho mode is kinda useless
Because 1 of how long it lasts and 2 the punishment from it after
Gives you a 2 or 3 second speed boost and then heavily punishes you after
You get psycho for implants and when its full you enter psycho and when it depletes you get a stun and a blur
I would say for it to deplete a bit slower
But how long is good
How long does it last right now
I think at most it should have a 3 second increase depending on how long it it
I think its more around 5
Or 6
Y r we arguing over something STUPID
That's pretty much the point of this chanel
ok first off stun move is literally tatlis stun buddy
cyber stun doesnt let u steal, dribble or shoot nor pass its only known for teleportation
while tatlis lets you shoot, pass dribble
i dont know what your achieving with this
so before you start complaining about the stun move just remember tatlis stun is more broken than cyber stun
cyber is just to op its like chrollo and tatlis on release
i would say make som changes to cyber but not to severe
yeah ok so he can just demolish the court thats awesome
Hell nah why did I roll for cyber
no that self pass ability actually looks rly cool
Psychic looks way better
self pass is cool i love it
is it tho
anims effects and sfx is clean
i dislike anything of cyber
i think its too messy
too much stuff going on
and cutscenes are cringe
imo
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isnt this bump spam
Anything for attention gangāļøš«©
Lol bros so trash on the game just play steal a brainrott if your that badš
Wait guys
what if the guy who made this is Saiki
knowing his style would be op cuz chrollo made it
I kinda agree with this one because we barely have new play styles that stay in the game and doesnāt go away in a week
Please take away his stealing ability, or nerf him please, I have ping 100+, and I can't even react to this, I don't consider myself bad, but even though I know it's going to happen and click at the right time, I just can't react, because it's too fast, this is simply hellish to play against, not to mention the 3 scenes that this character has, I feel like I'm playing a story mode game and not basketball.
āI donāt consider myself badā yea well you should
i don't have the privilege of having less than 100 ping per game, so when you have to deal with 150 every day in a competitive game, you say something
Bottom 10 suggestions
How r WE still crying when itās all skill issue having a bad device and just being salty cuz yāall canāt get it.
bro, that not the point, the style is too op, that is just unfair
you play comp and youāre complaining about David
yikes
Tell me one thing that itās op, all of its move have a penalty and your saying itās op
True
Mine dude
dribble it
Dude mine ability is good if u don't like ur bad at using it. The confusion is useless and teleport is good. And the pass is nothing special
key word op
theres a difference between good and op
Its not op dude
Dribble a phycic move then
Holy I come back to a 139/21 ratio
Dude teleport is off ball max u do is get the ball when u miss a shot
Besides u gotta aim it and shi
i was talking bout cyber not psychic
Mb
Sorry gng
I absolutely agree with ur opinion then
I think ur just typing shi
yes
Valid
True
Valid psychic tho def needs a nerf
Dude ur spitting nonsense atp
Bro cyber is balanced as hell
U don't even know how i look like
How can u make a stupid assumption and think u ate gng
Yes but phychic aint
Crazy
Nah u don't. If that was meant to be funny u need to grow up
and to any kid thinking im saying this because i "didnt get it"
Yes we said that a million times
this update is horrible, they literally ruined the game for good, this last update today came with such a broken style that I couldn't take it anymore and came to complain, seriously I'm going to stop playing this if it can even be called a game, I regret spending my robux to sponsor these creators.
Crazy work gng
b it looks so mid bro
psychic broken the game
The pass isn't anything new
Ur english is broken
See
Im albanian
K buddy
ur not using it right?
fys
literally
ALL you have to do it use it while someones about to shoot
and it will literally redirect their shot
š
Dude confusion inverts ur controls only
U can literally pass to a friend or shoot
Hes not wrong
so what? we finna ignore the fact he has unblockable shot?
hes still broken
he needs a nerf
and they needa fix those cutscenese
their buns
compared to cyber
its literal garbage
its the best pass
Ur also not wrong
it cant be stolen by lock
143/21 Ratio, Dsign is still unwilling to admit his wrong š
Dude ur stupid af
irony
I swear
lock:
Wrong
Nah
Some unblockable passes can be intercepted by lock
thing is even if u block it
Dude who even uses lock
ball literally jst
Who even uses lock tbh
not even a nerf
But u guys aint wrong
Ur new to the game so it makes sense
But in higher lobbies a lot of people do
In my opinion it's not even a nerf, it needs to be removed, they completely broke the game.
Dude i have seen a low number lock in my games
LUFFY?
does he know
Its not that op to begin with
the 5424th limited style releasing in summer
Dude when u play bbz with "friends" u expect them to guard all opps
Ong
does he know
dawg they needa stop it w these limiteds
yeah but that combined with the overpowered shot
Does make it kinda busted
and itās not even cool
itās js kinda lame and overpowered
Yea using 2 moves for a 3s i can js use ace
no no u dont get it
ace is somewhat easy to block
bro š
ace is not unblockable gng
ace is much easier to block
and has less range
psychic you can jst dribble 3 times and use the first move
only nerf cyber needs
is making the counter more obvious
thats literally it
Yall is the shock zone worth it
both are mid
id just get both if you want
perfectionist still the best flow oat
Theyāre adding luffy, itās gonna be more useless op slop
777:
thats literally jackpot state of 777
perfection is literally 777 with jackpot
777s buffs are larger than perfectionist
But with 5 dribbles
the speed boost is the same tho I think š¤
its a 35% chance
Yes but still 5 dribbles
The shot range is still better than perfectionist
if you have it you wouldnt be debating this š
u can shoot from the logo
it is not
do you have it?
It is
Why when is chrollo vs tatlis he allways make the brokest style in game?
I tested both
it isnt im telling you rn š
777s shot range buff and dribbles are better
I couldnāt shoot w perfectionist at almost half court