#LOCK BUFF IS NOT NECESSARY

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rotund rampart
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didn't you?

tulip kraken
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yeah actually

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let me Reread

rotund rampart
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the reason I suggest the move to be like emperors reach is because the files already exist

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they don't have to make anything new

tulip kraken
brave coral
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Donā€™t even listen to him bro heā€™s just bad at the game

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I literally told this kid how to counter lock and he just says ā€œbut why do I need to do thatā€

rotund rampart
tulip kraken
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yeah? generally when the ball has iframes it is always blockable but unstealable, with jackpot steal being the exception

rotund rampart
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that gives the ball iframes

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meaning it can't be blocked normally

tulip kraken
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ic

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i dont think he should be able to block it with lets say hands up

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but he should be able to intercept it with intercept

brave coral
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If it only got normal passes it would be buns

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Because star giant and lazy worker can get normal passes too

worldly forge
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I hope lock gets more buffs asap

rotund rampart
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whilelock

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while lock*

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just clicks a buttom

brave coral
rotund rampart
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from a half court distance away

brave coral
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So obviously they would need to take extra steps to take a pass

rotund rampart
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you're trying to defend this by saying ''defensive style''

brave coral
rotund rampart
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do you think it should be able to do anything for free?

brave coral
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The other styles I named have numerous ways to score

brave coral
rotund rampart
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not one

brave coral
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It makes you pretty slow all you have to do is use an ability to gain a little bit of distance then shoot or pass

worldly forge
brave coral
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And since theyā€™re stuck in the animation they canā€™t use the other move

tulip kraken
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or if it's just the lock on you

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you can also just do literally nothing and hold w

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lol

brave coral
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That too

worldly forge
brave coral
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Like omg idk if he actually wants to know how to counter lock or not

worldly forge
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Idk what he is tryna say here

brave coral
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Yeah the last time Iā€™ve seen a lock user was in ranked and that was 1 time

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Other than that Iā€™ve seen like like a total of 5 times

worldly forge
brave coral
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But itā€™s slows down once you get to masters

worldly forge
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Lazy worker is kinda busted ngl

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In 3v3 it can be busted if you have 2 friends that use the same style and you just shot and then they use trap and boom instant uncounterable 3 pointer

brave coral
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But nerf lock

worldly forge
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Fr lol

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Like we all ignore that lazy worker exist

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s

brave coral
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And trap has 0 counterplay but lock does

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So idk what heā€™s going on about

worldly forge
brave coral
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Iā€™m saying cuz Iā€™ll be 2 centimeters away from the ball and it wouldnā€™t count as a block

worldly forge
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Fr

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And why does lock got all the hate around him but not lazy worker?

main path
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star

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giant

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perfection

brave coral
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Not even with another trap

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It has iframes

main path
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i just named styles that can counter it

brave coral
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No

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You just lied

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You canā€™t block it with those styles

main path
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ive done it with every single one of those

brave coral
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If so show me a clip

main path
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you can

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try it out

brave coral
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Show me a clip of you blocking trap with the styles you named

main path
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alright

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ion got giant but ill demonstrate it with star and perfection

brave coral
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Show me a clip

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If ur not gonna show a clip shut up

main path
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its common knowledge

brave coral
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Show me a clip

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Idc about what you have to say show me a clip

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Holy

main path
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ill record it later

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the fact that i gotta do this for some common knowledge is insane

brave coral
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And until you show me a clip itā€™s a lie

main path
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word

brave coral
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You canā€™t block trap and you know it

main path
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oh i have

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multiple times

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no he sucks and its evident lol

marsh heart
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what

main path
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hell its normally blockable as well if theyre low enough

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reach also works iirc

marsh heart
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im not sure but

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star and perfection i think yes

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star yes

brave coral
marsh heart
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perfection maybe

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giant i think not

brave coral
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ā€œI thinkā€

marsh heart
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star 100% can jump that

brave coral
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Rank)

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??

marsh heart
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i havent seen perfection or giant

cyan peak
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Giant counters it, another lock counters it, star counters it, jackpot counters it

brave coral
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āœŒļø

cyan peak
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I donā€™t think itā€™s a bigger issue than lazy worker

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No, locks intercept

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But before that I need my Limiteds bank

brave coral
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How if it has a lot of counterplayā€¦

cyan peak
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I was skipping sam on purpose

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Keeping pres though

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Never spinning off perfection

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šŸ™

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Hn

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Canā€™t have that

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Hn

brave coral
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10 people told you all the numerous counterplay and itā€™s like you just turn your brain off once you hear a solution

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Exaggeration

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Holy

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You still havenā€™t shown me a clip of any of those styles blocking trap btw

cyan peak
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Unblockable or not ive lwk seen people do it at half court somehow

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Thatā€™s gotta go

brave coral
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I didnā€™t ask for that

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You can do it half court btw

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For an easy 3

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Is it unfair yes or no

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Yes

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āœŒļø

cyan peak
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Lwk seen a dude do it back to back the other day

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He was trapping it at half court

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Like

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Off of the inbound

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Yea

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Nerf chuck

brave coral
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What style do you even use

cyan peak
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Not much to buff lwk

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Only thing you really can buff about chuck is heat check

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I wish

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Dribble should be guaranteed but make heat check 50/50

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Misses 50% of his shots right

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Only fair

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Lwk

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If it was up to me Iā€™d like heat check to be faster

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And not

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Have the ball sit in the sky for 3 seconds

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After the release

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Behind perfect arc

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Itā€™s definitely 2/98

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I need another ace rework lwk

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Is that so crazy to say

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Everything

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But missile

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The kit itself just feels underwhelming

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Itā€™s not really

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Bad

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Itā€™s just meh

main path
cyan peak
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Honestly ace is the worst mythic AGAIN

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What was the point of reworking him

vestal spruce
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The whole point of intercept is to stop a play

cyan peak
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Missile was a good change

vestal spruce
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Nitwit

brave coral
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Yeah but thatā€™s RIGHT after they release it

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And most of the time you arenā€™t in their face when they do it

main path
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brother

brave coral
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Cuz they do it half court off the bat

main path
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it stopped the move

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thats called blocking it

brave coral
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Be realistic

main path
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it has

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and ive done it

cyan peak
main path
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multiple times

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lol

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its even easier with blink

brave coral
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Limited style thatā€™s never going to be released ever again

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Iā€™ll get that rq

main path
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sky leap is right there

brave coral
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Itā€™s really situational if you block it with that

cyan peak
main path
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its not situational when ive pulled it off countless times

brave coral
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Ur literally right infront of him

main path
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im in front of him because its just a demonstration

brave coral
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And if lock has counterplay it isnā€™t broken

main path
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i could do it from even farther

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this gotta be ragebait atp

brave coral
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It is

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It forces u to only shoot

cyan peak
main path
brave coral
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How do you counter it when it grabs the ball that you shot that was 2 feet away from the rim and shoots it in their goal

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How

cyan peak
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Itā€™s an investment

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Speed

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I spun my animalistic for sprinter

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As well

brave coral
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It canā€™t be blocked when itā€™s in the air

cyan peak
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Iā€™m serious

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Speed

main path
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speed

cyan peak
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No

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But itā€™s fun

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And fast

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Not 2 my knowledge

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I do know

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That animalistic makes you jump higher

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šŸ‘

brave coral
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So ur gonna tell me the counterplay to lazy worker when he steals your shot

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Or what

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Oh wait I forgot he can steal passes and score aswell

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Because you know ur wrong and you stay close minded

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Tell me the counterplay to that

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Lmk

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Lmkkkk

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Whatā€™s the counterplay stop ducking

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LOL

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WHATS THE COUNTERPLAY LMK

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whatā€™s the counterplay when lazy worker steals your shot or pass and makes it in his own rim

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Lmk

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So thereā€™s no counterplay

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Exactly

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Youā€™re complaining about lock when lazy worker can do what lock does but better

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While lazy worker has no counterplay but thereā€™s multiple ways to counter lock

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Thanks for proving my point

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I just told you

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Lock has counterplay

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Itā€™s ez to counter

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Prove me wrong

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As soon as I ask a question you duck

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Hmmm

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Stop hiding behind other peoples arguments

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You can never make ur own

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Tell me how is lock op when itā€™s ez to counter

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Tell me

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Yes it is

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Jackpofv

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Snatch block

golden pilot
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ez

brave coral
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Emp

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Ur making up situational things

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ā€œWhat if he missesā€

main path
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emp doesnt intercept passes

brave coral
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Like what

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How is that an argument

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This isnā€™t an argument btw

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Jackpot still counters lock

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Sure emp doesnā€™t counter lock

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Now letā€™s address ur claims

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Ur saying

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ā€œWhat if jp isnā€™t thereā€

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ā€œWhat if giant missesā€

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Like what???

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You donā€™t have to do that

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And lock uses his ability fast

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Since they spam it on passes

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Itā€™s literally a free steal lol

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And a score once you get the second move on the steal

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Is it a counter tho

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Yes or no

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Why would you do that when thereā€™s a lock

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Sure I can understand the annoyance of having to save a move for another move

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But if you can literally stop lock from making a play

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Why wouldnā€™t you do that

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Also star leap

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Takes the ball

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So can you admit thereā€™s counterplay

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Whether you have to save an ability or not

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Is it counterplay

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Silence

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Oddā€¦

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Bros acting like people donā€™t save their abilities for other abilities anywayā€¦

rotund rampart
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you did what he asked

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and it still ain't enough

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''yeah but it's right as they release it'' he still countered trap

main path
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thats how blocks work

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šŸ˜­

rotund rampart
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BOOO!!!!

brave coral
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Ok but when I say thereā€™s obvious counters to lock

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Itā€™s an issue

true nexus
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I cant even see what you replied to, It says the messages were deleted lmao.

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Lock absolutely has counterplay. Is it annoying? Yes. Is it hard to work around? Not particularly.

brave coral
weary kraken
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Delete lock from the game end of the story.

brave coral
weary kraken
brave coral
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I donā€™t even use lock Iā€™m just not stupid and know how to counter it

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Sorry

weary kraken
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i don't have problem with lock

acoustic wind
weary kraken
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Just delete it and end all argument

brave coral
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Thereā€™s 1000 offensive abilities and ways to score

weary kraken
acoustic wind
weary kraken
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Already react long time ago

acoustic wind
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ah okay

true nexus
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Jesus H christ.

weary kraken
brave coral
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I donā€™t think your opinion on anything is valid

weary kraken
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Still an opinion

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"get good at the game first" are not

brave coral
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Ok and I replied with the same level stupidity your opinion was

weary kraken
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Jesus Christ okay bro?

brave coral
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Ok so shut up

weary kraken
spring basalt
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bump

fading pagoda
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Last match I tp to the enemy's half šŸ’€ with lock

thick breach
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Yeah and having unblockable passes ruin the point of defending šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø

exotic cobalt
exotic cobalt
main path
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it doesnt ruin defense as a whole

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you still have shots to block

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normal passes to intercept

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rebounds

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as for playmaking

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ALL your options are shut down just because of one move

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you just be talking just to talk dawg

rotund rampart
exotic cobalt
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Bump

spring basalt
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man was standing still so he would pass to himsellf

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i just teleported and took the ball from him

fading pagoda
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I intercept so many passes it's not even fun anymore T^T

silk bridge
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using intercept is boring, timing hands up from close range and predicting when theyā€™re about to pass or shoot is way more fun

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except when a teammate is behind them and they snatch the ball while Iā€™m in the animation ā€¦ā€¦.

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chrollo put the iframes on hands up NOT on intercept

worldly forge
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The fact it doesn't end after you block

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And another thing

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it doesn't stun opponent

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Pretty useless move

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tbh

silk bridge
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i can block the ball and nab it, but because I canā€™t dribble in hands up, the ballā€™s stolen from me anyways

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the time you have it up should be a lot shorter

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and it should def cancel after blocking a shot/pass ā€” itā€™s horrible that it doesnā€™t

warm depot
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#1398307085179158792
Skippable add rq

silk bridge
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also ADDDDD THIS

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the chase down is metal

warm depot
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Add more speed to it tbh

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It looks like you wanna dap someone up

silk bridge
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if it could give me lockdown zone speed while on defensive, thatā€™d be a big help

warm depot
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On your own court speed buff

silk bridge
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the style claims to have great defense (which it does), but that defense boils down to being really good at intercepting passes and thatā€™s it

silk bridge
warm depot
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Yes

silk bridge
warm depot
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Lock Rework when

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Better question
Chuck Rework when

silk bridge
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give me this plus that chase down idea instead of the anchor dash and Iā€™ll be a happy camper

silk bridge
viral oak
worldly forge
warm depot
silk bridge
worldly forge
lavish dragon
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nerf lock

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Please

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a 100% steal and a move where it stops you from shooting/passing

silk bridge
pale canopy
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i understand the intercept

silk bridge
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main lock and giant in ranked

pale canopy
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BUT complaining abt hands up is criminal

worldly forge
silk bridge
lavish dragon
pale canopy
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vro

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ive never seen anyone defend properly with hands up

worldly forge
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literally worst move in the game rn

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I can't imagine a worse move than that

high kraken
pale canopy
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its too situational

worldly forge
pale canopy
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it should be self cancellable

high kraken
brave coral
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Fr and when they use hands up just u can either dribble away or just use an ability to blow by them

high kraken
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u either predict a shot/pass or use it after u get fainted

worldly forge
pale canopy
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or u make hands up an ability where u cant get stunned

high kraken
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its not

pale canopy
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vro

high kraken
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just have a fetch on ur team and its ur ball every time

worldly forge
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It doesn't cancel after you land it and on top of that it doesn't stun the opponent bruh

high kraken
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iframes on intercept is a good buff for casual but it made the style banned in comp

high kraken
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cos its literally a aoe block

pale canopy
high kraken
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plus if u wanted iframes u could just jump tech

pale canopy
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id prefer first option

high kraken
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and have iframes regardless

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before the buff

pale canopy
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the iframes are def getting removed

high kraken
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  • if u steal a iframe pass u already have iframes
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i really hope they remove the innate iframes from intercept

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so it gets comp unbanned

pale canopy
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ye

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lets hope chrollo listens to our prayers

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cuz who knows

cosmic salmon
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please rework/nerf it its really outdated considering all these new flashy animations

pale canopy
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personally idc about the effects

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i care about the gameplay

high kraken
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the style is literally fine

pale canopy
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and lock is not good (too op) gameplay wise rn

worldly forge
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I feel like jackpot still gonna be the top 1 style unless these styles that shot from full court on base

pale canopy
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if lock doesnt get nerfed

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ima crash out

high kraken
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jp is just a balanced style

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currently the only thing that counters lock is jp

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the iframes really gotta go

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if they make intercept pass faster or smth thats fine

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but the iframes GOTTA go

pale canopy
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so ye

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iframes needa dip

high kraken
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i mean the nba rules make it fair

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u can use everything only on ur half

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+no iframe glitches

pale canopy
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never heard abt it before

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atleast in bbz

high kraken
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90% of teams play with nba rules

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are u na or eu?

silk bridge
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and those are just ZONES

pale canopy
high kraken
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alr

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ill shoot u dm

pale canopy
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qight

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aight

silk bridge
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increased dribble speed or god forbid a 4th dribble absolutely shut down the move if the player knows that theyā€™re doing

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even still, hands up is slow enough where they can just dribble randomly or directly away for a pass

high kraken
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hands up being weak

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is literally the definition

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of a skill issue

silk bridge
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it has its uses ā€” that being putting it up point blank when theyā€™re low on stamina

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but for its intended purpose?

high kraken
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i find hands up more useful than intercept in half of the scrims against good teams that i played

silk bridge
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it BLOWS

high kraken
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not be able to pass or shoot

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u can either predict a pass

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or zone them from doing anything

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if u have a jp its a free steal

silk bridge
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and itā€™s mostly because where the ball ends up after blocking and the fact the players still locked in the move afterwards

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sure you can auto block, but not being able to do anything with it after is horrible

high kraken
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the enemy gets stunlocked the same ammount as if u blocked normally

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u can still get the ball

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or if u have a fetch

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the ball is 100% urs

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the style itself is not weak

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infact

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its too broken rn with the intercept iframes

pale canopy
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i can smell that nerf incomin

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g

high kraken
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i hope so

pale canopy
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if that doesnt happen

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then idk what theyre doing

silk bridge
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Intercept is inherently cracked

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hands up is NOT useless, itā€™s just limited in what it can do and could be helped out by a small range or speed increase

pale canopy
silk bridge
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thatā€™s all it needs

pale canopy
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or it stopping after block

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thats all

silk bridge
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little buffs are just 5.99 bonuses

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the fact it cannot cancel is the main part that makes it underpowered

pale canopy
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ye

silk bridge
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itā€™s WAYYYY too committal

pale canopy
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it screwed me over so often

silk bridge
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use hands up, block the ball, go to grab the ball ā€¦ realize Iā€™m still in hands up and CANNOT dribble and get it stolen anyways

high kraken
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real

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js make hands up self cancallable

pale canopy
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ye

high kraken
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and REMOVE THE IFRAMES

pale canopy
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thats ALL

silk bridge
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it sets up a wall, sure, but a wall thatā€™s easily walked over by players who are good or just through simple teamwork

silk bridge
pale canopy
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anyway

silk bridge
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i main lock and that was NOT needed

pale canopy
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ima dip

high kraken
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especially in comp

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where gold is meta rn

silk bridge
high kraken
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skill issue then

silk bridge
high kraken
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pressure wasnt even good

silk bridge
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even still itā€™s easily one of the best or THE best playmaking styles in the game

high kraken
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its the best

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play making style

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100%

silk bridge
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fr

wooden hatch
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0 lock nerf šŸ¤©

pale canopy
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wait what

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THE IFRAMES ARE STILL THERE???

silk bridge
thick breach
main path
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it intercepting normal passes isnt a problem

thick breach
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Huh

main path
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the fact that it shuts down playmaking styles as a whole is everyones complaint

thick breach
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Ik

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I don't like it

main path
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people just want it to not be able to intercept ability passes

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but retain its iframes

peak garden
thick breach
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But if unblockable passes are in the game, not via moves, it's the only way to stop them

peak garden
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Its literally the only class capable of consistently stopping passes any sort

worn nymph
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Loffi stop talking to him heā€™s a filthy rage baiter

thick breach
peak garden
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It doesnt have any op shot stopping skills

thick breach
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No he's not gng

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šŸ˜­

peak garden
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Nor any offensive abilities

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So stopping passes of any should be the least it can do for a full defensive style

thick breach
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Itsyoboi spitting tho

main path
peak garden
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But I do have a problem of iframe on intercept

thick breach
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Giant so cool

peak garden
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Its not as easy with giant

thick breach
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I say giants better

main path
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ive never had difficulties doing it w giant

thick breach
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Shoots and passes

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Shots

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...

main path
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lock really shouldnt be able to intercept ability passes

peak garden
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With intercept you can just spam

thick breach
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Going band for band rn

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So what's yall opinion on switcher

main path
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its mediocre

thick breach
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Agreed

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Bump down to mythic

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Can't really buff him or he'd be op

main path
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its like

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a high legendary at best

thick breach
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The switch is pretty good

main path
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its a really niche "playmaking" style

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it just has a worse version of charge

thick breach
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Yk that's kinda exactly what it is

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You just made me realize how mid it really is

peak garden
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Ngl the switch skill could be op

thick breach
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Could

peak garden
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You can make some insane plays with it

thick breach
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But can't swap through I frames holds it back imo

main path
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it sounds good on paper

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just on paper

thick breach
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Exactly

peak garden
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But it sits the same as kuroko which it heavily relies on teamates

main path
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in practical use it sucks

thick breach
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If they're playing man to man it doesn't matter

thick breach
main path
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the awakening is budget bbg awakening im ngl

thick breach
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You ain't wrong

peak garden
thick breach
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Lwk buff the style

peak garden
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Lock cant counter switcher

thick breach
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True but it's not a pass it's a swap but I see your point

main path
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every time i see a phantom main

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i feel bad

thick breach
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šŸ˜­

main path
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because my homie plays lock

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and the phantom cant even do anything

pale canopy
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btw

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did they nerf the intercept?

main path
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even if there wasnt a lock

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no

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lol

pale canopy
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NAH

peak garden
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They need to get rid of the iframes lol

pale canopy
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dude

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what r the devs doing???

main path
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they also gotta make the move

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not janky

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because theres been instances where

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i sky leap the pass from intercept

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and it just spazzes back

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and goes to the opps teammate anyway

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it sucks

pale canopy
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i swear ima crash out

thick breach
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If I'm being honest there's a lot of bugs they still need to fix from like 2 updates ago

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Like passes just flopping

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shots going through the net and not counting

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Etc

main path
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the ball in general is bugged

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because sometimes

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when you pass or shoot

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theres a split second where it teleports to a random spot

rotund rampart
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It's so stupid

exotic cobalt
fading pagoda
exotic cobalt
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Oof

exotic cobalt
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https://feedback.playcurrent.com/t/lock-buff-is-not-needed-please-revert-it/201?u=iloveuiplr00

Current. Feedback
Lock buff is not needed. Please revert it

In what world is this fine? An iframe intercept that works on all passes. Shutting down all types of playmaking. Well sure ā€œpump fake passes to a very near personā€ but that is not a reason to not revert the buff lock. Gold, phantom and ult pass from emp is now useless you hear me. The passes on their kit are useless. I didnā€™t include jp cu...

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Bump

spring basalt
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bump

vague python
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Bump

wooden hatch
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bump

high kraken
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now if its laggy or u have low/high ping depending on who passed the ball