BBZ Concept: Smoke and Grapple | Basketball: Zero | Page 1

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 2:50 AM

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waiting

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:33 PM

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iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:48 PM

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safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 6:49 PM

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what’s batman gonna do to me if he finds out i stole a piece of gum from a convenience store

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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hes gonna handle you with care and tell you to refund it and if you resist at all hes gonna run you over with his batmobile

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 6:55 PM

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iron flax hes gonna handle you with care and tell you to refund it and if you resist at al...

oh no

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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spent way too long on this icl

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chrollos gonna reject this on the toilet

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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iron flax spent way too long on this icl

can i be honest abt this?

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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yeah be fr

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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i dont think batman’s gonna work in bbz

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im srry😭

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maybe someone like nightwing if u wanna do someone from dc

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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just him as a character or like the moves?

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 6:58 PM

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iron flax just him as a character or like the moves?

him as a character

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 6:58 PM

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i tried to make him fit in somehow but idk how unclesam fits in either

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i mean ive seen creative ideas like that before so i just thought batman would be pretty cool 🤷

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like perfect cell

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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iron flax i tried to make him fit in somehow but idk how unclesam fits in either

uncle sam for 4th july ig 😭

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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cause i mean he summoned a whole cannon in basketball so i thought batman would fit in

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i was thinking making a sasuke or itachi type of character but i just instead said batman

safe relic Jul 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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iron flax i was thinking making a sasuke or itachi type of character but i just instead sa...

maybe robin?

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if u wanna go for a batfamily character

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:02 PM

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trying to make the character fit my skillset

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:02 PM

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I think the name being vigilante would be better, they'd prob have to anyway

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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make the name vigilante instead of batman?

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should i js scrap the entire concept

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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iron flax should i js scrap the entire concept

Nah the moves were good imo

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Like all suggestions would need playtesting tho

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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iron flax make the name vigilante instead of batman?

But yeah

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I dont think they could call it batman

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If they couldn't even bring back perfection xd

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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thats why it got removed??

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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iron flax thats why it got removed??

Not removed

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Its why its not coming back

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Dbz legal issues

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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i was just trying to find a skillset that was unique cause i noticed there were some repeats in new styles

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unclesam basically just has a worse snipe and lazyworker has aces athletic fade

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but worse

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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iron flax unclesam basically just has a worse snipe and lazyworker has aces athletic fade

Yeah ima be fr those 2 stykes just seemed like knockoff sniper and ace

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Im hoping the next one cooks like chrollo says it will

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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i hope at least my skillset could be brought to attention tho

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maybe not the character just tryna fit the theme with my user

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:06 PM

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iron flax i hope at least my skillset could be brought to attention tho

But i honestly rlly liked the move trap other than the buggy mess

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:06 PM

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iron flax maybe not the character just tryna fit the theme with my user

Yeah grapple would be the 1st 1 2 pass

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I like the idea of grapple animation showing and being able to either pull it back or not

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:06 PM

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u think smokescreen is good?

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i think the idea of hiding dribbles is cool

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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So you can also use it as a normal pass that enemies might think you'll bring back

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Wait is it just hiding the fact that they're dribbling? Not their position on the court?

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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maybe i could just rewrite the concept as a custom like his name would just be smoke and he'd be based off of like snake or something instead of the very obvious batman theme

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it hides that their dribbling so it just looks like theyre running with the ball

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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iron flax maybe i could just rewrite the concept as a custom like his name would just be s...

Smoke would be cool

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Could also be like an epic or smth

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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iron flax it hides that their dribbling so it just looks like theyre running with the ball

Yeah thats good

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Hear me out

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Manyyy suggestions have beeb

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Adding mirages

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Or smth to do with mirages

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Make an epic style called smoke with the smokescreen idea and some mirages

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Make it simple but fun

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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i saw another concept with like the clone idea

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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Boom cook

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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i wanted to use that but im not trying to copy nobody

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i'll try reworking my character then maybe just a custom guy not based off of anyone

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BBZ Concept: Smoke

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:48 PM

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@iron flax love the change but plz dont make it mythic xd

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We do not need more

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Give some love to epic fr

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:48 PM

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im trying to split them into 2 bc only miracles get 2 movesets

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idk it feels too good to be epic

timber kayak Jul 16, 2025, 7:56 PM

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iron flax idk it feels too good to be epic

Make it miracle then

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Just not mythic plz xd

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Also

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Epic can be good just keep it simple

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I feel like smoke doesnt need to be complicated

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah i'm trying to do another character tho

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i'll make smoke epic

hollow valley Jul 16, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Ankle breaker animation reworks? Making the player sit or kneel for example

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 7:58 PM

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im trying to make a character with a hesi

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move

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bc i dont like that the only pump fake is having to stay still

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 8:30 PM

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finally updated the names and movesets

iron flax Jul 16, 2025, 8:50 PM

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BBZ Concept: Smoke and Grapple

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 3:24 AM

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Grapple moveset and awakening move

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Grapple awakening (camera pans up to dark for eyes)

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Smoke moveset

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Smoke awakening move

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iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 3:41 AM

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iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:29 AM

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copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:31 AM

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iron flax Grapple moveset and awakening move

ooo w visuals

neat bison Jul 17, 2025, 5:32 AM

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Ref the opp is tryna make me breathe carbon dioxide🔥🔥

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:33 AM

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copper cedar ooo w visuals

was just looking at your stuff i was abt to comment too ur hard diffing me 😔

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:33 AM

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lol

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:33 AM

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dunno how you come up with so many ideas

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:34 AM

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i just try to think “what seems like it would fit perfectly in the game”

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:34 AM

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no glaze tho

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can't seem to be the same for me

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i have a couple more but idek how u got their attention

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how many ideas have u made

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:35 AM

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15

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:35 AM

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oh thats all of them?

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:35 AM

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yuh

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:35 AM

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no glaze but ur doing good asf

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to even get sum out of ur suggestions

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:36 AM

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im just glad that i got recognized by chrollo for the mythic style poll

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:36 AM

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which one was it

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:36 AM

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rose

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:36 AM

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nvm

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im stupid

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:36 AM

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lol

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:37 AM

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he approved but didnt do nothing with it?

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:38 AM

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cus lazy worker won the poll

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:39 AM

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only top concepts make the poll right?

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asking dum asf questions icl im mad slow i spent like way too long drawing

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:41 AM

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iron flax only top concepts make the poll right?

got no idea

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cus idk who made speedster

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:41 AM

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does he just be grabbing random styles at random times and just throws out a poll

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:42 AM

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he only did 1 poll ever but im gonna assume he’ll do more in the future

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:44 AM

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ur one of the first ig i rlly hope he does do more cause why even add suggestions if ur not gonna listen

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im js gonna keep making random stuff and hope it goes somewhere

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do u have any feedback?

copper cedar Jul 17, 2025, 5:47 AM

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uh

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definitely like the fact u make drawings

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i usually only have the attention span to look at those rather than read tbh 😭

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 5:49 AM

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thats fine i usually be skipping through allat too if u dont got nothing to say you dont got nothing to say

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might just add like 3 word senteces in all my drawings

iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 6:18 PM

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iron flax Jul 17, 2025, 6:37 PM

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God this is going nowhere 🥀

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