Nerf lock

[north ember]

😅

[blissful thicket]

Lwky

[lilac steeple]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1394914819093696514

[blissful thicket]

I don't know what I should have as my 3 zone

[north ember]

I saw that and tbh not a bad idea

Hmm

What u got

[blissful thicket]

777 and animalistic

777 for jp and cc and animalistic for sniper and giant

[north ember]

What about emp vision it ain't that bad

[blissful thicket]

Kinda is

[north ember]

Fr?

[blissful thicket]

Arguably

[blissful thicket]

Essentially just contested

[north ember]

Ohhh

Alrrrr

Oh yeah forgot

I noticed how long i haven't played on that acc

That used to be alot to me now it looks little😭

[blissful thicket]

Loll

[north ember]

Tbh I like how kagami and kuroko have a special move fr

It can't be blocked unless a teammate steps in the way

😭

[blissful thicket]

Wdym

[north ember]

Well yk how star and phantom have a move together

Sprint + bullet pass

Well if a teammate steps in front of the pass before using the pass then when u use it the teammate catches it and ruins the move

😋

[blissful thicket]

Tbh the chemical reaction sucks

Essentially just passing the ball around

[vale kernel]

They’ve been nerfed gold vision

Glad I got it while spinning

Just don’t know who to pair it with

[outer terrace]

Agreed, but personally, just nerf the one where it catches passes so it doesn’t work on unblockable passes

[native geode]

only pass who should bypass Lock Cath – Uncle Sam and Kuroko (Phantom)

Kuroko because his pass it's fastest pass (with long startup)

Uncle Sam because it's slowest pass, and he uses cannon

[self downvote]

[native geode]

Gold (nesh) are slow enough

[flat locust]

That literally ruins locks whole purpose

[native geode]

yeah

so – no Lock nefs

he defender fo reason

[flat locust]

Thats like saying lock is a defensive style except for these 3 styles

Do you realize how dumb that sounds

[native geode]

the only who are defender doing smth more than just auto blocking/stealing

[flat locust]

Lock should be defensive for all styles

Not just some

Also keep in mind

Aomine was able to literally stop one of kurokos passes like intercept in the anime

And he ain't even defensive style

[native geode]

Can Catch pass + Have special block (can block unblocable things, fits the defending)

while others defenders are – Tatlis (delete him), Kagami (it's high jump), Murasakibara (Another jump)

[native geode]

forgot , is there another defenders/ defense moves ?

[flat locust]

Defense style focused?

No

[native geode]

cutch useless most of times (only against fake-pump)

[winter onyx]

It a problem with all passing style

[native geode]

mm

[native geode]

Phantom (Kuroko) – Lock need spam, grant be closer to person

Gold (Nesh) – they fast

And others passes are slow, but uncle Sam slowest (Long animation and slow bal)

[winter onyx]

Even if the pass is fast. Lock can still intercept 💔

[native geode]

Lock awk was right, no one cares about defending

[blissful thicket]

Anyone

[pulsar dawn]

THATS WHAT I LOVE IT 🗣️🗣️ 💯‼️ ‼️

[fresh panther]

Nerf the hands up man when using an Ability pass it shouldn't intercept except normal passes itself

[pulsar dawn]

you mean intercept?

hands up doesnt block ability passes if im correct

[fresh panther]

It can I did the Canon pass and somehow it have been block

[pulsar dawn]

dang

that sucks

i know it doesnt work on phantom bullet

[fresh panther]

It doesn't work on phantom bullet but somehow the Canon pass can be block? Wow.. Chrollo needs something to do with this Canon pass as well

[native geode]

btw
(Mythicals gets 2 ults, so Uncle Sam it's legendary)

[pulsar dawn]

they pass differently

[fresh panther]

Dang..

[pulsar dawn]

for canon pass you can stand right infront of it to take the ball even if the uncle sam didnt select you to pass to

bullet pass you cannot

[fresh panther]

Somehow the miracle had only one ult ability except one is not a cutscene

Now I regret spinning Tatlis off

[native geode]

non cutscene counts as a ult too

like Nesh dunk/fake drive

[blissful thicket]

And stolen

By JP and clutch

Well clutch idk about

[fresh panther]

I guess I am suggesting this one to have him another ult ability

[pulsar dawn]

would be awesome

and an off ball ability in his base

[native geode]

volley goal with star shot from someone pass

[brisk sequoia]

Hands up used to be arguably one of the worst abilities in the game, the recent buff was definetely needed.

And

Defensive styles are supposed to be annoying

Some Offensive styles would be impossible to counter otherwise

[blissful thicket]

Jp isn't annoying

[flat locust]

It does but you can't pick the ball up for like 3 seconds after so the guy can just simply get it back

[barren rivet]

Nobody uses this style bro

Its absolutely horrible

[brisk sequoia]

They should make it so that a succesful hands up block gets u the ball immediately so ur hands up actually does jack instead of an enemy player getting it.

[kindred iris]

they have mains

loyal and annoying to deal with

[blissful thicket]

Bump

[lilac steeple]

Yesss lock buff

Ezzzz

Ez kid

[crude flicker]

lock buff

i love

the devs

[lilac steeple]

Well deserved buff

[strong abyss]

Now it has iframes

Great

[pulsar dawn]

this is awesome but lock is not balanced around this change so lock is probably gonna get nerfed next week

[winter onyx]

Oh shorter window to steal. Awesome might as well say it iframe cuz I tried stealing immediately after passing and I went through the lock hitbox. ✨

LOL i went public and uh yea my steal completely went through the lock animation.

Just so yk lock animation is the part where it used to have no iframe meaning now it has complete iframe

After that animation they can pass

I think jp might do smth about ut

But I wanna use gold

Hate y'all lock users smh

[modern mesa]

Get close to them

Since both passes stun on use

[winter onyx]

Doesn't work bro

[winter onyx]

It doesn't stun the lock user

That how iframe works

[steep patio]

get better blud

[winter onyx]

Also he would intercepted the ball a little later after pass

Meaning the stun would been gone

[winter onyx]

Saying that with no counter point is nothing lol but sure

[modern mesa]

???

Dude

[winter onyx]

I do acknowledge that I suck but I literally went through the lock and it didn't steal

[winter onyx]

Why else would you say use gold pass when I'm talking about lock

[steep patio]

lock is a normal style, he has long cooldowns so without his intercept hes just as bad as an epic or rare

[modern mesa]

You said you want to use gold

Get close to the lock

Then if you pass infront of them

[winter onyx]

Uhm yk if I wanted to pass closely

I would have use pump fake pass

Ofc unless there's a jp nearby

Other than that pump fake pass would have been a better choice and save my pass for smth else

I also wanted to bait the lock with normal pass so he waste the cd

But I realize now he has iframe

You do know before buff lock can be stolen due to no iframe in the animation? Now it has. What does this mean? Unless I'm reading it wrong

"cannot be stolen in the animation anymore" what comes after animation? They pass

Don't get me wrong..I love to be proven wrong so I can counter lock

[modern mesa]

Ok so

[winter onyx]

But I just don't see it anymore lol

[modern mesa]

Pump fake pass just doesn’t counter lock

At all

[winter onyx]

If your close like very close I think 🤔

Lock doesn't activate

[modern mesa]

And the only reason the passes counter is because they stun if they’re close

That’s just how you have to play against lock

[winter onyx]

Huh how

[modern mesa]

If the gold is close when passing it stuns people infront of him

[winter onyx]

Uh I could try and test it rn and see if it affects the new lock

Brb

But even if it gets stun

Can I even steal it?

It has iframe remember?

[steep patio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789741228139872279/1196738419955617792/caption.gif

[modern mesa]

You can only counter locks intercept with jackpot now

Or another lock

There’s no counter play

Other than passing close

[winter onyx]

I can't make passing play now

Mannnn

[fresh panther]

Dude I hate it now they freaking buff this thing

It's so unnecessary

[winter onyx]

Hate lock users. I might even hate you more than tatlis users

[simple arch]

now yes

[simple arch]

yee

[fresh panther]

Everyone will use lock..

[winter onyx]

What about now????

The amount of hate I have is insane

The one thing I enjoy in bbz and the one thing I can do is playmaking

Now it gone

Well done devs

Pat yourself on the back

Now the lock user are gonna defend this with their lives on the line

"pass closer"

Nenenenen

🤓

I can hear it coming

[woeful lichen]

?

[winter onyx]

I will now use jp. Make all the lock user cry

[woeful lichen]

I agree that lock needs less range on intercept

But its iframes should stay

[winter onyx]

Ok your my opps

[simple arch]

even if be as close as only possible it will steal the vall from u and pass😭🙏

[fresh panther]

Also cannot intercept with Pass ability

[simple arch]

nah

[winter onyx]

Another one who thinks it ok to have iframes

[fresh panther]

Not me I am not ok with that freaking thinf

[woeful lichen]

Why lol

[woeful lichen]

??

[winter onyx]

Nah make it intercept iframe pass

I allow that

That fine

Iframe pass need a new counter anyway

But having iframe after intercepting it is insane

[winter onyx]

Did you not read?

Even if the lock range got nerf

All they gotta do is mark the playmaker

Like how you mark a sniper

And make them useless

Atp delete the playmaker style

C'mon now. Bring up the braindead excuses

[woeful lichen]

what

I'm multitasking rn

[winter onyx]

Lol

[fresh panther]

What is the buff for playmaker?

[simple arch]

lock need to get one more ability in ult and make it mythic now

[woeful lichen]

Whats wrong with playmaker?

[woeful lichen]

nutmeg now works the way it was always supposed to

and lock works the way it was always supposed to

[winter onyx]

Mb "playmaking" style

Basically support styles

[molten crag]

Guys what does pmo mean??

[woeful lichen]

Oh I see

[spark wadi]

Lowkey i might take back this X

[winter onyx]

Do you see the issues with iframe?

[woeful lichen]

So this person is complaining that people who try to pass long range get countered by Lock

[winter onyx]

There's a reason why people want emp reach nerf right??

[winter onyx]

Any passing play

[woeful lichen]

Yeah just reduce the range of intercept

[winter onyx]

Omds

This guy did not read but ig your multitasking

[woeful lichen]

What do you propose, then?

[winter onyx]

@woeful lichen this is my counter point to your nerf

[woeful lichen]

Because saying that the iframes on intercept should get removed just makes Intercept useless

[winter onyx]

It not

If you use intercept on a long paas

Pass

You tp far away from them

Is that not enough?

[simple arch]

its need to be useless its legendary

[winter onyx]

Nahh

[woeful lichen]

But if you're marking someone and you don't want them to get the pass, then you need the iframes

[winter onyx]

Just make it when they do a long pass. Make lock tp far away

[woeful lichen]

Lock is supposed to lock people in a box labeled "don't try to play"

[winter onyx]

So it is harder to steal it

[winter onyx]

Yk how it says score

[woeful lichen]

I don't want to set up specific situations just because people can steal the ball back after i intercept

[winter onyx]

But it stop pass

Funny

[devout dove]

Sounds like a personal problem icl 🙏

[winter onyx]

Ok but you think it fine to shut down playmaking?

[molten crag]

It shouldn’t block pass moves just normal passing

[winter onyx]

If you can't even play lock without iframe. Genuinely skill issues

[woeful lichen]

It's called "lock"

[winter onyx]

Ofc you wouldn't know cuz y'all don't do playmaking

[woeful lichen]

"if you can't use a move that has 2 seconds of endlag without getting stolen from, that's a skill issue"

[winter onyx]

Ok so yes you think it fine to shut down any playmaking

[woeful lichen]

I do

I set up plays with lock all the time

[winter onyx]

Passing plays

[molten crag]

He’s rage baiting u

[winter onyx]

Like I said. It tps far if it catches a long pass

[woeful lichen]

I think there should be a range limit, not a iframe nerf

[devout dove]

WE, ALL, LOVE LOCK❤️

[winter onyx]

NO

[molten crag]

Just u

[winter onyx]

I will use jp

[devout dove]

ME and YOU

[winter onyx]

It would still be a problem for playmaking passes but sure go ahead.

[woeful lichen]

okay

[winter onyx]

I will make intercept useless with jp

[woeful lichen]

YES

[molten crag]

Gold playmaker jp and many more

[winter onyx]

Yk lock can just mark playmaking people right?

The range nerf will do nothing

[woeful lichen]

well I don't want iframes gone either

[winter onyx]

Everyone gonna do the pump fake and pass closely

[woeful lichen]

unless you have a better idea

[winter onyx]

Well I don't want playmaking pass gone too

[molten crag]

They shouldn’t be there imo

[winter onyx]

Jp will be the only support style to survive lock

[molten crag]

Fr

[winter onyx]

Jp can just bait by passing and just use steal

And the best part is when you get lucky dash afterwards

✨

[molten crag]

Others don’t have that tho

[winter onyx]

Yes

Which is why I have to use jp

So I can enjoy playmaking

[molten crag]

Love that move

[lilac steeple]

Lock is him bro

[winter onyx]

Which is not a good thing at all lol

[devout dove]

Who got the best D🙏(lock)

[winter onyx]

Alr bro allat glazing

💀

[lilac steeple]

Lock has aura

[devout dove]

ME and YOU are riding it

[molten crag]

Nah just u my guy

[devout dove]

58 ❌ btw 💔

*57

[molten crag]

???

[devout dove]

What else could I possibly mean

[molten crag]

Wasn’t looking X doesn’t mean they riding lock💀💀

[winter onyx]

Lmao