STOP COMPLAING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT

[sterile arch]

Like except if he has 10 ping he need to predict it to block the pass

[empty atlas]

This games just luck based now

[bronze meadow]

its not like they're gonna be able to track your every movement

[sterile arch]

Yk if ur not predictable u can always pass freely

And will rarely get blocked

[bronze meadow]

thats how you get open irl

[dawn ridge]

bro never being guarded by 3 tatlis in 1 game

☠️

[sterile arch]

I was by 2

And that kinda a free goal

Just pass it to someone infront of u

Except if hr teammates sucks or below avg u can beat them

[severe fjord]

Huh?

I'm ngl your not making sense

I'm probably stupid

[sterile arch]

I am telling u what happens to me

[dawn ridge]

you cant pass easily if your teammates cant get open spot and youre being double teamed on by a tatlis

[proper mauve]

idk whats the move where they do shot then cancel and do a pass and yeah no one can do that on console

[split trench]

you in fwct can do it on console

[young meteor]

You can do that on console

[sterile arch]

Ye if hr teammate sucks thats kinda ggs like even chuck can beat u

[split trench]

ngl

[dawn ridge]

look tatlis guarantee steal move is alr broken

[severe fjord]

Man imma just say what I experience. The ball passing speed is not fast. So I can easily react to it. And it not hard to guard someone who has no mobility

[proper mauve]

i tried

[young meteor]

Brother what? Press your shoot trigger and then pass trigger after

It's not rocket science

[charred mountain]

they should just give us 2 cdes

[severe fjord]

Lol

[proper mauve]

did u do it ??

[young meteor]

Yes.

[split trench]

we are just less than one day into the update and its already this bad

how do yall think servers are gonna be after a few days?

[young meteor]

Hellfire.

[bronze meadow]

horrific

[charred mountain]

blr servers

[proper mauve]

gimme a sec

[bronze meadow]

they'll prolly get nerfed

once everbody is done spending their money

[severe fjord]

Uh more chollos and tat

[split trench]

this is a miro tier update bro

lmao

[dawn ridge]

you cant say “just pass the ball” while during that time you need a timing to make a decision while holding and dribbling the ball AND ALSO THE ONES GUARDING YOU HAVE TATLIS V MOVES READY

[bronze meadow]

this is worse

miro only dropped one at a time

[sterile arch]

No i am talking about pasing while guys are blocking u like if there are 2 on u and its a 3 vs 3 even if one is guarded u can pass it to the other one freely

[bronze meadow]

nel rin was bad but 2 is a whole lot worse

[severe fjord]

Tell that to the dude who told me. You can easily not get guarded

[sterile arch]

but whats so unbalanced is chrollo

[bronze meadow]

they both are

[sterile arch]

Like they score right after they get the ball with greem

[young meteor]

If you're a copycat you can predict and pass but a guaranteed steal shouldn't be in the game

[sterile arch]

Tatlis js op but its counterable

[severe fjord]

Why would there be 2 people on me? One is enough

Only a dumb person would sent 2 people to guard one person

[dawn ridge]

its not

[split trench]

the fact that this question is being asked is enough to let me know that this community is cooked to no end

[severe fjord]

Unless it at 3 pointer

[dawn ridge]

chrollos move still can be blocked even its kinda broken

[severe fjord]

His not asking tho

[young meteor]

Um... Read that again bossman

[severe fjord]

Should re read

[split trench]

oh my fault

[bronze meadow]

no they're saying chrollo is unbalanced and tatlis isnt

[split trench]

im groggy as hell rn

[bronze meadow]

which is just as bad ngl

[sterile arch]

Wee heres a tip if one guy on u and jr friends are blocked shoot the ball at there direction so the ball will go above the guard and get to ur teammate

[dawn ridge]

but guarantee steal is just pure braindead move

[split trench]

this is stupid

[sterile arch]

lol

[split trench]

both styles are busted

and deserve nerfs

[severe fjord]

So we thinking that the person guarding me suck at blocking someone?

[split trench]

end of story

[sterile arch]

Except in 2v2 it is

[young meteor]

"No options so let's shoot the ball that definitely won't get blocked"

[severe fjord]

Ikr

[dawn ridge]

boths broken

[sterile arch]

Here comes ur skill like shooting the ball is way better than blocking it so just learn phew tricks

[dawn ridge]

tatlis have broken defense and chrollos have broken offense but tatlis steal move is just pure braindead move

[sterile arch]

I am not trying to be cooky but i rarely get blocked when i do that

[severe fjord]

Idk what your saying anymore. You said shoot instead of pass cuz it higher and can't be intercepted but I said the person guarding me can block my shot

[dawn ridge]

you dont even need anytiming to do that

[young meteor]

You're playing scrubs

[severe fjord]

Cuz they suck

[slender pebble]

mustard

[stiff rover]

another code

[young meteor]

Gave us a code...

[sterile arch]

Champions 3 suck?

[young meteor]

Ggs

[split trench]

puddle aoe move that stuns no matter what on and off the ball

dribble move that leaves a puddle aoe like the first move and stuns

half court dash that guarantees steal

this needs nerfs no matter how you look at it

[queen walrus]

Apparently so

[sterile arch]

💀

[stiff rover]

Only sane people would say this

[severe fjord]

Apparently cuz they can't block a simple shot?

[proper mauve]

i think u didn't understand me one week ago i see sm1 jump then pass i think but no one was on his team so the ball gets away then return the ball to his hands

[severe fjord]

That a big

Big

Bug

[sterile arch]

I dont just stand infront of them and shoot it as i said shooting the balll without being block needs some skills

[severe fjord]

Apparently they fixed it already

[split trench]

its radius is 1/3rd of the court

[sterile arch]

If u can do that no style can really stop u

[young meteor]

Creator dribble stuns from Saudi Arabia it's actually so unfun

[proper mauve]

he said that he thinks it only work on mobile

[severe fjord]

Oh wow so here's a trick. Do you know you can like block while moving forward?

[severe fjord]

If doesn't matter if you dribble away from him and shoot

The windup is long enough to recover

[dawn ridge]

my guy went from california to german with 1 move

[severe fjord]

And block

[split trench]

is this dude defending the styles

[severe fjord]

Tatlis

[split trench]

🫩

yikes

[proper mauve]

ok how abt the variant i intended to add

[severe fjord]

He saying just pass

[tidal wave]

both styles are completely over powered

[severe fjord]

So lemme tell u what he told me. Apparently he says that you can easily pass to someone without it getting intercepted and his answer is shoot

[stiff rover]

Basketball god never got this much love

[split trench]

im pretty sure you shouldve ignored him after this

[severe fjord]

He thinks the person guarding him cannot block

[split trench]

dumbest take oat

[young meteor]

Met someone that said "snap is reactable just pass" my heart shattered

[severe fjord]

He also said there's skillz or ways to shoot without being blocked

[elder mirage]

rage bait of doom

[junior mica]

I have chrollo style and ts is unbalanced you’ve gotta be slow to think this in anyway shape or form matches rhe game

[stiff rover]

pay kopo no mind, he's a top tier ragebaiter

[severe fjord]

So talented. Insane reaction speed ngl

[severe fjord]

He actually sound so genuine. So skilled as a rahebaiter

Ragebaiter

[elder mirage]

isnt snap like frame 4 or sum

[mighty heart]

Chrollo is so broken

[severe fjord]

Idk 😐

[mighty heart]

It’s ruining the game

[dawn ridge]

its predictable not reactable

[severe fjord]

Ye

"just pass bro"

💔

[dawn ridge]

tell you what

[severe fjord]

Yay code drop

Imma get nothing

[dawn ridge]

what if tatlis gets a buff his V move has shorter cooldown and longer ranges and his awk stun people for 10 seconds

[split trench]

please do chrollo

[neat marsh]

If Tatlis gets a buff I swear im hopping on basketball legends

[split trench]

nfl

ngl

just quit the game while youre at it

[queen walrus]

Gonna hop on ubg ranked after months I swear

[split trench]

this is barely a day into the update and its already this bad

imagine this in a few days

unplayable

[dawn ridge]

not even a day and the majority of the server have chrollos

☠️ ☠️

[severe fjord]

Yayyyy

[neat marsh]

Ong, I have chrollo and Its not half as broken as Tatlis, no character needs to have a guaranteed steal, and a guaranteed ankle breaker with and without ball

[dawn ridge]

both is broken as hell

[severe fjord]

Both are pretty dam broken

[novel cove]

#1385756452131438662 IF YALL SPENT A LOT OF LUCKY SPINS AND DIDNT GET A LIMITED GO BOOST MY SUGGESTION SO CHROLLO CAN SEE IT! help me out to pumb this suggestion I really need yall we are at 199 reactions!

[stray scarab]

cool

[severe fjord]

Y'all we are cooked

[elder mirage]

hmmm yes sniper awakening in base + ace dribble but stuns and is faster ?

[severe fjord]

People are saying "yay I got chrollo"

They are increasing

[neat marsh]

It's not guaranteed and can easily be blocked

[dawn ridge]

look i better 1 v 2 a legendary user than having to 1v1 a tatlis or chrollos

[severe fjord]

And it not happening to me

[severe fjord]

Chrollo?

Easily?

[split trench]

mind you the stun radius for the dribble is 1/3RD OF THE COURTS WIDTH

[severe fjord]

I don't wanna yap no more man

[wicked knot]

fr

[neat marsh]

Yah, It's not hard to block their Green! If youre close enough

[dawn ridge]

my boy chrollos creator dribbles went from australia to canada

[severe fjord]

If your close enough

[split trench]

that should be obvious

[elder mirage]

they legit use it off spawn LOL

[severe fjord]

Why go close when you can full court baby!!!

[split trench]

the problem is that its available to use

ANYWHERE

at 65%

over 50%

[elder mirage]

also the half court one is legit unreactable and u NEED to predict

[severe fjord]

Let goooo

[severe fjord]

My boi. Here's a certificate for being smort

👏

[dawn ridge]

i mean he got a point tho

if the user is stupid enough

[sterile arch]

ye i can tell u guys dont know how to shoot

[dawn ridge]

to use a green move infront of people

[severe fjord]

Ig so

[severe fjord]

👏 huh

[severe fjord]

Do enlightened us

[split trench]

pack it up

[severe fjord]

I wanna know a way to shoot without being blocked

[split trench]

just pack it up man

[severe fjord]

If it fadeaway. I Will smack u

[dawn ridge]

nuh uh

[stiff rover]

i can tell you're giggling behind the screen for how much rage baits you induce from your messages

[sterile arch]

Play the game learn the mechanics and some tricks and congrats

[neat marsh]

Try pumpfaking

[dawn ridge]

fr

[dawn ridge]

oh so thats well how?

[sterile arch]

At this point saying hi consider rage baiting

[junior mica]

The issue is the far range ones have no startup, so either you guard them full court and press block randomly and hope you predicted jt properly. Not to mention theres a chance they just do the dribble move instead

[tepid radish]

Just do better iwl

[severe fjord]

You don't know the context but anyway talking about getting guarded by a tatlis

[dawn ridge]

bet u use chrollos also

smh

[tepid radish]

Pass

[severe fjord]

Soooo you don't know how and making stuff up. Alr got it

[neat marsh]

Ah myf

[severe fjord]

Read up. I'm tried of saying the same thing

[dawn ridge]

it will work if your team is good enough to make an open space and the tstlis is giving you enough time to make a decision

[severe fjord]

Do y'all not know teammate exists?

[dawn ridge]

passing is not that easy dawg

[sterile arch]

Ngl guys best styles are chrollo and tatlis but tatlis in defense can be blocked in offense snap is not dribble is if r team has 2 or more users awk they both are insane anything else u dont have the right to say its unbalanced

[queen walrus]

Regular pass is easily blocked

[tepid radish]

Are we talking about public lobbies or scrims 😭

[dawn ridge]

public lobbies ofc

[sterile arch]

whatever u say buddy what ever u say

[dawn ridge]

another ragebait

[tepid radish]

Oh nah u cant beat a Tatlis in a public half the people are challanged

[severe fjord]

What else other than normal shoot. Pump fake shoot and fadeaway?

No seriously

[tepid radish]

Not really

[dawn ridge]

yeah i faced 3 chrollos and 2 tatlis in a public single game

[queen walrus]

Yes(?)

[dawn ridge]

guess what

[queen walrus]

what

[split trench]

both styles need a nerf in every move

end of story

[sterile arch]

ur either didnt get lucky or just another bronze

[dawn ridge]

i ogt humiliated by them

[tepid radish]

It’s not hard to pass without being blocked

Just use ur last dribble to change momentum and pass

It’s not that deep

[dawn ridge]

i have tatlis and i do consider it is broken

[queen walrus]

If you do a pump you get stolen by tatlis

[sterile arch]

Well facing 5 of them is ggs traight up

[young meteor]

Remove Chrollo force pass btw

[tepid radish]

Don’t pump

[tepid radish]

Fr

[queen walrus]

still an instant block

[sterile arch]

Thats it

[queen walrus]

😭

[severe fjord]

Uh I wanna ask. If I press jump and steal at the same time? Would it becomes a forward block

[dawn ridge]

and u prob a guy who got lucky getting chrollos and love glazing and protecting the style

[neat marsh]

I've had a Tatlis user brick and use snap to make me and my teammate go down, Bro needs Hella nerfs😭😭

[tepid radish]

Not enough

[severe fjord]

So which of the 3 makes it unblockable?

[elder mirage]

yes it gets more range

[sterile arch]

No i am genuinely saying chrollo green need a nerf

[split trench]

all of them do

[sterile arch]

but dribble maybe make it one not two parts

[severe fjord]

Oh well doesn't mean it can't get intercept

[dawn ridge]

i have tatlis but i really want it to get nerfed

[tepid radish]

You guys are just pickups warriors

😭

The game isn’t hard

[sterile arch]

most of the time fadeaways but sometimes fakes as well

[severe fjord]

Ngl I use it and for some reason it doesn't block. The hitbox is so weird

[dawn ridge]

sometimes the games also have a bluetooth blocking system

[severe fjord]

So your using pump fake on a tat. Awesome 👍

[split trench]

every single move

[untold furnace]

With all the new limited styles locks defense abilities kinda just don’t matter anymore

[dawn ridge]

so yeah

[tepid radish]

As far as I’m concerned I don’t have the same issues as you guys are talking about

[elder mirage]

whenever i do it the ball is legit in the air like 2 avatars above me and i block it somehow

[tepid radish]

So it seems like a skill issue

[split trench]

cool

both styles still need nerfs

[severe fjord]

Awesome

I already know I got skill issues

[tepid radish]

Then just practice

[queen walrus]

cuz you may be playing in scrub lobbies if you don’t get insta blocked after dribbling 3 times

💔

[severe fjord]

Lol

[tepid radish]

It’s lowkey not hard 🙏

[split trench]

ngl

do not care

[queen walrus]

Both styles still need nerfs either way

[tepid radish]

I play in scrims and I don’t get blocked calm down

[split trench]

these styles still need nerfs

every move minimum

[queen walrus]

That doesn’t change anything apparently

[tepid radish]

2 forward dribbles then one dribble left right or back and pass

Cause people are stupid

[severe fjord]

I'm ngl I met people who can block fadeaway. You still think it smart?

[tepid radish]

And they just continue going back

[severe fjord]

Atp just do a pump fake pass

Cannot be blocked

[tepid radish]

It can be stolen?

[severe fjord]

But with tat in this game

[queen walrus]

M2M

but okay

[elder mirage]

many things counter pumpfake in the game

[severe fjord]

Not for a few seconds until they can bypass aka tat

But if your spending time trying to outmobe someone with dribble

[split trench]

i cant believe people genuinely think that these are totally fine styles

this is why this game keeps getting worse

[tepid radish]

Ngl from what I’m seeing most of this conversation is “I’m bad how do I not get blocked on all my passes”

[severe fjord]

Bro my discord keep dying

[tepid radish]

They lowkey arent but the devs don’t wanna nerf them

[severe fjord]

Anyway if your trying to outdribble someone and do a pass so they can't block. Try doing it on a tat lol

That the point of the topic

[vast skiff]

Honestly, they’re very easy to counter

[sweet bear]

Chrollo is literally turn based game

[vast skiff]

I js don’t see why everyone’s complaining.

[split trench]

pack it up

[tepid radish]

Fr 😭

[split trench]

f tier ragebait

[severe fjord]

How so

[wicked knot]

??

[queen walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/yujiro-hanma-baki-cooking-esquizofrenia-gif-10183314646088788512

[wicked knot]

this gotte nbe ragebait

[vast skiff]

Like, Tatlis auto steal is as easy to counter as just passing the ball

[severe fjord]

Think a bit further

C'mon

[stiff rover]

we found @sterile arch alt guys

[vast skiff]

And Chrollo can by any defence style in the game

[severe fjord]

Do we have teammate?

[tepid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[severe fjord]

So we have our teammate spawning at chrollo user side now?

Awesome

Good day ragebaiter

[split trench]

the point is that

both styles need nerfs

every move

end of story

[wicked knot]

let's say your teammate is being marked? what now

[vast skiff]

If your argument is that he has a half court shot, then so does Sniper

[wicked knot]

yeah

[severe fjord]

"oh just shoot at your teammate and it can't be blocked"

[split trench]

easily blockable btw

[shell sparrow]

Since emperor there is no hope we gonna have atleast 1 update where we can actually enjoy this game without those op ahh braindead styles.. And who even balances these styles?

[tepid radish]

All the styles are counterable just extremely different ways

[severe fjord]

Sir chrollo shot is full court

[wicked knot]

😂

[tepid radish]

Chrollo is just pray and guard him tight

[split trench]

all styles are counterable sure although i do not care nerf them

[severe fjord]

He says fadeaway

[vast skiff]

Who tf is moving back to their own hoop when it’s easier to hit half court

[tepid radish]

Tatlis is pass

[severe fjord]

Every chrollo user cuz it more than a 5050

[wicked knot]

chrollo can do a full count and sniper is easily blockable

[severe fjord]

And it actually works

[split trench]

the point is there shouldnt be moves that function like these for any damn style

[severe fjord]

I saw someone do it 10 times and all manage to in the hoop

[vast skiff]

Chrollo isn’t hard to block?

[lapis tulip]

If an ace does this it's quite easy to predict where they will go

[severe fjord]

Can't block if they are in their own court the moment it their turn for the ball

That why we say chrollo is a turn base ahh style

[wicked knot]

at the start

how am i suppose to block that

[split trench]

who cares

[severe fjord]

You don't 💀

[split trench]

both styles need nerfs

[vast skiff]

? By blocking them when they get the ball?

[wicked knot]

Yo

[lapis tulip]

If they miss its a counterattack so

[wicked knot]

YO

LOOOLL

BAHHAAHAH

[stiff rover]

sure, go tp to them

[wintry gull]

the devs litro said these styles would be op just disable them in ranked and kaboom

[severe fjord]

I really want to. Omg

[severe fjord]

Sure I wanna see you instant tp to their side

[wicked knot]

mr "illiterate"

[quasi sparrow]

How you supposed to do that when they do it on pass in lmfao dumb ahh ahh motherf***

[severe fjord]

Hey now he can't understand you

[cursive willow]

Chrollo fr is out of his mind

[vast skiff]

Either wait until the invisible wall goes away or use a movement ability? Why are yall allergic to use your skills

[elfin linden]

tbh the people that have the style and abuse it would be complaining about it and asking for a nerf of they didn't get it

[severe fjord]

Don't go too hard on the poor dude

[wicked knot]

i know that's why i said he is illiterate

[wicked knot]

oh mb

[shell sparrow]

I haven't checked ranked but you can use those braindead styles even in ranked?!

[cursive willow]

Style is so braindead yall removed pressure because its "braindead" just look at what they added

[split trench]

ngl we shoulda known with emperor that the dude is lowkey mentally insane

[vast skiff]

Then use a defence style 😭

[severe fjord]

Ik that why I add onto that sentence

[sweet bear]

please send a clip of u blocking it from someone doing itfull court

[wintry gull]

yes thats why im saying all they gotta do is disable them in ranked and its fine

[cobalt swallow]

I don’t even know why I’m here

[severe fjord]

Lol

[vast skiff]

It’s quite easy when you have Giant tbh

[cursive willow]

Right whats the point of removing pressure adding global cd for emperor if they're going to add this bs?

[severe fjord]

Oh wow you have a chrollo user waiting for you to walk up and guard em? How awesome

[wicked knot]

ya

[shell sparrow]

Ain't happening anytime soon why am I even saying anytime soon if it's obvious that it will never gonna happen

[severe fjord]

But too bad the moment it their turn for the ball. The ball goes into the hoop while your on the opposite side

[cursive willow]

Not gonna lie this is going to kill the game

[wintry gull]

im guessing ur talking abt green? green is just a normal shot but shot from range all u gotta do is be infront and block

[vast skiff]

What style u using?

[severe fjord]

Bud there's no style that makes you go to them in less than a second

[wicked knot]

chill just ignore the ragebaiter smh

[vast skiff]

Ace, Speed, Flash

[wicked knot]

let them talk to themself

[severe fjord]

Not enough

LMAO

[quasi sparrow]

I shouldn’t be stuck to a specific style I should be able to play who I want the f***

[shell sparrow]

Ace 😭

[severe fjord]

I don't think he understands what we mean by full court

[lethal remnant]

you can go half court in like a single move and shoot from your court to the enemy's court

[lapis tulip]

Fr flash wouldn't get close

[lethal remnant]

with chrollo

[severe fjord]

Ikr

[lapis tulip]

Even ace is to slow

[lethal remnant]

and this is me with chrollo style its so completely out of wack

[severe fjord]

Even if you have the distance of ace dribble too as well. It slow

Even pre nerf ace drive won't be enough

[lapis tulip]

U can literally shoot from under your basket u ain't blocking that

[severe fjord]

You spawn opposite of the chrollo

[lapis tulip]

from the start I mean like tip off

[severe fjord]

He gets ball cuz they get a free pass

He shoots

[severe fjord]

It basically every round when they get the ball

[lapis tulip]

Yea

[vast skiff]

Complaining abt specific style counters is crazy. That’s literally a core game mechanic

[sweet bear]

u cant when the game is just starting tho, someone underneath their own basket is not reachable before they use it

[vast skiff]

Jackpot’s awk has a perfect counter

[severe fjord]

Wow a ult to counter chrollo base

So smart

[lapis tulip]

Yea 1 counter to move that can be used multiple times wohoo

[severe fjord]

Guys give him a clap of applause

[fickle tangle]

look what they need to stop base chrollo

[severe fjord]

So do y'all have a secret style that makes you spawn at the same area as the chrollo user or??

[lapis tulip]

👏

[severe fjord]

So smart

Deserve the certificate of a genius

[wicked knot]

just use cheats!

[severe fjord]

👏

I can't bro

[lapis tulip]

Nah I say that dude didn't know u ment from start

[severe fjord]

Actually can't

[fickle tangle]

lowk they should unnerf perfection since chrollo's awak counters it perfectly

[severe fjord]

Fair enough

[stiff rover]

buffing basketball god also works

[lapis tulip]

Send me ur cheats😭

[severe fjord]

Bro can you believe it. The dude actually genuinely thinks he can block a full court shoot

He said use ace to catch up

[lapis tulip]

Lol

[arctic raptor]

full court shot, faster than sniper

thats not fun or engaging to fight against 😭

[shell sparrow]

I mean ye cuz no hope there will not be a single new style that won't gonna have a single button and boom you scored

[stiff rover]

if you use green immediately after getting the ball, the ace cannot catch up

[severe fjord]

The guy thinks he can

[hot escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-2024300603359468440

[lapis tulip]

Fr😭

[hot escarp]

323?

THATS A WORLD RECOED

[proper mauve]

can yall bump this i need a few to get 100 :DDD https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1385713399945625690

[lapis tulip]

What is

[lethal remnant]

who thought this was balanced?

[severe fjord]

Lol

[lethal remnant]

more than a 50% chance you will land this

[severe fjord]

Idk

[hot escarp]

THAT IS LIKE 5× THE AMONT OF DISLIKES THAT THE PREVIOUS HOLDER OF THE TITLE HAD

[lapis tulip]

Lol

[severe fjord]

The guy who thought you can block that ig?

[hot escarp]

Bro I'm at aw at how bad this suggestion is

[severe fjord]

Lol

[quasi sparrow]

The thing is when one style counters pretty much every style that’s where I have an issue I could care less if gold (which I play and was completely gutted) was hard countered by chrollo and that was 1 of like 2 hard counters chrollo had towards other styles it’s the fact that playing most other styles will get you dominated

[hot escarp]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1385769719969087542
Genuinely worthy of thr number 1 spot

[severe fjord]

Bro even giant can't counter chrollo

Don't waste your time

[lapis tulip]

I'm struggle with tatlis more the steal move just bypasses dribbles and moves🤣

Makes u sit too lol

[severe fjord]

It gold but better

[lapis tulip]

It's an upgraded pressure where u keep the ball

[wicked knot]

sadly i don't used them

[wicked knot]

😂

[quasi sparrow]

OFC GIANT COUNTERS HIM ITS A DEFENSE CHARACTER WITH instant block from wherever on the court 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what type of point were you trying to make

[severe fjord]

@vast skiff lemme set up the example. Your team score and it the other team turn yes? The person immediately pass to chrollo and he shoots. In less than 1-2 sec after you spawn (keep in mind you can only move after they pass) you basically have 1s to get to chrollo and block. No style let's you do that

[quasi sparrow]

Your kinda silly bro

[severe fjord]

You cannot counter if you just spawn and the ball went flying

[lapis tulip]

From the start pass. And then he shoots from his own basket that's his point

Giant has high range but not that high

[vast skiff]

Okay, they score a SINGLE 3 pointer, then what? You’re not losing, and you can easily still stay in the lead if you get the next 2 points

[severe fjord]

Is that not the same for every move? "Ok so what? The emp stop your shoot or pass." You can easily score again

[lapis tulip]

First good point u made.
Untill tatlis steals the ball

[wicked knot]

isn't your point is that you can block chrollo shots easily?

[severe fjord]

"the tat stole your ball mid move. So what? You can score or dribble again"

[errant grail]

Then a tatlis comes in with 3 stuns and 3 3 pointers 🥀

[quasi sparrow]

If your going to say giant counters then say giant doesn’t counter what’s the point of saying it to begin with 🤣🤣 it can’t counter a full court shot yes but half court and so on it can (but I also don’t want this misconstrued as me defending chrollos style im not I hate it)

[errant grail]

then the chrollo uses his double dribble full court and scores another easy 3 pointer

[limpid hearth]

The infinite stuns of doom

[vast skiff]

Tatlis’ steal is literally as easy to counter as passing the ball, or actually using a movement ability

[severe fjord]

Ye and I said full court no? Ofc giant can catch any shoot but my point is yk the full court

[limpid hearth]

The stuns are why I think Tatlis is stronger than Chrollo

[lapis tulip]

Have u played against him he steals ball mid move

[severe fjord]

Movement ability? Like?

[wicked knot]

marked teammates???

[vast skiff]

Athletic drive for one

[quasi sparrow]

But I was saying nothing could counter that to begin with your the one who said anything about counters brooo😭🤣🤣🤣😭😭

[errant grail]

A good enemy duo will just
Chrollo Green
Tatlis Stun
Tatlis Stun
Chrollo Dribble
Tatlis stun
Repeat

[severe fjord]

He can steal from that lop

[quasi sparrow]

I’m deada** confused

[lapis tulip]

Nope

[limpid hearth]

Yes the death combo of death

[vast skiff]

You’re not gonna wait for him to use it 😭

[dusky otter]

these styles are op are these kids okay?

[severe fjord]

😭

[dusky otter]

anyone who doesnt think this style is op dm me

[errant grail]

We ain’t ever scorin 😭

[severe fjord]

I use it and he use it. Ball get stolen. If tat is Infront of you he can see where your gonna go and just use it

[dusky otter]

onb tatlis is actually decent balanced but chrollo is straight braindead

[vast skiff]

Then pass the ball 😭

[errant grail]

Put a team of 5 Emps against 3 Chrollo’s and 2 Tats and they get curbstomped (the Emp’s)

[vast skiff]

This isn’t rocket science

[limpid hearth]

How is Tatlis decently balanced??

[severe fjord]

Also if his near you. Your dribble is not gonna outspeed instantly. Which you would say "pass" lemme remind you we have teammate getting guarded

[limpid hearth]

The stuns of death

[errant grail]

And have my teammate immediately get hit with the power of a semi truck from a Tatlis 🥀

[quiet island]

Tatlis is a defence

[dusky otter]

dm me

[severe fjord]

Pov your teammate is getting guarded and is not open ✨

[limpid hearth]

Why would I do that

[lapis tulip]

Very good on offence too

[severe fjord]

So smart

[errant grail]

ATP the ONLY thing you can do is probably Emp dribble stun the Tatlis

And then what

[severe fjord]

Yep any stun move

[errant grail]

He still has his 3 moves after you score

And you got reach

[vast skiff]

You can either have the ball get stolen 100%, or pass the ball and hope your teammate gets it

[limpid hearth]

Yeah he’s an all rounder tbh. He can stun defenders and the person who has the ball.

[vast skiff]

Either way, the second option is better

[lethal remnant]

tatlis has an auto stun that is undodgable unless you are away from his general character

[errant grail]

Only to get blocked by aSECOND Tatlis 😭

[lethal remnant]

he has like 5 steals in his awakening

its insane

[severe fjord]

So smart ic lmao

[lapis tulip]

He can also stun while he has the ball with snap for easy 3 gtg

[limpid hearth]

Pretty much removes blocking and stealing from the game

[severe fjord]

🔥

[hot escarp]

Ragebait used to be believable

[errant grail]

ATP just make it so there can only be one Tatlis and Chrollo a game and it has to be diff teams

[severe fjord]

He doesn't know the context. It fine

[dusky otter]

tatlis is first balanced because the stun is a little aoe, and it has a 60 second cd, the 2nd move is pretty good tho, chrollo on the otherhand has snipers awakening, and stars base

[lethal remnant]

I think star leap is the only way you can counter Chrollo's "Green" move

[quasi sparrow]

Dawg nooooo I don’t want to be known as the chrollo rage baiter please I beg

[lethal remnant]

tatlis has 2 steals, both are relatively undodgable and stun ANYONE around his radius not just the person he uses it on

[hot escarp]

Not even. The arc is so high and the shot itself comes out so quickly that star just doesn't work

[limpid hearth]

Tatlis has no counter play though

[lethal remnant]

dont get me started on his awakening you cant even dodge half the bull he does

[errant grail]

I’ve used 128 ls with no Chrollo or Tatlis atp

[hot escarp]

The startup is too slow to actually block it

[errant grail]

The only way to counter a Tatlis is by using Tatlis 😭

[limpid hearth]

I used the stones to destroy the stones

[errant grail]

If you can’t beat them join them

[magic rain]

emperor ?

[hot escarp]

My g the cd is irrelevant when you have 2 on the same team

[dusky otter]

chrollo is an easy counter play to tatlis, the auto shoot move on chrollo bypasses tatlis paintbrush steal move, and the stun move is easy to avoid 😭

[limpid hearth]

Immovable force vs an unstoppable object

[hot escarp]

Tatlis is genuinely more toxic and stronger then chrollo

[magic rain]

if gold pressure exist its gonna beat tatlis style badly

[severe fjord]

"oh chrollo? Green can be blocked. In the end. it ends up " so? It just 3 point." So smart
next for the steal "just pass and pray it reaches" so smart once again

[errant grail]

What’s emperor gonna do 😭

[quasi sparrow]

I promise you I have literally been saying they are op and shouldn’t be in the game to begin withhh literally all of last night was spent looking through these channels pretty talking shi about this dumb ahh ahh game that used to be good

[dusky otter]

def not irrelevant with only 2 on the team and if u think chrollo is worse than tatlis base ur smoking LOL

[severe fjord]

@errant grail clap for him y'all 🙌

[magic rain]

it literally counter pass and shoot

[errant grail]

pressure
ally gets ball
Tatlis just lunges at them with V

[vast skiff]

You’re acting like your teammates are guarded 100% of the time. Yall are only complaining cuz ur allergic to passing

[severe fjord]

Yes bro yes

[limpid hearth]

It’s not that easy. Even if you can avoid his stuns that puts you away from him and that’s not very good especially if Tatlis is on offense

[severe fjord]

Guarded 100% of the time

[magic rain]

its not that bad

[hot escarp]

Oh i didn't recognise your game bro

[errant grail]

We’re talking about Tatlis

[severe fjord]

What do you think my teammates are doing?

Eating Mm

???

[limpid hearth]

The stun puddle stays there for awhile and you can’t really block or steal while it’s active

[magic rain]

tatlis style is passing type style

[lethal remnant]

Chrollo has no abilities that proactively help the team when he doesnt have the ball

tatlis isnt locked to being on the ball like chrollo is

his mode is also worse.

[magic rain]

just gatekeep them

[errant grail]

Bro can just stun AoE for 5 seconds

[hot escarp]

My g please tell me how do you avoid the steal? The answer is that you can't

[errant grail]

You can’t defend him

[lethal remnant]

1 goal block isnt really doing much when tatlis has 5 steals

[hot escarp]

Exactly

[dusky otter]

u can with the chrollo dash move 😭

[limpid hearth]

Not really. He can do anything

[errant grail]

He gets ready to shoot and you try Reach? Tough luck, he uses C when you get close

[young rapids]

On a less serious note, I keep getting Tatlis bro. I'm gettin everything BUT Emperor, I just wanna have fun with my Akashi fit bro 💔

[severe fjord]

Buddy when your opp have the ball. Your job is to guard someone who is free

[errant grail]

You just successfully used reach? Tough luck, he uses V and grabs the ball

[lethal remnant]

the only way you AVOID tatlis stealing the ball after a puddle smackdown is a chrollo user uses his force pass on you

why do we need another limited

to counter a limited

[dusky otter]

chrollos base > tatlis base , tatlis mode > chrollo mode, and this mode point is irrelevant u dont get mode 90% of the time 🤣

[severe fjord]

So yes your teammates would be guarded 100% of the time unless you lose the ball

[lethal remnant]

chrollo's base is not better than tatlis base

[hot escarp]

Not even all you need is to wait untill the dribble ends and just take the ball since you are never out of its range

[limpid hearth]

And that’s really quick timing too

[dusky otter]

why did we need unbalanced limiteds in the first place?

[lethal remnant]

you are lying out your mouth

[dusky otter]

yes it is 🤣

[dusky otter]

sniper awakening as a base move with 80% of going in, and a dash move that takes u across the map thats unguardable

[lethal remnant]

see you are the only person in this chat with this opinion

[severe fjord]

@vast skiff do you even play the game or are you one of the randos who don't know how to guard and blindly chase someone who have the ball when his already guarded

[dusky otter]

no ur just dumb

honestly

[errant grail]

3 guaranteed steals vs a full court shot that might go in 😭

[young rapids]

... 💔

[dusky otter]

what 3 guaranteed steals

tatlis has 2 moves dummy

in base

🤣

[errant grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kartierbardi-gif-25764198

[limber nimbus]

[proper mauve]

lol

[lethal remnant]

tatlis also just gets free 3 pointers without rng just

[errant grail]

I found the ragebaiter

[lethal remnant]

by puddling before he shoots

ig

[limpid hearth]

Those are both guaranteed steals

[hot escarp]

Okay bro nice ragebait sesh

[dusky otter]

not if ur versing a chrollo

🤣

the dash move on chrollo bypasses the paintbrush steal btw

dk how u guys dont know this

[lethal remnant]

negated by good positioning

[limpid hearth]

So?

[errant grail]

Just wait for dash to end then use V gg

Thing has like infinite range 💀

[limpid hearth]

Just like use your brain

[dusky otter]

nope it just bypasses 100% join my private server we can test it

[dusky otter]

the dash takes u half way across the map, and the v has windup, and after the first part it takes another second to do the second part

watch the showcase before u start talking

[lethal remnant]

how does this prove my argument? if you are playing with a full team you arent 1v1ing just 1 tatlis user

[dusky otter]

💔

[lethal remnant]

you are playing against multiple

[dusky otter]

and not js 1 chrollo user?

so js pass it off and use the dash move again

💔

[lethal remnant]

the pass is blockable

[limpid hearth]

Tatlis has guaranteed 3s and guaranteed steals vro

[lethal remnant]

and just block the chrollo user

its not that hard

[dusky otter]

and the paintbrush is avoidable 💔

[dusky otter]

theres a shoot and tech pass

[errant grail]

First dash lets the Tatlis start going to the other side, second dash done? Awesome, try shooting. Tatlis comes in like Julian Loki and steals it midshot 😭

[limpid hearth]

He can literally stun the entire enemy team

[dusky otter]

unblockable if u time it right

[feral badger]

ragebait suggestion detected 🥀

[limpid hearth]

He can appear inside of you, stun you, and take the ball

[dusky otter]

yo join my private server and lets test this

to show how dumb you are

[limpid hearth]

3 times

[lethal remnant]

oh yeah tatlis doesnt even need to be anywhere near the ball the puddle he can just puddle some random person to block a pass for a free steal

[severe fjord]

But can be intercepted

[dusky otter]

in awakening

[limpid hearth]

Yeah.

[dusky otter]

yup but were talking about the styles not passes

[limpid hearth]

Tatlis’ base and AWK solos Chrollo

[dusky otter]

yeah my argument is that u dont have awakening popped 90% of the time mid games

on a 5v5 theres 10 people

u have a 10% chance of awakening

and theres only like 3 awakenings per game

[limpid hearth]

Though if you wanted to ask who was cooler that’s definitely going to Chrollo

[dusky otter]

chrollo base > tatlis base tatlis awk > chrollo awk

[dusky otter]

yo dm me so u can join my private server

lets test this

😭

[limpid hearth]

Actually if you’re Tatlis you’re most likely doing a lot which means you have a higher chance of awakening

[dusky otter]

what are u talking bout

🤣

[errant grail]

Also like
What’s gonna happen?
Chrollo’s Dribble for a score
Tatlis gets the ball and stuns the Chrollo when he gets close with paint (or better yet scores normally)
Chrollo gets the ball, then what? He gets blocked by brush or the paint move if the Tatlis didn’t use it yet for a guaranteed steal
Then Chrollo gets the ball again, and then Tatlis uses his other move assuming he had both

[limpid hearth]

Tatlis is good at getting the ball

[dusky otter]

join my private server bro

[limpid hearth]

And he can stun anyone who tries to block him

[dusky otter]

so?

[lethal remnant]

what are you talking about, this game operates on a "ace" system

[limpid hearth]

So he gets a lot of points

[dusky otter]

like what its still the same awakening chance

are u dumb

[lethal remnant]

if you have more total points you have a greater chance of getting awakening

I thought this was like

[limpid hearth]

Idk if you know this but you get a higher chance of AWK if you are doing good on your team

[lethal remnant]

basic knowledge?

[limpid hearth]

😔🙏💔

[errant grail]

The mvp on either side of the team will almost always get the first Awk

🤷‍♂️

[severe fjord]

Oh really? No wonder it doesn't feel like 10%

[lethal remnant]

how do none of yall know this

[dusky otter]

are u dumb

[limpid hearth]

I thought this was common knowledge

[lethal remnant]

its the same system BLR runs on

[severe fjord]

Maybe cuz no one told me

[dusky otter]

tatlis is not primarly focused on offense while chrollo is

[charred mountain]

mugen releasing and chrollo abaondoing this game

[dusky otter]

why would a chrollo not get awakening instead

idiot

[limpid hearth]

TATLIS CAN DO BOTH

[errant grail]

Tatlis can easily be used offensively

[severe fjord]

Same for blr. Genuinely no one told me about how the awk system works

[lethal remnant]

mugen is hot garbo in terms of combat

[dusky otter]

💔

[limpid hearth]

TATLIS STUNS DEFENDERS SO THEY CAN’T STOP HIM

[dusky otter]

yeah no where as well as chrollo

[limpid hearth]

AND HE CAN GET THE BALL EASILY

[dusky otter]

omg stunning defenders every 60 seconds

[lethal remnant]

it doesnt take a genius to figure it out after like a couple minutes of playing

[limpid hearth]

It’s simple

[errant grail]

Tatlis stuns anyone who gets close to him 🥀

[limpid hearth]

YEAH???

[dusky otter]

💔

[acoustic dove]

nerf chrollo dribble wth

entire court dash

[severe fjord]

Sorry but I'm genuinely stupid at stuff like these I just play

[faint crown]

bro people who lwk think this is balanced are rage baiting dont fall for it guys

[lethal remnant]

chrollo's dribble is 50 seconds its literally the same thing but one is counterable

[dusky otter]

10 seconds is a lot

both of tatlis moves is 60

🤣

[lethal remnant]

10 seconds is NOT alot

[dusky otter]

yes it is

are u dumb

[errant grail]

Kinda is ngl

[limpid hearth]

Chrollo can be countered. Tatlis can’t. Thats the simple difference.

[dusky otter]

10 second cooldown difference is a lot

🤣

[errant grail]

Also Chaos zone with the 10% reduced time 😭

[dusky otter]

ya

[acoustic dove]

how you gonna counter entire court dash while being stunned by the dash itself

[lethal remnant]

what does tatlis zone do I havent even looked at that

[young rapids]

I don't see Chrollo vs Tatlis is an argument tbh

A flash step that travels the entire map (hyperbole, but it feels like it), an absolute DIME, and a shot that will go in 65% of the time from FULL court.

Versus a guaranteed steal (that needs to be aimed), a not as far dribble move and a guaranteed steal/stun that only works when people are in the paint

[lethal remnant]

I have chaos zone

[dusky otter]

onb t ell them

🤣

[errant grail]

Most important one is the 10% reduced cooldown

[dusky otter]

the dash stuns and takes u full court

[errant grail]

I forgot the rest

[lethal remnant]

Chaos is chrollo's flow

[limpid hearth]

Ok so nobody does this but if you SEE Chrollo is on the enemy team you can stay at a good distance to block him if he dribbles across the entire court

[lethal remnant]

tatlis's flow is the paint one

[severe fjord]

How much sec is that. Did anyone find out?

[acoustic dove]

IT STUNNED BRO

[dusky otter]

the move stuns u automatically its emperor but 2x the distance

[dusky otter]

also if u stay at half court can js shoot it with the auto shoot move

[limpid hearth]

It stuns you if it goes past you yeah

[young rapids]

Pray he bricks the full court shot off of the pass-in because it has more than half a chance to go in

[errant grail]

I can’t even send a message

[young rapids]

💔

[dusky otter]

yea exactly so how are u gonna block him if when he gets close he can js dash

[limpid hearth]

Green is blockable and luck based.

[dusky otter]

💔

[dusky otter]

its 80% chance to go in

🤣

[limpid hearth]

Tatlis has no counter and no luck req though. Thats why he’s stronger.

[dusky otter]

but ur argument is waiting at half court for him u cant block him from half court away idiot

[lethal remnant]

80% percent from half court

its 65% from your own court

[acoustic dove]

also most of chrollo user will just use their Green move from their court and score, the chance of the ball for going in is too high

[dusky otter]

wow thats amazing

[limpid hearth]

My argument is Chrollo is counterable. Counter play does exist for him. Tatlis doesn’t have ANY counter play

[young rapids]

Crazy work

[dusky otter]

chrollo is counterable procceeds to provide no proof or arguments on why

[young rapids]

Chrollo IS Tatlis's counterplay

[dusky otter]

yeah bro ur real smart

🤓

[dusky otter]

onb

thank u bro

its like this kid has an extra zone

[limpid hearth]

🫩

[civic needle]

Well chrollo can just wait for starting ball and do full court and dribble up half court for easy dunk

[lethal remnant]

Chrollo and Tatlis has skewed this game's balance off its boots

[limpid hearth]

I literally did but ok!

[young rapids]

Chrollo's dribble can go through the steal moves bro and I wouldn't bet on using snap bc more often than not Chrollo users aint going to the paint to dunk

[lethal remnant]

the game has such little gimmicks that its hard to make anything unbalanced balanced without nerfing them to the ground

[young rapids]

They're taking the 3

[dusky otter]

the last 3 things u have said is chrollo has no counter play but tatlis does

💔

[acoustic dove]

they fumbled on this update

[dusky otter]

FR

THIS IS WHAT I SAID

AND THEY WOULDNT LISTEN

honestly idiots

[limpid hearth]

Idc if you can’t read man.

[lethal remnant]

chrollo's dribble is emperor's dribble on crack and then you thought basketball god's dunk was crazy? FREE 3 POINTERS

[limpid hearth]

Yes bro one move = total counter. Amazing.

[dusky otter]

u lost bro

ggs

[dusky otter]

goes through both steals, and takes u full court btw

so uh yea

[limpid hearth]

🫩

[dusky otter]

total counter

[lethal remnant]

both styles are annoying to go against if you dont have the style to counter em

[dusky otter]

not to mention the 80% chance of going in 💔

[errant grail]

What then after he uses the dribble? Tatlis still will have his two steals remaining, making Chrollo get completely denied after that initial dribble

[limpid hearth]

Get this guy gone

[severe fjord]

PLEASE

[dusky otter]

they counter eachother, but honestly chrollo* base is js better

[limpid hearth]

Brain dead holy

[acoustic dove]

fact, basketball god dunk isnt even that broken, still can be blocked and wont stun you on touch

[dusky otter]

braindead but u fail to provide any basic form of information on why tatlis is better?

[limpid hearth]

Chrollo’s base is only better if you are brain dead and can’t make good plays with Tatlis

[young rapids]

Then Chrollo uses his full court shot next play that literally has a 65% chance to go in

[severe fjord]

*from anywhere 😭

[young rapids]

There's no winning that you gotta pray

[dusky otter]

nope chrollos base is js better

see

[limpid hearth]

THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ENTIRE TIME 💔

[dusky otter]

fail to provide actual information

on why tatlis is better

[acoustic dove]

too high bro, id say make it 40/30 🥀💔

[limpid hearth]

That’s what you keep saying but I already did

[dusky otter]

U LITTERALY JS SAID TATLIS IS ONLY WORSE IF UR BRAINDEAD

ARE U DUMB

THAT IS NOT VALID

[limpid hearth]

Rage bait

[dusky otter]

🤣

[young rapids]

I'm saying

[limpid hearth]

I’m not gonna fall for your rage bait anymore bro 💔💔

[dusky otter]

js say u lost

[severe fjord]

@dusky otter I think the explanation is here

[acoustic dove]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[errant grail]

Chrollo Dribbles +3
Tatlis plays normally +3
Chrollo Full Courts +3
Tatlis plays normally +3
Chrollo gets ball, Tatlis steals +3
Chrollo gets ball, Tatlis steal +3

[severe fjord]

Ping him to it

[dusky otter]

so js use the shoot move from halfcourt

[limpid hearth]

Get a load of this guy

[limpid hearth]

He literally read it already I’m not doing ts

[severe fjord]

Lol

[errant grail]

12 pts vs 6 🥀

[acoustic dove]

chrollo dribble make tatlis steal stuck in place, idk why you guys saying tatlis is more broken than chrollo

[severe fjord]

Cuz I ping him. Your welcome

[limpid hearth]

Reading comprehension of doom

[dusky otter]

fr

[young rapids]

Your entire scenario is based on Tatlis playing normally which has more of a risk of turnovers than Chrollo just flash stepping and shootiing full courts

[dusky otter]

ur dumb LOL

[young meteor]

Both styles need nerfs

[dusky otter]

u lost

honestly

[acoustic dove]

agree

[severe fjord]

Ngl that me sometimes even tho I read over 509 books

[young rapids]

Because Chrollo is far more brain dead, Chrollo's style is ofc better UNLESS the Tatlis user is more skilled with their moves

[limpid hearth]

That’s terrible rage bait

[acoustic dove]

can we stop arguing and say that both style need to be nerfed

[dusky otter]

ok if u press me full court, i use the dash move and instantly beat u to the rim, u press me half court i use the green and its an 80% chance to go in, if my dash move counters both of ur steal moves what is ur counter play to that? im curious

[young rapids]

I'm assuming we are playing in a public server btw

[acoustic dove]

can we stop arguing and say that both style need to be nerfed

[limpid hearth]

Your previous rage bait was better lowkey

[young meteor]

Unless this is y'all idea of fun?

[dusky otter]

no u just have the iq of a donkey

🤣

biggest idiot ever

[young rapids]

They both really do it's not even funny fr

[severe fjord]

Wrong reply? I'm not part of the discussion your in

[limpid hearth]

Insults don’t actually rage bait me you have to say stupid things

[dusky otter]

@errant grail ok if u press me full court, i use the dash move and instantly beat u to the rim, u press me half court i use the green and its an 80% chance to go in, if my dash move counters both of ur steal moves what is ur counter play to that? im curious

[dusky otter]

ok if u press me full court, i use the dash move and instantly beat u to the rim, u press me half court i use the green and its an 80% chance to go in, if my dash move counters both of ur steal moves what is ur counter play to that? im curious

[errant grail]

Chrollo Flash Steps +3
Tatlis plays, assume ball gets stolen/blocked, uses steal +3
Chrollo Full Courts +3
Tatlis plays, assume ball gets stolen/blocked, uses steal +3

It’s literally still a tie then 6-6

[dusky otter]

no reply to mine, and tell me ur counterplay

[errant grail]

If a Tatlis can score normally without having to use his moves even once it’s a lead

[limpid hearth]

Green can be blocked yk. You’re better off taking the 65 on spawn

[faint crown]

can yall lwk just stop fighting this is dumb and clearly the devs fault for not testing these styles to see if its really balanced

[young meteor]

Why can't chrollo do that?

[dusky otter]

quickest release in the game, and very low chance to be blocked

[limpid hearth]

Yeah by using the brain

[pure elbow]

dude i own both tatlis and chrollo and i still dont have the iq of a freaking toddler and can tell you ts needs nerfs

[dusky otter]

wait do u have tatlis

[young rapids]

Again, you're assuming the Chrollo user can't also "play normally"

[dusky otter]

lets run it, and ill js show u how much better chrollo is

[sterile arch]

U dont just spam fadeaways obv and the ball get in I am just saying shooting in this game requires less skills than blocking

[dusky otter]

🤣

[young rapids]

That's why the scenario is flawed

[errant grail]

Chrollo tries playing normally, gets stolen by Tatlis’ moves

[limpid hearth]

I have both

[dusky otter]

dash counters both of tatlis base moves 💔

[dusky otter]

run it

[marsh comet]

no it doesn't

[severe fjord]

So if you don't spam fadeaway. What shoot do you do??

[errant grail]

Are you dense

I’m talking about after the dribble

[dusky otter]

yes it does

[limpid hearth]

🫩 I’m afking on BLR

[marsh comet]

snap stuns dev dribble

[errant grail]

Chrollo Flash Steps +3
Tatlis plays, assume ball gets stolen/blocked, uses steal +3
Chrollo Full Courts +3
Tatlis plays, assume ball gets stolen/blocked, uses steal +3

It’s literally still a tie then 6-6

[dusky otter]

dribble takes u half way across the court so how are u gonna catch up in time

[opal hinge]

Dead game

[marsh comet]

the only thing dribble counters is the paintbrush

[severe fjord]

Are they revamping Loki? Seems like the community wants that

[pseudo dew]

Bro

[limpid hearth]

Idk but they are reworking King

Finally

Again

[crisp pagoda]

Hopefully. King too, apparently. They're trying to "redeem" the game.

[severe fjord]

Ic again lmao

[dusky otter]

also tatlis is fully counterable w the second move because if u js shoot it off the wall before they dash at u, u can beat them to the ball, and score so this is completely stupid

[young rapids]

Chrollo playing normally would only get stripped by one of the moves more often realistically bc the other move is only reliable in the paint. Most users ain't gonna just run and dunk and snap is NOT this insanely relliable move unless someone actually goes to the paint

[dusky otter]

😭

[pseudo dew]

THEY ARE OP😭 why IS BRO CHUCKING FROM HALF COURT ,REFFF

[marsh comet]

taking ults into account makes tatlis even better because he has 5 steals

so that's +15

[severe fjord]

I mean if they actually listen..it won't be hard to redeem

[sterile arch]

Fade aways I am just saying I am not just braindead spamming it

[limpid hearth]

Honestly a lot of people have been saying Loki is too slow but that isn’t true at all.

[young meteor]

Don't take ults into account for a 1v1 scenario

[crisp pagoda]

Exactly. Make stronger styles harder to use, that's the recipe.

[sterile arch]

U can know depend on the distant between u and him if the fade is block able or not

[crisp pagoda]

That's what a lot of people's been saying.

[severe fjord]

So then what else do you do other than fadeaway? Cuz if your not using it to shoot to your teammates since pass get intercepted.

[limpid hearth]

That doesn’t make sense at all. Ults are inevitable

[crisp pagoda]

If they'd just do some tweaks, revert the maps (cause tbh its really shty rn)

[marsh comet]

i guess thats true but what he said still makes them even in a 1v1 regardless

[young rapids]

You need more brain cells to play with Tatlis, and it's not even guaranteed "snap." will be used a lot because it's reliant on certain conditions

[crisp pagoda]

the game would be so much better

[dusky otter]

shut up gng

[errant grail]

Bro goes half field with 1 move

[young rapids]

Chrollo's moves aren't

[dusky otter]

🤣

[crisp pagoda]

especially with professional techs

[limpid hearth]

I KNOW

[dusky otter]

thank u it seems like ur the only other one that has a brain here

[limpid hearth]

THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING

[young meteor]

If you get ult it's going to be one sided. It's basic logic

[errant grail]

Get close to enemy
Use snap
They’re stunned for 5s
Easy steal and counter
“Reliant on conditions”
????

[crisp pagoda]

I meant BLR. The beach map is fire.

[dusky otter]

no u dont ur an idiot

🤣

[limpid hearth]

Ults are apart of the game brother

[marsh comet]

not really tatlis base negates a few ults

pretty badly

[limpid hearth]

We’re not even talking about BBZ . Hop off glazer.

[dusky otter]

enemy gets close, use dash, and free three point, before they use the v move, shoot the ball foward, and go back, and get it 6-0

[young meteor]

In a discussion where both parties are DISCUSSING you shouldn't take into account a one sided mechanic

[young rapids]

Snap. needs the user to be in the paint in order to stun and guaranteed steal?

[young meteor]

I can't believe im explaining that

[young rapids]

Am I incorrect?

[dusky otter]

no im js saying because ur an idiot, so u have no general knowledge for anything

[dusky otter]

yes

[marsh comet]

no

[dusky otter]

yes

are u dumb

[marsh comet]

this destroys the purpose of the move

wha

[dusky otter]

are u dumb thats litteraly how it works

[young rapids]

I have used Tatlis already and I have not ONCE been able to use snap unles the player is in the paint

[dusky otter]

and its not even 5 seconds

LOL

[marsh comet]

if you can only be in paint there is literally zero point

[dusky otter]

if yall think snap stuns for 5 seconds u are smoking

itsl ike 2 seconds

[young rapids]

It legit gives a NOTIFICATION on activation

[limpid hearth]

Yeah and that’s because you’re a glazer. I don’t know you, you know that right? You don’t have to glaze a stranger.

[severe fjord]

Tat should be able to make ace 100% drive useless

[dusky otter]

cry 😭

[young meteor]

It's 2 seconds of stun (still too much btw)

[sterile arch]

Ok look i am not teaching u in chat how to pass if u want u can join my ps and i wil show u

[dusky otter]

exactly

[limpid hearth]

Snap works from any point on the map

[limpid hearth]

?

[marsh comet]

idk how you're playing tat but thats just not true

[young meteor]

Unless you're close enough to slobber the enemy with kisses snap usually misses

[young rapids]

Snap ACTIVATES on any point of the map. The players are only stunned if in the paint

[severe fjord]

There's no pass that change the way of intercepting no? But it late now. Maybe tmr

[marsh comet]

i've stunned people on their side of the court

[limpid hearth]

That’s not true.

Snap can stun anywhere

[young rapids]

Bc they are in THEIR paint

[marsh comet]

no they aren't

[young rapids]

There's more than one paint bro

[marsh comet]

LOL

they're at their 3 line

[limpid hearth]

You don’t know what you’re talking about big bro

[dusky otter]

bro

hes an idiot

leave em

bro

[young meteor]

Gotta play the game some more

[sterile arch]

Alr just ping me if u want

[severe fjord]

Uh I saw someone got stun at the centre

[dusky otter]

when u use snap only the people inside the little circle are stunned

are u guys slow

[errant grail]

Chrollo Dash +3
Tatlis Plays Normally, assume gets blocked, uses steal +3
Chrollo Full Court +3
Tatlis Plays normally, assume gets blocked, wait for Chrollo to get near 3 pointer instead of immediately using V, Chrollo tries shooting but Tatlis used V already so steal +3
6-6

[dusky otter]

honestly

[young rapids]

You're gonna have to send me one man I've never seen that actually happen

[dusky otter]

6-0* chrollo

[severe fjord]

Alr but how u gonna pass without a teammate

[errant grail]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-angry-gon-bait-gif-5270896389597269350

[young rapids]

There is an entire notification TELLING you "Guaranteed steal and stun in paint" when you use the move

[dusky otter]

no chrollos js better still

[errant grail]

Paint as in
His paint
The blotches he makes

[marsh comet]

you're dumb

paint, as in

the puddle you spawn

[dusky otter]

atleast ur not dumb when it comes to basic knowledge

[dusky otter]

bro hes been trying to say that