「 ABILITY REVAMP — GOLD: PRESSURE 」

[rapid nacelle]

Maybe it was sae and rin

Idk

[violet heath]

yuki was mad ptsd with his base moves

[rapid nacelle]

But I fully quit

Aside from gambling

With that king rework

[wide lava]

Would you rather have a emperor son or a gold daughter?

[winter kite]

aw hell nah 😭

[rapid nacelle]

The gun would go off

[wide lava]

An empirial pig for a son or a gold digger for a daughter ahh question

[wide lava]

Can't wait till next update to say chrollo son or a tatlis daughter 💔 🥀

[late fox]

gold daughter, emperor sons are 10x more likely to be toxic even though they're bad

the actual question is ace son or emperor son

[wide lava]

YOOO

At that point I choose child support because I'm not keeping custody of the child

[late fox]

me personally, with all due disrespect to ace players, i am picking an emperor son, it is the lesser evil in the situation

ace was already a style mostly used by annoying people, the rework didn't change that at all but made the style broken on top of that

[late fox]

at that point i choose vasectomy tbh

[wide lava]

At that point I choose misoprostol

[reef linden]

Sniper is the worst style and its not even close

[late fox]

idk about that with chuck on the roster

granted, chuck is mid on purpose

[reef linden]

Honestly i prefer chuck

It has a dribble and a ok 3

[late fox]

after the chemical reaction i think sniper is decent

[late fox]

The dribble's pretty bad and the 3 is a 50/50 to land

[reef linden]

Nah its 100% if its not blocked

[late fox]

at worst the dribble loses you the ball immediately because it misfires, at best the dribble loses you the ball in a bit because there's a gap when the succesful dribble ends where you can steal and they can't dribble

[late fox]

oh you meant heat check and not the ult

heat check is just kind of, a worse fadeaway

[reef linden]

Yeah

Yeah

But perfect arc is worse again

Unless you have like half the court to urself

[late fox]

Not really, perfect arc is easily blockable but so is heat check, the difference is that you have to be aware of perfect arc or else you get half court'd

plus, ult is a free 6 points
3 from full court and 3 from chemical reaction

[reef linden]

True

Id still rather chuck overall

[late fox]

don't get me wrong, i don't think sniper is good, but its not even close to chuck

[reef linden]

But ig they are kinda tied

[late fox]

@reef linden bro check out this absolute mid
https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1383462497117409480

you know the suggestion is bad when the poster has a sae pfp

[coarse crow]

alot of people are more worried about EMP then they are gold X_X

bet they all gold users.

[tender relic]

Emp is just generally worse than gold

But it's close

[barren gazelle]

Just got gold, and holy crap why does this exist?

[tepid quartz]

Gold is cool

[barren gazelle]

It’s makes me turn my brain off

[winter kite]

yeah

its incredibly easy to play and very effective for its ease of use

[swift swift]

uhh guys

[barren gazelle]

Yeah, that’s how I lost my first account

But now I know

[swift swift]

how

doni avoide it

[barren gazelle]

If they come to you saying they accidentally reported you and try to get you to message a support account don’t buy it

[swift swift]

oh thanks

[wide lava]

Animalistic exists so no

It's pretty good

Has counterplay sure but it ain't even consistent

[winter kite]

chuck is the undisputed worst style lol

even sniper without animalistic is better

guaranteed 6 points in awakening from any range

[wide lava]

Yea, it's hella fun to use and uh pretty sure it's throw ignores emp reach but uh yea it's trash

[barren gazelle]

If you’re good 9

[winter kite]

yeah

chuck has

no guaranteed points in awk

lol

[wide lava]

Uh wait I ain't crazy right? Like chucks fadeaway ignores emp reach right?

[winter kite]

perfect arc accomplishes what heat check tries to do but better really

[winter kite]

it doesnt

reach just doesnt work sometimes because of roblox clipping issues

[wide lava]

Ohhh

[rain ridge]

bump

something new and requiring at least some thinking?

peak

[rapid nacelle]

yeah but funny scoring from your side

!!

which perfect arc cant

[reef linden]

Oh god does tatlis have a auto dribble

[late fox]

they almost caught my girlfriend like this

[olive narwhal]

💔

discord bots SUCK

at doing their job

[thorn sage]

Have 50 lucky spin, 200 normala and another 600k, and a hope that the game give another style slot, do u guys think i would be able to get the new styles

[winter kite]

your mistake is that hoping that theyre generous enough for a style slot

[thorn sage]

Tru

Probably have to remove my perfection style

Or if gold style gets nerfed then remove that

Surly they don't nerf gold style right

[winter kite]

most likely will

[thorn sage]

Noooooo

[winter kite]

deserves some nerfs anyway

[thorn sage]

At least change the move pressure

[winter kite]

they are

[thorn sage]

K

Btw your idea is pretty good

Hopefully they do they to implement as a replacement for gold

[winter kite]

thanks man

[tepid quartz]

Ngl i’m afraid they take this idea, i dont like it
Sure is pretty unique, im giving you that, however i think its pretty boring to use
For start, you have a wind up similar to jackpot so u can easily dodge/evade it
But even so if u let it hit you with the ability, it just makes u use stamina while shooting or using abilities,…. Wow
Its just boring and weak imo, u feel like your not doing nothing much and practically will make gold seem to only have two abilities, both of them only usable with the ball
Maybe a cool defensive ability would be like an intercept ability but keeping the ball and making a dash forward or backwards
But hey, just my opinion

[reef linden]

Well technically 1 spin is enough

[winter kite]

so basically reach 2

[winter kite]

jackpot steal windup is pretty quick

[reef linden]

Just mad it takes skill

[winter kite]

if youve played flash youll see why moves or shots consuming stamina is crucial

the point of this suggestion was to make a move that requires thought to use

if youve read it

it also says it makes those actions require

stamina

meaning that if they move wrong theyll get stolen or punished

the fact that you just suggested another reach esque move says enough tbh

[reef linden]

Intercept with a dash. And you keep the ball

Crazy

[tepid quartz]

As crazy as reach

[reef linden]

Yeah

Crazier even

[winter kite]

told me all i needed to know bro

ngl i think yall are just scared of moves that have counterplay

no offense

[tepid quartz]

I’m jackpot main my brother
I got counterplay every single day
I just think making shoot and abilitys consume stamina is, hella boring and lacklust
Like you are doing nothing
At least will make that people use more his pass ability which is pretty cool

[winter kite]

how exactly is it boring and lackluster when it requires thinking from both the opponent and the user

[wide lava]

My g it's an auto aim and it cannot be dribbled, you can't avoid it, also ot isn't weak since dribble moves will now take a dribble from you and dribbling normally will count as 2 dribbles. This idea is amazing

[tepid quartz]

U can, with a pass, all it takes

[winter kite]

which is

what current pressure does

[wide lava]

"Oh it isn't an insta turnover therefor it's boring and weak"

[winter kite]

believe it or not

[wide lava]

Which is as it should be? A move should have counterplay

[winter kite]

the move pressures you into passing which is what current pressure does but it adds one more thing which puts the opponent at a disadvantage

[tepid quartz]

Hey, maybe they add this idea and people like it but in paper im not liking it

No hate tho

[wide lava]

why tho?

[tepid quartz]

I just think as an miracle you need to have “more impact”

[wide lava]

Your explanations are illogical

[wide lava]

You mean an op move with no counterplay?

[tepid quartz]

[winter kite]

the threat of the move pressures or even forces you to pass which is exactly what pressure does functionally

[tepid quartz]

When did i say that? 🥹

[winter kite]

except the move i suggested

doesnt automate that

[wide lava]

Your very much giving an implications

[winter kite]

it allows them to keep possession but it punishes them for doing that

thats literally what pressure is

🤦

[wide lava]

The move suggested would be the single best defensive move in the game if it wasn't for emperor reach

[wide lava]

And even that isn't always true in 2v2s

[wide lava]

And it still has counterplay as it should

[winter kite]

to be fair almost everything is broken in 2s

[tepid quartz]

Sure bud, im not gonna enter your rage bait
We will see what they made for him

[wide lava]

My g how is it ragebait?

Name me a better defensive move then this concept besides emperor reach?

[winter kite]

i rather suggest something thats balanced yet strong than something braindead like intercept with a lucky dash

lmao

[wide lava]

Fr

His arguments lack any logic besides "too weak because it isn't an instant turnover and boring bcoz 🤷‍♀️"

[winter kite]

im open to input as long as its valid

that input is pretty much what shaped most of this move ngl

although if youre just gonna say its boring because it isnt a busted defense move then im ngl bro you cant be talking 😭

anyway update is in like

a few hours

we are gonna get sauteéd

[tepid quartz]

Just wanna say, even the dash even backwards is op because people can flick camera and go forward instead however, i was saying a short dash, not lucky one wth
And was looking for something like emperor reach, intercept, or jackpot steal, more impactful

[winter kite]

so basically you just want a braindead move

ive already explained how this move would work practically

im not gonna reiterate man

[rapid nacelle]

Is the ragebait in the room with us?

[tepid quartz]

Ngl i wanna know what new ability are going to give him

[tepid quartz]

I think so

[rapid nacelle]

Anyways ryuji peak suggestions as always

50% glaze

[grizzled field]

This is the same arguement as "it's a miracle, its suppose to be op"

They made that mistake with emperor and look how everyone hates it

[tepid quartz]

Never said that

[reef linden]

Omg its so cooked

[tepid quartz]

Maybe im wrong but they literally took out the pressure ability?

[winter kite]

huh

wym

[rapid nacelle]

Erm

chrollo can score

from

full court

in base

[winter kite]

and tatlis has a guaranteed steal in base

[flint fox]

Gold is bad now

[rapid nacelle]

yeah i got both

and both zones

chaos is the better of the two

[crude oriole]

I have yet to get anything new since emperor

[winter kite]

DONT

[indigo abyss]

Holt bump this will save gold and also just add back fake drive while ur at it

[winter kite]

GET AS FAR AWAY AS YOU CAN

FROM THIS GAME

SAVE YOURSELF

[late fox]

This message from you is my first contact with the update

I am scared and very intrigued

[winter kite]

so

dont look at the

dev showcase

let me explain

my boy

[late fox]

nah don't explain i'm just gonna roll the styles

[winter kite]

so ih

uh

its bad.

its

REALLY BAD

thats all i gotta say

its BLEAK

[tepid quartz]

That both styles……

Im scared

[kind bone]

why did they

remove it in the first place

[tepid quartz]

One is super offensive style

And the other is super defensive

[kind bone]

Like Gold is legendary tier now

because of pressures removal

[tepid quartz]

Yeah

[kind bone]

we gotta

revolt

[indigo abyss]

Apparently

[kind bone]

we need a revert

[indigo abyss]

They voted for the move to be deleted

[kind bone]

FOR WHAT

[tepid quartz]

[indigo abyss]

Some guy said that it was 1k+ people that said they wanna remove pressure

Which is wild since the discord alone has 100k players making it 1% of the community agreeing

[winter kite]

nah

people wanted a REPLACEMENT

not a REMOVAL

idk why they just

[indigo abyss]

Wildin

[winter kite]

banished it

fake drive is gone asw btw

😭

[kind bone]

But why replace it when its already fine were acting like Chrollo and Tatlis wasnt going to be the next bane of the game

[indigo abyss]

Make another post bout a rebolution in a specific time for it to be reworked

[kind bone]

and Emperor despite the nerfs is still broken

[rapid nacelle]

no its so bad

chrollo can score from your side

[winter kite]

btw

[rapid nacelle]

in base

[winter kite]

THERE ARE NO

[rapid nacelle]

tatlis auto steal

[indigo abyss]

And just spam general

[kind bone]

I literally still use it

[rapid nacelle]

DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED

ON THE ULT

[kind bone]

I stopped using Gold

because it was trash now

Went back to Emp

[winter kite]

THERE ARE NO IMPORTANT NERFS TO REACH BTW

IT JUST HAS AN INDICATOR

[tepid quartz]

The vote said “remove pressure completly (REMOVE TO SMOTHING ELSE)

[winter kite]

IT STILL REACHESPASSES

[tepid quartz]

Where is that something else

[kind bone]

Like Emp nerfs werent that bad

[tepid quartz]

Omfg

[indigo abyss]

Tatlises style is better prove me wrong (by concept not by terms of being op)

[kind bone]

im pissed that they just gutted Gold

[winter kite]

its over bro im quitting LMAOOO

[kind bone]

this community amazes me on how stupid they can be sometimes

Were gonna remove pressure right before the most braindead update releases

the community managed to make a Miracle tier style feel legendary tier

[tepid quartz]

I was thinking of keeping gold or changed it, but now ik what to do

[kind bone]

imo if ur aiming for chrollo or tatlis

i say rol

roll

it isnt good

[tepid quartz]

Ik

[kind bone]

its literally worse than the mythics rn

[tepid quartz]

I still at least have jackpot

And when i get a new slot

[kind bone]

Gold went from being one of the best styles to being better than Lock worse than everything else and thats me being nice

[winter kite]

HAHAAHAHHAA

😭

W WHITE NAME

[remote topaz]

whos the community bro we wanted a rework and instead of it being reworked it was lazily removed

[indigo abyss]

I had emp bb god and gold rolled bb god for chrollo im boutta roll gold for tatlis cuz he just got gutted and emp is atleast playable

[tepid quartz]

And gold gets a defensive ability back, i will go for gold again

[kind bone]

But logic needs to be involved which is why I say "the community"

we removed the only ability that could actually counter the two most broken styles in the game

upon us yes US making this decision we made Gold one of the lowest tier styles in the game

[tepid quartz]

I mean it has still a cool move, but u have nothing in the defense

[remote topaz]

useless poll that wasnt even taken into account

[kind bone]

gold rn is specifically just a better playmaker no uniqueness no nothing js playmaker with more steps

[remote topaz]

remove ability and replace it with something else=remove ability and do nothing because the devs dont feel like fixing it

[kind bone]

or js

screw what ur idiot community says

and not remove it

cause u know the next styles are gonna be better anyways

like can we use logic sometimes

or does the community not understand that power creep exist?

[winter kite]

aye big dawg chill 😭

[kind bone]

no no

let him cook

[tepid quartz]

No no

Dont let him cook

[winter kite]

chrollo had no business throwing jabs at miro when he was making an update that was just as bad

[wraith hinge]

200 LS AND NO LIMITED
500 NORMAL S

[winter kite]

homie tryna be a martyr 😭

i do not condone this

[tepid quartz]

Ngl, gold is basically the style that devs most bully him
Imagine: u are a miracle style. Ur dev showcase realease before the update, not getting any sneaks peaks (only in tiktok i have seen it) and no voice line in your ultimate….. EVEN RARES HAVE VOICE ACTORS
At least the moves where cool but…..

Idk man

I just feel like they where going to kill gold

Because

Yes

[rapid nacelle]

at least chrollo didnt make a 0.013 that was worse than any mythic 😭

all im sayin

[winter kite]

naw

hes just as bad bro

[rapid nacelle]

i mean

we all knew

it would happen

And its still obejectly "better" than miros updates

[kind bone]

idk where the hate comes from

[tepid quartz]

Me neither

I cannot understand it

Im gonna remove gold for now and when they give gold a defensive ability maybe i will try to go for him again

[thorn sage]

EHY DID THEY REMOVE EIT I THOUGHT THEY WOULD REPLACE IT

[winter kite]

idk

lol

[thorn sage]

:(((

I should roll of gold right

[winter kite]

yeah might as well

[thorn sage]

I GOT EMP

[radiant shuttle]

Bro I got chrollo five times and no Tatlis

[thorn sage]

Lol

Chrollo isn't bad

It just pure offensive

But tatlis isn't that good, or much better

Yes it can ganauntee steal

[winter kite]

unironically chrollo is less busted than tatlis

[thorn sage]

Tru

But talis player, you can play around ut

[winter kite]

which is funny because people were expecting tatlis to have something balanced

[winter kite]

barely

[thorn sage]

K

[winter kite]

half court dash that guarantees steal

[thorn sage]

No eay

[winter kite]

stun aoe that guarantees steal or shot depending on if youre on the ball or not

dribble that has a stun aoe as well

yeah

[thorn sage]

Wait btw what was the nerf on emp

[winter kite]

literally

nothing

just a red outline

lol

[thorn sage]

Yay

[winter kite]

it still works on passes

[thorn sage]

I can now tramatize people now

[tepid quartz]

If u ask i would said that chrollo is more op

Dont know why

Maybe because he can score from anywhere?

[wild wagon]

This guy gets it

(I say as now a certified Tatlis main)

[polar pier]

JUSTICE FOR GOLD 🗣️🔥

[thorn sage]

YEAH

[wild wagon]

I mean he's still Top 5, it's just now he's an offensive support style rather than a all rounder support

[thorn sage]

But also no

Cause I roll it off

[polar pier]

yh I miss trolling ppl with pressure

[wild wagon]

Now you get to troll them with Snap

[polar pier]

meh it’s not as fun as pressure

[thorn sage]

The only issue with it was that it just passed to another team8 and doesn't rly stop them from. Acoring

[polar pier]

all Tatlis user do is creaming at you

[wild wagon]

nah, i LOVE hitting snap on offence

only thing about it is that people on the floor do still count towards shot contestion

[thorn sage]

Tru

[wild wagon]

missed a shot once cause i hit 4 people in 1 snap and they were all around me on the floor when i shot

[polar pier]

and that what makes it fun not just braindead pop the ball off their hand to your team8

[radiant shuttle]

I bloody had the dot on tatlis and rolled chrollo five times but still no tatlis

The scams

[wild wagon]

160 luckys for Chrollo and nothing, i got Tatlis literally 1st lucky roll

[radiant shuttle]

I just did 600 normal spins

My mate gifted me skip spins

[polar pier]

Is this game have testers?

[thorn sage]

I would of rather the person to be disarmed

[wild wagon]

instead of chrollo i've pulled 5 golds, 2 emperors and a Tatlis dupe

[radiant shuttle]

But Istg bro if I don’t get tatlis before the end of the upd

[thorn sage]

Tatlis is broken

[wild wagon]

i love him

[radiant shuttle]

I’ve pulled two emperors no gold and five chrollo in 600 normals but NO TATLIS

ITS RIGGED

[thorn sage]

Creaming on people all day long

[radiant shuttle]

I EVEN HAD MY POINTER ON TAT

[thorn sage]

Lol

[polar pier]

Tatlis awk is just pure agony to opp team

[radiant shuttle]

ITS A SCAMMMMMMMM

[wild wagon]

im a defensive player in both BBZ and Azure latch so characters like Lock, Don, Aiku and Tatlis are my favorites

[thorn sage]

Tru

[radiant shuttle]

I’m a defensive player in any sport irl

I like defence

Cuz no one else does

[thorn sage]

I also like the game when the team actually isn't braindead

[thorn sage]

SAMMMMEEEE

[radiant shuttle]

W

[wild wagon]

once went up against 3 chrollo's and 1 emp with 2 tatlis' and a star, we won

[thorn sage]

Ok

[radiant shuttle]

How ya versing 6 people at once

Isnt it five on a team

[thorn sage]

If there is any more than one tatlis in the other team

U are cooked

[polar pier]

Giant best defensive style 🗣️

[radiant shuttle]

Nah

[winter kite]

careful yall

dont bypass

[thorn sage]

Btw when is the chrollo vs tatlis

[radiant shuttle]

Tat

[winter kite]

mods are doing damage control

[wild wagon]

LOCK best defence style

[thorn sage]

Huh

[winter kite]

yeah

[polar pier]

nuh uh

[winter kite]

the uh

backlash got a bit too

[thorn sage]

Wdym

[winter kite]

overwhelming in suggestions

[thorn sage]

Ohhh

[winter kite]

so theyre deleting threads and modding people who are talking

[wild wagon]

kids crying over not getting the styles or 'they're too op'

[winter kite]

just a heads up

[thorn sage]

Thx

[winter kite]

the people who are complaining about the styles being busted

[polar pier]

they make the game unplayable and they don’t want our opinion? 💔

[winter kite]

thats how it is in current man

welcome to the club

[polar pier]

💔

Is this game have tester btw

[winter kite]

they do

[wild wagon]

Chrollo: "these are the most busted styles we've ever dropped in the game"
Community: "WHY ARE THEY SO BUSTED?!"

[winter kite]

they have no say in the balancing btw

[winter kite]

regardless

its an awful update

lol

[polar pier]

then why you have tester if they can’t give you comments 💔

[wild wagon]

I just love it cause of the Tatlis style

[winter kite]

they just want you to find bugs

[polar pier]

oh nah

you want to fix bug but not the balancing?

great!

[tepid quartz]

JUSTICE FOR GOLD

[tepid quartz]

Brother same

[tepid quartz]

Im not exaggerating when I’m telling me and my friends play a 3v3 (we had two chrollos and one tatlis) and we feel bad winning because the styles were to op
They only had a chrollo a giant and lock so….

Basically unfair

Imagine someone new going to give a try to the gane and out of nowhere someone score from his court

Or he dribbles and someone steals the ball

Like bruh

[winter kite]

ngl brochacho i kinda dont care lmao

i quit the game

and i dont plan to come back since the devs dont seem to like criticism either

[tepid quartz]

Lets see if someday they listen the comunity

Rijido

[winter kite]

they dont

they got mods silencing criticism and calling it hate

lmao

[olive narwhal]

Eh pressure was funner cuz it would send the ball 10 yards away and they would be forced to waste their dribbles to come to your court

[tepid quartz]

I love snap as well, i used a lot, but now in defense u have nothing

[wild wagon]

Color move whatever it’s called. It’s offence version is ok in comparison to its defence version

[thorn sage]

Only half the time

[bitter zealot]

Is chaos flow just way better than paint?

[tepid quartz]

I prefer paint ngl

[outer river]

Did they just delete my suggestion LMAO

[winter kite]

yes

yes they did

[tepid quartz]

What was your suggestion?

[winter kite]

it was a criticism suggestion

funny enough

[outer river]

Hmmm... How do we deal with the criticism? Fix all the issues they are calling us out for? Nah! Let's silence em!

[winter kite]

it wasnt deleted because of what the suggestion contained

it got deleted because the qh was getting jumped LMAOOO

[tender relic]

so uh

[outer river]

I wish I could rip jackpot out of this game and leave

[tender relic]

judex

[outer river]

Cause it's pretty much the only unique cool thing it has brought me

[tender relic]

how we feeling abt ur thread getting deleted

[radiant shuttle]

They needa make a vr version of it

[outer river]

Like I care for a second lmao

[tender relic]

no way

did they censor BBL

[tepid quartz]

If u wonder i deleted my own message

[tender relic]

Basketball Legends

nvm

[tepid quartz]

Nono it was me

Just in case

[tender relic]

best game

[tepid quartz]

Ngl i try it once and didnt like it

[radiant shuttle]

Only thing I like about the upd is tatlis style and I can’t even get it

I’ve had chrollo five times

Tryna get tat

I don’t rlly see what all the hate is about on this upd tho

It’s rlly not that bad

[tender relic]

it's crazy how they branded the suggestion as just straight up hating instead of criticism

so they deleted it

[radiant shuttle]

I don’t like that chrollo can steal from tm8s tho

[tepid quartz]

Same, I think i will spin chrollo for him

[tepid quartz]

U mean his awakening ability?

[radiant shuttle]

No

U mean pass!

I*

Ima keep chrollo cuz some dude gifted me 2nd slot so I’m rolling for tat on that slot

Tat looks way better ngl

[outer river]

Huffing that copium

[radiant shuttle]

?

Na

[outer river]

Making up excuses like it's not because they want to hide the criticism

They want all the fans like this

There's not a gif hold on

https://youtu.be/7NE0sYIBMJI?si=QAwCS6ynDBCn9qZD

Tatlis my goat... Chrollo my goat...

[winter kite]

W...

theyre aura farming...

[outer river]

They so tuff bro on gng twin... 💔 🥀

[winter kite]

honestly

im surprised

where was this damage control

during perf emp and gold

did the devs manage to see the tomfoolery going on

[outer river]

Dunno

Maybe they got fed up cause these are "their" styles

[winter kite]

it cant be... people dont like... broken styles....

[outer river]

Shocking

[dapper tartan]

Bro I went to mugen said this game will end up like bbz and someone said oh good than it’ll be fun wth how do these people not have a sense of what a good game is

[outer river]

I just don't like demon slayer so

[tepid quartz]

Ngl a battlegrounds with gambing characters…..

But i dont play it cause never seen demon slayer

[dapper tartan]

Watch it

[dapper tartan]

It’s amazing

[dapper tartan]

LMFAO REALLL

[winter kite]

LMAOOOO

[thorn sage]

is emp worth or go for tatlis

cause i have 14 lucky 300normal + 1m

[storm wren]

Go for tatlis

tatlis’s defence clears emperor

And it can be used offensively as well

[high crane]

Atp if they don't have a major balance change the player count will decrease cause this update is genuinely not fair. They nerf gold and emperor down to the ground to release more broken styles. Golds pressure move wasn't even op if they wanted to balance it all they had to do was not make it able to be used when someone is dribbling

This update is probably the worst one they have released cause there was no need to nerf the miracles gold isn't even worth of being miracle anymore because of this change

[winter kite]

the thing is

chrollo just likes making things broken

a dev has confirmed this

honestly ive lost hope for the game

its better to quit than to see worse things than this

[high crane]

Same here

[grim ibex]

this is lwk a dumb idea

[winter kite]

bbz players when they see a balanced move

its like kryptonite to them

[high crane]

Fr

[winter kite]

we get it bro

you want your half court guaranteed steal move

[reef linden]

Ikr

I 100% thought chrollo wouldve been more broken

The dash is op

But thats a simple fix

[reef linden]

Where as tatlis has guarenteed basically 2 guarenteed steals a op dash and an op 3 point opener all in base

[grizzled field]

Dont even get me started on his awk

Snap

But u can use it 3 times

[reef linden]

Yeah

[grizzled field]

3 TIMES

[reef linden]

Its mental

[grizzled field]

WHOS BRAINDEAD IDEA WAS THAT

[reef linden]

Tatlis' i suppose

[grizzled field]

ITS LIKE CHROLLO STYLE IS I CAN SCORE ANYTHING

AND TATLIS IS YOU CAN DO NOTHING

WHAT ARE THESE DEV STYLES

[reef linden]

Trash

[winter kite]

@grizzled field you heard of the incidents today?

[grizzled field]

I knew they were gonna be op but not this op brih

[reef linden]

Honestly tho chrollo is an easy fix. Just reduce the dash range. And decrease the shot chance.

[grizzled field]

What incidents

[winter kite]

so uh

[grizzled field]

Ive been staying away from bbz

[winter kite]

staff did damage control in suggestions

they deleted a lot of criticism posts

if youve noticed

judexs suggestion is gone

[grizzled field]

I was wondering where all the threads went

Dude thats actually insane

[winter kite]

yeah

its funny really

5 people got banned as well

[grizzled field]

I swear imma be the next one

This is a dictatorship

[winter kite]

thats what the other guy said

[grizzled field]

This is what that dude mao zhedong did bruh

Made it so people was able to suggest stuff

Then killed the people who did

[winter kite]

hMMM

[dark sphinx]

@winter kite I did a gold revamp suggestion would you be fine if I put the link to this suggestion in it bc this off pressure revamp fire

[winter kite]

this is like

the 3rd time now?

[coral marten]

yes

[grizzled field]

I SERIOUSLY HOPE THEY NERF THESE 2 DEV STYLES BRUH

They did amazing with emp

But then they add 2 worse problems

[winter kite]

it still works on passes

for some reason

[grizzled field]

WHAT

[winter kite]

yeah

idk

it just has an indicator thats it

might be wrong

[indigo abyss]

THEY FINNA REWORK PRESSURE NO WAY THEY ACC LISTENED TO.THE COMMUNITY

[winter kite]

i havent tested it out since i quit

[grizzled field]

Ive been too angry at tatlis snap that i forgot emp reach had a pass nerf

[winter kite]

does anyone use emp here

i

havent tested out the reach nerfs properly

it probably still works on passes ngl

idk why

pressure was removed

i didnt like the move but i didnt find that necessary

[grizzled field]

Its to make snap the dominant defense skill

[winter kite]

yeah

pretty much

[grizzled field]

Tatlis is basically lock if it worked

[winter kite]

i think people have trust issues now

[dark sphinx]

Lock but 10x worse

[winter kite]

they arent believing chrollo 😭

[winter kite]

half court dash that guarantees steals

[dark sphinx]

I mean idk what he expected doing this two games in a row

[winter kite]

is still crazy to me

wait

wasnt this update supposed to be

focused on balance patches as well

i guess that got postponed

[grizzled field]

Tho I do like this content every 2 weeks

[dark sphinx]

The patches were nerfing the other dominant styles so the new ones could shine

Nerfed Ace, Gold and Emperor

[grizzled field]

So they can actually focus on making it less buggy and balanced hopefully

[winter kite]

gold got gutted lol

its funny really

[grizzled field]

Fr💀

[winter kite]

idk what the ace nerfs are

and im not sure if

[grizzled field]

Well gold didn't get gutted

[winter kite]

reach works on passes or not

[grizzled field]

Its just that the new styles are that much better

[hard fern]

add pressure back plsss 😭

[lavish yarrow]

Bro, why is there a whole chat inside of here?

[winter kite]

does anybody have emperor

[hard fern]

without pressure gold is like an mythic

[winter kite]

its WILD that i cant find anybody using emperor

[grizzled field]

Cuz they tryna silence us

[winter kite]

youll get used to it in suggestions

should i

make a suggestion

that focuses on balancing the limiteds

[grizzled field]

Just balancing in general

We can always change the name of it whenever a new style becomes too op

[winter kite]

yeah lmao

[coral nymph]

wait did they just remove pressure entirely? or did they change it into something else

[winter kite]

they uh

they removed it

along with fakeout drive

funny enough

[grizzled field]

Yeah it's gone

[winter kite]

YOOOOO

😭

[coral nymph]

thank god i rolled it

[winter kite]

does anybody have emperor

im tryna find out if

[coral nymph]

uhh they just removed the better variant?

[grizzled field]

[winter kite]

reach works on passes or not

[winter kite]

i forgot which one that was ngl

[grizzled field]

I rolled off reach as soon as I saw how braindead tatlis is

[coral nymph]

it does, unless i found like 74 cheaters since the update

[coral nymph]

fakeout drive is the one where it passes but it can transition into a 3

[winter kite]

oh boy

why

why do we need perfection again

😭

[arctic tusk]

people consider perfection a perfect counter for chrollo's shooting move

hehe perfect

which is a fair, a character who can teleport to the ball and stop it midair, sending it back

[coral nymph]

they should make it so limiteds you've owned before be permanently obtainable for you

[arctic tusk]

they were..

but tatlis

said nahh

[winter kite]

youre back

[arctic tusk]

I was muted, not banned lol

[winter kite]

oh i see

[coral nymph]

or they should make it so every week a new style goes in stock for a "limited" rarity that contains bbg, perfection and c/t

[arctic tusk]

I wouldn't say every week

maybe bi-weekly

[winter kite]

yeah

just bi weekly

[coral nymph]

yeah thats better

[winter kite]

idm perf coming back its pretty balanced rn

all im tryna do is

[coral nymph]

and then every 2 weeks the style is switched into another one giving everyone the opportunity to get a limited
oh yeah they should make it like REALLY rare tho to balance it out for the people who did get the style when they were supposed to

[winter kite]

get some attention on this suggestion

bars

ooh bars

ooh im going insanse

[arctic tusk]

sighh

a lot of the sensible suggestions

[coral nymph]

insanse

[arctic tusk]

are gonna get shoved down for a while

[winter kite]

yeah

a lot of them

[arctic tusk]

I might as well go make another style concept now

Finna cook

[winter kite]

go ahead

im just gonna try to get this pressure replacement across

[dark sphinx]

Just keep bumping

[coral nymph]

bump

bump

why cant i copy and paste

[winter kite]

ehat the hell does chrollo mean by that

illuminati reasons

[grizzled field]

Probably copyright reasons idk

[winter kite]

i kinda

dont get it

lmao

[grizzled field]

Same reason as to why they won't do nba player styles

[dark sphinx]

So chrollo and tatlis are gonna keep returning?? This is gonna be BLR world class all over again

[grizzled field]

Perfection is just too similar to cell ig

[winter kite]

dont we have rodman and shaq

[dark sphinx]

Yes

[grizzled field]

Whos Rodman?

Like for style

[dark sphinx]

Fetch

[winter kite]

fetch

[grizzled field]

Fetch is for looseballs😭

Rodman is a rebounder

[winter kite]

the cover art for the game during the update was rodman as well

for some reason

[dusk bobcat]

Whats the revamp? Too much messages to scroll and see

[arctic tusk]

to be fair, it could so easily be excused as

[winter kite]

uhhhhhh

[arctic tusk]

an OC similar to Rodman

[winter kite]

wait

@dusk bobcat

[dusk bobcat]

Thanks

[winter kite]

here you go

man im hungry

[dusk bobcat]

Oh..wow

Thats nice

[winter kite]

lets see if they

remain consistent with this

if they do

well thats an improvement

by this i mean schedule

im gonna go suggest nerfs for the limiteds

man

i forgot which alt i had

[tepid quartz]

They listen

[winter kite]

the styles in

lets hope they keep doing that

beef gyudon or italian food

[grizzled field]

@winter kite

#1386000052207485092

[winter kite]

whats up

[grizzled field]

Someone saying tatlis and chrollo takes skill

[winter kite]

yikes

wait

am i tweakinf

or does

snap

have three uses before cooldown

[coral nymph]

the ult snap does

[winter kite]

oh HELL NO

[coral nymph]

i dont think the regular one does unless its glitchy

[winter kite]

tatlis son or chrollo daughter

[coral nymph]

what

[coral nymph]

uhh imma get the milk

[winter kite]

imma uh

need details

on the styles

ykw

ill hop on the damn game lol

[coral nymph]

uhh what tyles

[winter kite]

chrollo and tatlis

im making an in depth nerf suggestion

[coral nymph]

think about the zones too because they're also very broken imo

[winter kite]

i kinda

forgot sbout the zones

ion think they need nerfs but

the styles do

[coral nymph]

i mean they have some broken effects imo

like

paint doesnt allow you to get anklebroken and it has a chance to make everyone that he anklebreaks stunned for 5s

[winter kite]

mane what

FIVE

BRK WHAT FIVE

NOT EVEN CHARGE DOES THAT

[coral nymph]

if you get the extra effect on a defender you can just score immediately

it essentially just does the ink thing

the chance is 1 in 4 though

it also boosts speed off the ball

as if it wasnt good enough for a defender

[winter kite]

1 in 4

is

STILL A LOT

you got THREE dribbles

[coral nymph]

yeah but green

[winter kite]

this is

my progress so far

[coral nymph]

65% for a guaranteed fullcourt is just way more broken imo

chaos zone boosts speed with ball, increases shoot speed and 10% less cooldowns

paint is better imo

[dark sphinx]

What does paint do

[winter kite]

i screenshotted it mainly bc its filtered for some reason

this is just base so far

[coral nymph]

and boosts off the ball speed @dark sphinx

oh yeah also for pass make it so it auto locks you into shooting/passing back

[winter kite]

like

a pumpfake state?

[dark sphinx]

Huh???

Like emperor pass??

[coral nymph]

yeah like colored strike with the ball

[winter kite]

i see

i should replace the 2nd one with that if thats the case

[coral nymph]

no like, hen you get the pass you go in that pumpfake state where you need to shoot or pass

[coral nymph]

idk if replacing is enough, i'd say like making it 1s or sumn like that

[winter kite]

alright

???

what even is filtered here

[coral nymph]

idk man

let me test

The user

should be

forced

into a

pump-fake

state after

[winter kite]

no i mean

the entire message

[coral nymph]

receiving the

pass

[winter kite]

has this problem

i cant post it

[coral nymph]

yeah i dont think its in that segment

[coral nymph]

what did you change from this one

[coral nymph]

to this one

[winter kite]

i just added that segment

changed two to one

[coral nymph]

maybe its like the hashtag that makes stuff big

[winter kite]

btw i screenshotted it mainly because it was filtered in the first place

[winter kite]

it doesnt have that lol

[coral nymph]

idk then

i'm pretty sure the hashtag thing happened to me in another suggestion

[winter kite]

hold on

chrollo

tatlis

style balancing

huh

[coral nymph]

pass!

green!

like what

[coral nymph]

the L lookin stuff

or the &

[coral nymph]

chrollo & tatlis

[coral nymph]

CHROLLO & TATLIS

[winter kite]

WHAT IS HAPPENING BRO 😭

STYLE BALANCING CHROLLO AND TATLIS

[coral nymph]

IF YOU REMOVE BALANCING ITS THE SAME THING

[winter kite]

SYMBOLS ARENT ALLOWED FOR SOME REASON

[coral nymph]

IT'S THE MINUS

[winter kite]

SPECIFICALLY THE DASH

[coral nymph]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[winter kite]

HUH?????

can i ping a mod for this

[coral nymph]

do this —

this one is allowed

for some god forsaken reason

[versed gate]

#1385756452131438662 IF YALL SPENT A LOT OF LUCKY SPINS AND DIDNT GET A LIMITED GO BOOST MY SUGGESTION SO CHROLLO CAN SEE IT!

[coral nymph]

WHY IS THE BIG DASH ALLOWED BUT NOT THE SMALL ONE

[winter kite]

「 STYLE BALANCING — CHROLLO & TATLIS

this is so weird bro

_

[

EVERY OTHER SYMBOL IS ALLOWED

@cloud valve sorry for the inconvenience but is there a particular reason why the dash symbol is filtered out?

[coral nymph]

(except hashtags)

[cloud valve]

dash symbol?

[graceful loom]

Cool

[winter kite]

uh

[winter kite]

minus sign

[cloud valve]

ohh yeah idk

[winter kite]

dang

[cloud valve]

yeah ik checked it out myself

[cloud valve]

idk why

[coral nymph]

plus is allowed at least

[cloud valve]

😭

hear me out

at least smth

[winter kite]

were people using it for bypasses or sum

[cloud valve]

Ig so

[winter kite]

i think people used the dash as a header to spam during the chrollo v tatlis event

[cloud valve]

Mostly bcs of bypassing but I dont have the info abt it

so srry for this

[coral nymph]

subtraction isnt allowed ig but there's the —

[winter kite]

no worries just wanted to know

[cloud valve]

🙏

[winter kite]

will it remain filtered?

[cloud valve]

Idk

amma ask it tmrw

cause rn

[winter kite]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-web-of-shadow-peak-cinema-sad-gif-7340388374421121993

[cloud valve]

it is 3 am...

[winter kite]

alright

thats fine

thanks a lot

[cloud valve]

My brain aint braining rn

[cloud valve]

Np

[coral nymph]

uhh ryujiji for some reason to put the — you need to do alt + 0 + 1 + 5 + 1 dont ask me why

or copypaste it

WAIT LOOK AT THIS SUGGESTION'S TITLE I JUST REALIZED

[winter kite]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-gif-5837147549451255056

[sharp marten]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1386088143811510352 can y’all bump my if it’s good:)

[winter kite]

alright

i have an alternate for bullets

• asterisks

[coral nymph]

• you used dashes before?

[radiant shuttle]

Style- heehee

Bru

CHROLLO-TATLIS

[coral nymph]

its officially been 7 hours and i STILL can't post my suggestion in the mugen discord server because the suggestion thing is full for some reason

[radiant shuttle]

LOL

lol

[winter kite]

yeah

IT WORKED

[coral nymph]

nice

[winter kite]

they had me doing mental gymnastics tryna figure out what was wrong

[winter kite]

what does uhh

[sharp marten]

Yo guys

[winter kite]

chrollos awakening c do

i forgot

[sharp marten]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1386088143811510352 can y’all bump my

[coral nymph]

i forgor too

[winter kite]

hot dang

hot diggity dawg

[sharp marten]

Which one is c

C

[winter kite]

i forgor

[coral nymph]

imma check it out wait a sec

[sharp marten]

Like what number

[coral nymph]

its the pull

the one where you pull a shot to your hands

[winter kite]

is it usable in any range?

oh so its just lucky pull

ngl thats not too bad

[coral nymph]

but cutscene

but i think it has to be a shot to the rim to work

no pass and no missed shots i think

[winter kite]

oh i see

its not too bad i guess

[coral nymph]

actually missed shots might count but idk

[winter kite]

his B move is the

demon

[coral nymph]

and idk if layups count cuz tou can lucky pull them i think

[winter kite]

form or whatever

[coral nymph]

i dedicate this requiem... to you

[winter kite]

that one surprisingly isnt that bad as well

[coral nymph]

monster dunk thing

[winter kite]

how far is the dunk range for it

[coral nymph]

idk

showcases are terrible and i dont have him

its like i think just like a bit longer if not the same

[spiral mist]

it's slightly before the 3 point

it doesn't buff it that much

[coral nymph]

oh is it?

[spiral mist]

chrollo's ult form isn't good

[coral nymph]

yeah his ult is meh

[spiral mist]

idk why he said it was better than perfection

[coral nymph]

tatlis' ult on the other hand... now THAT is broken

[spiral mist]

i love my 5 almost guaranteed steals

[coral nymph]

a free 5s stun on everyone

[coral nymph]

the steal B is meh, stun B is broken tho

it also teleports you to the middle of the court

no matter where you are

[spiral mist]

steal b is just as good

[coral nymph]

i mean you have the C

[winter kite]

yall

i need opinions

[coral nymph]

what

[spiral mist]

duh but if both forms of the b move lead to a free 3 it doesn't matter

[winter kite]

Base [ C — Snap! ]

• Reduce the stun duration.
• Should not be usable when the user is in possession of the ball.
• The stun for this move should be avoidable through jumping or dribbling.

[coral nymph]

wait does steal B stun too?

[spiral mist]

yes

just not the whole team

[coral nymph]

uhh good but it's Snap. btw not Snap!

[winter kite]

oh woops

[coral nymph]

just to make it more professional kinda