Gold Nerfs

[modern drift]

Basketball god

Or gold vision

[burnt cloak]

liability on defense

[burnt cloak]

i got this

i got this

[modern drift]

I mean zone

[minor eagle]

dont most comps ban emp

[modern drift]

Not the style

[minor eagle]

or am i confusing it with

leagues

[burnt cloak]

wasnt playing when that was released

i had perfection

then

i thought i was gana get a free slot

for perfection

then he changed it to an event

couldnt be asked to do ts

😭

[burnt cloak]

whnats the buffs on this?

bro tf

i shoulda gotten bb god zone

its mad busted bra

😭

[modern drift]

Unblockable dunks and extended range

[plush cove]

Bball god for dunk spam

Gold vision for bball god combo

[burnt cloak]

bru ts mad busted

i shoulda got it

[plush cove]

And way better dribbles

And then perfection for an overall balanced boost

[plush cove]

Just get posterizer if you dont got it

Super fast inside the 3point line and unblockable dunks

[burnt cloak]

posterizer is horrid

i wont even lie to u

[plush cove]

Dog its literally just bball god without the extra range

😭

[burnt cloak]

and the extra dribble'

[plush cove]

It doesnt give an extra dribble

Its only 3

For bball god

[burnt cloak]

ohhh

cool

should i keep gold vision

its what im using rn

[plush cove]

What build are you going for

[burnt cloak]

lme show u what i got rn

[plush cove]

Keep

[burnt cloak]

ok

[burnt cloak]

can u still get basketball god flow?

[plush cove]

Now

[ebon cairn]

nope

[plush cove]

??

No

He was only available for like 5 days

[mental knoll]

Just get it but

[fallen kiln]

Nope

Limited for a reason

[vapid arrow]

is this just the best flow in the game

[fallen kiln]

For offensive purposes

Yeah

I personally prefer a flow that gives an off-the-ball speed boost

[lyric moss]

Basketball god is ten times more busted then any other style in the game because of how fast the dunk move is and how far the dribble move is near impossible to guard it

[fallen kiln]

Wrong and wrong
Dunk is literally only two points and the cooldown isn’t super low. There are many free dunk moves in the game so idk why you’re complaining about this one

The dribble is inconsistent.
Sometimes it takes you across the map, sometimes it takes you in the opposite direction of where you wanted to go, sometimes it puts you right back into the spot you were trying to dribble from.
In short, bbg is buns, at least in base

I literally spun off of bbg because of how buns he is

Checkpoint

[raw belfry]

Not js the style btw

Gold vision is prolly the best flow in the game

holy power creep

stacking speed dribbler w an extra dribble + bonus of increased pass strength and auto dunk

[lyric moss]

So its bad making a zone meant about getting down court and passing got it

[raw belfry]

???

are you ok

[fallen kiln]

Okay so you literally just said that nearly every style in the game is bad 💔

[lyric moss]

Gold is balanced compared to some styles

[raw belfry]

This is js speed dribbler but power crept

[lyric moss]

I main phantom

[raw belfry]

and ur tryna defend the zone?

[lyric moss]

Pretty easy to counter gold users

[fallen kiln]

Almost every flow is made for that purpose, but there’s a clear line between balanced and unbalanced

[raw belfry]

This dude gotta be a kid

[fallen kiln]

Must be

[lyric moss]

Gold is more about passing then scoring for the zone

So I’m a kid for having a different opinion then y’all got it

[fallen kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/geeb-bruh-really-are-you-serious-gif-20129962

[fallen kiln]

An objectively wrong one

[raw belfry]

bro

have you used gold vision?

[fallen kiln]

Have you seen a single person actually using the flow for the passing

[raw belfry]

it’s better speed dribbler

Meaning

[lyric moss]

Read what it says!!!

[raw belfry]

You can js spam the dribble

And score

[lyric moss]

read

Just read what the zone says

[fallen kiln]

Literally everyone I’ve seen uses the flow for the speed dribble

[raw belfry]

have you not used it to score

?

it’s BETTER SPEED DRIBBLER

[lyric moss]

It leads to dunks for passing

[lyric moss]

Of course it’s gonna be it’s a higher rarity gang

Plus street dribble is from the release of the game

Of course their is gonna be power creep

[lyric moss]

I use perfection

[raw belfry]

Higher rarity SHOULDNT mean better

that’s the problem

that ruins the balance of the game

js look at blr

[fallen kiln]

Ehhh

[lyric moss]

It means it’s more versatile and easier to use

[raw belfry]

Do you want the game to be like blr

look at what they doing

[lyric moss]

Gang what your trying to do is like blr nerfing every new things just cause it’s op or power creep

[raw belfry]

if you keep making better and better styles that power creep will ruin the game

because people will expect better and better each update

[fallen kiln]

Higher rarity should mean better, just not so much better

[raw belfry]

Eventually making the game unplayable

[raw belfry]

no gng that’s horrible balance

[lyric moss]

Fr like street dribble is still amazing as is

[fallen kiln]

If it wasn’t better, there’d be no point of the rarity

[lyric moss]

Same with jackpot

[raw belfry]

look at games like azure latch

they have higher rarities

but every style is useable

the rarer styles are js more hype

hype and cool characters are placed in higher rarities

[lyric moss]

Yes cool but it takes more skill to play and most players don’t like that they rather play a game that takes takes less skill

Bro

Basketball zero is not really meant to take skill to play

It’s a game about making easy shots

And scoring

[raw belfry]

🥀

[lyric moss]

That is what Chrollo wanted for us

[raw belfry]

If you are happy w that then I guess it’s fine

[lyric moss]

If you go all the way back when basketball zero was released he wanted everyone to be able to score easily

[raw belfry]

Score easily BUT make defending a key part

He said the game was about making space

And that’s why he didn’t add a shoot bar

release bbz was much better

[lyric moss]

Gang I can defend 90% of the stuff in the game easily

The blocking is easy to understand

[raw belfry]

how are you blocking ace dribble for example 😭

[lyric moss]

And it takes me one failed try to learn to block something and every time after that I shut them down constnstly

[raw belfry]

It takes you across the map

W one button

[lyric moss]

The shots they take I just use perfection to teleport to them

[raw belfry]

in my opinion (js mine) that’s not fun

[lyric moss]

Ever heard of perfection teleporting to you

[minor eagle]

ever heard of

uh

reaction time

because nobody is falling for that

unless youre a 50 ovr

[lyric moss]

I use it to teleport Infront of a person and block their shot

Not block their shot out right

I always aim to teleport Infront of a person

[minor eagle]

exactly

nobody is falling for that lol

[lyric moss]

And then get ready to block

[minor eagle]

people have gotten used to perfection

[raw belfry]

Wtv the game is js cooked

[lyric moss]

Yep and people will get use to gold too both the zone and style

[minor eagle]

it has been for a while

[raw belfry]

thought Chrollo might balance stuff and not make this a kids rng gambling slop

[minor eagle]

its just spiraling down

[raw belfry]

but he’s adding 2 limiteds next update

[opaque sparrow]

wtf who the hell is saying "pressure is trash" its an automatic turnover if your teammates are marking all the other players

[raw belfry]

Games js doomed

[lyric moss]

The game is kinda blanced if you understand the basics of the game

[minor eagle]

this game is not balanced

[raw belfry]

yeah ur high

[minor eagle]

are you serious dawg

[raw belfry]

Without using defensive abilities your not blocking these new styles dawg

[minor eagle]

there is a clear gap between miracles and the rarities below it

[lyric moss]

If you understand the basics of the play styles of the game it’s easy to beat everyone

[minor eagle]

that is NOT balanced

[lyric moss]

I can

[raw belfry]

You CANT catch up to ace dribble without an ability

[minor eagle]

this dude is just lying

lmao

ah yes

[raw belfry]

so you can catch up to ace w out an ability?

[minor eagle]

i can totally catch up to an ace drive with no abilities

[raw belfry]

js using the basic features of the game?

[lyric moss]

You do realize aoime Daiki was the fastest dude on the court in the anime and manga and is a speed dribbler for a reason

[opaque sparrow]

you are straying away from the point

[lyric moss]

You do realize zones exist like perfection

[minor eagle]

not the point

[raw belfry]

you do realize we play a game to have fun, not for it to be 1-1 w a show

[minor eagle]

we are talking about thw game

[raw belfry]

Aomine never fought cell from DBZ

[minor eagle]

not the anime

[opaque sparrow]

u can barely catch up if they start sprinting from your position up till the net

even speed zones dont stand a chance

[lyric moss]

If you play the game to have fun stop trying to balance everything like you said it’s turning out like blue lock rivals and nerfing everything to balance it will make it way faster like blue lock rivals

[minor eagle]

do you seriously think that a speed boost can catch up to a dribble that moves half court in less than two seconds

[raw belfry]

BIG DAWG blr is BAD

look at their latest update

Their balancing is dog crap

The game SHOULDNT be like blr

[lyric moss]

Yet you say to balance the game or else it will turn into blue lock rivals but nerfing in blue lock rivals killed the game way faster

[raw belfry]

even Chrollo is making fun of blr

[minor eagle]

hell no

blr got killed because it was unbalanced

not because it was balanced

blr balanced since when bro

stop talking out of your bum dawg

[opaque sparrow]

the game died because of bugs and bad balance decisions

[lyric moss]

Any style can be busted in blue lock rivals

[raw belfry]

it’s not the nerfs that killed it, it’s the greedy devs who js released a new rarity and gave like 10 lucky spins to the players and made the game horrible to play

[lyric moss]

Like rare chigri with a speed flow is busted in blr

[minor eagle]

all your points are garbage man

[lyric moss]

I’m fine with playing with styles like nagi and kurona that might me be as a gk main though

[minor eagle]

"just figure out every style"

[opaque sparrow]

this guy keeps straying away from the argument

im ngl

too many red herrings

[minor eagle]

except for the styles that have no definitive counters

emperor and its reach for example

[lyric moss]

Rember how people complained about kunigami look at it 1 update later with no nerfs not as much complaing becuase people learned and adapted to the play stlye of kunigami

[minor eagle]

because blr isnt

a game thats similar to this

lol

[opaque sparrow]

im still wondering why chrollo decided to put Clutch in the dust by making Gold an insanely better version of it

[minor eagle]

they put playmaker in the dust

with a ZONE bro

they powercrept it with a ZONE

[opaque sparrow]

true

[minor eagle]

mind you

[quasi fern]

pressure is so inconsistent

[lyric moss]

Becuase gold is a Miracle rairty the rarest of all of them and playmaker and clutch are epic and rare play styles

[quasi fern]

pmo

[minor eagle]

gold vision can take you from halfcourt to the paint

[lyric moss]

Of course gold is gonna be better then them

Play maker is still very good play style

[minor eagle]

not anymore

[lyric moss]

It still is good gang

[minor eagle]

its useless now that a zone does its entire thing

[opaque sparrow]

it could have been better without having to steal a legitimate move whilst also being better

[lyric moss]

Just not as good as other styles

[minor eagle]

as i said

obsolete

[lyric moss]

No

[minor eagle]

no reason to ever use playmaker when a zone does it better

[opaque sparrow]

nobody plays playmaker seriously

[lyric moss]

It’s still amazing if used right

[lyric moss]

Ummmmm

[opaque sparrow]

its one move that's pretty reliable was outshined

[minor eagle]

its still amazing if used right yes

but theres no reason to use it

[lyric moss]

I kinda use play maker still

[minor eagle]

when an entire zone

[lyric moss]

Same with phantom

[minor eagle]

does its thing

[opaque sparrow]

i said

seriously

[minor eagle]

but better

[opaque sparrow]

lmfao

[lyric moss]

Phantom is just fun with a star friend

[opaque sparrow]

playmaker's dribble is already unreliable

[raw belfry]

Bro the gold vision zone dribbles go further and faster than nutmeg

the gold vision flow is absolutely stupid

[minor eagle]

yes higher rarities are meant to be better but not meant to make lower rarities obsolete

[lyric moss]

I love using phantom ghost move and blocking their shots having them wondering what blocked their shot lol

[minor eagle]

yet thats what the game is doing

like no offense dawg your points genuinely suck and you havent proved anything yet

[lyric moss]

Same is empoer flow it has not been nerfed yet

[minor eagle]

emperor zone sucks

lol

[lyric moss]

No

[quasi fern]

in no way ev needs a nerf

[raw belfry]

Emperors zone is not as broken as gold vision

it still power creep tho

Since why would you use unbreakable

[minor eagle]

emperors zone isnt that good but its just unbreakable and street dribbler

in one

[raw belfry]

When emperor vision is js the same but w more dribble

[minor eagle]

• a gimmick

[lyric moss]

Of course it’s gonna get power creep it’s older then the new stuff meaning it’s not up to date as much

[opaque sparrow]

the only time unbreakable is useful is when you have jackpot steal paired with your normal steal

[raw belfry]

Do you like power creep?

[minor eagle]

so youre saying power creep is a good thing

[raw belfry]

Power creep is what a good dev should be avoiding btw

That’s not a good thing

[quasi fern]

I want to roll gold for ace man

[lyric moss]

Sometimes sometimes not

[minor eagle]

do you think powercreep is a good thing

[raw belfry]

there are ways to make new styles without having to make them broken man

[lyric moss]

Same I wanted gaint but it gave me gold so I’m not playing the game till next update and I’m buying more slots

[lyric moss]

True like tbh they need to first off run a week of coding and stuff then do another week of testing while having a dev do the tweaks and bug fixes and the other dev start working on the next update

Would make it seem like a week per update but in reality it would take around 2 weeks per update

[fallen kiln]

Checkpoint

[vapid arrow]

playmaker gets outdone by gold vision and nowadays with EVERYONE using emperor soon as you nutmeg u getting reached

[lyric moss]

Gold vision is a miracle rarity gang

[vapid arrow]

a flow shouldn't make a whole style worthless

also tbh everything is easy to get

[lyric moss]

I main phantom and play maker yet no gold or empoer has stopped me yet in ranked or public matches

[vapid arrow]

just afk world for like 3 days

[lyric moss]

Using sniper to counter empeor is fun

[vapid arrow]

how does sniper counter emperor

[lyric moss]

The 2 point move since it releases so fast the reach does not have time to react and grab the ball

[solid basalt]

Gold is worse than emperor what we talking abt?? The pressure ain’t even that good cuz most of the time unless the opponents are close to each other or ur teamate infront of one then the ball will go back to them and it can actually even help them score

[vapid arrow]

that move is easy to block normally

[solid basalt]

The dribble move I’ll agree it’s op

[vapid arrow]

unless you do some cheese with lightning dribble

[lyric moss]

Why you think I use sniper when facing empeor

I completely shut down one of their moves

[vapid arrow]

sniper is bad

[lyric moss]

No

[solid basalt]

Nah sniper + animalistic goes crazy

[lyric moss]

Not with animlaistic

[vapid arrow]

u can block

it

its blockable

[solid basalt]

almost immposible

[robust tundra]

a dribble thaat stuns 2 people? too crazy for 2v2

[lyric moss]

True I’m pretty sure you get out of the height range of normal block and empeor

[vapid arrow]

not really

if ur marking the sniper

its pretty easy

[robust tundra]

a passing move that stuns

#nerf gold

[vapid arrow]

not just 2

everyone in its path

[lyric moss]

True but then again empeor flow exist able to make someone miss a shot and even dunks are affected by it

[robust tundra]

what the

[solid basalt]

Emperor is still better than gold

[robust tundra]

u can pull the ball when someone is dunking

[vapid arrow]

maybe but i'd say barely

[solid basalt]

the pressure is trash and the passing is worse than emperor

[vapid arrow]

pressure can be good if you have teammates who know how to mark

[solid basalt]

cuz emperor atleast gives u zone and forces u to shoot

[vapid arrow]

then just intercept the pressure

[solid basalt]

My teamates don’t

[vapid arrow]

but that relies on decent teammates

[solid basalt]

actual idiots

[lyric moss]

I mean to be fair Akashi did surpass Nash at the end of the movie

[vapid arrow]

so its eh most of the time

[solid basalt]

the dribble move is the best move ngl

[fallen kiln]

Unfortunately my teammates don’t seem to know how to guard 💔 but ig that’s what I get for solo queuing all the time

[solid basalt]

if they nerf that then there’s no reason to ever use gold

emperor would js be better

[vapid arrow]

both emperor and gold need nerfs

for gold its just making the dribble stun 1 person

and for emperor its reach

[solid basalt]

tru doenst make sense to nerf blink like that and keep emperor’s reach

[vapid arrow]

and prob

ultimate pass

reduce the amount of flow this gives

[lyric moss]

Eh small nerfs not major nerfs

[solid basalt]

Nobody even uses ultimate pass cuz everyone’s an egoist

[lyric moss]

like make reach cooldown like 15 seconds longer

[lyric moss]

Honeslty buff the ultimate pass

[vapid arrow]

longer cd less duration

[solid basalt]

Woah

[vapid arrow]

and have some sort of queue or something to let the enemy know

[lyric moss]

Duration is fine

[vapid arrow]

the person has emperor reach toggled

[vapid arrow]

its like 8 seconds

thats long asf

[solid basalt]

Tryna make ultimate pass even better than needle pass even tho they the same rarity

[lyric moss]

Hmm make it 3 seconds with a 50 second cooldown in return for being able to jump for normal faints then popping the abittly right after block

[solid basalt]

Honestly js nerf the distance for emperor reach

[vapid arrow]

emperor reach : reduce the duration increase the cd and make it so when you toggle it the move cd doesn't start going down until you stop someone with emperor reach or the move ends

[solid basalt]

it reaches too far sometimes

[lyric moss]

Nah Akashi better

[solid basalt]

Bro how do they do emperor reach when they’re behind me??

[lyric moss]

I want the duration to be 3 seconds in return for being able to use it isnstanlty after a falling for a faint

[solid basalt]

yk when lock first released I thought intercept was bad, then they did blink and I was like it can’t get worse

it got worse

[vapid arrow]

ngl intercept was bad but at least it couldn't block shots

cus intercept u could just mash

at least for stuff like snatch block you could maybe bait it out

[solid basalt]

Yes tru there was nothing u could do abt intercept cuz they would js spam

[lyric moss]

Blink it ten times worse upon realse becuase no one knew how to counter blink and it could easier intercept passes but with empeor you kinda gotta guess on the reach plus it’s balanced for being released compared to blink move on perfection release

[solid basalt]

but blink was so bad

[devout hamlet]

i agree on scrapping pressure but i think yoink is like phantom tbh

[solid basalt]

Ye release blink was wild and everyone had it for some reason. Every ranked it’d js be block after block

forced everyone to js dunk

[lyric moss]

But with now at least empeor reach can be countered by styles like sniper 2 point shot or star or dunking moves

[solid basalt]

bro I try to dunk but do a lay up and it gets blocked

Why is he blocking a lay up??

[lyric moss]

You gotta make your camera fling all around to dunk becuase the hit box is constnstly moving

Then

[solid basalt]

All I gotta say is that if they nerf gold and keep emperor as is I’m crashing out

[minor eagle]

nerf both icl

lmao

[lyric moss]

I only have emperor to arua farm lol

[robust tundra]

bro nerf goold

[lyric moss]

Honelst hear me out master class styles like blue lock rivals but chances will be 5% for generation of miralces on lucky spins and 1% for this on lucky spins

But the newest style would be something called custom

[robust tundra]

how is gold not broken 💔

[lyric moss]

Where you can take your other styles you owned in your slots and take one of their moves from each category

[robust tundra]

how is pressure even allowed

did the gold provoke us or smth

[lyric moss]

Like let’s say you wanted perfection blink then you could not take a move like gaint defense move or empoer reach

[robust tundra]

💔

[robust tundra]

nerf gv also

gold vision force dunk range is too op ngl

gold is way too op bruh

a drive that literally stuns everyone in its path

what else

a move that pulls the balll

a passing move that stuns???

how did the devs think these were balanced

[opaque sparrow]

jackpot magnetic pull:

[minor eagle]

i mean

thats an awakening move

locked behind rng

and requires the ball to be released

[robust tundra]

ye

[minor eagle]

unlike gold where

you can just walk up to them

pressure regardless of iframes or dribbles

send them back to square 1

with a cooldown thats under a minute btw

[robust tundra]

ye

[digital rivet]

I wanna join this yappathon!

[fallen kiln]

Checkpoint

Goodnight yall

[vapid arrow]

omg

this is a good start

[minor eagle]

THANK YOU

[vapid arrow]

finally

emperor still gonna be stupid but at least

im not getting hit by like

[minor eagle]

AFTER TWO WEEKS

[vapid arrow]

8 reaches

so i'll take that i guess

and pressure didn't really fit nash anyways

so removing it and replacing it is probably a good call

just depends what they replace it with

but this looks good

not gonna have too high of hopes tho cus its chrollo but 😴

[lyric moss]

You do realize reach can’t stop dunks so a perfect nerf instead would be tbh a speed nerf where your slower slightly meaning if you run a full court by the time a person runs full court you will be hafe way meaning you get a speed nerf by 50% and you should gain a arua tint of your zone color to let the enemy know they can go and dunk

[vapid arrow]

the issue is not it stopping threes

the issue for me is them using it to intercept passes

[lyric moss]

That’s not the issue for me he done it in the anime

And the manga

To midorima

When he was going for his shot form when his teamate passes to him

[vapid arrow]

no im saying thats why reach is so good

cus of it intercepting passes

[torpid shore]

insane gut

love it

[primal mason]

Gold is balanced imo its just really easy to defend too, it has 2 passes and one dribble whit a long cooldown what else do you guys want to nerf bruh

acting as if it isnt a miracle style, at the moment it should be mythic for how it is

Do i need you to remember how akashi was on release and is still as of right now? Im grateful chrollo didnt make it as braindead as emperor

[lyric moss]

@vapid arrow

Watch the vid

[raw belfry]

@vapid arrow shut up

[vapid arrow]

I know that he's done it I'm saying why emperor reach is so strong because people use it against passes 80% of the time

[vapid arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[wild skiff]

So we getting pressure nerf

[raw belfry]

No gng we getting it removed

😂

[lyric moss]

Just make it so we can dribble pressure

[raw belfry]

W Chrollo

Bandaid fix on emperor but still right direction

[vapid arrow]

Replaced with something else

[lyric moss]

Pressure tbh should instead allow you to push someone back instead off of their shot course meaning you can mess their shots up making them miss

[wild skiff]

Thank god the game will be more playable

[vapid arrow]

Pressure doesn't fit nash tbh so I don't mind but I alr know the replacement finna be broken

[lyric moss]

You sir got a goated profile w

[raw belfry]

yeah

[lyric moss]

Just give him the abittlys to trash talk which debuffs the enemy

[wild skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-curry-nba-legends-golden-state-warriors-steph-curry-gif-26163672

[torpid shore]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-basketball-slip-gif-15825240

[wild skiff]

YOOOOOO CHILLLL

[torpid shore]

chat, pull up the airball

[robust tundra]

a dribble that stuns everyone in its path?

[fallen kiln]

Praise.

The.

Lord.

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

[rustic slate]

We rejoice

Finally something is getting touched

[minor eagle]

pause

[rustic slate]

No pause.

[fallen kiln]

[fallen kiln]

⁉️⁉️🤯

At last I can get rid of this post (hopefully)

The move they replace pressure with better actually be balanced 💔

[barren cliff]

proof enough the he doesnt acc play his game

[rustic slate]

Better not have to wait until friday for them to implement this I WANT IT RIGHT NOW

[barren cliff]

he only realized just now how annoying it is

[rustic slate]

Man must of just hopped on td fr

[barren cliff]

even in concept it sounds annoying

[pure citrus]

Full court 3 point

[fallen kiln]

Bro is not jackpot

[wild wren]

Yeah emp shouldn’t be a style and every other style needs a major buff

[fallen kiln]

On me

[barren cliff]

chrollo pls give pressure defense to fetch

🙏

[wild wren]

No

Fetch is trash

Let it be trash

[barren cliff]

why

[fallen kiln]

💀

Checkpoint just in case

Also for anyone wondering, no I’ve never watched knb which is why the pressure replacement likely has nothing at all to do with Nash 😭

If anyone has any suggestions for a balanced move that Nash actually does in the anime, please tell me

[fierce ermine]

aw hell nah ur suggestion for pressure is even worse bro

can be ankle broken is all i needed to see

anyways for the pass i think to match emperor style the pass should be able to lead to scoring like when Nash passed to silver and he dunked it on murasakibara

[fallen kiln]

Oh yeah let’s just make a steal move that works 100% of the time

So balanced

[fallen kiln]

Isn’t that literally what the gold’s flow is for

@minor eagle get a load of this guy

[minor eagle]

so uh

instead of forced shot

a reverse dunk

[fierce ermine]

Yes

[fallen kiln]

What for gold?

[minor eagle]

get out dawg

[fierce ermine]

Yes actually that's exactly what I'm saying

[idle trail]

he isn’t op he doesn’t have a shooting move a mid dribble move and two passes and a amazing defensive move

[fallen kiln]

[fierce ermine]

And you can use that same zone for every other style in the game

[idle trail]

discords autocheck made me say dribble I ment defensive

[fierce ermine]

So what makes the pass special 🥀

[fierce ermine]

Is that not exactly what emperor does if timed right

[fallen kiln]

I’m saying that there’s no point of adding a pass like that to the style when there’s literally a flow for it

[fierce ermine]

Bro then what's the point of having two zones that both give unblockable dunks

[fallen kiln]

Yes, and that move is dumb too but this is a post abt gold, not emperor

[restive onyx]

Gold style is not broken he’s completely balanced you’re just complaining because you’re horrible at the game

[fallen kiln]

Ask devs, not me 😂

[fallen kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/geeb-bruh-really-are-you-serious-gif-20129962

[restive onyx]

i’m playing

i’m joking

[fallen kiln]

I sure hope so

[restive onyx]

i’m really joking don’t worry

[fierce ermine]

Honestly right I think either nerf emperor or make gold better specifically talking about the defensive moves

[fallen kiln]

Or maybe just nerf both cause they’re both unbalanced 💔

[fierce ermine]

Emperor is more unbalanced than gold rn 🥀

So gold better be nerfed less 🥹 💔

[fallen kiln]

So you admit they’re both unbalanced, thank you

[fierce ermine]

Yes but that's the point right

They're supposed to be miracles

If miracles can't perform the impossible than no one can

Think about that

Like if u rare then ig u gon have abilities

They just ain't gon be good

[fallen kiln]

Oh here we go w the rarity thing 🤦🏽‍♂️
There’s a clear line between making styles that are better than the other rarities and straight up op

And stupid

[fierce ermine]

Yes

I feel u unc

[fallen kiln]

Idm that miracle styles are better than the other rarities

But you don’t just make some dumb ahh style

[fierce ermine]

What I'm saying is a higher rarity will obviously mean a better style

[fallen kiln]

Yes

But like these miracles are TOO much better

[fierce ermine]

Ok not to be a neek or anything

But like

Miracles are twice as rare as a mythic

Which are four times more rare than legendary

But that's where there's a big diff

Cuz it jumps to 35% from 2%

U catch my drift

[eternal pewter]

duh

emp dribble is a good example of that

its a great move

the pass as well

but reach goes a little too far imo

[fierce ermine]

I think that's the general opinion bruh

The dribbling and the pass is good but the defense is like

Also they sort of nerfed alr bcos they both don't have a shooting ability

[storm ravine]

Hmmm

[sharp thunder]

took chrollo long enough to nerf these styles wow

[storm ravine]

Just remove gold and bring back basketball god for 2 days so I can get it

[winter wren]

Why

Bbgod sucks

[fallen kiln]

Checkpoint

[paper hill]

Hes reworking pressure and giving emp reach a GC we won

or so he says

[fallen kiln]

Real

[fallen kiln]

For anyone wondering, I’m keeping this post up just in case the pressure replacement ends up needing a nerf too

[opal lantern]

Ehhh iekkk

Wait

The dribble is broken

Tbh I have good

Gold

Ion really care what they do wit it

[storm ravine]

Cause the moves are cooler imo

[winter wren]

Sure ig

But yk. They suck.

[storm ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-cool-entrance-cool-entrance-basketball-gif-25262685

Yea

[fallen kiln]

[idle trail]

2k comments for 54 likes 😭

[fallen kiln]

Lots of convos with braindead people trying to be right lol

[idle trail]

makes sense

[raw jay]

Fr

I genuinely can't under stand people who are out here arguing like ts is balanced

[fallen kiln]

Onb

[raw jay]

Like forget the huge dribble that spans across Africa all the way to laughtale, forget the pass which is stupid broken the defense move is by far the most anoying thing in the kit

It has less startup then the ace dash

That's how you know its bs

It also the the range of intercontinental missile

And at least in my experience I can't seem to dribble off it

Legit ruins any 1v1

[fallen kiln]

Africa to Laugh Tale 😭

We switchin realities

Dribbling into fiction

[raw jay]

It got me heated 😤

And the flow...

[fallen kiln]

Idm the pass, I’m a huge fan of any passing ability

[raw jay]

Yo chrollo must be living in california coz bro is SMOKING ENTIRE PALM TREES when he made the zone

[fallen kiln]

Higher than Snoop Dogg on a Saturday evening

[raw jay]

Higher then the queen of England

Higher then the pearly gates themselves

Higher then mihawk upscale

Coz yo

[fallen kiln]

💀

[raw jay]

This flow might be the most broken thing in the history of this game

[eternal pewter]

i dont know what you're talking bout

[raw jay]

Besides maybe cell on release this zone is stupid

This zone is cheating

[fallen kiln]

It is but they ain’t nerfing ts

[raw jay]

Ik but they definitely should

[raw jay]

Ts chrollo when he made the zone

Like genuinely forget the style even tho it's bad

The zone needs to be DELETED FROM THIS GAME

It has no right to exist in the same plane.of existence as thy 🙏

[eternal pewter]

😭

[raw jay]

It's vile presence makes thy's excellence puke at such an abhorrent monstrosity

Truly a Shakespearian monstrosity

[fallen kiln]

Its* thy*

Jokes, don’t touch me 💔

[raw jay]

Fixed it

[fallen kiln]

I just peeped your pfp

W

[raw jay]

Yea idk who this guy is but ever since I went to his office my teeth have never been this white

Altough I did notice things tend to stick to my teeth alot

[tough bronze]

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[raw jay]

I think it's a byproduct

[fallen kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/geeb-bruh-really-are-you-serious-gif-20129962

Ay hollon twin…

[raw jay]

I'm holding on twin

Nah fr the zone makes me feel like the women he delivers pizza to

It makes me feel the women with the cloged toilet

Coz with the gold zone

[fallen kiln]

Ayo… 😭

[raw jay]

UK I'm getting f'ed

[fallen kiln]

😭

[raw jay]

I genuinely think this zone should get like a idk a prime yba kc level level nerf

This should be nerfed out of existence

The style you could at least use some other op thing

But the zone?

After the overall pass rework it's a must

[eternal pewter]

wait which zone

[raw jay]

Gold zone

Gold vision*

[wild flame]

da hell are u guys complaining about, every time a new style drops everyone say it is broken, even the bbg god that is so bad , so many broken styles than gold in the game rn, like ace or emperor

[raw jay]

Which should all be nerfed as well?

This isn't a "oh evreything is op therefor no one is op" type of situation. All of the three styles you mentioned promote unfun playstyles

[fallen kiln]

Bbg ain’t broken, it’s just buns ngl

I got rid of it cause it was so buns

[tough bronze]

Only good move is the guarenteed dunk move and ult

Thats bout it

[fallen kiln]

Exactly

Dribble was more inconsistent than Marcus Rashford at Man U

[tough bronze]

I prefer giving assists with phantom

[fallen kiln]

I love assisting

I got 2k+

[tough bronze]

Same

[tough bronze]

I woildve gotten liken 40 in 2 lesgue matches

But assists

[fallen kiln]

Phantom tech is hard to do on console though 💔

[tough bronze]

Are broken

So

[tough bronze]

Wdym tech

[fallen kiln]

Aw that sucks

[fallen kiln]

Where they bounce the ball off the wall, go phantom and the ball auto passes

[raw jay]

Ace with its insane speed that no style except for star and the perfection tp can keep up with, emperor with the single most brainrot move in the game, along with a dribble that locks you in place and a free pass. And now gold with even stronger passes, a defensive move with 0 startup or endlag, a dribble move that sends you from Africa to laughtale to type soul wanden like all of these need nerfs

[tough bronze]

Wall bounce is illegal in leagues

[fallen kiln]

I wish all my buttons didn’t have uses so I can do keybinds for passing to teammates

[tough bronze]

So it dont rlly matter for me

I mostly play leagues

[fallen kiln]

Oh damn

[tough bronze]

More competitive

[fallen kiln]

I respect it

I just play ranked

[tough bronze]

I dont like ranked cz of the toxicity

[eternal pewter]

who woulda known

[tough bronze]

LOL

[fallen kiln]

Hopefully it gets a lot less… annoying after this emp and gold nerf

[raw jay]

Holy shoutout

[wild flame]

yes I know, but I don't see anyone complaining about others

[tough bronze]

You should try to play leagues

Its fun to play vs teams with full 100 ovrs

[fallen kiln]

Idc abt the toxicity, im jus tired of these op styles dominating 😭

[raw jay]

Welp I guess that's my sign to open a suggestion to nerf all three

[tough bronze]

Most starters are champ

I dont play ranked

But im starter in most

[fallen kiln]

I’d get fried 💔

[tough bronze]

Not if ur a good passer

[fallen kiln]

I’m not that good

[wild flame]

bro, ace's dribble is almost a cross map

[tough bronze]

Ive started 1 month ago

Or less

[fallen kiln]

Oh W

[tough bronze]

And i get 14-20 assists a game

[fallen kiln]

Holy

[tough bronze]

And i got rated S by a former top eu team starter

[raw jay]

That's why it should be nerfed toi

Too*

[fallen kiln]

W

I like to consider myself a nasty jackpot user

Especially when I lock in

[wild flame]

I don't think gold is broken, he has two passing skills and his stealing ability is not that good and many times the ball falls into the enemy's hands

[tough bronze]

The reason i get rated this good and so many assists cause i got 0 ego

Im sometimes free and i see them rushing to me

I shoot and pass

Pump fake

Not likr fake and pass

[eternal pewter]

passing skills can still be broken

[tough bronze]

Pass while shooting

Pump faked all 3

[fallen kiln]

Yeah ik

Lol

[tough bronze]

And than my teamate gets the ball

Fully free and scores

[fallen kiln]

I need to start doing that, cause I just pass regularly

[tough bronze]

And than sometimes

[wild flame]

u can just pass btw, the passes dont do nothing special like emperor's pass that is guaranteed 3 pointer

[tough bronze]

When my bullet pass is rdy

I tell my team in team chat to run to the corner

So i start dribbling people

I fake them

Giant jumps up

Bc he thinks im outta shoot

And i use bullet pass

And bam assist

[fallen kiln]

W

[raw jay]

I disagree heavily on the steal. It lacks any startup or endlag.

[fallen kiln]

😂😂😂

[raw jay]

An unblockable pass is by nature a very strong ability

[tough bronze]

I also tend to go to the corner alone

So they come to mark me

But i alr got a pass

[raw jay]

I forgot about all the bad preformences and only remembered the good ones

[tough bronze]

But than i go phantom

Before it gets to me

[raw jay]

Man he was insane when he locked in

[tough bronze]

And another assist in the bag

[fallen kiln]

Onb

Unfortunately his most memorable moment was his free kick and a lot of people don’t remember him for much else

Roberto Carlos is also mostly known for his free kick but like he’s known for more too

[raw jay]

True

[raw jay]

That's... a pretty good comparison holy

[fallen kiln]

I wasn’t trying to compare them

I was just sayin that

It’s not impossible to be known for more than an awesome free kick

[tough bronze]

Why are we talking in a suggestion tho

[fallen kiln]

Declan Rice is a very bad example, I’ve never heard his name outside of those two free kicks he scored

[fallen kiln]

Why not

[tough bronze]

True

[fallen kiln]

Everyone does it

[tough bronze]

Bc than chrollo wont find ur message

Ur thkng

[prisma veldt]

GOLD NEEDS NERFS URGENTLY AND PRESSURE ABILITY NEEDS REWORK 😭😭😭🙏

[fallen kiln]

And then you have Andrea Pirlo who is known for more

[tough bronze]

On packg9d

[fallen kiln]

Not if he hasn’t seen it already

[tough bronze]

Did he?

[fallen kiln]

If he hasn’t seen it already, then it’ll automatically send him to the top

[fallen kiln]

Idk

But speaking of

Checkpoint

[tough bronze]

Its 4 am in a school night

Am i fried

[fallen kiln]

Lock in get your 2 hours of sleep buddy 😭

You live in Europe or Africa?

[tough bronze]

Nah id stay awake 24/7

[tough bronze]

Europe

[fallen kiln]

Which country

[tough bronze]

Belgium

[fallen kiln]

Bonsoir

[tough bronze]

They also fspeak dutch and german

Im in the dutch side

[fallen kiln]

I’m aware

[fallen kiln]

Ah

Idk any Dutch unfortunately

[tough bronze]

Hallo means hello

[fallen kiln]

Gut nicht

[fallen kiln]

Oh so it’s the same as German

[tough bronze]

Thats german

💔

[tough bronze]

No

[fallen kiln]

Ik ik, but they’re very close

[tough bronze]

Some words are

Some arenr

[fallen kiln]

I meant hallo

[tough bronze]

Oh

Yh

Jesus 2k messages

[fallen kiln]

Obviously, they’re different languages for a reason 😭

[tough bronze]

How did u find ur original message

😭

[fallen kiln]

Earlier checkpoints

Checkpoint

I started putting checkpoints in here yesterday

When there weren’t as many messages

I still had to scroll for a good minute though

[tough bronze]

Oh

Lmao

[fallen kiln]

Yeah

[tough bronze]

U should lowk get into leagues

Their rlly fun

[fallen kiln]

Maybe

[tough bronze]

I can give u some and u can join the team i main

[fallen kiln]

I’m reluctant because if I do trash in a game I actually have to take criticism 💔

Whereas in ranked I just swap teammates lol

[tough bronze]

Nah

Some teams are really supportive

Ull js get subbed out and they will say dw or smth

[mortal cape]

Its trash ability ngl

i hope they rework it

pressure*

[fallen kiln]

Oh nice

[thin pagoda]

Pressure is not trash it’s and extremely busted move that has no GOBAL

[tough bronze]

Gold is trash but prssure is op

U can bypass iframes btw

[thin pagoda]

People are Js using pressure wrong

[tough bronze]

U can use it on ace awk dribble

Thats how op it is

[tough bronze]

Keyword: SOME

[thin pagoda]

U only use pressure when there not dribbling have no dribbles or pump fakes

[fallen kiln]

Right

I’m going to bed

[tough bronze]

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[tough bronze]

Aight gn

[thin pagoda]

If u use it wrong ur just gonna pass to the opponent

[fallen kiln]

If anyone feels like it, please put a checkpoint before you go

[fallen kiln]

Later dawg

[tough bronze]

K wait

[tough bronze]

Cya

Check point

[fallen kiln]

W mans

[mortal cape]

yeah that why its bun its no brainer ability

with a crap big range like bro it can even move ball from ace while using ability

[raw jay]

BUMP THIS COMMENT

Btw iv posted a balancing suggestion which has like 2,8k words

Enjoy the yapfast if yall want

[dapper totem]

aint that for phantom

[idle trail]

You mean king von she’s in hell Saint von isn’t

[raw jay]

True

[wicked slate]

no

street dribbler is fine how it is

the whole point is to drop everyone

[tough bronze]

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[wild wren]

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[fierce ermine]

I think chrollo alr said sum abt this in one of the channels

abt pressure rework and reach CD

like he said sum about global cd so after one players uses theres gon be 20s before another player can use again

[wind scaffold]

that’s right

[fallen kiln]

So balanced

[fierce ermine]

if all ur gonna do is be sarcastic when someone says something then whats the point of starting this

how do we know that ur not being sarcastic in the OP

U actually think that Gold doesnt need a nerf

in fact it needs to be boosted

[wicked slate]

make it make sense, how they finna change up golds move but not ace??

ace quite literally moves from one half to the other

i get the whole dropping 2 people part, should prob be changed to just 1 but other than that ur whole suggestion is js tryna make him unplayable

[wind scaffold]

honestly now that I rolled gold and started using it pressure is not that bad

the dribble lowk bugged asf

though

[fierce ermine]

Ya

Sometimes u try to use elbow pass and u just straight up freeze

[minor eagle]

yea

[subtle spire]

I think pressure is a cool ability it just shouldnt bypass ankle breaks

Its like a pretty unique ability with cool counterplay and adds a bit more complexity

But if theres 3 golds spamming it every game and it goes through everything its just annoying

Id rather it be changed than removed but both r better than what we have now

[frosty meadow]

all gold is ment to do it pass and give your turn overs bc pressure is the most inconsistent ability ever made

[fierce ermine]

dude gold isnt meant to be a steal if it was then bypassing ankle breaks is a problem

but in this case if you just read the name

it says "PRESSURE"

pressuring the opponent

like dawg its not that deep

[fallen kiln]

Don’t ask me, ask the devs. I’m not the one constantly putting out op styles 😂

[fierce ermine]

dawg u ong be copy pasting these replies atp how do we known u aint a robot or sum

[fallen kiln]

Because it’s different people saying the same stupid stuff

[fierce ermine]

I feel u

[fallen kiln]

Why would I come up with something different if they all say the same stuff

[fierce ermine]

js dont reply bruh

like u aint obligated to reply dawg u said ur piece alr

[fallen kiln]

Nahhh, I like making idiots feel like idiots

[fierce ermine]

or just activate ur bankai🥶

freeze everybody

[fallen kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/rukia-kuchiki-rukia-bankai-hakka-no-togame-bleach-gif-10722503196901083904

[fierce ermine]

ts would be so majestic

[fallen kiln]

Real

Or I might swap to a Gojo pfp

[fierce ermine]

dang

[fallen kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[fierce ermine]

ts stronger than the grow a garden flashbang whenever u gone for a while

[fallen kiln]

💀

How fun is grow a garden

I’ve never played

Checkpoint

[eternal pewter]

they are

[eternal pewter]

💀

he listening tho, although it looks like ace dribble is here to stay

[subtle spire]

Bypassing ankle breaks itself isnt a problem imo but the fact it works on moves that have ankle breaks is insane

Like if i use lucky bounce, i now lose my move, followup and ball and have to wait longer than gold has to for pressure to just have it happen again

Itd also be fine if the ball didnt fly across the court 50% of the time

Cuz when u use a dribble move ull prob be further away from it if no one catches it

I like the moves idea but the fact its so spammable makes any cool teamplay or counterplay irrelevant

[fierce ermine]

Ic wym

But imagine if pressure had a longer cooldown

[minor eagle]

it bugs your follow ups as well

its annoying lol

[fierce ermine]

Who the hell would want to use it💔

[fierce ermine]

But yea it's low-key annoying if that happens

But I'm pretty sure it doesn't bypass all moves

Cos sometimes I use pressure and nothing happens but my cool down resets for example against a dribbling move like athletic drive

[minor eagle]

it bypasses everything

even athletic drive

even 100% drive

[fierce ermine]

What

Oh wait no I mean the shot

I forgor what it's called

[pliant compass]

Well if the style actually worked half the time your take would be valid

[fierce ermine]

It doesn't stop the fade

[subtle spire]

Idk I think its just a problem rn cuz theres so many gold/copycat users

[pliant compass]

But considering it’s bugged rn nerfing it wouldn’t make sense

[fierce ermine]

Tbh like yea

[subtle spire]

so theres more pressure than any other move

[minor eagle]

it does

although

i have seen

it not work on missile

[fierce ermine]

Missile is unblockable

So like

[pliant compass]

The style itself also is still worse than emperors reach’s and emperor as a whole

[minor eagle]

imo i agree

that dribble that stuns anyone in its range

[subtle spire]

true but emperor is such an anomoly

[minor eagle]

is the dumbest thing ever lol

[subtle spire]

or wtv

[fallen kiln]

It ain’t my fault the devs wait a full week to make their game playable for certain styles

[minor eagle]

emperor genuinely broke the games meta

[pliant compass]

You physically get glitched when activating moves which doesn’t happen with any other move

[fierce ermine]

💔

[minor eagle]

😭

reach not only takes the ball away from you

[subtle spire]

the dribble is so dumb it shouldnt stun everyone lit 0 counterplay instead of staying behind on ur own half of the court

[minor eagle]

but will also bug your moves sometimes

[pliant compass]

Stating this when other styles like animalistic and shooter style combo is broken is crazy

[minor eagle]

by the way

the range is insane on it

i saw a dude

use street dribble on the 3 point line

[pliant compass]

Ima be honest gold is the most easily counterable mythic

[subtle spire]

it lit goes quarter court or something

[minor eagle]

i was around half court and still got stunned

the stun range is insane for it

[fallen kiln]

I’ll say it again since clearly you didn’t read what I said

It ain’t my fault the devs wait a full week to make their game playable for certain styles

[subtle spire]

for real

[pliant compass]

Yea your stating to nerf a style that’s broken

[subtle spire]

the devs needa spend like 3 weeks playtesting and fixing bugs

[pliant compass]

Ik a sense it doesn’t work half the time

[subtle spire]

or have public playtests so people find bugs faster and dont cry when its broken

[pliant compass]

I’m more concerned with the animalistic zone and Shooter style combo that’s an unbreakable three from anywhere

[rustic slate]

Being?

Also "make their game playable" means fixing bugs and nerfs btw

[fierce ermine]

Bro let's be honest literally nobody is using sniper rn

If anything gold and emperor are bigger issues

[pliant compass]

Aye bro if more people knew about that combo rn the game meta would be way more broken cause its free asf

[rustic slate]

That combo is blockable btw

[fierce ermine]

Ya ik how it works

It's keyword almost unblockable

[fallen kiln]

And if and when they fix it. Guess what? It’s gonna need that nerf

[fierce ermine]

Yea exactly

[pliant compass]

We still got ace, emperor that are ten times as broken rn

[fallen kiln]

Two bad things shouldn’t compensate for each other, they should fix the style and nerf it

[fierce ermine]

Ya but nobody is saying those styles don't have to be nerfed

[pliant compass]

Gold is mid it’s not op pressure sends the ball to enemy teams half the time so I don’t understand that arguement

[steep grail]

It’s really not that op

[fierce ermine]

No what they're saying rn is that the problem with pressure is that it works even if ur using a move

[pliant compass]

If you play 3v3’s u have to be extremely lucky to get a bounce to your side

[fierce ermine]

Not a reg dribble

[steep grail]

If they do nerf gold let it just be a bit more cooldown on pressure

[pliant compass]

Yes but my point stands why does it even matter if the move still helps your opponent with a basically free pass to a teammate

I’ve seen it in ranked it’s mid

[rustic slate]

It can be a guaranteed steal combined with emperor's reach

[fierce ermine]

Which is why chrollo literally said he might change it

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No I use it in ranked it's not mid