#Gold Nerfs

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fallen kiln
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What y’all think?

sage elm
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No this is bad gold isn’t the best style

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Personally me I think they’re better style’s then gold he needs a rework or buff

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And he’s miracle he’s supposed to be good

fallen kiln
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Nowhere in my suggestion did I state that it’s the best style

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Good and op are two different things

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Gold is op

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Not good

sage elm
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When I mean the best he’s like okay he should’ve been a mythic

glass fox
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you clearly dont have gold

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pressure is trash

fallen kiln
glass fox
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it passes to the opp teammate

fallen kiln
fallen kiln
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But notice how I didn’t say anything about that, I said the problem was the range

sage elm
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He isn’t op he’s good

glass fox
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emperor better

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most people talking abt it doesnt even know what pressure do

sage elm
glass fox
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they saying "pressure just pops the ball out"

glass fox
sage elm
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He actually imo needs a rework or a buff

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To be better as a miracle

fallen kiln
glass fox
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dude my friend with gold is just helping the opp atp

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all he has is dribble and passing

sage elm
glass fox
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pressure is just utter trash

fallen kiln
glass fox
sage elm
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A quarter is not the hole court

glass fox
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this is buns bro compare it to emperors reach

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it can stop literal ace

sage elm
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And the fact emperor reach can still be used against gold

fallen kiln
glass fox
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mb typed the wrong stuff

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emperors reach*

sage elm
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He needs a rework or passive we’re he can’t get intercepted by any abilities

glass fox
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use emperor then gold you will notice the difference

fallen kiln
glass fox
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its rn worse than emperor

sage elm
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He’s basically another legendary or a mythic

fallen kiln
glass fox
fallen kiln
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Wdym still? 😭

glass fox
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that still doesnt make it broken

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💀 wdym bro

sage elm
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It’s not broken it’s bad

fallen kiln
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Yeah you man are having a laugh, I’ll catch yall later lmao

glass fox
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💀 what laugh

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check suggestions

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pressure buff got more reacts than this

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🥀

sage elm
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Gold needs a buff or a rework case closed🫩

cosmic thorn
fallen kiln
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Probably cause everyone is in there typing about why it should or shouldn’t get buffed

cosmic thorn
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people hate this game

sage elm
glass fox
sage elm
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Fr

fallen kiln
fallen kiln
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Cause it’s not balanced

glass fox
glass fox
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emperor is far broken

cosmic thorn
sage elm
cosmic thorn
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its broken in some aspects and needs buffs in others

fallen kiln
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I think emp and gold are both stupid tbh

glass fox
cosmic thorn
fallen kiln
cosmic thorn
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game's choosing the blr route

glass fox
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ricetea at least talks with logic

sage elm
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Right

fallen kiln
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You just say that cause he half agrees with you 💀

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That’s a biased statement

cosmic thorn
glass fox
sage elm
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Bsfr gold does not need a nerf he needs buff case closed

glass fox
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he did say sum needs to be nerfed

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sum needs to be buffed

fallen kiln
glass fox
sage elm
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Hope this helps goodbye

fallen kiln
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Then ig case ain’t closed is it

fallen kiln
glass fox
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zai leme jus say

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like ricetea said

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some needs to be nerfed

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sum needs to be buffed

fallen kiln
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Type shi

glass fox
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you are the dumbas now

fallen kiln
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I’m alright with that lol

glass fox
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im out

fallen kiln
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I’m sure you have better things to do than to argue with a dumbas right?

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So go on

fallen kiln
glass fox
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whos talking with bro later 😭

fallen kiln
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Why’re you still here?

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I thought you were out?

grand phoenix
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half my games are literally just chasing the ball they need to nerf pressure

fallen kiln
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See this guy gets it

pallid skiff
winter wren
pallid skiff
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I saw ts go through ace

fallen kiln
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Finally, the not brain dead players have arrived

winter wren
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Imo its better than emp

fallen kiln
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Lowkey

winter wren
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If you use pressure right. Its just a better reach

glass fox
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lwky remove the iframes bypass

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remove the auto enemy pass too

pallid skiff
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If your team actually plays the game

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It goes to your team

glass fox
fallen kiln
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Ion think it’s auto enemy pass cause most of the time the ball just flies to the other side of the court

pallid skiff
glass fox
pallid skiff
glass fox
pallid skiff
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should happen

winter wren
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So literally just line urself up

pallid skiff
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If your opponent

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not even opponent tms

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use their brain

winter wren
pallid skiff
glass fox
minor eagle
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i dont care honestly

winter wren
pallid skiff
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desperately

minor eagle
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devs dont care

winter wren
pallid skiff
winter wren
minor eagle
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they wont nerf emp and they sure as hell wont nerf this

pallid skiff
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Meant your tms

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He’s your brain next time

glass fox
fallen kiln
pallid skiff
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better than emperor

fallen kiln
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Lemme see

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The dribble drops more people

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And takes your further

minor eagle
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pressure happens way more often than reach

dreamy inlet
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gold is too op

minor eagle
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its very annoying

fallen kiln
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There are a couple of reasons why Gold is better than emp

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Not like miles better

dreamy inlet
glass fox
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still

fallen kiln
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But just better

glass fox
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compare emperors steal with golds steal

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golds steal is basically annoying but not game changer

fallen kiln
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The steal itself is obviously better, but the range of pressure is dumb

dreamy inlet
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gold's pressure should be used for interrupt

fallen kiln
dreamy inlet
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make it 60s cd ggs

glass fox
dreamy inlet
fallen kiln
glass fox
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first we have moves which directly steals

fallen kiln
glass fox
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then theres this where i dont steal is

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pressure is not a steal

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its a deflect which deflects to opps teammate

minor eagle
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because it

fallen kiln
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That’s not the point gang. What YOU said was that pressure isn’t a game changer but you were also complaining that and I quote “it happens 95% of the time”

minor eagle
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invalidates possession

dreamy inlet
minor eagle
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with no conditions

dreamy inlet
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u can use giant to easily counter gold

glass fox
minor eagle
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you literally can just walk

fallen kiln
minor eagle
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and deny possession

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much easier than reach can

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mind you

glass fox
dreamy inlet
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the snatch gng

fallen kiln
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Who really lost the argument

dreamy inlet
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imagine 5 giants on the same team

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still annoying

fallen kiln
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I’d delete Roblox

grand phoenix
fallen kiln
dreamy inlet
fallen kiln
dreamy inlet
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u can't score against 5 giants

glass fox
grand phoenix
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it just launches the ball

grand phoenix
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and the drive they have is dumb too

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why does it stun the entire team and go half court

dreamy inlet
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everything would be nightmare if we keep spamming it

glass fox
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why this is so debatable is cuz

dreamy inlet
glass fox
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they made some aspects so much good and other aspects bad

dreamy inlet
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too unfair

glass fox
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thas why sum stuffs needs to be buffed and some needs to be nerfed

grand phoenix
dreamy inlet
grand phoenix
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like they nerfed ace just to re buff it

glass fox
glass fox
dreamy inlet
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like lorenzo's golden defense (ye the court is smaller so kind of jeez)

grand phoenix
grand phoenix
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you force the pass then a teammate steals it

glass fox
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the ball deflects from the opp used on from that opps teammate

mossy veldt
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street dribble doesnt even take you out of the paint hell it doesnt even take you to the free throw line its carried by pressure and the ult its pretty mid all in all

glass fox
dreamy inlet
grand phoenix
dreamy inlet
grand phoenix
dreamy inlet
mossy veldt
grand phoenix
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and it stuns the entire team

dreamy inlet
mossy veldt
dreamy inlet
mossy veldt
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this is how far it goes

dreamy inlet
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remove/nerf stuns and pressure

mossy veldt
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it aint all that

grand phoenix
dreamy inlet
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all good

dreamy inlet
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remove the stuns

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ggs

mossy veldt
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pretty sure kagamis dribble goes farther

fallen kiln
livid crystal
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Style needs a buff its nothing amazing tbh id say copycat ace negs gold style

fallen kiln
livid crystal
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The awakening is op toh

mossy veldt
mossy veldt
grand phoenix
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unrelated note, did anyone get a message saying you can watch an ad in game for cash

surreal spade
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Pressure is too op it can go through dribbles which is so annoying

mossy veldt
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its 2 dunks

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it aint all that

jagged dust
fallen kiln
mossy veldt
jagged dust
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Even ult skills

surreal spade
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I know

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Too op

livid crystal
dreamy inlet
fallen kiln
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Because people complain about emp’s dribble all the time and if street dribble takes you further than that, I get to complain about it

fallen kiln
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That too

mossy veldt
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theyre about the same

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emp goes a little farther

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if you turn around for the first part

fallen kiln
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Dayum

mossy veldt
fallen kiln
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Ight den I can’t complain about the distance

pure gate
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NERF HIM

mossy veldt
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gold is like a solid

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6/10

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his base is carried by pressure

pure gate
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bro he op in 2v2

fallen kiln
mossy veldt
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which is one of the most situational moves in the game

empty blaze
pure gate
fallen kiln
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Maybe street dribble happens faster but I swear it took you further

dreamy inlet
mossy veldt
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other than pressure and his ult

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hes not all that

dreamy inlet
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emp's reach can catch the ball after bounce away?

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i mean pressure bounced it

fallen kiln
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But I feel like if the dribble takes you just about as far as emp dribble, don’t have it auto-drop two people 💔

pure gate
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bump nerf him

fallen kiln
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Cause I’ve seen myself get dropped while the user of the dribble wasn’t close enough to me to where that should happen

pure gate
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ranked unplayable

mossy veldt
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Gold can be nerfed once emp gets nerfed

fallen kiln
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The GAME has been unplayable since emp dropped ngl

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It’s just been getting worse

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Ace rework released and the game was riddled with bugs

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I kid you not I didn’t play the game for an entire week

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Cause 3 of my 4 styles were bugged

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And then other dumb bugs that didn’t involve styles

fallen kiln
mossy veldt
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gold is fine as it is tbf

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pressure goes to the opponents team unless it bugs

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but you can intercept if youre guarding properly

winter wren
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It depends on what angle you use it from

mossy veldt
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yes it does

dreamy inlet
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it would be fine

mossy veldt
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it isnt

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is saying when it bugs like when it just drops

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or the pass misses

dreamy inlet
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hm

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maybe

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hopefully they neft pressure

mossy veldt
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id say

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give it the aiku treatment

dreamy inlet
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still interrupt dribbles but can't with some certain skills

mossy veldt
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only on your side

dreamy inlet
fallen kiln
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Oh ykw I know why I thought emp dribble didn’t go further than gold dribble

mossy veldt
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i used no zone for either

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thats just

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base move

fallen kiln
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After the first dribble there’s a pause and if you’re not the one that gets dropped you got time to catch up a little, rather than gold dribble’s one-stage dribble

mossy veldt
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thats irrlevant on going further

fallen kiln
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Ik that it was just a psychological thing

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I’m saying that I thought gold dribble’s went further because there’s no pause in between to catch up slightly

dreamy inlet
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how abt remove auto aim's pressure and make it able to push the ball in midair

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like passes or 3pts shot while using animalistic

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ggs

cold eagle
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His flow is undoubtedly one of the best

fallen kiln
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Changed my ideas up a bit, brought my original “40%-50% dribble range” nerf down to “20%-30%” and added “make the ball bounce a lot less further away” to the pressure nerf

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LOL

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Bro’s still checking in 😭

woeful garden
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No nash is supposed to be strong bro

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He's stronger than akashi

dreamy inlet
sage elm
dreamy inlet
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this is basketball

sage elm
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The only thing I agree with you on how far pressure bounces the ball I feel like it should be shorter

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It feels very underwhelming playing gold unlike emperor

fallen kiln
dreamy inlet
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make the bypass iframe has conditions

sage elm
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It was like a 12min break

dreamy inlet
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like half court or in 3/2pts zone

woeful garden
sage elm
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I wanted to see other’s opinions

fallen kiln
woeful garden
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Grinding it is much

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Kid

dreamy inlet
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ur just unlucky

fallen kiln
dreamy inlet
woeful garden
sage elm
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I only spent 3 ls??

woeful garden
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I have a life 🤷‍♂️

fallen kiln
fallen kiln
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Only reason I had that many skins and cash was cause I just stay afk overnight

woeful garden
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I don't afk in the chamber then

dreamy inlet
woeful garden
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I play ball

dreamy inlet
fallen kiln
woeful garden
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I will start doing it though since I havent gotten it

fallen kiln
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Cause that’s whole lot of grinding you gotta do to get 2m no afk

dreamy inlet
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so don't complain "dude i didn't get it"

fallen kiln
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Onb

woeful garden
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Whatever I'm out

dreamy inlet
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should be that

fallen kiln
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Later

mossy veldt
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its alright

hasty sail
# fallen kiln What y’all think?

I feel like they need to buff gold style not saying what you said is wrong but if its literally a 0.25% it should be decently powerful bc why would I want to spin for it if its just emperor and clutch there's nothing new about it its just emp and clutches moves with new colors and names not really that good of a style if it cant even beat a star

fallen kiln
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I don’t think the word buff is what you’re looking for

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I think you’re looking for “revamp”

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Or “rework”

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Swap some moves out and replace em

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Like Star for example. He got a buff along with his rework, yeah, but imo he deserved it. Dude was pretty much useless

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But they made him relevant, not op when the gave him his rework

dreamy inlet
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harder than giant but can save the shots

split hare
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looks like someone’s mad bc they didn’t get gold

fallen kiln
fallen kiln
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Took me over 1000 spins, but I got it

split hare
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okay but star was good before the rework

fallen kiln
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Okay

split hare
jagged girder
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he’s not even that good

rigid copper
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"I used Ace’s dribble skill which takes me even further across the court and pressure can somehow still reach me"
Pressure counters Ace's broken as hell dribble that takes you almost half court and you call for a nerf, are you a real human being
Also, it usually passes back to the enemy anyways unless your teammates are properly guarding, get real
Complain about Emperor instead

rigid copper
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Gold's dribble isn't ok but I feel like just because pressure counters one broken move, it shouldn't be nerfed

winter wren
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Aslong as ur tm8s are even semi guarding

rigid copper
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Not 100% tho

fallen kiln
rigid copper
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and they still do nothing about it

fallen kiln
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I’m not gonna make a suggestion about every op style that needs to be nerfed, I just wanted to do this one

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Ace is op

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Emp is op

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Gold is op

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I just chose to talk about Gold

fallen kiln
rigid copper
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although it is kinda crazy that pressure can knock Ace out of the blue line move in awk

fallen kiln
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IT CAN DO THAT???

rigid copper
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yeah

fallen kiln
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Even more reason for it to get nerfed 😭

rigid copper
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i went can i do this

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and it worked

fallen kiln
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Crazy work

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They love putting out dumb styles bruh

dreamy inlet
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or not

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cuz its awk

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pressure should not interrupt other styles's awk moves

minor eagle
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pressure shouldnt bypass dribbles in general

obsidian dew
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yeah

sage elm
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He’s a miracle he should he’s a defensive character it’s probably the only thing complimenting his kit

obsidian dew
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he's supposed to be a playmaker

dreamy inlet
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and harder to use

minor eagle
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no it genuinely shouldnt

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you literally cant move around

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because of pressure

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lol

dreamy inlet
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hm

obsidian dew
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  • pressure for some reason passes to the opposing side?
minor eagle
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mind you

obsidian dew
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so like gold is underwhelming and OP at the same time

minor eagle
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not even dribble moves can escape it

dreamy inlet
obsidian dew
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this is just the Ace rework all over again

obsidian dew
obsidian dew
dreamy inlet
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like only bypass in 2pts zone or half court

rigid copper
dreamy inlet
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so pressure is more likely to prevent dunks/3 pointer

obsidian dew
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wait I made a post about this could you check it out? #1383180151193337858

rigid copper
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i mean, if it was that then why push the ball in the direction of the opponents

dreamy inlet
obsidian dew
rigid copper
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sometimes pressure screws you over cuz it be forcing the ball in the direction of an open opponent like 💀

obsidian dew
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it always does that to me lol

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imo gold should either have his elbow pass be his 2nd move and the dribble end in a dunk

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But nerf pressure

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that way Gold feels like a miracle without being OP

minor eagle
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chrollo straight lyin through his teeth as per usual

peak vault
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op ahh

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chrollo does more balancing with bad styles than the op ones

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why cant i play fetch without it failing

minor eagle
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"GUYSSS.... WE PROMISE TO MAKE OUR STYLES BALANCED"

peak vault
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THANK U TESTERS FOR HELPING WITH BUGS

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js drop kj

fallen kiln
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Bump

vapid arrow
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I haven't played the update yet but is pressure like pressure defense where it can steal from like emperor reach and etc

minor eagle
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so uh

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imagine pressure defense without its drawbacks

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it bypasses iframes

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dribbles

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and dribble moves

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so

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simply speaking

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possession isnt a thing anymore in bbz

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when youre against golds

static quartz
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Bro golden in 2vs2 is so anyoing people spam there pressure defence at the start of the game and you cant do nothing and lose the ball and enemy score

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"Balanced

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Really "balanced"

minor eagle
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idk who thought it was a good idea to make it bypass dribbles

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but hey

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emperor cant make us shoot and pass

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so they had to fill it in

static quartz
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😂

minor eagle
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by giving gold the ability to take away other peoples ability to move

frosty nebula
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gold is dog i got it and ive been tring my best to like it but it so ahh compared to emp

minor eagle
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thanks chrollo!!! what a great update!!!

static quartz
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What weed did they smoke to give a steal that ignore iframe

minor eagle
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uh

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not even weed theyre just money hungry

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broken style equals more people shilling for spins

static quartz
boreal meadow
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its kinda broken

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buggy

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and boring

minor eagle
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as per usual with chrollos busted styles

frosty nebula
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they gotta buf gold

static quartz
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i had 2 people in one Team with golden guess what I never saw the ball that round

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Game start i have the ball bammmm pressure defence in you butt

fallen kiln
subtle spire
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Pressure isnt broken or op its just annoying esp when theres 3 golds and it goes so far so yeah i agree on making the pass it makes u do less aggressive

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The dribble is also really strong but tbh if it just dropped 1 person itd alr be a good nerf

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Gold is pretty balanced all things considered, it’s just annoying because the dribble currently has no counterplay and pressure is spammed too much

frosty nebula
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gold blows 🙏🙏

minor eagle
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pressure is aids mainly because it bypasses dribbles and every dribble move

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atp just take away my ability to move

subtle spire
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Yea i feel like it should maybe work on normal dribbles, but dribble moves and shots have wayy too long of a window for it

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Shots r fine but not the entire shot duration

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Like how is my ball moving to my teammate after its alr left my hands

minor eagle
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in general

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it shouldnt bypass dribbles

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or at least give it conditions to bypass dribbles

formal forge
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They gotta fire the testers, making pressure bypass I frames and the coding for ankle breaking is smth else

minor eagle
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because holy hell

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i CANNOT grasp the ball

subtle spire
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Yeah it is def a lil too much rn

minor eagle
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it slips out like its lathered in OIL

subtle spire
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But i feel like its only rly bad rn cuz everyones using gold

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So u get pressured every second

minor eagle
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we all said that with emp

formal forge
minor eagle
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we still are

subtle spire
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They rly should have a limiter on how many of a certain style but ig queue times would b done for

formal forge
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It could bypass ace's 100% drive if it didn't move it quickly

subtle spire
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Yeah thats insane

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If they dont wanna remove it they should make it so it slips out of ur hands after the move is done

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That way u can use it to reposition safely

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And get it to a teammate

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But rn its just kind of a brawl

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Unironically flash is S tier rn cuz it can grab the balls cuz they go flying everywhere

minor eagle
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or just make it not work on dribble moves because im out here wasting cooldowns lowkey

subtle spire
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Yeah i agree

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Imo the cooldown is too short too but maybe its just because theres 3 golds in every lobby

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Like the game is fr played differently because u cannot predict whos going to have the ball

coarse hemlock
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main problem is that for some reason some gold players will sag off their mark to spam pressure defense and give opp team a free goal

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no clue why they think spamming it is useful

light summit
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Yo ion this it's busted just other styles are outdated compared to the newer ones

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So those js need buffs and additions to the move sets

fallen kiln
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If a new invention comes along

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Something that the world finds incredible

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An amazing piece of machinery

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Is it advanced

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Or is everything created before it just outdated

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Think about that

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And come back later

coarse hemlock
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would the answer not be both

fallen kiln
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Yeah

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You right

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I ain’t think that one through

south quarry
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Tbh, the game currently is at NEL isagi release-like state in blr. Devs killed the balance completely once again and game gotta be unplayable in a few updates (prob next one lol) When you join any game (either ranked or public) the ball is just flying around with pressure, reach, unblockable dunks and of course all theese is supported by HUGE amount of bugs.

fallen kiln
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Onb

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Was hoping this game would last longer

south quarry
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People glazing Chrollo, but actually hes terrible in game development

finite spade
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Pressure is the only annoying move other than that it’s fine

south quarry
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Most of moves doesn't even work half of the time

fallen kiln
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Reminds me of when Yukimiya first released

lucid verge
south quarry
lucid verge
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Perfection was like kunigami

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Emperor is... Kinda the same vibe as the blr emperor

south quarry
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Perfection is horrible now

lucid verge
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Now with the inflated moveset from these decisions any style released outclasses way too many styles

lucid verge
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Now he isnt the big problem he used to be

cinder narwhal
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ppl be looking for reasons to complain ong

south quarry
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I was spamming my C in front of 2 people and it didn't even work, and when it works its easy af to block. 2nd move is the only thing that keeps him at least playable

lucid verge
south quarry
coarse hemlock
lucid verge
coarse hemlock
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ace, emp, copy

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off my head

cinder narwhal
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but seriously tho the second any update drops all i see is ppl whinning about the dumbest stuff

lucid verge
coarse hemlock
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not entirely sure what you mean by that

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actually i thinki do

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nvm

lucid verge
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Most of the bad feedback new styles get are from like, kids or something

south quarry
lucid verge
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Like, when emperor released there were people asking for buffs iirc

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crazy people but people indeed

coarse hemlock
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main problem with the style lies within the fact that he has a hyper buffed version of pressure defense that has a low cooldown

south quarry
coarse hemlock
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I have no clue why ppl keep complaining about pressure forcing passes to the opposite team though. It feels like they've never used clutch at all because it does the exact same thing.

cinder narwhal
south quarry
cinder narwhal
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and it needed a buff

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like this community kinda dumb

coarse hemlock
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ppl saying it's a mythic level style is ridiculous

cinder narwhal
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ong

coarse hemlock
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i saw one dude say it's worse than a leg

south quarry
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I saw some1 saying its legendary at max

coarse hemlock
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baffling

coarse hemlock
lucid verge
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they will get satisfied when a dev style releases making every single point, steal and anklebreak by itself and without cd on skills

fallen kiln
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Does gold vision not have an aura or smth?

south quarry
lucid verge
south quarry
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It is

lucid verge
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"I WILL GRAB MOMS CREDIT CARD SO WE CAN BUY IT!"

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istg bro why the trend is always gacha 💔

coarse hemlock
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it's just invisible

south quarry
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I'll I will remain silent about the data rollback they did NOT do after basketball god was unobtainable

coarse hemlock
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they did damage mitigation at least

atomic palm
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honestly, pressure needs both a buff and debuff

coarse hemlock
atomic palm
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where the ball goes

coarse hemlock
#

wdym

lucid verge
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a bad one tbf, i can guarantee that by pointing out the fact someone prob wasted more than 15 lucky spins on f2p

atomic palm
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Whenever i use it, it sends the ball right to ANOTHER enemy

coarse hemlock
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dawg

atomic palm
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i agree the range is stupid though

coarse hemlock
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it's supposed to do that

atomic palm
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bruh what ;-;

coarse hemlock
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it's not a free steal its a defensive move that resets the offense

atomic palm
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thats the stupidest ability then, just gives the enemy a free pass

coarse hemlock
#

clutch quite literally has the same move

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it works fine if you use it properly

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instead of just spamming it

lucid verge
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Yeah, and if your tm8 is well positioned he can catch it right?

coarse hemlock
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ye

atomic palm
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but like

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in normal p[lay

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that isnt happening, since nobody cordiantes

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besides for intercepts

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i will say it would be stuid if it just passed

coarse hemlock
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the whole point of the move is to stop the guy you used it on from scoring so you have another chance to get a block or steal or something

atomic palm
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i think it should just send the ball flying in the direction you aimed it

coarse hemlock
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not the don lorenzo strat

atomic palm
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that way it just resets every teams pos

coarse hemlock
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ts would suck

atomic palm
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because most likely the enemy would be behind

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yeah but any not braindead player would just start dribbling the second they gain the ball, giving the offense team a buff

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since the ball goes to an enemy

coarse hemlock
#

those would straight up just be meta

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they would get rebound every play

atomic palm
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yeah but enemy just gets a free pass

coarse hemlock
#

how is it a free pass

arctic crag
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Can lock intercept the forced pass?

atomic palm
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litterally every time ive used, and seen ppl use it, it went to an enemy and the enemy dribbled and shot

coarse hemlock
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it's interceptable and can get knocked off course

coarse hemlock
atomic palm
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dawg like i said theres no cordinating in regular play

coarse hemlock
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if your team isn't play man-to-man or zone defense duh the move sucks so don't use it in that scenario

atomic palm
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we aint bruh

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either way i still agree it needs a nerf

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i just have an opinion on it needing a buff in one sense

coarse hemlock
atomic palm
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dawg i dont want this to turn into an argument

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just lemme have my opinion

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ong last time i argued with a person in suggestions it turned into a ragebait

coarse hemlock
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why would i try to ragebait in a discussion

atomic palm
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idk tbh

coarse hemlock
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i'm just saying the way the move works isn't the problem its how people are using it

atomic palm
atomic palm
coarse hemlock
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dumb people are inevitable but you can just learn how to use the moves properly and avoid you making the mistakes

atomic palm
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because i a lot of situations, it gives the ball to someone whos in a good pos

south quarry
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Im back now

atomic palm
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in*

south quarry
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They muted me

atomic palm
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why they mute

coarse hemlock
south quarry
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Can't handlee the truth waiting

atomic palm
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its a very situational ability

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it can be good and it can be bad

atomic palm
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that is the specification bruh

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oh you mean the pos?

coarse hemlock
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no what do you mean game breaking position

atomic palm
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If p1 (Person with ball) is near 3 point, but is guarded, gold gets nervous they will get juked, uses ability to reset it right? well now imagine theres an enemy teamate on the opposite side of the 3 point line

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now like i said, it is situational

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cna be good, can be bad

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and trust, this is smt that would happen ingame DX

coarse hemlock
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there should be somebody guarding the second player

atomic palm
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yeah

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but like i said

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players are braindead

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they crowd the guy with the ball

coarse hemlock
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if there's not don't use the move and either get scored on or just play better defense

atomic palm
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bruh its like talking to a brick wall

broken void
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hey so is it me or is awk C bugged, like it doesn't change the V skill so i can't fake drive

atomic palm
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i can get it can be good for u

coarse hemlock
atomic palm
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but it can be bad

coarse hemlock
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that's player error

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which is my point

atomic palm
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AND

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theres a logistics error

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if i ram the guy from the front

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why does the ball go flying to the side

broken void
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its meant to be pressure defense, it forces your opponent to pass, so if you have someone else marking a teammate it can just give you the ball.
Granted that requires teamwork and most players do not know how to play the game, but we shouldn't balance styles around people being bad

atomic palm
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OML bro let me just HAVE MY OPINION

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i dont wanna argue about this rn

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yall keep pinging me

coarse hemlock
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he just said my point and nobody is trying to take away your opinion

atomic palm
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bro your arguing and pinging me constantly

broken void
coarse hemlock
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we're having a discussion

atomic palm
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wait

atomic palm
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im not saying your wrong

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but why the hell am i wrong

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I get that its good in the situation that your teams good

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or that your not playing solo

coarse hemlock
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your suggestion works but i think it causes more problems

atomic palm
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okay but if your gonna keep going with this stop pinging me

coarse hemlock
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because then you have to worry about 50 people with off ball dash moves every game spamming it

atomic palm
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wait

coarse hemlock
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i'm not pinging you

broken void
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"But if your team's bad its bad" yeah and everything in this game is bad if your team's bad, buffing pressure (which is already really strong) because its bad if your team's bad is like if we nerfed sniper because its op if your opponents don't know how to block

atomic palm
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i have almost never seen an off the ball movement

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its also bad in 1v1s

coarse hemlock
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quick fetch flash

broken void
atomic palm
broken void
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"Omg bro stop pinging meeee" idk then stop talking?

coarse hemlock
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i quit pinging you after you just brought up a problem with it

atomic palm
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Bru

broken void
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Me when i start a conversation and people converse

atomic palm
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yeah but

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in a conversation

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your allowed to walk away

broken void
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Then stop talking

atomic palm
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ANYWAYS

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ANYWAYS

broken void
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You're not really walking away if you just keep talking

atomic palm
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LIKE I WAS SAYING

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IN CONTEXT

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I agree

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It needs nerfing

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Because range is cracked

broken void
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No one answered my original question but isn't Gold awk C bugged? like it doesn't change my V skill so i can't do fake drive

coarse hemlock
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i feel like it's just the cd that needs a nerf

atomic palm
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although actually i do want to say a problem with my opinion

coarse hemlock
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you'll just get frozen in place

atomic palm
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wait a sec

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In ult you press it twice

broken void
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You can't do the other variation

atomic palm
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i havent seen it bug like that in ult

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i was gonna say is base its bugged

broken void
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Like you start the drive and press C again, that part is not bugged

coarse hemlock
broken void
atomic palm
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the second part says its a pass, but it just freezes me and wont let me pass or shoot

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for the base C

broken void
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we are so lucky june 20th is gonna be a balance and bugfix update

atomic palm
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and it does this to other players

coarse hemlock
broken void
atomic palm
broken void
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It also needs some reworks, and good reworks, unlike the one ace got with its copy pasted blue lock rivals skill and overtuned dribble

atomic palm
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As ace his dribble is just SO FAR, its always given me an instant 3 pointer

broken void
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I miss the times where asking people how good ace was worked as a newbie detector, like if you asked someone how good ace was and they told you it was top tier you could immediately tell they were new to the game.
Now ace just has buffed flash dribble for no reason

atomic palm
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Honestly

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Jackpot was 1st place for some time

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because of its insane stealing and dribbling

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and his ult was cracked at the time

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compared to every style

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since in ult you could just take the ball, or instantly score it

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now most stlyes have and instant 3, or a really op dribble

broken void
atomic palm
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Not better than emperor is rn

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except in ult

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jackpot ult folds emperor

broken void
#

Because after the steal you get a dash thats independant of your actual dribble, and you have 3 insane skills in ult, like that ult is still the best in the game.
And i don't like the fact that we have a style that has like, a 50/50 chance to pop ult and solo the verse just because you landed the rng

atomic palm
#

but jackpot cant score any shots with an emp

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not in bas

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base

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but otherwise

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jackpot is still op

atomic palm
#

do you think it needs a buff, a nerf, or none

broken void
atomic palm
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tbh fair

broken void
#

like you can still get stolen mid shamgod and that makes it risky

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But the base C dunk is just buffed star dunk, which was already a good move

atomic palm
#

and the dunk is blockable

broken void
atomic palm
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its hard to do anything about it tbh

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but if a defender predicts it they can block it

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AND emperor can reach it (Sometimes)

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emperor stealing dunks is kinda a gamble

broken void
wild skiff
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The it’s getting stressful let’s be honest

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Game*

broken void
#

quick and fetch would've been peak without the overtuned and undercooked ace rework

wild skiff
atomic palm
broken void
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i don't sweat too much i kinda just have fun, the only time where i start stressing in this game is when my teammates are bad

atomic palm
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its hard to have fun when gold slams the ball off you or emperor just grabs your pass

broken void
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and spinning, they need to make skip spins free bro like today i spun for over an hour for gold flow and i still don't have it

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got gold though

wild skiff
broken void
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Copycat is broken and it needs nerfs but i barely see it

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Like the only time when i see copycat is when I'm the copycat

atomic palm
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i see them too often

wild skiff
atomic palm
#

idk what servers your in

rustic slate
#

Copycat won't get nerfed

broken void
#

And honestly, the reason copycat is as busted as it is, is because we have a lot of insane skills in this game for them to copy

atomic palm
broken void
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Like, if anything gets nerfed, copycat gets caught in the crossfire

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Its unbalanced because the game is unbalanced

broken void
#

If copycat were to get nerfed however, the one nerf i'd give them is to make copied dribbles take stamina, that way you need to spend stamina to cross court

atomic palm
#

by stamina you mean dribbles, right?

broken void
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Because the fact that rn you can just, dribble thrice, then emperor dribble, then emperor drive, then flowstep, and then burst is just too insane

broken void
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Like how flash dash does

atomic palm
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probably more of something like decreased dribble range or smt, or a chance to fail a copy

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OH WAIT YEAH

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there should be like a 50/50 chance to fail a copy

broken void
atomic palm
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maybe not 50/50

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its logical though

broken void
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even if the chance is like 10% its a horrible idea

atomic palm
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because its hard to copy moves youve never done

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wait

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first

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ive never played copycat before

broken void
atomic palm
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so i dont know how the move works

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so question

queen oxide
atomic palm
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do you getta select who you copy from

queen oxide
#

????

broken void
atomic palm
#

okay so

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hear me out

queen oxide
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is the style is busted and u say its op that means its good

atomic palm
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we just remove that

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you copy a random person

atomic palm
#

just hear me out

queen oxide
atomic palm
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JUST HEAR ME OUT FOR 1 SEC THOU

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ive never used him

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so again

broken void
#

You can't just say my nerf was bad then propose the 2 worst copycat nerfs in history

atomic palm
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i dont know how to neft him

broken void
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rng chance to miss into copy a random person is not a good look

atomic palm
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bruh taking away stamina would suck

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wait

queen oxide
#

first of all theres a chance that u get the wrong move that u dont want btw on top of that making it random makes no sense because this style isnt supposed to be based around luck

atomic palm
#

can we take a second here

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and realize

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coding is hard

broken void
atomic palm
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so we cant blame the devs for the bugs

broken void
atomic palm
#

bro

queen oxide
#

honestly just nerf flowstep distance a lil and call it a day

broken void
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"We can't blame them" this is not a small 10 dev team bro

atomic palm
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that doesnt help coding

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it makes the lag better yess

broken void
atomic palm
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but it doesnt make you just smarter

broken void
queen oxide
atomic palm
broken void
atomic palm
#

getting expensive parts (Ussually) means less lag

queen oxide
atomic palm
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although it also depends on wifi and server location

fallen kiln
broken void
#

like "we can't blame the devs for the bugs" yes we can? delay the update? fix the bugs? stop rushing styles? you have a whole team? get better playtesting? like you set the schedule, its not like they're forced to release things at a certain date

atomic palm
#

op = over powered

queen oxide
atomic palm
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have you never coded before

queen oxide
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honestly i think pressure should stay as how it is

fallen kiln
queen oxide
atomic palm
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Because on GOD it is hard even with a team

queen oxide
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making updates longer

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would make the game WAY better

fallen kiln
#

Swearing on God’s name is crazy

atomic palm
#

honestly

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it holds no power to me

broken void
atomic palm
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because im atheist

queen oxide
#

even my friends on very good devices have been dealing with the same bug ngl

broken void
#

I will tell you a good thing they did this update though, in regards to coding

fallen kiln
broken void
#

They optimized the game a lot

atomic palm
#

it may be an error they cant find

broken void
#

This game used to take way too many resources in pc

broken void
atomic palm
broken void
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Thats why they have a team for bro

atomic palm
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bro playtesting doesnt mean they can find it

fallen kiln
atomic palm
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and having a team doesnt mean its "super easy to find"

fallen kiln
#

Cause the game is riddle with more bugs than Notti is with stab wounds

broken void
atomic palm
#

hey elub

broken void
#

"Playtesting doesn't mean they can find it" but it should mean that
like thats the point of playtesting vro

queen oxide
broken void
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Thats why anyone hires playtesters

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And, its not like the bugs we've been dealing with are super hard to find? like forced shot didn't even work with copycat until last update

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ever since emperor release that was just not working

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did they just, never play copycat against emperor?

queen oxide
broken void
#

i also experienced this bug where someone made me used forced shot, but i was already in the middle of the dunk animation? so the ball just got flung out of my hands???

queen oxide
broken void
broken void
broken void
#

y'know how gold's pressure move just always flings the ball out of your hands?

fallen kiln
broken void
# queen oxide ye

yeah so i'm pretty sure its not meant to do that, like when chrollo showcases the move on the trailer he says its meant to be pressure defense but if you miss you don't get ankle broken, but in game its just pressure defense but you can't miss

queen oxide
broken void
#

If pressure isn't intended to do that, then how the hell did that get through playtesting?

#

If it is intended to do that however, whoever's on the balance team needs to get out, like asap

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"Lets make this defensive move that just cannot miss and just hits your opponent regardless of what they're doing" like on everyone's soul if this is intentional ima tweak out

queen oxide
#

ngl to me golds pressure feels like clutch with a 2x bigger range

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but ngl

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i should watch that dev showcase

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😭

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honest the one issue that i have with gold is that his awakening is VERY underwhelming

coarse hemlock
#

which works as intended

broken void
coarse hemlock
#

is it balanced? no

coarse hemlock
#

if what you mean is the range is way too far then

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yeah nerf that

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i think the only problem though is that the move's cd is lower than others

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so it's used way more frequently than it probably should

queen oxide
#

but the ability isnt THAT busted unless u dont have a full lobby of gold players you can just throw out a global cd on it

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and you would be fine

coarse hemlock
#

the point of stuff like blink getting a global cd is because the function of the move can instantly shut down scoring opportunities for people completely

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it's also why people want emperor's reach to have a global cd

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all pressure does is force an opponent to pass to their other teammates

peak vault
#

can the 17 people who put the 💩 emoji tell me how this style is balanced

raw belfry
#

they want the game to play for them when they tap a button

craggy marsh
raw belfry
#

I use pressure facing my side of the court

peak vault
raw belfry
#

and sometimes it is goes to my teammates

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😂

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it’s super fair!

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a skill that bypasses iframes and has 0 downsides

craggy marsh
raw belfry
#

You can use it mid emperors reach too!

coarse hemlock
# raw belfry Not necessarily

well yeah sometimes ball gets loose but that's not the primary function plus if your teammates play right they can int it

raw belfry
#

Js like pressure defense

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Not sure why Chrollo thinks it’s a good idea to power creep alr existing styles

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completely removes the point of using the lesser styles

coarse hemlock
craggy marsh
#

Gold is op but super buggy rn

coarse hemlock
#

that's why i'm confused when i keep seeing ppl say buff it to make it go to your teammates and not the opponents

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it doesn't need a buff you just can't use it

craggy marsh
#

The style can literally freeze u forcing u to leave the server. Because it doesn't let u back to the spawn

raw belfry
#

man I’m tired of these devs

craggy marsh
#

But maybe u can reset

raw belfry
#

playin games w 8 golds on the court

craggy marsh
#

I didn't try