#Remove Copycat being able to copy Emperor.

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faint rose
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its actually objectively bad lol

final wind
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😭

dry oracle
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?

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copy is amazing rn

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even with this rule it would be good honestly

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but that doesnt change that this suggestion is kinda stupid

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cuz it's mythic and reo was legendary

pale stump
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When he can’t copy miracles or limiteds in a game where there are too many like blr everyone uses world classes kise wouldn’t be able to copy many characters

meager fiber
dry oracle
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ok true

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but i doubt chrollo will spam miracles

meager fiber
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Such as when you're in a lobby with mostly bbg or perfection when they came out

faint rose
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hes releasing one

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soon

dry oracle
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oh wait shi i forgot it cant copy limiteds

faint rose
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lol

dry oracle
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well after emp and nash

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its prob gonna be a while till the next

meager fiber
dry oracle
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eh

pale stump
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They the same as miracles

dry oracle
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id rather be able to copy miracles then limiteds

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cuz the point of a limited is that it's unique

meager fiber
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Because in ranked I have gone against teams with mostly/all limiteds

dry oracle
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not even that good

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copy aint missing out on much

pale stump
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They’ll be rarer aswell

meager fiber
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True

dry oracle
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the limiteds so far are mythic level

final wind
dry oracle
sturdy pollen
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holy hell this is a terrible suggestion whoever did this needs to reincarnate at this second

dry oracle
final wind
dry oracle
pale stump
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They’ll add silver and Nash and I expect some other anime styles maybe luffy

dry oracle
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literally nothing in between

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also speaking of blr have yall seen the aiku rework 😭

final wind
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Aiku NEVER did all that

dry oracle
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one move he becomes a snake and slithers on the floor for like 5 seconds

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and what is snake shot???

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why do they all need shooting moves???

final wind
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It’s so bad

pale stump
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It looks so buns but it’s op

dry oracle
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he has 4 base moves

final wind
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I understand in ult

dry oracle
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and 3 awk moves

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thats more moves then NEL isagi

final wind
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With former striker

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Or whatever it’s called

dry oracle
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but snake shot??

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what is that

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why does it move like that

final wind
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No but Six eyes

dry oracle
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yukkimaya cant have a gyro shot move but aiku can have "snake shot"...

pale stump
dry oracle
exotic valley
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ok guys

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we can ALL agree (yes ALL of US) that this suggestion is cheeks

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funny how the first comment ratio'd this post in no time

grizzled kraken
exotic valley
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ngl

faint rose
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deserved ratio if anything

grizzled kraken
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I was sick of the concept of making sure a copy style can’t copy

faint rose
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lets hit 300 dislikes this time 😍

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surely we can hit that goal

dry oracle
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i wonder if anyone is ever gonna fire emoji this

exotic valley
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4 people did

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(probs his alt accounts)

dry oracle
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eh i dont count thumbs up

exotic valley
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true but think logically

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us commenting here

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bumps his idea

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🙀

dry oracle
exotic valley
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fr

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lets shut up in this suggestion chat

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💔

whole hedge
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Forgot this horrible suggestion was still up

dry oracle
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nah road to 300 x's

sly hawk
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someone gotta find a way to balance copycat

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simply making emp not copy-able wont fix it being crazy good

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🥀

exotic valley
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i mean every time u use copy u get a random move of the style

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not one u want

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🤷‍♂️

sly hawk
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unless they nerf flowstep or sum

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copycat is always a better choice

exotic valley
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copycat against an emperor > emperor

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ngl

sly hawk
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idk it goes by preference

exotic valley
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u can prolly full court if u get dribble move

sly hawk
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ye

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copycat is always a better choice so far

exotic valley
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but as a preference i use other styles

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cuz they got fixed moves

sly hawk
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personally copycat shouldnt even been added

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i genuinly dont know any way to balance it

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idk if other people do but its rly hard

exotic valley
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tbh js make cooldowns longer

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and there u go 👍

faint rose
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using copied moves take stamina

sly hawk
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tricky

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maybe like

faint rose
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its like flash dash

sly hawk
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copied moves are worse than the original

faint rose
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thats also complicated

exotic valley
sly hawk
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ye

exotic valley
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would make cc irrelevant

sly hawk
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its hard to nerf that without gutting it

faint rose
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to be fair rn cc mains just

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copy dribble moves

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and crossmap

exotic valley
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i mean

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what they supposed to do when whole server is emperor

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the emp users DESERVE that

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for using emperor

faint rose
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im not talking about emp specifically

exotic valley
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ik but all my servers are full of emperors

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copycat rn is literally the best style ngl

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like the canon kise

sly hawk
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depends on what for

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for 2v2s its not but everything else ig

faint rose
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honestly

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just make copy drain stamina

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so they just dont flowstep and cross map with dribbles and copied moves

exotic valley
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my duo in 2s was a copycat

faint rose
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cc is good in any mode

exotic valley
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he would clutch the game everytime

exotic valley
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imagine u go 2v2 and face 2 giant posterizers (my duo was a cc posterizer)

sly hawk
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its also even more braindead when u think about this; theres an emp on the field. and the copycat can see that its an emp before they even use a move, so if he gets the dribble move the copycat can target the emp to stun him and shoot so the emp cant use reach

exotic valley
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when game was abt to end we made a HUGE comeback (thanks to him copying snatch block) and he solo'd with posterizer near the hoop

exotic valley
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copycat is also strategic

sly hawk
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it just shouldnt even be in game bro

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how u nerf this

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🥀

exotic valley
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he can see the snatch block incoming even if a dude never used the move yet

steel haven
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no, just make copycat also a Miracle, no need to make such a good style bad

fallow jay
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the ability to see what style a person have

sly hawk
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yh

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u cant nerf that unless u wanna gut the style

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just delete it bro

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💔

faint rose
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copy cooldown getting longer each time you use it

exotic valley
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tbh

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i dont even hate copycat users

exotic valley
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depends on how much it increases

fallow jay
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im pretty sure the cooldown depends on what move u used

exotic valley
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release copy had hella long cooldowns ngl

steel haven
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horrible idea im not gon lie

exotic valley
steel haven
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cooldown high enough

faint rose
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45 seconds

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is incredibly low

grizzled kraken
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What we talking about?

faint rose
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for a move lol

exotic valley
fallow jay
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i swear sometimes its 60+ and sometimes its 40

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the copy ability

grizzled kraken
exotic valley
steel haven
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never*

exotic valley
fallow jay
exotic valley
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thats y i spun copy

grizzled kraken
faint rose
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flowstep is also a part of the issue icl

fallow jay
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flowstep's an incredibly versatile move

faint rose
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it crossmaps

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so hard

exotic valley
steel haven
faint rose
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that was burst

exotic valley
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u could steal-snipe stepflow

exotic valley
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i tested w my homie

faint rose
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what

steel haven
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it is

faint rose
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like i dont think nerfs are a priority for it

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but it is not balanced at all

fallow jay
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they shouldnt touch the copy ability

steel haven
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it full on is

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cooldown is mad high

fallow jay
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they need to rework the flowstep straight up

exotic valley
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stamina nerf would be accurate since kise has 0 stamina stats

steel haven
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and you can copy abilities

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thats all

sly hawk
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once you chose a style to copy, it copies the 2 moves with the copy cd in between. for example u copy emp dribble, copy goes on cd after u use it and then it copies reach. after u use that and it goes off cd is when u can copy someone else.

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maybe this wouldwork

grizzled kraken
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That sounds mad annoying

faint rose
fallow jay
sly hawk
faint rose
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flowstep consuming stamina would also kinda hinder people going crossmap with it

steel haven
exotic valley
faint rose
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yeah

fallow jay
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with flowstep u could straight up dribble 6 times

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w/o zone

faint rose
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pretty much lol

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its so much worse when someone has perfectionist

sly hawk
steel haven
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i did

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im confused

faint rose
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so what hes saying is

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copying someone

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will take both their moves

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but

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you use one at a time

sly hawk
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and u cant copy someone else till u use both

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so if u copy someone with only 1 good move

faint rose
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not really a good balance tbh

sly hawk
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u have to use the bad move after that

steel haven
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i mean its basically like that

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but one move

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wouldnt really change

faint rose
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youre technically giving

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copycat 3 moves

steel haven
faint rose
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which is not good

sly hawk
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wdym

fallow jay
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make copycat braindead and make it so u can mix and match moves

faint rose
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im gonna combine sky leap with charge

fallow jay
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which honestly should've been the awakening

faint rose
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would be interesting but also hard to implement and buggy

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imagine mixing perfect arc and quick release

exotic valley
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that would work as an awakening move

faint rose
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it would but

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itd be hella buggy and difficult to implement

exotic valley
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make so his B makes a full court from the other hoop, a 3 behind the 3 pt line and the thing he has rn inside 2 pt zone

exotic valley
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ts a buff lowk

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😢

faint rose
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why

sly hawk
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delete copy and divide flowstep and burst into 2 moves

faint rose
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ion think we need that lol

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flowstep might need a genuine nerf

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like make it consume stamina

fallow jay
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not only does it give space but it can also mess up defensive formations

exotic valley
faint rose
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or make it

exotic valley
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thank me later

faint rose
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like

exotic valley
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i balanced cc

faint rose
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make thd distance shorter

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the lower your stamina is

exotic valley
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@faint rose make burst the ON ball move and FLOWSTEP the OFF ball move

faint rose
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actually no thats not fixing anything

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they can just

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flowstep then dribble thrice

exotic valley
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so u cant just get away and score a free 3

faint rose
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just make it consume stamina

exotic valley
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mine lowk better

faint rose
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not really

exotic valley
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burst needs people in front of you

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so u cant get away and score a free 3

faint rose
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flowstep off the ball will make it better in defense

exotic valley
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we have flash already

faint rose
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yeah but flash does one thing

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unlike cc

exotic valley
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well whatever

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js learned

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cc is unerfable without gutting it

faint rose
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not really

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but it is difficult to balance

sly hawk
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ngl that could work

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making burst and flowstep off and on the ball moves

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once u use one both goes on cd

faint rose
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just make either copy or flowstep consume stamina and it should probably work

sly hawk
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i feel like that would gut it

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js me tho

faint rose
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not really

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still good movement

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just gotta use it wisely

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rather than just

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back dribble x3 into copied drive move into flowstep

sly hawk
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that would mess people up so hard i think

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u could still use it tho

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just have to use ur frontal lobe more often

faint rose
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thats the point lol

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ive played with a perfectionist copycat

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luckily he was on my team

whole hedge
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Copy is not as broken as y’all make it sound 😭

faint rose
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but not a single dude was able to block him

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we arent saying its broken

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we are just finding ways to somewhat balance it

sly hawk
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just not as much as emp

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thats why not alot of people talk abt it much

faint rose
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people just got used to copycat

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lol

sly hawk
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yh

faint rose
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as for emperor

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i dont think people are gonna get used to

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reach going off 5 times per minute

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i hate how that isnt even an exaggeration

sly hawk
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idk if my teammates are just not paying attention but when they use ultimate pass i feel like it takes longer to get the cd back than when they use reach

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idk cuz idh emp

dry oracle
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imo stamina should be used as a balancing tool way more

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post form and reverse dunk could cost stamina

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maybe it'd stop people from complaining about guaranteed point moves so much

whole hedge
atomic thorn
summer copper
stiff sluice
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Yea matter of fact I say make copycat only be able to copy clutch 🥀🥀🥀