#Emperor Nerfs | Completed!

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limber kindle
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But have fun dealing with the noobs hating on you💀

blazing portal
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I am winning

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I don't care abt kids whinning

vocal gyro
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yeah

limber kindle
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Thats what we've been doing this whole time lmao

stray mesa
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#1383947899397996605 message phantom buff go check it out if u want

limber kindle
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Noobs defending emp is balanced

stray mesa
limber kindle
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They entertain me so much

stray mesa
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Js like

reef moon
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20s cd ain't doing shi

stray mesa
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The reach

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Is so

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Annoying

limber kindle
blazing portal
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I don't even think blink is 20 second on global cd

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It's more

reef moon
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?

limber kindle
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This doesn't give me much hope tho

reef moon
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Chrollo said something like 20 secs

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Which is buns

blazing portal
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It should be like 35 seconds and again soft rework the move to make it 0.5 second 1 second to actually force ppl to be smart and time it right

reef moon
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Bro emp's reach gives you the dam ball wtf the other team gonna do in 20 s

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By the time you on defense you got it back

limber kindle
blazing portal
reef moon
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How we removing pressure but keeping reach bro im gonna lose it

blazing portal
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That

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Global cd

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Will only affect the team

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That used it

reef moon
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Hopefully

blazing portal
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Not the whole game

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Or else it would be dumb

limber kindle
reef moon
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Have you seen the stage of the game rn

blazing portal
limber kindle
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Unless some idiot uses emp reach during offense

blazing portal
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Especially since gold

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Gold steal move is so stupid

reef moon
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Now we getting chrollo and tatlis style

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Breh

blazing portal
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I fought 4 gold once i legit can't even have the ball

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Made my team useless

vestal cradle
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sigh i have a suggestion noone sees for sum reason guys

instead of having the zone as an aura why dont u have it as sparks that come from the user's eyes like in the anime and last until the zone ends

blazing portal
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Can't be dodged can't be stopped or anything

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Just freely lose the ball

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And gold is so bugged like

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Testers

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Should be fired

reef moon
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As long as they balance the game idgaf fr

blazing portal
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Instant

reef moon
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There's a bug with gold where if you spam it it gives the cd back

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LMAO

blazing portal
blazing portal
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It's insane

reef moon
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Testers only there to try shi out before everyone else they do not carr

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E

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Or maybe the devs jus dont listen

vestal cradle
blazing portal
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Testers only be trying emperor in test place and finding ways to ghost buff it

vestal cradle
limber kindle
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Not tryna defend the testers or sum but doesn't the blame fully land on the people that fix the bugs?

vestal cradle
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use use and abuse thats the way of life

reef moon
limber kindle
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Like what point is there to report if devs don't fix it in the first place

blazing portal
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Don't know abt the bugs

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Because the testers don't do their jobs

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How should we blame em ?

limber kindle
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What if they did report and devs just take awhile to fix it

reef moon
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Tbf we dont know what goes on behind closed doors

blazing portal
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Like

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It's ridiculous

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Devs don't really try their thing they make it

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They need a lot of ppl to try it

limber kindle
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I get that but like I'm saying

blazing portal
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And those ppl can't even use the first move apparently

limber kindle
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What if devs are also part to blame

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Because there's no way the testers didn't see ace drawing lines all over the court

blazing portal
limber kindle
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They had to have reported thst

blazing portal
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Like give it 1 week and gg no more glitches

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While testers

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Their only job

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Is testing these

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And the players do a better job

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It makes no sense

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They really should just fire em and change testers at that point

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If they can't use the first move

limber kindle
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Im just saying idk if testers are to be blamed fully

limber kindle
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The devs gotta take some responsibility in this too

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Cuz how are they gonna let ace draw on the court for a whole week

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They should've seen that the first they test came out

blazing portal
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Yeaj

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The bbz team is just ridiculous sometimes ngl

limber kindle
blazing portal
stray mesa
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proven quail
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buddy, if u had emperor, u would know it only lasta few seconds, like 3-5 is that isn't low idk what is

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is 3-5 seconds not low? u have to time when to use it if not its wasted, maybe get the style first, also the only way it would be a problem is if the person doesn't know they are playing against an emp and are terrible at the game. dunking is a good counter, not mindlessly passing is also a good way and everyone plays different, some emp users only use it to defend at the 3 point line to prevent someone from shooting while others use it when the opposing team is passing or both ways, plus emp reach DOES NOT work when they are meany 2 or more players on the opposing team nearby, funny how you only looked at the duration but couldn't say nothing else about it not working most of the time due to many players huddling together

wide pike
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i never said nothing bout no 3-5 seconds

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when on earth did i say that

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all i did was respond to was "the duration of emps reach is already low"

wide pike
arctic herald
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Instead of adding a emp nerf just add a f3mb0y style to counter it 💔

proven quail
wide pike
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yes, and what message did i reply too?

arctic herald
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Lady’s lady’s calm down

proven quail
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it implied u had a problem with my comment

wide pike
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you somehow assumed I said it deserves a 3-5s cooldown

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all i said was please learn how to play the game

wide pike
proven quail
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learn to read bro, I said it has 3-5 sec duration

wide pike
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wha

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what?

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it has an 8 second duration

proven quail
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sure

arctic herald
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Wait rrc and bohan we both agree that emp reach needs a buff right

proven quail
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I use it all of the time, I know that isn't 8 secs

wide pike
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literally test it out 😭

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it is not 3-5 s

proven quail
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doesn't need a buff but it's weird

wide pike
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literally time it

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rn

proven quail
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sure

wide pike
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and?

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wait i figured out how to prove it's 8 seconds

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70s cooldown right?

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kaboom

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even with my rough screenshots its clear as day

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another lovely screenshot

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ngl that kind a looks like 8s to me

dawn depot
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I even cut it down saying it was 7.5s to be generous.

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😭

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Incase someone wanted to say text technically comes AFTER it ends.

stray mesa
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If yall want check out my suggestions!! #1383957016673910915 message
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limber kindle
limber kindle
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(Not ragebaiting at all)

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Been using emp my whole life

stray mesa
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If yall want check out my suggestions!! #1383957016673910915 message
#1383947899397996605 message

limber kindle
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Maybe get the style firstnerd

lament ember
hazy vigil
lost galleon
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Might make the dad lore a lil deeper

vocal gyro
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Dropping my emperor suggestion here cause im deleting my post:

Emperor:

Emperor Reach Counter: make its time shorter or give it an indication of when its in use (Eye glowing or red aura) allow people to stall it out

or make it like normal blocks use it when it happens only thing that’ll gives him the advantage over blocks like cell’s blink or lock’s intercept is that he can do it with both passes and shoots and he can keep the ball (This will make the move more skill dependent)

(I feel like a lot of styles need to be more “skill dependent”)

Also a global cooldown would do wonders cause dealing with 2 emperors in 2v2 is impossible

wary forge
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Or 7.3-7.4 idk

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💀

vocal gyro
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js dropped 2 suggestions lmk if i cooked

supple swallow
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W

vocal gyro
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ahh

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i was hear about that

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fuuu i dont be checking poll

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ah

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cause i removed the channel atp

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my dumb ahh

supple swallow
vocal gyro
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the fact mf were disagreeing is crazy

supple swallow
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"u guys are just bad at the game" excuses are through the roof

drowsy hawk
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Bump

faint basin
vocal gyro
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and nerfing half of the dribble stun mfs

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like copycat

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and jackpot

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and gold

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and perfection

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free 3s

supple swallow
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i didnt have medal but i just saw 4 gold pressures in a row

smoky trout
quick saddle
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Peak gameplay smirk

wide pike
umbral cave
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Or a parry, like in Souls games or Sekiro.

blazing portal
umbral cave
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This is something I would love to see.

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Along with an indicator and a range decrease.

limber kindle
blazing portal
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But tbh idk if indicator would be good

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Because like if it's a parry

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The ennemie should not know you'll parry but you need to rely on timing

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If the ennemy can see it it's useless

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Idealy it should be like

0.8 second window
Around the same range (it's not a big problem since it should kinda be rewarding to land it)
Require a good timing
If successfully landed your next dribble has a speed boost (basically one speed dribble zone effect on one dribble)
Global cooldown ONLY FOR YOUR TEAM and 30 sec
If not succesfully landed you get -15% speed for 6 seconds or sum

lavish anchor
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ngl thats too complicated

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just reduce the window to 3s and give it an indicator

blazing portal
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I like my stuff to take skill

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Or to not just be super easy to dodge

lavish anchor
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then dont use miracle styles lmao

blazing portal
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This would legit make the move useless tbh

blazing portal
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Is that all you have to say

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"Insthead of fixing the style and making it cool just don't use it 🤓"

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Bro the problem is that miracle styles are free win and brain dead

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It's like blue lock rival

lavish anchor
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okay then reduce the window to 3s and give it an indicator

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thats it

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lol

blazing portal
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Braindead still

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And boring

lavish anchor
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the move doesnt need to be changed functionally

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just reduce the window

blazing portal
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Why not making the style something that require skill and that is actually cool ??

lavish anchor
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as much as i want that its not really necessary

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just a nerf will suffice

blazing portal
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Okay so tell me

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How would your fix

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Be usefull

lavish anchor
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indicator

blazing portal
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Usefull for the one that uses it

lavish anchor
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time it properly

blazing portal
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If it takes 3 second (literally pump fake i-frame would counter this) and have an indications (just dribble if you see it 3 times and gg countered)

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It would literally make the move useless

blazing portal
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JUST LIKE MY SUGGESTION

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!?!?!

lavish anchor
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yeah except your suggestion adds like

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500 doohickeys and doo dads

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just make it a parry

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no need for the extra effects

blazing portal
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Cuz you need to really time it and it either rewards you or not

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That's literally it

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Also there is no indicator

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Cuz it would make the move useless

lavish anchor
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the reward is guaranteeing possession

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im pretty sure thats enough

blazing portal
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If ppl inow you're about to parry they legit just have to dribble or pump fake

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And gg

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Move became useless

lavish anchor
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alright then take away the indicator

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reduce the time window

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no need for anything extra

blazing portal
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The it's literally just like my suggestion except that mine is not onlly funnier adds more skill as it's a true "parry" since it's just 0.8 second window and it rewards you slightly more if you land it

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And minus you if you don't

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It's not that hard

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Jackpot is harder than bro

lavish anchor
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so why is there a need for

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any effects afterwards

blazing portal
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It makes the move funnier takes more skill and rewards better if you manage to parry in the 0.8 sec and the reward aint even allat legit just ONE SINGLE better dribble

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And if you didn't manage to you get slown by 15% for 6 second

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It's trully not allat

lavish anchor
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kinda excessive icl

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getting possession is enough

blazing portal
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Just things to make it better because why would you not be punished by flopping it

blazing portal
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Crazy

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Why would the move be a thing then ??

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If it does not reward you slightly better

lavish anchor
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because emperors reach has more range than a block

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its technically just snatch block but very slightly easier tbh

blazing portal
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Okay cool, still think it should reward you that you managed to call the shoot or pass with'in these 0.8 second yeah you get the ball and ONE BETTER DRIBBLE like

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It's not even allat

blazing portal
lavish anchor
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thats fair but i dont really see a need for it to get any sort of buff

blazing portal
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Maybe because it's 0.8 second ?

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And landing a perfect timing thing should feel rewarding

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Like yeah you got the ball and one cool dribble

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Peak

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And if you fumbled it you get a slight minus

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Also great for balance

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It's not that deep

lavish anchor
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eh

blazing portal
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And it's just a suggestion

lavish anchor
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guaranteeing possession is enough icl

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i dont see an issue with it

blazing portal
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Not guarentee tho

lavish anchor
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just not a necessity

blazing portal
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Because it was 0.8 second

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It took skill to land

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A lot

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That most bbz players don't have

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Since they are brain dead with their powers

lavish anchor
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cool

wary forge
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Bro if anything

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Gold needs the dribble stun nerf the most

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Jackpot doesn't rlly its just 0.5 seconds I'm fine with it

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If I'm talking about the correct move

lavish anchor
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hot take

wary forge
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Emp maybe?

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Just a tiny one

lavish anchor
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hot take

wary forge
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What is the hot take here

lavish anchor
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lucky bounce should have a 1/4 chance to access lucky dash

wary forge
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And what does the 3/4 do?

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Honestly lucky stun needs a very slight nerf

lavish anchor
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lucky pass

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lucky stun is fine

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you rarely ever get it

wary forge
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Since u can lowkey 3pt when u steal it

wary forge
lavish anchor
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its like

wary forge
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Wait so jackpot uses chances on variants?

lavish anchor
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after steal

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you either get lucky dash

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lucky pass

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or lucky stun

wary forge
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I thought it was the same move cuz I got lucky stun alot after steal

lavish anchor
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but for bounce

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you only get lucky pass

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hence my hot take

wary forge
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Ohh

lavish anchor
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lucky bounce should have a 1/4 chance to have lucky dash

wary forge
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Ngl they need to stop sending out miracle defenders

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💔

lavish anchor
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in general i think they should stop making busted defense moves lol

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like jackpot steal and sky leap are good examples of skill based defense moves

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pressure defense as well if we wanna go there

radiant karma
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flash dash aswell

wary forge
lavish anchor
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uh

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not really

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its good as it is

wary forge
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45 to 55-60?

lavish anchor
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never really had an issue with it

wary forge
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I guess

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I mean like it is 100% save when u see they shoot

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So 3pts are just negated

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Maybe like aces shot can get in rarely

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Even blr does more nerfs

lavish anchor
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amazing

wary forge
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They nerfing rin again and aiku

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This is crazy💀

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Blr needs to behave

radiant karma
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what is even happening in blr right now

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i've seen my fyp that miro left

trim bone
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Is emp getting a nerf

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Like perfection did

umbral cave
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Its getting a global cooldown.

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Which is very nuch needed, however it's a stopgap.

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The move needs a range and duration nerf bare minimum.

lavish anchor
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yeah

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the cooldown isnt really the main issue

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its the move itself

random axle
umbral cave
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@random axle See above.

random axle
lavish anchor
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its heading in a good direction

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somewhat

trim bone
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Pressure is so buns they should add a new defence ability

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The ball goes to the opponent

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Like almost everytime

lavish anchor
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thats the point

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it forces them to pass towards a teammate

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so if you have a teammate that plays proper defense

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theyre practically guaranteed to get the ball

chrome kindle
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You just push a button and the ball gets knocked out

chrome kindle
true matrix
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hate what this game became man

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i loved release and how defense worked

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but as soon as they added all these stun dribbles that complelely negate the point of a defense

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and defense moves that play defense for you

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game been gettin unfun

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🥀

lavish anchor
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yeah

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i hate that nobody is talking about golds dribble

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dude

reef moon
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No move should have no counter bro

lavish anchor
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dude golds dribble

true matrix
lavish anchor
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annoys me to no end

true matrix
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🥀

lavish anchor
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i was at the half court line

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maybe alittle past jt

reef moon
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Its a free dunk or three it's dumb

lavish anchor
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gold was at the three point line

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gold dribbles

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i get stunned

true matrix
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meanawhile mods are warning people for saying its nash from kuroko and insisting its an oc style

lavish anchor
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FROM THE HALF COURT LINE BRO

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its so stupid

lament ember
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just stay near your court and get ready to defend

reef moon
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Tbf mods dont work on game devving

lament ember
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you only get stunned if you're between his dribble not when your ahead of him

lavish anchor
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nah

supple swallow
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he can move to make you inside of his dribble

lavish anchor
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i was not ahead of him

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i was NOT ahead of him

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i was behind the gold

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he dribbles forward

supple swallow
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The fact that the dribble just stuns people aint right

lavish anchor
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i get stunned despite being at the half court line

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and him

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being at the 3 point line

lament ember
lavish anchor
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its so stupid lol

supple swallow
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this isnt even powercreen, this is just pampering to fake hype

lavish anchor
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yeah lol

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golds dribble is stupid

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if it works

supple swallow
lavish anchor
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if it doesnt

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good for me

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ah yes

lament ember
lavish anchor
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me when the gold knocks down multiple members of my team while we try to defend

lament ember
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your teammates can mark his teammates

lament ember
lavish anchor
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what

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no

supple swallow
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"Let me defend this gold rq"
*Gold Passes to the other side of the court with a teammate
Unblockable Pass
"Let me defend his teammate rq"
*GOLD DRIBBLE AGAIN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF COURT

supple swallow
lavish anchor
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he has two

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actually

supple swallow
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That doesnt make it any comforting

lavish anchor
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ah yes im positioned

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then he just elbow passes

lament ember
lavish anchor
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lol

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???

lament ember
lavish anchor
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it cant

lament ember
lavish anchor
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thats a bug lol

lament ember
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you can with snatch or lock

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or emp reach

lavish anchor
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which isnt

simple falcon
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So it’s situational

lavish anchor
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good counterplay

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if you have to use a specific style to counter a move then thats not a good thing

simple falcon
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A big “if”

lament ember
supple swallow
lament ember
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not needle pass

simple falcon
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I honestly don’t know what to say

supple swallow
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Bro lock has been so powercrept and bugged out that its crazy that it didnt get downtiered to Rare atp

lavish anchor
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lock has the worst defense moves despite being

supple swallow
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it barely functions as a style and the only threat it has is the fact that it can awk

lavish anchor
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"the defense style"

frail bay
lavish anchor
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and the stun range is a radius

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let that sink in

lament ember
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it needs a rework really

supple swallow
lament ember
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you can still steal the ball from lock if he intercepts it

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and hands up does not work half of the time

lament ember
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his awk is okay tho

lavish anchor
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his awk is incredibly good

frail bay
lavish anchor
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its just that his moveset stinks lol

supple swallow
simple falcon
frail bay
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just sad ngl

supple swallow
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dont forget that hands up

frail bay
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where all the quality go?

lavish anchor
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icl

supple swallow
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for some reason

frail bay
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yes

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alot better

supple swallow
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gives you a slowdown effect

frail bay
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its not compareable

simple falcon
frail bay
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gold sound effects are terrible aside from awakening cutscene imo

supple swallow
simple falcon
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Akashi could’ve been so much better, but Chrollo actually can’t balance to save his life

supple swallow
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it just needs to be hype

simple falcon
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And then he doesn’t care

supple swallow
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and theres no dang bbz yter with any form of integrity other than "IM USING THIS OP STYLE TO DUNK ON OTHER PLAYERS" as if it isnt just everywhere and annoying

simple falcon
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Yeah

lavish anchor
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the fact that people just expected akashi to be mythic

simple falcon
lavish anchor
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but then when they announced that hes potentially gonna be a new rarity

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it was over

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lol

supple swallow
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bro i blame the fact that people voted for a new style

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bro everyone who voted for a new rarity needs to get their brain checked because we did NOT need a new rarity for the game

simple falcon
supple swallow
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it was literally fine as it is

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but nooo

lavish anchor
supple swallow
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we just needed to be hype

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we needed to look "cool'

simple falcon
simple falcon
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I actually feel like I’m doing stuff

supple swallow
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nuh uh emperor is fun because you get to be akashi and aura farm with op moves

lavish anchor
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i actually like interactive styles

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which is why i love styles like jackpot and star

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very good gimmicks

simple falcon
supple swallow
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god i hate the term "aura farm" from how many times its been used for literally anything cool

lavish anchor
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i consider star drive a gimmick

simple falcon
supple swallow
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the Drive has a gimmick?

lavish anchor
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and the full court self pass since its funny

simple falcon
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I guess like 1 2’s?

lavish anchor
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awakening star drive

supple swallow
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ohhh that one

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self oop

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i think?

lavish anchor
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no not self oop

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the uh

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one where you have to cooperate with teamates

supple swallow
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its been a while since ive played star

supple swallow
lavish anchor
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yeah

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you can get up to 15 points w it if you play w proper teammates

supple swallow
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man i hated when it first came out with full court dunks if u have a phantom teammate

frail bay
supple swallow
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like you couldnt do anything with it

frail bay
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gold shoulda been akashi and akashi shoulda been gold

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or maybe both coulda been support and defense

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instead of akashi being offensive and defense

simple falcon
frail bay
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in kb akashi makes his team go into zone

simple falcon
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Definitely

frail bay
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hes more support if anything

simple falcon
old hill
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EMPOROR is fine

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That y it’s so high rarity

frail bay
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4/10 ragebait

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nvm 2/10 ragebait

simple falcon
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At this point I’m just ignoring em

frail bay
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still not sure why they switched the roles tho im ngl

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doesnt make sense it be cuz copyright

lavish anchor
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gold

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had so much potential

frail bay
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ig cuz akashi got more hype idk honestly

frail bay
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or akashi is cooler

lavish anchor
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base couldve been a street basketball style
and awakening couldve been the orthodox style

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i think the styles are hindered by the fact that chrollo probably hasnt watched past s1

umbral cave
lavish anchor
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i was genuinely surprised when i heard that hayama wasnt flash

frail bay
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maybe someone in his team watched a lil bit

lavish anchor
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dude doesnt

lavish anchor
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know who hayama is

umbral cave
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Everyone knows it is.

simple falcon
lavish anchor
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yeah

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im assuming thats the case

umbral cave
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The animation in his awakening is identical to Hayama.

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That would make sense, and allow for a plea of ignorance.

simple falcon
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So anyway, what style do you think is getting a rework next?

umbral cave
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Unironically Gold.

lavish anchor
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uh

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hopefully sniper or phantom

simple falcon
lavish anchor
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please phantom

umbral cave
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Pressure is far too hated for it not to get touched upon.

lavish anchor
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i wanna play phantom again

umbral cave
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OUTSIDE of that, I hope Phantom gets one.

simple falcon
umbral cave
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Last I played, it was bugged. I think the recent update fixed it.

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Idk though.

lavish anchor
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ranked match so aids i hopped off bbz and played lego star wars

lavish anchor
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it actually got so bad i revisited the game lmao

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its like therapy

umbral cave
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Ranked has been unplayable since they removed pumpfake passing. Ill die on this hill.

dawn depot
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Like they fully made it not possible or you mean it being easily blockable.

barren ferry
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the games actually unplayable

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not only does emperor still exist untouched but thats not even why i said that sh

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gold is literally an autowin style i dont think i've held on to the ball for more than a second mind you im using ace

umbral cave
dawn depot
dawn depot
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Really lame PR.,

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He says “honestly guys…is it ok if i nerf emperor? i dont likr how op it is….” so he looks like he’s into balancing.

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Suggests smth that isn’t even a nerf.

vocal gyro
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lmk if i cooked on my 2 suggestions bruzz

dawn depot
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Then he says he doesn’t want to add more KNB chars like the community been asking for, bc they’re all too similar which is boring.

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Which was just him deflecting criticism of Gold being an alt Emperor.

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So he can be like “movesets are only so similar bc y’all made me drop him”.

umbral cave
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they're all too similar
There's only so much you can do in a basketball game. A game has limitations. An animated TV series has less.

solar sphinx
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or we could just

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remove rng

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and make everything fair

proven quail
proven quail
dawn depot
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Which is he talking about really.

proven quail
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some people just don't know how to adapt 🤷‍♂️

dawn depot
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Phantom, Sniper, Ace, Flash, Emperor, Star, and probably missing another.

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But in canon those are all really unique and distinguishable.

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He could still add Tatsuya Himuro’s Mirage Shooting.

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Or even Hanami or whatever his name’s is Spider Web.

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The reason stuff feels too similar is bc he doesn’t make moves unique.

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“oh for a dribble move let me make it have lots of iframes and go forward”

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“for a steal move let me make it auto grab balls”

regal crater
#

are we deadass 💔🥀

solar sphinx
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guaranteed block

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yeah so fuckin fair dude

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make the rich better

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great rng slop

terse wasp
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thats like 20 secs right there

umbral cave
rare coral
#

yeah so like their doing the red arua idea but their doing too much past the arua now

frail bay
#

he sold the game theres no way he can ever come back i think

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🥀

fossil nimbus
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Emperor nerfs are deserved

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still feel like they should've made Schizophrenia Akashi

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team play and playmaker in base and emperor eye playmaker in awk

molten parcel
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Bro we have gold that can counter emporor

hard urchin
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NAAAH THIS COMMUNITY

fossil nimbus
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Only on Shots should make it way more fair than Global CD

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imo

hard urchin
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move to awake or shots only the best opinion imo

molten parcel
#

Where can we vote

forest monolith
#

Why does perfection have a global cooldown

fossil nimbus
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idk how they would move it to awk

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Emperor and Emperor Defense already exist

robust meadow
#

i think a cool rebalance would be to heavily reduce the uptime so that if you predict their vision it gets countered

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and it takes skill to actually time

molten parcel
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Keep emperor define

fossil nimbus
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and replacing Emperor Dribble is lowering offense to favour defense

neat shuttle
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oh shoot theyre nerfing emperor lets go

molten parcel
#

Guys where can we vote

fossil nimbus
molten parcel
#

Ty

neat shuttle
#

honestly they should just remove emperor's reach anyway

balmy karma
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it shouldnt exist

neat shuttle
#

i dont get why they want to do superficial balances

lost galleon
neat shuttle
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theyre willing to remove gold's move but not emperor's reach, ts doesnt make sense

hard urchin
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GOOD BOY

lost galleon
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OMG

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OMG

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OMG

solid mountain
#

with emperor reach you can counter it

neat shuttle
balmy karma
#

best option is to move it to awkening and keep the pass

balmy karma
#

his base moveset is overpowered even without the reach

lost galleon
#

NERFS OF LIBERATION

solid mountain
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to

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replace

solid mountain
#

pressure

lost galleon
#

Uh add a move where you get banned for using gold

neat shuttle
#

add that to replace Emperor Reach too

neat shuttle
balmy karma
neat shuttle
#

honestly, emperor's base moveset is better than most of the mythical awks

solid mountain
#

Instead of Pressure Add sum like if a gold user is a 2 point area he does a unblockable layup

rustic verge
#

why are we giving emp nerfs :(

solid mountain
#

oh addbelial eye instead of pressure

void elbow
#

nerfing emperor dont make sense

neat shuttle
#

💀

balmy karma
solid mountain
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idk why they cant just add his belial eye

void elbow
balmy karma
dense crescent
#

Omg they are adding a visual effect

solid mountain
dense crescent
#

Hallelujah

dense crescent
solid mountain
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or instead of nerfing emperor, they should add sum when a emepror use reach on your screen

dawn depot
#

I'm fine with it only working on shots but.

solid mountain
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you would see there tryna

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take the ball

dawn depot
#

It is really weird Chrollo didn't just suggest a lower duration.

balmy karma
#

they are

dawn depot
#

I think lower duration is like the go to easiest fix most people would be ok with.

lavish anchor
#

THEYRE ELABORATING ON THE NERFS

void elbow
solid mountain
lavish anchor
dawn depot
#

This could also be a play.

neat shuttle
dense crescent
dawn depot
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Where if people complain enouigh after it just being on shots.

balmy karma
dawn depot
#

It gets reverted back to normal.

dense crescent
balmy karma
#

should you be able to destroy the entire balance of the game just because its canon to the show

dawn depot
neat shuttle
#

the game used to be actually interesting and now it's just 50 emperor reaches that turn the game into whoever can use emperor reach the best 😭

dawn depot
#

Exactly what they said unless you count Global CD as a real nerf.

dense crescent
wide pike
#

HAHAHA

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HAHAHHAHAHAHA

dawn depot
#

Global CD only when successful.

wide pike
#

THIS IS SO GOOOOOD

dawn depot
#

Is not really a nerf.

hard urchin
#

we did it guys...

wide pike
#

wait..

dawn depot
#

If it STAYS as only working on shots then that's amazing and BBZ saved...

wide pike
#

global cd is winning

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CRAP

dawn depot
#

But if it reverts.

wide pike
#

NOOO

#

ig its ok

hard urchin
wide pike
#

better than nothing

dense crescent
wide pike
#

PEAK

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PEAK

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PEAK

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REJOICE

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HALLEJASDJHASAD

dawn depot
#

I said if reverted.

dense crescent
#

If the mess it up they have a cd. If they do it then no one can use it after

#

They

dawn depot
#

Since he said if people comlain he'll revert it back to normal.

balmy karma
#

still wish its fully gone or moved to awk

wide pike
#

lalalalala

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lala

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lalala

neat shuttle
#

honestly, emperor reach shouldnt be able to block shots at all

void elbow
reef moon
#

FINALLY made it to champ nerf emperor

wide pike
neat shuttle
#

the fact that people can block shots without any skill at all is crazy 😭

dawn depot
reef moon
#

ts has so much range too

#

they jus slide into you and block it like hu

#

h

hard urchin
dawn depot
#

I'm happy with the nerf if it stays.

wide pike
neat shuttle
#

range should be nerfed to oblivion and it shouldnt block shots, ts dont make sense 😭

wide pike
#

it should be passes only tbh

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but shots is more counterable

hard urchin
#

17k message and finally they nerf that

wide pike
#

wait wait

wide pike
#

just pumpfake

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and if they dont jump

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BOOM

dawn depot
neat shuttle
wide pike
#

u cant jump during reaches duration right?

dawn depot
wide pike
#

crap

dawn depot
#

I used to think you couldn't too.

wide pike
#

i thought it was no jumps and no steals

robust knoll
#

you can t jump

wide pike
#

that woulda made it balanced

heavy ledge
#

сасали?

dense crescent
robust knoll
#

you can t do nothing when u activate it

dawn depot
#

You can't use Reach AFTER a jump, but you can jump and use reach.

#

Unless they changed it.

wide pike
#

wait lemme test rq

robust knoll
dawn depot
#

I tested this in a PS but may've been a bug.

balmy karma
#

i dont use emp

dawn depot
robust knoll
#

you do

dawn depot
#

You're able to first use Reach, and then you can jump around.

#

But can't jump and THEN use Reach.

#

That may've gotten changed though.

wide pike
#

i think

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i think its one those "cant use after block" thingies

dawn depot
#

You just tested?

dawn depot
#

But can't jump and then use Snatch Grab.

balmy karma
#

Having a style able to perfectly shoot, pass and defend still feels broken though imo even with the reach nerf

neat shuttle
#

reach, imo, shouldnt be able to work when theyre on the ground (seen way too many emperor's writhing on the ground and somehow get the ball 😭)

dawn depot
#

If Reach is nerfed then that upscales like every other style.

#

Since rn they're all kind of irrelevant in comparison to Emperor.

lost galleon
#

yo great minds think alike fr

neat shuttle
lost galleon
#

If you want to catch a loose ball pope your mobility move or zone

#

Why would I need an entire style with 0 defensive capability and 0 offensive capability just to catch blocks that I can alr catch with zone or a mobility move

#

Unless there is is a tech I don't know about why would anyone use fetch?

wide pike
#

wth is even going on

#

im never playing unranked again

limber kindle
#

Omg they are finally nerfing emp reach

#

Someone pinch me this must be a dream

wide pike
#

fr

#

im so happy

#

pressure removed

#

reach wont work on passes

#

its beautiful

balmy karma
wide pike
#

its still prolly the best move in the game

#

aside from maybe ace dribble

limber kindle
#

And with an indicator too

#

W CHROLLO

wide pike
#

it has an indicator

#

YESS

#

OH MY GOD

balmy karma
#

would use legit anything else unless my opponent likes throwing the ball randomly

limber kindle
wide pike
#

NO I DID NOT

#

thats actually so good

#

its an actual balanced move now

limber kindle
#

Its soooo good

#

Yes finally it's balanced

wide pike
#

i can just my dribble for when they use it

#

or pass

#

pumpfake passing would go so hard on them

#

cuz they wouldnt bother jumping

#

if i do a simple standing shot

hazy vigil
#

So have they added the balancing stuff yet? Can I play a ranked match without throwing up on myself?

limber kindle
#

Also now that it doesn't work on passes I think its fine it doesn't have global cd

lost galleon
#

Fetch might be the worst style in the game

lavish anchor
#

this suggestion might actually be put to rest now

umbral cave
#

Fetch has very niche uses, but in those uses it's uncontested.

#

I however, just want to actually roll gold.

#

I'm like.... +500 regular spins in. Over 150 Lucky spins.

#

Sunk cost fallacy hits hard.

#

Kill me.
Kill me.
Kill me.
Kill me.

lavish anchor
#

my condolences

umbral cave
#

A normal spin.;

#

This could've been gold.

#

I'm tweaking out.

#

That's the 4th Emperor.

#

2nd one on a normal spin.

umbral cave
#

Like why.

#

Why do these dweebs get Gold.

lavish anchor
#

i think jackpot is calling out to you

umbral cave
#

I've had jackpot, though I've gotten nine of them in total going for Gold.

lavish anchor
#

honestly

#

i kinda forgot how gold gameplay felt

#

all i remember is how easy it was lol

umbral cave
#

Do I need to write a petition to Chrollo? Good god.

lavish anchor
#

and how chain dribble just

#

died

umbral cave
#

That dribble is absurd.

#

Why it stuns everyone in a radius is beyond me.

#

I like it purely for the distance. The stun is absolutely unnecesary.

lavish anchor
#

its radius is wide too

umbral cave
#

Yeah, it's like 15 studs.

lavish anchor
#

i was

shell forum
#

I spun off jackpot cuz I was in a scrim and my other teammate had jackpot

lavish anchor
#

around half court right

#

and this gold was around the 3 point line

#

i was behind the gold and he dribbled forward

#

i still got stunned somehow

#

it baffled me lmao

umbral cave
#

Yeah, it's absurd.

#

Gold is unironically very fun to play if you're in a call with one or two people on the same team.
Otherwise it's just as brainrot as Emperor is.

lavish anchor
#

yeah

#

i remember

#

this one specific

#

thing

#

where i let an ace do 100% drive

#

only for me to pressure him out of it

umbral cave
#

I did that, except for Athletic fade.
Either instance is a guaranteed crash out.

lavish anchor
#

i may have felt braindead when using the style but i cant deny that i found it hilarious lol

umbral cave
#

Oh it;s hilarious.

#

I try to avoid using pressure however, because my team very seldom manages to cover everyone.

lavish anchor
#

yeah

umbral cave
#

I only use it for one on ones.

lavish anchor
#

doesnt pressure have

#

a secret gimmick

umbral cave
#

Uhhh......

lavish anchor
#

where it can score

#

im not sure

umbral cave
#

If it does, I havent seen it.

lavish anchor
#

but it was mentioned somewhere

umbral cave
#

I doubt it, honestly.

lavish anchor
#

ifs only for 1s

#

apparently

umbral cave
#

I've never heard of that,

#

good for you.

#

But I don't see that being a thing.

wary umbra
#

yooo unc

umbral cave
#

Namely due to how difficult that would be to fit in without breaking something.

#

Whadyawant?

wary umbra
#

unc how r u doin

umbral cave
#

Tweaking out.

wary umbra
#

why

lavish anchor
umbral cave
#

151 Lucky Spins, +500 regular spins (lost count), 3m cash, No gold.

lavish anchor
#

im not sure

#

what this means

#

lol

umbral cave
#

Instead, I have rolled:
9 Jackpots
5 Aces
5 Copycats
4 Emperors
3 Giants

glossy heath
wary umbra
lavish anchor
wary umbra
umbral cave
#

I got Emperor within 4 rolls on lucky spins.

umbral cave
#

Huh.

wary umbra
vocal gyro
#

i spun him off too

lavish anchor
#

yeah

umbral cave
#

I don't remember this.

lavish anchor
#

its

#

ive never seen it happen

umbral cave
#

Is it like a 1% chance or something?

vocal gyro
#

he is?

#

i forgot who i traded him for

umbral cave
#

No I mean the move in the image.

#

Gold on normal spins is .25%.

#

Lucky is 1%.

vocal gyro
#

imma probably buy another slot

wary umbra
quiet cloudBOT
#

bigbongoping @cursive scarab, please do not tag/ping that member.

umbral cave
#

I've been rolling on a spare slot.

wary umbra
umbral cave
#

DUDE

#

EMP AGAIN

#

stop

wary umbra
#

dang

umbral cave
#

I BEG THEE, CHROLLO, SEND EMPEROR AWAY FROM THIS GODFORSAKEN ROLL

topaz acorn
#

emperor isnt rare anyway

#

epic rarity

#

it just says 0.25%

umbral cave
#

At this point I believe that.

#

That's 3/5 I've gotten on a normal spin.

topaz acorn
#

i had 7 emperors in total before getting copycat

umbral cave
#

Good lord.

#

I thought I had it bad.

#

Wth.

#

How many spins did it take you to get CC?

topaz acorn
#

since emp release i couldnt get cc so a lot

umbral cave
#

Jesus.

#

Copycat is goated. It's my main.

topaz acorn
#

its just that mythics have like 5 styles

#

its harder to get one of the mythics you want

#

compared to getting one miracle

umbral cave
#

But aschtkually, itsch easier since Mythics are .5 vs .25

#

🤓

topaz acorn
#

same way with emp and gold if there will be like 5 miracles in total

umbral cave
#

I hope to god not.

topaz acorn
#

its going to be pain to get exact one you want

umbral cave
#

I REALLY hope they don't add too many miracles.

topaz acorn
#

i just think all new styles are lowkey boring gold is okayish its just too broken its unfun to use

#

its not really a playmaker when you have best dribble in the game

#

you can just score yourself

umbral cave
#

i think it very much is a playmaker,

#

However it relies on you having coordinated teammates.

#

Or at the very least, teammates that know how to cover their marks, and can react to sudden passes.*

topaz acorn
#

not really you just use your dribble stunning 2 players then score

umbral cave
#

If you're relying solely on the dribble, then sure.

#

But that's once a minute,

#

Or once every three possessions, roughly.

umbral cave