Emperor Nerfs | Completed!

[clever plinth]

They can't now bro they already released it🤣

[wary forge]

they should make chemical reactions blockable and awakening shots too but in a different way

but like wayy more difficult

[slate perch]

I don’t believe there was any testing done

I genuinely also thought reach would get a global cd

It didn’t

[serene cipher]

The pressure ball release is quite confusing as I saw it went through the opponent back to me

Soo I don't know if it was intended

Or not

[slate perch]

Nothing is intended anymore

They’re just pumping out styles

New update

New bug

Now the ball just decides to not move

[clever plinth]

Gold is super buggy bro

[serene cipher]

But u gotta keep them credits for weekly these past months

[clever plinth]

I created star jump with gold😭
If anyone wants to see

[serene cipher]

That's a feat

I'm just happy u can block certain skills that looked it supposed to be unblockable on dunks

[clever plinth]

131 denied is crazy on emp nerf

[slate perch]

I’ve seen bro just stop moving

[clever plinth]

Bro leaped for the moon

[clever plinth]

It's happened to me your forced to reset

[slate perch]

But bro

I’d rather you take 2 weeks for something not buggy

Than take one and pump out what ever this is

[wide pike]

id rather gold took a month

and they added bug fixes with it

[clever plinth]

And yet it's still buggy crazy

[wide pike]

no i mean id rather have it so they fixed all the bugs and had gold delayed a month

[clever plinth]

Same

It's so annoying when your character just freezes forcing u to reset and lose the ball

And can't switch styles unless u got a style slot or u spin it

[wary forge]

WTF IS THAT???

[clever plinth]

Star jump😭

With gold😭

I leaped for the moon😭

[wary forge]

wait

why is he like

flung

also gold had a sky leap?

[clever plinth]

Fr🤣

[wary forge]

honestly that sounds so based

i might spin for it

[clever plinth]

Idk how I managed to glitch against the wall but I just wanted my awk 3 shot

[wary forge]

wait is it only possible with fake drive

or was it a different move

[clever plinth]

So there is 2 variations

[wary forge]

yea

[clever plinth]

The pass if your to far away.
And the 3 point shot on vid

[wary forge]

yes

[near notch]

gold's pressure is hard to use correctly

[clever plinth]

Then there is the first move which I do not understand atol heard u dunk with it

[near notch]

should use it to stop unstoppable shots/dribbles

but still a 50/50 to teammates catch it

[clever plinth]

Yea I said it's 50/50 to

[near notch]

but if teammates are good

will be like 70-80%

[clever plinth]

This is exactly it

If they ain't marking the move will mess u up

[near notch]

i rarely used it but everytime my teammates could catch it

love this style

[clever plinth]

I prefer the pass variation it's quite useful

[wary forge]

if enemies are good?

[clever plinth]

Fr lol

[near notch]

so still a 50/50

[clever plinth]

No if ur tm8s are good u get the ball

[near notch]

the ball will bounce to the furthest enemies

or someone who has dribbles

[clever plinth]

Pressure move=forced pass to nearest tm8.
If your tm8s mark the enemies they can get the ball

[near notch]

just don't use pressure while u can block the shots

[near notch]

i saw thats furthest

[clever plinth]

Idk

[near notch]

or bounce randomly to enemies

fair for the bypass iframe

change 100% score to 50% score is crazy

somehow it would bounce randomly like clutch's pressure if u use right before enemies re passing

[clever plinth]

Clutch pressure has a few diffrent scenarios xd

Kinda weird

1st u can smack the ball away
2nd u can reduce accuracy on their pass if u just messed up slightly
3rd u get ankle broken lol

[near notch]

don't spam it like a noobie

[clever plinth]

I dont

[near notch]

then ur pressure is unstoptable

[clever plinth]

Gotta time it

[near notch]

ye

gold's dribbles carry a whole style

[clever plinth]

When u land jump shot the feeling is Fantastic cause it's soooo bad🤣

[near notch]

easy to use and can stun a whole team

nerf pls

[clever plinth]

Fr

[near notch]

fetch and star are the best duo/counter for gold

ggs

[clever plinth]

Yea fr fetch w counter

[near notch]

but fetch x gold is insane

[clever plinth]

Fr

Together unstoppable

Btw gold zone is just a better version of style playmaker 😭

[near notch]

"oh dude buff pressure" man its too good for bypass all non-cutscence moves

[clever plinth]

Fr

[near notch]

its UNBALANCED as hel

4 dribbles with speed dribbling

[clever plinth]

Ik😭

[near notch]

how

can drive half a court for just dribbles

[clever plinth]

Playmaker is a shadow in comparison😭

[near notch]

nerf pls chrollo

[near notch]

the force dunk is abit useless

[clever plinth]

Yea

[near notch]

still can be blocked

[clever plinth]

Both zone and style forced dunk can be blocked

Every dunk is blockable except giant dunks I think

[near notch]

nerf emp/ace when

[umbral cave]

Lol.

Lmao, even.

[near notch]

can be stolen by jackpot

[clever plinth]

Ah

[umbral cave]

Giant dunk is broken anyway.

[clever plinth]

Fr

[near notch]

jackpot and gold can handle that

but i sometimes use it for bait pass

bait jackpot's steal and get 3pts

[clever plinth]

Yea u can pass

[near notch]

spam jump and all good

ggs

[clever plinth]

Fr

Learned that yesterday

🤣

[vocal gyro]

js got absolutely shafted tryna spin loki

Worse code ive ever experienced

[hazy vigil]

Gotta be the most unfun update I've touched in a minute imagine I'm using quick step drive on flash and then the gold decides "no I frames for you" or when I'm doing athletic drive and another gold just devours my dribbling

I'm losing my mind genuinely

Why why why did we feel the need to add pressure defense to a style and completely remove what made it balance it's

I can't take it

The pain and agony of facing an emperor and gold

The gold pressures the ball and guess what emperor's reach will catch the loose ball instantly so they already found a way to guarantee possession

[wide pike]

its horrible

and their solution is: "you guys dont like miracles??? fine.... we'll add 2 more limiteds.

[radiant karma]

unbalanced slop

havent touched BB0 since this upd

[faint basin]

i wonder if BLR was ever like this

i never played it so i wouldn’t know

[radiant karma]

i heard its worse in BLR

[faint basin]

and it is because they have BLR players coming into our general chats rn asking for chrollo to come back

all because of their recent update

[radiant karma]

is the loki update that bad

[faint basin]

i heard BLR closed down their general chats because of all the hate

[radiant karma]

what's wrong with it

[faint basin]

no idea

[lavish anchor]

what even happened

[faint basin]

idk what they’re mad about

[lavish anchor]

lmao

[radiant karma]

they gotta realize

BB0 is heading the same way as BLR

asking for chrollo back wont change jack

[lavish anchor]

yeah

[radiant karma]

even i want chrollo gone

[lavish anchor]

i believe that tatlis can manage the game better icl

[faint basin]

chrollo can’t even change that game if he comes back it’s already in a horrible state

[radiant karma]

we'll see in the chrollo vs tatlis event

ohhh so that's why they hate it

they made a new rarity

[faint basin]

chrollo would probably add a new rarity to BBZ too

[hazy vigil]

The style is essentially wally west on the court with a speed passive that makes you faster and an a skill that also increase your speed

In layman's terms the devs have lost their minds

[night kayak]

Preview for what we’re getting next

[hazy vigil]

The style also has braindead defense and can go half court with a skill

[night kayak]

😂

[radiant karma]

what's the bb0 equivalent

or explain in it bb0 terms

[hazy vigil]

Ace on crack

[faint basin]

Prime Perfection

[hazy vigil]

Ace on crack with defense

[night kayak]

So release perfection

[hazy vigil]

Perfection isn't as fast as current ace

Which is why I said ace

[faint basin]

still i’d say perfection in its prime is the most braindead style the game has ever had

[hazy vigil]

True

[night kayak]

I had a D1 crashout and didn’t play the game for a week after I played against 3 perfs in ranked

[lavish anchor]

catastrophic

lmao

[faint basin]

you’d see perfection nerf posts for a week in suggestions

it was really a crazy update

[lavish anchor]

"BUT PERFECTION IS MEANT TO BE PERFECT"

[radiant karma]

traumatic experience

having to argue with people on suggestions

never want to go through that again

[lavish anchor]

then came emperor

[radiant karma]

no everyone immediately knew emperor was broken

[faint basin]

perfection looked good in the sneaks

i thought it had a drive move

[lavish anchor]

i was never on board with the concept of a limited style

[hazy vigil]

Marketing wise it's like the lottery and we all know chrollo wants money

[vocal gyro]

i aint spending a dime on bbz again fr

blr aint even touched my pockets since chrollo

spinning off perfectionist for gold vision

ducking shafted again

friday 13th was yesterday wth

[radiant karma]

instead of spening ur money on bb0

spend it on me

[vocal gyro]

imma spend it on markipliers of

[wide pike]

new style has 25 move variants

first move is an off the ball move with 4 different ways to use it, and the on the ball one has 2 variants

second move is pretty similar

third move lets you swap between different variants of moves but its wierd

and the ult is a nightmare

[lavish anchor]

they done gave it a jrpg moveset

[wide pike]

the first move gets buffed and the variant swap move stacks with the buff

creating a million new moves

and after you use the first move twice 3 BRAND NEW MOVES POP UP

it totals up to like 20 no exxageration

[lavish anchor]

amazing

[faint basin]

i hate how miros treating that game i cant lie

i feel bad for the BLR community

[dawn depot]

I think maybe if there was one a month that could be tolerable.

But when the upd is Mythic, Limited, Miracle, Rare, Limited, Miracle, Limited, Limited.

It's just brainrot.

Either way I'm not getting on the game anymore.

More active on the thread than the experience. 😭

[faint basin]

New update there’s gonna be more miracles and limiteds combined than Legendaries btw

This game is cooked

[wary forge]

oh my god aint no way

blr actually trolled

they released a style that u can get on average with 641 lucky spins

LMAO

or 6410 normal spins

[storm blade]

Emperor doesn't need a nerfeo, he needs a buffet.

[wary forge]

let him eat

[vocal gyro]

CHROLLO

NERF MIRACLES AND MY MONEY IS YOURS

[storm blade]

No buff

Buff miracles

[slate perch]

^

[slate perch]

This is rage bait

[vocal gyro]

bump

[balmy karma]

Lets be honest they know already and are deliberately looking the other way addressing nothing at this point

The level of ignorance they're at if somehow they haven't noticed this suggestion is borderline malicious.

[vocal gyro]

real

[smoky trout]

reaching 600 fires so prolly

pretty sure chrollo also said in the qna that he actually LIKES making overpowered styles because theyre more fun to use

[wide pike]

i wouldn't count it out that they've seen this suggestion and are working on some kind of fix

unless im an idiot no developers spoke a word in the akashi suggestion and he was added

and i dont think anyone spoke in any of the blink nerfs either

this is probably just my wishful thinking but there's still some hope as devs have said they often check out suggestions but just don't say anywthing

[radiant karma]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-gif-1846075065280866456

[vocal gyro]

wish there was like a tutorial to make the shooting thing on roblox studios

than I would make my own basketball game

[balmy karma]

Imo I also think they have but am just pointing how it looks if they somehow haven't

[wide pike]

yeah it def looks liek that

[balmy karma]

But saying that they understand our problems and pushing out a "stability" update that does nothing to really solve the core issue rubs the wrong way.

Although it might be centerminded of me to think that emperor was a big enough issue

[smoky trout]

duper daiyan 3

[cold sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-ryan-gosling-gif-9431292619651857271

game was cooked from the start

game deving for any multiplayer game absolutely requires consideration of how good something feels to use AND HOW GOOD IT FEELS TO HAVE IT USED AGAINST YOU

if he really did say that then he completely lacks that consideration

[lavish anchor]

icl

chrollo cant be telling nobody to do better when his game is also going in an awful direction

like seriously bro

[tame tartan]

Hi

[supple swallow]

I love being completely outclassed in every aspect because i didnt get lucky

[fierce void]

keep it or spin ?

[lavish anchor]

spin

not that good anymore

[fierce void]

are you sure ?

[supple swallow]

can you afford to gamble it for a different zone?

[fierce void]

i need to

but 8 i think not Enough

[supple swallow]

die

[fierce void]

what i spin or ?

[supple swallow]

do what you want with it

but posting emperor in a thread specifically against how broken it is, aint really a smart idea

[fierce void]

sorry

[vocal gyro]

i really want this game to be good cause i cant make one yet

probably due to fear

[dawn flicker]

is gold balanced

[rough wigeon]

If youre quick enough jo steal can ROB from emperors reach. Its amazing

[vocal gyro]

hell no

undribbleable steal

[dawn flicker]

average chrollo being chrollo

[naive wigeon]

spin for sped dribble

[dawn flicker]

this post should be renamed to emperor & gold nerfs

[supple swallow]

i love full court dashes

[fierce void]

[naive wigeon]

sped dribble propaganda needs to be spread

[rare coral]

Basketball god is much more busted in that regard or copycat compared to empoer or perfection or gold dribbles

[supple swallow]

not really

[true matrix]

Gen sucks that all these mythic flows get power crept by miracle and limited flows

devs can’t think of anything unique so choose to js combine mythic flows in one flow and call it a day

[still crystal]

Blr is just gambling slop

If you want to win, you have to use meta styles

[true matrix]

Dw bbz is turning to that too

😂

[still crystal]

Well bbz acc takes skill and teamwork

Instead of blr where I can dribble till the air in the ball deflates

Cuz of insane hit boxes

[true matrix]

They js released emperor ace rework then now gold

[supple swallow]

dawg just use emp or gold and press C or V whgenever you feel like it

[true matrix]

these styles r mad broken

and if that trend continues eventually we gonna reach the point of blr

[naive wigeon]

what skill does bbz require

[supple swallow]

i love when teamwork is just 2 buttons

[still crystal]

Ace rework ❌
Ace buff ✅

[true matrix]

Yeah skill and teamwork is pushing it a lil

me when I use ace and use one button get to the other side of the court and get a free 3

[still crystal]

Or a free dunk

[faint basin]

holy chrollo is a marketing genius

[still crystal]

Bcs when u halfcourt u reach hoop

[vocal gyro]

wait…

[true matrix]

Gen sucks how people think Chrollo is sum god sent dev who is good

when in reality people forget he ruined blr too

and is slowly ruining bbz too

[still crystal]

One thing we can all agree is that chrollo is better than miro

[true matrix]

yeah but he’s still not good

[still crystal]

Seriously 0.15 chance from LUCKY SPINS?

[supple swallow]

I blame all of the people who wanted a new style rarity

[valid fulcrum]

Don’t nerf emperor

[still crystal]

Normal spins are better to get Loki bro

0.03

I mean 0.13

We need to get miro out of blr and back to blade ball 😭

[supple swallow]

the floodgates of "Rarity = Power" started when people only wanted brainless hype

we did NOT need a new rarity

and look at what happened

[still crystal]

Miracle is js world class

But cmon

Miro the bills cannot be this HIGH

loki was so hyped

Like 2.5 m people wanted loki

[lavish anchor]

"LMAO HE SAID DO BETTER MIRO W CHROLLO"

meanwhile chrollo putting bbz in the same direction as blr:

[true matrix]

Exactly

he said do better

And is releasing 2 limiteds in one update

??

Like what

[lavish anchor]

brother you arent doinf much better either

LMAOOO

gj chrollo

[vocal gyro]

def intentional

he a hypocrite fr tho

no room to talk about “doing better”

[lavish anchor]

fr though

dawg

[supple swallow]

theres no point in trying because its very likely that the majority of players will jump on the hype train with no thoughts behind them

[vocal gyro]

hate metas in games

like in db legends

[supple swallow]

metas are born out of how the game is balanced

rn its balanced around how recently released the style is and whether or not its Mircle tier

[vocal gyro]

blr ahh

[supple swallow]

if ur style wasnt updated 2 weeks then tough luck , ur not good

[vocal gyro]

fetch been actually been doing a “decent” job as a counter to gold

but still with how buggy and unconsistent it is its not that much of a counter

[supple swallow]

if ONLY there was a STYLE to COUNTER EMPEROR

[vocal gyro]

fr

i wish gold was his counter

like completely

[supple swallow]

bro

just make lock his counter or sum

[supple swallow]

Ah yes my favourite game, Emperor Ball Zero. Got robbed of 12 points because theres 2 of them and a copycat in the last 90s

[south finch]

bump

[vocal gyro]

[lavish anchor]

YO

YOOOOO

LMAOOOO

[winged ravine]

Bro ngl is pressure bugged or is it straight up passing to the enemy team?

bc every time I use it bc my teammate messes up a pass so I try to get possession back it just gives it to the enemy team

[forest anchor]

make emperors reach only able to block goals and not passes

[supple swallow]

HOLY

YES

GOATED CHROLLO

HE DID BETTER

[coarse halo]

in the show its used to block a pass lol

[forest anchor]

l;ol

i feel like

[forest anchor]

emperors reach

shouldnt be nerfed

but shud have a world cd

cos it is a miracle

[supple swallow]

It just pushes the ball away as if it was a super block, if it passes to the enemy team that just means they were behind them and caught it by accident

[forest anchor]

ok

[coarse halo]

no it does pass towards an enemy teammate

its been pushed towards me everytime my teammate got hit with it

but then it ends up in their favor anyway

into a turnover

for some reason

[supple swallow]

its funny how its almost the exact ratio that this thread has for emp nerfs

[lethal heath]

truee

[serene cipher]

Gawd dayum it worked tho

[lavish anchor]

after two weeks

[supple swallow]

no more emp reach spam

[lavish anchor]

finally

[lethal heath]

🙏

[supple swallow]

FINALLY

[serene cipher]

The emp reach really needed that global cd

[supple swallow]

WE DONT NEED TO SUFFER AGAINST EMP REACH SPAMMERS

THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY TRY NOW

[serene cipher]

The world is healing

[forest anchor]

JS ADD GLOBAL CD

BUT PLEEEAAASSSE

[quick turtle]

finally

[forest anchor]

DONT CHANGE IT ANYMORE

[quick turtle]

he listen

[forest anchor]

emp reach is so fun

and global cd

is so fair

[quick turtle]

yes for u and ur teammates

[forest anchor]

broooo

its a miracle for a reason

[lethal heath]

only fun for emperor users

[forest anchor]

bro

[quick turtle]

miracle not mean unbalance

[forest anchor]

whats the point of making it hard to get then

[lethal heath]

no one likes reach except for the ppl who cant defend without it

[lethal heath]

its not even hard to get

cus afk world exist

[supple swallow]

honestly just add animations for both emp reach and auto shoot before they actually activate so ppl know

[forest anchor]

bro

[lethal heath]

i could afk for like a day or two and get like 3 emperors

[lavish anchor]

emperor

[lethal heath]

or more

[lavish anchor]

hard to get?

[forest anchor]

i play against emp reach before

[lavish anchor]

are we seriousbbro

are we serious

[forest anchor]

bro

[supple swallow]

I think theyre serious ryuji

[forest anchor]

i used a million yen and didnt get basketball go

d

[lavish anchor]

you see

at least two or three emperors per server

that is NOT hard to get homie

[supple swallow]

the difference between that and emperor

[forest anchor]

so global cd fair

[supple swallow]

is that emperor isnt limited

[forest anchor]

fair

js

like bro

[lethal heath]

me personally i think they need to reduce the flow gain on ultimate pass

[supple swallow]

just add windup to both animations so we know when theyre active

[lethal heath]

ppl gonna start abusing ultimate pass now

[forest anchor]

bro ultimate pass

[supple swallow]

one pass and its abasically half full

[forest anchor]

is lowkey underrated

[forest anchor]

fr

[supple swallow]

its not underrated

[lethal heath]

its broken depending on what flow ur teammate has

[supple swallow]

its the same key

as Reach

[lethal heath]

like if ur teammate has gold vision

[supple swallow]

it needs a nerf by giving it animations

[lethal heath]

thats wraps for the enemy team

[supple swallow]

Give Emp Reach a Startup animation and give Ultimate pass-auto shoot a delay before shooting

either that or remove its ability to be used for 3pts

cause its stupid

[forest anchor]

ye

but

like

what if theres 3 people on the person

or smth

nvm

[supple swallow]

you either 2pt or dunk

you have to think

[forest anchor]

ok

[supple swallow]

its not lobotomized gameplay anymore

[winged ravine]

Also before we start taking away ability’s FIX THE GAME gold has to be the new nel isagi for the amount of new animation bugs in the game now

[blazing portal]

Finally a Chrollo W

Adding global cd for reach

And chaging this annoying gold move

[dawn depot]

Still feel like Reach alone needs a nerf but good start.

[topaz acorn]

i mean global cd doesnt fix any problems

its just 20 second window between steals

[dawn depot]

Yeah it’s like how I wanted Sniper Rework.

[naive wigeon]

about damn time

[dawn depot]

But then they added Sniper chem reaction.

[naive wigeon]

team cd is way better

[dawn depot]

It doesn’t really fix the issue but.

People are gonna see it as excuse to not nerf it.

Bc “it already got nerfed”.

[topaz acorn]

id say it needs 1 min global cooldown it still will be powerful regardless

cuz having one steal per 1 min is still broken anyways

[dawn depot]

More than global cd I just wanted duration cd.

Or vfx.

[topaz acorn]

yeah doubt they wil do anything about it

[dawn depot]

20 sec global cd doesn’t fix any real gameplay issues.

Less tedious but people are just distancing cd.

So instead of 5 reaches every minute.

It’s gonna be 1 reach every 20 seconds.

[true matrix]

finally chrollo

[topaz acorn]

its not a nerf

[true matrix]

yeah but I’ll still take anything atp 😭

I’m js tired of the game being stalled by back and forth a between emperors

[topaz acorn]

its just an excuse to not make it less broken

[wary plover]

check #📊・polls idiot LOLLLL

[dawn depot]

This is the issue though, it’s the ILLUSION of a fix so people say “w chrollo now emp is balanced”.

[wary plover]

WAA WAA WAA

[true matrix]

I js wish devs had more communication

do they even have a balance team

[rare coral]

Giving reach a tinted arua when it’s in use would have been a perfect nerfed

Becuase you could go for a dunk

And they can’t stop it

[wary plover]

they dont want the game to be super unbalanced and die airhead, why wouldnt they nerf it??

[dawn depot]

Global CD was honestly laziest fix I hoped they wouldn’t do.

[wary plover]

they really need to remove the auto shoot

like what kinda play is that in basketball

[dawn depot]

It’s a bandaid fix more than anything sadly. So you don’t see five reaches in a row you’re like “its not that bad”, when in reality it’s just as bad to see Reach working every 20 seconds.

Issue of move is that it’s still just free possession bc of how long it lasts and how you can’t tell when it’s up.

Way worse than Gold’s pressure which he called unfun.

[wary plover]

yeah it isnt the fix we were hoping for but im still jumping for joy that it was actually acknowledged

[dawn depot]

Yeah it’s a start but this may be worse than no nerf, because this might mean this is as far as they hope to balance Emp.

[wary plover]

true that

an indicator would be nice

[dawn depot]

Indicator would be great. I’d also be happy with duration being like 3s instead of 7.5.

Even with the global cd Emp is gonna be meta pick.

Only diff is people are gonna be fighting for first use when off cd.

[wary forge]

WHAT

Is this fake

Chrollo on everyone's soul ur the goat

BETTER THAN MIRO

[topaz acorn]

honestly even 1 to 1.5 sec it would be powerful

and i think it should be 1 sec duration

reason is that you would need to time it properly

to be rewarded

[true matrix]

Problem is the community is filled with people who want the game to play for them

they wanna get across the map w 1 skill

they wanna block by pressing 1 button

🥀

[topaz acorn]

yeah i know its just how i think high reward should require some kind of thinking

[lament ember]

I think having an indicator for emperor would ruin the style especially since its a miracle, its best if chrollo sticks with the global cd

[naive wigeon]

gutting emp reach wouldnt make emp fall to even top 3, since ultimate pass and forced shot are cracked

[true matrix]

Definitely agree, makes it way more fun too. I would feel like Akashi for blocking stuff if I actually timed it instead of having a 8 second window where I stare at them

[topaz acorn]

"since its miracle" bro seeing rares or epics is more rare than seeing miracles

you dont realize how easy it is to get spins i nthis game

rarity means nothing when you get millions of attempts to get it in a week

[lament ember]

ultimate pass can be intercepted with lock or giant that's fair

[wary forge]

Force shot is rlly slow when shot u can block it if u get lucky or just use star or giant to retrieve it

[true matrix]

Forced shot should js be a normal shot, not sure why it’s so fast that it breaks the shooting ani

[dawn depot]

Global CD isn’t even a nerf, it’s a change.

It does not objectively make the style any less good.

[true matrix]

I think he’s talkin bout the fact it has forced shot and gives flow

[wary forge]

The 137 people looking at this💀

[topaz acorn]

aint no one's using lock just to intercept ultimate pass and also you get 30% zone meter to someone who got emp's pass

[lament ember]

you can just predict forced shot

[naive wigeon]

notice how you didnt address forced shot

[naive wigeon]

syfbau

[lament ember]

use giant then

[true matrix]

Trust me if they have 1 brain cell it’s impossible to block

You can only predict it if they spam it lol

[topaz acorn]

why am i forced to use giant just to counter one move bro whats your logic 🤪

[naive wigeon]

forced shot with speed dribble is just plain stupid

[wary forge]

Giant or stun, me personally I like using star

[true matrix]

In reality forced shot option lasts for long time enough to mix people

[wary forge]

People also told me to use ts and ts to counter ts and I took the advice

[true matrix]

I see people instantly jump when they ult pass

[naive wigeon]

is ur main giant

[lament ember]

I'm offering you solutions but you don't wanna listen, I'm also not forcing you to play giant you can have your teammates play them

[wary forge]

Giant is super good

[true matrix]

These aren’t solutions that are balanced tho

[naive wigeon]

in 2v2s. in pubs its obsolete

[true matrix]

That js means the game is poorly balanced

[topaz acorn]

your solutions is an excuse to keep stuff broken

gtfo

[naive wigeon]

yours are half-baked solutions bro

[wary forge]

Or just use copycat and copy reach or snatch block

[lament ember]

I don't really main it I play with various styles including giant

[naive wigeon]

🥶

[wary forge]

Still can save?

In 3s

Shot? V

[lament ember]

I'm not saying we shouldn't nerf emperor, I think having the global cd for emperor reach is enough

[naive wigeon]

realistically giant is the worst mythic rn

[true matrix]

Here’s my hot take: styles shouldn’t be countered by other styles but rather you should be able to stop them w base mechanics in the game if you are skilled

[lament ember]

skull

[wary forge]

True, ace and copycat are better since one can copy and the other is broken

[naive wigeon]

ts is not a hot take; this type of debate has been going on ever since pump fake passing became more widespread

[maiden minnow]

real 🙏

[naive wigeon]

what does he mean by this

[true matrix]

The style moves should js make it easier to score and pass and create opportunities to fake out and score

[wary forge]

Jackpot is also good

[topaz acorn]

surely it will fix all the problems bro! global cooldown that lasts 20 seconds will surely fix emperor and make it balanced!

you know whats the problem

[wary forge]

Better than nothing rn

[naive wigeon]

copycat is just an enjoyable style man, it gets buffs everytime braindead styles drop lmao

[true matrix]

it’s a hot take because it’s widely debated and not everyone agrees

[lament ember]

it will lol, everyone's been saying the same thing about perfection and now barely anyone uses it

[topaz acorn]

20 second gc gives you same 3 emp reaches as it would be without the global cooldown do some thinking bro

[naive wigeon]

yh ur right 🤑 who doesnt agree tho

[true matrix]

Ace dribble needs a nerf 🥀

[naive wigeon]

the sky is blue

[true matrix]

and maybe a slight copy cat dribble nerf

[wary forge]

Copycat can play the new style without even owning it

[lament ember]

these takes are so coldb

😭

[naive wigeon]

are u a giant main

[topaz acorn]

perfection doesnt have an auto steal ability it simply blocks without taking the ball theres many counterplays against that alongside the fact that you can miss the blink

[wary forge]

We need a gold dribble nerf tho

[lament ember]

I use many styles not just giant

[topaz acorn]

and as i said 20 sec global cooldown = 3 emp reaches in one minute same as without 20 sec global cooldown

doesnt fix any problem at all

[naive wigeon]

i use many styles too and i have a main

is ur maingiant

ts

[lament ember]

No

[naive wigeon]

good

[lament ember]

I'm using flash and gold the most atm

[naive wigeon]

omd flash 😭

[true matrix]

No not really

Perfection is diff

Cuz it got a global cd AND nerfs

I’m not sure if you saw them, but blink got nerfs alongside a global cooldown

[lament ember]

well what are your suggestions for an emp nerf

because having an indicator is dumb and will ruin the whole move

[topaz acorn]

?

[true matrix]

adding an indicator for when it’s active + reducing the duration

[wary forge]

Miracle defenders will just have some crazy free ball possesion later😭

[topaz acorn]

this guy is a troll

what is he even talking about

[lament ember]

god forbid someone disagrees with you

[topaz acorn]

no you are just delusional the way you think is crazy

[true matrix]

frankly if you don’t want an indicator instead we could js decrease the duration to like 1 second

it should be skilled

[lament ember]

1 s is wild lmfao

[true matrix]

Not a whole window where you stare at someone to block anything

[naive wigeon]

reduce it to 5s and give it an indicator

[lament ember]

67 cd and you want it to be a second only?

[true matrix]

why not? Giant and star are p similar

[naive wigeon]

thats all it needs ngl

[topaz acorn]

you steal the ball you s t e a l the ball by pressing one button it changes the whole pace of the game

[radiant karma]

Who hacked chrollo's account

[true matrix]

Again giant is p similar lol

[radiant karma]

This is not chrollo

[lament ember]

these suggestions are just butchering emp

[topaz acorn]

lol

[naive wigeon]

30 lucky spins and emp global cd 🙏

[true matrix]

god forbid the game is balanced

[naive wigeon]

omd

[lament ember]

giant requires skill and timing to use but the advantage is that it gives you mobility and space

[true matrix]

and requires you to think instead of pressing a button

[naive wigeon]

whats ur top 5 styles

[naive wigeon]

ace requires more skill 😈

[true matrix]

How about in exchange we reduce the cd

[lament ember]

top 5 styles I use or top 5 I think are the best in the game

[true matrix]

for it being 1 second

Or you know? Adding an indicator

[naive wigeon]

the best

[true matrix]

“This would butcher emperor” still has a guaranteed 3 against a mark

[lament ember]

emp gold giant jp and either perfection or copycat

not in order

but emperor is possibly number 1

[vocal gyro]

making a video on bbz issues lmk ur complaints

[naive wigeon]

damn, didnt know people still had jp over copycat

[lament ember]

copycat is overrated

[naive wigeon]

explain

[true matrix]

not really

[vocal gyro]

hes pretty op

[true matrix]

copycat dribble is a free 3

[naive wigeon]

everything after jackpot

[lament ember]

it's situational and the dribble isn't even that great

[radiant karma]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-beverley-patrick-beverley-nba-timberwolves-gif-11752728165167489486

[naive wigeon]

hes proper op

[true matrix]

what more do you want than a free 3 at the line

[naive wigeon]

wdym situational

[lament ember]

hardly a 3

[vocal gyro]

can have 4 free dribble moves

and ez 3s

[slate thunder]

Holy yap

[true matrix]

It quite literally is a 3 if you go sideways past someone using the first skill

[naive wigeon]

i dont know why u say this while being a flash main 😭

[vocal gyro]

mfs cant js talk anymore god forbid

[lament ember]

you can only really get decent copy moves if there's a decent style playing in the round, like flash or emperor

[naive wigeon]

which is every single match

[lament ember]

Hardly

[true matrix]

when’s the last time you played in a lobby without a decent skill to copy tho

[naive wigeon]

limiteds? who is running limiteds 💀

[true matrix]

are you in new lobbies or sum

[naive wigeon]

when does that happen bro

[slate thunder]

Some.....

[naive wigeon]

i got 2 golds and an emp

[lament ember]

and what are you going to do if you copy a move that requires you to be in the 2 point line

[naive wigeon]

in my lobby

[true matrix]

I face a emperor or gold every match

[naive wigeon]

simply not copy that style

golds and emps are everywhere

[lament ember]

genuine question what's your level atm

[naive wigeon]

god bless their souls

[naive wigeon]

i dont play rn 😩

[topaz acorn]

so realistically why you think giant top style in the game but if emp reach gets its duration to 1 sec how will it be butchered explain

[lament ember]

give an estimation

[slate thunder]

I already found someone with basketball god

[topaz acorn]

if giant's snatch is basically 1 sec duration

[naive wigeon]

also how is that relevant

[naive wigeon]

like 50 or smth

[naive wigeon]

i hope the devs do nothing with bbg, it deserves to be the "NO, YOU JUST DONT GET IT" style

[lament ember]

when joining a servers there's server with level requirements, so you'd basically join people that have the similar level range as you

[lament ember]

what are you supposed to do if the opponent feints and your cd runs out

[naive wigeon]

no, this system is highly unreliable and has caused many people to protest the discontinuation of pro servers. i had 60 OVRs bro

[slate thunder]

Honestly they should bring some limiteds from time to time..yk?
So some ppl can actually get it

[naive wigeon]

and are you insinuating that high level servers dont have broken styles?

[lament ember]

emp reach also has 0 mobility so even if you do catch that 1 frame block you'd still be surrounded

[radiant karma]

Can't believe I'd see the day emperor gets nerfed I'm flabbergasted

[naive wigeon]

emp reach would still be broken if you have comms

[naive wigeon]

let perf and bbg rot 😈

[topaz acorn]

so your logic is that emp reach should be a guaranteed auto steal with no counterplay right?

[slate thunder]

NOOO😭 I WANT PERFECT CELL BRO🙏😭

[topaz acorn]

got it

[slate thunder]

His ult move is so peak

[lament ember]

60 ovrs are possibly people joining in on there friends list

[naive wigeon]

who tf is voting on these polls bro 😭 one day they say emp isnt too OP, the next they want emp global cd

[naive wigeon]

no, they had noob avatars

[lament ember]

with a global cd

[naive wigeon]

erm skill issue 🙏

[slate thunder]

I just couldn't get my luck is aas

[topaz acorn]

yes global cd will be a good nerf.. who cares about 7 second duration of emp reach

[clever plinth]

This will be nice xd

[radiant karma]

Who gives a damn abt those bums we getting the nerf 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[topaz acorn]

who cares that the amount of emp reaches will still remain the same

nah global cooldown is a good nerf it will make the game balanced!

[radiant karma]

BB0 might finally be playable again

I bet chrollo for the first time played his game and got spammed with pressure and emperor reach

[topaz acorn]

the fact people actually think that 20 sec global cooldown is a good nerf to make emperor somewhat balanced surprises me

[clever plinth]

Fr xd

[topaz acorn]

and they are happy they enjoy that

which means emp wont ever get a proper nerf

and will remain top 1 regardless

[radiant karma]

The standards are low

[lament ember]

sounds like a skill issue atm

[radiant karma]

We'll take any kind of nerf atp

[lament ember]

I don't even main emperor but emperor reach just needs a global cd

[topaz acorn]

sorry you cant provide any argument

except for skill issue

[lament ember]

maybe decrease its duration to 5s

[topaz acorn]

yeah it will fix the problem

[lament ember]

you're complaining alot instead of adapting to the game

[topaz acorn]

def will

[lament ember]

it will

[topaz acorn]

this guy bro

no way hes serious

hes ragebaiting

[lament ember]

I'm being dead srs

[topaz acorn]

then go adapt fightning 100 gorillas at once

just adapt skill issue

give emp reach 0 cooldown just adapt bro

[lament ember]

what kind of argument is that

[clever plinth]

Your the one ragebaiting be happy emp gets a nerf

[topaz acorn]

thats not a nerf

as i said

20 gc = 3 emp reaches in one minute

same way without any gc

in a 3v3s

use your brain

a little bit more

[lament ember]

you can do alot with 20seconds instead of waiting for another emp reach

[topaz acorn]

any human being will understand thats not a nerf and that it wont fix anything

if they are above 70 iq of course

[topaz acorn]

okay

[lament ember]

the example ur providing is also situational when there's 3 emperors

do you really think you're gonna find 3 emps that easily

[lavish anchor]

unfortunately yes

[topaz acorn]

yes exaclty now imagine 2v2 with one emp

20 gc wont do anything

at all

you dummy

[clever plinth]

Usually 2 in every match I play

[topaz acorn]

its not a nerf

[clever plinth]

On the opposite side not counting my own tm8s

[radiant karma]

Yes

[topaz acorn]

20 gc is nothing its not a nerf it does nothing emp reach will still change pace of the game regardless of it being 20 sec gc or 60 sec gc you'll still have a huge advantage of taking the ball

let alone one block can change the whole game

cuz the hardest part is to actually take the ball

most of the times you win 2v2s just cuz you get the ball first

[lavish anchor]

to be fair

by the time those 20 seconds are over

theres gonna be another shot anyway

so it doesnt really change much

i doubt its gonna change how emperor reach feels tbh

[topaz acorn]

it does nothing

[lament ember]

it changes the ball getting auto blocked continuously??

[topaz acorn]

its not an issue

that its auto blocked 3 times in 10 seconds

its not an issue

[lavish anchor]

continuously

[topaz acorn]

it will be the same with 20 gc

regardless

[lavish anchor]

but if you play properly

they can still cycle reach no problem

lol

[lament ember]

if you play properly you can just bait out their reach

lol

[topaz acorn]

alright

[lament ember]

you can even counter it with golds needle pass

[small dust]

They can alaso play properly and not fall for your bait, whats the point being made lol

[lavish anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

[lavish anchor]

i dont think that makes it any better

[lament ember]

it's all prediction

[lavish anchor]

that i have to use specific styles to counter a single move

[small dust]

But the other person is always at a massive disadvantage due to the handicap and window emperor reach gives, so the other player is always on the backfoot prediction or not

[lament ember]

ok but surely ur not gonna pull chuck into comp

lol

[true matrix]

no but I wanna be able to use any style in the game for fun without being at an extreme disadvantage

[lament ember]

which is why I suggest the global cd nerf and a slight duration decrease

any more nerf is gonna butcher emperor, its a miracle for a rsn

[true matrix]

Adding an indicator would make more sense

[clever plinth]

Rip

[true matrix]

Js a red aura or sum text splash

or both

[topaz acorn]

also whoever thinks 20 sec GC is a good nerf it still keeps the same amount of total emp reaches during one match regardless

[lament ember]

this isn't yba

lmfao

[small dust]

And youre also only seeing it from the perspective of a 1v1, if Emperors reach applies pressure that makes it so you have to keep the ball to yourself for the duration its up, and during that duration nothing stops the other 2 players from going in and spamming steal pressure on you, so youre forced into a 1v3 justb y someone using emperors reach bc u cant pass or shoot youre relying purely on the 3 dribbles you have

[true matrix]

brother most of the game has effects

[small dust]

emperors reach is a literal trump card in its current state no matter its duration

[true matrix]

and emperor vision flow has text

😭

adding an indicator is not that insane

[topaz acorn]

lets say 3v3 3 emperors use emp reach and theres no gc during 7 mins you can use 18 reaches in total with 70 sec cooldown

now you get 20 GC and it stays the same 18 emp reaches in total

[true matrix]

yeah it’s a bandaid fix

[topaz acorn]

so whats the point of a gc if outcome will be the same

[true matrix]

it needs nerfs

[topaz acorn]

whole concept behind emp reach is just stupid

its a big problem

[small dust]

It needs a rework, its fundamentally broken as it is right now, the ability should be a low CD Ability split into two that share a CD with eachother, if you use one ability u guarantee steal a pass, the other guarantee steals a shot, now you have to actually use your skill & understanding of the game to predict what ur opponent does, and bc its low CD its a constant threat on the field, it fits emperors thematic perfectly

[true matrix]

never shoulda been a time frame type steal

[lament ember]

I don't even main or use emperor but I don't even mind emp reach that much

[true matrix]

where you have to look at them 😭

honestly we can keep the long duration

If instead

You had to actually do sum

during that window

other than press a button

[lament ember]

like what

[true matrix]

idk dawg literally anythin maybe jump and it acts as a better block w less end lag

[small dust]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1383762777826398288

[lament ember]

maybe if there emp reach ends and they don't auto block it they could get stunned

[topaz acorn]

i agree emp reach needs a rework cuz people wont be satisfied if it gets nerfed really hard despite it still being broken for what it does

[lament ember]

since there's no indicator if it finishes or not

[topaz acorn]

so it wont ever fix the problem

just remove emp reach replace it with another ability

the only way to do something about it

[still crystal]

Can we lowk talk about what miro did to blr

[radiant karma]

No

[true matrix]

No cuz who cares

[topaz acorn]

blr is irrelevant

its cooked

[lament ember]

Idk about that idea, especially it having a low cd

[topaz acorn]

bbz slowly gets cooked too

i mean its been

but

i doubt it will be worse

[radiant karma]

I feel like chrollo was hesitant on giving emp a nerf

[true matrix]

emp reach js needs sum sort of skill involved

[small dust]

It needs to be a low CD If its something that doesnt guarantee any play, something you have to do correctly. And you could ltierally just nerf it by upping its cooldown not by forcing a rework like current emp reach

[true matrix]

I don’t get how emperors feel usin the fun when it has 0 rewarding aspects

[topaz acorn]

yes high skill with big rewards

[true matrix]

wow I pressed a button and I grabbed the ball

[small dust]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1383762777826398288

im telling u bro

read ts

with all youve said thats something youll like

[true matrix]

Idk about a guaranteed steal gng

I’m not sure how that’s skilled

[lament ember]

read it again bro

[mint relic]

GUYS COULD U CHECKMY SUGGEST OUT ITS ABOUT A CHEM REACTION FOR GIANT (pls sorry for caps i just think itsa cool idea

[small dust]

Idk if you read the conditions on it, its a steal if you correctly READ the opponents play

[lament ember]

to activate it you need to pick if you'd want to block a shot or a pass

it's like jp kinda minus the side effects

[true matrix]

Ik but if it’s the start of a matchup and they have the ball on their field and I use the ability

at their side of the field

who is taking a shot

instead of a pass

[small dust]

?

Bro youre not teleporting across the map bc they shot, its still the conditions of current emp reach where you have to be within a vicinity

[true matrix]

no no I’m saying if im on their side of the field

[small dust]

and youre not locked into a 1v1 either the other player could dribble, suggesting a fakeaway but instead go for a pass

[true matrix]

90% of the time they are gonna pass right

[small dust]

Yeah and thats their problem, they should shoot instaed

you could even shoot walls to repass urself if youre smart

skill expression

[true matrix]

Yeah idk bout that

[small dust]

thats the point

[true matrix]

wall shooting is iffy icl

[small dust]

idk how its iffy its easy asf

just dont full LMB hold it so it bounces around like a maniac

[topaz acorn]

i mean its cool concept problem is that its too complicated for bbz community

[true matrix]

having to shoot the ball on my side of the court to avoid an emperor 🤔

it’s ok

[small dust]

that I agree with probably, we will never get a skillful game because everyone wants a one button win button in games like these

[topaz acorn]

yes and overall bbz is pretty simple game

[true matrix]

but I feel there could be a better rework

[small dust]

or u wait its duratino out like curcrent emp

[topaz acorn]

theres no proper techs or mechanics

[small dust]

its not a permanent effect

idk why youre acting like youre forced to do either

the game has more options than that

[true matrix]

that’s kinda the problem lol, you have no indicator of when emperor reach is active

[small dust]

Theres some tech you can do, outside of the wall bouncing for example Ace's fade eability you can abuse camera movement to make it extremely hard to dodge n unpredictable

[small dust]

If i know a player has emperors reach and hes commiting defense to me its half the time pretty safe to assume hes using it, unless uve just seen him use it then you knwo its on CD

again, its player skill

this is why most ppl are like gold they cant think for themselves

[supple swallow]

ill be honest Reach has no indicator for any activation other than "oh theyre running at u that means they have emp reach active"

[topaz acorn]

imo for me techs are a different thing

its something that requires some kind of skill to actually do

[true matrix]

yeah no, most people I play w are smarter than that

I don’t use it straight off lol

[topaz acorn]

i wouldnt call using camera movement to change ace fade direction a tech

[small dust]

? You just said wall bouncing was iffy and you cant read opponents but youre saying your players are too smart to think if emperors reach is on CD or what player has it and is posting you up

[topaz acorn]

bbz is like rly simple as hell

as a game itself

[small dust]

that doesnt math

[supple swallow]

even if you did know they have reach, the duration lasts longer than 4 dribbles and a feint even when spaced out. Any dribbles that let go of the ball whatsoever immediately get invalidated

[true matrix]

My point of wall bouncing being iffy is not that it’s hard to do LOL

I’m sayin it’s js wacky

[small dust]

its not whacky though, you know exactly how much itll bounce depending how long u hold it and how high you aim

Its ridiculously consistent

ive never once have problems w it

i abuse df out of it every game

[true matrix]

I don’t really like the wall bouncing mechanic is my opinion

Again that’s js my opinion

[supple swallow]

wall bouncing is the worst last resort you could ever commit to

[topaz acorn]

1v3s

sure

[supple swallow]

the only times it should be considered an option is if its a 1v1

[topaz acorn]

in a normal match no

[true matrix]

I have more fun when i pass to my teammates

and I don’t really want sum to incentivize wall bouncing

[still crystal]

Guys I wanna gamble my emperor lowk

[supple swallow]

get rid of the crutch styles

[small dust]

No theres SO many applications for it tahts not only relegated to phantom, you could pass it to a teammate and he could wallbounce the ball to activate Fetch and you could literally dive a ball cross map with it for free

[supple swallow]

play the actual game instead of 2 buttons and sometimes m1

[still crystal]

Y’all think 30 luckys and half a mill is enough?

[small dust]

wallbouncing has a lot of tech to it but yet again ppl dont think

[still crystal]

Chrollo heard our plead

[supple swallow]

thats specific only to fetch, and the only other tech is with star and giant. Giant doesnt have that much range and ur wasting ur score catching skill with it.
Star is the same but it has longer range and activity.

[still crystal]

Global cd

[topaz acorn]

why people dont realize 20 sec gc does nothing 😭

[still crystal]

Atleast something

[topaz acorn]

no its just an excuse to not nerf emp

its worse

[small dust]

No? You can force a cross map pass with Phantom doing that same thing, theres a lot of abilities you can force out of a wallbounce

[supple swallow]

its better to just directly pass to a teammate, if your pass gets read anyway and u try to replace that with a wall bounce the likelyhood of your teammate is lowered by the ball priority and ping being an issue for some

[true matrix]

yeah this

I play w friends from diff regions

and passing compared to wall bouncing the ball to them is much more consistent

[small dust]

Im sorry but im very curious what rank you guys are cduck and juyu because any player i play vs in top 10 would laugh at that including myself

[rapid olive]

YALL SHOULD CHCK MY POST
https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1383086718235967700

[still crystal]

Lowk Bbz rn

[true matrix]

I don’t play ranked that often I usually play main game cuz there’s no 4v4 or 5v5

also your techs are really basic

to the point they are not even techs I’m ngl

[small dust]

Wallbouncing is a primary tech in top 10, everyone uses it all the time you guys saying youd rather pass normally or do something else 99% of the time is a joke and any good player clearly agrees with it

[true matrix]

do you realize how ball priority works

Did you even read what we said lol

[small dust]

The ping issue ise MORE apparent in passes because high ping players can literally block your ball while being halfway across the screen in a pass

[supple swallow]

for passing to teammates getting read means

• Losing ball control directly to the enemy
  wall bouncing instead
• Puts ball control at a complete random with reliance on dive (fetch), Dash skills and Jump Skills for the same value as a pass with more risk involved while using a valuable skill of the mentioned style

Its only specific for Phantom and thats under the assumption that it isnt getting stolen from by any of the mentioned above

[small dust]

? Homie youre free to DM me i got a 95% WR on this game in like 2k+ matches and consistently top 10 every season

[true matrix]

it’s way harder to get the ball from a wall bounce when your being marked if you have higher ping than ur marker

[small dust]

Ill show u the stats

[true matrix]

so you play 3s

[small dust]

my 95% WR is across EVERY mode, but 3s is currently the most competitive system we have in the game unless youre hosting private servers

[supple swallow]

as long as the ms diff is more than 10 its always gonna be random. the lowest ping wins and not everyone has good internet to have perfect ping from asia to Netherlands

[small dust]

You said it was only specific for fetch, now its only specific for phantom youre ltierally contradicting yourself bro

[true matrix]

how much ping do you play on

[small dust]

60 give or take but my friend plays on 180-210 and hes doing just fine w the exact same things in top 10 lobbies

[supple swallow]

You mentioned phantom as part of it so i included it, do you want me to exclude phantom from the examples?

[small dust]

also with a 90%+ wr

[small dust]

I mentioned phantom as a part of it AFTER you said its ONLY specific to fetch so i gave you more examples to show you its not exclusive to one thing literally disproving both your points of it being specific to one thing

thatsliterally what "Only specific" implies

[still crystal]

I wanna spin emp so bad bro

But I fear I get trash

[supple swallow]

Do you want me to make a whole fixed paragraph for it?

[true matrix]

Im ngl bbz is not a comp game imo

[small dust]

I want you to admit youre reaching in an attempt to be right when better more experienced players are teaching you how the game works

[true matrix]

I js don’t find it as serious with styles like emperor and gold being on the field

[supple swallow]

it isnt but it shouldnt be subjected to "its just a casual game bro" whenever something clearly unfun is being in play

[true matrix]

no I agree

[topaz acorn]

skill ceiling for bbz is relatively low

[true matrix]

I js don’t like wall bouncing to pass that’s js my end of the take

[supple swallow]

Educate me then, List me the use cases of the most likely scenarios for styles to be using wall bouncing with a maximum of 3 people in a composition

[small dust]

It absolutely is, which further blows my mind how people can be bad at it

[true matrix]

My ping rn is horrendous

and i find passing way more consistent

than receiving wall bounces

Specifically short range passes w pump faking

[naive wigeon]

holy english premium 🙏

[topaz acorn]

well its like joining arsenal or phantom forces i am myself lowkey mid at shooting games but i still get good KDA on those games but if i play actual comp shooting game ill lose most of the time

[small dust]

Okay, first of Pass magnetism on a steal/block is higher than that of a shot magnetism, so if youre playing vs high ping players especially wall shots are even better due to the magnetism on pass steals being wonky with high ping, so thats a huge advantage, second you can force abilities which have pre-requisites teo use by using a wallbounce, i.e Fetch dive, phantom and so on. Second off if youre alone in a 1vX you can also use fake shot wallbounces in order to reset an engagement after youre down 2+ dribbles already

how much more do you want me to list

[supple swallow]

Okay the information on pass magnetism is new to me, Didnt know it was a significant difference

[true matrix]

Also js curious I don’t play ranked how many season have there been

didn’t ts js get added

[small dust]

it did but theres been a lot of unofficial rankings on this game previously

aswell as comp discords where ppl make private servers to scrim