Emperor Nerfs | Completed!

[lavish anchor]

nice

[bitter vector]

It’s a limited not a actual perm style

That’s in the spin

Rn

[lavish anchor]

still a .25 no?

[bitter vector]

And it’s still op

Very op

[lavish anchor]

its buns

LMAOO

[bitter vector]

Perfect?

[lavish anchor]

perfection is like top 9 at least

its not that good

unless youre against 50 ovrs

[real spindle]

its not that good😔

[bitter vector]

Yeah yall win bro

[dense crescent]

Its fun. But not very good.

[bitter vector]

This whole thing is giving me more chromosomes

Ggs

[real spindle]

👍

[dense crescent]

Ez w

[lavish anchor]

gets proven wrong and resorts to insults instead of backing his argument up

classic bbz player

[obtuse peak]

Isn't emperors reach bugged atm anyway ?

[random axle]

Huh?

[wary forge]

Emperors reach just needs a whole rework

Just literally make it defensive in a different way tho

[bitter vector]

Still continuing something that already ended classic discord no life

[wary forge]

Blue lock rivals has its world classes nerfed so why not this games miracles?

"Buns" game that actually nerfs stuff

Game made a whole QOL update

[lavish anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-laughing-flight-flightreacts-funny-laughing-gif-17836958681365484113

[bitter vector]

💔🥀

[real spindle]

😔

[hazy vigil]

"Time to check those roles" 🤓

[bitter vector]

I’m done with this bro I can smell yall through my screen

🥀🥀🥀

[lavish anchor]

oh no

hes using personal insults because he cant provide proper arguments

oh no!

[bitter vector]

Wat

😭

[wary forge]

113 x now

[umbral cave]

God forbid you think auto-piloting defense is a bad idea. Jesus H Christ.

[wary forge]

Emperor mains when they press v and do🫡 on me while holding the ball in front of me

[bitter vector]

Literally giant perfect fetch

And so many other🥀

[lavish anchor]

wrong

but

alright

[umbral cave]

None of those are auto-pilots.

[bitter vector]

Jesus

[bitter vector]

You want everything to be the same ??

[lavish anchor]

i dont think thats what that implies mate

[umbral cave]

I'd want nothing to be a guaranteed possession from a one button input, with no thought or strategy in place.

I've said this before but it scares me that "people" like you will be allowed to vote in elections some day.

[bitter vector]

We can’t be serious

[unkempt junco]

?

[wary forge]

Emp is just boring I win too much with it

[bitter vector]

Ok????

[wary forge]

What's the point of a game when there's only winning when I press 1 button

[bitter vector]

Not true

At all

[wary forge]

Like I already won I'd just pass closely

[umbral cave]

Eh, you could argue dunking on other Emperor users. 'There can only be one' type deal.

It's what I do.

[wary forge]

I am absolute.

[lavish anchor]

snatch block has a very tight time window and requires spacing
fetch requires the ball to be loose and cannot block shots or passes

[bitter vector]

Yall acting like going against emperor is like 1v1ing a raid boss

🥀🥀

[lavish anchor]

emperor however just activates a state for 8 seconds where you automatically grab any released ball within that time window

[wary forge]

Blox fruits boss

[bitter vector]

Absolv boss

Comes out in 1-2 weeks btw

[wary forge]

Wait u play Blox fruits?

[bitter vector]

Join my crew fr

[wary forge]

Erm

[lavish anchor]

he plays blox fruits

😭

[wary forge]

He's goated

[bitter vector]

Bro who’s putting these reactions😭🙏

[wary forge]

Memezee

[umbral cave]

Its one of the Zee's.

[lavish anchor]

homie i think you gotta stop spamming reactions

idk tho

[wary forge]

Zeeling

[umbral cave]

It overstayed its welcome.

[wary forge]

Zee we are kicking you out of this house

U paying no rent

50 dollars a month

OK 49.99 deal🤑

[still crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292909272069439518/1320725070074609725/why_no_premium.gif

[bitter vector]

So like we all got jobs right?

[still crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1250693516003119156/1375566627650666538/0523.gif

[bitter vector]

It’s a yes or no question🥀

[still crystal]

Ts pmo

(No)

[wary forge]

No we are still in school

Most of us

[smoky trout]

roblox made an video on this bum game

swear

hold on

holy hell

is my wifi that bad

i cant send this video

[lavish anchor]

im afraid its fire

[balmy karma]

wrap it up

[real spindle]

real😔

[smoky trout]

chuck wasnt in here so 0/10

absolute fumble

[bitter vector]

W

[limber kindle]

All these styles but all you gon see nowadays are noob emps who think they're good😭

Imagine seeing that ad

Omg

This game looks cool

So much styles

Then they enter the game

And see everyone running emp and using emp reach on each other

Peak bbz gameplay

[dawn depot]

Fire but a realistic edit would just be Reach and Reach and Reach and Reach. 😭

Crazy how the game becomes a significantly better and more appealing experience when excluding Emperor.

[still crystal]

Delete emperor

The style is the opposite of skill

Just for clarification I myself got emperor

If u have ball then just spam Q and then use the dribble ability

If u don’t have the ball

Press v

And do the steps repeated

[lavish anchor]

hey dont worry

gold is gonna get a similar move judging from the sneaks

so fun

[still crystal]

Yes!!

Gambling!!

[balmy karma]

where are they showing sneaks

[lavish anchor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YMrZvpXAEeY?si=q_fjDYiz0wXP-Vvo

here

[still crystal]

This is just emperor v2

[lavish anchor]

indeed

emperor but incredibly offensive and yellow

[still crystal]

Emperor with a mix of basketball god

[umbral cave]

Were they in the QnA vid? I haven't watched it yet.

[random axle]

I m just hyped for cosmetics and emote not the style 💔

[lavish anchor]

here

[umbral cave]

I just saw that.

Mb dawg.

Just watched it.

FWIW I didnt see any defensive moves. Just offensive.

There's still hope.

[lavish anchor]

there is

if you look closer

theres a reach looking move

around 0:23

[umbral cave]

I'm hoping that's just a swat.

If its a reach, I'm going to lose it.

[lavish anchor]

we might needa rename this thread to "Emperor & Gold Nerfs" soon

[random axle]

lol fr

It’s maybe a push move

Or just reach move 💔

[lavish anchor]

lets see

either way

it seems to have an auto defense

unless they learned

[random axle]

Hope not 🙏

[lavish anchor]

emperor with

10x more offense

hoo boy

[random axle]

and every noob will have it again

And think they are skilled 😭

[random axle]

But as I said I m just hyped for cosmetics cuz using unskilled styles isn’t fun I main giant or jackpot or star

[limber kindle]

I saw a secret sneak, apparently it points to a random opponent and it immediately bans them from the game

Truly a golden defensive move

Very balanced

[lavish anchor]

amazing

[radiant karma]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-franklin-philosophical-sophisticated-black-man-eating-apple-giftok-gif-5264575645211581136

time to abandon this thread and move on to nerf gold

[lavish anchor]

perhaps

[radiant karma]

the cycle continues

[random axle]

Did u made this post?

[radiant karma]

nope

[random axle]

Anyways they know about this suggestion

[limber kindle]

They know about it but that doesn't matter until it actually happens

[radiant karma]

it's not gonna happend yeah

[random axle]

I still have hope

[radiant karma]

ur still at the denial phase

[limber kindle]

If it doesnt happen in the next 2 weeks then forget the emp nerf

It ain't happening

[random axle]

gng I m quitting in 2 weeks if they don’t nerf it

[limber kindle]

There could be no better time than the next 2 upcoming weeks

First this friday

Gold comes

Nerf emp to make gold look good

Then next week

Summer update

Apparantly a huge update

Also good time to release

[random axle]

Or just make gold better then emperor so ppl will think it’s useless

[dense crescent]

Lowkey gift me smth

Cause im just a lil guy yk

[random axle]

Depends on the update

[dense crescent]

Oh thanks

[wary forge]

what about lock

this guy that pisses me off so hard

[verbal bobcat]

no nerf

[wary forge]

yes dont nerf emperor my glorious goat

trust guys

[lavish anchor]

perhaps

[lavish anchor]

the pfp says enough

[verbal bobcat]

yeah

[verbal bobcat]

my goat akashi seijuro

[lavish anchor]

sorry to hear that

[verbal bobcat]

what

[random axle]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-absolute-cinema-cinema-absolute-cine-beyond-journeys-end-gif-5191354576438169827

[steep cargo]

Im currently in a lobby where every body is literally emperor, any pass you make is getting intercepted, like they should fr add a global cd to this ability cuz when there’s to many people playing with the same character using emperor reach, it’s just annoying asf

[lethal heath]

Seems like emperor 2.0

[lethal heath]

Yep lobbies are usually emperor or 1 or 2 copycats that hard copy emperor only

[dense crescent]

I just played a ranked game against 3 emps

And somehow won

[steep cargo]

A global cd for emperors reach

You get all your pass intercepted

[near orbit]

It’s worse when there is eight Emperors in a match, just hearing the sound of Emperor’s Reach being spammed as they crowd one another.

I have Emperor, but I don’t use it. The main reason being that I don’t particularly like it. I’ll spin it off for Nash’s style or something.

Nah, I’ll spin it off for Chuck.

[shell halo]

yall need to stop emp hate like just get better at game fr fr

[topaz acorn]

gold looks boring

i rly want some unique crap like star or perfection

[near orbit]

Can’t get better when you have to play three emperors in a 3v1. Teammates leave after finding out that all three have emperor.

[dawn depot]

Gonna have 500 fire reacts and still ignored. 😭

[covert cloud]

Nice rage bait

[south finch]

bump

[reef moon]

4:1 ratio on this btw

And gold looks like it has an intercept just like lock so fuh using lock ig

Awk animation is cool tho

[simple falcon]

Awks cool, but idk how they decided to give Nash a defense ability when he only has 1 defending feat and it was only when he had Belial eye on

[reef moon]

Tbf akashi wasn't forcing people to shoot insta shots either but it's in the game

Its based off Nash but they make some shi up

Idrc about gold I just want emperor nerfed yo

[dawn depot]

YUP.

Honestly don't care about anything atp other than Emp nerfs.

Whatever they add or whatever they rework doesn't mean anything if Emp is still ultimate meta.

[buoyant iris]

i think its based off that one time where he made a perfect pass to the uncrowned king and he made a shot

[reef moon]

As someone in the comments of that short pointed out it could be a pass that gold has so idk

[simple falcon]

Well we saw no motion pass, a dunk, a dribble, why would the last one be another pass?

[reef moon]

No idea, i'm just making the possibility known

[simple falcon]

Gotcha

[buoyant iris]

i used to think emperor didnt need any nerfs lol

[balmy karma]

To remind phantom they're not special

[supple swallow]

apparently theyre already working on it but they dont wanna talk bc its alr obvious that ppl are gonna jump em at any chance they get

[dawn depot]

When you say apparently what has led you to this assumption.

[supple swallow]

someone already talked to one of the staff

they mentioned this thread

hell chrollo is in it

[lavish anchor]

chrollo hasnt read this most likely

people who get pinged in threads

or forums i mean

automatically follow it

[wary forge]

They have seen it but they haven't responded

[lavish anchor]

glad theyve seen it but whats with the inaction

why havent nerfs been implemented despite them going out of their way to make jackpot steal unable to steal from reach anymore

unless thats a bug but it seems weirdly intentional

[wary forge]

He was just pinged he was nothing to do with this I think

[hard urchin]

bro wth,why this this style doesnt get any nerf

[wary forge]

Cuz then thousands of people would be crying💀

Honestly they might nerf on gold update to encourage people to spin it off

[hard urchin]

gold would probably be new op

its look like emperor 2.0

[supple swallow]

full immunity on top of perfect stealing ig

[wary forge]

Hold on can someone send the gold teaser if there was one

Can't find it anymore

[supple swallow]

its on chrollos shorts

[wary forge]

Oh

[supple swallow]

they have a 1 stage dribble, long distance. a Pass and it looks like a long range steal

YIPPEE

I LOVE AUTO STEALS

[wary forge]

We went from

Auto block

To auto steal

Also doesn't lock have an auto block too?

[hard urchin]

fr

[wary forge]

Where he passes aswell?

[supple swallow]

yeup

[hard urchin]

chorllo:community doesnt love auto steals,but we need this

[wary forge]

I'm expecting a

Emperor nerf
Lock nerf
And ace nerf next update

Cuz ace is just literally dribbling a half court

[hard urchin]

lock?

why lock

[wary forge]

Doesn't he have the auto block too

[hard urchin]

no

[wary forge]

Like emperors reach but it's a pass

[hard urchin]

its doesnt auto

[wary forge]

Then why did I get lied on

Then what does it do

[hard urchin]

you can steal while he using steal move

[wary forge]

What does the move do then

[hard urchin]

it stealing passes but it doesnt have iframe

[wary forge]

If it isn't auto block

[hard urchin]

he doesnt have auto block

[wary forge]

Then what is it

Is he timing it or what

[hard urchin]

he have barrier with block

but it doesnt auto

it have small hitbox

[wary forge]

So like a bubble?

[hard urchin]

ye

[wary forge]

When I'm in the bubble

It isn't auto??

What if I'm in the bubble

[hard urchin]

it auto but doesnt like emperor

[wary forge]

And shoot

[hard urchin]

it balanced

you need be near opponent

like average block

[supple swallow]

Chat guess what style he uses

[wary forge]

Dude then it's just emperors reach with less range

[hard urchin]

it doesnt

its smaller hitbox,if your enemy moving you cantt block

[wary forge]

Ranked💔

[wary forge]

Uh ok

[supple swallow]

I love the logic people do nowadays bc they have emp "Just use emp bro" yeah lets kick a dead horse

[lavish anchor]

mane lock sucks why nerf it lol

[fallow reef]

It does have i frames to this day i have yet to be able to steal from a lock

[lavish anchor]

thats unfortunate

i do it regularly lol

[fallow reef]

Indeed

[viral seal]

kuroko bug unironically counters emperor cause u literally teleport out of his reach

[fallow reef]

prob just me then

😭

[supple swallow]

thats just bug abuse

[supple swallow]

intercept doesnt have Iframes, u can steal as soon as the animation starts

[fallow reef]

i try but it doesn’t do anything

[supple swallow]

you have to not be the guy that just got stolen from iirc

[lavish anchor]

no it works

even if youre the one being stolen from

[supple swallow]

either that or its buggy

tbf Intercept just likes going on Cooldown for whatever reason

a pass? where, oh there? nvm its already there, cooldown of 60s

[supple swallow]

i found a random that said "bro ur just bad cuz u cant play around a 65s cooldown" while they were playing emp. Then not even a minute later my team gets emp stolen 3 times after stealing it back w/o emp

[lavish anchor]

im assuming they werent able to defend without reach

[supple swallow]

pretty much, we had a good defender on point

but it was worthless against a single skill

all the skill in the world at the palm of your hand vs 1 button

[smoky trout]

how are there over 100 people saying no

[lavish anchor]

skill issue

thats it really

either that or theyre just shills

[smoky trout]

plus 12

[supple swallow]

they own the style

simple as that

[smoky trout]

its just

[supple swallow]

it requires as much brainpower as an emp player to assume that the ppl saying no are emp users themselves

[smoky trout]

theres no way they think this style is balanced

[supple swallow]

but eve then we have emp users that agree

[supple swallow]

Its on a 65s cooldown, just play around it

like it isnt in every single game with a bare minimum of 4 emps per match

[smoky trout]

gold in two days

so its a mix of both now

[supple swallow]

out of all of the games ive played in the past week, ive played only 2 with NO emperors and that was yesterday and 5 days ago

it was the most fun i had at the time

everyone was actually playing and trying

[smoky trout]

ive actually never seen a match without someone using emp

you are one lucky guy

[lavish anchor]

ive seen it

once

[supple swallow]

i feel bad for u hearing that stupid ahh bass boosted fart reverb every minute

[lavish anchor]

lasted about 3 minutes before i saw a reach

[smoky trout]

some guy with a ez sound effect

made me want to quit

[supple swallow]

bro emp users have inflated ego as if they deserved everything that the style did for them bro

[smoky trout]

legit

[lavish anchor]

they were capable of nerfing perfection on the week it was released

[smoky trout]

ive never seen a respectful emp

ion know

[lavish anchor]

they didnt even bother doing that for emp

[smoky trout]

they want to milk this style for lucky spins

[supple swallow]

the only emperor that i can TOLERATE is my friend cuz hes doing it out of spite to even out the game, but that doesnt help

[lavish anchor]

it still baffles me that they removed the jackpot steal and reach interaction

its almost like they want emperor to be busted

[supple swallow]

I love Rarity = Power

its so fun to not have fun

i love getting no control whatsoever because a rare style is everywhere

[smoky trout]

its why i like the ubg system that they did

[supple swallow]

the 0.25% being so difficult to get that theres none of them in every single game

[lavish anchor]

"rare" and "everywhere" in the same sentence

[lavish anchor]

turtle is my goat

[smoky trout]

like actuallt

you could beat a legendary with like

basic

[lavish anchor]

i beat a freedom with basic once

[supple swallow]

i used to play ubg, if it werent for the netcode being so dog in my region

[lavish anchor]

pure luck though

[supple swallow]

I remember using bullet to beat out ghost n stuff back in the day

but that was like months ago

[smoky trout]

freedom is one crazy style to face against

[lavish anchor]

i main turtle

its hilarious

[smoky trout]

goat

[supple swallow]

i used bullet purely to spite dodge spammers

[lavish anchor]

i stretch out matches with it

so much

[smoky trout]

hitman was the first that did that

i HATED hitman bry

[supple swallow]

I dont even know why i try to play any game in here anymore

when its just 80%

Emp reach, emp reach

Ultimate pass

emp reach emp reach

[smoky trout]

they really gotta do something

[supple swallow]

Emp awakening

[smoky trout]

im gonna just lay off the game until they nerf emp

[supple swallow]

"you all stay in the air and bow before my surpreriority"

emp reach emp reach, ultimate pass. Emperor dribble

Emperor Awk

[smoky trout]

they always say smth like

"bow down"

[lavish anchor]

sometimes out of spite

[supple swallow]

"you all stay in the air and bow befor emy surperiority"

[lavish anchor]

i let an emperor use reach

[supple swallow]

Ultimate pass, emp reach,

[lavish anchor]

let them drive all the way to the hoop

then sky leap to deny the shot

lmao

[supple swallow]

until they ultimate pass it

[smoky trout]

honestly

[supple swallow]

and theres suddenly nothing u can do about it

[smoky trout]

the emp users i face

[lavish anchor]

ultimate pass is also free eats for me

[smoky trout]

dont dribble after using drive

[lavish anchor]

i see that back dribble animation and its a free possession for leap

[smoky trout]

so i just go back and steal ts

[lavish anchor]

yeah

same

i got called a hacker for using pressure defense on reach once

i wanna play clutch with a fetch teammate

[smoky trout]

maybe

yk what imma try that

imma use clutch later

[supple swallow]

bro they just use their dribble then use emp drive then get all of their dribbles back like ts is so stupid

[lavish anchor]

its hilarious

they never expect it

i want a fetch teammate solely to dive after pressure defense

[pallid lava]

what does pressure defense do i dont play clutch

[lavish anchor]

makes them drop the ball

bypasses iframes but not dribbles

[pallid lava]

LMAO

maybe ill give that a try on an alt

[lavish anchor]

when a reach uses

i mean when an emp uses reach

use pressure defense

and watch them lose the ball

rn clutch is the ONLY counter to emperor because for some reason there was a change that took away jackpot steals ability to bypass reach

[supple swallow]

me

i like jumping to the ball

[true matrix]

who’s ready for Gold!!

[marsh wharf]

realy hope chrollo actully dose what ts dude asked for bc its so valid

[cerulean atlas]

fr

ngl true

lockdown player can shutoff a emp player.

[still crystal]

Isn’t lockdown a zone gng?

[idle socket]

[south finch]

bro

[idle socket]

\

lol

[south finch]

@wintry ether

[idle socket]

xd

xd

xd

[south finch]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-shibuya-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-bro-thinks-hes-him-gif-17378704688955379248

[idle socket]

bros a

[still crystal]

-avg emp player

[idle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-str8-lacking-kato-gif-9371728474647510227

[still crystal]

But chrollo

How did ts slide into the main game

[true matrix]

Chrollo don’t even know Akashi bro

[idle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-brainwormism-gif-3108294868786947348

[true matrix]

He hasn’t watched the anime that far 😭

[still crystal]

Fix yo goons man

[south finch]

@fast quest

[idle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-str8-lacking-kato-gif-9371728474647510227

[still crystal]

Bro only watched tt edits and thinks he is tuff

[idle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-str8-lacking-kato-gif-9371728474647510227

[still crystal]

So he crammed some steroids into my boi Akashi

[idle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-str8-lacking-kato-gif-9371728474647510227

[dull hamlet]

e

\

[fast quest]

@true patrol

[still crystal]

Can’t u ban

[little marlin]

𝕴𝖓𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖓𝖎𝖆 | @ for help is AFK: shower - 7 minutes ago

[fast quest]

I mute

Dw

[still crystal]

I js noticed his username

[little marlin]

𝕴𝖓𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖓𝖎𝖆 | @ for help is AFK: Cooking and Eating - 9 minutes ago

[still crystal]

Bro that IS SUCH A RED FLAG

[wary forge]

Don't worry after the nerf, ranked will be free points because these people can't defend anything

[wary forge]

Nah when gold comes out they will Def nerf for the spins so people get phantom or smth and then play more or pay

Legit market strategy someone tell this to chrollo

[wary forge]

I mean like alts exist so

[lavish anchor]

except we have another issue

gold

which leads to them not learning at all for the sake of profit

[wary forge]

Well I guess it will be nerfed too and then an offensive only style will come out maybe

For next update

[lavish anchor]

youre quite optimistic

but no

[wary forge]

I don't know I'm not chrollo💀

[lavish anchor]

its pretty clear that theyll take ages to nerf a broken style as per usual

even if the devs know

because

theyre terrible when it comes to transparency

[wary forge]

Also is force shot broken

Or pass moves?

Cuz like it's shot but doesn't go back

I have seen phantoms tp with it

[lavish anchor]

yeah most pass moves are broken rn

[wary forge]

K

Also yall ever tried emp and star as a team?

The 3 pointer dunk is crazy

[umbral cave]

Learned this the hard way when my lucky pass didnt actually pass. Ended up getting the ball stolen cause no dribbles.

[lavish anchor]

i dont think i want an emp in my team

[lavish anchor]

lucky pass is also broken rn since you can intercept it as well

[umbral cave]

Emperor makes any combination disgusting.

[umbral cave]

Oh joy. Even less of a reason to use it.

[plain cypress]

Emperor is buns

[dense crescent]

How so?

[wary forge]

The player is buns on emperor*

[brazen kettle]

[limber kindle]

Guys

Im calling it now

Once gold comes out

There will be threads that say buff emperor

[lavish anchor]

of course

because gold is the new baseline

lol

[limber kindle]

"How come they're both miracles but emperor is so buns compared to gold"

Just like that one guy saying buff giant because compared to emp, its bad

"Increase the range of emp reach because it doesn't work on gold dribble, its too far for emp to reach"

"Buff emperors dribble"

I can see it

[lavish anchor]

bbz community truly is a sisyphean tragedy

[limber kindle]

😭

[radiant karma]

How many hours left till the upd

I'm ready to see all the nerf gold threads

[wary forge]

Already exists

There's a buff emperor in suggestions

Why would they make another

[radiant karma]

They're mostly satire

[supple swallow]

Honestly its not surprising that Roblox games resort to eventual p2w tactics or p2w-adjacent methods but it still sucks to eventually fall that hole with such a fun game

[wary forge]

one isnt

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1382549130882191380

[radiant karma]

Ok that's ragebait

Weak dribbling

[supple swallow]

its more worthwhile to not engage with it

emperor on its own is already infurating

theres no need to add more to the fire

[lavish anchor]

its funny cuz

the dude posted his stats saying hes good

and most of his stats were in double digits

[wary forge]

the blocks tho

THE BLOCKS 💀

only 94

[vernal sequoia]

buff dribbling

[lavish anchor]

94 as an emperor main

[wary forge]

emp reach doesnt block i think

[vernal sequoia]

wow

[lavish anchor]

genuinely

[vernal sequoia]

that is like trying to buff

[lavish anchor]

accurate asl

[vernal sequoia]

idk broly to a cracked up granny in nyc

[wary forge]

what if gold ends up like basketball god

real

[vernal sequoia]

LO BRO no comments

i got a feeling gold is more

assist oriented

[lavish anchor]

if youve seen the sneaks

hell naw it isnt lmao

[vernal sequoia]

oh

i didnt see the sneaks

[lavish anchor]

it almost has the exact same moveset as emp

dribble into drive

[wary forge]

.

[lavish anchor]

reach esque defense move

[wary forge]

thats lit emp 2.0

[lavish anchor]

and a pass

[wary forge]

whats the purpose of nerfing emp now

[vernal sequoia]

emp reskin

[wary forge]

nerf emp get gold ez

[vernal sequoia]

💢💢🥀🥀

[lavish anchor]

its genuinelt just emperor yellow

[wary forge]

emp bu hes gold

[lavish anchor]

but with a dunk

thats it

LMAO

[vernal sequoia]

reverse flash

[lavish anchor]

IT WAS ME AKASHI

[umbral cave]

nerf emperor
it gets nerfed
gold gets added, its the same but more aggressive
The monkey's paw curls.

[hard urchin]

fr

[lavish anchor]

cant wait

[wary forge]

im so excited guys!!!!

[lavish anchor]

emperor definitely doesnt seem to be receiving nerfs

[wary forge]

so hype update

lowkey i think

[lavish anchor]

cant wait to see servers be filled with golds and emps and nothing else!!!

[vernal sequoia]

"its a miracle ofc it must be op!"

[wary forge]

they nerf emp but release gold and then nerf him on the next update

thats how it goes

usually

[vernal sequoia]

emp mains is so boring

go up to the guy

reach

overturn

[lavish anchor]

press v

walk near homie

get the ball

emp dribble

drive

[vernal sequoia]

where's takeover when i need it...

[lavish anchor]

pass or shoot

[umbral cave]

If I know they're trash I just shoot randomly to bait out the reach and then steal it back.

But good lord is it infuriating to deal with.

[lavish anchor]

i give them hope

i let them reacj

[vernal sequoia]

all 5 players with emp

[lavish anchor]

let them dribble all the way to the hoop

[vernal sequoia]

awh naw naw mane..

[umbral cave]

I just block their shot or dunk.

[lavish anchor]

then sky leap their shot attempt

[umbral cave]

If I'm giga tilted I might use reach on them.

[lavish anchor]

dont worry

because we wont get 5 emps

instead we will get an assortment of aces golds and emps

amazing

[umbral cave]

As long as Gold doesn't have an auto steal, I think we'll be fine.

Surely.

[lavish anchor]

well uh

its gotten so bad where

we will accept the bare minimum

[vernal sequoia]

ace bro damn

its too cracked aswell

[lavish anchor]

"CHROLLO GO FORTH WITH THY AUTO DEFENSE BUT JUST DONT MAKE IT AUTO STEAL"

[lavish anchor]

me when

half court dribble

atp dawg the ball is all yours

[vernal sequoia]

do you want 2 point guaranteed or 3 pt good sir 🍽️

[radiant karma]

I just checked and holy

[vernal sequoia]

bro when we're asking for a buff we dont mean give aomine the method

[umbral cave]

Sucks being the vocal minority, doesn't it.

[regal canopy]

Forget emperor bro

Nerf ace

[lavish anchor]

not to mention

[umbral cave]

[lavish anchor]

the rework was so rushed

like dawg

[umbral cave]

Just the drive, honestly. Everything else feels fine.

[lavish anchor]

nobody asked yall to squeeze it in the damn update 💔

[radiant karma]

We need a pts and IQ requirement for suggestion

[vernal sequoia]

instinct dash aswell

[regal canopy]

except the snail trails ace leaves all over the court now with its awakening

[umbral cave]

Instinct dash is fine.

[regal canopy]

But besides that

[vernal sequoia]

ok its not so bad

[regal canopy]

Agreed

[vernal sequoia]

but

[umbral cave]

But that's a bug.

That's not intended.

[lavish anchor]

instinct dash is flash dash on roid rage

[regal canopy]

The ace drive clears so much space

[vernal sequoia]

its rlly strong for an off ball variant

[umbral cave]

It eats the cooldown of Athletic drive. Im not bothered.

[regal canopy]

The shot is still the same so eh

[radiant karma]

Everytime I js see one I js give up on defense

And let them shoot

No point

[umbral cave]

No, the shot goes a bit further. But its still easily blocked.

[vernal sequoia]

a free steal or a overturn is a free meal nevertheless

[umbral cave]

Its not a free steal though.

[regal canopy]

Same it’s a free basket

[vernal sequoia]

dw abt it js pass it to an emp user!!

[vernal sequoia]

if u do it right and the method is nice with finesse

[regal canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/3g-gif-27526446

[vernal sequoia]

a good 3 is on ur way

[umbral cave]

But then it takes skill to do.

Which im fine with.

[radiant karma]

Athletic drive was already good pre rework idk why they did this

[regal canopy]

No it wasn’t

[vernal sequoia]

true

[radiant karma]

Ppl were mostly complaining abt athletic fade

[umbral cave]

Id argue it was.

[vernal sequoia]

we're not emp mains here

[radiant karma]

It was on good ping

[regal canopy]

Athletic drive was pretty trash

[umbral cave]

I didagree.

Disagree*

[regal canopy]

Oh well then everyone I played had some bad ping

Cuz I always kept up with them

[umbral cave]

It gave you plenty of distance and you had far more control over it.

[vernal sequoia]

athletic drive paired with posterizer in 3v3s ranked

[radiant karma]

Pre rework Ace users that have good ping outruns a lot of ppl

[vernal sequoia]

it was a great tech

[umbral cave]

The big downside are the zones that give movement speeds ontop of other buffs.

[regal canopy]

The fade shot is still insanely predictable though

I thought they’d rework that more

[radiant karma]

They should've changed it

[umbral cave]

Like real basketball and perfectionist.

Or Posterizer, in the paint.

[radiant karma]

Athletic fade is so outdated

[umbral cave]

I still stand by the opinion that fade should've been formless.

[regal canopy]

That could be cool

Like holding a diff key with the move lets you shoot from a different angle

[umbral cave]

Yeah.

[vernal sequoia]

"okay guys u said it!!! missile replaced fade!!!"

[umbral cave]

gets reached

[lavish anchor]

"IN AWAKENING!!!"

"guys lets rush this long-awaited ace rework because nobody will definitely bat an eye regarding its quality if we make it busted"

[vernal sequoia]

imagine they add an ace x phantom chem reaction

[radiant karma]

I can see them doing it

[vernal sequoia]

pass to ace in awakening in the 2 pt area

free dunk

[lavish anchor]

like the one in the

jabberwock game

[vernal sequoia]

yes

[lavish anchor]

where he did a behind the board shot

[umbral cave]

People are more concerned with Emperor nerfs.

[lavish anchor]

for sure

[vernal sequoia]

NGL idm that if they calm down with the athletic drive

[radiant karma]

Or acc rework it

It's not even a rework

[lavish anchor]

idk why they called that thing a rework

it looks like they just frankensteined it

its still boring and doesnt play any different

[radiant karma]

I liked jelly layup a lot

Idk why they removed it

[lavish anchor]

unlike star where the drive and star drive actually gave it more playstyle options

[vernal sequoia]

"dunks are always cooler bro!!!!"

[umbral cave]

I think that is inherently just how Ace is. All it does is score.

[lavish anchor]

im aware but

aomine at least does it somewhat in an entertaining way

[radiant karma]

No it's js ace is suppose to be creative and instead it still feels one dimensional

[lavish anchor]

there is no creativity to when you play ace lmao

[umbral cave]

I'd blame it on the limitations of the game.

You cant just give ace Aomine's repertoire of various shots and maneuvers.

[lavish anchor]

i mean

[umbral cave]

Short of emperor you'd be unstoppable.

[lavish anchor]

theres suggestions that implement that fairly well

[radiant karma]

That's what aomine is suppose to be

[lavish anchor]

because to be fair

star technically has three mobility options

two from drive and the other being dash

its wild how they did that for star but not ace

[umbral cave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ace as it is with multiple mobikities sounds terrifying.

[radiant karma]

Star also got a effects change

Ace is still the same

[lavish anchor]

drive also looks

a bit worse

they literally just elongated it

lmao

[vernal sequoia]

"we're adding silver style now!!!"

full court drive with giant abilities

[lavish anchor]

fantastic

and its zone is just

speed dribbler posterizer animalistic with an increased dunk range

[still crystal]

+street dribbler, perfectionist and real basketball

Also add bronze, silver’s long lost brother

Who can press a button to dunk

[lavish anchor]

add uh

[still crystal]

Doesn’t matter where u are

[lavish anchor]

ruby as well

[still crystal]

Add emerald

+all the gems in the world

[radiant karma]

When are we getting Blue Emperor

[umbral cave]

Give me Uranium, so I can be toxic while being toxic.

(It's just a glowing green emperor)

[bitter vector]

Break bread?

[severe smelt]

very cool

[dense crescent]

Seems balanced too me

@lavish anchor when you do the dunk in stars base moveset. Can you pass the ball?

Like you can with bbgod

[lavish anchor]

i dont know

i dont bother using space dunk unless im trolling lol

[random axle]

POOR YOU

[dense crescent]

Yeah i only use it to finish the game

Makes me feel cool

[hard urchin]

average match with 3+ emperor agaisnt you

[dense crescent]

@lavish anchor brooo star is so good

It went from off my radar to my favourite so fast

[lavish anchor]

its great

have fun with it

[radiant karma]

star is the most fun style

[still crystal]

Star should be its own rarity fr

[dense crescent]

5 moves on a legendary is crazy though

[lavish anchor]

i dont recommend

using the drive variant that doesnt need a targer

that one has a ton of endlag and you can get stolen out of it

[viscid fern]

Emperor Reach is countered by having a teammate screen or by just moving yourself around from being directly faced by their avatar

If they aren’t “looking at you” it doesn’t steal, so it can sometimes not steal even if it looks like they’re directly facing you just because they’re centered a bit off

[lavish anchor]

so you need

[viscid fern]

It’s why flash can be annoying to steal

[lavish anchor]

two people to counter a single defense move

great

[viscid fern]

I gave you the single option too and used another style as an example

[dawn saffron]

Theres was like 3 emperors in same team whenever i try to shoot one of would use the move and cannot even pass

[viscid fern]

Emperor is really easy to snatch you though if you just move in a straight line

[lavish anchor]

realistically

unless youre fighting console players

[viscid fern]

I forgot the name of it but that shot that moves to the left or right as you release are also tricky to snatch sometimes

[lavish anchor]

you are not getting out of an emperors fov

[viscid fern]

If they’re the person who has you marked dribble through them and then quickly pump fake pass

[lavish anchor]

which can also be countered by reach since

8 second time window and a 30 stud range

all they need to do is track you with the camera

[viscid fern]

Yeah that’s why you go through, next to, or around them and pass quick

[dawn saffron]

Doesnt work 9 second waiting is too long

[still crystal]

I’m farming levels so I can make my own suggestions…

[viscid fern]

If you wait too long they’ll just turn

You can actually pass without even looking at your target I’m pretty sure it goes to whoever is closest to your cursor or who it was previously on

I forgot which but I do it a lot

[lavish anchor]

passing quick does not work

as i said

[viscid fern]

It does

I do it to emperors a lot

[lavish anchor]

8 second time window for reach

and if they know how to yk

turn their camera

theyll get that ball

[viscid fern]

It only steals on the release so if you go through them before they turn and pass they can’t snatch it

[still crystal]

I should really spin off emperor

[viscid fern]

It isn’t going to like

Drag them across the court

[still crystal]

I can’t play with him anymore

I feel my brain cells are vanishing

[viscid fern]

Roll for Gold when it comes out

[umbral cave]

It's too good to not have in case someone uses it on you.

[still crystal]

V Into C, not even dribbles…

[viscid fern]

In the anime Nash Gold Jr was basically like

[umbral cave]

I have it and use it if I see another emp.

[lavish anchor]

yeah if the emperor is playing awful defense

[viscid fern]

Upgraded Akashi(Emperor)

[umbral cave]

Otherwise I stick to jackpot, or my main, copycat.

[still crystal]

That’s more brain dead

[lavish anchor]

but if an emperor can play just decent defense they will get that ball every time

[still crystal]

Why can’t styles be more like star ( fun)

[viscid fern]

They really won’t

[lavish anchor]

are you fr

[viscid fern]

I’m saying this as a dude who does exactly what I’ve been saying to do across multiple servers

In multiple games

It is entirely a skill thing getting around emperor reach

You can also bait it out by just remembering who the emperor is and baiting them into using it

[lavish anchor]

idk what kinda stiff neck emps youve been fighting against but bless your soul ig

[umbral cave]

...Yes they will.

[viscid fern]

I see people do that a lot too

[still crystal]

0 indication btw

[viscid fern]

Emperor snatch doesn’t allow you to steal until it ends you’re kinda just stuck watching

[umbral cave]

Baiting Emperor's reach is pretty easy. Just go for a shot.

[viscid fern]

Bait them with what looks like an obvious pass or a shot opportunity and then just pause

They can’t steal you

It’s really obvious when they’re in snatch

[lavish anchor]

yeah because the move does that for them

[umbral cave]

That's not consistent, though.

[lavish anchor]

🤦

[still crystal]

Wait u can’t steal when using v?

[viscid fern]

Yes

[umbral cave]

Someone else can steal the ball while you stand there.

[viscid fern]

You literally cannot steal

It is impossible

The e button does nothing until the duration ends

[still crystal]

But still

[lavish anchor]

because the move already does that for you

[still crystal]

0 indication

[lavish anchor]

with an 8s time window btw

[viscid fern]

I don’t think they can jump to block either

[lavish anchor]

they can

[viscid fern]

I could be wrong about that one but I know they can’t use e

Mostly from trying it

[lavish anchor]

if youre playing against an emperor that can yk move their camera theyre guaranteed to get that ball each time esp if they learn patterns

you dont even need all that to get the ball with reach

[viscid fern]

They’re always going to take the bait on shooting opportunities just make them waste their skill by pump faking and sitting if there isn’t a second defender to steal you

It’s that simple

[dense crescent]

I just played against like 3 emps

[lavish anchor]

so wait 8 seconds

[viscid fern]

They fall for it every time

[dense crescent]

I really hate them

[lavish anchor]

off a hunch

cool

[viscid fern]

Yes

[lavish anchor]

totally great counterplay

[viscid fern]

If you just go for the shot the second you see it against an emperor they’re going to snatch you

[lavish anchor]

my ability to pass and shoot is shut down regardless of the move not working

what a balanced move

[viscid fern]

Correct

[dense crescent]

And they can just steal or block straight after

[viscid fern]

You have to wait

That’s Emperor Eye

[lavish anchor]

so basically youre not the first person to argue that as a counter play

which

those people have been wrong

[viscid fern]

Nah I saw a dude like perfectly time out the duration and pass off as soon as the emperor guarding him tried to go for something else when it ended

[lavish anchor]

emperors reach is not balanced

[umbral cave]

Again. That counter won't work, since their teammate can just run over and steal it.

[dense crescent]

Its only viable if it had an indicator. And its still bad after that.

[umbral cave]

What yiure proposing isn't something that's consistent enough to be considered viable.

[viscid fern]

Yeah that’s why I said if you don’t have a second defender on you

[dense crescent]

Cool but thats not an easy thing to do.

[umbral cave]

8 seconds ia more than enough time for someone to run over.

[viscid fern]

If you’re getting 2v1 you’re losing that ball one way or another

[lavish anchor]

and 8 seconds is enough to get an entire defender on you

[umbral cave]

^

[lavish anchor]

pumpfake iframes last only maybe a quarter of that btw

either way

your ability to shoot or pass is gone for 8 seconds

that is still not balanced whatsoever

mind you theres no real indicator so you have to guess whether or not the emperor is in reach

having to guess goes back to it also not being balanced

[umbral cave]

The only 'iNdIcAtOr' is if they aren't trying to steal or jump. But this is a terrible 'indicator', a they could just be waiting, like a normal player.

[lavish anchor]

because im not boutta fall into a 50/50 in a basketball game dawg this aint tekken ranked

[umbral cave]

As*

I stopped playing ranked agter pump fake pass I frames got removed.

Just turns it into an up and down mosh pit sprint with quick passing.

Blink made it worse, and I imagine reach makes ot unplayable.

[lavish anchor]

people who propose that as a counter dont realize how ridiculous it sounds

so youre telling me i gotta guess due to the lack of indicator as they completely shut down my ability to pass or shoot for 8 entire seconds just by standing there

thats

totally balanced isnt it

[umbral cave]

Sounds balanced to me. -Patrick Star

[lavish anchor]

its not worth the 8 seconds either just off a hunch

even then its a lose lose

you assume theyre not using reach

boom they auto snatch the ball

you assume they are using reach

boom i get stolen off after my pumpfake iframes wear off

mind you

the emperor main sets up all this

just by standing there

for 8 seconds

[balmy karma]

chuck wishes his v ability had usefulness like this

[lavish anchor]

the gap between reach

and the last best defense move

snatch block

is insanely wide

[radiant karma]

idk what they were thinking making the window 8 seconds

that's enough to get the ball stolen if u wait it out

no counterplay at all

[random axle]

Fr 8 seconds is crazy

[minor bison]

Maybe you all are going to kill me, but the only thing (for me) thats makes him so broken is the emperor reach, if they reduce the time u can steal a shot or pass, I think the rest is fine

[tired plume]

can we js get rid of the stupid falling over

its acc dumb

hes already miles past u, why am i falling over

[radiant karma]

the rest is fine

except force shot and reach

[random axle]

Nah just reach

[radiant karma]

force shot has way too much range and is way too quick

[minor bison]

Like u cannot understand my anger when i use a nutmeg to an emperor and he grab my balll

[random axle]

Just jump

[minor bison]

Or when using push off

[radiant karma]

a good emp user isnt gonna immediately use it u know

[random axle]

ik

[tired plume]

there is no such thing

[random axle]

I mostly catch them with snatch block

[random axle]

But they can’t nerf everything then it wouldn’t be miracle just the reach

[radiant karma]

even if they nerf force shot and reach

it's still the best style

it'll just become more closer to the other style

emperor right now is the best style

and there's a gap between the other ones

[random axle]

Yep